Beasts Of The East: Catching Up With The Eagles
by Dave Halprin on Jun 30, 2010 2:00 PM CDT
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I recently exchanged questions with Bleed Green, a Philadelphia Eagles blog. Here's what they had to say about the 2010 season for the Eagles.
BTB: Big changes for the Eagles this offseason. Let's start with the obvious - Was it a good idea to move Donovan McNabb? How do you feel about him going to a division rival?
BG: Initially, I was very shocked and saddened by the move, being a longtime McNabb supporter, and especially because he was sent to a rival in the Redskins. However, my perspective has altered a bit since that Easter Sunday trade; researching Kolb and realizing that he really does have a lot of potential and talent has made me okay with the move, and as long as he executes, the offense should be explosive as usual.
BTB: Another big move is the release of Brian Westbrook, a Cowboys killer. Again, a good move?
BG: Like the trade of McNabb, the release of Westbrook hit me with a wave of shock (even though he was bound to depart soon anyway, with injuries and age taking a toll). Nonetheless, the team has filled the running back spot sufficiently, replacing B-West in the lineup with the young, shifty LeSean McCoy. Former Saints runner Mike Bell was also added, in addition to LSU product Charles Scott, via the 6th-round of the Draft.
BTB: Is Kevin Kolb ready to take over? Tell us about his game and how he differs from McNabb.
BG: The one thing that stands out between Kolb and McNabb is consistent accuracy. Many have pointed out that the latter was unable to complete simple passes and was too often misfiring targets, while Kolb seems to have shown he can connect with receivers on a more constant basis. Obviously, McNabb has one of the league's strongest arms and was able to provide the team with many big pass plays, something Kolb might not be able to do as often, but there's still enough talent around the new starter for him to have success.
BTB: How did the Eagles draft go in your opinion? Any player you're particularly excited about? Any steals?
BG: Honestly, this may have been one of the Eagles' best and deepest Drafts in recent memory. Not only did they lock up surefire starters in DE Brandon Graham and FS Nate Allen, but they also managed to solidify their defensive corps with a number of high-potential players, such as hybrid linebacker Ricky Sapp (who was snagged in the 5th-round but received many 2nd-round grades). The team got a total of 13 players in the Draft this year, and almost all have enough upside to have immediate impacts with the Eagles. As for steals, Sapp undoubtedly fits the bill, but Philly also got another in LB Jamar Chaney, taken in the 6th-round but with serious potential for the pro level.
BTB: Will Michael Vick have a bigger role this year in the offense? Is even a threat to become the starter?
BG: All indications are that Vick will indeed receive a larger role this season, especially to help with the development of Kolb as the starter, but there's an extremely small chance that the former Falcon will actually get a shot to start. Unless Kolb is seriously injured, don't count on seeing Vick in the No. 1 role.
BTB: With all the changes, where do you think the Eagles will end up in the NFC East at the end of the year? Are they still a playoff team?
BG: As long as the new pieces can execute and mold by opening day, I can definitely picture the Eagles making a run for a Wild Card spot as the second place squad in the East, simply because they have a tough schedule and the Cowboys are very well stocked with experience. If the new starters and additions are unable to develop as planned, a third or fourth place finish isn't out of the question.
Thanks to Bleed Green for the 411 on the Eagles.
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BG: As long as the new pieces can execute and mold by opening day, I can definitely picture the Eagles making a run for a Wild Card spot as the second place squad in the East, simply because they have a tough schedule and the Cowboys are very well stocked with experience. If the new starters and additions are unable to develop as planned, a third or fourth place finish isn’t out of the question.
I love people who aren’t homers and can speak truthfully about their team.
Props to Bleed Green!
Yeah, but ...
This answer was fairly objective, but many of the other answers felt very PC to me. They were safe.
I understand taking the perspective that Kolb can be good, Westbrook was on his way out due to age/injuries, etc. … but these are major, major changes to a team’s identity, and the answers to the questions feel very surface-level, non-descript.
Thank you for the article DH, but I don’t feel that Bleed Green’s answers gave us any depth. In all fairness, that may be because BG hasn’t had a training camp to observe the real changes yet, and can only base his analysis on the limitations of OTAs, (just as assessing where the Cowboys are at T and S based just on OTAs would be foollish).
I do agree with BG’s comments that the Iggles had a deep and productive draft. They do have some young pieces that can be helpful, but a lot of their youth (prior to this draft, which cannot yet be assessed), is at the skill position, (i.e., players like McCoy, Jackson, etc).
What we didn’t hear about was how the defense is going to adjust at safety after the loss of Jackson and last year’s failings (and departure of Dawkins). Come to think of it, a lot of leadership on this team, in the form of McNabb, Dawkins, and Westbrook, has been lost. How will the team adjust. How’s the MLB position looking? Is Reid going to change schemes based upon his personnel? Will he continue to be as aggressive on defense given the secondary’s struggles last season? Also, Kolb faces a lot of pressure this season, and Reid must be held accountable for the limitations this team has faced recently.
I think I would have liked to hear more depth analysis from BG.
coming off of a beastly injury
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Kolb will struggle this year
But I do agree that they had a very strong draft. I really liked (and was jealous of) the Nate Allen pick where they got him. Wanted him in Dallas. The Sapp pick was nice as was Chaney and WR Riley Cooper who could turn out to be a nice possession receiver. I think their top pick DE Brandon Graham could bust, however.
Seems to me like a strong draft too
but I don’t think the worst pro team in the league could get “immediate impact” out of “almost all” of thirteen new players.
disagree with the assessment of their draft
they needed OL, corner depth, a pass rusher and an LB that could tackle.
I think after it shakes out, Allen will be an All pro and that’s about it.
I watched most of Grahams games last year. He doesn’t look like he has ‘it’. Chaney got drafted low because he’s slow. The tweener from OU won’t make their squad.
For as much as the Blogger formally known as Bye Dawk :( derided our 09 draft for not taking an OL, their biggest weakness will be their OL. But, then again, the DBs are pretty bad, too.
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
Graham has "it." Trust me on that.
However, I don’t think he is going to be some massive sack guy. I see him much more like a consistent 7-9 sack guy who can stop the run extremely well against most tackles (you could debate if that’s worth the 13th pick). On the other hand, I am nowhere near as high on Nate Allen. I think he is certainly a smart player and has nice size but I think he lacks that real playmaker instinct to be an All Pro of any sorts. He could certainly be an upgrade over what they have now but I don’t think it is out of the question for him to have a Ken Hamlin type career path.
The rest of the draft for them was a little eclectic for my tastes. They got some decent value but they seemed intent on keeping with their current defensive design (undersized DE from Washington and a project LB in Sapp) and I think will serve them poorer than anticipated (at least against us). The one late guy I think does have potential for them is CB Trevard Lindley. He isn’t a great athlete but he does have pretty good instincts by most accounts and could be in the mix to see time this year on the nickel and dime.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jun 30, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I base my judgement on Graham off of watching most of the games in his collegiate career
and watching him get constantly double teamed and still make plays. He honestly was the only threat on Michigan’s defense for the last two years. If he went to a 3-4 team I think he would be a very similar player to Lamar Woodley for Pittsburgh who started ahead of him for a year or two I think.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jun 30, 2010 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Pass rusher – Drafted Graham in the 1st, Daniel Te’o Nesheim in the 3rd, Ricky Sapp in the 5th, and also traded for Darryl Tapp.
A “LB that can tackle” – Getting Stewart Bradley back, traded for Ernie Sims and Alex Hall, drafted linebackers Keenan Clayton and Jamar Chaney.
Corner depth – Getting Ellis Hobbs back, drafted Trevard Lindley.
OL depth – Although they didn’t draft any this year, they drafted an Aaron Novinger favorite, Fenuki Tupou last year, and then IR’d (redshirted) him with a bruised fingernail.
As for your assessment of Graham, he’s perhaps as unlikely a bust as you’ll find. He started at a major D1 college for 4 years – With that kind of experience, there’s no hiding any deficiencies when there’s that much tape on you. The Eagles pretty much know exactly what they’re getting.
And I’m just not seeing this perceived weakness at OL. I’ll grant that I have concerns at the C position and whether or not Jamaal Jackson will be good to go or not, bit what else is there that’s a “big weakness,” as you say?
Couldn’t be happier with our draft, quite frankly. They had 13 picks in what Charley Casserly called the deepest draft since 1983, and filled a slew of aging positions.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
by JimmyK on Jul 1, 2010 5:53 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
CB depth fail
Ellis Hobbs is back, wow. You better hope the front seven can get pressure this year, I’m just saying.
Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Felix Jones = defensive coordinator's Kobayashi Maru scenario
Is Ellis Hobbs a great corner? Of course not. Did he start for a Super Bowl winning team? He sure did.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
Yeah he did but you should understand that he played for a Patriots team
that surrounded him with great pieces. I don’t think that he alone is that great of a player.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
Logic Fail
David Tyree made THE Catch II or III whatever. Why dont the Eagles make a play for him if you insist on having super bowl winners on your team.
Really?! Really?!
Comprehension Fail
Ellis Hobbs started for the Pats. Am I calling him a stud? No. Am I saying the Eagles traded for him merely because he played on a championship team? No. I’m just saying that he wasn’t so bad that he was a hindrance to the Pats winning a title. As Cowboyfan729 said above…
Yeah he did but you should understand that he played for a Patriots team that surrounded him with great pieces. I don’t think that he alone is that great of a player.
And I agree. But if the biggest hole on our team started for a champion, that’s not so bad.
And what was Tyree to the Giants? Their 5th WR?
Do me a favor – Don’t guess my logic.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
I guess you missed the relation
Ellis Hobbs and company are the reason the Giants won that Superbowl.
I just find it funny that your justification of Hobbs being good is that he started on a super bowl team. Esp. a patriots team where everyone knows its the system that makes avg players seem great. Name a player to have success on the patriots to have the same and better on another team
Really?! Really?!
Ellis Hobbs and company are the reason the Giants won that Superbowl.
Why, because Belichick left Hobbs one on one on a WR that’s 9 inches taller than him on the winning TD? That’s just stupid.
I just find it funny that your justification of Hobbs being good is that he started on a super bowl team.
Not what I’m saying, but whatever.
Name a player to have success on the patriots to have the same and better on another team
I’m no expert on player the Pats have let go in the past, but there’s one right off the top of my head that plays for the Eagles… Asante Samuel.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
oh so now its the coaches fault?
So first you say
Ellis Hobbs started for the Pats. Am I calling him a stud? No. Am I saying the Eagles traded for him merely because he played on a championship team? No. I’m just saying that he wasn’t so bad that he was a hindrance to the Pats winning a title.
then you say
Why, because Belichick left Hobbs one on one on a WR that’s 9 inches taller than him on the winning TD? That’s just stupid.
So what is it?
He was good enough to be a starter of a patriot superbowl team and there he was to blame for the game winning TD.
Or hes only a so so player and looked better in a Patriot system that makes everyone look better then they really are. Therefore it was the system that let up the game winning TD.
Oh and if its height your concerned about well Roy Dez KO MA are all atleast 6-2..
And your comment below is laughable… CB depth is a weakness. The eagles starting right corner is avg at best and whos behind him? Everyone knows the nickel corner is a starter in todays NFL.
Really?! Really?!
Nickle corner is, and has been for the past few years, Joselio Hansen, who has played the role very well.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
I don’t even know what we’re arguing anymore with Hobbs. I said he’s an average corner that wasn’t so bad that he was good enough to start on a Super Bowl winner. From there, it’s gone down to 4 or 5 nonsensical levels away from that basic point. I bring up that on the Giants’ game winning TD from the 10, maybe you don’t line up a 5’9 corner on an island against a 6’5 receiver without any help – Of course Hobbs is going to get beat. So would Newman. So would Jenkins. So would Scandrick. And now you want to talk the height of your WRs – I’m done with this nonsense. So pretty please with sugar on top… I’m not saying Hobbs is some sort of great player – Let it go.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
you should know all about missed tackles
with Samuel as one of your DBs, he makes Ball look like Ronnie Lott.
In Romo we Trust
This guy also makes Ball look like Ronnie Lott…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW7lz8x2I-0
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
you should know all about missed tackles
with Samuel being one of your DBs, he makes Ball look like Ronnie Lott, lol.
In Romo we Trust
Yup, Asante Samuel is a missed tackle machine – No argument there. He also makes more plays than any other corner in the game (9 picks last year), so there’s a lot of good to go along with his deficiencies. But again, good luck with Ball.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
we don't need luck with Ball
he’s just a transition piece until Hamlin or Akwasi develop who will be fine safeties in the league.
In Romo we Trust
This guy also makes Ball look like Ronnie Lott…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW7lz8x2I-0
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
Oh Im sorry
My other comment prob wasnt clear enough… Hobbs never helped the pats WIN a superbowl.. the whole reason i brought up david tyree catch
Really?! Really?!
Maybe he can cover Roy when our teams meet
He doesn’t suck, but like you say, average at best and only 5’9". Shouldn’t have let Brown go, but I applauded the move.
I see the Iggles DB’s as the glaring weakness on your team,JMHO
Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Felix Jones = defensive coordinator's Kobayashi Maru scenario
OL depth
We’ll see if your center can get back this season, the odds are against it. So right there you have a problem with moving Cole to center and hoping that the remaining Andrews brother can get on the field this year.
Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Felix Jones = defensive coordinator's Kobayashi Maru scenario
I wouldn’t say the odds are against Jamaal Jackson coming back this year. If you were to say that he won’t be able to perform at his peak best, that I’ll buy.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
Didn't his injury happen very late in the season?
If he makes it back, it would be later in the year before he could start. Unless he has Wes Welker superpowers of recovery.
Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Felix Jones = defensive coordinator's Kobayashi Maru scenario
agree with all your points but the graham one
actually i’ve got some fear to see him against the boys
McNabb vs. Klob
I think the Eagles made the right move in going with Kolb. The game against the Saints is really the only time I have seen him play extensively, but he did look very accurate. If he wasn’t a Philly guy, I’d probably snatch him up in an FF league.
McNabb, on the other hand, looked good when airing it out deep to DeSean & Co., but on many mid-range passes, he seemed to love hitting the wrong green with his passes: the turf.
Btw, I still hate seeing that Nate Allen is an Eagle—not that I am unhappy with the ’Boys draft or anything. Just sucks that he had to go to Philly of all places.
Trust them...they know what they're doing.
Kolb will go through his growing pains
like all young and inexperienced QBs. McNabb might not have been the most accurate passer, but he did throw minimal INTs, we’ll see how Kolb does in this regard.
In Romo we Trust
I agree with you on that.
I just think for Philly, it was time for them to move on.
Trust them...they know what they're doing.
by Aaron Novinger on Jun 30, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I disagree
If you think Reid and Mornhinweg will put Kolb in situations that will have him doing too much, you’re wrong.
They will have this guy running the West Coast offense with lots of shorter routes that don’t force the O-line to stay on their blocks too long.
I think Kolb could have a coming out party much like Aaron Rodgers did.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I don't care how much Reid tries to protect Kolb
there will be times he’ll make mistakes and the Eagles will pay for it…. and Kolb isn’t nearly as talented as Rodgers, bad comparison.
In Romo we Trust
There has been a theory
around the NFL that you lose a game for each rookie you start.
With the 13 rooks ,of which I don’t know how many will start,this could bite the birds this year.
Klob will lose some games on his own.Romo did when he first became a starter.
If the Igles are a wild card that would mean a lot of teams with asperations to be playing in Dallas in Jan. found thier season in the toliet.
by TCB Orange Dino on Jun 30, 2010 3:45 PM CDT reply actions
If all 13 rookies start, since they went 11-5 last year, will they go -2-18?
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
by JimmyK on Jul 1, 2010 5:57 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The biggest difference between McNabb and "Corn on the" Kolb
has to be their ability to move around in and outside of the pocket, right? Sure McNabb sin’t the same running QB that he was in 2000-2002, but I recall some fantastic running plays he made against the Cowboys in just the last few games. Does Kolb have the same escapability? I know Kolb was sacked just 3 times in 2009 on 90+ attempts, but those were two home games against mediocre defenses, plus he has no rushing yards. He ain’t exactly Steve Young in that regard. Just wondering…
I have thought the same thing
on the other hand Kolb is reported to have quicker decision-making and release than McNabb, so the answer will maybe be found in scheme. If Reid attempts to keep going for the long passes, he’ll be sacked more. If he goes with slightly more conservative passing game, it may be just fine.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
No way he takes many risks this year, at least early in the year
They will come out a little conservative I think, to try to build his confidence. If he plays well, then they could expand the play calling as the season goes along.
McNabb's Strength
McNabb is so difficult to take down. How many times did Ware and co get there only for McNabb to shrug off the tackle and throw the pass. I’ve got to believe Kolb won’t be as difficult to take down especially this year, his first starting.
Living in Houston and following Kolb at UH
I said then and I’ll say now that the Eagles got the best QB of that draft. That’s not saying much for the draft that produced QBs JaMarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, Drew Stanton, and Tyler Thigpen.
However, I don’t believe he has the game experience for there not to be a letdown this year. I also don’t think he’ll have as good of a career as McNabb but, then again, I was never impressed by NcNabb and no matter what he did, he still never won a title with the team.
he certianly is sorrounded by better players than
those guys you just listed.
by Musiccitynorm on Jun 30, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
For a minute there I thought I had landed on BGN instead of BTB
Eagles in the title, Eagles in the picture.
Then I saw: “Brian Westbrook, a Cowboys killer”. I laughed, hard, and knew I was home.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jun 30, 2010 5:39 PM CDT reply actions
size
also, isn’t kolb smaller than mcnabb? that could play a part in sacks. with mcnabb, he would sometimes get away from some sacks but kolb being smaller it will be harder to do.
it's called a satchel and indiana jones wears one.
he's listed on NFL.com as 6-3 218lbs
I think that’s plenty big for the NFL.
really?
mcnabb is bigger and that was my point. and i guarantee you that those numbers are inflated. he doesnt’ look very big. vick looks bigger than him. besides it’s strength i was talking about not just size.
it's called a satchel and indiana jones wears one.
Enough!
This is a Cowboys zone. E-A-G-L-E-S S-U-C-K ! Let’s keep it real.
(j/k kidding, sort-of. I too like the perspective. Sometimes. btw., please be sure to send us links to your comments, interviews, that might be posted on the Beagle’s site)
don't back off, dude
The Fecals DO suck. Plain and simple. A descending team for the world’s ugliest (albeit rabid) fans.
Super 5 he's not
Prediction: Eagles 8-8… because teams will come at him non-stop because Andy Reid and Marty Morningwheg have never been, nor ever will be, be conservative enough to RUN the ball regularly. So teams will tee off and Kolb may suffer initially before righting the ship. The West Coast O will help with trying to move the ball regularly with the pass and having Kolb take shorter drops and make quicker reads and a lot more checkdowns. But I just also have this gut feeling that Kolb could be a turnover machine under durress (as most QBs I guess) and given Andy and Marty’s hades-bent approach.
Agreed, I see a lot of dump offs and swing passes from Kolb
LeSean McCoy could catch 75 balls this season.
I was on the Nate Allen bandwagon until his life was ruined (drafted by Philly)
I also liked their backup TE/H-Back Clay Harbor.
Seems like a lot of the 13 draft picks were spent on guys who fell in the draft because of injury and/or concerns about speed and quickness. Sapp, Lindley, Chaney. Could all be washouts or bargains.
I will go out on a limb and predict Kolb will be better than other Houston QB’s Andre Ware and David Klingler.
Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Felix Jones = defensive coordinator's Kobayashi Maru scenario
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I think the guy on the Eagles that will hurt the worst from McNabb leaving
Is Jackson, who thrived on McNabbs big arm once he got past the defense, w/ Kolb who is a better short passer Jackson will have to go over the middle more and will get hit more by LBs and Safeties than previously and with his small frame could lead to more injuries, he does have good burst so he won’t become ineffective but his TD production will drop as well as his big plays
by nicholas.rodriguez on Jul 2, 2010 6:55 PM CDT reply actions
DeSean Jackson's TDs last year
85 yard punt return, 71 yard reception, 64 yard reception, 67 yard run, 57 yard reception, 54 yard reception, 48 yard reception, 35 yard reception, 72 yard punt return, 60 yard reception, 19 yard reception, 2 yard reception, 4 yard reception
One trick pony? I’ll take that “one trick.”
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
without McNabb I'm guessing it won't happen
BTW, thanks for the numbers, they prove my point exactly.
In Romo we Trust
Unless your point is that DeSean Jackson is freaking awesome, then I agree… proved it nicely.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
Oops, that came out a little retarded.
I’ll simplify it – DeSean Jackson is the biggest offensive playmaker in the division, and it’s not even close.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
Since Special Teams aren't "offense"
I doubt that is a true statement.
He is very good. But it will be interesting to see how his skills can be used with Kolb at the helm. Not saying he’ll be less productive, it’s just something that will be interesting to see.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
So far, so good...
In his 2 games working with Kolb…
vs. Saints – 4 catches, 101 yards, 1 TD
vs. Chiefs – 6 catches, 149 yards, 1 TD
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
yeah, those are some great secondaries, lol
What were his stat lines in the 3 Cowboys games??? Just wondering
In Romo we Trust
Didn’t the Saints win the Super Bowl?
But that’s irrelevant. He had 2 great games with Kolb. End of story. Thanks.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
Saints are world champs because of their offense, you know that
He had two great games with Kolb against poor secondaries and did nothing against the Cowboys…end of story
In Romo we Trust
my point is Jackson is a one trick pony
and your stats prove as much Jimmy. I’d take Austin over him in a heartbeat because he’s a much more complete receiver, it’s not even close.
In Romo we Trust
Sure, you can have complete. I’ll take the guy that’s a threat to score every time he touches the ball.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
and that would be Austin as well
only difference is that Austin can actually break tackles as well instead of being arm tackled like a little girl.
In Romo we Trust
haha thread officially closed
Really?! Really?!
by thebigham on Jul 6, 2010 4:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Ha, yup… Dallas smoked the Eagles, no question. Can’t argue that. Reminded me of the 44-6 game and Dallas fans reminding Eagle fans that after playoffs wins against Minny and the Giants, they eventually lost to the Cardinals.
So congrats – The Cowboys beat the banged-up Eagles… badly. And it must have felt nice to win a playoff game for the first time since the Clinton administration. Again, congrats. Doesn’t change the fact that Dallas, particularly that ancient OL, got absolutely STEAMROLLED by the Vikings the next week.
Aren’t we kind of past this yahoo or espn message board garbage, bud?
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
by JimmyK on Jul 6, 2010 5:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't know...
…are you?
I doesn’t seem like it. In fact, such garbage seems to be your stock in trade.
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