Cowboys Rookie Mini-camp Roundup
by Dave Halprin on May 1, 2010 9:50 AM CDT
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PrintBreathe, breathe in the air. In deference to Pink Floyd, the breathing of Dez Bryant apparently was the story after the first rookie mini-camp for the Dallas Cowboys. Being 'out of breath' was mixed with 'catches that would make you breathless' in almost all the media reports. Only the latter matters.
So take a breath media, and let's get to what really matters.
Wearing his new No. 88 for the morning and afternoon sessions, Bryant used his size, speed and sure hands to snatch several passes in one-on-one drills. It looked like the same Dez Bryant who gave sixth-round cornerback Jamar Wall all he could handle in Big XII games between Oklahoma State and Texas Tech.
"He's a big, physical guy," Wall said. "He's fast, he can use his body well and he's got great hands. He's got great jumping ability. Just going after him in general is a challenge because he's such an athlete."
Nice scouting report from Jamar.
Meanwhile, our second-round pick is the only linebacker at the mini-camp. Sean Lee is receiving private tutoring because of it. He's also gone full Cowboy.
"I couldn't lie. I rooted against them," Lee said of the Cowboys. "I'm from Pittsburgh and there was no option. Now, I'm trying to recruit as many Cowboys fans as I can. As soon as I got the call from Mr. Jones, we went out and bought all the Cowboys gear we could find in Pittsburgh - which wasn't very much."
In the search for a starting free safety, Dallas isn't sure they need any outside help now that the draft is done. Alan Ball is the obvious front-runner.
"I know our staff - Wade in particular - they're pretty pleased with what (Alan) Ball did for us last year. That needs to be a consideration. And we need to see those young guys. In my mind, we don't have to do anything there," [said Jerry Jones].
Michael Hamlin is there, as is new draftee AOA. But he'll be delayed in making his debut for Dallas.
Akwasi Owusu-Ansah. The Cowboys' fourth-round selection (No. 126) won't participate in the rookie mini-camp, the organized team activities (OTAs) or the team mini-camp while he recovers from March surgery to fix his dislocated left shoulder. Circle late July in San Antonio for his full on-field debut.
In Wade's press conference he discussed AOA's ability in their pre-draft meetings to dissect defenses. He was the best of all the safeties they came across in the interviews in that regard.
In non-rookie news, Marion Barber has returned to Dallas for offseason workouts.
Also, the deal on Patrick Crayton's status.
He said Crayton asked to assist in finding himself a new home after he found out the Cowboys were shopping him.
"We found out they were shopping him and then only then did we request permission to assist them in getting a trade," Lyles said. "He is under contact. He plans to fullfull his contract. In no way is he holding out and trying to make a statement."
Lyles acknowledged that Crayton does want to meet with Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to find out what "his role will be next season and get a clear understand what plans they have for him."
I've been a fan of Crayton, love him in the slot as a #3 WR. But he's right to be concerned, not many fourth receivers get a lot of playing time. And that's what he is now with Bryant's arrival. No matter our concerns about Roy Williams, the Cowboys are determined to make that trade work. Crayton is now insurance for injury at WR.
And, just for kicks, here's USA Today's rankings of the current league personnel guys based on their ability to draft players. Candidates had to be in their current position for at least three years (basically 20 GM's). Jerry comes in at #12.
12. Jerry Jones, owner/president/GM, Dallas Cowboys— He had his rough patches after divorcing coach Jimmy Johnson following the 1993 season. Shante Carver was the first first-round pick of the post-Johnson era (though Jones did get Larry Allen in Round 2). But after a series of less-than-lackluster years — aside from the Greg Ellis/Flozell Adams crop in 1998 — Jones starting hitting his stride in 2002 (Roy Williams, Andre Gurode). In 2005, he brought in DeMarcus Ware, Marcus Spears, Marion Barber, Chris Canty and Jay Ratliff. He got five more studs in 2008: Felix Jones, Mike Jenkins, Martellus Bennett, Tashard Choice and Orlando Scandrick. As Jerry would tell you, it's not how you start — it's how you finish.
• Best pick: Jason Witten— This helped erase the memory of taking tight end David LeFleur at No. 22 in 1997. A third-round pick in 2003, Witten was the best tight end in the NFC over the past decade. Of course, signing Tony Romo as an undrafted free agent may ultimately be the move that defines this era of Cowboys football.
• Worst pick: Quincy Carter— A second-round pick in 2001, Carter was just one of Jones' many misguided efforts (Ryan Leaf, Chad Hutchinson, Drew Henson) to replace Troy Aikman. Thank the (blue) stars for Romo.
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Crayton shouldn't be traded until after training camp
because injuries happen. We may need him, or injuries on other teams makes him more valuable.
2009 BTB Fantasy Champ... Deal with it
maybe some well intentioned fan
goes Gilooly on #11.
by I_miss_Switzer on May 1, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
agreed
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 1, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Shouldn't do anything with Crayton period.
He is dependable and durable. Sam Hurd can and has been replaced.
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RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on May 1, 2010 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Crayton is more expendable than Hurd
Hurd is a coverage guy on ST and for a 4th receiver you have to do more than just catch passes and that is all Crayton would do from now on, he can’t cover he won’t be a punt returner, you gotta think about roster spots
by nicholas.rodriguez on May 1, 2010 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
AK-47
I heard that’s what campo is calling AOA. Awesome nickname!!!
especially since he's a great "gunner" on kick returns
although we could call him AK-27 since that’s his number
I don't want to put too much into it
but Dez Bryants day one highlights are impressive. The dude did not forget how too catch a football after all that time off.
and here's timmy mac from live rookie minicamp updates
macmahon: Bad ball drill displays Dez’s sick talent. So smooth adjusting, such strong hands. Made shoestring catch on ball thrown 2 yards behind him.
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4668061/live-rookie-minicamp-updates-day-2
was there video somewhere?
Or are you just really good at taking what you read and visualizing it? Link vids!
Let the chips fall where they may
Did you see his sigh when the guy was asking his 'last' question about the Jeff Ireland controversy?
This kid has to be ready to rip people’s throats out. That last thing he wants to be reminded of his how shitty his childhood was. It should be celebrated that he made it this far with that upbringing, not reminded of how bad it was everyday.
If I were him I'd learn to not hear questions like that at all.
Totally ignore the question and the reporter, not so much as a glance his way.
Let the chips fall where they may
that ranking for Jerry is inconsistent
How much of that was Parcells? Maybe he would be higher? Maybe lower?
by alanTdot. on May 1, 2010 11:05 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Imagine if Roy boy gets his crap together
Miles, Roy, Dez, Ogletree, Jason, MartyB, Phillips. Yikes! Have fun defending that…
Let the chips fall where they may
It should be easy to rush the QB
with the three linemen you have on the field in that lineup.
Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!
by bigbluethruandthru on May 1, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
You'd need ld linemen that are worth a crap to do that first.
Oh yeah you have like twenty mediocre ones. it should be easy to get a pass off with d line men trying to cover our recievers.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
RW is not going to "get his crap together"
The guy is what he is. He had one decent year, the rest is all hype. You have to believe in the toothe fairy to think suddenly he will become something he has never been.
by StillHateTheGiants on May 1, 2010 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Imagine if Roy boy gets his crap together
Miles, Roy, Dez, Ogletree, Jason, MartyB, Phillips. Yikes! Have fun defending that…
Let the chips fall where they may
Haha
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on May 1, 2010 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
most dangerous weapons on the league
Maybe there’s some homerism in this, but I think it’s pretty objectively true that we have the best all-around set of weapons at skill positions in the league.
WR: We could have the best starting WR duo in the league once Dez in the starter, we’ll have 2 legit #1 receivers.
RB: We have the arguably the best trio of RBs in the league. Felix was tied for 1st in ypc last year among RBs with 100+ carries. Barber and Choice aren’t elite RBs individually, but considered together there is hardly a stronger backfield.
TE: Witten arguable the best all-around TE in the league, and top 5 among receiving TEs. Bennett still has huge upside. Phillips looks very solid. Again like RB, an elite starter, and among the best depth in the league.
Any other team even come close to this?
Y through in IF ?s
its May, throw the questions in when something happens, stop waiting for an injury
by nicholas.rodriguez on May 1, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Dallas got lucky last year
They only had a hand full of injuries. If they’re not prepared for injuries in the OL it could be a long season, Dallas OL is old.
We get lucky a lot I guess
Top 5 in league health 3 of the last 4 years I believe. Only one that wasn’t was 2008, and we had league-average health that year.
lol what the hell
I think this site is having issues cuz I know I didn’t double post
Let the chips fall where they may
Ogletree wont be the 5th WR...Crayton is history....Ogletree will be the 4th WR on this roster very soon...
Even if Dez wasnt drafted Crayton wasnt going to hold off Ogletree this camp…Just cut Crayton before traning camp and let one of the PS players or an undrafted WR battle it out in camp as the 5th WR. The sooner the better so the team can move forward.
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Calling it like it is and Ive been on point so far.....
I told you he wouldnt be here and your kidding yourself if you think he is here by training camp. Crayton will only become a distraction and they know it the reason he will be cut. Teams know he will be cut so a trade for him will be almost impossible.
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"on point so far"
Yes please tell me how good of a job that Bobby Carpenter did last year and how much better he was than Burnett despite statistical evidence that he wasn’t, oh great man of football knowledge.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 1, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
um..Carpenter is a better nickel LB than Burnett was...
Carpenter is not injury prone like Burnett was and clearly better in coverage. He is one of the reasons why our coverage on TE’s improved since Burnett left like it or not…
I told you jokers that a WR would be drafted with our 1st round pick, when most bauked at the idea..that a OL or safety wouldn’t be drafed with a high pick. …
Crayton will be not on this team come training camp prior to the draft and most certainly looks like he won’t….
I would say that “on point” so far….
#88 Dez Bryant-Welcome to the Cowboys!!!
Oh and before you go there, I was pushing Tate for awhile as you know...
but the last month of the draft I felt strongly about us drafting Dez and made it known. If not, I really thought we would be trading out of the first round.
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NO he wasn't better in coverage.
He was almost exactly the same!!!
It was described by OOC’s stats, the reason we were better against TE’s was because of Sensabaugh.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 1, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
If he was so fng good in coverage...
why couldn’t dallas trade him for a box of crakerjacks?
He SUCKS, he sucks…he sucks…he sucks…
Patrick Crayton was a better player than him, Terrence Newman was a better player than him, and every other player you bash all the time.. probably better players than him.
I live breathe and die TEXAS LONGHORNS but you don’t see me me saying that Roy Williams was a good widereceiver. Why? Because I’m not a dellusional homer.
You got anything to be on point about that “joker”? Or are you too busy rewatching the Ohio State band dot the I?
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 1, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
He but look at the brightside...
at least one of your boys is getting replaced by a player from Penn State.
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 1, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
The truth is Burnett SUCKED!! the reason he wasn't resigned..
He still sucks in SD..Stats dont mean jack because the pass coverage has improved since Brunett has left and that’s the facts.
And where was it said we were attempting to trade Carpenter? It certainly wasn’t last year and there wasn’t anything to prove that he was this year. Carpenter will be the backup to Brookings again this year hate to tell you because neither Williams or Lee are ready for that role.
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You seriously think that Carpenter is on the roster this season?
“Stats don’t mean jack” Except that it proved that they were improved because of Sensabaugh.
Let’s not let facts get in the way with your obsession with all things Bobby Carpenter.
It was PUBLIC that Carpenter was on the Trade Block. Do you know what that means… probably means tht they were trying to trade him.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 2, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes, Carpenter will be on the roster this season....take it to the bank
#88 Dez Bryant-Welcome to the Cowboys!!!
no one has proven they are a better nickel LB yet..
Williams has never played coverage in college and still needs work. Lee is backing up James, not Brookings…
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You're covered in homerism.
You don’t know what the LB’s will or won’t be capable of.
You blatantly ignore things that say that Carpenter wasn’t that good… your like the safety roy williams of this blog. You completely ignore facts like he competely ignored covering guys.
1) Carpenter was on the trade block.
2) Carpenters metrics showed he wasn’t the contributing factor that the pass coverage was better.
3) How is it, EVERYONE in the entire Dallas Cowboys fanbase can see this guy isn’t any good but you?
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 2, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Obvioulsy the fan base knows more than the coaching staff right?
I mean we know so much…..lol…good thing the fan base isn’t running the team. Carpenter is real good in coverage. I guess your memory is clouded because he had a good year last year. You freaking haters pick out the bad things, but ignore or simply dismiss the good things he did…unbelievable….
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Carpenter isn't real good in coverage dude!
Where are you getting this from, there are like 20 analyzations that say… he isn’t good in coverage.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 2, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
dude what are you talking about....go put some tape on...
He had his best season last year and played very well in coverage. That’s one of his strengths…..oh my…..lol
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I think I have wasted enough time on this subject...
the truth will be told whether or not Carpenter will be on this team by the coaching staff and not the “fan base”…thank God. If Williams can’t beat out Carpenter he will be the nickel LB again this year…if not, that may say something about Williams right?….I guess we can start calling Williams a bust if he can’t correct? just saying…. :)
#88 Dez Bryant-Welcome to the Cowboys!!!
As Tony Washington would say...
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 2, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
dang whole pic didn't show
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d192/freekwonder/motivational%20posters/denial.jpg
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 2, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Like I said thank God you fans aren't making the decisions...
#88 Dez Bryant-Welcome to the Cowboys!!!
sure am, but I wasn't one of them that wanted to mortgage the draft for a lineman or safety like many did..
I know you wanted your lineman Dunkman, but Jerry’s history at drafting OL should’ve been a sign it wasn’t going to happen no matter how much you, or anyone thought it was a priority. Not in the first round anyway…
#88 Dez Bryant-Welcome to the Cowboys!!!
"You fans?"
WTF are you?
I’m sorry that I can see stats and people who analyze every play and say “Bobby Carpenter isn’t very good.”
It’s not called being a fan, it’s called being objective. If this guy had went to Tennesse State you wouldn’t be defending him.
I don’t “hate” Carpenter either, I don’t hope anything bad for him and I don’t care about where he went to school or whatever about him.
It’s called being objective, try taking your sweatervest off once in a while.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 2, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Well obviously your opionon doesn't carry much weight with the coaching staff
because the coaching staff felt very comfortable with Carpenter as the nickel LB and he did a pretty good job despite what you think. It’s not homerism my friend it’s called the facts. If Carpenter wasn’t good enough to play nickel LB than he wouldn’t have. Unless someone comes along and proves he is better than him he will be the nickel LB again….sucks for you haters but that’s the truth. If Williams beats out Carpenter than he deserves the spot. Until then Carpenter is the nickel LB..
#88 Dez Bryant-Welcome to the Cowboys!!!
If the coaching staff was so comfortable with him...
Why are the constantly trying to replace him?
The other Cowboys first round pick in the table above has likely reached the end of his tenure with the franchise. Always a bad fit in the Cowboys’ 3-4 scheme, Bobby Carpenter delivered one of the worst performances by any linebacker in the league last year.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 2, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
well obvoulsy he isn't that bad because he is still here...
Like I said we will see if Williams can beat him out, if not than Williams really sucks or hey, Carpenter isn’t that bad… which will it be?
Im not saying an upgrade is needed because we could always use upgrades just like with Crayton, but unless someone better comes along it really doesn’t matter what we think does it….
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Or, he's so bad
…nobody would trade for him:
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NfL&id=3686
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2010/5/1/1453514/peeking-into-the-dallas-cowboys#storyjump
Rabid and luvin' it
He's still on the roster because...
A) he was a first round pick
B) he was all they had last year while transitioning Williams.
If Jason Williams is at this same point in his career 3 years from now, I’ll be saying the same thing.
I’m sure there are worse options out there as nickel LB, I mean I couldn’t play the position but that doesn’t mean that Carpenter doesn’t suck as a Nickel LB.
Your logic is twisted to back your boy.
Once again if this guy was from San Diego State or anywhere else you would feel the same way.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 2, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Dont give me that garbage about he was a first round pick..
Freaking weak as hell AFB…We couldve cut ties with Carpenter long ago. We weren’t financial strapped to him. He was a late first round pick and his base salary was $885,000 last year. How about this….wow..just maybe he was better than anyone that went against him for the position..nah….that can’t be it right…LMAO!!
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For one year he was.
You “laugh your ass off” all you want.
Jaques Reeves was a nickel CB for Dallas for a couple of years.. doesn’t mean he was good.
It just meant that they unfortunatly hadn’t had anyone to replace him with.
He was even being taken out of some nickel packages and Brooking was playing instead.
You can try and act like I’m a moron here all you want, but I’m not the egotistical…. person, that keeps patting himself on the back and then throwing comments like “joker” and calling comments “weak” when he’s defending someone clearly because of his college association.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 2, 2010 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
No your just blinded by your hatred for the player which is pretty evident..
Like I said the question remains, but you avoid it…If Carpenter is the starting nickel LB come September what will your excuse be then??
Will it be Williams sucks, or there was no alternative? Listen, there is always an alternative. This is the NFL. If the player is not good enough there is always someone waiting.
Still weak as hell, but that’s all you have I guess..
#88 Dez Bryant-Welcome to the Cowboys!!!
Yes because I have a personal vendetta against Bobby Carpenter.
Out of 53 players I said, “You know what… I’m going to just pick this guy out to hate.”
You got me dude, it was super weak. I’m super jealous of his flowing blonde hair and yadda yadda yadda.
When it’s all put out there like that, it makes perfect sense.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 2, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
BTW
I don’t even hate the guy. I just don’t think he’s very good, even if he does start.
There is statistical data to back it up, it’s posted in the article above this one.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 2, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Just waiting for your excuse come september
If Williams beats Carpenter out bravo to him. I want the best guy on the field. If Carpenter is not here, cut traded or demoted I will have no problem with it. But until someone beats him out you have no argument because right now Carpenter is the nickel LB….
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ok I think we highjacked this Dez article with enough Carpenter talk dont ya think...
I’m done with it…lets take a wait and see on it..
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Dude...
you better stop talking to me like that.
You wanna talk offline about this than thats fine, but I’m about tired off the comments towards my intelligence and of that nature my email is posted on my name and if you want to take care of things offline then we can do that.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 2, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Dont go postal on me...I've never insulted your intelligence...relax dude...
We agree to disagree…let’s take a wait and see on what plays out. In the end we both want the best for our team.
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anyone else read this on an iPhone?
by strobman on May 6, 2010 8:36 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
One has to wonder
how much playing time Carpenter would have seen if Hodge hadn’t blown out his knee.
Rabid and luvin' it
Actually,
the only reason Carpenter was on the roster is because Hodge and Williams could not be propery evaluated due to injury. Fifty seven tackles in 4 years and 3.5 sacks says it all. That’s not one tackle a game and that includes special teams. Never mind the aging ILBs we had to sign as FAs because Carpenter couldn’t play three downs. You do not use first round picks to play nickel coverage.
If Carpenter is so good, let’s see if the Cowboys offer him another contract after this year. After all, that is the criteria you put on Burnett.
Williams was not even close to competing at nickel
He never played coverage in college. It had nothing to do with injury.
#88 Dez Bryant-Welcome to the Cowboys!!!
Williams played
strong safety his first year at Western Michigan and linebacker for three years so he did have some secondary coverage responsibilities that Carpenter never had coming out of school.
Carpenter was beat out by a DE (Ellis) because he couldn’t get off blocks and rush the passer. Then it was Anthony Spencer not to mention later, Butler and Brandon Williams. Then it was “let’s try him inside”. Nope, gotta get Thomas, Brooking, Williams, Hodge and now Lee. That’s five inside guys alone the team had to get because of his stellar play not even mentioning his OLB failures. Sorry, number one pick does not equal nickel LB. Your boy sucks.
This is the same Stephen Hodge..
that was a 6th round pick…was a safety in college trying to make the transistion to ILB right? yeah, good luck with that one. He had no chance of knocking Carpenter out last season injury or no injury…
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Boyz, you make some decent points about Carp
… but this isn’t one of them… if anyone is capable of supplanting a weak link in the nickel, it would be a guy like Hodge. He’s got coverage experience as well as the size. If you want to argue that Williams had a tough transition to coverage, then Hodge is the opposite.
Not saying he’s the man, just saying that your point is wrong.
Try not to get into a pissing match with a skunk :)
Im not so sure Hodge will even be on the roster come September...
You pinning you hopes on a 6th round draft pick trying to make the transistion from safety to LB. From what Wade said last year about him he was unsure. He has alot of work to do before he can compete with anyone at LB.
I don’t know about you, but I played LB in college. Just knowing the position I couldn’t see anyone that never has played LB coming in and beating out a incumbent that has been doing it for awhile…not going to happen.
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I'm merely saying you can't rule out a safety / ILB hybrid for the nickel position
… playing the devil’s advocate to your comment … I’m definitely NOT pinning my hopes on Hodge… nor am I ruling him out.
Try not to get into a pissing match with a skunk :)
agreed.. can't discount him, but then your saying we still have a nickel LB
because I don’t see Hodge as anything more than a nickel LB and a ST player. He is def not a 3 down ILB….
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So the argument
for Hodge was he was a “6th round pick??!!” Come on man. Can’t use coverage skills with Hodge huh? Ratliff was a 7th rounder, Romo and Miles were undrafted and all are starters. You think Bobby set the bar really high? Because he is a nickel LB? We are not looking for a nickel LB. We are trying to find a guy who can play three downs and for sure that is not Carpenter.
We will always have a nickel LB....
that’s not going to change. The Ratliff comparison is not a very good one. Moving from DE to NT is very easy infact. Wade just said this the other day when talking about our rookie DT possibly getting reps in at NT.
#88 Dez Bryant-Welcome to the Cowboys!!!
Why is it
that we are always going to have a nickel LB? The reason we have done it since Wade has been here is that he has not found any guys that can play three downs. Donny Edwards played three downs for Wade in San Diego. Ray Lewis stays on the field. There are many linebackers in the 3-4 that play three downs. It’s your boy Carpenter that can’t cut the mustard in that regard.
As for the Ratliff comparison, it was an example of low round picks who can become starters. Not a reference of his move from DE to NT. Carpenter moved from OLB to ILB which is also a change yet he could not start. That was why I made the reference.
Carpenter was a OLB at OSU...
but was projected to play either OLB or ILB at the next level. The learning curve isn’t bad as trying to go from a position someone has never played like safety to LB. I dont recall anyone having sucess making that type of position change. LB to safety yes….but not safety to LB. remember we thought that might happen with RW, but never did.
Your asking alot for a 6th round rookie trying to make the transistion to dispell a starter his rookie year. I never saw Hodge as being a threat to any starter. I think he is a career special teamer or backup player to be honest.
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Hodge is injured alot.
But your wrong on the transition to LB.
In TCU’s scheme, safety was almost like a LB. The 3-3-5, the safeties play up near the line. And they actually were more like LB’s
But it’s not about Jason Williams, Lee, or Hodge. Being a starter doesn’t mean your necessarily good and that’s what your trying to say.
They might all suck or not be ready, but Keith Davis was a starter for a year at safety.. doesn’t mean he was good, he just happened to be better or more prepared than anyone on the roster.
If Carpenter starts and plays well, I will be the first to give it up to him. I will dedicate a fanpost in his honor, and if I don’t you can call me out on it.
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Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 3, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe so, but safety is not a LB...there is a big difference...
Like I said I don’t see Hodge being anything more than a ST player and a backup at the nickel.
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I don't know
who projected Carpenter to play where but I know that he was drafted in the first round to play OLB in 2006 opposite Ware. He was beaten out by Greg Ellis, a DE, for the starting spot.
Maybe Hodge can’t do it. Hell, he had major surgery so he may not play at all. However, Carpenter was a first round pick from a big time program who had every opportunity to win both the OLB and ILB starting positions and has failed miserably. This is a fact you seem to have a hard time coming to grips with.
Carpenter was going to be Ellis replacement
If you recall Ellis was making the transistion from a 4-3 DE to a 3-4 OLB which he never played. He also made it known that he wasnt happy about the switch. Carpenter was insurance in the event Ellis didn’t pan out at OLB. Turns out he did and that threw their plans out of whack. That was the reason Carpenter was moved all around his first few seasons. He never had any stabilty at one position until the last season or so…
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I know that Lee and Williams are the future ILBs of this team....
probably as soon as next season. That’s great, I like them both especially Lee, but the fact is Carpenter was an upgrade over Burnett like it or not. He is not injury prone, is better in coverage and is excellent on special teams. Now that he has had some stability at one position for 2 seasons he has been solid.
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If you know
Williams and Lee are the future ILBs why do you insist on making the argument for Carpenter? You obviously feel that Lee and Williams are better and they were drafted lower. If he is so “solid” why won’t he beat out Lee or Williams? Do you believe Carpenter will get a new contract from the Cowboys?
Lee yes, I'm not so sure about Williams....I go back and forth with him...
Well see how he fairs this training camp. If he doesn’t beat out Carpenter than I guess there will be some serious doubts about his ability or maybe Carpenter isn’t that bad. It has to be one of the two….. That’s the point I was trying to hammer home. I’m always up for upgrades as you know and I really like Williams. Could we use an upgrade over Carpenter…absolutely, just like we can use a upgrade at DE with Spears or ILB with James or Brookings and WR with Crayton and Hurd.
Carpenter has been good, not great at the the nickel LB and STs, but people don’t want to give him credit for it. He is the guy until Williams or someone else knocks him off…
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The issue for
Williams, as I see it, is to beat out Brooking sometime during this season. As far as I’m concerned, Carpenter is irrelevant in that discussion. We already KNOW Carpenter can’t beat out Brooking. Brooking is 34 years old and was a liability in coverage in Atlanta much less Dallas. Williams speed alone will make him better in coverage than Brooking. then maybe we can have a 3 down ILB like other teams.
Brookings is better against the run, but Carpenter is better than him in coverage
the reason why Carpenter is 3rd down ILB. Brookings is liabilty in coverage the reason why he isn’t a 3 down LB. If Williams is to succeed he first needs to beat out Carpenter as the third down LB. Im not so sure he is a 3 down LB. Williams may only be a 2 down LB and we still would need a 3rd down LB. Worst case scenerio Williams wins the starting job over Brookings next year and there is competition for the 3rd down LB spot. I maybe wrong, but I still see Brookings as the starter and Carpenter backing him up this season. Williams will be used as a situational pass rusher.
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Why does he
first need to beat out Carpenter? Are there some unknown rules that say Williams can’t beat out Brookings? Why is it such a must in your mind that “we still need a 3rd down LB?” Williams has more speed than both Brookings and Carpenter. He is a better athlete than both of those guys. What is it that tells you that he can’t play three downs?
Let’s say for argument sake it is time to make cuts and you have to keep 8 linebackers. You have Ware, Spencer, James, Brooking right? Then you have Butler, B. Williams (backing up Ware), Sean Lee, and Jason Williams. Explain why you use another roster spot to keep Carpenter and keep 9.
Carp is likely not going to be here
The same arguments you made about Crayton being replaced with potential draft picks also applies to Carp.
If Lee doesn’t win the nickel LB position, then J Williams will. The team was dangling Carp as trade bait during the draft but no one made an offer.
Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Felix Jones = defensive coordinator's Kobayashi Maru scenario
No no no...
Don’t… don’t try logic.
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Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 3, 2010 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I totally agree.
There is also the possiblity that Lee AND Williams win nickel spots. It’s not like Bradie James is a superstar in coverage. We’ll just have to wait and see.
blah OCC
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 1, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I love Ogletree...
but that’s merely speculation.
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 1, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess we will never know, but Ogletree was clearly getting better and stealing some of Craytons reps the end of last season
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Stealing Crayton's reps?
I didn’t see that happening.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on May 1, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah he was getting more playing time I should have said if you noticed..
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I know he had more snaps
But I agree with AFB (below). He wasn’t really taking over Crayton’s role.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on May 1, 2010 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
It wasn't.
He was being brought in for specialty packages, mainly on bubble screens. If anything Crayton was taking some of Roy’s reps and there were times Roy wasn’t even on the field.
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 1, 2010 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
More of that "on point" analysis from Boyz, LOL
Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Felix Jones = defensive coordinator's Kobayashi Maru scenario
Sucks to admitt that I was right to all you Crayton lovers....
You guys shouldve seen this was coming. There were so many question marks surrouding these WRs it was a given we were in the market for one. Crayton is average, brings very little to the return game the reason Jerry was looking for an upgrade.
Enough of wasting my time on this big mouth. Soon he will be gone and we will be better for it…..
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You were right on something!
Wooooo Hooooo.
If Dez Bryant had went 12th and Iupati had fallen, Jerry would’ve taken him because the top three players he had was Iupati, Thomas, and Dez.
It isn’t exactly like you just predicted the weather.
You and Terry should get a room together, when you are right you will tell EVERYBODY, but wrong you disappear.
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Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 2, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I already said if Dez wasn't drafted we would be trading out of the first round...
Jerry was never going to move in the top 20 for a safety or a OL….he admitted that after the draft. He said the cost was too much and I agree.
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He didn't move in to the top 20 for Dez either.
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Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 2, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Honestly, I didn't think Dez would be there...probably Jerry also...
The cost to move up for anyone in the top 20 was too much, but I bet you if he was it was for Dez not a lineman or safety.
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Just the thought of us moving in the top 15 for Earl Thomas was a pipe dream...
I love Thomas, but that’s not Jerrys style. If he moved up it was going to be for a impact player on offense that would contribute right away and he did.
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wrong, Cowboys had Thomas rakned higher than Dez
If he would have dropped like Dez, we were trading up for him.
In Romo we Trust
I agree...
Or Iupati.
Although I’m happy with Dez.
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Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 2, 2010 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
CJ Spiller was
rated higher than both Thomas and Dez on the Cowboys’ board. Does that mean we would have drafted Spiller if he had fallen? I seriously doubt it.
What does that have to do with anything? He might have but there was ZERO chance like I told you Thomas would make it past 16...
and he wasn’t…..right?….
Dez was clearly one of the most talented players in the draft. Your boy Mayock had him as the 5th best in the entire draft ahead of your boy Thomas. Jerry was on record as saying he wasn’t going to trade up that high for either Thomas or Iupati…Thank God he didn’t for Iupati because he is overrated. The guy has a holding problem and that’s not going to go away overnight.
#88 Dez Bryant-Welcome to the Cowboys!!!
it wasn't a zero chance
the odds weren’t good, but it wasn’t guaranteed, nothing ever is in the draft.
In Romo we Trust
You should know Jerry's MO that he doesn't do that....
especially after RW (1)…..I think everyone knew he wasn’t going to blow his wad on a safety. I will give you this….If he was going to blow the draft for either a safety or OL I would take the safety…I really did like Thomas, but the price tag was just too high.
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Crayton is only leaving because he wants out
He would easily make the team as the 4th WR and backup PR.
You got lucky on that prediction. But there have been a million others you missed on, so I sure wouldn’t brag about being"on point". Even a blind pig finds an acorn in the mud sometimes.
Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Felix Jones = defensive coordinator's Kobayashi Maru scenario
Why do they consider shopping Crayton but not Roy.
Nobody would want his contract? Maybe good ol Al Davis would like a WR like Roy? Give Jason Cambell a dink and dunk receiver.
"On a journey to anywhere you can draw your own map."
Al Davis definitly not, because Roy is not the fastest player of his WR draft class :D
before there was law, there were the Cowboys!!!
Not even Al Davis is stupid enough to pay the 97th best reciever in the league by yards gained last season $10 million dollars.
All of that money is guaranteed and no one on earth is stupid ebough to take it — we’re stuck with Roy.
by Blue Eyed Devil on May 1, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
That isn't the worst thing out there
well…..its not as bad as DHB, but its pretty bad
by nicholas.rodriguez on May 1, 2010 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Jerry Jones was stupid enough to sign him to that!
Does he have an evil twin NFL GM?
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by Realist Larry on May 2, 2010 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions
I bet if Jerry could take it back , he would
Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Felix Jones = defensive coordinator's Kobayashi Maru scenario
Nickname for Dez?
Does Dez have an “official” nickname yet? As a play on all of the pre/post draft controversy, I’m suggesting “The Problem Child”.
But I mean this as a huge compliment- he’s going to be a problem on the field(for opposing teams)!!
I've already registered and trademarked...
him being a “Dez Dispesner” of TD’s.
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 1, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I've already registered and trademarked...
him being a “Dez Dispesner” of TD’s.
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 1, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
How about
And I know this is pretty far out there, but how about we call him “Dez”. Did I blow your mind?
Let the chips fall where they may
this is the slowest time of the off season
have a little fun. what else is there to debate?
It's Dez
Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Felix Jones = defensive coordinator's Kobayashi Maru scenario
What is with the ATT patches?
I think if JJ had his way the Cowboys Uniforms would be filled with sponsors like a Nascar, or at the very least a European Football (soccer) jersey .
Sweet
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 1, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Sweet
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 1, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
It's extremely rare to have someone that can "do" and "teach"
There have been some great ones in this league, but they are very very rare.
by Blue Eyed Devil on May 1, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Bad hours
he would rather do “consulting” and be there just to help out a few times a year rather than be scheduled in every day, and we already have a full Offensive staff
by nicholas.rodriguez on May 1, 2010 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Or perhaps...
he isn’t a football coach.
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 1, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
He could talk guys into running through a brick wall
no way to know if he can coach or not since he hasn’t tried it.
He might be one...
but there is a difference between making some speeches and being a coach.
Know what I mean?
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 1, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
He has the inspirational part of it down.
He willed an entire team to be their best for a whole decade. When he was gone they never recovered. Of course he was also an unfair advantage on the field, but no one can deny that he was the catalyst of that team.
When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.
mini-camp roster, player numbers
fyi, from timmy mac
here is the roster for the rookie minicamp
4 Delbert Alvarado, P/K, South Florida
5 Connor Hughes, K, Virginia
10 Matt Nichols, QB, Eastern Washington
13 Verran Tucker, WR, Cal
14 Terrell Hudgins, WR, Elon
15 Manny Johnson, WR, Oklahoma
16 Jesse Holley, WR, North Carolina
27 Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, FS, Indiana (Pa.)
29 Marquis Floyd, CB, West Georgia
30 Jamar Wall, CB, Texas Tech
31 Herb Donaldson, RB, Western Illinois
35 Lonyae Miller, RB, Fresno State
37 Bryan McCann, CB, SMU
40 Danny McCray, S, LSU
42 Barry Church, S, Toledo
44 Chris Gronkowski, FB, Arizona
45 Sean Lee, LB, Penn State
60 Travis Bright, OG, BYU
61 Chet Teofilo, G/C, Cal
62 Mike Tepper, OT, Cal
66 Junior Aumavae, NT, Minnesota State
67 Phil Costa, G/C, Maryland
73 Will Barker, OT, Virginia
74 Lorenzo Washington, DE, Alabama
76 Sam Young, OT, Notre Dame
78 Sean Lissemore, DL, William & Mary
81 Rashaun Greer, WR, Colorado State
83 Titus Ryan, WR, Concordia
86 Scott Sicko, TE, New Hampshire
87 Nick Tow-Arnett, TE, Minnesota
88 Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
92 Marcus Dixon, DE, Hampton
Tryout players
6 Pat Grace, QB, Northern Iowa
48 Daniel DeVega, LS, Texas A&M-Commerce
49 Simon Harris, TE, North Carolina State (basketball player)
by scottmaui on May 1, 2010 2:07 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Dez "Irwin Jr" Bryant or Dez "records gonna fall" Bryant? RGF=Records Gonna Fall!
I'm a Eagles fan cause my daddy said so,and he likes losers!!
Just a thought on AOA ...
The Cowboys ranked him the #1 safety in terms of understanding/ dissecting defenses …
And now he will get almost three months to work on film and run through non-contact drills. Most people think about this as a hindrance to his development, and it very well could be. But there is another side to that concern.
While you’d like to see him on the field from day one, there is a tremendous value in simply “thinking through” the various scenarios of your position. Especially for a rookie safety, who will be expected to help “captain” the defense.
Knowing in your head and executing on the field are obviously different things. But I for one am not so sure this is such a bad thing. AOA won’t be chasing girls in Thailand, he’ll be studying offensive schemes and learning the nuances of the Dallas D. Don’t be surprised if that proves to work in his favor come training camp.
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+1
This might be the best thing that could have happened to Akwasi, it might help his development even more to learn the defense a lot better before hitting the field.
BTW, I played at Indiana Country Club Friday which is next to the IUP campus, and Akwasi is the talk of the town there as well he should be.
In Romo we Trust
The only reason I disagree
is that he will miss out on full squad mini camps and going up against the veterans. TC is there to organize everything and get roster spots down as well as depth charts down, I think this mini camp is fine to miss but the OTAs are another story, In a perfect world he would heal quicker than expected and at least get a taste of going up against the veterans and practicing some coverages before TC
by nicholas.rodriguez on May 1, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
they say he will participate in non-contact drills, right?
I am hoping that includes some of the individual coverage stuff. The most important part of on-the-field work for AOA will be getting acclimated to the speed at this level. It’s a jump for players out of the SEC … smaller school guys have an even bigger step up. One-on-one coverage practice doesn’t seem too threatening for his recovery. Of course, that is only a part of his responsibility as a safety.
Try not to get into a pissing match with a skunk :)
If he gets to go out there some
I say it would be a major boost in getting him ready for the pro game, I thought he wouldn’t get to be out there and only would be able to do classroom work
by nicholas.rodriguez on May 1, 2010 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
It'll be interesting to see what he is able to do
no-contact isn’t comletely no-contact, so the docs will have to clear him to practice.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
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by Realist Larry on May 2, 2010 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions
There’s a parallel with Sean Lee here. He was out with ACL in the 2008 season, but the coaches gave him a headset and he basically became part of the defensive coaching staff, calling in plays, and in some ways this may have served him quite well because he became familiar with the whole defense. He could end up being a better field general and leader because he was forced into this role. Not sure if the same really applies for Kwasi taking only mental reps during OTAs, but it might.
And… chasing girls in Thailand lol? speaking from experience?
It Could Help
Different people learn different ways, and AOA might well be the type that learns by thinking about what to do ahead of time, rather than having to actually perform the task. He struck me as a very sharp, articulate person in the post-draft phone conference, so he could the learning by studying type. Either way, I’m pumped we got the guy.
I Wouldn't Say it's a help but...
he’s at a good position for it to happen to. If they expect the free safety to see lots of thigns then he can devote 100% of his time to learning that. Probobly only quarterback and maybe inside linebacker have as much or more mental preperation to go through as safety in our systems.
Definately better to be a free safety sitting out and learning plays than an offensive guard.
by Blue Eyed Devil on May 1, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I like this...
From DC.com, 88 meets 88 …
However, Irvin said he stressed that Bryant really isn’t wearing Irvin’s old number.
“It’s my number, it’s really Drew’s number,” Irvin said. “He passed it on to me and for me, I took it as a place of honor. Hopefully, he understands that. It’s Drew Pearson’s number. Drew gave it to me and said, ‘Michael go do better things with it.’ And I tell (Dez), ‘Go do better things with it.’”
And after just one day of evaluation, Irvin obviously thinks Bryant has the ability to do better things. He called the rookie a “natural,” just as Jerry Jones did on Friday.
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Once Dez gets in the game and starts catching passes
RW isn’t going to sniff the field. I still think they haven’t fully decided on what to do with Roy, but if the kid keeps snatching them out of the air like he has, we know what their plan is for him.
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Not anymore
When Walter retired so did his only competition.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on May 1, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Dez already signed autographs with Pearson earlier this week
so he got things in the right order in terms of recognizing his 88 predecessors.
btw, Drew Pearson for Ring of Honor!
Yeah I heard Pearson talking about him.
Said that he was very respectful and pretty much all the right things. It’s a really good interview, you can hear it on espndallas.
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 1, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I loved that interview
how Pearson raved on how Dez said “yes sir” and “Mr. Pearson” not things like 88 and Drew. It seems Pearson likes the kid and how he told Dez that all is good now in ppl wanting autographs but you should do what you need to do so that 27 years after your retire they still want your autograph
by nicholas.rodriguez on May 1, 2010 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Deztroyer
I hope he becomes just that……………….
me too
I hope it is used many times here on this blog.
Like DEZtroyer the Eagles secondary for 10 catches 172 yards and 2 touchdowns
since it's only May, and this is a Cowboys fan comment thread ...
To me that looks like just another day at the office for the Dez… as in he’ll be averaging numbers like that against the Iggs :)
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Luuuuuuuucyyyy, I hoooooommme
When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.
Killer
When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.
Lets hope for many Deztroyed Foes
Hope we hear Brad Shams wrap up include:
Eagles Deztroyed by Bryant or his alter ego the “Osassin”
Name your team………………….
Don't know about a nick name, but...........
I can imagine a video of defencive backs get burned, and all set to theold Tommy Roe hit “Dizzy”.
Dez, My head is spinning
Like a whirlpool it’s never ending
and it’s you boy making it spin
Your making me Dezzy
I know big reach and way to old for most of you to relate.
you my friend may have to upgrade to Dizzy V 2.0
courtesy of Vic Reeves and the Wonderstuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQgeMe3HaSI&feature=related
by One.Cool.Customer on May 1, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
... and we'll have FUN, FUN, FUN now that Dezzy's wearin' the Star Today :)
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yea, I liked that line ... and I like how quickly he's embraced the Star :)
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Sounds like Wall had a couple of rought days
“The cornerback was slipping and sliding on the grass fields here at Valley Ranch on Friday. He wore the football shoes he had at Texas Tech. So, he changed them to a pair the Cowboys gave him. "
Wall said he had better footing on Saturday, yet receivers such as Dez Bryant, Manuel Johnson and Jesse Holley still beat him for long and short receptions.
“I’m improving, but it’s been good work,” Wall said. "It’s nothing new, but all this work is going to help me get better. These receivers are at a different level.
Wait till he see’s real NFL talent
Yeah...
Even the best college cornerbacks struggle mightly when thrust in the NFL their first season. Think of where Mike Jenkens’ stock was after his first season. There’s so much to learn and get used to facing the best NFL recievers. The cat-and-mouse game between recievers and CBs is probobly the biggest skill difference between the pros and college.
We’ll see if he can make the jump, most fall…
by Blue Eyed Devil on May 1, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
These are non contact drills
and for a guy that does best w/ contact of course he will struggle, and he is facing real NFL Talent when he faces Dez…dunno bout anyone else
by nicholas.rodriguez on May 1, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Gotta like this day 2 update from DMN
The conditioning questions that were evident in Day 1 did not appear to be an issue for Dez Bryant in his second day of practice with the Cowboys.
His ability to catch the ball? Well, that was never in question.
Bryant caught almost everything thrown his way in both sessions. Each session included one spectacular moment.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Eh... throw him away.
He was late for a practice his freshman year.. clearly a huge character issue.
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 1, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
In 2 years from now
Turn on sports talk radio in a dozen different cities and the topic is going to be if their team’s GM should be fired for passing on Dez Bryant.
by Blue Eyed Devil on May 1, 2010 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
But echoing Fist ... he clearly had a HUGE character issue!
Sam Bowie
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Huge.
It’s a demonstrable fact that things you do as a freshman, you repeat the rest of your life. And you’re responsible for your parents when you’re five years old.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
wow, that's amazing ... yer like strummin' my fate with yer fingers there
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Addrenaline
You have to wonder how much of the day 1 stuff was from the massive addrenaline dump he got. Can you imagine? Your first day in the cowboys locker room running drills with guys who are dressed out in silver and blue? That must be a huge addrenaline dump and when the addrenaline wears off you’re going to be completely gassed.
by Blue Eyed Devil on May 1, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure he was somewhat
out of football shape. I mean he hadn’t played in a football game since early of last college football season.
I think that’s a small concern though. He was still giving 100% and making sick catch’s. It was also reported that he looked in better shape today than yesterday.
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 1, 2010 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Yea Since last September
I don’t even think he could practice or be at their facilities and its not like he could just hire any personal trainer yet so yea, he was a little out of shape, maybe the bigger thing is how in the 2nd day he wasn’t as fatigued, that is quite a jump if you ask me
by nicholas.rodriguez on May 1, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah even Irvin thought all of that was funny.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 1, 2010 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah that have that up on DC.com too.
I thought the first catch was pretty funny because you actually hear the cameraman or someone go “Oh sweet”
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 2, 2010 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions
amazingly sad that no NFL team is willing to take a flier there
Try not to get into a pissing match with a skunk :)
Lo Washington
Signed by Dallas as an UDFA, big ole DL prospect from Alabama
Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Felix Jones = defensive coordinator's Kobayashi Maru scenario
Probably a good thing for him
to go somewhere with so little media attention
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on May 4, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
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