Cowboys Draft 2010: What They're Saying About Jamar Wall
For the second consecutive year, the Cowboys have drafted a Texas Tech defender. Last year, it was DE/OLB Brandon Williams. This year, it's defensive back Jamar Wall.
Playing for Texas Tech, Jamar Wall has seen his fair share of Big-12 wideouts and has gone head-to-head against Dallas' first-rounder, Dez Bryant, in college. He practiced daily against TT's Michael Crabtree. Wall knows that he must draw upon what he learned from these experiences to grow professionally as an NFL cornerback.
"He's out there to prove something, too," Wall told The Daily Toreador regarding Bryant. "So therefore I'm going to get my work in against him and all those others guys, Miles Austin, and everyone out there to help me improve my game so we can be a successful team."
Evidently, Wall had some difficulties keeping up with Bryant, Manny Johnson, and Jesse Holley during this past week's rookie mini-camp. But he was the team's second 6th-round pick, 196th overall. And from the little I've seen and read of Wall, he sounds to be a tough, physical defensive back--not so much the "cover corner" type of player. We may get a better read on him with shoulder pads on.
Many folks expected the Cowboys to nab a CB at some point in this year's draft. And if a late pick, as Wall was, then the player must play special teams. Showing off to coach Joe DeCamillis looks to be Wall's best shot for a ticket on the team.
Whether it's Wall or somebody else, the Cowboys do have a depth need at cornerback.
Aside from Terence Newman, the cornerback position is a young one for the Cowboys. Mike Jenkins and Orlando Scandrick just completed their sophomore seasons. Alan Ball was drafted just the year before those two, but he will be pushing for the starting job at free safety. Cletis Gordon started one game during his three year career with the Chargers. With Ball playing FS, then that could conceivably make Gordon the #4 CB on this defense.
Now, Gordon will be active in the return game, so he does offer some special teams abilities as any other fourth CB should. Surely, the team would appreciate it if such young upstarts as Wall and UDFA Bryann McCann were to push Gordon.
Just a few years ago, the Cowboys waived Alan Ball his rookie season and popped him on the practice squad for 14 games. After some seasoning and by showing his versatility, Ball is in position to be the starting free safety for the Dallas Cowboys. I am not saying that we can expect anything like this from Wall, but look how far Ball has come. He was a 7th rounder.
Coach Phillips and Dave Campo brought Ball along slowly and it worked. Maybe they will have some of that magic left for Wall. Let's see what they say about their new player.
Coach Campo:
"Wall is a competitor and that's what I like about him," Cowboys secondary coach Dave Campo said after the first day of rookie minicamp last week.
"He's tough and he competes. But he's got a long way to go, just like all of these [rookies], because they don't know what we do."
"Getting depth is real important because we have one position where we don't have a legitimate starter from last year," Campo said. "We need to find some guys, and there are always battles for the backup spots because a lot of it is involved in special teams. These young guys really have a chance to make the team."
Coach Phillips:
Jamar Wall is a tough, athletic guy that fits our mold as far as defensive backs.
Jerry Jones, after the draft:
Texas Tech’s Jamar Wall (sixth round, 196th overall selection) certainly has great experience. We know one thing, he did practice a lot against the pass out there at Texas Tech so he’s had a lot of reps in practice.
Wall's response to Jerry Jones' draft day question about playing safety:
"I told him I played a little in high school and had to learn it last year because of some injuries to guys," Wall said.
"I might have to step in and play some safety, you never know. As many positions as they want me to play, I’ll play.
DC.com's conference call with Wall.
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Wall was highly recruited out of high school as a running back. Check out his athleticism here during his days at Plainview.
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Hailing from Plainview, TX, Wall is excited to be a Dallas Cowboy.
"It's a great feeling,'' said Wall.
"Going anywhere would have been a great feeling. But staying in Dallas, it's even better. It's still close to home. My family can come to every home game, and playing with (Cowboys linebacker) Brandon Williams again, who's a great friend, I'm looking forward to that also.''
Wall discussed his disappointment on not being able to participate in the combine because of a pulled hamstring, which he then reinjured at Texas Tech's pro day.
"You can't even explain it in words," said Wall, who added that he has fully recovered and will be ready for next weekend's rookie minicamp.
"I know I could have proven myself to teams."
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The Star-T's skinny on Wall, pre-draft.
Jamar Wall, Texas Tech, 5-10, 204, 4.52. One of the school's all-time best cornerbacks, Wall could be drafted late.
Judging by NFL.com's analysis of Wall as a pro prospect, he sounds to be a 'tweener type of player who could, like Ball, offer the Cowboys something at both CB and FS.
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For much more on Wall, Dave's Scouting report from Double T Nation offers the SBN insider's perspective. The article also shows Wall's devastating hit on Kansas' Jake Sharp. Wall's other big hit on YouTube is when he greeted Oklahoma State QB Zac Robinson at the 4-yard line.
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In last Sunday's poll, "Your Favorite Cowboys Late-Round Selection", Wall received the least amount of votes from BTBers.
21% Sam Young (358 votes)
13% Jamar Wall (228 votes)
65% Sean Lissemore (1098 votes)
In the final installment of this series, we look into what they're saying about the player the majority of you voted for: Sean Lissemore.
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first - I like Wall
I hope he sticks, he’s in a good position to fall in as our 4th CB, so he may already have his nitche on the roster set aside for him.
by AustonianAggie on May 10, 2010 11:16 AM CDT reply actions
At this point I'm not sure this guy makes the team
I have a feeling McCann is gonna beat him out. Also ^ lame ^
I'm thinkin' the same thing
Getting burned by Dez is one thing, but getting burned by practice squad receivers does not bode well. Best hope is for a special teams demon who develops into a back up. But then again, your not going to hit on most of your sixth round picks, that’s why he was a sixth round pick.
his read out says he’s a gifted zone player; and one on one match ups are clearly favoring guys who play man to man stronger. I would not be surprised at all to see him have success, or at least be an adequate CB in the NFL
by AustonianAggie on May 10, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Any Tech students/fans out there?
Intrigued if he can be a CB/FS type of guy. Highlights I have found are minimal. Experienced on special teams units?
Trust them...they know what they're doing.
by Aaron Novinger on May 10, 2010 11:21 AM CDT reply actions
Just Ramblin
Personally I have not kept up with Tech in several years. I do remember when I did, listening to the radio Saturdays on that green tractor, hearing Wes Welker big game changing plays it seemed 4-5 times a game. Same was true for Zach Thomas. I always wondered why and was disappointed on draft day, the attention they got from our team. Is it just me or does it seem like Tech players were overlooked on draft day until the success of Welker and high profile Crabtree?
I am a Tech fan
And have always been extremely impressed with Jamar Wall. He makes big plays, and seems to always be around the ball. He’s the kind of guy that when you need something big to happen, he will usually be the one that does it. Just look at that video with Zack Robinson. They are down a TD, 1:30 left in the 4th quarter, and who comes up with the turnover to give Tech a chance. I guess their vanilla zone scheme has hurt him in this draft, but I have no doubts he will be a contributor for us down the line.
by WhiteMenCanDance on May 10, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but can he DANCE?
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Cool...thanks for the insight!
He seems to be a real competitor.
Trust them...they know what they're doing.
by Aaron Novinger on May 10, 2010 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Unfortunately, I'm from lbk
This guy Is definetly a fan favorite up there, hopefully his game really shows through when he gets pads on, we could use another cb
Btw, Micheal crabtree stole my friends weed
by Cknbonenowison on May 10, 2010 11:51 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Crabtree has always come off as an entitled diva.
But stealin’ a man’s weed . . .
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
by Uncle Angus on May 10, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh ya, I got tons of dirt on that guy
Doin lines of coke At Greek circle after he killed the horns in lbk that year. Imagine a hundred drunk minors in joker face paint running around like they won the bcs…. Hehe amusing….
by Cknbonenowison on May 10, 2010 12:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
No biggie.
It works for me, but it’s just a 29 sec clip of him taking some option pitches in high school.
Trust them...they know what they're doing.
by Aaron Novinger on May 10, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I meant the big hit on Robinson.
But it loaded just fine this afternoon. Dayum. He did blow that guy up. Only trouble was he was turned a little sideways, so he absorbed some of it back in the temple. Bout knocked himself out to. He’ll learn.
Big hit, though.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
And thanks for the good work keeping us up to speed on this stuff, man.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
No prob. If work is fun, then this is it!
Glad you were able to see the hit on Robinson. That’s a can’t miss play there. It’s kind of what Scandrick did in that preseason game his rookie year. Rung his own bell trying to destroy a QB.
Trust them...they know what they're doing.
by Aaron Novinger on May 10, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's just hope
…he doesn’t hurt himself or one of our better WR’s once the pads go on in camp. You know he’s going to go all out to make the roster. He blows up Austin or Ogletree like that trying to prove something and it could have serious repercussions on our season.
Rabid and luvin' it
Sam Young
A Blue Chip recruit coming out of high school. But he was a bit of an under achiever, if you can say that starting all 4 years at Notre Dame, against top competition, is under achieving. Durable and large. Maybe not athletic enough to play left tackle, but we need back up right tackle depth, and starting potential too. A good late round pick.
For another team I guess
Because he won’t make the 53 on our roster.
Only 2 backup spots for tackles and it looks like Alex Barron and Robert Brewster have quite the leg up on him there.
I guess Sam can always hope for injuries.
by Blue Eyed Devil on May 10, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
didn't henry get burned all the time without pads in practice?
but he was a pretty decent physical-type corner for a few years.
we only need him as #4 CB, or even #5 if Ball moves back to corner (assuming AOA/Hamlin/Sensabaugh can hold down the fort as S’s). no team has worldbeaters at 1-4. if scandrick gets back to his 08 form, that’s all we really need.
Yes, but he got burned in games too...
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
I think he was able to play with the ball in front of him because he was a decent tackler
Not sure he ever had the hips to turn and run with quick-twitch athletes.
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Not when he was healthy.
Unfortunately he was rarely healthy, but when he was, i liked his game as well as any corner in the league.
Aaron, what did you think of the Wall pick?
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
I kind of like it. I don't remember who was on the board at the time, but I think Wade...
…does a good job with developing these ’tweener type of players on defense. He seems to covet guys who are versatile. I referenced Ball up there, but even if you look at M. Hamlin and Sensabaugh, they are guys who could probably play either safety spot.
With the pressure-packed defense that he has put together, he needs FSs who can cover; therefore, he seems to like the CB/FS tweeners there. Also at SS, he seems to like FS/SS hybrids. No RW1 or Taylor Mays types for him. He needs guys who can cover.
And if you think about ST, Coach Joe D probably wants to get his own crew going too. How much longer are they going to pay Watkins, Hurd, Gordon, etc. veteran $$$ when they can get younger players in there? Guys like Hamlin, Wall, and Church can develop their positional skills while fighting for roster spots via ST.
Re: Wall, the player…I don’t know much about him other than that he is a physical football player. Obviously, they need to create more turnovers, so any smashmouth, hard-nosed defender is always intriguing to have.
And if he is better suited as a Cover-2 corner, then he sounds like a great fit learning the FS position on this team.
What do you think of him/the pick?
Trust them...they know what they're doing.
by Aaron Novinger on May 10, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
As you aptly pointed out, he seems like a cover 2 guy to me
Given his skill set and the schemes he played in.
If he’s a future FS, where does that leave AOA?
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
I believe AOA is our future.
Teach him well and let him lead the way.
Trust them...they know what they're doing.
by Aaron Novinger on May 10, 2010 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions
If Wade truly sees the SS/FS as interchangeable through using hybrids
…then he could potentially be in line to take Pat Watkins’ place in the secondary and on special teams.
Rabid and luvin' it
by lonewolfz28 on May 11, 2010 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I have to think depth at CB
is one of the weakest points on our team at this point. With all the passing these days your top three corners are all pretty much starters, which leaves us with a bunch of unproven players and Alan Ball as back ups and Ball is playing safety.
It's nitpicking I know
but we’ve got a solid team all around. Just saying I’d be somewhat worried if one of our guys went down.
You will be the upgrade
So hurry up and start getting prepared ;)
Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Felix Jones = defensive coordinator's Kobayashi Maru scenario
by APerfectStar on May 11, 2010 3:12 AM CDT up reply actions
But what are the chances that the Cowboys go after him?
JJ has been pretty stingy with the purse strings this off season.
Off topic, ... trade question
I have heard/read numerous things about Alex Barron and conditioning. I have heard that he is in the best shape of his career and other accounts that have him way over weight and that is why the trade has been delayed. Any thoughts on which is true?
From Nick Eatman's Blog:
Barron has taken and passed his physical and even signed his necessary papers. The Cowboys were just waiting on the Rams to finalize their end of the deal that includes the arrival of Bobby Carpenter.
It’s expected the contract will be completed before 3 p.m. (CDT), the end of the NFL business day.
Try not to get into a pissing match with a skunk :)
Turn your head to the right and cough...
(cough)
Now, to the left and cough…
(cough)
Okay, you’re good to go. Welcome to the Cowboys.
Trust them...they know what they're doing.
by Aaron Novinger on May 10, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
goofy
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 10, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Phew!
Now where’s that Dale Hellastrae jersey?
Trust them...they know what they're doing.
by Aaron Novinger on May 10, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Nate Jones
He was absolutely useless as a CB. But Wade found a way to use him effectively. Maybe he can do the same with this kid.
good point
Reeves even got a good chunk of change after a year with Wade.
Trust them...they know what they're doing.
by Aaron Novinger on May 10, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's not give up on Wall
after his first rookie camp. He’s a 6th round pick that needs time and coaching. He’s a competitor and a hitter, he might stick if he can play ST.
no Safety help in mini-camp
plus we have to keep in mind that these are one-on-one drills, with CBs trying to cover WRs with no safety/zone help, so it’s set up to strongly favor the receivers and we can’t read too much into the CBs performance under the circumstances.
Plus, they are playing in shorts where WRs speed is emphasized.
And Manny and Holley, even though they were practice squaders, have a good deal more experience than the green Wall.
Trust them...they know what they're doing.
by Aaron Novinger on May 10, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I like the thought of Wall playing a hybrid CB / S role like Ball has been doing
For now, trying to judge how Wall will turn out is a crap-shoot. If NFL GMs were so skilled at projecting talent, why are there so many late round / UDFA Pro Bowlers? Don’t be so certain to write him off based on a no-pads mini-camp.
Try not to get into a pissing match with a skunk :)
How many pro bowlers are UDFA's?
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
4 recent Cowboys players
Romo
Austin
And if you count Nate Newton twice.
Trust them...they know what they're doing.
by Aaron Novinger on May 10, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
He may have been drafted by the Aussie league, though...lol
Trust them...they know what they're doing.
by Aaron Novinger on May 10, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
ha ha our friends down under will set us straight by tomorrow morning:
aussie_cowboy, BoyfromOz, Luke. and Katana to the rescue!
by One.Cool.Customer on May 10, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
McBriar was never drafted
His goal was always to play in the NFL.
Out of high-school he persuaded his folks to fund one year at the University of Hawaii. He made the team as a walk-on and got a football scholarship for the remaining years. Picked up by Denver as an UDFA but didn’t make the team. Tried again with us the following year and the rest is history….
The other Aussie punters, Darren Bennett (SD pro bowler), Sav Rocca (Eagles) and Ben Graham (Cards) were all out of our professional Aussie Rules league (AFL).
"Where's Woody? - We need another Darren Woodson
So did he play for June Jones there in Hawaii?
Jones has been here at SMU for two years, I think.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
I meant you could count him as two players.
Trust them...they know what they're doing.
by Aaron Novinger on May 11, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I can tell you exactly how many Cowboy Pro Bowlers were UDFA's
Did the analysis for a pre-Draft fanpost a while back – The “Cowboys All-Undrafted Team”:
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2010/4/12/1416719/the-dallas-cowboys-all-undrafted
"Where's Woody? - We need another Darren Woodson
What about across the NFC and AFC Pro Bowl rosters?
Is the UDFA # growing or is it static?
Kurt Warner comes to mind.
Who else? James Harrison?
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Here you go...
This article is from fall ‘09, so it’s pretty recent.
http://national-football-league-nfl.suite101.com/article.cfm/undrafted_nfl_all_star_team
Some of the notables are Wes Welker, Antonio Gates, James Harrison, Jeff Saturday, Adam Vinatieri, London Fletcher, Ryan Grant.
Trust them...they know what they're doing.
by Aaron Novinger on May 10, 2010 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions
so, in other words ... careful to judge a book by it's cover :)
Try not to get into a pissing match with a skunk :)
As you look at the best of the bunch...
it seems the quality of the LB’s stands out.
The other groups, not so much.
I wonder if there is some sort of indictment embedded in that information against spending high picks on LB’s?
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Hey BTW, yall have two stories linked on Facebook that aren't here on the main site. Just a heads up.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
or one at least. the other is a link to Moseley
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
Yeah, news and articles are coming in so fast that we are in fast forward.
Thanks for the heads-up.
Lotsa reading material on Monday!
Trust them...they know what they're doing.
by Aaron Novinger on May 10, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
"not so much the 'cover corner' type of player"
um… is there use for any other kind of corner other than a “cover corner”?
What’s a cornerback that isn’t a “cover corner”? Is that like a “finesse linebacker”?
Big hits are nice but we’ve been here done that with safety Roy Williams and I think we’ve learned our lesson about putting guys in the secondary that can only do the job of a lineman.
Hope Wall turns out, we need a 4th corner on this team. Just saying… making big hits in special teams isn’t what we need our 4th CB to do if Newman goes out and he’s asked to cover Wes Welker in the slot.
by Blue Eyed Devil on May 10, 2010 4:41 PM CDT reply actions
Ronde Barber
…has had a very nice career in this league being a cover 2 corner. He also won a Super Bowl with very average safeties playing behind him.
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
The only problem for Wall is
that Wade would prefer not to play that way. He likes having the ability to play man when he needs to. Wall under Wade (which sounds painful) might project to be one of those Ball-type guys; a hybrid CB/FS.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Wtf
Apples and oranges, 3-4 and Tampa two
no point…..
by Cknbonenowison on May 11, 2010 11:20 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Actually its a good point their are guys who do better off the reciever and guys who do better with more of a bump and run.
Tampa runs a 4-3 not a Tampa 2. Tampa 2 is the coverage scheme they use.
KICK ASS every day!!!
As usual, squidlo adds some logic and cerifiable data to the conversation...
This is why I questioned the pick to begin with!
He looks more like a guy who has Barber’s skill set than Darelle Revis’ skill set.
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
When you brought that up and mentioned last years pick as well I felt we wasted a pick.
This is the second year in a row they have done this. I hope I am are missing something here. I remember said Raf said, " you dont draft someone you think has no chance of making your team."
I feel like we did just that with Young and Wall. I give them the benefit of the doubt, but…..
KICK ASS every day!!!
But in the 6th rd, it's more likely to find a good zone CB
Since any CB’s who excel in man coverage are most likely gone by that point.
I think Wall looks like a good prospect as a 4t/5th CB right now. Maybe Campo can help turn him into a decent man CB also. His scouting reports mention his ability to flip his hips without losing speed, and the fact that he did some kick return work at TT would indicate he has the ability to play man.
Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Felix Jones = defensive coordinator's Kobayashi Maru scenario
by APerfectStar on May 11, 2010 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Right
but also to begin replacing some of the higher priced vets who are primarily ST players.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Great
Another draft pick for Specials…
At some point, we’ll have the most talented kick return team in NFL history.
Forget the fact that our QB will be on IR and the O-line will be getting social security checks on top of their salary from the Cowboys.
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Blings, isn't that just a BIT harsh?
The Cowboys have hit on several late-round and UDFA’s in recent years, why complain about the mere “potential” that a 6th rounder is a miss?
As for the O-Line, how many prospects did Dallas have a shot at with a higher ceiling than Barron? If we go the FA route to replenish our O-Line, why is that so much more disappointing than taking a flier on a mid/late draft pick?
This O-Line stunk it up against Minnesota, true… but don’t ignore their body of work … they grade out better than most lines in the league … and 32 is not “over the hill” for an O-Lineman … but I think you already knew that?
Try not to get into a pissing match with a skunk :)
I assume you also want to ignore the coaching staff's optimism for Brewster and Bright?
Try not to get into a pissing match with a skunk :)
5Blings likes to ignore anything that interferes with his ability to gripe, LOL
Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Felix Jones = defensive coordinator's Kobayashi Maru scenario
by APerfectStar on May 12, 2010 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
ST play will land him a spot on the roster
What he can do after that will make the difference between just a guy, and starter down the road. I liked the pick because that was a deep draft at CB, and I didn’t want Dallas to miss out, even if they didn’t get to it until the 6th rd.
Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Felix Jones = defensive coordinator's Kobayashi Maru scenario
by APerfectStar on May 12, 2010 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions

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