Dallas Cowboys select DE Joshua Price-Brent in Supplemental Draft
by Key19 on Jul 15, 2010 1:36 PM CDT
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PrintI knew the Supplemental Draft was going on today, but I didn't really expect the Cowboys to pick anyone. Last thing I thought we needed was another fringe/depth guy, and if we needed one anywhere, I would've said OL and not DL. But that said, we have selected this Price-Brent fellow from Illinois in the 7th round of the Supplemental Draft. Here's the lowdown on him from a Shutdown Corner piece quoting Rob Rang:
It's not just the academics - about a year ago, he spent 30 days in jail for a DUI. So, this is one of those guys where there is some off-field stuff as well. Teams will want to do their due diligence to make sure they're not taking too much of a chance. But he is a talented player - measures in at just a shade under 6-foot-2, 318 pounds at the recent private workout he had for clubs. 18 teams were present at the workout, and several sent their directors of player personnel. He has the size to hold up inside, but he doesn't have great strength - he only had 21 reps at the 225-pound bench press at his private workout, and that would have been the worst of any defensive tackle over 295 pounds that was invited to this year's scouting combine.
But you see some athletic ability and some "want-to" on the field. He's a productive player - not a superstar, but a guy who makes you think he's coming around to being something special. He's moving up on a lot of charts, because he's an established player in the Big 10, and a lot of teams are starting to warm up to him. He's probably the safest of the four players.
Then later:
[Being limited as a one-technique specialist] is the concern I have for him. He's not a natural pass-rusher and he doesn't have the lateral quickness to make it as a three-technique tackle. I see him in a 4-3, but not as a true nose tackle. He's a one-gap player; he just doesn't have the strength to be a two-gap guy at this point. He can contribute even as a rookie as a rotational player, but I don't know if he'll ever be a standout.
The author of the Shutdown Corner article, Doug Farrar, says that Rang mentioned to him that he doesn't see Price-Brent projecting as a 3-4 DE. And that's really what has me puzzled. If he's not a NT and he's not a 3-4 DE, then why would we draft him? I guess the only answer is that our scouts disagree with Rob about that.
And hey, at least we didn't use a 1st-rounder in the Supplemental Draft on this guy.
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I will just trust that Wade sees something in him.
I haven’t studied him at all really but if he is a one gapper at his size I would imagine he would be in the running for a shot at the NT position that Jay Ratliff has redefined in some respects. This also may mean that Lissemore will be moved to exclusively DE in training camp.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
They seem to think he could be a situational player now. Thats not bad for a 7th rounder.
If thats true and he would have stayed in college 1 more year he might have been a 3rd rounder next draft.
If thats the case, Im for it.
Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-
A late round steal?
If the following scouting report is anything to go by, that dude might be a steal, and giving up the last pick in next year’s draft doesn’t worry me all that much.
From SportingNews:
Bottom Line: Price-Brent is a three-year junior and two-year starter at right defensive tackle. He should be considered for nose tackle and deserves third-round consideration. He should be an immediate rotational player who could develop into a starter in his second season. He is a better prospect than either Tim Anderson [third round, Bills] or former Barry Cofield, [fourth round, Giants].
by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 15, 2010 1:59 PM CDT reply actions
Ha!
I was just thinking that Mr. Irrelevant has already been picked.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jul 15, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Good luck to Josh and the Juniors
May the best J win!
by Left Coast Cowboy on Jul 15, 2010 3:09 PM CDT reply actions
He is our version of an NT
From everything i’ve seen on this guy, he is an explosive guy who is good at splitting doubles and penetrating. They talked about his inability to play a two gap system cause his lack of power, But his quickness to size ratio is perfect for our system. Just let Jurazic(sp?) get his hands on this kid. He can use his speed to get in the backfield and disrupt. I think he is a good fit for us if this kid loves football and gets his life staight.
At least we didn't pick Steve Walsh.
We’ll see on this guy. I doubt he makes the 53 this year, but a year on the practice squad is likely.
Should 've Seen It Coming
Sounds like a Wade NT. These writers don’t understand that Wade’s defense the NT is a1 gap player and sometimes a bit undersized. Also Jerry doesn’t shy away from people with a past as long as he feels comfortable that the support system will keep him in place. He said one time that drugs are the only thing that makes him leery of selecting a guy because that is a problem that is the hardest to turn around.
We gave up next to nothing to get him.
I like what I’ve read about this kid so far. At least compared to the price to get him. We should be picking low in the 7th round. There will be compensation picks at the end of the round, so realistically, this pick we gave up could be just 6-10 picks away from free agency. This is certainly worth the risk.
Another thought – I keep reading where Dallas has so much depth on the D Line. That’s true, but consider that next season I believe Spears, Hatcher and Bowen are all free agents. I would imagine we would keep only one of that threesome (my guess is Hatcher) so we will need some bodies to replace the two we will lose.
He's cheap and Dallas sees somthing in.
I doubt he will more than another player to try and develop. Throw enough crap on the wall some of it’s bound to stick. I think you’re right, Dallas can’t keep all three, but I hope it’s Spears that’s gone. I would like to see Bowen and Hatcher stick around.
Press Conference?
Introduction…meet & greet…And will there be an open bar… only kidding. Looks like a smart move to get the best value for the lowest pick. Youth, size, desire, and fast for 318 lbs seems like a good package. I have lost count of how many the Boys have ready to go to camp, and how many are allowed??
Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.
Last I heard...
They had 82 and had to get down to 80. And that’s not counting the draftees that haven’t signed yet (AOA, Wall, Lee, Bryant and now Price-Brent).
So that’s what, 7 people that will have to be cut in the next couple weeks? And that’s assuming the don’t put AOA and/or Hodge on the PUP for a couple weeks. My guesses:
Herb Donaldson -RB
Leon Williams-LB
Donovan Woods-LB
Verran Tucker-WR
Terrell Hudgins-WR
Junior Aumavae-NT
Mike Tepper-T
Rabid and luvin' it
by lonewolfz28 on Jul 18, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually, I think we're at 82 including the unsigned players
The mothership lists the roster as 81 players and I think only Price-Brent is missing from that list – so it might just be two players that need to be cut by Saturday.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 18, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
My mistake.
Thanks for the update. That’s much more manageable.
In which case, my money would be on Herb Donaldson, Leon Williams or Donovan Woods to get cut.
Rabid and luvin' it
value is value ....
but a fit is a fit. Thats just like buying tires dirt cheap that dont fit my wheels…
my guess is that Dallas not knows they are not going to be able to retain Spears,Bowen, and Hatcher. They may re sign one of these guys but not all 3. There Stacking DL for future grooming and sucess.
But a guy that isnt a fit hmmm i dnt know they hav to c sumthing in him.
Cody and Spikes???
Seriously? One of a fat tub of goo who cant even get out of his own way, and the other is the slowest Linebacker in the history of the NFL. We don’t need these guys. Neither of their profiles fit what the Cowboys do with their Defense.
And I’m not even going to touch the Ratliff is overrated comment. I dont know why I even replied. How can I take these opinions seriously?
Ratliff isn't overrated...
But I doubt spikes is the slowest lb in the history of the NFL. I also think Cody will provide a role for some team. He’ll be a good run stuffer.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
legit teams drafted them...
Who are u to say what Dallas need? I remember back in march everyone on thz site was wishing DAllas would draft spikez in the 2nd. They took Lee and the ????? went out. From what i hear from JJ…. starter material so enuff said.
those guys u were bashing r contenders and went into systems that could utlize them .. sure they hav a knock on them but they went in the 2nd not 7th like or very own J.RAT who is an all pro.. but any ways they seem to be high on there board if taken so early by teams with great drafting histories so plz dont knock them.
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