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Points Per Pass Metric, 2009 Season (All QBs)

It’s old news now, but I’ll post anyway.  The last two years I tracked the efficiency of all NFL quarterbacks using my passing offense metric.  See below for an explanation of the statistical details:  It's the same text I've posted the last two years.

After a very average 2008 season, Romo bounced back to record the highest observed point per pass value of any starting quarterback in Cowboys history.  However, it was not the greatest season by a starting quarterback in Cowboys history, because other Cowboys quarterbacks have turned in better seasons relative to the rest of the league.  In particular, Roger Staubach played almost all of his career in a league where passing was obscenely difficult, whereas Romo is playing in an era when passing efficiency is at an all-time high.  Still, what Romo accomplished was impressive.  His 2009 season was easily the best of his career, far surpassing his 2006 season and reversing two straight years of decline.

Background on my Point Per Pass Metric:

I've been using a passing offense metric for many years now to gauge how well a QB is doing.  Inspired by baseball SABRmetrician Bill James, I performed linear regressions of NFL statistics and concluded from a big picture point of view, only two statistics mattered:  Yards gained from scrimmage, and turnovers.  The best fit to matching points scored came when assuming the following coefficients:

Ten yards gained from scrimmage = +1.0 points; and
One turnover lost = -6.0 points.

Simply put, teams that score points rack up yardage and don't commit turnovers.  Note how powerful turnovers are:  A team can, for example, gain 55 yards of offense, but if they turn it over the next play, they actually ended up hurting their team.

With that in mind, I created the points per pass metric, which calculates the effectiveness of quarterbacks.  I consider it a better measure of quarterback performance than the official NFL rankings, since it weighs the value of fumbles, and has direct ties to points scored.  The above two coefficients are used to determine, on average, how many points a quarterback (and his offensive teammates, since everyone else contributes to his success or failure) creates with each passing attempt.  It takes the simple yards per attempt metric we're all familiar with, adjusts it for sacks, and further adjusts it for turnovers.  One interception equates to minus six points; one fumble equates to minus three points.  I treat fumbles as half a turnover, since there's essentially a 50/50 chance of recovering or losing a fumble.  The results will probably be unsurprising for the most part, but sometimes they can appear odd.  One of the things that may cause these oddities are fumbles.  Most people, when looking over a QB's stat line, don't think about fumbles; they just look at yardage, attempts, touchdowns, interceptions, and maybe sacks.  But fumbles are very important, since they are essentially half a turnover.

This season I have included not only the raw points per pass value, as I have in seasons past, but also the normalized value, by dividing the raw result by the league average.  Therefore, an average quarterback will have a normalized value of 1.00, and an above average quarterback will have a value greater than 1.00.  A rigorous statistician would have done research to make sure the mean or average is an appropriate normalizing factor—as opposed to the median, quartile or something else—but time has been at a premium for me this year, so the mean will have to do for now.

Revisiting a Prediction of Romo’s Career Trajectory:

At the end of last season, I compared Romo to the most-similar group of NFL quarterbacks and noted this group underwent a long-term process of performance decline from their mid- to late-twenties until their early thirties.  In particular, every one of the comparison QBs declined at the age of 29.  This group was unusual, as most quarterbacks improve until their late twenties, then decline thereafter.  However, Romo broke the mold with his sterling 2009 season.  I did recognize back then that the most-similar group to Romo did experience one-year reversals of their several year decline, so he may not be out of the woods yet, although his normalized score of 1.54 was the highest of any of the comparison group.  Was this just a one-year fluke, or has Romo turned a corner in his career?  I’d like to think the latter, but the ghost of 2008 could always come back to haunt us.  Let’s hope.

In any event, Romo’s interception percentage has improved with each year in the league.  From a high of 3.9% in 2006, he dropped slightly to 3.7% in 2007, to 3.1% in 2008, to a magnificent 1.5% last season.  This is obviously cause for encouragement, as turnovers are the most important statistic in football.

Notes on the rest of the league:

  • The league average last season dipped slightly to 0.397, a modest reversal from 2008, which was the highest value since the 1970 merger.  The long-term trend is clear, however:  Passing efficiency has been improving over the last four decades, and I see no reason for that trend to reverse.
  • None of the rookie quarterbacks turned in a season worthy of note, after Ryan and Flacco, turned in outstanding rookie seasons last year.  Flacco improved on his 2008 season, while Ryan turned in a decent but not exceptional performance.
  • The Brett Favre rollercoaster continues.  Washed up in 2005, rejuvenated in 2007, an embarrassment in 2008, only to turn in by my measures his best season ever in 2009.  Given how erratic his seasons have become, anyone want to bet he’ll have another good year at the age of 41?
  • As I predicted last year, the best quarterback in the NFL is now Phillip Rivers, a crown I expect him to wear for the next few years.
  • Peyton Manning was fortunate to win his fourth MVP award.  I don’t begrudge him for it, as I think he will be remembered as the greatest quarterback in league history, but clearly he and Brady are in decline and Rivers is now reaching his peak.
  • The Eagles were probably right to let Donvan McNabb go.  At 33, he is declining and his health is a growing concern, although he is the greatest quarterback in Eagles history.  His 2009 season was another very good one, and his career resume is almost worthy of a Canton induction.  While I think Kolb will be a good quarterback, and next season he will probably be better than McNabb would have been had he stayed, I don’t know that Kolb will be in the same league as McNabb in his prime.  This will be an interesting season to watch for both the Redskins and Eagles.
  • For those who recall my discussions from the two last years, I noticed Drew Brees alternated excellent seasons with not-so-good years, and expected 2009 to be one of his off seasons.  However, he went against form and turned in his second best season since his incredible 2006 season.  Given his age and his strange cyclical career pattern, I expect him and the Saints to decline next season.
  • Many BTB posters doubted Aaron Rogers would be a good quarterback, but he’s turning into one of the best quarterbacks in the league.  Might we see a return to the days of the 1960’s, when the Cowboys and Packers slugged it out for league supremacy?  We can only hope…

The 2009 Rankings:

As I did at the end of last season, I ranked the quarterbacks by efficiency in three groups, based on the number of passing attempts:

  • Those with at least 160 attempts;
  • Those with less than 160, but at least 30 attempts; and
  • Those with less than 30 attempts.

 

Regular Starting Quarterbacks:

Name, Team PPP Normalized
Rivers, SD 0.66 1.66
Brees, NO 0.62 1.55
Favre, Min 0.62 1.55
Romo, Dal 0.61 1.54
Brady, NE 0.60 1.50
Schaub, Hou 0.60 1.50
Manning, Ind 0.59 1.48
Rogers, GB 0.58 1.45
Roethlisberger, Pit 0.55 1.38
McNabb, Phi 0.50 1.26
Orton, Den 0.49 1.24
Manning, NYG 0.48 1.20
Flacco, Bal 0.46 1.15
Warner, Ari 0.45 1.13
Young, Ten 0.44 1.11
Garrard, Jax 0.42 1.06
Palmer, Cin 0.39 0.98
Ryan, Atl 0.39 0.98
Bulger, StL 0.38 0.96
Campbell, Was 0.37 0.93
Henne, Mia 0.37 0.92
Smith, SF 0.36 0.90
Quinn, Cle 0.29 0.72
Hasselbeck, Sea 0.28 0.71
Edwards, Buf 0.28 0.71
Collins, Ten 0.28 0.70
Cutler, Chi 0.28 0.70
Fitzpatrick, Buf 0.24 0.61
Cassel, KC 0.24 0.61
Stafford, Det 0.19 0.49
Sanchez, NYJ 0.19 0.48
Boller, StL 0.19 0.47
Delhomme, Car 0.17 0.42
Freeman, TB 0.12 0.30
Russell, Oak 0.05 0.14
Anderson, Cle 0.03 0.08



Quarterbacks with between 159 and 30 attempts:

Name, Team PPP Normalized
Moore, Car 0.54 1.36
Kolb, Phi 0.48 1.20
Redman, Atl 0.42 1.06
Gradkowski, Oak 0.38 0.95
Hill, SF 0.36 0.91
Frye, Oak 0.33 0.82
Leftwich, TB 0.32 0.82
Wallace, Sea 0.29 0.72
Leinart, Ari 0.27 0.68
Pennington,  Mia 0.21 0.54
Culpepper, Det 0.21 0.53
Johnson, TB -0.05 -0.12
Nuill, StL -0.11 -0.28
Stanton, Det -0.28 -0.71

 

 

Quarterbacks with less than 30 attempts:

Name, Team PPP Normalized
Jackson, Min 0.96 2.41
Batch, Pit 0.85 2.14
Vick, Phi 0.66 1.66
Volek, SD 0.53 1.34
Carr, NYG 0.53 1.32
Croyle, KC 0.43 1.09
Hoyer, NE 0.43 1.08
Dixon, Pit 0.33 0.82
Collins, Was 0.29 0.73
Clemens, NYJ 0.15 0.37
Brunell, NO 0.14 0.35
Brohm, Buf 0.06 0.15
Losman, Oak 0.00 0.00
McCown, Car -0.06 -0.14
Flynn, GB -0.06 -0.15
McCown, Jax -0.10 -0.25
White, Mia -0.15 -0.38
O'Sullivan, Cin -0.36 -0.92
Painter, Ind -0.36 -0.92
Smith, Bal -0.40 -1.01
Thigpen, Mia -0.46 -1.16
Simms, Den -0.48 -1.21
Grossman, Hou -0.63 -1.59
Hanie, Chi -0.70 -1.76
St. Pierre, Ari -1.95 -4.91

Another user-created commentary provided by a BTB reader.

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thats alot of info to take in...

Thanks for the post….

I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....

by hashishkabob on Jul 18, 2010 4:48 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Not so fast on Phillip Rivers

Without McNeill and Vincent Jackson, that team will run a lot more than they have the last few years.

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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Jul 18, 2010 7:47 PM CDT reply actions  

I Doubt It Will Matter

In 2008 the San Diego offensive line went from one of the best to mediocre, and his best receiver, Antonio Gates played poor because of injuries. Rivers play still took a quantum leap forward from a normalized value of 0.99 to 1.44. He upped it again this year.

And if they do run more as you suspect, that would only reduce the tendency of opposing defenses to play the pass—making his efficiency all the better.

by kindablue on Jul 19, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Look for Gates, Floyd, Sproles, Matthews, Nanee, Tolbert, and the rest of team to pick up the slack for Jackson.

Never underestimate the power of a neck brace and wheelchair. In Donnie Walsh I trust!

by Rohpuri on Jul 20, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Be careful about underestimating the value of skill players, especially receivers, for QBs

I’ve never taken a long, hard look at this, but where I have looked the results were striking:

 - Tony Romo really struggled in 3 of our 1st 4 games last year before Miles Austin became a starter…and his one good game was against TB, about the worst team in football playing their first real game for a rookie head coach.

- Look at the with Moss / w/o Moss splits for all 3 Vikings QBs – Cunningham, Jeff George, and Culpepper. All had huge performance gains and drop offs. Cunningham’s QB rating jumped 35 pts the year Moss arrived, while Culpepper’s dropped 39 pts. the year after he left.

- When Kyle Orton and Jay Cutler switched teams the QB stats were impacted much more then the teams or their respective skill players.

- Even Favre’s resurgences can be linked in no small part to skill players – with Greg Jennings and Ryan Grant emerging in his last year with GB, and the Vikings having vastly superior skill players to the Jets.

QB is certainly the single most important player on a team…but I think that most of us overvalue the QB relative to the coaching schemes and supporting cast because it’s a simpler equation not because it’s a more accurate one.

by Left Coast Cowboy on Jul 21, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree WIth You

But when you look at Rivers’ development under the circumstances, I am pretty confident he will be the league’s best QB for next few years. Vincent Jackson is a good receiver, but he’s not Randy Moss. Similarly, the situations with Orton and Cutler have as much to do with the systems they are in rather than the quarterback’s talent. My belief is Rivers is not in the same class as the other two—he will be in the same tier as Brady and Manning if he’s not already, and that he’s in an offensive system that is as good as any in the league in making a quarterback succeed.

So, in general I agree with you, but I think Rivers is an exceptional talent. Otherwise, he would have regressed in 2008, when everything was falling apart around him, instead of becoming one of the best.

by kindablue on Jul 21, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

On to real topics now.....KindaBlue, your stats make sense and work.

How do I know?? Becasue they pass the eye test.
Draw a line after Roethlisberger at .55, and the group above absolutely are the top echelon of QB’s.
Did we need stats to tell us that ?!? No! Our eyes and Brains already did.

But they are fun, and it probably feels good to come up with your own metric that actually works! Nice job!

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on Jul 19, 2010 12:13 AM CDT reply actions  

Any concern about Omitted Variable Bias?

It’d be interesting to see a list of all the different factors you considered when considering how to evaluate a QB’s performance (that is, which measures had the strongest correlation to points scored). Quality of supporting cast, for instance, might factor in, perhaps in the form of Yards After Catch (versus Yards in the Air on QB passes), which are less directly the result of a QB’s individual performance.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Jul 25, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow this is a great post.

Im surprised that Mcnabb is where he is. Actually I guess im more surprised about Big Ben Beating him out. I figured the rest of the people ahead of McNabb would be there just not Ben.
Kolb May throw ridiculous yardage next season but Phillys INT total might double. Which is a scary thought.
Fantastic post though

UDDDDAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!

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E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!!!!!!

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by Udalango on Jul 19, 2010 1:18 AM CDT reply actions  

one thing McNabb was awesome at

was not throwing picks. The interesting thing is that Romo threw less last year.

I’m curious to see your new qb in action.

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by HudBaby on Jul 19, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Philly's picks may more than double

the two things McNabb was great at are the deep ball and not turning it over. To me, Kolb is the opposite. You will have more turnovers, but your offense (it may take a year or two) will look better overall.

by foyesboys on Jul 25, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well you are the first Cowboys fan I have talked to that

Says we may be better off

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by Udalango on Aug 1, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely awesome stuff.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Jul 19, 2010 2:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks for the Kudos, Gents

I wasn’t expecting that much attention, and I certainly wasn’t expecting any recommendations.

by kindablue on Jul 19, 2010 6:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Question

What’s the adjustment for sacks?

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jul 21, 2010 7:56 AM CDT reply actions  

This post has to win for the highest ratio of Rec's to Comments ever

I guess it was so good there was nothing left to say KindaBlue!

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on Jul 21, 2010 1:05 PM CDT reply actions  

I Have No Idea

Why it’s getting so many recommendations. Strange.

by kindablue on Jul 21, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

OCC used his blog powers to hyper-rec it

he’s a sucker for a good stats piece.

Actually Larry pretty much said it – it jives pretty well with what most of think we see on the field.

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by dunkman on Jul 22, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like this post too. Good job.

It’s obvious for me to state that Tony Romo’s improved stats coincide with a noticeable increase in maturity on several levels.

This obvious statement, though, is really encouraging to me! Tony has the capacity to listen, process, and change. That’s not always the case with our heroes.

Evidence:

-He speaks to media differently. He sounds more like Troy did when he was still playing. I heard an interview the other day where afterward, the interviewer said “wow, he didn’t tell us anything.” Remember when everyone loved to interview Tony because he’d be so honest, and openly opine about anything. This is a good change imo!

-He’s keeping his private life to himself. Maybe more coaching from Troy.

-He has grown into a team leader.

-He changed his own philosophy about being a gun slinging QB and about the importance of interceptions. I love that kind of humility. He’s actually willing to receive advice, see where his thinking is unproductive and change it. You guys remember the “interception is like a punt” comment. What a change!

Tony has changed and his game is reflecting those changes. I applaud him.

by soccer style on Jul 21, 2010 4:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Great Post KB, rec'd

Really like this metric as it’s both simple and insightful.

Some extensions/refinements that came to mind are:
1) Using Net Yards per Pass Attempt rather than Passing Yards per Passing Play – to account for both negative yards from sacks and positive yards from scrambles. You could also weight the sack yards more heavily as I’m sure negative/positive yards don’t trade off 1/1 (also guessing there’s a conversion for this, like EPV, already out there).

2) Modifying how you score Fumbles – to account for both:

  • Variation in fumbles lost – since QBs seem to have some control over this (e.g. Peyton Manning loses less than 1 in 3 fumbles, and Romo’s loss rate has dropped by half in his last two years compared to his first two).
  • Fumbles being worse than INTs on avg. – OCC covered this in post using EPV to compare the two…main difference is the average QB fumble occurs behind the line of scrimmage whereas INTs are usually downed in front of it. The avg. diff might be 2-3 pts. using your 10 yrds = 1 pt. system.

Great system as it stands, though, thanks for taking the time to share it!

by Left Coast Cowboy on Jul 21, 2010 7:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Good Ideas

My system already includes net passing yards instead of gross yards, and includes sacks in the number of attempts. I do have secondary metrics called pure points per pass, which only looks at those plays where a pass is thrown, and net points per play, which weighs in rushing attempts. I’ve decided for now to use the system that ignore rushing attempts because I think clouds the picture of how good the quarterback is. Really good quarterbacks generate lots of points scored, which means they are more likely to he leading late in a good or half, which means the quarterback’s rushing attempts include many kneeldowns which lower his points per pass average (conversely, I believe but cannot prove there is a strong relationship between scrambling and poor quarterbacking, so including all those 15-yard scrambles would inflate the statistics of the bad QBs, but that’s just speculation on my part). So I agree with you on the sacks—they’re already included—but am holding off on scrambles until I am convinced there is a good correlation between it and a good quarterback.

Likewise, I’ve resisted showing a variation in fumble recovery rates for two reasons. The first is because I haven’t had the time to study that statistic to know whether fumble recoveries are truly random or are subject to some sort of consistent behavior. The second is because I like to keep things simple to make the model robust. There is a natural tendency to try and keep refining things, but the problem is additional refinements usually come at the cost of greater complexity. I always try to weigh whether that marginal improvement in accuracy is worth the effort, and so far I’ve decided with having individual player fumble recovery rates it isn’t.

That said, you may be on to something. One can use a binomial random variable to model what the odds are that Manning would lose 17 of 54 career fumbles, if losing fumbles were in fact random. In other words, what are the odds that Manning loses 37 of 54 fumbles, given the percentage of losing is 50%? It’s the same odds of flipping a coin 54 times and having it come up heads 17 times. If you do the binomial calculation, the odds are small, about 0.4%. So with Peyton, I would be inclined to say it’s not random. Whether one can generalize from that to every other quarterback is another matter, but you’ve made a strong argument that it may not be just chance at play.

You definitely got me thinking with your post. Well done.

by kindablue on Jul 21, 2010 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Could one easily check how Tony's performance varies in night games versus day games?

He’s had a wild variation in night games for his career— his two worst games (Wk 2 in 2009, and the Buffalo MNF game) and also some of his best. I would guess you could do it via dummy variables?

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Jul 25, 2010 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Late in the game... but great stuff. Rec'd it hard Kindblue.

AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.

Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.

by Iron Fist on Jul 21, 2010 7:47 PM CDT reply actions  

I really like the stats and the writeup

but Manning was freakin AWESOME last year. There were games he had to play absolutely perfect to win (the dolphins game comes to mind) and he did. He picked apart the Jets D (best in the league) in the playoffs while Rivers struggled.

Meanwhile, the Chargers consistently run up the score against underwhelming competition. Throughout the season. Seemingly every season. They’ve taken advantage of a weak division for years now. Now compare that to Romo.

The one thing that you don’t take into account is red zone success – it is much harder to throw for a yard there than between the 20s. My GUESS is that Manning shines in this area while other qbs on this list (ie Romo) do not.

by foyesboys on Jul 25, 2010 3:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Good Observation

The system does not account for the strength of passing defenses faced. When I have more time, I’ll look into how best to normalize for that. With graduate school starting in a little over a month, that won’t be for awhile.

Accounting for red zone performance is tricky, and opens up a interminable long debate on player performance in crucial situations. To do that, I would need to collect statistically significant data to conclude that given quarterbacks perform better in the red zone than others, and by how much. That in itself is a major undertaking, and from the anecdotal data I’ve seen, not worth the effort. If Manning is great one year but slips the next, am I measuring something meaningful, or just chasing my tail through normal randomness in the data? As I mentioned to Left Coast Cowboy above, I am very cautious about adding complexity just to account for some possible missing feature. I know for a fact that yards for scrimmage and turnovers by themselves can explain the overwhelming reasons why team win and lose. As such, my model, while apparently simplistic simple, is robust and well-grounded in reality. I’ll only incorporate new features if a) the sound statistical basis of its importance can be clearly shown and b) it doesn’t make the model overly complex. The red zone addition you are proposing seems reasonable at first glance, but creates implications that could hurt the model. So for now, I’m leaving it out.

by kindablue on Jul 25, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't waste too much time

Brian Burke has already investigated the matter.

His conclusion: “My theory is that the very same abilities that lead to success in the other 80 yards of the football field also lead to success inside the 20. It appears that despite all analysis to the contrary, there is nothing special about any particular quarterback’s ability inside the red zone as compared to outside the 20.”

by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 25, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks, OCC!

Great article. It confirmed what I’d believed based on watching games. The author was also knowledgeable enough to apply t-tests to see whether observed differences in performance were statistically significant. Bonus!

When it comes to Cowboys statistics, you truly are the man.

by kindablue on Jul 25, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

interesting

even though I hate the idea of using completion % as a standard, there really isn’t a good one in the red zone. Completion % relies a lot on the plays called. A bubble screen is a very different throw than the fade.

It seems due to small sample size that it is impossible to determine what is a “significant” difference. Also, while looking through some different players performances (ie Romo and Manning as stated above), there are not huge differences in red zone play statistically.

I’ll just use Romo as an example for this point – It would be interesting to look at this in a 3 year time period – I know that in 2007 ad 2009, Romo’s play was worse compared to the mean in the red zone than he was outside the red zone. If this was true in 08 (I don’t recall), you could probably make point that Romo’s play is consistently worse. 3 years gives a much better sample size than 1.

by foyesboys on Jul 28, 2010 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Statistically Speaking

“For those who recall my discussions from the two last years, I noticed Drew Brees alternated excellent seasons with not-so-good years, and expected 2009 to be one of his off seasons. However, he went against form and turned in his second best season since his incredible 2006 season. Given his age and his strange cyclical career pattern, I expect him and the Saints to decline next season.”

In the 4 years Brees has played for the Saints, his worst year was 2007.

2006 Comp Per 64.3, QB Rating 96.2, 4418, 26 TD’s, 11 INT’s.

Even though he threw more accurately in 07 than he did in 06 and 08, he had a a completion percentage of 67.5, QB rating of 89.4, 4423 yards, 28TD’s and 18INT’s and 4428 yards.

2008 is overshadowed by a 8-8 year, and alot of that was faulty defensive play. Comp Per 65, QB Rating 96.2 5069 yards, 34 TD’s, 17 INT’s.

2009 Comp Per 70.6 (New NFL Record), QB Rating 109.6 (Led League), 4388 yards, 34 TD’s, 11 INTs. I know that every fan out there is hoping for a lul in performance, the Madden Curse, and other negative factors to play into the equation, but Drew Brees is hitting his stride and improving his game little by little. I am a homer fan, and I am proud of my team, but over the last 4 years, Brees has thrown for more yardage than any other QB in any 4 year span, and became only 1 of 2 NFL QB’s to ever throw for 5000+ yards in a season. The only other QB to achieve that is Dan Marino, the difference, Brees has a Lombardi. Hope and pray for an off year all you want, but me being a homer, I see him improving even more this year than last year.

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