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Defenive Packages: For the Cowboys, is about more than just 11 starters

We have heard it all, for example, the Cowboys like to Draft backups. But, is there something wrong with the team perspective or what? Some would like to argue that yes, there is something wrong with it, but things aren't that simple, and especially with a Defense as versatile as the one that Wade leads.

Some time ago I made a post talking about the versatility of the Cowboys packages and this is another one that takes into consideration some of the things that I saw last year.

The Nickel and Dime.

The Cowboys run a 3-4 base package, but it's a 3-4 that looks a lot like the 3-4 that Bill Belichick used to run on his way to his team Super Bowl titles, a defense that will change depending on the offensive packages in front of them, from the base 3-4, to pass rushing 42s, 41s or 33s.

But, the guys in the base package are enough to make all those change-ups work?

No. Terence Newman is the player with the highest number of defensive snaps with 1127 (he wasn't in for every snap, he missed some, so the real number should be closer to 1150), followed closely by Anthony Spencer (1112) and Demarcus Ware (1093 - neck injury). Those are starters, duh.

But,  Igor Olshansky and Marcus Spears started every game and only accumulated 648 and 535 snaps, while a backup player like Orlando Scandrick, the 3rd string CB, accumulated 640 snaps. And he's just an example, I'll list the most important backups:

Meanwhile, a starter and one of the team best players, Jay Ratliff, played in 851. Up from the 694 that he played in the previous year. What's the difference? For one, Tank Johnson had a bit of more potential, and in another hand, that team had Greg Ellis and Anthony Spencer in the OLB positions, so the team could play more 4 and 5 man fronts than the 2009 lineup without missing a beat.

 

The schemes:

I saw two main variations of the Nickel schemes and both included a lot of movement before the snap. The first one would be the classic 42 scheme with 4 down lineman, 2 coverage LBs with gap responsabilities (blitz or run support), 3 CBs and 2 Safeties (either both deep or with one deep and the other covering a TE).

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The second Nickel package would look like a 33 package in the first impression but before the snap would have either one or both OLBs in a standing position at the edges of the OLine, giving the impression of a 42 or 51. Most of the sacks when the rusher reached the QB without being touched came from this package. OLineman had real troubles adjusting to the changes. In these scheme the lone ILB and the NT are supposed to be in the same page, the NT is still a one gapper, but he's supposed to attack his designed gap at the last moment, while the ILB has to change his responsability for the other gap.

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And the third alternate package is the dime, which is a 41 package with 2 CBs and 2 Safeties in cover-4, and 2 CBs that take shorter routes (which tend to be the guys inside, Scandrick and Newman were usually the guys inside, while Jenkins and Ball took the outside receivers with deep help).

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What do I think that they think about the 2010 season?

I can't help but notice that the Nickel CB played in more snaps than any of the other usual suspects in these packages and I also can't help but look at guys that aren't perfect fits for this kind of packages, so I'll give this a deeper look:

  • Keith Brooking: The guy looks like a Wade's ILB, the guy is always on the move, even when he's reading the play, he's smart and he knows where he's supposed to be when dropping in zone coverage. But the guy isn't young anymore, he isn't fluid in his change of directions and his top gear leaves a lot to be desired.
  • Bradie James: Bill Parcells is known for making robots out of some of his players, Bradie James is one of them. From time to time he's going to give the impression that he's still playing in a Parcells scheme, as in wait-wait-read-react. Look at Brooking, he's move-move-read-attack. After year 3 in Wade's tenure James is still an average fit and he isn't getting any younger.
  • Bobby Carpenter: You can't play scared. That's a line that the coaches would usually yell at Bobby. From time to time, a player like Newman would be forced to clean up his mess and a veteran like him was more than willing to give him a longer than desired stare mixed in with some words. He's another guy that would wait-wait-read-react, but for wronger reasons...

The thing is, how can you use more of these packages when you don't have complete trust in the ILBs? I can see that Wade wants to develop his ILBs and he's going to use them.

And how do you give Ratliff some more rest? I know, Sean Lissemore is looked like a Ratliff starter kit and that's the main thing, Ratliff wasn't a NT or DE in his rookie year, not even in his 2nd year. The guy was a pass rushing DT in 4 man fronts. I remember seeing him lining up right next to La'Roi Glover and Chris Canty. And Tank Johnson was used in pretty much the same way, I can't remember seeing him in a straight up 3 man front...

I'm thinking that the number of snaps for some of the starters will continue to drop closer to 50% and some of the backups will play their half, it's all about keeping Offensive Coordinator guessing, it's all about using your player right and where they fit.

 

BTW.

Last season I couldn't see the 46 scheme or the Cowboys package as those were used in the 2008 season, with the development of the 2 second year OLBs (Victor Butler and Brandon Bennett) and the younger and more athlethic ILBs you should expect a return of those packages.

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Barbie will not be missed..

how many times have we saw Barbie break through the OLine only to miss the QB..like that one time Sheli stiff arm him…

by LiLGiT on May 9, 2010 4:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Not to mention his fail...

while shadowing McNabb that led to a TD in the 1st Eagles game:

Look at the play at minute 2:16. He’s slow to pass off Jackson to Brady James and Ken Hamlin and react to McNabb’s roll out. Then he takes a bad angle and winds up behind McNabb allowing him to complete the TD to Celek.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/dallas-cowboys/09000d5d8140d6e0/NFL-GameDay-Cowboys-vs-Eagles-highlights

Rabid and luvin' it

by lonewolfz28 on May 9, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I Recall the Carp Apologists

defending him on this play . . . offering up all kinds of excuses why Carp did nothing wrong. Carp was an enigma wapped in a body that looked like a football player.

by Iowacowboy on May 13, 2010 6:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

I defended him once

From a guy that said that Kevin Burnett was a much better player and how getting rid of him and playing Carpenter was a big mistake…

That’s a big mistake, they were both poor ILBs (I just don’t know which was the poorest, they made too much mistakes to make a proper decision) and you should always look for better level of play.

Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!

by Chandus on May 13, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice Churchill qoute:
It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.

by One.Cool.Customer on May 15, 2010 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rec and good stuff.

Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.

Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 9, 2010 5:48 PM CDT reply actions  

I missed the 46

We played really well in it a few years back and hope to see it make a comeback. Also this was a great read and pretty much, its front page material, rec’d. I would like to see them use a front that was only used in training camp w/ 2 down DL and the rest of the front standing and moving around…what did Raf call it?? I can’t remember but I loved hearing about it

by nicholas.rodriguez on May 9, 2010 6:18 PM CDT reply actions  

+1 on all your points

great write up and i’ve been waiting to see the two packages you spoke of.

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by KD Drummond on May 9, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

o, and rec'd

2009 BTB Part Deux Fantasy League Champion. 'Kill Everybody 13-2'. KDP knows football.

by KD Drummond on May 9, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anybody hear if they've actually...

banned the 3-point stance, are still considering doing so or decided against it? All I can find are the stories from mid-February saying that Goodall was considering it, but nothing since.

That could have an impact on how defenses line up as well. The 3-4 defenses would already be at a slight advantage due to the overall larger size of their interior three. Although, it might hurt us more if JRat can’t fire off like he’s used to.

Rabid and luvin' it

by lonewolfz28 on May 9, 2010 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

i missed too

i love when defense has a lot of look which keep guessing, i’m pretty sure kevin kolb will have no idea of what to do if he looks a 46

by ratware on May 10, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't let Blings see this
But, Igor Olshansky and Marcus Spears started every game and only accumulated 648 and 535 snaps, while a backup player like Orlando Scandrick, the 3rd string CB, accumulated 640 snaps. And he’s just an example, I’ll list the most important backups:

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on May 9, 2010 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

1,183 snaps between them and 4 sacks total

They should have been in the pro bowl!!!

"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on May 9, 2010 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or maybe it just shows

that you are seriously misguided when you claim that drafting “starters” is the be-all-and-end-all.

But, you know, ridiculous hyperbole is another alternative.

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on May 9, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's kind of what I was thinking.

5 your my boy, but you are the one who has been ultimately evaluating players by being a “starter”.

Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.

Also anyone who ever refers to Dez Bryant as a Dez Dispenser owes me a dollar.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on May 9, 2010 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look, I've never been against figuring out what the definition of a "contributor" is...

and including it in some sort of analysis.

But no one is going to tell me that it is just as objective as looking at who’s #1 on the depth chart for the 22 offensive and defensive players who start. The main reason for that is because it isn’t.

The comments above only serve to bolster my point.

BTW, what is so earth-shattering about the idea that D-linemen play in a rotation while CB’s don’t? Was that an “ah-ha!” moment?

"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on May 9, 2010 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

The subject here isn't the rotation

It’s just that the team 3rd CB played as many or more snaps than the 2 starters at DE and roughly 55% of the defensive snaps.

Should that be taken as meaning that Wade would like to play more Nickel and Dime players in the future reducing even more the snaps of the starters?

That’s the subject here.

Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!

by Chandus on May 10, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't that determined by how many 3 WR sets Dallas faces more than anything it wants to do?

"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on May 10, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Partially

It also has to do with TEs and how you need LBs with wheels. Obviously, the teams in the current age of passing Offenses need to adapt their Defenses for the matchups that they’re going to face, but they can do it in many possible ways, for example, the Colts’ changes in their Defense are kept to a minimum and most of their starters are kept in there, they have backups rotating, yeah, but it isn’t as if they’re doing something schematically different.

Wade likes to make more changes, if he has the horses to make it work.

Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!

by Chandus on May 10, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

But we don't have any way to defend a 3 or 4 WR set without more CB's, right?

"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on May 10, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

But why does he also like to change the fronts from uneven (3) to even (4) and maybe to uneven again (5).

That has a lot to do with what Wade likes to do.

Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!

by Chandus on May 10, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's not alone in that regard

Most 3-4 gurus choose that style because of the flexibility it offers and how it allows them to confuse QB’s.

Capers does it.

LeBeau does it.

Rivera does it.

Bellicheat does it.

"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on May 10, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice write-up, rec'd. Question about the Cowboy 46

Do we have the personal to run a 46 w/o making a lot of subs? My understanding is the great, penetrating, down lineman were the biggest reason for Bear’s success with that scheme, and that would seem a real weakness for us. Also, that the 46 was most impactful on running plays (not as a nickle substitute) because it put too many men in the box to run against. It disrupted offenses and forced them to call passing audibles…often leading to blown assignments and sacks/turnovers.

Sure would love to see both Demarcus and Spencer lined up outside the same end though…whatever happened it would be happen quick.

by Left Coast Cowboy on May 11, 2010 7:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I think that we didn’t saw the 46 this year because of Ellis and James, Ellis found his way out of the roster and James was bellow his 2008 form.

But the team should have the personnel to use the scheme this coming year, the 2 2nd year OLBs should be stronger and readier to play the pass and run, the team has 2 athlethic and young ILBs, a combination of Ratliff, Bowen and Hatcher can provide more than enough disruption as down lineman (they did in 2008) and the team should have good coverage from the Safeties and CBs.

BTW, in 2008 the scheme was used mostly as a pass rushing scheme and work wonderfully well, most of the sacks of Ratliff and James came from playing in the scheme. It’s when teams ran against the scheme that things didn’t look as good…

Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!

by Chandus on May 12, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm late reading this (as usual)

but another excellent, well-thought out article, Chandus. I always like reading your articles, Bro.

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by CapnComebackII on May 12, 2010 9:13 AM CDT reply actions  

Very good post

By the end I felt like I was reading a hybrid post from Rafael and OCC. I have read a few of your post in the past, but will make it a point read them all in the future.

Keep up the good work and I’ll buy the XX next time.

Woodson is a Hall of Famer!!!

by I'm a Cowboy on May 16, 2010 8:28 AM CDT reply actions  

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