The VRR: With Patrick Crayton and Dez Bryant, Cowboys Receiving Corps Complete
by Aaron Novinger on Jun 9, 2010 12:30 PM CDT
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PrintToday should mark the first time the Cowboys get to use both Patrick Crayton and Dez Bryant together in offensive formations. While Crayton has all reminded us that OTAs are "voluntary", he did make his return at yesterday's practice. Bryant, though, was held out after he told trainer Jim Maurer that he felt some "tightness" in his hamstring.
Maurer, erring on the side of caution, told him to sit out the rest of the day and give it a go again on Wednesday. Bryant said he intends to try to practice on Wednesday and be ready for the mandatory minicamp this weekend.
Bryant termed it just the normal aches and pains of getting his body acclimated to football again after playing only three games in college last year.
Along with Bryant, Jay Ratliff and Stephen Bowen are expected to practice today after missing yesterday's OTA. Ratliff has been recovering from elbow surgeries, while Bowen missed practice to attend funeral services for Hofstra Coach Joe Gardi.
Coach Phillips with the official word on why Bryant was held out:
"It's not a pull or anything," coach Wade Phillips said. "But just like the rest of our players, anybody that has any kind of strain or anything we keep him out. We expect him back [Wednesday]."
More VRR after the jump.
Crayton's return, of course, was the media story of the day.
"I'm always glad to be back with my teammates, back on this field," he said. "It's like your sanctuary, so it was a great feeling today to just get back out there, be able to run some routes, and put the jersey back on and the helmet on."
Asked if he still wanted to be released, Crayton responded, "Right now, I'm not worried about being released."
There were plenty of mics around Crayton's locker.
Roy Williams said it was good to have "Old Man" Crayton back.
The wideouts and quarterbacks had some healthy competition yesterday from the Dallas defensive backfield. All three safeties, Alan Ball, Gerald Sensabaugh, and Mike Hamlin turned in good practices.
Hamlin and Sensabaugh had interceptions and Ball broke up two passes, including one that led to a Terence Newman interception on a Jon Kitna throw to Patrick Crayton.
Hamlin made a good read on a crossing route by Sam Hurd on a Tony Romo throw for his pick. Sensabaugh's pick came on a zone blitz on a Kitna pass.
Give Sensabaugh a virtual pick-6!
Sensabaugh stepped in front of Patrick Crayton on a hot route during the Tuesday’s OTA workout and picked off a pass from Jon Kitna. It would have been an easy touchdown return.
No O.J. Atogwe? Alan Ball is cool with that.
``It definitely does something for your confidence to know people around you believe in you,'' Ball said.
Ball will head into training camp as the top free safety on the depth chart. He will face camp competition from Michael Hamlin and Patrick Watkins.
The QBs and WRs did have some success yesterday. Check out Todd Archer's OTA observations from yesterday. Nice to see Stephen McGee making a play, getting some love.
Two of the prettiest touchdown catches came from Roy Williams (from Tony Romo ) and Rashaun Greer (from Stephen McGee). Williams tip-tapped his toes by the pylon on a bullet of a throw from Romo in front of cornerback Marquis Floyd. McGee floated a pass over two defenders into the corner of the end zone allowing Greer to come down with the ball with time to get his feet down on the ground.
It sounds as if McGee is making progress.
No. 3 quarterback Stephen McGee had his best day of OTAs. His accuracy was less than ideal, but he impressed the offensive coaching staff by making decisions and throwing quicker than at any point during these workouts.
"Making that decision quicker is a key for him," Phillips said.
Brandon Williams is learning some moves from DeMarcus Ware and is vying to get in the rotation as a pass rusher.
"That's another move he has taught me," Williams said. "I just use what I get."
With Ware and Anthony Spencer, the Cowboys have one of the best pair of pass-rushing outside linebackers in the NFL, but they remain in search of a third one. Victor Butler filled the role some last season. Jason Hatcher could do it some when needed. But Williams, who did not play as a rookie after tearing the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee during the preseason, has made the most of his return during organized team activities this spring.
"He seems to be back to where he was last year at this time, and that was a good place because he's exceptionally quick off the ball," coach Wade Phillips said. "He's got a lot of skill pass rush-wise. It's good to see him back."
The DMN's OTA pics from Tuesday
DC.com's OTA photo gallery
Keith Brooking is expected to get in one OTA practice tomorrow before the team's mandatory mini-camp this weekend.
Brooking hopes at least to participate in some individual drills Thursday, then practice once a day during the mini-camp, which runs Friday through Sunday.
The Cowboys have been cautious with Brooking's rehab since he had a routine scope in early May.
Still recovering from his March shoulder surgery, Akwasi Owusu-Ansah is spending his practice time getting in shape and learning the secondary from coach Dave Campo.
"I'm getting there," Owusu-Ansah said. "I'm not where I want to be, but I think I could make it through a full day of practice." Owusu-Ansah isn't scheduled to return to practice until training camp, but he said he's prepared mentally for a role in the secondary.
"I feel like I'm very ready," Owusu-Ansah said. "Mike Hamlin, Alan Ball, they help me all the time whenever I have questions. My main thing is to get back healthy and be ready to compete and participate."
[snip]
"He's on top of everything in the meetings," Phillips said. "He stands back with Campo and tells him what they're supposed to do on each play."
BTB's June 8, 2010 Tweet O' the Day:
So MBIII played the last 13 games of the 2009 season with a torn quad. Respect.
Indeed, Marion Barber's quad wasn't pulled last season; it was "partially torn" for much of the year. Ouch!
That's 13 games, and the quad wasn't the former Pro Bowler's only issue. He also battled knee injuries and a broken thumb. So while weathering some criticism from fans and the press, Barber was winning some serious respect from teammates and coaches.
"That just shows you how strong-willed he is," said Felix Jones. "He's one of the more physical guys in the world. It's like a slap in the face to criticize him. You're putting your body on the line in getting hit from all types of directions. That's somebody you look up to. He's shown us a lot."
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I really don't think I can respect MBIII anymore
and then I hear about him play most of the season with a torn quad and multiple other injuries and I just think “Wow, this guys amazing.” I really hope he can be the brutal closer again so Dash and Tash can get more reps, but he’ll always be the man in my book. Makes me think about how Emmitt played with a seperated shoulder, Cowboys RB’s just have heart.
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Projected 2010 Record: 12-4. You heard it here first
Just saying, but your title is confusing.
Makes it sound like you can’t respect him anymore, as in you can no longer respect him. But, your actual post clears it up, but just in case, Jeremiah_24 can not respect MBIII any more than he already can because MBIII is already at the very top of the chain. :)
Thank you for clearing that up.
I say things just assuming people are in my brain and hear my thoughts.
I don’t think I can respect him more than I already do makes a ton more sense.
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Projected 2010 Record: 12-4. You heard it here first
you're a marine, we get it
eat now, taste later…ready, shoot, aim.
I could go on all day with this.
JK. I love Marines. My favorite guys to go to war beside.
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
Exactly. I don't get paid to think.
There’s a reason we have the nickname “Rock kickers” overseas.
Semper Fi Do or Die
Projected 2010 Record: 12-4. You heard it here first
I've been telling all the haters since the offseason started
That Barber was injured all of last year and that is why he didn’t look like his old self. Somehow a lot of people still chose to look past his toughness and wanted to say that he wore down and other crap like that. The punisher will be back to form next year and I would really hate to be on the other side of the ball for his first carry next year. He might knock a linebacker out…
It doesn't really help us "haters" at all!
How about if a guy with a torn quad (duh, I could have diagnosed that just from watching him ‘running’ last year)
holds himself out for the better of the team?
How about the coaches do their job and hold him out ?!
Choice should have had his snaps from week 10 on.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Jun 9, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
aaannnnnd
as I scroll down I see there’s a good discussion of this throughout.
It’s on the coaches #1, Barber #2, he shouldn’t have been playing,
and these kinds of injuries have a way of coming back again, so I’ll never consider him healthy and ready for a whole season.
As many others say below.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Jun 9, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
realist, your pessimism is emptying your cup
Where do you get this idea that a quad injury lingers? I’ve had a couple in my day, and while they were painful and lengthy, they disappeared over time like any muscle injury.
I don’t understand the desire to paint MBIII into this ‘has-been’ role when there’s no realistic reason for it.
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DLuke,
I like what you bring to this blog, honestly you crack me up.
Also, MBIII is the man, he and Witten should brawl to see who is the toughest dude with the star on thier helmet.
Gotta disagree with you, though. I am an LMT, I do a lot of injury therapy (right now for our troops,) and Larry is right, hammies are hard to make right once they’ve gone wrong. Coach said he has still got a hole, so we are talking real trauma.
First, there are several muscles that lay over one another and work in conjunction.
Second, there is a ton of connective tissue, which does not have bloodflow and is slow to heal, same with the long tendons on some of the Vastus muscles and semitendonosous and semimembrinosous.
Third, once there is scar tissue built up, it affects range of motion, which reflects in the glutes and lower back, which can lead to compensation, or misusing a muscle to make up for the loss of movement.
I agree with everyone else, I respect him even more for playing through that, and am sure the team has a top flight physical therapy staff. He really should have sat out several games last year though, given our depth at running back.
Someone knock me unconcious until August. No, September, preseason only makes it worse.
by BlueNSilverBlood on Jun 9, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, Blue and Silver knows a lot more than me
but here’s what I’ll say-
you are not an NFL running back, #1. I know us weekend warriors like to compare ourselves to the pros, but c’mon.
2nd, these guys’ hams and quads aren’t like yours and mine. They’re huge and tightly wound.
I’d hesitate to guess how big Barbers thighs are-30 inches??
Common sense tells me what I need to know.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Jun 10, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
... in this case, your 'common' sense is wrong
Realist, you often make good points on this board… in fact I agree with 90% of what you said above. There’s little doubt that Barber shouldn’t have been playing. I had to say that because you only see me rebutting the ones with which I disagree. In this case, it started with:
these kinds of injuries have a way of coming back again, so I’ll never consider him healthy and ready for a whole season.
I honestly don’t understand why you and the rest of the ‘realists’ want to paint MBIII a has-been for injuries he’s fully recovered from. Money quote from Blue and Silver:
I was not trying to say it will never be right, just should have taken several weeks off.
Now, you can make a case that his running style will make him more susceptible to injury in the future. But I’m not buying any of this argument that this injury is career-threatening, or even that Barber’s treads are already wearing thin. The guy just turned 27 yesterday … young even for a bruiser-style back.
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
That guy
is a monster. A lot of fans have been quick to forget that because of injuries like this hampering the guy. But now with a much more balanced rotation between him and Ze Cat, he’ll stay fresh and get more of his productivity back.
#9 has the most incredible 4 yard gain in the history of the NFL.
There are two sides to the MBIII Injury
He wasn’t playing well and now we know why.
Assuming the coaches didnt know about the tear,
you could build a case that Barber was being
selfish with sub-par playing when Choice could
have played much better.
Was he being a brave soldier or perhaps
just protecting his starting job? Just saying.
It's the coaching staff's responsibility to put the most capable player out there.
If they wanted to lessen the load on Barber they could have. Do you honestly expect Barber to sit out and miss game checks? That’s beside the point that any player with true passion for the game will do anything they can to play if they believe they can.
I’m certainly not disagreeing with your point that Choice should’ve gotten more carries but the blame isn’t with Barber but with the coaching staff as to how each back is implemented.
MBIII would not have missed game checks if he hed himself out due to injury
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I responded before reading the whole thread, and did not see you addressed this later. Sorry about piling on
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If you don't want the guy playing you have to hide his helmet.
He’s got to much heart to sit out if someone doesnt force him to. I don’t blame him.
Semper Fi Do or Die
Projected 2010 Record: 12-4. You heard it here first
Barber wasn't withholding anything ... the coaches knew full well what his condition was each week.
… also, injured players get their checks. Barber wanted to play, no doubt. What’s surprising is that the Coaches didn’t reduce his carries and allow him to better recover. With the talent behind him on the roster, that was a very real mistake.
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Don't ask me where I got the notion that injured players miss their game checks.
I haven’t the frothiest. I probably picked up the misconception from hearing about some player getting injured in preseason, being released and the talking heads mentioning his game-to-game salary being used to pay a replacement. Knowing the nuances of player salaries has never been my strong suit.
that’s one of the big mysteries from last season that makes you wonder about the coaching staff, why the heck did they keep playing him when he was so obviously not himself? great that the guy is such a warrior to try to run with a torn quad, but fact is he wasn’t running well at all, Choice should have gotten more of those carries. Plus he probably took longer to heal.
it really makes no sense at all scott
why not rest him for 6-8 weeks and then he could have possibly came back healthy for our playoff run. that baffled me all year last year
+1
Less productive + longer to heal + quality depth = very poor coaching decision
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+1,000,000
Makes you wonder who made that decision. Was it a Jerry call or Wade call?
"The last time the Eagles visited Cowboys Stadium, they were spitting on the star. This time they left Cowboys Stadium pissing their pants."- Mike "Fish" Fisher
I think both Jerry and Wade had their hand in this.
Wade doesn’t really like trusting newbies and Jerry likes seeing his money on the field.
totally disagree... I think people give Jerry way too much credit for who is getting snaps.
It’s not his job as GM or Owner, and I just don’t see Jerry trying to push his way into strategy sessions. Does he make his opinion known? Sure. I his opinion the last word? Very doubtful. I would put the onus on Jason Garrett – it’s his offense.
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Jerry thinks otherwise
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you think so? I think he learned his lessons.
I doubt BP allowed too much input, and it just isn’t a GM/Owners job or place to dictate personnel to that extreme. I just can’t see Jerry saying “I don’t care what the doctors say, play him.”
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Just last year there was an interview where Jerry said he was making game day personnel decisions
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really???? WOW ... WOW ... WOW !!!
I have to say, that totally disappoints me. How many owners or GMs even think about such a move?
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
A total of 2
Jerry Jones and Al Davis, now that’s a pair to draw to.
WOW WOW Wubbzy, it's time for number six.
Jerry claimed this practice went back to the Jimmy Johnson era
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I really doubt Jerry made much if any
personnel decisions while Jimmy was here.
WOW WOW Wubbzy, it's time for number six.
I agree, but Jerry claims otherwise
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I always hear this stuff 2nd hand, is there a link?
I’m not doubting a fellow Jersey boy, it’s just that I always hoped that was bad rumor … if Jerry’s sticking his nose into strategy rooms, why doesn’t he demote Wade to DC and just call himself coach? Grrrr… I don’t like it at all.
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
I don't have a link
It was a radio interview with a Dallas area sports radio station. Maybe one of tha local Dallas guys will remember the name of talk show and can search for us.
I did find this: http://espn.go.com/dallas/chat/_/id/28604/cowboys-jerry-jones
Scroll down to Jerry’s 3:23 answer, but the radio interview I heard was a much clearer statement of Jerry’s gameday decision making
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I have no doubt that Jerry
makes game day dicisions. Wade is the really DC and part time HC. Garrett is the OC. Jerry knows he has to have a HC so the fans won’t raise hell.
WOW WOW Wubbzy, it's time for number six.
this is all a revelation for me ... I think I'd prefer to put my head back in the sand before it explodes!
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Solid history of the Cowboys playing the guys with big contracts...
…even when their health or play didn’t seem to warrant it.
- MB3
- RW
- Colombo (who looked bad against Minnie and vs. Philly the week earlier)
Jerry likes seeing his money on the field
Well said.
by Left Coast Cowboy on Jun 9, 2010 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
How bout looking at it as
Barber was injured and still was churning out 4.4 YPC. Was right on pace with a couple other top backs in the league. No need to hate, just to be glad that he is getting his health back.
Choice should have gotten more action last year ‘especially after his role in the KC game,’ but the he didn’t, hopefully they fix that this year.
No
that dude is not the selfish type. If it were his choice, for the betterment of the team, i believe he wouldve swapped out some carries. that guy, the very few times hes spoken, has been all about the success of the team over that of the individual.
#9 has the most incredible 4 yard gain in the history of the NFL.
Another great line from RW
“I’m always competing with anybody on the team, especially with Patrick. Because #1, I’m better than him…..”
Also nice to see Stephen McGee get a shout out. Of course, that’s about all we’ll hear about him this season. (Hopefully)
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Tom Landry
You have to enjoy the confidence
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yea I noticed that too
seems Roy is always putting his foot in his mouth. In my opinion Crayton was better than Roy last yr but admittedly it`s a close call…but for his contract and the draft picks to get him…should it even be close?
When has Roy really put his foot in his mouth?
If anyone has done that out of the two of them it would be Crayton with his Super Bowl prediction that he literally dropped the ball on.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jun 9, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
MBIII is an animal
but healthy or not, Felix is the better player and the bigger threat and deserves more carries. This revelation definitely keeps him above Choice talent wise, but does nothing to change the fact that MBIII is getting injured more frequently now.
yes, he’s a soldier for playing with injuries- but he is getting injured consistently.
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KDP, if MBIII had a career history of injuries, you might have a point.
But “getting injured consistently” is reaching at this point. If you want to make the point that MBIII is so old that he’s now entering the years where he may be more injury prone, that still doesn’t hold water. In fact, his limited carries due to sharing time throughout his NFL and collegiate career is a case for the opposite to be true.
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not true
to act as if Marion Barber can be compared to runners with less impactful styles wouldn’t be a smart way to analyze this. Can I quantify how much more punishment he’s taken, even though he has less carries? No. Can I see it with my eyes and make an educated guess that 200 Marion Barber carries are more impactful and damaging then 200 Emmitt Smith carries? Definitely.
This admission says that in the last 21 games (17 last year, final four from 2008) Marion Barber has been completely healthy for 4 of them. If I remember correctly, he may have had a early season injury that hampered his production in 2008 as well. Even without that, that is a startling percentage of time with a major injury.
How can you look at it otherwise?
His running style is brutal. In the two years that he has been the number one back, he couldn’t complete the first season and in the second had an injury that knocked him down levels for almost the entire season. Then he added a broken finger and a knee injury.
What would it take for you to say he is getting injured consistently? Paralysis?
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When you're injured you have to change the way you play.
That is what the additional injuries are attributed to in my mind. If you have an injury and play through it you aren’t yourself, therefore making yourself more injury prone because you’re not used to playing a different way.
Semper Fi Do or Die
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We're talking about TWO injuries that measurably affected his play ... IN AN ENTIRE CAREER
Whether those injuries knocked him out of a whole season or merely affected his play is irrelevant when it comes to my comment: there’s no evidence he’s “consistently getting injured.”
Felix was injured his first TWO years, I don’t hear you adding that to your case for giving him more carries. By your definition, it’s actually Felix that’s getting injured consistently, not MBIII. Do I want to see Choice and Felix more? Sure, but for reasons I consider more realistic.
Sorry, just how I see it. You’re welcome to disagree.
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Nevermind. Dez is still out today...for the most part.
Rookie receiver Dez Bryant was a little more active on Wednesday than the day before, but still missed practice with tightness in his left hamstring.
Maybe tomorrow?
Trust them...they know what they're doing.
hammys aren't something you mess with
Maybe he should sit out the entire mini camp to be 100% for camp.
In Romo we Trust
Probably at least tomorrow, so he can be good to go for this weekend.
Trust them...they know what they're doing.
by Aaron Novinger on Jun 9, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Do the coaches not trust Choice?
MB3 was hurt and the coaches choose to play him over Choice. There has to be a reason.
salary
regardless of what gets said… Jerry is a business man and wants a return on his investment.
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I would agree with you
except it was an injury. To me the smart thing to do is get Barber healthy. I think Choice at full speed is better than Barber at 3/4 speed, but the coaches must not agree. I don’t think even Jerry would insist on Barber playing hurt. IMO it was a coaches call.
With the way that Wade plays younger guys
It is no surprise to me that WP thought that Barber was better than Choice even when Barber was hurt. I would disagree with Wade on this, but it just goes to show and prove further that Wade Philips doesn’t like playing rookies.
yeah i don't know
i think choice should get more carries regardless, he’s a player…plain and simple
by CowboysFan4Life on Jun 9, 2010 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
blitz pickups?
Barber probably gets more playing time due to his understanding of blitz pickups. I think a lot of people forget how good he is at that.
That doesn't hold water,
because Choice played more passing downs than anything last year.
I don’t know, it bugs the hell out of me. Choice should be getting actual touches, not be on the field primarily as a third down back.
I agree 100%
I think there may be a scale and tipping point in regards to this. I love Jerry, I just think that there are many other factors that go into a player playing than just who is the best option at that specific point.
Of course, this is with the egotistical assumption that what we feel as fans is determined in the same way the coaches develop their view of the team- which is wrong for all of us :)
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wow- rookie mistake
this was a reply to DireWolf
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jun 9, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
he allowed for him
we could haver had a Ten!
So close to being as good as Bo Derek
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Jun 9, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually...
he may have met Tex already. There’s a guy over there who also refers to himself in the third person and also has a strange fixation on Romo. DMN’s Moneyshot may be BTB’s Tex. Check out the first comment on this thread and tell me this isn’t our Tex freelancing.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jun 9, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope it's Tex.
If it’s not that would a pair to draw to.
WOW WOW Wubbzy, it's time for number six.
I miss Tex like a bad case of the clap.
Tex is like a fly, he eats sh!t and bothers people.
WOW WOW Wubbzy, it's time for number six.
LOL ... exactly
Moneyshot sounds like Tex’s literate cousin. Same family tree, same warped sense of self, and same mis-guided view of the world.
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I dunno OCC
Similiar style but no mention of Calvados (replaced by Heineken). Maybe it’s a brother or cousin..
"The greatest test of courage on earth is to bear defeat without losing heart."
That would be one scary family
To be fair though, I used a fairly simply search string (+"third person" +cowboysblog) and got that moneyshot guy immediately. Maybe every blog in the world has a Tex-type personality.
This is how urban legends start.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jun 9, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
DalaiLuke thinks urban legends are over-rated.
DalaiLuke believes another Singha and a good start to the season will keep Tex and his brethren at bay :)
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Can't be Tex; that guy actually acknowledges other bloggers.
Tex is so much better than the common blogger he can’t even be bothered to engage in a spirited back-and-forth.
Welcome hayyabbott ... take off your coat, kick off the shoes and make yourself at home :)
We like to rip each other, but in the end this is the best bunch of Cowboys fans on the net … just IMHO :)
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I’ve been very impressed too. I have learned a lot from these guys. Also, they are a bunch of clowns who make me shoot milk out of my nose, and wake my neice up in the middle of the night from laughing out loud.
Someone knock me unconcious until August. No, September, preseason only makes it worse.
by BlueNSilverBlood on Jun 9, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
OOOOOOOGLETREEEEEEEEEEE!
Just don’t want this guy to get lost
You know...
word is he’s kind of struggled in camp right now.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jun 10, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
He needs to cut down on late nights at the strip clubs.
… and stop throwing all that cash around.
:)
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
I heard he he was making a cocain buy just outside the club and got in a fight
then things got really ugly so he reached for his Glock, the other guy hit him in the head with a street sign, causing him to shoot himself in the leg, , his posey then shot the other guy, threw him in the car and took off. Ogletree payed them to say he was just a by stander during the whole thing.
I heard he also got run over and shot twice at the club...
…and then shot again on the freeway driving home.
by Left Coast Cowboy on Jun 11, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
was that before or after getting hit in the eye by a beer bottle turned projectile?
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
After...but before getting busted for cocaine possesion at his B-Day party
by Left Coast Cowboy on Jun 11, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Just for that
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#9 has the most incredible 4 yard gain in the history of the NFL.
Hahaha
Nice.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Jun 10, 2010 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm mesmerized ... can't stop watching, or laughing!
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
try watching that for just one FULL minute ... if you aren't cracking up check your pulse
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
plus won
thatta way to start my mornin
#9 has the most incredible 4 yard gain in the history of the NFL.
the thing is, both of them are very funny characters OFF the set ... which makes the whole clip even better
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Speaking of MB3 haters
did anyone else read that pile of dung that jennifer engle published in the Star-Telegram on the Barbarian?
Can you imagine the production meetings over there?
“hey, Jen, you write the batshit crazy column again, ok?”
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
Yeah, I read that and wished I hadn't.
Trust them...they know what they're doing.
by Aaron Novinger on Jun 9, 2010 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
What the he'll is the coaching staff doing?
Putting MB3 in games with a torn thigh? We have the deepest running back pack in the league! That’s unconscionable!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jun 9, 2010 8:15 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I agree Blue Eye.
I’ve had several debates on here with people about this type of issue. The coaches show a real hesitation about going with a younger or less experienced guy even if the veteran in front is playing poorly or injured.
Miles Austin sitting on the bench for a month and only getting a start in week 5 because of an injury. Our offense only really took off last year when Austin finally got the starting job.
Putting a clearly hobbled and rusty Colombo back in for the playoffs while the young, healthy, athletic and playing great Doug Free got sat down on the bench. Colombo promptly plays terrible and ruins any chance of a victory in the divisional playoffs.
And now Marion Barber with a torn quad stays on the field with limited mobility for weeks and weeks while a perfectly healthy and exciting young RB like Choice, who’s played very well every opportunity he’s been given, sits on the bench.
I like our coaches and front office but whoever is making these decisions needs to reevaluate their priorities. Wade Philips is the Head Coach, this one has got to fall on him.
Is it really a Wade/Garrett issue...or might it be more Jerry's doing?
The common thread in almost all the playing time controversies seems to be that:
“He who has the big contract, gets the snaps”.
In all three of your examples, in fans clamoring “free the tree” or get TC more involved; or in this recent note from the mothership
Wade Phillips hinted last week that Hatcher has improved a great deal and could push for more playing time.
Which also corresponds to Hatcher now making more money than Spears.
They did seem to give Scandrick a legit shot to start last year, but can you think of many (any?) other examples where the big contract was still on the team and watching the small contract play?
Or where a player making a lot of real, guaranteed money (not just cap hit $’s like TO) got cut?
by Left Coast Cowboy on Jun 10, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
LeftCoast,
It’s certainly probable that Jerry Jones has some influence into the decisions of who is playing. And it’s certainly probable that Jerry likes to see the guys he’s paying big money to on the field.
But I have a hard time believing that if Head Coach Wade Philips came into Jerry’s office and said something like; "Marion’s torn quad is really hurting his game. He’s lost his quickness and leg drive and he’s just not effective in helping us win games. He needs to rest up so he can heal and he may be able to make it back later in the year. We’ve got a good young RB in Tashard Choice and I’m confident this guy is ready to fill in. As it stands right now Tashard Choice will give us more flexibility and opportunities on offense and that translates into more chances too win. Jerry, our best option to win is Marion needs to sit out and Tashard needs to take his place".
I can’t see Jerry just dismissing a serious approach like this. Whether it’s for Tashard/Barber, Free/Colombo, Austin/Crayton (Austin and Crayton’s money were not that different). Sure he wants to see his money on the field but at what cost to the team? He’s had some awful big contracts he’s paid that would’ve hurt the back-pocket to dump but he’s dumped several of them before completion the last several years.
Of course it’s speculation either way and we have no idea who really wields most influence in those type of decisions but I don’t really buy the "Wade Philips is a powerless puppet" angle that some play. And even if it all Jerry’s decision then as Head Coach it’s Philips job to convince Jerry that this is best for the team.
Some of the other guys here (I think maybe StillHatetheGiants and maybe 5Blings too) have also commented how that Philips has a reputation from his previous HC jobs in Denver and Buffalo for going with the vet over a younger guy who looks better, or going with a returning from injury vet over the young guy who filled in great.
I’m not trying to rag out Philips or anything, I think he’s done a good job here, I just don’t like this aspect and to me it’s got to rest at the feet of the Head Coach.
We agree the Wade, Jason, and Jerry all share responsibility...just not on who deserves the most
I completely agree with you that:
- if a coach was emphatic about playing or not playing someone that Jerry would listen;
- that Wade (and maybe Jason) seem to be loyal to a fault; and
- if we had more assertive coaches – like Parcells, Shanahan, or Belichick – I don’t think Jerry would be as influential.
But if you look at the 3 people we’re talking about:
Wade – is old enough to look at this as his last stop as a head coach…and really he’s more of a defensive mastermind than an operational control freak.
Jason – is new enough to still be making a name for himself, remember he’s still only 3 years removed from being a QB coach.
Jerry – is egotistical enough to
- Insert himself as GM, and head of player personnel, with final decision over who gets drafted or traded, and significant influence over playing time.
- Fire Jimmy Johnson after winning back-to-back Superbowls, over a personality conflict; and
- Disparage Bill Parcells, who clearly helped turn the Cowboys around, as being useless except to help him get the financing he needed for the new stadium
So if I’m gonna choose an Alpha-dog to impose more of his will on who does or doesn’t play…I’m going with JJ.
Just to be clear I am a JJ fan most of the time. I just think he’s hyper-aware of the players getting the most money, and will second-guess the coaches and maybe even the trainers more if they lobby to sit those guys out.
The only other explanations would be that our trainers don’t know how to assess and rehab injuries and our coaches aren’t effective at assessing player performance in games and practice. Those are harder for me to believe.
by Left Coast Cowboy on Jun 10, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice one ...
“Marion’s torn quad is really hurting his game. He’s lost his quickness and leg drive and he’s just not effective in helping us win games. He needs to rest up so he can heal and he may be able to make it back later in the year. We’ve got a good young RB in Tashard Choice and I’m confident this guy is ready to fill in. As it stands right now Tashard Choice will give us more flexibility and opportunities on offense and that translates into more chances too win. Jerry, our best option to win is Marion needs to sit out and Tashard needs to take his place”.
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
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