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Names Penciled In And Names In Ink: The 2010 Dallas Cowboys Offensive Starters

If we assume a good bill of health for the Cowboys' offensive starters and focus solely on training camp battles, there aren't many windows open for new names to crack the starting lineup. Other than maybe one or two spots, the coaches won't be using their erasers very much. Looks like a lot of ink on this side of the ball.

First, consider the 11 names on offense that finished the '09 season atop the depth chart.

Now, flash forward to mid or late February 2011. Which positions will see a name change by the end of next season? Which will see a change as early as Opening Day?

Star-divide

The Offensive Line

With the release of Flozell Adams, the name of the guy protecting Tony Romo's blindside is the first, obvious change to the Dallas offense. That name should be Doug Free unless Alex Barron shows to be more than just an insurance policy. There's also the chance Free could regress. But with Barron now in Dallas, perhaps some healthy competition is just what Mr. Hudson Houck ordered for Free.

If Free is penciled in as the starter on the left side, then I bet that lead is dark! The Cowboys hope that after camp he will show they can write his name in ink. Free knows what he has to do.

"I don't care if they pencil you in as a starter," Free said after Monday's opening of organized team activities. "If you don't play well and you don't practice well, you ain't gonna start."

Now let's flip it to the right side of the line. Barron has made it quite known that he expects to be competing for a starting position somewhere. He obviously prefers the left side.

"In my opinion, it's totally different," Barron said. "Some people think it's easier than what it is. In my opinion, technique-wise and the different (placement of) hands, it's just different. But I prefer to play left tackle."

As O.C.C. pointed out, the offensive tackles allowed 10 of the squad's 34 sacks last year on Romo. Though Free and Colombo were part-timers, they were only attributed as to having caused just a sack a piece in the regular season. Supposing that Free and Barron will battle it out at LT and that the team will focus Robert Brewster's camp snaps at RT, then we can put Colombo's name in ink to start out the season.

C Andre Gurode and RG Leonard Davis will also start out the season with their names in ink on the Dallas depth chart. If any interior lineman's name is in pencil, it would most likely be LG Kyle Kosier.

But who is going to challenge for Kosier's spot? Montrae Holland could give it a go. He's big, but he's big (Yes, I meant to say that). Perhaps his 325+ pound frame can provide the line some more power if he hits camp in football shape. It's interesting that Kosier, Holland, and second-year man Travis Bright have and will take snaps at backup center. Seemingly, the team is preparing all three guys to be versatile backups. Does that mean the coaches will push Holland to unseat Kosier, or is that just a what-if-Gurode-gets-hurt scenario?

The Backfield

Ink. Dark ink. Bold. All CAPS at quarterback. Tony Romo is primed to continue leading this team. Number two guy Jon Kitna has a strong hold on his role as the savvy backup, while Stephen McGee gets another year to show he's a project worth grooming.

The running backs, though, have the coaches whipping out their Dixon Ticonderogas. Essentially, Jason Garrett and Skip Peete could be erasing a different name each week if they wanted to. But who will begin the season as starter?

At halfback, Marion Barber's ink from last year may have turned to lead. Now, that's all conjecture at this point; although Felix Jones' name looks to be moving up to starter status. We know that Jerry Jones wants his "wow" guy to get the touches. But there's little doubt that Barber, Felix and, Tashard Choice all want to start. Whenever approached about their respective roles on the team, we always get the humble, team-first approach as Felix shares here.

"There's great competition between us," Jones said. "We make each other better by going out there and competing during practice, during this off-season, a lot of competition as far as running and lifting and everything like that.

"Like I always say, 11 guys on one team make the play happen. You can't do it by yourself. We're a team and that's how we play. If I don't get as many touches as I think I should have and we win the game, that's how it's supposed to be."

Because of the talent that each RB possesses, there will certainly be some platooning by the coaches. The argument on whether it matters or not who is named the starter is a subjective one. Everybody wants to see what Felix can do with more touches, but the Cowboys do like to pass a lot on first downs. We know Barber can be a devastating blocker, and he has proved to be a playmaker as a pass-catcher as well. Felix is just so darned fast, though.


And there is no guarantee that Felix won't be active in the return game either.

He's been fielding kickoffs during the first week of OTAs. As usual, Jones is open to doing whatever the Cowboys coaches want him to do.

"I practice it," Jones said. "Like I always say, I don't make those decisions. I do what I can and control what I can control."

Tough, tough choice for the Cowboys here.

Speaking of Choice, some of you may feel he is the best option at starting running back if you see the other two guys as role players and Choice as "steady Eddie". It's hard to imagine the coaches starting him over Barber or Jones. Though Garrett could look to expand his role in the offense somehow, it's highly doubtful Choice's name will be inked in as a starter unless the injury bug bites.

Choice, though, does make the best locker room videos of the three.


And what about the fullback position? Is it becoming the dinosaur position in the NFL? The Cowboys only keep one, Deon "Cricket" Anderson, from year-to-year.

Anderson's a strong run blocker (watch him mic'd up here against the Eagles), but not very active in the passing game. That may be why the team has recently added hybrid TE/H-back types in John Phillips last year, and seeing if Scott Sicko, Chris Gronkowski, and Nick Tow-Arnett can make a good enough impression this year. Gronkowski is more in the mold of a FB than the others, but I would say that Anderson is penciled in rather securely at the spot; he may even be in ink.

The Receivers

Sharpies all-around for the names Jason Witten and Miles Austin. The question is at the other wide receiver spot. With Roy Williams' fat contract and his determination to prove naysayers wrong, it's probably safe to assume that his name will be written in ink on that Opening Day depth chart. It won't be a Sharpie like Witten's and Austin's though. It will be a Bic. 

I wonder if at some point in the season whether Jason Garrett will be shaking his pen. A few dropped passes in tight games may cause some ink to dry. Shake it up with a little Dez Bryant maybe?

Let's not get carried away yet. Bryant is a rookie and the Dallas coaching staff hasn't shown a strong willingness to play rookies early. But who knows what will transpire by the end of the season? Initially, expect one heckuva battle in training camp. Williams does have a leg up on Bryant considering his experience, both in the pros and in Garrett's system. But Bryant has already dazzled folks with his large hands and aggressive route-running.


Of the 11 starting spots on offense, I've got these ones all inked in for the Cowboys' Opening Day roster:

LT, C, RG, RT, QB, FB, TE, WR1, and WR2

The only two written in pencil:

LG, RB

Will there be a Holland, maybe a Brewster, at LG? Right now, I doubt it. Somebody would have to do some thorough erasing.

And it isn't essential that the running back situation be switched up, seeing that Garrett will most likely rotate all three. But somebody has to start each game. This could be the year that we see a Jones there instead of a Barber.

Not much room on offense for new starters. It is possible we see the same 11 names from last season when Dallas travels to Washington on September 12. It may be more interesting, though, to project which 11 will end the season as the starting unit.

Ed. Note - Next in this series, "Names Penciled in and Names in Ink: The 2010 Dallas Cowboys Defensive Starters"

 

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FIRST to say that all Kosier does is get the job done, so forget the other guys, AND

that I hope Felix gets 40%, Choice 40% and MB III 20% of the carries,,,,,,that’s w/ no injuries, which will eventually help settle that “problem” anyways.

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on May 23, 2010 11:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah,

Switching up who gets the majority of the carries will make it harder for DCs to get on top of our game plan. I know MBIII played with an injury last year, he is a lot better than he looked. Also, I don’t like the stereotype that he should always be our short yardage runner, sometimes hitting a hole quikly will get that yard or two where MBIII could not move two DL and a LB.
I love the fact we will have competition on our O-line.
I’m so stoked for the season to start, it is ridiculous.

Someone knock me unconcious until August. No, September, preseason only makes it worse.

by BlueNSilverBlood on May 23, 2010 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Kosier’s game isn’t in-line power run blocking. Never was, never will be.

But he’s, by far, the smartest player on that line. He’s the most technically sound. And, if you believe the hype, he helps out Andre a lot with the line calls.

I doubt Travis Bright (who?) is going to do many of those things.

"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on May 24, 2010 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I`m not keen on getting rid of Kosier

but seems we need someone to at least give him a breather now and again.

by ziggy19 on May 24, 2010 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah. We should replace Leonard Davis before we would Kosier

Broadus sees how Davis is a liability. All the amateur grades showed Davis as our worst performer. But somehow, his name is in ink. I agree with Grizz’s assessment. But I wish he were the guy who is just penciled in.

by JimmyJohnson on May 24, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, didn't see this comment, just said the same thing below

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on May 24, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree on Kosier

I don’t see why his would be the name in pencil, he was our best overall OL last year (although I understand he lacks bulk in the run game). Leonard Davis was our worst interior OL. I’d think Holland would be backing up Kosier for sure, right?

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on May 24, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

How was Kosier the best lineman and Davis the worst?

I don’t see Davis being benched in favor of Holland any more than I would see it happening to Kosier. It may be unfair, but $$$ is a factor too.

Trust them...they know what they're doing.

by Aaron Novinger on May 24, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kosier graded out better than Davis

as reported by both the Dallas coaching staff (via DMN) and Pro Football Focus metrics. He was also the least expensive player on the OL last season (Free may take that title this year).

If you’re looking for a player to replace along the interior OL, you’d have to look toward the vastly overpaid and underperforming Davis.

by dacolan on May 26, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just don't see that happening this year.

Who would replace him? Holland?

Davis is still valuable to this team. His not having a great year doesn’t mean he can’t bounce back.

Trust them...they know what they're doing.

by Aaron Novinger on May 27, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

After Colombo

Kosier was by far the worst player in the Oline at that Minnesota game.

by Cowboysaficionado on May 24, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Deon Anderson

is criminally underrated by many. He’s tough as nails, loves the game, and works his butt off. Every team needs guys like him. I doubt he gets suspended for his arrest early in the offseason. It was his first offense in the NFL and right now it looks like the Anthony Spencer incident of last year.

As for the runningbacks, I say let Barber play the first series. He sets the tempo with his nasty running style. The defense hits hardest during the first series when adrenaline is at its peak and they are fresh. But Barber can set the tone and level that off real quick with his bruising style. After that, use him only in short-yardage, goal-line, and a closer role. Maybe on certain third downs for his pass protection or as a safety valve although Choice does that well too.
Aside from that, we should rotate Felix and Choice with Felix getting more touches. As the game wears on, deploy more and more of Felix as he has an even bigger chance of breaking a big run with the defense wearing down as the game wears on.
Finally, as said earlier, Barber should come in to close as he did so well in that role back in 06-07.
At the end of the day the carries should look something like:
Barber: 8-10 carries
Choice: 8-10 carries
Felix: 14-16 carries.

by BigD88 on May 23, 2010 11:40 PM CDT reply actions  

I think thats a good split of carries and seems logical.

Im sure in different types of games things always play out differently and you can always ride the hot hand but again I like your game plan.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on May 24, 2010 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bad Split

I don’t like 3 backs. I think 2 running backs is enough. Pick your best two and go with them. I don’t think there’s any real advantage to putting 3 backs on the field outside of just selling more jerseys.

If Felix is the best running back we have, give him 15-20 carries a game. Rotate in Choice or Barber in the goal line or short yardage situations.

But the idea that we’ll give each running back one or two drives I think breaks down momentum and isn’t putting your best player on the field. No one is getting winded after 8 carries.

by Blue Eyed Devil on May 24, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

3 running backs can absolutely work. The Saints effectively utilized 3 RB’s with differing skill sets last year (Pierre Thomas, Mike Bell, Reggie Bush). The Giants got significant contributions from 4 different types of RB’s when they won (Brandon Jacobs, Derrick Ward, Ahmad Bradshaw, Reuben Droughns). What’s wrong with finding roles for a bunch of good football players that happen to play the same position?

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on May 24, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

It never worked for the Eagles ...

Wait, cancel that line of argument … NOTHING’s worked for the Eagles :)

Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly

by DalaiLuke on May 24, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, it did work for the Eagles. Very early in the decade, the Eagles first couple of good seasons were the result of a 3-headed rushing attack in Duce Staley, Brian Westbrook, and Correll Buckhalter.

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on May 24, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

what do you think of Westbrook and McNabb together again?

The city was ready to see Donovan go, but Westbrook in a skins uniform?

Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly

by DalaiLuke on May 24, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Among my Eagles fan brethren, I’m in the minority in my thinking that Westbrook isn’t done yet. I think he can absolutely help some team out there, whether it be the Redskins or someone else. I’m not worried so much about McNabb going to a division rival because if there’s a team out there that knows the warts of any one player in the league, you’d almost have to go with the Eagles’ knowledge of McNabb. They’ll almost certainly put together a good gameplan to expose his flaws. But Westbrook, if healthy, is a legitimate threat if he’s anywhere even close to what he was 2 years ago. I’m not saying I’d be worried if he stayed in the division, but if given the choice, I’d prefer he land in the AFC.

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on May 24, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of all the RBs on the skins right now, Westbrook is the only one that worries me.

Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly

by DalaiLuke on May 24, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait… Did I miss a huge story? Did Westbrook sign with them?

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on May 24, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

damn, I thought that DID happen!

I really need to lay off the hard stuff.

Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly

by DalaiLuke on May 24, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, OK good.

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on May 24, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Peter king thinks TO is going to sign with Washington

On the other hand, PK is a an idiot

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by Seanrude on May 24, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I honestly can

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on May 24, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I honestly can't believe he didn't realize Arlington Cemetery was still active.

His comment about Brett Favre and Sydney Rice’s “sweet nothings” was also pretty classic since you could sense how jealous he was.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on May 24, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope he does. Guaranteed circus.

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on May 24, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Again, you need to look at actual game logs

Those 3 backs may have had significant stats on the season, but all 3 were seldom used within a single game. Injuries to all 3 of them were what enabled them to all have decent stats by year’s end.

In the course of NFL history, it has more often been the case that you can effectively get 2 running backs involved in a single game, but not 3. Over the course of the season, it’s a different story, but my understanding is we are talking about single game involvement since we’re so concerned with starting line ups.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on May 24, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who are you referring to? The Saints definitely used all 3 concurrently. I know they did against Philly, at least. Those 3 guys shredded us.

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on May 24, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Referring to the Giants of 2008

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on May 28, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you'll find that the Giants only really used two backs per game in that season

Injuries to Jacobs and Bradshaw at various points enabled all 3 backs to get stats for the season, but within any one game, only two backs were significant contributors that season.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on May 24, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

From what I recall, they used Jacobs, Ward, and Droughns concurrently throughout the season, and when Droughns went down, Bradshaw (a rookie at the time) filled in.

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on May 24, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Change "carries" to "touches"

“Touches” can refer to catches and punt/kick returns. I’m not necessarily keen on Jones on special teams if there are other options, but the passing game can benefit from having the team’s RBs also be capable of contributing.

The 3 RBs need to be involved, but not necessarily simply through “number of rushes.”

by jazzbo251 on May 24, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why goal line or short yardage or Barber/Choice?

Felix performed the best of the 3 on the goal line last year.

Just because Barber employs a physical running style does not automatically make him our best short yardage runner.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on May 24, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was my thought as well.

They used Felix on the goal line in the preseason and he was pretty effective at it. I think with his vision and his acceleration, I think he is definitely the best option near the goal line (he also gives us better toss/sweep options).

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on May 24, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Funny.

I just ran across this statement today that Felix has never had a reg. season carry under the 5-yard line.

Interesting fact I just came across: Felix Jones does not have a single career carry inside the 5-yard line.

FO Twitter

But I remember him in the preseason having success there, so count me in for him as the goalline guy except when Choice does his Razorback stuff.

Trust them...they know what they're doing.

by Aaron Novinger on May 24, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I was saying "goal line" when I should have been saying "short yardage" or "up the middle" type of carries

DIdn’t he also get a couple goal line carries in the playoffs?

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on May 28, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

If Barber at any point looks as bad as he did late last season

It would be a silly mistake to give him more carries than Choice.

by Cowboysaficionado on May 24, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't Know About Deon

All of us loved the Moose and we are hopeing for his clone to show up soon.

I may be dead wrong but I think when we needed Deon to make a play at a critical juncture of the game he didn’t more often than did.

I have heard the raves about Sicko and feel Phillips will be better this year.

When I think about all the weapons Romo has now I am elated.Then I remember the O line and cringe a little.

by TCB Orange Dino on May 24, 2010 12:11 AM CDT reply actions  

How often

Has a fullback been called on to make a play at a critical juncture of the game?
He’s simply a tough as nails, down and dirty run blocking fullback. And the best part is he loves it and goes hard every single time whether he is lead-blocking, in pass pro, or on special teams which is also very important and is being forgotten.
Also, I don’t remember the metrics but I believe this site posted the stats a few weeks back which show how the running game was very effective when Deon was out on the field (which unfortunately isn’t a whole lot since our OC is in love with the shotgun).

by BigD88 on May 24, 2010 12:18 AM CDT reply actions  

+1000

Three in a row too! The wife just rolled her eyes and left the room when she saw what I was watching..

"The greatest test of courage on earth is to bear defeat without losing heart."

by Benthere on May 24, 2010 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

DUDE!!

thats what my wife does when she sees me doing ANYTHING cowboys related!!!

by missingthe90s on May 24, 2010 7:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

4 in a row

They did 77, 92, 93, and 95.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on May 24, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

It is possible we see the same 11 names from last season when Dallas travels to Washington on September 12

since Flo is gone, im guessing you wont see the same 11 names :-) great article none the less\

Go Cowboys

by BigBad Joe on May 24, 2010 7:52 AM CDT reply actions  

The same 11 that ended the year against the Vikings ... :)

Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly

by DalaiLuke on May 24, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Get the eraser out

An equally interesting post would be to speculate which names will get erased by opening day. I can think of five already that should be shaking in their shoes…

"The Most Dangerous Man in the world is the one with nothing to lose"

by SaratogaRacing on May 24, 2010 8:34 AM CDT reply actions  

Here's my best-case scenario starting 11 for our last game of the year:

Free – Bright – Gurode – Davis – Columbo

Miles / Dez / Ogletree

Romo / Felix / Bennett / Witten

Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly

by DalaiLuke on May 24, 2010 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why do you think Bright over Kosier?

You want the entire left side of the O-line to have zero years of experience under their belts in a season with Super Bowl aspirations?

"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on May 24, 2010 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

The only way I'd want Bright in there is if he EARNS it over Kosier.

But I see Kosier as a weak link in our pass-protection, and am hoping Bright can push for time. The guy was a UDFA last year, but seems to be the type that can make it in this league.

Time will tell.

As for your “sky is falling” idea of zero experience, you and I obviously feel very different about Free.

Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly

by DalaiLuke on May 24, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think that if anybody unseated Kosier it would be Holland.

Bright could be a year away, imo; while Holland Dutch needs to make a move now to continue his career.

Trust them...they know what they're doing.

by Aaron Novinger on May 24, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

yea, this is true ... except that IF Bright were to win the job, that would be better for our future

Holland has proven he’s not a huge work-out warrior. He’s had many 2nd chances to change that story. So I’d rather if we found a solution to Kosier that it was Bright.

Idea is this: if Kosier is our weakest link on the line, then a “best case” would have a new guy beating him out for the job.

Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly

by DalaiLuke on May 24, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

What is this facination with replacing our most consistaint O-lineman?

Kosier isn’t giving up sacks, the left side is the most productive side to run to on our offense. What is this idiocracy people have about replacing Kosier?

It’s Bigg and Gurode that can’t get a push in the short-yardage run game and are giving up too many sacks. Bright should be replacing Bigg, not Koser.

by Blue Eyed Devil on May 24, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

2008

Kosier went down missed all those games in ’08 and the O-line fell apart

by Antonio S on May 24, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not initially...

Holland came in and played well enough…until he got hurt. It fell apart when the Proctologist had to replace Holland.

Rabid and luvin' it

by lonewolfz28 on May 24, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

There's a comment here tonight that say's Kosier gave up more sacks than Gurode + Kosier

… and that passes my version of the eye test.

Truth is, we would do well to replace all the interior guys … in the next 2/3 years. I think Kosier is the weakest link, JMHO.

Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly

by DalaiLuke on May 24, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL ... Gurode + Davis

And … not merely a comment, but a reference to a writer that broke down every sack.

Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly

by DalaiLuke on May 24, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not according to KC Joyner

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on May 24, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be opposed to Kosier moving to backup G/C if Bright or Holland can beat him out.

I’m actually hoping Bright can be the replacement for Davis…hopefully soon rather than later. He’s big enough and strong enough. Time will tell on that one.

Rabid and luvin' it

by lonewolfz28 on May 24, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kosier was actually our best OL in pass protection last year

Maybe in the run game he’s a relative “weak link,” but you can’t knock him like that in pass protection.

People seem to evaluate him anecdotally instead of actually looking at performance.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on May 24, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that the perception of Kosier is relatively poor because

while he does play well against average and even above average DTs, he usually gets manhandled by the best DTs. As such, his physicality shortcomings tend to be more obvious to the average fan than a guy like Bigg whose mistakes are usually more mental (and therefore harder to see and hone in on) and don’t really concern his actual one on one physical ability.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on May 24, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed ..

When looking at “weakest link”, I believe Kosier is it. Not that he is horrible either, but the Boys can improve there.

Different WRs and RBs will be used, so I don’t put much stock in “starting” – I am more concerned about spreading the balls around and creating match up problems for defenses. Roy can really create match up problems against teams with smaller CBs. MBIII can bang against tough interior defenses. … I am just glad we have so many weapons.

by spadesking131313 on May 24, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

DLuke, thats 12

Drop Bennett or Ogletree depending if the team is operating out of the 2 TE.

by alanTdot. on May 24, 2010 11:09 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Damn, and just the other day I was sayin' how I could count past 47

The “11th” guy would be, in my look to the future:

Bennett / Ogletree / Sicko

Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly

by DalaiLuke on May 24, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Felix in the return game is just stupid

This is a guy who has demonstrated durability problems and you want him with his eyes pointed toward the sky with 10 guys steaming toawrd him with the intent to dismember him?

Stupid. Just…stupid.

Dallas needs to see (this year) if Felix can make it through 16 games without missing time.

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- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on May 24, 2010 9:12 AM CDT reply actions  

I agree with this. Give the job to a 4/5 wide receiver or Akwasi, not a starting RB.

Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly

by DalaiLuke on May 24, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

There's no way

he actually returns kicks in games. Maybe they are thinking in a must score scenario at the end of the game they may put him in as just a situational think similiar to Adrian Peterson or Ed Reed.

by TheAnsah on May 24, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Who has their starting RB fielding kicks? Not a good idea.

We’ve got plenty of options: Akwasi, Titus Ryan, even Dez Bryant if he doesn’t get a chance to start at WR this year.

There’s no need to have our starting RB fielding kicks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on May 24, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bryant should be active in the return game

even if he starts at WR. Although it is a different situation with Jones.

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on May 25, 2010 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

can't hide Felix Jones it is football

He was a monster in college returning, and injuries are a fact of life in Football.

by alanTdot. on May 24, 2010 11:11 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Felix wasn't that great at returning kicks last year anyways.

Rank…Name…….Avg
#25……Austin…….25.6
#76……F. Jones…21.8
#86……Ogletree…20.8

None of our returners were spectacular. Felix looked indecisive back there and spent more time going laterally than up the field. That’s why we brought in Rossum.

Time to give someone else a chance. Hopefully someone that is less fragile and more expendable.

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by lonewolfz28 on May 24, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

injuries ARE a fact of life in football, so why risk your star RB when other guys can do the job?

It’s pretty much guaranteed that the kick returner is going to get his clocked clean at least once or twice through the season. I’ll be wagering that every Cowboy fan would be holding their breath if that someone was Felix.

If it’s our #4 Ogletree, not so much… maybe even admiring the hit!

Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly

by DalaiLuke on May 24, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

MB3

is way underrated in my opinion. No, he doesn’t have the wow factor of Felix Jones, but he is good at everything (blocking, pass protection) and if healthy (big if) I think he can still be a monster closing out games. I’d like to see them move him back to the closing role and come in on passing downs to watch Romo’s backside.

by TheAnsah on May 24, 2010 10:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Worn down

We all said in 2006 that “if Marion keeps running like this he’s going to shorten his career”

Well, 4 years later we’re seeing the effects. Marion is slowed down, not as physical, and always battling injuries.

We will all love his highlight reel, but those halcyon days aren’t going to come back.

Barber is just worn down, it’s time for the fresh young legs that Choice and Felix have to replace the old war horse.

by Blue Eyed Devil on May 24, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought at the beginning of last year he(MBIII) had never looked faster. Early injuries derailed his season.

I do agree about his running style and battling injuries but I still think he is the one RB that has a skill set the other 2 dont have. I prefer the workhorse type back but this offense seems very diverse and multiple sets and multiple personel groups looking for the best match ups seems to be M O of this team. Based on the success we had and N.O. I think its here to stay a while.
I would like to see MBIII in the closure role. I want to see Felix most of the time but Choice getting some carries in to lessen the wear an tear on Felix seems smart. Our offense isnt gonna ride a RB until he gets hot or in a groove. NO proved yu can be diverse, but if you execute, still get everyone involved. I guess we will see. I think matchups week to week will determine how and who we attack with but at the end of the year I think the split BigD88 came up with will prove prophetic.(sp)

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on May 24, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

They may just have to go with more split-back formations.

I’ve read that they are featuring both Felix and MB3 in red zone situations during OTAs.

Trust them...they know what they're doing.

by Aaron Novinger on May 24, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you squid, MBIII still has young tread on those tires.

His style will wear him down faster than other backs, but some non-threatening injuries last year actually saved some of that tread! He was looking very good to start the year, and I expect to see at least another year or two of the same.

MBIII with a full-head of steam and too much adrenaline from waiting through the beginning of the game seem to be a perfect fit for the closer role he had with Jones. I like how we look at RB, in fact, I think the Cowboys rival any team in the league without a guy named Peterson or Johnson.

Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly

by DalaiLuke on May 24, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was looking at

some numbers. Compared Romo to Peyton Manning, and it was scary how similar their numbers were. I think it is conceivable that the Cowboys get 2 backs with 1,000 yards rushing each and a QB with 4,500 yards passing ….. possibly 2 WRs with 1,000 yards too. Just scary!!

by spadesking131313 on May 24, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not ready to throw dirt on Barber's career coffin just yet.

He still put up a nice average despite playing through injury for over half the season.

Until Felix can show he can make it through a season without missing games and Choice can show he’s not going to be a concussion magnet…I’ll stick with our three headed monster at RB. That is, unless we find a suitable replacement (Lonyae Miller?) for Barber. Main knock on Miller before the draft was his aversion to blocking. Maybe struggling to make the Practice Squad/Roster will open his eyes to the benefit of being a well rounded back. Time will tell on that one.

Rabid and luvin' it

by lonewolfz28 on May 24, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I love the way the Pats come out looking like a different team from game to game. They will come out in entirely different sets start diffent players and generally make gameplanning against them

an exercise in futility. I’d love to see Garrett utilize his weapons this way. Constantly tweaking and attacking the opposing teams weaknesses while dictating the pace of the game.

Don't believe everything you think.

Your causes are cute!!!

by stoproyce on May 24, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good effort

But the ink, sharpie, pencil, lead stuff got repetitive and, frankly, tiring.

by Eagles suck on May 24, 2010 12:02 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Thanks.

It’s called a theme.

Trust them...they know what they're doing.

by Aaron Novinger on May 24, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn't it T.O.

that made the sharpie tiring? Maybe he should have used some lead. Like they do on those stupid High School tests, and those #2 pencils. I heard the ink was dried out on Owens .. so he just improvised anyway. … But anyway, I thought the Bic line was funny.

by spadesking131313 on May 24, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Aaron, keep doin’ what you do … excellent stuff cranked out regularly.

I just read a quote went something like: If people don’t tell you you’re crazy or wrong, that’s when you start worrying… or something to that affect. With all the VRR and other content you crank out, I like seeing you do more of this stuff!

Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly

by DalaiLuke on May 24, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tired of insulting waiters or kicking your dog?

What a crappy thing to bring to the blog. I think it’s not just the Eagles…

FREE THE OGLETREE!!!

by dunkman on May 24, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone else worried about Austin Long term?

This has been nagging at me. I’m probably being paranoid. But I’ve got this tickling feeling that Austin won’t get the long term deal he’s seeking from us.

Yes, Jerry and the team are saying all the right things. Austin is saying all the right things. But he doesnt have a deal yet. ANd it doesnt appear one is coming soon.

When we drafted Dez, my first thought was, “OK, cool! We can now dump Roy and his ridiculous contract. He’s got no chemistry with Romo. Whereas Crayton is great in the slot and has been absolute money for us on 3rd downs and goal line. And he’s half the price of Roy.” But Roy isnt going anywhere. At least not this year, it seems. Crayton appears gone. Dez won’t be a slot guy for long. Roy doesnt seem to have the game for the slot. Does the team keep Austin, Roy, and Dez long term when all are really outside guys?

Do we cut Roy next year? Or does Dez learn for a year while Austin has a 1 year deal then moves into the starting line up next year when Austin goes elsewhere?

I hope I’m not being paranoid. I’d love to see us line up with Austin and a mature Dez outside creating havoc. But something about this situation is rubbing me the wrong way.

Am I the only one with this feeling?

by Ridgelake on May 24, 2010 2:34 PM CDT reply actions  

No, you are not alone

I have this fear that Jerry is not going to admit that Roy was a mistake, and that Austin will be playing someplace else while Roy plays out his contract

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by Seanrude on May 24, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

My thinking is though that if you are going to say that Jerry's ego is really that determining of a factor

than you also have to consider the fact that his ego is and has been greatly inflated by the fact that he was correct about Miles Austin. If you remember, Jerry was widely criticized for saying that Miles Austin was one of the main reasons that T.O was let go. I would be extremely surprised to see Jerry just let Miles go after he was validated in his praise of him.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on May 24, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope you are right

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by Seanrude on May 24, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

I think RW has a short leash. Miles is an essential piece to a Romo-friendly offense, Dez being another key ingredient. In no scenario do I see them letting go of a Pro Bowler for a shoulda-been. Not only would that make no W-L snese, it would make no business sense – Miles is already more popular than RW and another bad season by RW will not improve that situation.

FREE THE OGLETREE!!!

by dunkman on May 24, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

JJ’s attachment to Miles seemingly outweighs his desire to show that he was right about Roy.

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on May 25, 2010 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think its all related to if their is a salary cap next year and I think they would like to

do it midseason coming up to make sure he isnt a one hit wonder. If he starts where he finished he will be signed in Oct.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on May 24, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think Miles is exclusively an outside guy

He made some plays from the slot last season. If PC is indeed gone and Dez progresses well, you can count on 3 WR sets featuring Miles in the slot and Dez and Roy outside.

by Cowboysaficionado on May 24, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why don't you consider Bigg the weak link?

I’m just curious what the arguments are that Bigg had a better season than Kosier – Probowl voting aside.

by JimmyJohnson on May 24, 2010 3:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah

I sort of place them this way (from worst to not as bad):
Davis – error prone, inconsistent
Kosier – solid technican, able to be over-powered
Colombo – error prone, but mean and not as bad as Davis
Gurode – error prone, but strong
Free? – partly unknown, but stronger than Kosier and technically sound

FREE THE OGLETREE!!!

by dunkman on May 24, 2010 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

... and to think this is one of the better lines in the league :)

Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly

by DalaiLuke on May 25, 2010 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on May 25, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know if it's relevant whether Bigg had a better season than Kosier.

Just don’t see the Cowboys replacing Bigg with somebody else; whereas, it could go either way with Kosier.

Could you truly see the Cowboys coming out on Opening Day with Davis on the bench?

Trust them...they know what they're doing.

by Aaron Novinger on May 26, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think anyone is saying that Bigg will be benched

We’re saying that you are too quick to dismiss Kosier. Kyle’s spot should be pretty secure.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on May 28, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think he will be beaten out by anybody.

The line will most likely remain the same, except for Free. I just don’t see them taking the chance with two new guys on the left side. That’s a bit much, imo.

Trust them...they know what they're doing.

by Aaron Novinger on May 28, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

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