Cowboys Camp Conundrum #1: Where Is the Guard Depth?
by Rafael Vela on Jul 21, 2010 1:35 AM CDT
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I was studying the rookie numbers last night, prepping notes for camp, and noticed some odd numbers on the offensive line.
There are two centers, the starter Andre Gurode and backup wannabe Travis Bright.
There are four players listed as guards on the team's web-site roster: starters Kyle Kosier and Leonard Davis, and backups Montrae Holland and Phil Costa.
There are two players with experience at the key left tackle spot: anticipated starter Doug Free and challenger Alex Barron.
Right tackle, meanwhile, has a log-jam of listed candidates. Incumbent Marc Colombo has long-time backup Pat McQuistan and second year man Robert Brewster behind him. Joining the scrum are rookies Sam Young, Will Barker and Mike Tepper.
When you consider that Barron also played extensively at right tackle with the Rams, Dallas starts with seven potential right tackle candidates.
That can't be right, especially when the guard depth looks so thin. Holland has played very little since his arrival from Denver in '08 and Costa was not drafted. He starts camp as a long shot.
I think a couple of the right tackle guys will get some early and extensive time inside. I have no inside data, but I'll guess that Brewster and maybe Tepper will challenge Holland and Costa for reps at guard.
In just four days, we won't have to speculate.
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I hope you used protection...
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
by dunkman on Jul 21, 2010 6:39 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought that I had read a while back that McQ was already getting reps @ OG...
Guess I was mistaken
He's been getting reps at G off and on for a couple years...including recent OTA's
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4668870/day-2-recap-mandatory-minicamp
the Cowboys mixed-and-matched their offensive line using Kyle Kosier at center and moving Pat McQuistan to both guard spots.
Besides, him strong like bu…err…Igor:
http://dal.scout.com/2/976879.html
The most even battle of the day came when two of the Cowboys’ strongest players — Olshansky (6-5, 315) and guard Pat McQuistan (6-6, 317) — squared off. The two slammed into each other and basically tried to drive each other straight backward. They destroyed a patch of turf on the Cowboys’ practice field, but neither moved much, so the win has to go to McQuistan on that one.
Hat tip to Aaron Novinger for both links.
Not sure how I feel about him at this point. I always dreaded the possibility of him having to play at Tackle.
How would I feel with him at Guard? Not sure yet, I’d have to see it in pads. If he’s that strong and had the potential to play at Tackle, how bad could he be playing in a phone booth on the inside? I do wonder if he’d have the head for it to recognize stunts and inside blitzes.
Would he be able to bend enough to consistently get leverage? He’s as tall as Bigg (6’6") but not nearly as stout (315ish vs 350+). Could he consistently handle 330lb+ DT’s leaning on him? It’d be interesting to find out…in the pre-season of course.
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by lonewolfz28 on Jul 21, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
His weight is OK for guard
although he’s maybe a tad tall. The question is mobility. Davis loses out when he has to react and move quickly. If McQ is better than Davis, that could be another option going forward.
I agree that they have wanted to see him at G for some time now, but kept getting derailed by Ts getting injured and having to fill in. That is now solved, so we should finally see the great experiement.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
No doubt...
backup and (yes) starting O-line are the weaknesses in the this team. And I’d be willing to bet that this weakness won’t come from the national media’s whipping boy. My guess is that he, Doug Free, will be more than capable and will be one of the few bright spots this season in the o line.
And then there’s everyone else in the starting line. No one is overwhelming and everyone seems to be, in unison, entering a decline. I’m not ready to completely write-off Columbo just because of his god-awful game against Minnesota (hey, nut jobs at ESPN — it was he that gave up 2.5 sacks against Minn., not Doug Free). Let’s hope that was a result of his injury. But he certainly didn’t leave us with too much hope. Gurode and Davis have been overrated. And Kosier is an effective but aging player. Any of these last 4 players could suddenly just stink it up. The Cowboys brass itself knows this which is why they’ve been trying to draft some top talent for the interior. We missed on Unger a few years ago and again missed (or passed) in this year’s draft.
So who are their backups in the 53 man roster? Perhaps the most intriguing is McQuistan if for no other reason than he has hung around so long. Barron is likely dependable. But that’s it. We’ve no reason to believe we’ve got any other firepower in the line-up.
I’ll say it right now — next year we need to draft at least 2 interior linemen with a chance of sticking around.
Not sure if Dallas missed on Unger
. . .. more like they did not try very hard . . . . Jones is hard headed; remember how the Cowboys went for a decade plus without a blue chip QB candidate; Romo was an accident that Dallas thinks they can repeat at every position (see nose tackle) . . . but it is a risky strategy when applied across the board; Dallas should have drafted a center in the last few years; Gurode could contend inside; Dallas should have drafted or traded for an elite left tackle or at least a right tackle . . . if this team underperforms, it will be because of a breakdown of the oline
well they were targeting him and from reports regretted not moving up to get him when he went right in front of them. (didn’t make the same mistake with dez or lee this time.)
That is the company line
Expecting him to fall that far was unrealistic . . .
well expecting dez to fall to 24 was unrealistic too
but when he did they jumped to make sure to get him when they could
The problem is Scottmaui
is that both Dez and Lee are not offensive linemen. They took they’re lessons of what happened to them when waiting for an offensive lineman to fall in they’re lap, and applied it to top picks, no matter the position.
Meanwhile, I am still left wondering what they are doing about the Oline- that’s the problem. My feeling is that we should have done all we could to have drafted Unger, and this year done the same to get our hands on Pouncey.
This is young, developing talent we are talking about. Nothing against the youngsters they have gotten, but they have not developed a good young lineman in awhile now…..
"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"
by DallasPalace on Jul 21, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
they have not developed a good young lineman in awhile now
Doug Free?
… and my money is on at least one of: Brewster, Bright, McQuisten
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Let me get this straight now...
You believe that Doug Free and Brewster have developed….I am not arguing the point. Here is what you should ponder though about the Oline in general…
What if Gurode was injured and lost for the year?
What if Kosier was injured?
What have the Cowboys done to replace these two vets down the road- say next year if something happened now?
Point: There is no one with good enough experience within the Cowboys offense to even fill in adequetely in case of an injury for these two players. Replacing Flozell and finding a backup for Columbo was not the only problem for the Oline
"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"
by DallasPalace on Aug 12, 2010 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah what about Free? lol
A 4th round pick in 2007, now the starting LT. Seems like pretty good young line development to me. Mid-round pick turned into great value.
And where they would have had to trade up to, what they would have to have given away, to get Iupani or Pouncey this year would not have been worth it.
yeah the defn were targeting him
The Cowboys wanted him all along and were hoping he would fall right in their lap at No. 51, but the Seahawks eventually traded up to the 49th spot and grabbed him.
Shame too
Really?! Really?!
There were multiple candidates
You gotta make your move when there are enough candidates so you can expect the entire group to drop . . . which the centers did that draft year . . .
A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma
Before the Alex Barron trade, and before Procter was cut, Hudson Houck broke down the line as follows:
Travis Bright and Montrae Holland project as center and guard. Robert Brewster is a left tackle, Sam Young is mainly a right tackle and Pat McQuistian is being moved from tackle to guard.
In mid May, Hudson Houck mentioned Brewster as a backup player he has confidence in. “You might be surprised by some guys coming up,” Houck said. “We’ve got some guys like Brewster that no one really even talks about very much that might be one heck of a player.”
With Barron in the house, I wouldn’t be all that surprised if Brewster moves inside. Also, Travis Bright projects a C/G. Wade Phillips seemed pretty high on Bright after mini-camp: “Travis Bright had been playing guard and we’re training him to be a backup center/guard player. He’s been playing guard, he knew what to do at guard and now we want to get him some snaps at center. Maybe he can play that position for us. He’s a real strong player. Exceptionally strong.”
by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 21, 2010 2:30 AM CDT reply actions
Brewster and Bright could be the future
It would be nice to see them get some experience this year so we can let go of Bigg and Gurode in the next season or two.
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
You at least have to wonder
if the team thinks highly enough of them that felt they didn’t have to go out and get FA or draft help at C/G. It would certainly explain what I consider a glaring talent gap.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
i think they’ll still draft C/G, gotta keep them in the pipeline anyway, but how they feel about Bright, and Brewster if he gets reps inside, will determine the priority. They like to get oline prospects in the mid rounds and not spend premium picks on them, and just keep trying enough prospects that a few will pan out and be the next Free. But if it’s apparent that Bigg and/or Dre are done, and they don’t feel pretty confident in the ones in the pipeline, it becomes a priority to spend a higher pick.
I think that must be the strategy, especially because
the FA route has been expensive.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I like this 'have to wonder' theory ...
The only o-line position they addressed in the off-season was at Tackle with Barron and Young.
If they assess both Brewster and Bright as promising, it explains quite a bit about this year’s draft. And if they do indeed ‘hit’ on both of these prospects, the line depth suddenly looks very different.
Unknown, especially with O-linemen, isn’t necessarily a bad thing :)
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Man
how long did that post take to tap out in Morse code through your Thai prison wall??? Impressive…
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I'll be back in the states next week ...
thank god for quick extradition of ‘specialty’ crimes :)
(can’t wait to stare at nfl network for about 72 hours straight :)
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Have you made any plans for crossing the border yet?
Vancouver? Tijuana? Cuba?
by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 21, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
HaHaHa !!!
You almost got it right … to reverse the “crossings” … I’m hoping to get to Vancouver, CANCUN and Cuba on this trip :)
At least I’ll get to catch the first month of NFL coverage before returning to the world of “futbol” :)
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Ah, you're new to the blog.
Welcome!
When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.
as you know all too well, Wolf ... nowhere but up :)
I’m so jonesin’ for some football that I’ll probably be out watching my local HS summer work-outs… and after the cheerleaders are finished I might even stay for the guys in pads :)
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
The silly season is officially over.
Tomorrow real football players report to San Antonio and begin the 2010-2011 season. I am so ready for football that I’m….well, ready for football.
When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.
The silly season is officially over.
You announcing your BTB retirement?
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
No, it's the new silly season.
Great expectations and dreams for players who’ll eventually be cut. However….I could be coaxed into retiring from my other silly responsibilities like work…and then there’s work, and I could always retire from work. I could hang with a little Jonesin’.
When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.
I really envy these guys that can get to training camp...
right now I’m DYING for some football …
My alma matar, UNC, looks to have a decent squad. Their defense should be one of the nation’s best. So even college football will be entertaining this year.
But really? It’s all about September 12th vs. the Skins.
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Yup
You just gotta envy a guy that makes a weekly paycheck of 50,000, or 100,000, or 250,000. And to think I had a shot at playing professional badminton.
When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.
Oline is always enigma
by it’s nature, as the only group whose starters really don’t rotate, so we rarely get to see the backups in live game action.
All the other positions (except QB) rotate so you at least get some glimpses of the depth. RB/WR/TE depth all get game reps. Dline rotates and has down packages, and LBs get a few plays off and has the nickel role, and DB depth get plays in nickel/dime packages.
But the starting oline plays nearly every offensive snap, every game.
Free got a couple series in garbage time in the Seahawks game. Is that the first time we saw him before he was suddenly thrust into the starting role soon thereafter? I think so. He’d been with the team for a couple years, but had only been active 1 game his first 2 seasons. to most of us he was nothing more than a vague concept. Most of us probably couldn’t have given a basic scouting report on him or picked him out of a lineup. Then suddenly Doug Free was our starting OT. And a fine one at that, to everyone’s pleasant surprise.
Such is the nature of the oline. Reports from camp and a few preseason drives are all we have to judge them on. We simply don’t get a chance to know them as well as we do all the other positions. We have little idea how they’ll play until they play. So mostly all we can do is listen to the coaches’ assessments, speculate and hope!
by scottmaui on Jul 21, 2010 7:02 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
excellent point :)
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Filed for future reference
I will copy/paste this anytime we embark on another O-line depth discussion.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 21, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
You know you've hit the big time
when One Cool pastes you into a spreadsheet. Wow.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Well said sir
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
Old?
Interior linemen can play well into their mid to late 30’s. Its the tackles with their need to be quick that you have to replace first. So Colombo probably is the next who needs replacement. The rest of the interior positions should be ok for another couple of years. Though one has to watch Davis.
As a rule
they play longer, but it’s like an old car…. when it starts to go, it really falls apart and fast. Rumors have been that they aren’t really happy with Davis, Kosier is a god technician but gets overpowered at times, Gurode seems to get confused by some schemes, and Colombo is inconsistent especially in pass protection. I’d be happy to see all of those guys moved out over the next two years or so.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Dre and Bigg are in decline I fear
Broaddus in his interior oline breakdown review says “The weakness of the offensive line is center and right guard.”
Andre Gurode failed to secure his man too many times. He failed to get to the second level too many times. He didn’t finish his block too many times. You’re always going to have mental mistakes and consistency issues with him. I see guys running through and making plays on him. I see guys getting off blocks and making plays. He shouldn’t have been a Pro Bowler last season.
Leonard Davis is extraordinarily strong, but he struggles in space and against quick players. If you bull-rush him, he’s going to beat you. If you make him move and get to his outside shoulder, he’s going to have problems. In the San Diego game, when the Cowboys couldn’t punch the ball in from the 1-yard line, Davis was a significant part of the problem because he did a poor job of adjusting to the run-through linebacker. The longer he has to hold his block, the harder it is because he doesn’t have the athletic ability to sustain blocks. He has to grab and hold. The weakness of the offensive line is center and right guard.
Broaddus watches tons of film and knows as much about this as anyone in the media, so I respect his opinions a lot. And if he’s right, C/RG could be the achilles heal of the team. It’s my biggest worry going into the season. Not LT or FS or anything else. We all know the oline are the unsung heroes and the key to the whole offense, and all the great weapons we have aren’t going to work if these guys break down further and can’t make holes and protect Romo.
I agree
That’s why the draft / Free Agency period were so frustrating. We resigned a guy who couldn’t beat out Proctor. And aside from that, made no moves to shore up an OLine situation that isn’t just about depth – our starter sucks at RG and we don’t know where Colombo will be at because last we saw him, he was historically bad at RT.
by JimmyJohnson on Jul 21, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Procter (AKA Human Turnstile)
only hung in there because he could back up two positions. It doesn’t mean that they liked him better at G.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I stand by my Draft Day Comment
This has been going on since 2006
It is the same process every year. We ask of Offensive Line help. And here is what happend:
1. We don’t sign any big name free agents. Fans on the board with Rose-Colored Glasses say "You don’t build a team with Old Free Agents, you build it through the draft".
2. Draft Day – We don’t take any top Offensive Linemen (or in the case of the last few years, Wide Receivers). Rose-Colored-Glass fans say "The draft isn’t the only place to get players. We can get players through free agency or players cut from other teams.
3. Cutdown day – We still haven’t acquired O-Line help. Rose-Colored-Glass fans (rightly) say "Nobody has great depth at every position. None of these freshly-cut players can help us because they all stink".
by JimmyJohnson on Jul 21, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
except you can get good oline players in the mid rounds
that’s their strategy. there’s logic to it, in terms of what positions are best valued where in the draft. OT starters tend to come from higher rounds than G/C. They found Free in the 4th round, and after a couple years to get ready he’s a starter. I think they would have been glad to take Pouncey or Iupati in the first round if they fell that far, but then Dez and Lee were too good a value that arguably filled needs as well, and they weren’t going to reach for an oline prospect. Just the way it works out sometimes.
This made me think...
Of the current starters, Gurode was drafted early in the second and Free (the X-factor) came in the 4th. 60% of our line came via Free Agency. So the only “mid-round” player of note is Free, and we have yet to see how that whole thing works out.
I think the best O-lines in football have players who’ve been acquired with high draft picks (1’s and 2’s). Look at how the Jets became a great running team in such a short time. They invested in Ferguson and Mangold (and now DuCasse) early in the draft. Dallas doesn’t start a single #1 pick on the O-line and yet, people expect them to play like a group of young, highly drafted blue-chippers. Maybe expectations for this group are too high given the lack of success in drafting future starters.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
maybe I’m misunderstanding your point, but Davis and Colombo are former first rounders. Add Barron to the mix and we have two starters and one backup.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 22, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Barron isn't the worst free agent signing for a legit LT back-up
As for the past, signing Bigg as a guard looked clever, Free isn’t a bust and developing some of the guys we have (Brewster, Bright, McQ) isn’t an entirely bad strategy.
Would I like to see a 1st round talent? Sure.
But hard to argue with the Dez signing.
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Barron wasn't a FA signing...
We got him in a trade for Barbie. I find it really, really hard to find fault with that move, even if Barron never sees the field. :)
Not in the purest sense...
but he did wait until the trade was all but finished to sign his RFA tender offer so it could go through.
Rabid and luvin' it
+1
Especially since from all I’ve heard, the biggest flaw with Barron is just a discipline issue regarding the snap count…which is something that it’s entirely possible could be fixed if a different approach is used than was in St. Louis.
God Bless Texas
by dwarfknight64 on Jul 21, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
2nd WR was a glaring hole that needed to be filled, and our 35 yr. old ILB is even more apt to decline than the elder statesmen on our OLine.
That said, depth at C is a real concern. Just like NT we only have borderline practice squad guys backing up our starters.
by Left Coast Cowboy on Jul 21, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Barron is a great value.
He’s only signed for this season, but having him kind of makes the Flo move work. The Flo move…sounds like a new dance. Yeah, yeah, that’s the step where you shuffle out the door.
When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.
And trip the security guy on the way out.
LOL
Rabid and luvin' it
by lonewolfz28 on Jul 21, 2010 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Recently I watched the Boys/Eagles Playoff replay
Early second half Felix had a long TD run – the D never touched him. The OT and TE blocked down while Davis kicked out and destroyed the CB. I suspect Bigg still has a few good blocks left in him.
Absolutely true, but...
When Bigg gets a man, no doubt about it, he plants him 10 yards downfield. But 1/2 the time he completely misses or D-linemen shoot his gap untouched. When it comes to O-linemen, there are no style points. I’d much rather have an assignment blocked 95% of the time than to have the assignment pancaked 50% and unblocked 50% of the time.
by JimmyJohnson on Jul 21, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Bigg can destroy people
watch the Saints game. he pulls on one play, catches Jonathan Vilma head on and flips the dude onto his stomach five yards downfield. It’s the most awesome punchout I’ve seen on an NFL field.
Problem is, Bigg whiffs — a lot. He’ll blow up his guy on one play and set him free on the next.
It’s the inconsistency. When he has bad games, they’re REALLY bad.
Interesting factoid on Bigg
I’ve been told for years that the Cowboys weights are accurate. Parcells was a stickler for weights and they don’t fudge them like some teams do. What you see on the web-site are the most accurate recent weights.
LD lists there right now at 353. That’s 13 lbs. less than last year. I wonder if he’s working on losing some girth to try and help his agility. He needs it at this point in his career.
Hmm...
You think maybe they’ll use him on more plays where he pulls around, has a little more time to draw a bead on his guy?
If accuracy is a problem, that seems at first glance like it might help, though I can’t say as I have any data to really back that up, per se.
God Bless Texas
by dwarfknight64 on Jul 21, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
Davis kicked out and destroyed the CB
Yea, that’s a bit of mismatch…though any CB that can’t dodge Bigg on the run deserves everything he got.
by Left Coast Cowboy on Jul 21, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Vilma is their MLB
but he flew through the air as if he were a CB.
(ba-da-bing!)
Thank you. thank you very much.
whoops
you were referring to the post up top…
I was...but the Vilma toss is even more impressive
What’s kind of a head-scratcher about both plays, though, is if Bigg is still fast enough to be an effective pulling guard, and coordinated enough to lock up LBs and CBs while on the run…why does he often struggle with effectively navigating the smaller space blocking required at the line of scrimmage?
Since strength is obviously not the issue, there would seem to be some hope that we can improve our blocking schemes and line calls while we wait for new OL talent. Look forward to hearing how things look to you from camp, Raf.
by Left Coast Cowboy on Jul 21, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe if he simply stopped trying to "blow up" guys
… and focussed more on maintaining his balance, maybe guys would have a harder time darting right past him.
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
God Technician?
Wow, he should really be able to block huh?
When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.
Just found out my employer is transferring
by CowboysFan4Life on Jul 21, 2010 9:42 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Didn't mean to hit finish...
Anyways I’m being transferred from nj to Plano, tx! How perfect is that timing hah! Anyone live near Plano? How far is that from the stadium?
by CowboysFan4Life on Jul 21, 2010 9:44 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
probably 20-25 miles or so as the crow flies
but 40 minutes to an hour driving, I’m guessing, depending on traffic. Maybe a Plano resident can give you a more accurate assessment.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
That's not bad at all
I can’t wait for the first game!
by CowboysFan4Life on Jul 21, 2010 12:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I live in hurst which isn't far from you really
but you’ll see once you get here that traffic sucks and could the trip demding on how fast you go can take about 40mins to one and a half hrs.
Someone's always Going to be Hating on Da Boyz
Lucky!
I know I don’t live in another state or particularly far from Dallas, but I lived slightly north of Houston throughout my school days and my wife and I were looking for jobs in Dallas and upper Houston area to make sure we would be able to go to games every once in a while. I ended up getting a job with NASA and have moved south of Houston :( At least this year we are playing the Texans twice this year (Preseason and regular) and both in Houston! :)
Ok dude, concentrate ... CONCENTRATE!
This is not the time to get all excited. Breathe deeply. Relax. Now go to you boss, and tell him: “Boss, about this transfer, we gotta talk…”
This is the talk where you get season tickets out of your company for agreeing to the transfer.
Don’t $%&# it up!
by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 21, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Lol
I already put in a request for access to the box
by CowboysFan4Life on Jul 21, 2010 10:32 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I just moved from NJ to Allen TX, just up the road from Plano
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Just found out my employer is transferring
by CowboysFan4Life on Jul 21, 2010 9:42 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I thought Mike Tepper came out of UCLA as a Guard?
by AustonianAggie on Jul 21, 2010 10:59 AM CDT reply actions
Guy played OT at Cal
both left and right.
had his leg run over and almost lost it. Rehabbed like mad and played. Gil Brandt’s line on him from mini-camp was that he looked powerful in drills, with a strong punchout.
All the scouting guides project him to RT in the pros if he stays outside, but if he’s got the lead in his hands, he could be good as a run blocker. That’s why I’m guessing him as a G prospect.
If he’s a poor man’s Kevin Gogan that would be a gift from the football gods.
Travis Bright
I was reading last year’s draft report from Sporting News. The scouts were very high on Bright; they thought enough of him to say he “would start on Sundays as a rookie.” If davis or kosier struggle, i hope this is the year they give the young guys like bright and brewster a shot. They could suprise people…just look at austin and romo when given a chance.
by beautifultyrant on Jul 21, 2010 11:30 AM CDT reply actions
He and Brewster may very well be
the Doug Frees of the current roster – the club may be quietly happy with them and are preparing them for starting roles down the line. That’s what lets me sleep at night at any rate…
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Well..he was an UDFA who didn't make the 53 or get picked up by another team all year
So I’m not sure whose scouts were so high on him.
I sure hope 1-2 of our unproven backups become legit NFL starters, but aside from Brewster they all have some long odds to overcome.
by Left Coast Cowboy on Jul 21, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
He got hurt and his stock fell.
Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-
+1 Even if these guys are a smidge behind the old guys in developement
I say play them, by the end of the year of playing full time they will be better and we can turn over the Oline.
Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-
Glad you brought this up Raf . . .
Because I have been saying for some time, if Brewster ever makes a contribution to this team (and that’s a big if), it will be at OG. Questionable pick at the time, I had over 30 OL prospects graded higher than him.
From the hometown of Bob Lilly,
An article on the offenive line and no...
Jimmy K/Bye Dawk?
Something is afoot!
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
McQ is a strange story
Both BP and Sparano were initially very high on him; but it was noticeable after the first year you heard very little about him. Word has trickled out that his problem is mental; keeps making the same mistake over and over. BUT if that were the case I think he would be gone by now.
Some O-Linemen seem to take longer to develop.
While I’m worried about reports such as this, I’d be more inclined to look at his work-ethic. If he is willing to put in the time, you have to believe he’s got a chance to correct problems that are more mental than physical.
Same goes for Barron… time will surely tell for both.
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I think his rep may be starting to affect his work or something; over the last year some of his stuff has not been that good.
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