Seven Training Camp Battles For The Dallas Cowboys Offense
In his press conference after the first day of OTAs Coach Wade Phillips formulated what may be the theme of this year's training camp activities:
"Competition makes you better. The real good guys compete all the time, and they're competing with themselves trying to get better. The Tony Romos of the world, those kind of guys. There won't be anybody coming in and beating him out, but he’s competing all the time to try to get better."
For all others, training camp means other guys competing for your job, according to Coach Phillips.
"Some guys are more motivated by somebody else being there. You'd like them all to be self-starters [and be] guys that compete to get better all the time, but it doesn’t always happen. So if you have competition at any position it certainly helps."
Competition is the name of the game for Cowboys Training camp, but the players may end up battling more than just other players. Here are some of the training camp battles on offense to look forward to:
1. Wide Receivers vs. The Depth Chart
Miles Austin, Dez Bryant and Roy Williams are locks and Kevin Ogletree has a good shot, but all bets are off as to who goes where on the depth chart.
Let's assume the Cowboys keep only five wide receivers. Patrick Crayton and Sam Hurd have both asked to be traded. Hurd could be let go. Crayton may still have a great deal of value for the team, but it looks unlikely that he can overcome his wounded pride. That leaves one spot on the depth chart for any of the following players:
Manuel Johnson and Jesse Holley have had a year on the practice squad to hone their craft, and did that so well that the coaching staff awarded them the game balls after a victory over Philadelphia. Apparently, the coaches credit their work as a key factor in the team limiting DeSean "sting they ass" Jackson to three catches for 47 yards.
Titus Ryan was brought in primarily as a return guy but his speed has coaches turning their heads so fast they might develop whiplash before TC even starts.
Verran Tucker, Terrell Hudgins and Rashaun Greer are all UDFAs who will give it everything they've got to make the roster.
2. The O-Line vs. Hudson Houck
Romo cannot be allowed to fight for his life because the O-Line isn’t holding up. The Cowboys have all these shiny toys on offense, but to use them, the line needs to protect the quarterback. Houck needs to get at least one more solid season out of the four returning veteran starters, decide on a left tackle, sort out the backup situation and determine who is best suited for the 45-man roster on gameday.
"I'm kind of excited about it. I think this is great thing to watch. This is fun. This is about competing. This is about team play. This is about somebody stepping up and taking a job. I'm really excited. I hope you guys are too."
3. Cowboys vs. Penalties
The Cowboys tied for third with Philadelphia and Baltimore in the NFL with 115 penalties last season, three penalties behind league leaders Green Bay, and ranked fifth in penalty yards. And if you think that releasing Flozell Adams will solve the penalty issue, then think again, because the issue is much more systemic.
No other team has a longer active streak of being in the league top 10 in penalty yards than the Dallas Cowboys. The Cowboys are the only team to finish in the top ten for four consecutive seasons (2006-2009), and are also the only team with a four year active streak of 800 or more penalty yards. Runners up with active streaks of three consecutive seasons: the Packers and the Raiders.
4. Dez Bryant vs 1st Round Expectations
The last two wide receivers the Cowboys selected in the first round were Michael Irvin in 1988 and Alvin Harper in 1991. And if that doesn't set the bar high enough for Dez Bryant, why not give him the number 88 jersey as well? Way to manage fan expectations, Mr. Jones.
5. Stephen McGee vs. The Clipboard
So far, McGee did a bang-up job as a clipboard holder, but he wants and needs to show more in 2010. McGee did see action as the scout-team QB, and his spot looks pretty safe for 2010 behind John Kitna, who by the way didn't get any younger last year. But McGee needs to show that he has progressed to where he at least is an adequate backup or he might not make into his third season in Dallas. Matt Nichols' chances of making the roster are slim at best.
6. TE vs FB vs. H-Back vs. Offensive Shemes
With the success of the 2 TE set last season, a resurrection of the H-back position (possibly at the expense of the fullback) may not be completely out of the question, and no, H-Back is not a halfback. H-Back is a hybrid position, a cross between a tight end and fullback. The H-back can line up in the backfield or on the line or be sent in motion, and some might argue that Bennett last year was more successful as a H-back than as a pass-catching TE, but that’s a whole different subject.
The Cowboys are already stacked at TE with Jason Witten, Martellus Bennett and John Phillips, yet saw fit to invite not one but three more TEs to camp in Scott Sicko, Nick Tow-Arnett and Chris Gronkowski.
A lot of tight ends are either finesse, pass-receiver types of tight ends or they're blockers. All three Cowboys UDFAs do both pretty well and would fit the mold of a fullback/H-back/tight end hybrid.
Here’s a quote from Scott Sicko directly:
Q: Do you think you could play both a "move" tight end like an H-back as well as an in-line tight end? What about fullback?
Sicko: I don’t really like to put labels on myself like that. The only reason for that is because it doesn’t matter to me. I would just like to be part of a team. I will be more than happy at any of those positions and which ever one I am at, I will give it my best effort to perform well.
Depending on how training camp shakes out, there might be one additional spot available for a fourth tight end. Strangely enough, this most likely hinges on whether David Buehler can be successful as a place kicker, thus opening up one additional roster spot.
7. David Buehler vs The Uprights
Right now the coaching staff is favoring David Buehler to take over field goal duties, and potentially free up a roster spot. In his last season at USC, Buehler made 9 of 13 field goal attempts for a FG percentage of 69%. Not great, but definitely an improvement of the combined 64.5% of Nick Folk and Shaun Suisham. The Cowboys have hired Chris Boniol to help him, but have so far also retained Connor Hughes. Just in case.
What are the battles you'll be keeping an eye on in OTAs and training camp, and why?
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The WR spot is most intriguing to me
Sounds like there may be some talent that won’t make it strictly based on numbers.
This post seems to dimiss Hurd and Crayton
From what Hurd has said, he’s looking forward to competing this year as a Cowboy, and I would assume we’d ignore Crayton’s demands and bring him back also.
I understand being concerned if you’re the Texans and Andre Johnson is holding out, but since when do teams worry too much abotu the demands of #4 WRs? I would think both Hurd and Crayton will come back and will compete for spots on the depth chart with all their characteristic motivation, since their careers depend on it, and I’ll be happy to have them.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
As much as I like the idea of so many quality guys competing to make the team...
You have to think that Ogletree, Roy, Miles and Dez are locks.
That’s a TON of guys competing for the last spot – a spot usually reserved for a future prospect, not a higher-priced, aging receiver whose ceiling equates to a #5.
That leaves Crayton on the outside looking in if we want to keep looking at Hurd (?), Manual Johnson or a Titus Ryan.
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
That's part of the reason I want them to keep RW on a short leash.
We’ve got a lot of talent on the bottom of the roster that I’d like to see given a chance. I’d really hate to see Manny be exposed to other teams on the practice squad again. We got away with it last year because nobody knew what he was. Now, all of the other GM’s have seen the article where he and Holley were receiving game balls for being able to impersonate the Eagles WR’s. If they’re that good, maybe it’s worth a shot for another GM that needs a 5th WR due to injury or lack of performance. Everyone knows we’ve got mad depth at WR and can’t fit them all on the roster. The vultures will be circling.
It’s going to be a kick in the ‘nads if RW gets sat down during the bye week due to poor performance and we’ve already lost Crayton, Hurd and/or Johnson to other team(s).
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why?
I actually HOPING that scenario plays out. I think Ogletree, Dez and Austin are our future at WR; I’d rather get that ball rolling sooner than later. And whoever wins the #5 spot will be no slouch either.
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Agreed...I see Austin, Dez and Tree as our future.
But, I’m stuck between not wanting to see anyone on our team fail and not wanting to lose guys that have a lot of potential but are stuck behind him because of JJ’s stubbornness.
Contrary to popular belief, I’m not wishing for RW to fail. I just feel that he’s not going to be enough of a threat, reliably enough, to consistently pull coverage from Austin and/or Dez. Teams are learning his shortcomings.
And I really don’t want to lose reliable production and high upside guys while it all shakes out.
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Agreed, I'd love for Roy to prove me wrong
I’d love for Roy to have a monster season. I’d love for that season to be so huge that every Roy Apologist (AKA Longhorn Fans) comes to this blog and says to me “Whaddya think of Roy’s Blocking Now? HA!” I’d love to eat crow with respect to Roy.
I just don’t see it happening
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HEY LUKE! OVER HERE!!
DalaiLuke was looking for “the love” earlier. I just wanted him to know where it was. As you were…
I am pessimistic that it’ll happen as well. But I guess they have the whole pre-season to watch the new RW and make a decision.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
mmmmm... BTB luv :)
… wait, is this some sort of pet-cat reverse psychology thingy?
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
I don't agree
The goal here is not just to stock our team for future years. The goal is to try to win a championship THIS year. To me, that means that it is risky to have 3 of your top 4 WRs be a rookie, a guy with 7 career receptions, and a guy with one year of NFL success (although I obvious think Miles is the real deal). And the 4th is Roy Williams. Who is terrible.
To me, Patrick Crayton definitely still has a place on this team as a valuable contributor, both as a reserve return man (where he performed exceptionally well last year) and as a dependable #3 or #4 WR who knows how to play the slot.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
You can easily make a case for Crayton
He’s been a solid player and a Romo favorite. But with at least two return guys ahead of him now, and the WR depth chart filling up in front of him, it’s hard to justify a spot.
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
I have much more sympathy for Crayton than Hurd
Crayton has proven to be a valuable commodity to the Cowboys year-in and year-out with no signs of slowing down.
This marks Hurd’s 5th season with the Cowboys and he’s shown no ability to become a starter. I think the 5th string WR needs to be a guy like Miles Austin was in 2006 or Titus Ryan is today. A guy that may not be ready today but as a high ceiling. A guy whose cieling is kick and punt coverage? I don’t want him taking up one of our 53 spots on a team as stacked with talent as ours is this year.
If Hurd can prove he has the potential to start and beat out a guy like Ogletree – let’s keep him. If it’s the same old Sam Hurd, I’m absolutely fine with churning the bottom of the roster.
by Blue Eyed Devil on May 21, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually Houck needs to get at least 2 or 3 more years
out of Gurode, Kosier and Bigg. I can see maybe Brewster beating out Colombo next season, but the interior of our OL has to hold up a few more years because even if we draft some OL next season, they probably won’t be ready their rookie year.
Right now, Gurode is our only OL that has played center in an NFL game.
In Romo we Trust
That is not a viable plan
Before the closeout of the 2011 season, Gurode, Kosier, and Davis will all be 33 years old. That will likely put them all into the top ten oldest starting lineman in the NFL (out of 160 starting lineman).
Whether by free agency, trade, promotion of a backup already on the roster, or 2011 draft, Dallas will likely need to replace at least 2 of these players to finish out the 2011 season. Only a high 2011 draft pick will likely be able to be ready to start before the year closes out.
I just hope the Cowboys can make it through this year with its set of interior lineman.
by doomsdayreturns on May 19, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I disagree
If they were turning 35 or 36, then maybe, but at 33 they should have a few more good years left.
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Not True
DDR is right, check this out http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2010/5/2/1454582/age-and-the-ol-why-the-2010
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by lets-go-dea-cons on May 19, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Jimmy K is wrong about age and the OL
There are plenty of OL that are very effective before their 35th or 35th birthday.
In Romo we Trust
Oh, I forgot...
Evidence to the contrary doesn’t matter
by doomsdayreturns on May 19, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
actually that evidence supports my argument
as a guy like Alan Faneca at age 33 still can play and probably will be really good for at least a few more years.
In Romo we Trust
Don't forget Kevin Mawae
He’s 39 now, but was playing at a high level until last year. Even then, he was better than quite a few Centers on other teams.
But most would agree, these guys are more the exception than the rule.
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by lonewolfz28 on May 20, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
the better players are the ones that seem to play well
into the early to mid thirties, and since Bigg and Gurode made multiple pro bowls, I’d say their two of the better OL in the game.
In Romo we Trust
"Pro Bowls" is the worst metric for evaluating O-linemen
The way pro bowl spots are assigned are through a popular vote. Fans have 1/3rd of a say in it. Do you think fans are voting based on their amazing knowledge of interior O-line play? Or do you think they’re voting for the logo on the helmet when it comes to interior linemen.
When I look at Gurode and Bigg I see guys who have become inconsistaint in their play which is the hallmark trait of highly skilled players who are declining due to age. Age doesn’t make you hit a wall one day, what it does is make you inconsistaint, then it makes you show only flashes of brilliance, then you hit a wall and are done.
These are two players that are declining in their abilities and every season we’re going to see fewer and fewer great plays and more and more bad ones.
by Blue Eyed Devil on May 21, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I disagree
2/3 of the voting is conducted by coaches and players and they know who is good and who isn’t.
Bigg and Gurode have a couple of good, solid years of being productive for us barring any unforseen injuries.
In Romo we Trust
I have to agree with Terry here
We might not have true pro-bowlers across the line, but these guys are FAR better than the average fan is willing to admit. If their play starts to drop off, then you can squawk about it, but give them their due… until the Minnesota game, they played well. Everyone wants to see upgrades, but I’m not crying over the O-line we have.
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
More of the usual nonsense
Terry – you seem to think that providing one counter-example is equivalent to refutation of the broader statistical case. Even if you had chosen a good counter-example, you wouldn’t have made a case. However, you chose Faneca, who the Jets just cut to be replaced by a rookie ( or a second-year backup).
Here’s the quote from an ESPN article:
Privately, the organization believes Faneca slipped in his pass protection. According to STATS, he allowed 6½ sacks last season, high for an interior lineman. Faneca’s agent, Rick Smith, shot down a report that said the Jets offered his client a chance to stay if he took a pay cut.
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5132584
by doomsdayreturns on May 20, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I disagree
Faneca will play well for the Cards, the jets cut him for economic reasons only…if you believe anything ESPN says, you’re a fool.
In Romo we Trust
Wrong
His play had slipped. The Jets still have to pay 5 million in guaranteed money no matter where he plays, so the solely economic argument is a failure.
If you believe nothing that ESPN says, you are a fool.
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Either way, Dunk's a fool :)
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Count me in as a fool as well
Because by Terry’s definition, if you don’t agree with his proclamation you are a fool, evidence be damned.
PFF had Faneca ranked 67 out of 84 for guards.
Analysts have been discussing his fall off.
His own team, who had 5 million reasons to keep him, cut him for a rookie.
But I am the fool!
by doomsdayreturns on May 21, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't wanna walk down this path :)
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
I just like seeing your replies :)
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
His pass protection had fallen off pretty highly.
He was still a road grater, but there’s alot of analysts I’ve seen that say that he played pretty horrid in pass protection.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 21, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Does anyone find it funny that the Eagles blog on SB Nation posts stories entirely dedicated to the Cowboys?
Would you EVER see a post here entirely breaking down a unit of the Eagles team?
The inferiority complex they have over there is amazing.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
Can you really blame them....
….After how last season ended?
by Pnut Gallery on May 20, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Man if i was them i'd be keeping a low profile and not trying to rile us up. They just moved Macho Harris to Rt corner for gods sake.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
Talking about getting the last laugh ...
After stewing on 44-6 all of last year’s off-season, we got that proverbial monkey off our backs while shutting up the entire city of Philadelphia… yet when’s the last time someone on BTB even MENTIONED that sweet trouncing?
We don’t care about Phily, they’re barely a hurdle on our way to the SB.
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Even funnier is how they all grasp...
onto it like it’s gospel and even link to it on our board to try to prove a point.
Kind of sad how it seems like it’s one of their only hopes of competing is if our O-line implodes.LOL
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They have been the weak sister in the
NFC East since the Cards left. The fans know their team is the red headed step child of the division. They are the worst fans in the NFL and don’t deserve a SB trophy. Karma is hell.
I thought the Redskin held the honour of being...
the perennial cellar dwellers since the realignment.
Rabid and luvin' it
I'm talking about the last 40 years.
The Cards were really bad for most of that time, no SB wins and almost no playoff wins. The Eagles have won some playoff games, but no SB trophy. Dallas, NYG and Washington have won SBs.
Which brings up another topic...
how many people think the Cards would’ve made it to the Superbowl a couple seasons ago if they’d still been in the NFC East. LOL
I agree, the Cards are career underachievers. I guess I was stuck on the “what have they done lately” side of things. The Eagles have been contenders for the last decade. The Redskins haven’t been.
Rabid and luvin' it
I find it really strange that we have Giants and Eagles fans as regular posters, but no Redskins fans are regulars here
I wonder why that is
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I think their fan base is so sick of
little Danny and losing that they don’t want to talk football. You really can’t blame them.
Faux Sports is the same way.
The Cowboys board is the most active. The Eagles and Giants boards are active, but not on the same scale or with as many different posters. The Redskins board is pretty much a ghost town.
One of the most active posters on the Eagles board is a Cowboys fan that likes to mess with them and has a few friends over there.LOL
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33 is the time to ice em down and work on your short game, at least for an ol
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by lets-go-dea-cons on May 19, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Whatever the magic age
they are getting to the point where the odds start favoring some number of them declining in ability.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
after the next year or two I would agree
thats why we really need to draft some OL next year
In Romo we Trust
One way or another.
You would hope as a fan, that guys like Travis Bright and Robert Brewster would be developing.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 19, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
I think oline will be a big priority in the draft next year, but still hope these 2 can be future starters
it would be a dicy proposition to address the OL in the draft next year, if
the team performs according to most of our expectations, we’ll be drafting at 25+ spot which means that all the good OL will be gone by than. OL needs to be addressed by trade ( dare to say MBIII ) or in free agency, which always makes me cringe, because means shelling out a huge contract.
well it's hard to project a year out
exactly who is going to come out, how deep the draft will be at the positions, and who is going to fall because of other demands. You’d like your first round pick to start right away, but even if an interior oline guy could start in 2012, he’d still be on a faster track than the 3rd and later round guys we’ve been getting.
all valid considerations, but
my point was that it will be extremely unlikely we’ll find an OL late in the round, who will be ready to contribute from his rookie year, unless the team stinks up the joint
Oh, I think oyu can definitely find an interior OL starter in the late first or even second round
I’d be confident in our ability to get an OG or C rookie starter even if we had the dead last pick in the first round. Guys like Maurkice Pouncey are not top 15 guys, their positions just don’t command that type of attention. OT is another story, of course.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
Regardless of Age
The middle of the line is where we need to upgrade. I hope someone is a pleasant surprise this year and next to begin replacing the C and G positions. This was our problem in the MN game and our lack of a short yardage push.
Some good run blockers would be nice so that every running play did not have to be a draw
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at least we can throw slants now
so the fake-slant-draw actually works
it’s the “pass-action play” instead of the play-action pass.
say that ten times fast
But you are right. The Cowboys like the delayed draw because it is the run counter to their pass-oriented schemes. It keeps the pass-rushers honest. And a fake draw creates your outlet. I’d like to see Choice run from this play more often …
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
It's not just keeping pass rushers honest
As Raf and others point out, this line doesn’t explode off the ball well. If they don’t freeze the defensive line for a second with the draw, they get up into the offense before the offensive linemen can get to them. They can then disrupt the play even if they can’t overpower the o-linemen. The draw gives that moment of hesitation that allows this slower footed line to get into the defense instead of vice versa.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
One thing I sincerely don't understand ...
Why don’t linemen disguise the play better? It seems every run play has them shooting, while every pass play has them on their heels… I know that’s simplistic, but why isn’t some combination used more to reduce the ability of the defense to anticipate.
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Haha
That’s certainly true. And it’s even more true because we just cut out best run blocker (Flozell). Although I do like our draw play.
I’m pretty confident that Free is not going to be as good in the run blocking game, at least at the point of attack, as Flozell was. So I guess there’s some concern about our run game— unless we use TEs more to block (and we used them quite a bit last year), I don’t see how our run game could be expected to get better from last year. Maybe more Felix, less MB3, results in a change?
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
I like the draw play also, just not every single time
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Well I think optimism for the run game
can be derived from the fact that Felix will get more touches and the Cowboys should have even more passing weapons to keep defenses on their heels.
Personally, I expect us to run for only slightly more yards next year, but the key is that I expect more explosive plays with Felix getting more carries.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on May 20, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
why manuel johnson and jesse holley
were too important on that desean jackson thing?
i want to know please, they played the mirror? i don’t think so
From what I remember
They watched hours upon hours of film on him and perfected his routes and tried to copy the same type of play that he does on the field and they did it pretty good, or so it seems. My guess is they also coached the other guys on what they found and gave little pointers on what worked to either slow him down or just make him ineffective. :)
thanks
and by the way another question who knows which WR is the 13 in our team? he looked very good on one play you can see on the OTA highlights
Lorenzo Washington - Unlucky number 74
If you are #74 in preseason, your odds of making the team are pretty darn slim. I know they can change your number if you make it. But I don’t think it has ever happened.
by JimmyJohnson on May 19, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
?
I have never heard that before.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 19, 2010 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
The coaches are still looking for Bob Lily. They like to see the number out there I guess.
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I’m anxious to see how Alan ball handles the pressure of coming into camp as “The Man” at the FS spot. An will the younger guys show enough skill to keep him on his toes.
Whether you think you can or you think you can't either way your right
by UnNessecsary Roughness on May 19, 2010 12:50 PM CDT reply actions
Ditto
And also the DL battle. We’ve got Lissemore, Aumavae and Siavii all battling to backup JRat. We have Spears, Bowen, Dixon, Hatcher, Washington and possibly Lissemore all fighting for one DE starting spot and two or three backup positions.
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by lonewolfz28 on May 19, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you see Sensabaugh moving to FS
and Hamlin at SS?
by I_miss_Switzer on May 19, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm hoping you are right, Terry... because it seems Ball is solid, consistent but not great...
Hamlin or Akwasi winning the job will be because they are playing exceptionally well… and what a luxury knowing your back-up FS (Ball) is also a solid back-CB.
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
I'm good with Ball or Hamlin this year.
But next year I have high hopes for our 4th round pick who’s name I dare not attempt to type or pronounce.
Akwa-see
btw for anyone who cares to try to pronounce it… I noticed in his interview on The Blitz last week, he pronounces it Akwasee, not Akwazee. (Bill Jones kept mispronouncing it even after he said it a couple times… subtle but real difference.)
See, you don't get this stuff at DC.com or ESPN ...
BTB … makes you king of your water cooler :)
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Unless you live in Chicago...
…and no one at the water cooler here is interested in hearing your excitement over the Cowboys hybrid H-Back/two TE offense and the match-up problems it creates.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
LOL ... yea, I don't get much Cowboys chat in downtown Phuket either :)
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Imagine living in Germany
where you get blank-eyed stares every time you start up about ‘American’ football.
by One.Cool.Customer on May 20, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
speaking of penalties....
Witten seemed (without actually looking up the numbers) to get a lot of false starts this year…hopefully he gets that resolved.
It was weird
Witten had those false starts, Pass intereference, holding….all kinds of different penalties last year. I don’t remember him having the penalty bug before.
Witten had 8 penalties
3rd most among TEs, after Davis (12) and Graham (10). And it seemed like some of them came at crucial times and maybe helped kill some drives. It is kind of hard to understand, he’s such a consummate professional that these mental errors are very uncharacteristic.
Considering he's usually playing hurt...
that might play a small part in it.
Rabid and luvin' it
by lonewolfz28 on May 20, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm all in on the safety battle and ILB battles.
We pretty much know Roy will start, and Dez will get lots of reps, but I want to see a blood bath at safety in the preseason…the opponents of course. I want to see safeties so desperate to win the battle that they are laying folks out in the preseason games. And I want to see our 2 shiny new ILB’s duke it out with the encumbents…and win.
When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.
Sean Lee/Penn State fan? No love for Keith Brooking?
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by lets-go-dea-cons on May 19, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
What's love got to do with it?
An upgrade is an upgrade, and if one’s available you ride with it.
by Dezstroyer88 on May 19, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Why'd you mention Sean Lee?
Why not Jason Williams. IMO he’s closer to starting than Lee. Interesting question from the standpoint of what your ulterior motive was for the question. You DID see that I mentioned 2 new ILB’s.
When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.
Just read a piece where Sensabaugh talks safety.
For what it’s worth Sensabaugh seems to think Mike Hamlin is ready to start right now. He had high praise, and basically went over the top talking about Hamlin’s skills.
When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.
14 ints in 43 starts (or 48 games total)
that’s about one every three games…now THAT’s the type of ball-hawking, game-changing type skills I’d like to see from our FS!!
No Position Challenges
People talk about competition. And we have it at a few spots on the bottom of the roster. But as far as I can tell, no incumbent starter’s job (except for the cricket) is at risk. Even Roy Williams #2 receiver spot is virtually guaranteed as we begin the season.
Spears starting spot may be in jeopardy.
Rabid and luvin' it
by lonewolfz28 on May 19, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe no incumbent ... but dont
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
:)
there are many camp battles to watch:
DEFENSE:
I like the DT depth competition.
Free Safety = Ball, Hamlin, Akwasi
DE = already mentioned.
Inside LBs = Just knowing this is now an area where depth is a strength is HUGE … getting a serious challenge to start would only be a bonus this year.
OFFENSE:
Left Tackle = Free and Barron
Second/Third WR = don’t write off Dez – or Ogletree too easily
Interior Line = is Bright better than any current starters?
The quality of the Cowboys depth is impressive. Don’t forget the hat-tip to Jerry. Many of our 2nd stringers would star on the early 2000s Cowboy teams. Sampling of starters: Choice, Ogletree, Dez, Sean Lee, J Williams, Scandrick …
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Good point about the talent upgrade.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
by Uncle Angus on May 20, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Well...
Free and Ball are new starters, so you could look at those positions as having had the incumbents unseated. And I think we should expect J Williams to challenge at the ILB spot, if not now, then by early/midseason.
I also consider #3 receiver a starting spot, so I’d look at that as a battle, and I guess you could argue that #2 TE is a battle right now? I have no idea what the coaching staff thinks of Marty B right now.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
Bennett vs Phillips
I know Bennett has the athletic ability edge, but he could find himself on the “RW Bubble” if he hasn’t made progress since last year – knowing his job and being able to put it into action on the field. I’d love for him to bust out this year, but I was expecting so much last year that I hesitate to climb on that wagon yet.
The second would be the Tree vs RW. RW won’t go down without a fight, but I think they are looking for improvement from The Tree this year too.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Is it just me
or is Bennett following the Vernon Davis career arc? Have all of the receiving potential in the world and be a devastating blocker, but fail to live up to expectations. Then, BOOM, blow up and be one of the best in the league.
by Mandmeisterx on May 19, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Vernon Davis in 2009
78-956-13
I certainly hope Martellus follows’ his career arc. Even if it means 10-12 drops a year.
There is no way
Bennett will be able to get 78 targets never mind 78 catches with Witten and the WRs on this team. It is a shame to because Bennet was rated the best TE in the country coming out of high school. Even Vernon Davis can’t make that claim.
There are just not enough balls to go around for him to break out with those kind of numbers.
yeah, being behind Witten he'll never get those kinds of numbers
but if he can even make a decent portion of that and just be a reliable guy that they can go to when they want to, when they have mismatches and especially in the red zone, then he can be a big weapon in the offense. When you have a guy who can block as well as he apparently can, it is a huge problem for the defense because they can’t go into their nickel or they’ll just get killed on the ground, but if they stay in their base it’s a mismatch thru the air having a LB or S trying to cover Martellus—if he can be consistent.
Well put ... Bennett creates some beautiful mis-matches
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Ya, heard that last year
Got to be on the field, and have to catch the ball.; That said, yes he does…….potentially
It's Only a Mismatch
If you can catch the ball.
If the ball hits the ground, it clearly wasn’t a mismatch.
by Blue Eyed Devil on May 20, 2010 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Not true
Physically, Bennett regularly creates a mismatch. However, that is only successfully exploited when you catch the ball.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on May 20, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't beleave it!
They say my checkard shirt is a mismatch with my with my stripe shorts, black socks and flip flops, but hey, That’s how I roll!
Watched the first Eagles game from last season the other night.
Bennett was 10 yards downfield mowing defenders down on multiple occasions. As an open field blocker that dude is a steam roller!
When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.
Hmm, is he better than Roy?
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
by Uncle Angus on May 20, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Nobody is a better than Roy
It takes a baaaaaaaad dude.
When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.
don't think so
bennett is still far superior to philips, he didn’t had catcheslast year but was very good blocking
Roy Williams vs Reality
It will be quite a battle, and I hope reality wins and sees his tail on the sidelines while Dez lights it up.
Greetings from the Humungus, the Ruler of the Wasteland, the Ayatollah of Rock and Roll-A. I laugh at your puny plans.
by Lord Humungus on May 19, 2010 1:17 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
sidelines? That’s crazy talk. Haven’t you heard? He and #9 are clicking like Montana and Rice. And he’s such a good guy, he’s even mentoring Dez even though …sniff… no one did that for him when he was a rookie…
by Boundforbeach on May 19, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
And it also takes a
BAAAAAAAAAAAAD man to take his job.
by Cowboysaficionado on May 19, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
B'B'B'B'B'B'Baaaaad ...
Dez is the man, but don’t write off Dunk’s pet Ogletree … it was practically a consensus around here last year that KO would be starting sooner than later. He has the skills to be in the mix. RW could be the FOURTH man before the end of the season.
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
don't write off Hurd either!
remember last year, he was largely perceived to have surpassed Miles in training camp, and when he did get his chances last season he made a few nice plays, the 4th down improvised catch that got them down the field (even tho he couldn’t come up with the slant twice in the end zone against Champ to finish it) and the TD against the Seahawks.
hurd = not big, not fast, not great hands
but great effort i guess? i don’t understand how anyone sees a starting caliber WR in hurd, or even a #3 guy.
I remember reading the same thing about Hurd last year.
He was catching nearly everything in sight during camp. He was really impressing people. Unfortunately, it didn’t translate into in-game performance as much as people hoped.
Rabid and luvin' it
by lonewolfz28 on May 20, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
well what I was responding to is Luke saying Roy could end up as the 4th WR. If it were based on pure skill, I think Roy could also get beat out by Hurd, and end up the 5th WR.
I just think we don’t know what Hurd’s got because he’s never been given the chance. We had lots of questions about Austin (especially his hands) before and look what happened to him.
Hurd is 6’2", taller than Ogletree or Crayton. And while he’s not huge, he is known for having a very strong upper body.
Hurd does have very good hands, like wolfz said he was catching everything in camp last year.
Hurd is not that fast, but he’s as fast as Roy and Crayton.
I’m not saying Hurd is going to be a great #1 or even #2 receiver, and he’s certainly not going to beat out Austin or Dez (in the long term) but if Crayton were gone and the roster was otherwise open to give him the chance, I think he could fill Crayton’s #3 role very well, and I do think he could beat our Roy if everyone was on an even playing field so to speak and given equal opportunities.
Hurd better than Roy? Based off what?
This is where the hyperbole gets ridiculous. Hurd has 31 career catches. Roy, as badly as he played, had more than that last year. Hurd made two plays last year as a receiver and one was off a completely broken play. If Hurd really had good talent, JG would have found a way to use him in special packages (like he did with KO) rather than when the Cowboys were clearly in control of the Seahawks and when RW was hurt against Denver.
Even this optimism about KO beating out Roy should be tempered. I really like Ogletree and think his speed and size are very attractive and will translate into results down the road, but the guy made exactly one down the field catch last year (it was against the Saints) that I can remember. And to be completely frank, RW himself had a good amount of success on the same screen/smoke route that KO made famous.
I know everyone would like to see Roy gone for various reasons (his comments, his underachieving, his pay, etc.), but these WR discussions are starting to take on the hyperbole normally associated with Lakers fans.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on May 20, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I admit it's a bit of hyperbole
saying Roy could get beat out by Hurd, but only because of his contract, not because of what they each could actually produce on the field. Hurd has never gotten the opportunity, partly because Roy was getting 86 targets even though he was catching well less than half of them, and Hurd just hasn’t had a lot of playing time.
Just compare what each has done with his opportunities in 2009…
Roy: 86 targets, 38 catches, 44% completion, 6.9 ypa
Sam: 12 targets, 7 catches, 58% completion, 11 ypa
It’s a small sample size, but there’s no argument that he’s been a lot more productive with the few opportunities he’s been given.
And Sam isn’t just a guy coming out of nowhere, he’s been on the term, he knows the offense, he’s had some time to work with Romo (including when they were both 2nd/3rd teamers), last camp he was the most impressive of all the receivers even over Miles, and 2 of his 7 catches were “big plays” (broken play in Denver and sideline TD vs Seattle) that showed some chemistry with Romo and some nifty YAC ability.
I don’t think Sam’s gonna be a superstar like Miles (then again we didn’t think Miles would do what he did either), but if you removed the contract and $ and trade and jerry’s ego from the equation and just put both guys on the field with equal playing time, equal chance for targets, given how Roy played last season I don’t think it’s hyperbole at all that Sam could possibly beat out Roy for the job.
two excellent posts ... debate's alive and well at BTB
Two thoughts:
First, the small sample size with the Denver catch skews the numbers. Hurd doesn’t have anywhere near the YAC ability of Miles. He had a good TC, but even Ogletree was getting his reps late in the season.
On the other hand, Roy has yet to show ANYTHING consistently enough to prove his reps. He’s been resting on his laurels, so no hyperbole needed – he’s set the bar low.
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
I guess my perspective is
it’s not going to be between Hurd and RW. It will be between Hurd and Crayton. They are the same guy, basically – good hands, not incredibly fast, big enough to handle going over the middle. I think this training camp they’ll decide if they keep the more expensive older veteran or the younger project. RW’s fate may be a separate deal altogether – if Dez is ready, is RW really cost effective to keep as a low-touch #3? And if RW plays really well (OK, it’s possible), do you keep him at #2 and bring Dez along a little slower?
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
If Roy plays well, of course you keep him as a #2
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Unicorn ranches???
I’m still trying to come to grips with Flying Spaghetti Monsters and now you put Unicorn Ranches on the table?
I just can’t cope with all this new stuff…
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
no way, that is just crazy talk
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I agree on Hurd being more of a Crayton type guy
I was just responding originally to Luke’s comment that “RW could be the FOURTH man before the end of the season.” Saying he could even be the 5th man because even Hurd could be better than he is.
Here's the thing though.
You are assuming that Roy is getting more targets than Hurd only because of his contract. I would posit that this is not the case. This isn’t to say that our coaching staff is awesome at getting the right players on the field (Austin was on the bench after all for the first four games), but when you look at the discrepancy (86 to 12) I think you have to conclude that it wasn’t just the contract that led to that difference. I would chalk it up more to the fact that Roy has much more natural talent and even as much as he underperformed last year, he still played pretty darn well in some games. And that is something that you can not honestly even say for Hurd. In his entire career he has only had one game of 4 catches, and his three games with 3 catches have all come when the number one receiver at that time was out with an injury (T.O. in 2007, RW in 2009). Now I am sure many would argue that is a function of his lack of opportunity, but I would argue that if he really had talent similar to Roy that he would have found more opportunities at some point in the last four years. Eventually I think you just have to understand that a guy has reached his ceiling and that is likely where he will stay. With Roy I don’t think that is the case considering he actually does have a Pro Bowl season on his resume and has at least actually been a legitimate #1 WR in his career.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on May 21, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I dunno
you could have said exactly the same thing about Austin last year. i get what you’re saying and certainly there’s some truth to it, but don’t think it’s the whole story by any means. I think if Hurd was given more opportunity, he’d have a decent chance to be just as productive as Roy has been.
At least we have a good punter and defense
Just need McBriar practicing those coffin corner kicks.
by Left Coast Cowboy on May 19, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
DIRE, your name was never more appropriate ...
How many big play-off games were decided by a FG? I can think of a few Super Bowls too. If “HOPE” is our strategy, we could live to regret trying to save on that last roster spot.
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
We're not likely to have an elite FG kicker.
But didn’t I read that the average made FGs since about the time Steve Hoffman left has been 76% or thereabouts? I can’t provide a link because I don’t remember where it was.
Buehler made 69% at USC.
Would you be satisfied if he made 73% this year and kept his 38 touchbacks on kickoffs? I think I would.
I’d tell my coaching staff we needed to score TDs and take the pressure off the FG kicker.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
by Uncle Angus on May 20, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Dallas needs a FG kicker that can make
at least 80% of his kicks from 50 yards and in. From 50 to 55 yards 70%, that would be a little less than an average kicker in the NFL. If I remenber right in 2009 84% was average in the NFL.
not that many good FG kickers to go around
Looking at PFF last season, the top kickers (5) were over 90% total, and there were a bunch in the 80-90% range, but there’s not 32 average or above average kickers in the NFL (by definition) so the question is, exactly who are we going to get? A guy like Stover who is heading over the hill and may have trouble at the 50+ kicks? Some guy out of the UFL or some other league who is untested in the spotlight of the NFL? And the thing is, you don’t know what % he is going to make, until after he’s made or missed them lol. I just don’t know that we’re going to find anyone out there who we can be too sure will do a better job than Buehler will, after his offseason training with Boniol. And to spend a valuable extra roster spot on it, we’ve got to be pretty damn sure that he’s going to be significantly better than Buehler would be. Last season we thought it would be worth it because of who Folk was before, but then he tanked and ended up being the worst kicker in the league. So we just don’t know. I think we’ve got to at least give Buehler every chance, and unless he looks absolutely horrible through camp, we roll with him to at least start the season.
I was hoping that Jerry was on the phone with Folk in the 4th Qtr of that Vikes game
Kickers can be streaky, throw in the off-season injury, a good portion of “kicker psychosis” and Folk seemed to just be having a bad stretch. At least that’s the optimist in me. I wish we found a way to bring him back for another look.
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
(Rotoworld) Jets K Nick Folk's job is already on the line after missing his first four field goal attempts in Thursday's practice.
Analysis: “Nick has to make a couple, or else we’ll find another kicker,” responded Rex Ryan after Folk drew bronx cheers upon drilling his fifth attempt. This may not end well. Folk had confidence issues aplenty last season, and this certainly won’t help matters.
by Pnut Gallery on May 20, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for the heads up... BTB rocks
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
I guess a three minute turnaround isn't bad....
I just happened to see that headline on my fantasy league page before checking back in with BTB. You guys have always given me A LOT of quick references and good info, so I’m just happy to be able to contribute.
by Pnut Gallery on May 20, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for the update.
I would’ve liked to see him put on IR last season to let the hip fully heal and get his confidence back. Wasn’t to be I guess.
Rabid and luvin' it
hasn't found his mojo yet
amazing how a guy can go from being iced clutchness itself, one of the most reliable kickers in the league (I still remember having total confidence in him making the 2nd 53-yarder to beat Buffalo) to this…
he needs a week with some Polynesian women ... that'll get yer mojo goin'
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Those things are HUGE :)
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
TE vs FB vs. H-Back vs. Offensive Shemes
I’d like to see Sicko in the H-back position push out Deon Anderson.
Pouting Crayton vs Playmaker Crayton
His agent has already said he’ll “honor his contract” (if he isn’t traded). Will he shut-up and battle for his position in the slot, or will we catch him doing sit-ups in his driveway?
I think so
His career is at stake. Once he’s in camp, he’ll play hard.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
Exactly
Crayton needs to shut up and play. Roy needs to shut up and ride the pine.
by JimmyJohnson on May 19, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I love Crayton
But I think I’m to the point of where we have plenty of young guys that just need a chance and are doing everything to be here and to make the team, while Crayton sits back and doesn’t show up. Put him up for sale and try out one of the new guys like Ogletree, Titus Ryan, Manuel Johnson or Jesse Holley. All these guys are trying their hardest regardless of the situation, while Crayton pouts. Again, I love me some Crayton, but I think some other guys are more deserving than him atm.
holler
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by lets-go-dea-cons on May 19, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't count out Terrell Hudgins either....
People aren’t talking about him as much because he’s never had the media coverage and they just don’t know his name, but if you look at the numbers (and records) he put up in college you know he’s got some real potential. Realistically, I wouldn’t expect to see much of him this year, but when you look at how many people are fighting for a spot that’s pretty much up for grabs….I wouldn’t be surprised if he makes it.
by Pnut Gallery on May 19, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I think I'm at that point too
every year we have more WRs that I’d like to see on the squad than we possibly have room for. I think Crayton has been an very valuable contributor to this team and I have a huge amount of respect and appreciate for him, especially the rapport he has shown with Romo in clutch situations.
but… at this point, he may be 1) more expensive than a younger guy who can do the same thing, and 2) a so-called progress stopper for one of the younger guys who with experience is going to be a better long-term investment of training and reps at this point.
Hurd kind of falls into the same category. I always hoped he could get a chance to show what he could do at WR, and after all the team has invested in him it seems like he should get a shot like Miles did, but now with Miles, Roy, Dez and Tree, if all he’s going to be is a special teamer, it’s probably better for him to go to a team that could really use him at receiver, and give a cheaper and younger guy a chance to move up.
So I’d be sad to see PC or Hurd go, but I wouldn’t cry into my beer over it, and I’d love to see Tree basically take over the Crayton role to some extent, except with the added element of speed to stretch the field, and Holley, Manny and/or Titus step up and show he has what it takes to take over for Hurd in the ST department and get at least a few reps at WR this season.
Replace item number 7
The viability of David Buehler is an important issue, but I would classify that as special teams rather than offense.
Maybe item 7 should reflect the distribution of carries between the running backs. It seems ordained that Felix will get the most touches, but who should be the one that gets the majority of carries outside of Felix. I would like to see Choice get more carries that the Barbarian.
by doomsdayreturns on May 19, 2010 2:15 PM CDT reply actions
No one commented on this yet
But if I see McGee throwing checkdowns in a preseason game this year, I’m gonna vomit.
by Cowboysaficionado on May 19, 2010 4:27 PM CDT reply actions
Why?
You’re going to vomit over the third string QB?
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 19, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Even tough he's third string
He’s still supposed to be a project player. It would be nice to see the slightest progress, at least stop being a sissy.
by Cowboysaficionado on May 19, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Well...
it’s only his second year. I don’t think there is anything about him that would make me vomit.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 19, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Plus, he's now got Romo 2.0 behind him in camp.LOL
Matt Nichols has draw several comparisons to Romo when he first came to the team…right down to the “gunslinger” mentality.
Rabid and luvin' it
by lonewolfz28 on May 20, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Or...
stop falling for Romo’s pranks about the “mean streets” of Burlington, Wi.
by JimmyJohnson on May 19, 2010 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
i believe a guy named tony romo was a third strigner once upon a time......
by missingthe90s on May 19, 2010 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
And I wasn't vomiting over practice reports over him.
What is your point?
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 20, 2010 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions
McGee is garbage
Still can’t believe we spent a 4th on him
I don't know if he's garbage
But he’s clearly not the next great NFL QB. And he won’t become a great QB in our system because we don’t have a good QB coach.
I just wish we didn’t carry 3 QB’s on the squad. We are going to cut a much more talented player this year (probably a WR or D-Lineman) just to carry this dead weight. We have a solid #2 and we should be happy with that.
by JimmyJohnson on May 19, 2010 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear ya about having to cut someone
but what do you do if (no jinx) your #1 goes down for any length of time? Sign someone off the street to be your new #2?
Maybe we’d feel better if the #3 was a better prospect?
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
by Uncle Angus on May 20, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
McGee almost tosses ball out of stadium
and my brother, who saw every game he played in, was dismayed and surprised when we drafted him. Bottom line with him is that the Aggies coaching staff taught him a lot of bad habits – such as run first, pass second. Believe it or not, the kid was a great drop back passer in high school. First thing he did as a freshman on Camp Day One at Kyle Field was toss a ball into the upper deck and I understand he damn near threw it out of of the stadium – what an arm!
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by SaratogaRacing on May 20, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
On a different subject.....
Another star WR riding a bike on a Bill Parcells team during OTAs and probably training camp…..hahahahahahaha……the tuna must hate those WR divas……
Agreement
we are blessed at WR and need depth at center and we don’t know what we have at one safety position.Our third string QB is a waste.Other than that we look super.
We have material to trade.The Ravens have a OT they don’t want and they need WRs something like this will happen or we will get someone on waviers.
by TCB Orange Dino on May 19, 2010 5:52 PM CDT reply actions
Off topic but this is great news. The Eaglettes are moving Macho to rt cornerback.
Mwahahahaha
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
by stoproyce on May 19, 2010 7:31 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
really?
not too often you see a player that can’t cut it at safety get moved to cornerback—
although i don’t remember his technical shortcomings outside of general sucktitude
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My Wiz just won the first pick in the NBA Draft- The basketball gods have shown mercy.
I am going to be very interested to see what they do with Marlin Jackson.
I personally think that if they play him at CB that they will be making a pretty big mistake. He only has professional experience in the Indy defensive system (remember how bad Jason David played for New Orleans after leaving Indy?) and now that he has another knee injury to heal back from I don’t see him becoming a successful CB other than maybe in some spot duty. On the other hand, if they play him at safety I think he could be serviceable since the brunt of coverage won’t be forced on him.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on May 19, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
It's gonna be a pretty season of
scoring 30+ on the eagals.
by Cowboysaficionado on May 19, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Houck's quote is interesting
will there really be open competition for some of these OL spots? I don’t think Davis should be guaranteed of anything, and though I love Columbo, I don’t think anyone can say for sure his play won’t regress after another major injury. These guys played really awful in at least 5 games last year, and I don’t think the change at LT solves all our problems.
Hopefully, Brewster and Bright can make strides, or the team can find an interior lineman through FA (smiley for example)
The fact the Cowboys do not have a another player on the roster that has played
center scares the heck out of me.
Agreed.
If there was one player I would trust on our line to learn it though it would be Kosier.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on May 19, 2010 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you see Wade's press conference?
He said Kosier played several games at C, including starting a few games for the 49ers.
Dude, you are the head coach. How can you say things like this without knowing the guy has never played the position.
If Holland is nothing but a backup Guard – who couldn’t beat out Proctor when we needed a guard, why did we sign him?
by JimmyJohnson on May 20, 2010 6:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I just fear that if Gurode goes down
it is going to cause a domino effect. Its not just snapping the ball, but but making the correct line calls.
They are wanting Holland to try and learn C too.
Don’t know if it’ll happen but that’s the plan.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 20, 2010 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions
And Bright has been making snaps with the second team.
Between Kosier, Holland and Bright…we should be able to replace the Proctologist.LOL
Rabid and luvin' it
by lonewolfz28 on May 20, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, that's settin' the bar kinda high, dontcha think? :)
Holland seems to be a very solid insurance plan. He didn’t suck when he got time in 2008; if Bright can beat him out, even better.
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
I didn't see that but I wouldn't be terribly surprised.
After all, we all do realize that Wade really focuses on the defense (which I want to continue by all means). I am sure JG told him something about Kosier having taken snaps at center during a workout and/or a practice with the Niners and Wade got confused. Regardless, I really hope Bright develops into that backup C/G that we need (its not like he could be much worse than Procter). If he shows that ability, I would actually not feel too bad about our depth since I think both Barron and Holland are serviceable.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on May 20, 2010 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
OCC, is this a post without a stat?
Not a complaint – very good post, and (like all the front pagers) I find reading your posts to be extremely easy and enjoyable. Keep up the great work! I did rather enjoy Aaron’s link to the cheerleader tryout pics (hint hint) lol.
ha ha ha
the stats are cleverly hidden in the text, but you’re right, this may actually be the first post without a table or graph in it.
by One.Cool.Customer on May 20, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
For future reference though,
Cheerleader pictures are better than images of Roy. Even if you did manage to find one of those very rare pictures where he managed to keep the ball in his hands.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on May 20, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
How about a pictorial essay of Romo's "conquests" ...
… In bikinis, of course :)
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Haha
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on May 20, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
doesn't he catch all kinds of balls in practice though?
That seems to be some of the justification for him starting… Pretty sure I’ve heard/read Phillips and Garrett saying things like “We see him do amazing things and catch balls no one should catch in practices”.
That and his blocking skills.
O-line collapses in 2010
don’t flinch too much when you read this – I believe there is a chance that a scenario develops where a couple guys get injured and our OL collapses with Romo running for his life…and it all comes unraveled. I hope not, but I think our lack of drafting a top OL this year and last could come back to haunt us this year. So I am looking for the Brewster kid and one other to break out this year. And of course, we are all assuming that Doug Free is a capable backup at LT – geeeez.
"The Most Dangerous Man in the world is the one with nothing to lose"
by SaratogaRacing on May 20, 2010 10:24 AM CDT reply actions
That's some serious worrying
First off, there are TWO red-shirt rookies that the Cowboys are excited about. Not sure how they compare to other prospects we had a shot at drafting, but Brewster and Bright both look promising. Throw in Barron, and you’ve got three new faces joining the 53 this year.
Also: I believe the LT job is Free’s to lose … and if Brewster challenges Columbo for the RT spot, we could conceivably have 4 decent tackles on the team. Not many teams can boast that kind of depth.
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Sure the O-line could collapse
Injuries will happen. What team has a deep Oline?
The question is how well the QB and coaching staff adapts. A quick release makes an average Oline player look good.
The running game just needs another mauler. But say Columbo goes down and Brewster has to start. It wouldn’t hurt to run at that side to wear down the D, maybe have a TE or a big physical WR like Roy Williams chip the DE.
yeah there's a chance of that scenario developing for every team lol.
and some teams it did happen to last year.
Between Barron (most likely Free’s backup, not the other way around) and Holland, we at last have a couple vets who have some starts under their belt that cover basically every spot except C. Between Brewster and Bright, we have a couple youngsters who hopefully are the future. My biggest concern right now is C, Procter for all his shortcomings was valuable because he could play all 3 interior positions. We don’t really have anyone on the roster right now who we know could be a backup C.
But the nightmare scenario of losing multiple starting oline would seriously hinder most teams in the league.
I tihnk we can survive one injury on the OL
I believe Raf has pointed this out previously, but in the Torin Tucker/Petiti year, it was TWO injuries on the line that doomed us. We were strong enough to withstand one, and I think we still are.
I think Barron is a good backup at the swing tackle spot. He’s a 74 game starter in the league, and while I would never want him as our everyday starter, it seems like he has the ability to be competent back there in a limited stretch of games. You also have Brewster backing up at RT— I know nothing about him other than what I’ve read, due to his injury last year, but the staff seems confident in his ability as a backup there.
The danger to me in on the interior. Kosier as C backup is scary, but I guess it’s better than Procter. I think of Holland in the same way that I do Barron— I would never want him starting the majority of a season for us, but if Kosier goes down and Holland is paired with our other 4 starters, then I think that would be somewhat workable for a stretch.
The really scary scenarios start happening when TWO of the OLs go down. Because then you’re looking at Barron and Holland side by side, or Brewster and Holland, or some other line-up that really sounds bad for Tony and that I don’t think we could cover up very well.
So I only start getting really worried if 1) Gurode goes down, or 2) we have multiple injuries on the OL that last multiple games.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
Texans Stealing Spotlight
I read the following excerpt from John P. Lopez on SI.Com:
“The good news was quarterback Matt Schaub stayed healthy and became an elite-level quarterback who many consider more talented and polished than his cross-state colleague, Tony Romo. Schaub finished the 2009 season with 4,770 yards and 29 touchdowns and earned Pro Bowl MVP honors.”
Many? I’ll be accused of being a homer, but I’ll take Romo any day!
What he meant to write was "SOME people in Houston consider . . ."
I’m petty sure.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
"Some people in Houston who are Texans fans and don't watch Romo play."
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on May 20, 2010 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow. Talk about a stupid comment.
Schaub has much less pocket awareness compared to Romo and also has nowhere near the playmaking ability that Tony has.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on May 20, 2010 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, he had to find something positive to say about a team that has been a the definition of mediocrity for eight years.
This team cannot compete with its own division, it has a 1-15 record against the colts, but the last three years they have been the “dark horse” pick to make the playoffs. The media would like this team to be relevant to try and revive the old oilers vs dallas rivalry, but the tex-anns have yet to do anything that would merit any attention. Until they can finish 4-2 in their division they are not going anywhere.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

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