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Peeking into the Dallas Cowboys Film Room (Part III: Special Teams)

There is an old saying that states that the game of football is "one-third offense, one-third defense and one-third special teams." That may not be mathematically accurate, but since we've looked at the defense in Part I of our virtual look into the Cowboys' film room and examined the offense in Part II, we'll conclude the series with a look at special teams.

Special teams are an often under-appreciated part of a football team - yet many future starters began their careers on special teams. Being able to contribute on special teams may be the difference between making the 53-man roster and, well, not making it.

But special teams aren't just a proving ground for young talent, they're also a critical part of the overall battle for field position. Yet outside of the kicker and the returner, special teamers are virtually invisible, as are their stats, apart from return yards and the occasional tackle here and there.

That's why a look at special teams via game-tape based stats can be highly enlightening. Obviously, we do not have the grades the Cowboys handed out for special teamers, but we do have access to a data source that does a similar exercise for all NFL teams. In their own words: "Profootballfocus.com analyze and grade every player on every play in every game to provide you with the most in-depth statistics you can find anywhere outside the team's film room". After the jump we 'peek' into the Cowboys' film room using profootballfocus.com's data.

Star-divide

For those of you unfamiliar with the Profootballfocus.com (PFF) methodology, please refer to Part I of this series.

Note on the data: I've removed the penalties from the overall ratings as I felt they were weighted far too heavily in the overall score.

What you'll see for each player below is his rank relative to all other NFL players at that position, a "better than" number which tells you that the player ranks better than xx% of the players at his position in the league and his PFF ratings (overall score and a breakdown by specific areas).

Green is good (positive), yellow is about average and red is bad (negative). The higher the positive grading the better the performance and vice versa.

Special teamers:

Special teams have their own rules, and it's no different with the PFF numbers. From what I understand, all players who are not the kicker/punter or returner are only graded by PFF if they are directly involved in the action, e.g. if they make or miss a tackle or cause a penalty. This is due to the way the networks cover special teams: the cameras are only where the action is.

The ranking data below is limited to players who were graded in at least six games for their teams last season, as these would most likely be the core special team contributors, not just the occasional player helping out. This approach weeds out the one-hit-wonders on special teams, but it unfortunately also excludes core special teamers like Steve Octavian who just weren't involved in enough offensive or defensive plays.

This is the one area where there could be a world of difference between grades based on coaches tape and the PFF grades. So take these numbers for what they are: grades handed out for highlight plays on special teams, not grades handed out by the coaching staff for all snaps on special teams.

Position
Player NFL Rank Total Better Than Overall Rating Kickoffs Punts
S Alan Ball
24 213 89% 4.0 1.5 2.5
OLB Victor Butler 64 213 70% 2.5 2.5 0.0
WR Sam Hurd 88 213 59% 2.0 0.5 1.5
FB Deon Anderson 138 213 35% 1.0 0.5 0.5
CB Orlando Scandrick 138 213 35% 1.0 0.5 0.5
LB Bobby Carpenter 182 213 15% 0.0 0.0 1.5
S Pat Watkins 182 213 15% 0.0 2.0 -2.0
S Gerald Sensabaugh 182 213 15% 0.0 0.0 0.0

Within the limitations laid out above, here's what the data says: Dallas had three special teamers who stood out last season in Alan Ball, Victor Butler and Sam Hurd. Ball is likely to take over the safety spot vacated by Ken Hamlin, Victor Butler's place on the 53-man roster is virtually guaranteed based on his ST play and promising glimpses on defense. If Sam Hurd decides to stay, he would likely win out versus another equal receiver based on his ST play.

Steve Octavian and Curtis Johnson also rated above average, both with a 1.5 overall score, but they were 'only' graded in 3 and 2 games respectively.

At the bottom of the table, Bobby Carpenter did record 7 ST tackles but PFF did not judge these particularly distinguishing. Pat Watkins is credited with 6 missed tackles, more than any other of the 213 special teamers. The coaches will have to weigh Watkins' misses against the tackles he did make as well as Carpenter's overall impact, but purely based on the numbers, I would assume that the chances of either player making the 53-man roster are slim.

Kickers:

Position
Player NFL Rank Total Better Than Overall Rating Kickoffs Field Goals / Extra Points
K David Buehler 15 38 62% 8.4 8.4 - -
K Nick Folk 32 63 16% -2.1 -0.4 -1.7
K Shaun Suisham 33 63 14% -2.7 -2.6 -0.1

No surprises here. David Buehler was good at kickoffs but unfortunately not an option as the place kicker. Perhaps hiring Chris Boniol as a kicking consultant is paying early dividends, because the Cowboys have not been active on the kicker front. While Leigh Tiffin and Hunter Lawrence seem to have signed with Cleveland and Tampa respectively (hat tip to TexaninNYC and JoeyJoeJoeJr.Shabadoo for pointing that out ), there still are a lot of unsigned kickers out there, so in this case perhaps no news is good news.

Suisham's number's in the table above include his Washington numbers. In the end they were indicative of the performance that the Cowboys got from him, which was marginally better than Nick Folk's.

Punter:

Position
Player NFL Rank Total Better Than Punter Rating
P Matt McBriar 4 34 91% 17.5

After his season ending injury in 2008, Matt McBriar is back in fine form as one of the best punters in the game today. But let's not spend too much time here, I don't want to jinx the guy.

Returners:

Position
Player NFL Rank Total Better Than Overall Rating Kick Returns Punt Returns
WR Patrick Crayton
26 74 66% 1.9 0.0 1.9
RB Felix Jones 48 213 70% 0.0 0.0 0.0

If you're really honest, the Cowboys had an average return game at best. Yes, Crayton did return two punts for touchdowns, but there wasn't much else going on apart from that. To my untrained eye, Felix Jones for some reason seemed tentative on kickoff returns, perhaps because of his knee injury, and it shows in his numbers.

With Dez and Akwasi, the Cowboys now have arguably two of the best college return men on the team. We'll see if these numbers improve.

Summary and conclusion.

If we look at the totality of the player grades across offense, defense and ST, they do provide a fairly clear roadmap of the Dallas Cowboys' off-season moves so far. Granted, armed to the teeth with the benefit of hindsight, you can make any collection of stats look prophetic, and I'll be sure to review these numbers again at the end of next season and try to make a prediction that can actually be tested.

But since we're talking hypotheticals in the film room, let's assume I hypothetically went dumpster diving at Valley Ranch and found this partially torn, hypothetical off-season action plan:

Dc_plan_medium

Based on the game tape grades that we've looked at in all three posts, it would appear that there are only two open items left on the Cowboys' off-season action plan: Deciding what to do with Marcus Spears and getting more depth for the O-line. Both are likely to be addressed during or after training camp.

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1st to thank you...Good Job

I gotta feeling... That tonight's gonna be a good night,…..That tonight's gonna be a good night
That tonight's gonna be a good good night

Tonight's the night.....Let's live it up
We got our defence.....Let's dial it up
Go out and smash ‘em.....Like we did before
Jump on that scoreboard.....Let's kick it…. OFF

Black Eyed Peas

by jgoddard8409 on May 3, 2010 7:26 PM CDT reply actions  

I second that comment

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on May 4, 2010 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dammmm I gotta change my signature....that was the morning of the philly playoff win.....BAM

I gotta feeling... That tonight's gonna be a good night,…..That tonight's gonna be a good night
That tonight's gonna be a good good night

Tonight's the night.....Let's live it up
We got our defence.....Let's dial it up
Go out and smash ‘em.....Like we did before
Jump on that scoreboard.....Let's kick it…. OFF

Black Eyed Peas

by jgoddard8409 on May 3, 2010 7:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Well done OCC

I especially like the checklist. I totally agree with all these ratings, and I think they’re right with grading crayton relatively low as a punt returner. Aside from the qb ratings, and the ridiculously subjective OL ratings, PFF seems to have done a good job to me.

by foyesboys on May 3, 2010 7:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh, and BTW

OCC, they ait paying you enough….or are they at all??….LOL

I gotta feeling... That tonight's gonna be a good night,…..That tonight's gonna be a good night
That tonight's gonna be a good good night

Tonight's the night.....Let's live it up
We got our defence.....Let's dial it up
Go out and smash ‘em.....Like we did before
Jump on that scoreboard.....Let's kick it…. OFF

Black Eyed Peas

by jgoddard8409 on May 3, 2010 7:29 PM CDT reply actions  

seriously

my first thought was, you sure these guys work for free? unbelievable series

by freightgod on May 4, 2010 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Phenomenal Post

I love the torn to-do list….classic. Excellent work and great effort. I’m sure this will find it’s way into Valley Ranch as I understand they read this blog on a regular basis – at least one of the interns screens it. Good job.

"The Most Dangerous Man in the world is the one with nothing to lose"

by SaratogaRacing on May 3, 2010 7:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah I thought that was pretty sweet.

Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.

Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 3, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let me disagree with both of you

if the choice here was “Replica Torn Cowboys Action Plan” and “Hot Cheerleader Pictorial”, I’m going have to grade this effort a C-. I know that’s harsh considering the otherwise high-quality of work, but sometimes it takes this kind of tough love to get a person back to their senses…

FREE THE OGLETREE!!!

by dunkman on May 4, 2010 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

CHEERLEADERS! CHEERLEADERS! CHEERLEADERS!!!

Wait, maybe this would take away from their “legitimacy” claim?

Ah, screw press credentials!!!

CHEERLEADERS! CHEERLEADERS! CHEERLEADERS!!!

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by DalaiLuke on May 4, 2010 7:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ah Luke !

Priorities always in place.

by oldboysfan on May 4, 2010 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1 Love the offseason action plan, especially point 4. All other business

Nice way to wrap up a great series. Thanks, OCC.

"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin

by 24Hz on May 3, 2010 8:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Action Plan Priority

Obviously, the last item in your list should have the highest priority. Where else can Jerry, Wade, and Jason get trusted, well-thought-out, free advise but here on BTB? Media credentials would only improve an already great product!

by doomsdayreturns on May 3, 2010 8:03 PM CDT reply actions  

My guess is that Jerry and the Front Office guys were waiting for a legitimate fan site to emerge from the crowd.

If Goodell can do interviews with SBNation because they represent a legitimate fan-site, and BTB is far and away their flag-ship blogging site … well, it just stands to reason that Jerry’s just an imminent phone call away from reaching out to BTB!

This place has proven itself on many levels. The recent attention to the Cowboys Draft Board is merely one of many times BTB is ahead of the media. Take Grizz’s play-by-play from Training Camp. The media is already copying parts of this. Raf’s articles BLOW AWAY almost anything I read on DC.com. Add O.Cool’s statistical analysis and the regular stream of reader comments … what’s not to like?

Jerry, the to-do list is almost complete. Do the right thing! Better late than never!

Try not to get into a pissing match with a skunk :)

by DalaiLuke on May 4, 2010 7:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Unless...

Jerry is a little miffed about his precious draft board getting exposed here. That could give other teams a little insight into their thinking/scouting that could be a tactical advantage down the road.

J/K

LOL

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by lonewolfz28 on May 4, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kicker will be interesting to watch.

Lawrence signed with Tampa a week ago, and Tiffin got an invite to Cleveland’s camp. Neither may stick, but they are with teams.

"Only the strong survive, but the strong still get their ass whipped." -Nick Saban

by TexaninNYC on May 3, 2010 8:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Felix did seem tentative

not sure if it was the knee or what, but with his (hopeful) increase in plays it seems like he won’t be back there, especially with other guys more than capable – AOA, Bryant, Olgetree, I’d be happy to see them back there. I just want somebody who will get it and go right away, just takeoff, no dancing around

by - Adrian - on May 3, 2010 9:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Love the last item on the checklist lol, hope they get to that one!

I’m kind of surprised Watkins didn’t grade out higher, I’ve heard that Joe D values him as one of his best ST players.

I’m also a bit surprised Buehler didn’t grade out even a bit higher, but still nothing to complain about there.

by scottmaui on May 3, 2010 9:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Not all of Watkins missed tackles were necessarily a bad thing.

Not sure how the grades are worked out, but if they automatically deduct for a missed tackle, then Watkins’ grade may be off. When he flies in and forces a runner to alter course considerably to avoid a tackle, that often delays the return and/or sets up the rest of the team to pounce. But like O.Cool said, it’s not easy to make assessments of special teams from a TV feed.

Try not to get into a pissing match with a skunk :)

by DalaiLuke on May 4, 2010 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Watkins’ missed tackles could just have easily been the result of an outstanding effort to get to the returner first, and may just be a result of a high risk/high reward approach.

Similarly, Carpenter may have been shadowing Watkins, but 10 yards behind behind him, so when Watkins missed, Bobby was there to cover. Who knows? I certainly don’t.

by One.Cool.Customer on May 4, 2010 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

You know as well as anyone that stats are an in-exact science in football

While stats rule the baseball world, they often don’t tell the whole story in football. PFF does an amazing amount of work gather and organizing their numbers, but in the end you need to also include the “eye test” etc… as you always mention.

Nonetheless, you know we all luv this stuff … if only for the debate about how we don’t like it!

Try not to get into a pissing match with a skunk :)

by DalaiLuke on May 4, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good read

Lee will give Bobby the boot. Folks that second guess his selection won’t after they see this kid on the field. I think Watkins is also gone. Keep an eye on Barry Church (un-drafted) S from Toledo. I think he has a chace to make this team. Very solid ST player. If the D stays health & Scandrick improves then we will be set. FS is still a concern but it looks like Wade & Campo have some faith in Ball. OL depth also a concern but I am hoping one of the young OL guys steps up. I have hope for this guy – http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/team_biosPlayers.cfm?playerID=216946FF-95B1-D294-28410AED4E97B2BE

by tyler2 on May 3, 2010 10:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Tiffin and Lawrence have both signed

Lawrence to Tampa, Tiffin to Cleveland. We’ll see if they stick.

by JoeyJoeJoeJr.Shabadoo on May 3, 2010 11:00 PM CDT reply actions  

PFF missed out on evaluating

Long Snapper and Holder. Speaking of holder, will Kitna learn the position this year and put down the clipboard or will Romo continue holding? And I’m serious, this post is no joke.

by starmesh23 on May 3, 2010 11:03 PM CDT reply actions  

We may have a new long snapper anyways.

Scott Sicko has been performing that task during the rookie camp. He did it in college too. That would help get more value out of a roster spot if he can do it in games.

Rabid and luvin' it

by lonewolfz28 on May 4, 2010 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

It will be hard to beat out LP.

I can’t remember one bad snap in a game by him. He’s been solid since Jeff Robinson left. I think long snapper is the only position where if you’ve never heard of the guy that means he’s good.

by starmesh23 on May 4, 2010 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

He also seems to be

about 20 lbs light for that role at this point. I seem to recall most long-snappers going about 270.

FREE THE OGLETREE!!!

by dunkman on May 4, 2010 7:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hahaha

I loved the dumpster diving note! I hope you guys do get credentialed

by Blue Eyed Devil on May 3, 2010 11:51 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Pat Watkins makes this team.

He is a useful player on special teams. (At this point insert statement regarding distrust of PFFs rankings and an example here…I think the horse’s corpse has been ground into paste by this point) And he can back up both safety positions (albeit poorly). I don’t think they get rid of him this year.

by Arson55 on May 4, 2010 1:10 AM CDT reply actions  

LOL
Get an effing Kicker – And to this I would add…Don’t use your Starting Quarterback as a freakin’ holder

OCC, I know you said penalties weighted too heavily, but as part of the process I think a separate listing of total penalties and penalty yards, and where that ranks the Boys in the NFL would be meaningful. Also, how many explosive plays were called back for penalties. I seem to remember a couple.

When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.

by White Wolf on May 4, 2010 5:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Good idea. Still got a long offseason ahead of us, I might look that up.

by One.Cool.Customer on May 4, 2010 5:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wade's action plan should read

Starting QB is holder – Note to self – Self, get brain examined.

When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.

by White Wolf on May 4, 2010 6:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not really....

I have never seen a holder get hurt. As a matter of fact I would use that to run more fakes. Romo is a good passer and a helluva a runner if you ask me.

by ManTab on May 4, 2010 7:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

So you think Romo should be the holder?

Note to self – Self, add ManTab to the list for head examinations. You have got to be kidding. The coaching staff should be ashamed of themselves for having a roster full of players, and the their Star QB is the best they could come up with for a holder? To start, I was horsing around, then to come back with a serious reply, and to actually believe Romo should be the holder? I guess you really would start Roy at LT.

When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.

by White Wolf on May 4, 2010 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bring in Stanback to hold

He would be effective on fakes…

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on May 4, 2010 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I guess you really would start Roy at LT.

Why not? It would play to Roy’s strengths

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by Seanrude on May 4, 2010 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure this will be addressed.

But if they stick with Romo, it’s for the reasons ManTab states below.

Try not to get into a pissing match with a skunk :)

by DalaiLuke on May 4, 2010 7:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

(well, it was below when I was typing! :)

Try not to get into a pissing match with a skunk :)

by DalaiLuke on May 4, 2010 7:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yea, I'm bored and this is off-topic (by the way, great post O.Cool, despite the lack of Cheerleaders :)

Did anyone else notice how small the ball looks approaching Dez’s hands? Look at the picture to intro Aaron’s Sunday Poll Article

Try not to get into a pissing match with a skunk :)

by DalaiLuke on May 4, 2010 7:42 AM CDT reply actions  

It's true

Dez has freakin gigantic mitts

by Cknbonenowison on May 4, 2010 8:08 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah...

Raf was talking about that the other day, Bryant does have massive hands.

Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.

Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 4, 2010 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I remember the day

when that used to mean something completely different….

FREE THE OGLETREE!!!

by dunkman on May 4, 2010 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

BTB definitely needs media credentials for training camp...

Can Mike Fisher not make that happen for you guys? He has connections.

by Damnsammit on May 4, 2010 9:57 AM CDT reply actions  

At this point, the only reason I can possibly see for it not happening is some SERIOUSLY lobbying by the local papers

… and that would be lobbying AGAINST the very Cowboys fans they will tell you they love

Try not to get into a pissing match with a skunk :)

by DalaiLuke on May 4, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

OCC, the ultimate stat man

makes me bow in awe. Everytime I read one of your articles it’s like going to a college class about The Boys and NFL football. Another great article!

Roger Staubach was the original Captain Comeback......alas, I am but a Cheap Imitation.
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by CapnComebackII on May 4, 2010 10:28 AM CDT reply actions  

for crissake....

OCC reposted stats from PFF. And he split it into 3 parts.

woohoo….

by blee on May 4, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

That wasn't too rude.

Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.

Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 4, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

You have permission to take off.

When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.

by White Wolf on May 4, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I suggest fiber

it’ll fix ya’ right up…

FREE THE OGLETREE!!!

by dunkman on May 4, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

And yet Nick Eatman will swear up and down

That Pat Watkins is the best punt coverage gunner in the league. Turns out he’s below average.

/facepalm

That’s why this place is so much better than anywhere else for Cowboys content. DC.com is great, but pretty much every writer over there forms an opinion about each player based on who knows what, then acts as if their opinion is law without ever taking the time to see if what they’re saying is right. It’s like when they say “Terence Newman is a top 10 CB in this league.” I’m sorry, I’ve come around a little bit on T-New lately, but he is surely not a top 10 CB. Yet anytime anyone tries to bring some solid evidence against this or any other assumption they make, they just scoff at them.

Again, this place rules. Thanks for all the work, OCC.

by Key19 on May 4, 2010 11:06 AM CDT reply actions  

PFF isn't gospel
Turns out he’s below average.

No, turns out PFF’s grading system rates him below average. They also rate Romo as teh 15th best QB in the league, but surely you don’t agree with that.

And you say that the writers on DC.com form opinions on “who knows what”, well I would suggest that they probably form their opinions from watching Training Camp, Games, Practices and Interviews with coaching staff and players. BTB is great, but you make the DC.com guys sound like ignorant hacks.

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on May 4, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

DC.com

is about towing the Cowboys line.

BTB is the best independent Cowboys coverage media I can find. Better than any of the papers, I love it.

by Blue Eyed Devil on May 5, 2010 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone see sportscenter last night

Espn obtaining a background check on dez’s mom and then dumb a mike greenberg just
smearing her all over sc only because she defended herself and dez on fanhouse.com. That is so effen weak, i don’t even know what to say…….except maybe that I’m done with espn

by Cknbonenowison on May 4, 2010 11:25 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

i was done with espn a long time ago

but i still watch it because it’s the only sport on! lol

by scottmaui on May 4, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

I haven’t listened to that show in a couple of years now. Just too E! for me.

FREE THE OGLETREE!!!

by dunkman on May 4, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

NFL Network’s Total Access is where it’s at

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on May 4, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

And on radio

Sirius’ NFL channel

FREE THE OGLETREE!!!

by dunkman on May 4, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

NFL Network

Is all I watch during football season.

I love Deion Sanders giving me the top-10 plays of the weekend. :-)

by Blue Eyed Devil on May 5, 2010 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I Can't Stand ESPN

I’m in my 20s so maybe I’m too young to really understand ESPN from when it was incrediby different and unique back in the 1980s and have all that nostaliga about it.

But they’re terrible and reduce everything to platitudes. ESPN is the lowest common denominator sports coverage.

Barely any of their hostsknows anything about a single NFL team. Instead they just know a little about every team in sports and fill in the gaping holes with simple platitiudes. Oh, Leonard Davis and Andre Gurode are voted to the pro bowl in a fan popularity contest? They must be the best interior linemen in the league!

Then there’s the E! entertainment news factor where they’re the douchebags blaming a lost Cowboys game on Jessica Simpson or sending Ed Werder in to make shtuff up about players.

And don’t get me started on a mind blowing catch or an insane MMA knockout getting #9 on their top 10 while a garden-variety, happens-every-day basketball shot is #1.

There’s nothing I like about their sports coverage.

by Blue Eyed Devil on May 5, 2010 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

... you'll find a LOT of agreement around here

Try not to get into a pissing match with a skunk :)

by DalaiLuke on May 5, 2010 1:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I Understand

When ESPN first came out it was a one of a kind product. Especially if you wanted sports news for a non-local team. Initially they only reported on games and other sports news. I think they really changed for the worse as they had more competition from other networks and the internet.

by staubachfan on May 5, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that Watkins

has so many missed tackles beacause he is usually the first guy down there especially on punts and it makes iit much harder to make the tackle but he is effective in disrupting the first move by the punt returner. He is my favorite special teams player.

by Bob Hine on May 4, 2010 4:36 PM CDT reply actions  

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