JG: It isn't a matter of being a fan...
by Chandus on Jul 16, 2010 2:21 PM CDT
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PrintYou just have to ask yourself: "Is he doing a good job?"
That's a tough question, how can you measure such a thing? Comparing his job with other teams? Comparing his success with the good Offenses from the Cowboys under Aikman, under White and under Staubach?
I tend to do a little different exercize, I look at the previous offseason, at what happened during the season and saying to myself: "this and that is going to happen and the Offense is going to be an extremely productive". To most of those things, in the offseason, I would have said: "stay off the kool aid".
So, in the end, what happened in the regular season and what would have been your answer to such foresight in July of 2009?
- 34 sacks and the best passing Offense in Franchise history. Let that number sink in, such a number was better than what we saw in 2006, 2005 and 2004, sure... But Romo's the current QB, in 2006 and 2005 Bledsoe was the QB for 22 games and in 2004 that was Testaverde... Think about those old guys playing in an OLine that handed Romo that kind of beating and the results wouldn't have been pretty. Romo had the best year in his young career.
- Can't power block to save the RB's life? We can still run all over you. An OLine has several kind of plays, plays that have a lot of movement (let's say that those are finesse plays), plays that mix some finesse with power and power plays (as in beating the guy in front of you mano-a-mano). The Cowboys are great in the first type, 50-50 in the second and absolutely awful in the 3rd. The Cowboys still rushed for more than 2100 yards and an average of 4.8 YPC. Let's just say that the Cowboys are an extremely good but finesse run blocking team.
- Miles Austin - No Number 1 WR? Not for long. Roy Williams had few highlights, lots of lowlights and was an usual non-factor. Miles emerged nearly out of nothing to help the most productive passing season in Franchise history.
- Doug Free starts several games. The O doesn't miss a beat. Let's be honest, if you would have heard such a thing in July, the sky would have been falling down on all of our heads... The passing game, as a matter of fact, looked better with Free in. Colombo's the team best power blocker, though, and he was missed (remember that he was the 2008 Offense MVP).
- Injuries? No problem. Of course, the biggest injury on Offense was suffered by Colombo and he only missed a few games, but a lot of players were slowed down, the list includes: Barber, Felix, Witten, Roy Williams (thank God!), Gurode, Flozell, Martellus, Anderson and obviously Colombo.
- Improved STs? Not so fast, no improvement on Kick Off returns. The importance of STs has been covered by better, or much better, guys than me and their work shows a correlation between points and returns. The punt returns were improved but DeCamillis led a struggling unit in Kickoffs.
Looking at those points, I can't question the quality of work that he delivered, with problems in pass protection and run blocking he adjusted and brought one of the most productive years in Franchise history. And under his watch a few players showed their development and an ability to produce when called upon.
Now, some of the negatives need to disappear, or the Cowboys won't go the distance, but is that really the fault of Garrett or the problem goes deeper? You have to work with what you have and we have yellow and red flags along the OLine.
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Nice write-up, Chandus
Boy, are you going to love the Cowboys Annual this year – promised.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 16, 2010 3:53 PM CDT reply actions
Good article, bro
I couldn’t agree with you more. I really think Romo’s gonna have a monster season this year!
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Chandus,
For this fan post to get legs you must call Garrett silly names and make up big words that make no sense. Also if someone doesn’t agree with you berate them. Just in general act like a complete ass and your post will get plenty of attention.
Or...
you could simply rec the hell out of it.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 16, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
It looks like Romo
has the tools around him to take that next step to be one of the elite QBs in the league. Protection will be the key to his success, give him time and he will cut you to shreds. So many people to throw to if he has time. Look out NFL here comes Dallas.
While I would agree with you just out of a general fear of wolves
I don’t think Romo will get good, consistent protection. So one of the mettics we can judge Garrett on is how well he is able to scheme around the pressure Romo will inevitably face. This has been a challenge in part because the line tends to pass block better early in the season, meaning they don;t have much incentive to adjust until the wheels start falling off and it’s too late to change much. So they need to have plenty of scheme in place to deal with games against dominating lines (like the Vikes, Packers and Broncos did to them last season) and late in the season when the monsters are worn down.
I respect Garrett and I think he is already worked out how he plans to reduce sacks and neutralize pressure. The bubble screen was enough to deal with the Eagles’ schemes, so the next order will be the other teams that whipped the Dallas O-line.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
a luxury
for opposing defenses was that they only had to defend one WR
Nice work Chandus
One thing that concerns me is can the offensive line learn to handle the stunts and twists that the Minn and GB lines were showing last year? Because it gave them a great deal of problems on the interior.
I'll tell you what I've seen
Stunts and twists aren’t anything new for the Cowboys OLine. For starters, they train against a Defense that moves quite a bit… And the Giants and Eagles have been stunting and twisting against the Cowboys for several years now with mixed results.
I’m thinking that this kind of thing should be expected from the Cowboys OLine, they have a mix of inconsistent players and we should expect inconsistent results.
The thing is, can they reduce their problems? Hopefully, they will.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
I agree
I find it odd how successful they were this year against Philly, yet so unsuccessful against GB and Minn. I know Minn has both size and speed on their line. So maybe they struggle when they go up against an elite Dline? Which does not bode well for a playoff run as those type of Dlines would most likely be our opponents. Hurts to have our worst Oline game against the best Dline. This is where I would like to see Houck come up with something that helps mask the interior of the line’s deficiencies in that area. Also with Miles, Dez, and Felix more short quick passes to get the ball into the hands of someone who can make a few guys miss always helps out an aging line.
I don't really see our D
as being of the same sort of exotic mold as the Spagnoulo Giants or the Johnson Eagles, against whom I was generally disappointed in our O performances. Toss in the Ravens, Steelers, maybe those trickster Packers of last year. I think we have more of a beat ya to the quarterback straight up approach. Can’t disagree the Oline has some inconsistency goin’ on that must improve, but this doesn’t absolve the need for Garrett to do the same.
by stargazer33 on Jul 17, 2010 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I think that you’re underestimating the amount of movement along the Cowboys DLine. It all starts with Ratliff, the guy moves all over the place in the interior, from being positioned head-to-head with the Center to head-to-head with a Guard in a shifted alignment and then at the snap move to gap to shoot. The ILBs act according to Ratliff’s move.
The DEs will also move but much less, and mostly because of Ratliff or the OLBs.
And the OLBs have a lot of movement, especially Ware, outside, inside the Tackle, through a Center-Gard gap…
And that’s the 3-4… The 4 man fronts and other pass pressure packages also have a lot of movement, for example the 46 that I looked into in a previous post: http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2009/4/28/857585/the-46-and-cowboy-packages
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Very cool link there Chandus
Nice insight to the looks our D presents. But, again you don’t see anything particularly “exotic”, which is what my focus is.And, you don’t see the Boys get too dramatic from these after the snap. You are correct in that Ratliff will twist/stunt and occasionally you will see Bradie come in, but still pretty standard fare when compared to zone blitz schemes and relentless trickery of some of the Ds’ I mentioned. Now, i don’t mean to imply we’re total vanilla, but why would we get too fancy? When Ware, Spencer and Ratliff are so capable of just beating guys.
nice article chandus
the one thing i want to see is less penalties in the redzone-drive killers really pee me off !!.
Davie Wilson
I think Special Teams were improved
…mainly by Buehler’s big leg.
The starting point for opposing offenses was markedly different from prior year, wasn’t it?
On the flipside, I take the offensive stats with a grain of salt. The game has changed and every team is setting records for yards and especially yards through the air.
Case in point, 2009 saw a record number of 4,000 yard passers. Are you kidding? 4,000 yards used to be like 1600 yards rushing.
Yep, it’s a new game…
One thing I found glaringly absent was the dearth of points scored. What’s your take on that?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
The starting point for opposing offenses was markedly different from prior year, wasn’t it?
Well, I’m talking about the Offense and I talked about the improvement in STs, with the exception of KO returns. That’s my point, that’s an area that needs to improve.
Case in point, 2009 saw a record number of 4,000 yard passers. Are you kidding? 4,000 yards used to be like 1600 yards rushing.
Yeah, it’s a passing League and passing yardage equals success. The Cowboys are in good footing in that department.
One thing I found glaringly absent was the dearth of points scored. What’s your take on that?
If you can’t run block in power plays and if you have protection failures, consistent drive killing penalties, the lack of a posession receiver, a down year in the red zone for the first TE and lack of trust in the other weapons… You have an extremely predictive Offense.
Is that all the fault of the Offensive Coordinator? I’m more willing to blame Garrett, the OLine for their inconsistencies, Williams for sucking, Austin, Crayton and Witten for some drops, and the Front Office for not being able to do something to make things better.
Apparently, they’re trying to solve some of the problems, and I guess that we will see, the future success of the Franchise depends on how right they were.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
One thing I found glaringly absent was the dearth of points scored. What’s your take on that?
Look at Romo’s completion % inside the 10. It was ~44% compared to ~63% overall.
The passing game was unusally unproductive inside the 10 in 2009.
However, in 2008 Romo’s completion % inside the 10 was better than his completion % overall (73% vs. 61%)
Hence, I think the correct explanation is randomness (i.e. nothing more than luck, some years teams will have a bunch of poor red zone plays simply through bad luck). I expect the offense to produce normal red zone performace this year simply due to mean reversion.
there’s further discussion of the point about 40 comments down in this thread
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2010/3/17/1332995/inside-the-numbers-the-2009#32771554
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jul 17, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
What about runs inside the 10?
Are any of those #’s telling?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
That's blaming a lot of people for a lot of failures
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I didnt think it was blaming as much as sincere evaluations.
As soon as someone gives reasons someone else points the finger and say excuses. You cant fix what you dont acknowledge.
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Then you didn't read it...
Here’s the quote;
I’m more willing to blame Garrett, the OLine for their inconsistencies, Williams for sucking, Austin, Crayton and Witten for some drops, and the Front Office for not being able to do something to make things better.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
This is more like it Chandus
Well posted. I think if I were to try to nutshell my discontent with Garrett, it would be towards his inability to get defenses to declare. With the 3-4 becoming ever more prominent, stunts/blitzes are becoming much more complex to the point that a well disguised and executed stunt generally will beat any Oline or blocking scheme. That’s what they’re designed to do…..get the numbers in the defenses favor. It’s too much I think in todays’ game to expect any Oline and other “blockers” to properly assess disguises and adjust to them time after time with the windows of time to do so also getting shorter and shorter. Pretty tough for the QB too, for that matter. It leaves you in a dictated to, rather than dictating to, position. That’s where a good coordinator and game caller comes in. A good one doesn’t just leave it in his players hands to always have to make the best decision or always out execute the opposition. What did Jimmy Johnson say…. " A good coach puts his playmakers in position to make plays". I just don’t sense that we’re getting that from Garrett very consistently. It often seems to me, he calls the play and just counts on the talent to pull it through. And that’s been a good way to go….but, not a championship way to go.
And that might be the case...
but I’m not sure if you can tell that over a television.
What kind of position can you do to help your offensive line if they are getting beat inside and outside? Throw two tightends and a RB in the backfield?
And while you definitly are supposed to put your best players in the best way to make plays, there has to be some point that players take personal responsibility.
I find it hard to believe that some of the offensive lineman that were making mental mistakes when Bill was here are still making them and it’s due mainly because of Garrett’s scheme.
The only part of what you say that I totally disagree with is…
It’s too much I think in todays’ game to expect any Oline and other "blockers" to properly assess disguises and adjust to them time after time with the windows of time to do so also getting shorter and shorter.
I don’t think there is a team in the league that doesn’t expect that. These guys get paid for more than just their strength and speed. Even Walsh’s Niners who dictated to the defense, their offensive line had to make adjustments at the line of scrimmage, so did the QB, and the WRs.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jul 17, 2010 7:33 AM CDT up reply actions
You're dead on
in regards to the television comment. Particularly live TV, at least. But, Tivo/DVR and a wilingness to obsess( HaHa) can reveal a lot about the trenches. Also, please don’t think my knocks against Garrett means I dismiss player responsibility in all this. I certainly don’t. I’m just saying a good coach can help in negating some player shortcomings (subjectively…the Oline) and Garrett struggles in this. It’s not like his line just sucks and there’s not adequate enough talent elsewhere on that offense to have prevented some of the throw up moments that have happened during his stay. I know a lot of people disagree with me in assessing the Oline in the Minny game, but I stand by the opinion that 4/5 of the line were solid ( actually, 5/6 as it were). I blame someone, I’m not sure who, for Colombo even being in there. But, do I blame Garrett for Colombos’ suckness? Of course not. But, I do blame him for allowing 1 facet ( albeit, an important facet ) essentially deciding the game. What’s more, there’s no way that game should’ve been so putrid. We get beat? OK, I can live with that ( sort of). But…….3 points! Come on. Sorry to harp yet again on that game, it’s just the freshest wound and easiest to recall given my old aged memory. So……what would I like to see from JG? More spread, more play action, more bootlegs, more Felix downfield in the passing game ( though I know he isn’t exactly Marshall Faulk in this capacity). And most importantly, see these things more on 1st and 2nd down, and in the red zone. Keep in mind, I’m not talking huge, wholesale amounts of this stuff. But enough to make defenses decide just how risky they want to be.
That's an interesting comment
I know a lot of people disagree with me in assessing the Oline in the Minny game, but I stand by the opinion that 4/5 of the line were solid ( actually, 5/6 as it were).
I can remember a statistic that was shown in the 3rd Qtr or very early in the 4th, the stat was QB hits and that stat for Romo read something like 17.
I’m guessing that we can agree that Colombo wasn’t guilty of all 17… Kosier looked quite helpless in a lot of snaps against Kevin Williams… Free tried to help him more than once, which left Allen against Witten in more than one snap… Gurode and Davis looked lost and extremely slow to react against some of the Vikings twists, stunts and blitzes… Obviously, Colombo looked awful and was easily the worst Lineman in the game, but the other guys around Romo weren’t very helpful.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Of course
Colombo wasn’t guilty of causing all 17 QB hits. First of all, an immense challenge was there going in, as that Vikings front is waaay good. Secondly, I see a lot of those hits on Romo as a result of the Oline simply having to hold blocks too long against a very good defense, because all too often, only 2 receivers, sometimes 3 including a TE were running into the teeth of bracket, zone coverage requiring Romo to hold the ball, scramble, etc. I felt the line did a pretty decent job at the point of attack, but they had to stay engaged too long and the twists/stunts kept coming, not to mention Romo often being flushed from the edges into the interior pursuit. That’s why I wanted to see Garrett try some of the things I mentioned above. At least attempt to bust that zone stuff and maybe get some slants and curls going to get the ball out of Romos’ hand. Having said all that, please note I’m not disputing there were times the line straight got thier a** kicked. LOL
I didn't see that
Romo was typically (but not always) under pressure from the snap. What I saw wa sa line that was simply overpowered.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Ok, seeing how
I’m in the minority concerning our line ( not only in this forum, but in my daily affairs) maybe it’s time I just concede that I’m plain wrong about the line. In doing so, I wonder, if we stay with the Vikings game ( and others like it I guess) and maybe treat it as kind of a microcosm and consider it established that the line just straight sucked, is it your position that there’s just nothing else Garrett could’ve done?
Garrett could have done something Stargazer
I believe he could have made it a priority to make sure that Olinemen are drafted higher than what we consistently see year in and year out. Grant it, that doesn’t mean that the Olinemen drafted would all work out, but you can’t stop trying to draft talent either .The Max Unger debacle is a signal of the mindset of the Hierarchy, and Garrett has to be in the epicenter of that. if he isn’t , then that further would make me loose respect for him.
I would gain alot of respect for Garrett if there was some sort of article that was written about Garrett voicing his need for Olinemen to Jerry, and Jerry overruling him and just drafting a different position and just plain going after something else. But for some reason, i don’t believe that to be the case. I believe Garrett himself to be of the mindset that he believes the Oline is fine, and I hope my hunch is wrong, and I hope i am proven wrong, but if he is of that mindset, then i will quote you stargazer…“it’s a good way to go….just not a championship way to go.”
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by DallasPalace on Jul 18, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes,
wouldn’t you just love to be a fly on the wall at the vaious Cowboy environments to witness the actual pecking orders of particular facets of the organization. Specifically, whose opinion holds the most water in any given situation.
by stargazer33 on Jul 18, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I checked this out, so I'm confortable saying it...
Garrett is not a scout, the head coach, owner or GM. Like all other NFL teams run it, he gets input but no “say so” in who is drafted and acquired trhough FA. He’s about fourth or fifth in line to voice an opinion on draft day. So your blame is misplaced.
And BTW, I don’t disagree at all that not bringing in new, high-potential linemen over the past four or five years is a bad decision. I just think it’s Jones’ approach and Garrett is left to work around it.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Wait a minute Dunkman Sir
are you perchance saying that Garrett not an offensive coordinator? Here is at least how I view the workings of the mechanism, or at least how I believe it should be:
The offensive coordinator sees a weakness, he should want to adress it, so he goes to the owner, who in turn does something about it.
I have never said that Garrett is at fault for not drafting anyone, since as you say dunk, he is not a scout, head coach, owner or GM.
But the real question about the situation is this:
If Garrett has made a request of Jerry to go after offensive line prospects and Jerry has not obliged, or…
Garrett has not made a strong enough case/request of Jerry to adress the problem.
As a fan, you are left with the understanding of believeing one or the other. Personally, i believe the latter. Why you ask? easy..
Garrett comes from a pass oriented background. he has never treated the run with the importance of the pass, and probably never will. The nature of todays game is almost totally pass oriented.
I also can’t believe that Jerry, if asked, would not acknowledge a problem and go about doing something about it. He is not the best owner in football/sports for no reason. He does care about his team. THAT is why I believe the latter.
As far as Garrett is concerned, I think he just believes too much in the coaches under him that the run will work out itself. I’m not sold that his run offense is good enough to help the offense do what it’s supposed to to ANY opposing defense, including the Vikings.
That is why I believe this is bound to happen again. “This” being consisitent pressure on Romo when we play the good defenses in the playoffs.I am not a pessimist, just speaking truthfully. It has nothing to do with blame. And if you don’t believe me Dunkman, go read my past posts. 95 percent of my posts have to do with Garrett and the run offense of the Dallas Cowboys. it’s a touchy subject with me. Why? Because I believe that fixing the problem there will bring the Lombardi trophy. So far, 4yrs in the Garrett era, very little has been done about the Oline and the run offense….very little. this is my opinion.
“When all else fails, pass!”
That’s what being enamored with the pass in a pass-oriented league has brought about with the Cowboys. This kind of thinking does not help promote a solid run offense, just a successful one.
What will you say after next years draft and no Olinemen are drafted until 4th round or later? I hope you don’t say that Jerry is just that way. You should know better.
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by DallasPalace on Jul 19, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Taking OLineman for the sake of taking OLineman...
No matter if it’s a reach.
Considering the history of reaches for positions in need with our team, are you still arguing in favor of reaching? Let’s recapitulate: Drew Henson, Jacob Rogers, Antonio Bryant, Quincy Carter, Tony Dixon, Joey Galloway, Dwayne Goodrich, Ebenezer Ekuban, David LaFleur, Kavika Pittman and Shante Carver, among several others not picked in the first 3 Rounds…
You should be grateful that they’re making a solid work in their charts and that they’re sticking to their work, without getting desperate due to their needs.
That’s how you end up with awful drafts.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
I am happy with what they drafted
I’m jsut unhappy with what they didn’t. For the past several years they have made virtually no effort to churn the line and I think it has weakened a team that otherwise could steamroll into the playoffs.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
We share the same opinion
Considering the current track record of the people in charge of the Drafts, it’s hard to argue that they aren’t making a really good job, but it’s a shame they haven’t been in position to take quite a few OLineman prospects…
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
I agree with you 100 percent Chandus
But that is my point in a nutshell. Every player you draft is a potential failure or success. The real issue is this: Why are the Cowboys ignoring drafting players on the O-line until past the 3rd round?
I would politely pose this question: Has there been any interest in any of the top Oline prospects the past few years? Feels like the Cowboys do not, or shy awau from drafting high round Olinemen because of the failures of past regimes (Parcells), rather than take a chance on a top prospect. Sooner or later, This will become the real question to any Cowboy fan that has watched the team the last few years.
I hope Doug Free and Robert Brewster both do well this year.
"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"
by DallasPalace on Jul 19, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, they've been interested...
But they’re sticking to their charts, they won’t take a 2nd Round prospect in the 1st just because of fear that the prospect won’t be there in the 2nd… Just like they won’t do it in the subsequent rounds…
Sure, such tactics are leaving the Cowboys with probably the oldest OLine in the League and their inconsistencies are nerve wrecking, but I can’t be really upset that they’re sticking to the work that takes them the biggest part of the offseason, with really good results.
Some of the players that the Cowboys liked (out of leaked information from the top of my head) in the past few years that were taken right before the Cowboys picks: Iupati, Pouncey, Bulaga, Saffold, Unger, Colledge and Chris Spencer.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
That list Chandus
leads me to make a statement regarding them, and “almost” picking them.
The Cowboys always seem to be a bridesmaid, and never a bride.
I understand that the Cowboys don’t “reach”, and “stick to they’re board” as everyone puts it. But if year in year out the linemen you want keep getting plucked right before you pick, you would think that you would have a plan around that and do something about it if you really wanted to.
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by DallasPalace on Jul 20, 2010 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
The problem is that Jerry tried, as far as I know (from leaked info), to trade up in order to select Colledge and Unger, but he either found no takers or people asking for a King’s ransom.
I’m also upset that the Cowboys haven’t found a way to improve the level of play along the OLine or at least a way to improve it’s age… But I can’t fault them for sticking to their board, that’s the way in which you build championship teams.
For example, look at the Colts. In both of the previous drafts, they knew that they had a LT need, they weren’t happy with Ugoh and Charlie Johnson (6th Round) was the only guy behind him… Think about that for a second, a weak LT in the most prominent passing team… That’s a huge need… And they responded by taking a couple of UFA in Cadogan and Tyshovnytsky…
Why? Because in the Draft they trust their charts, they’ve built a winner with them.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
I think we agree that the line is this team's weak link
I waqs pretty p***d off about the draft, for example.
My guess is that the coaches discuss what they perceive as weaknesses and they outlined this to Jones. But the team not only scouts college players and NFL players, they scout their own team and those recomendations all make it to Stephen and Jerry to prioritize. Then in the draft room, all the coaches get their chance to weigh in as the pick or trade is being considered.
It’s my opinion (and it’s shaky because I only base it on what Jones has said from time to time) that Jerry is going to try the cheap route with some positions going foward – kicker, safety, OL.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I think stargazer33
You put into words the best way I feel about Garrett. Another way to put it is “frustrating”. I’m not happy with him because a good coordinator will sit there and scheme and plot a masterful chessgame with the D-coordinator. You have to know what to expect, and set traps. Somehow, even though I feel the offensive talent and I see alot of good play, I don’t feel a mastermind at work. And trust me, that bothers me. Especially when I think that since the last time we won the super bowl against Pitt, they have won twice…..
"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"
by DallasPalace on Jul 18, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Ahhh yes
The ol’ chess match. I definitely feel ya on that. I too, have encountered that nagging sense of JG having just been outsmarted.
by stargazer33 on Jul 18, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm happy just to see him improving...
My biggest problem with him was getting lost in games…getting away from things that were working or sticking with stuff that wasn’t…but i feel like its becoming less often..so..thats all i can hope for…
I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....
by hashishkabob on Jul 17, 2010 7:03 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I would also like to say
Being that I’m not a football expert by any means, I often find myself feeling a little sheepish about any critiques, observations, predictions, or suggestions I throw out there. I’m greatly aware there’s a darn good chance that if I were in JGs’ shoes, I could find myself dead wrong. So, I think from now on, rather than say Jason Garrett should do this or do that……I should probably say……I would like to see JG fairly try this idea or that idea. That seems a bit less comical. LOL. Still, isn’t it fun to try on the various hats?
Nice post. And it is definitely hard to know whether it's JG or a lack of execution.
Raf made a great case last year for execution when we were talking about the game (can’t remember which it was) when the offense couldn’t get into the end zone in four run plays. I have no stats to support this, but I do get the feeling that JG is fully capable of coming up with good game plans, but he has trouble making adjustments when he has one that isn’t working. Any ideas on that? Again, it’s more a feeling, and nothing I can support.
Romo and Offense
need to perfect the quick hitting pass play, whether to the outside or the quick slant . . . this minimizes the need for a deep drop and helps protect Romo . . . I would think this would help the oline and give the offense a tool against the stunting defensive pressure . . . Dallas has mastered the trap run play, and has gotten a bit better at the screens . . . now if Felix can stay healthy so the offense can rely upon his quickness and, if Dez and Miles and Ogletree etc can help open the quick passing game, I think this will do wonders for the oline and help keep Romo healthy.
Good point Iowa
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by DallasPalace on Jul 18, 2010 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Jason Garrette is a very good coach
and will one day be a famous head coach of Dallas. Good coaches don’t suddenly turn bad
I'd like to believe that
but there are alot of good coaches Austonianaggie. Us Cowboy fans are a spoiled lot though….we have consistently had GREAT coaches to the point of feeling the dropoff when all of a sudden all we have is a Good Coach…..
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by DallasPalace on Jul 18, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe that also Lonewolf
It really does work both ways. I’m not saying that because I’m trying to knock Wade.
Heck, Wade is pretty agressive on D, who you kidding?
I just mean that Coach Joe has that demeanor. So did Avezzano by the way….
It’s not fear- it’s fear of failure. If you put that kind of fear into a player, that’s how you build a championship Team.
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got a couple of questions..
hopefully theres no lockout next year.
what o-linemen are going to be available through free-agency?
would the cowboys use their first 2 picks on the o-line?
thanks..
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
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