Cowboys Camp Report 5: The Offense Makes a Push
Full pads returned for the second consecutive practice this morning, and the offense posted its most impressive workout of the still-short camp. The Cowboys worked extensively on 3rd down conversion and Tony Romo's group was close to unstoppable, against the 2nd and the 1st team defenses, demonstrating that the offensive guys have caught up, and quicklly, with their defensive counterparts.
The morning workouts saw strong performances from a couple of the redshirt second year players. Jason Williams continues his solid play at linebacker. The most encouraging workout came from second year RT Robert Brewster, suggesting that all he lacks are repetitions.
Creeping Coverage
The practice again began with approximately half an hour of punt coverage work. Today, Joe DeCamillis began by integrating his gunners and his blockers and worked on their initial blocks, their downfield release and surrounding the returner. This extends from yesterday's workout, which only focused on blocking at the line of scrimmage. DeCamillis is creeping the coverage work a bit down the field every day. I expect that sometime soon, he will start to work on returns. This week at least, its all about coverage.
The offense then worked on a series of red-zone passes, from a blizzard of formations. After working against air, the offense and defensive groups met in the far red zone for another 9-on-9 session, where only running plays were called.
The usual suspects performed well, and some surprising ones stepped up. Doug Free continues his strong early camp, with some edge clearing blocks on tosses and bend counters to his side. A suddenly spry Montrae Holland also contributed some good blocks, working backup Leon Williams upfield before planting him in the turf.
The 2nd offensive line had a strong sequence against the 1st team defensive front, as OT Alex Barron and Robert Brewster and the aforementioned Holland stood out.
After a short break the Cowboys reprised a drill from the Parcells days, running a series of 3rd down plays with down and distance markers changed after every play. The team would practice a 3rd-and-8, then a 3rd-and-3, then a 3rd-and-10 and so on.
Romo and the 1st offense started 5 for 7 in the drill, and would have converted a sixth play had Kevin Ogletree not dropped a pass off a square-in route. The first offensive line gave Romo consistent protection working against the 1st defensive nickel unit.
Jon Kitna brought the second offense on and continued to convert, going 5 for 6 against the 1st and 2nd nickel. Of note in this sequence was Brewter, who stopped Anthony Spencer on an early pass, then flopped to left tackle at teh end of the drill and stoned an Orlando Scandrick corner blitz.
The overall play sagged a bit when the 3rd offense came on, especially when it faced the 1st team D. The rookie OTs Barker and Young were over-matched and protection broke down quickly. Still, it was a solid day for the first and the second team offensive lines. The emerging depth there has to make the organization cautiously optimistic.
Notes:
-- Good morning for Robert Brewster. He got movement on running plays to his side. He offered his best and most consistent pass protection in this camp, regardless of whether he faced Curtis Johnson, Marcus Spears, Sean Lissemore or Anthony Spencer. We must remember that he didn't play a single down in last year's camp and has not participated in full contact since his senior year at Ball State. He's rusty, but the rust appears to be dropping off. I would like to see more consistency practice-to-practice before I get too high on his prospects, but today's work was much more encouraging than yesterday's one-good, one-bad sequences.
-- He's Faster, Example 42: Jason Witten ripped past Jason Williams on an intermediate in route in the 11-on-11s today. It's not that Witten beat Williams, but how he did it. Witten was a good two big steps beyond Dallas fasted ILB. I maintain Witten looks a step faster this summer.
-- Trickeration City -- The Cowboys practiced some trick plays for red zone formations today. I don't want to give away any state secrets, but Felix Jones and Marion Barber each did funky things. Sometimes the backs did crazy things together.
-- Josh Brent returned to the field today, but watched the workouts in jersey and shorts. He had a large wrapped cast on his left hand, which left his fingers exposed. I spoke to a hand surgeon last evening who told me that if Brent had a fracture and not a displaced metacarpal, he can return soon with the hand in a wrapped splint, because the fracture is surrounded by ligaments and muscle, which provide stability. If the broken bone were displaced, Brent would require surgery. The healing time on this type of injury is six weeks or so. Seeing Brent's wrapped hand suggests that he'll be back on the field soon.
-- BDAO Winner, Morning Edition: Sean Lissemore. The coaches are moving him up and down the line and he hasn't found a spot where he looks comfortable. Kyle Kosier planted him one one of the 11-on-11 downs.
-- A word of advice to the good folks bombarding us with David Buehler questions. Calm down. Dallas has drilled twice this week on field goals. Yesterday, they worked a bit on blocking for Buehler. He kicked a grand total of four balls, all between 25 and 32 yards in distance. My vantage point did not allow me to see if he was accurate or not.
It's moot anyway. What matters are his kicks in live games. If he's perfect in practices and shanks or pushes his pre-season game kicks, he'll have to be replaced. You'll be able to assess those kicks yourself, assuming you're in Cowboys TV network range.
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o-line
with the age of our o-line and the inexperience of our backups some promising news is nice to hear about Brewster and Baron
by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 12:26 PM CDT reply actions
Heard Broaddus say on the radio
that everyone on the 2nd team o-line is struggling except for Barron. This is in stark contrast to what Raf is reporting… I hope Raf is right! Broaddus seems to be down on all of these guys, especially Brewster and Bright.
I said he had one good practice
If you were rating Brewster on the entire camp, then yes, Broaddus would be right. He’s been ragged.
Same for Holland. He looked ragged, but was decent this morning.
by Rafael Vela on Jul 27, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Look at the O-line ratings I put up yesterday
I was saying basically the same thing.
by Rafael Vela on Jul 27, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Holland dogpiled some dude today!
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by Aaron Novinger on Jul 27, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Holland
hey Raf, has Holland lost any weight from where he was last year?
by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know
he’s fat. I don’t recall how fat he was last year.
by Rafael Vela on Jul 27, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
HAHAHA
I love that, that is one of the most straight to the point answers. I actually laughed out loud.
“He’s fat, I don’t recall how fat he was last year.”
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He's gigantic!
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by Aaron Novinger on Jul 27, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Semi-Tough
Wasn’t their primo guard nicknamed ‘Room’. As in “…go on out there and just take up some room…”
Maybe that Holland’s role in life? ;-)
When in doubt, empty your magazine
He's not fat, he's just big-boned
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by APerfectStar on Jul 27, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Just keep him away from the Cheezy Poofs.
Rabid and luvin' it
by lonewolfz28 on Jul 27, 2010 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Cartman pic fail :(
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by APerfectStar on Jul 27, 2010 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
sweeeeet
Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Felix Jones = defensive coordinator's Kobayashi Maru scenario
by APerfectStar on Jul 27, 2010 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear Mound Cody's in tip top shape right now.
Strangely enough, I didn’t hate the pick of the gelatinous pigman for the Ravens since he’s a good fit next to Haloti Ngata. I mean I guess the more massive Cody is the better the chances are he falls on somebody special like Tom Brady or Peyton Manning and breaks their collarbone knocking them out for four to six weeks and totally debacling their team’s playoff chances. Well, if he can actually ever get to the QB that is.
Just to be clear
I also don’t treat Broaddus or anyone else’s words as gospel. Rather, I’m just looking for any explanation you can give for your ‘differing’ opinions (education for myself… Not a critique of your analysis). Obviously, you explained or clarified your position (you two don’t see too differently)… If I didn’t read closely enough, my apologies!
No, no problems
It’s just that I wrote extensively on the OL last night and from what I can tell,
Broaddus made his remarks this morning, before the practice.
If you stuck a mike in my face this morning I would have said basically the same thing.
They have Barron and, hopefully, Brewster is about to make a push. Bright is what he is, and he’s got the job because he has no competition. If they feel really back about him, Kosier could move there, but then they have a problem at G because Holland does nothing exceptionally.
Timmy Mac
has suggested that if Bright continues to look green and if Kosier doesn’t take to the backup role, then a vet may be signed off the street. Would the Cows really look at guys who are grey around the ears, like Mawae or someone else? Doesn’t look like there are any viable alternatives (I can’t imagine there will be until next year’s draft)…
Doubtful on Mawae
Nothing against him, I would like a vet like him for a possible SB run, but he would likely want to start, and be paid as a starter.
I think Kosier will be ok as the primary backup. Plus Bright still has plenty of chances ahead to show he can do it.
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by APerfectStar on Jul 27, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I heard the same thing this morning.
Raf and Broaddus are 180 on their opinions of the backup OL.
We are not
read above.
People, these assessments are for ONE practice, not the entire camp.
by Rafael Vela on Jul 27, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Mr. I put up ratings on the entire Oline in yesterday's pieces
I said Barron and Bright looked good. Broaddus may not be as up on Bright. He’s not spectacular, but he’s got no competition.
I said Holland was getting backup OG by default and was nothing special.
I believe the line I had on Brewster was “he’s not ready to play right now.”
Brewster had a good morning. I’ve got my fingers crossed. If anybody takes that as an endorsement that he’s not Erik Williams Jr., I don’t know what to say.
by Rafael Vela on Jul 27, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
from your brilliant reports so far
I take it the second team OL looks much better than last season, is that a fair statement?
In Romo we Trust
No
Read closely. I said “encouraging.” I dont’ have much faith in Holland. He was better this morning but he was rolling scrubs. I’d hope he’s better but they don’t have a really good backup G.
Brewster was strong, but as I pointed out, it’s ONE practice. I’m HOPING he strings some good ones together.
Barron is good, and that alone may make the OL better, but it’s not like this team is 9 deep at OL. 7 deep may be more like it.
In your opinion for what u have seen, is Brewster purely a OT prospetct or can he possibly be a candidate for G, or is it too early to tell?
by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't say, he's worked 98% of the time at RT
and got three reps at LT this morning.
I am telling everyone that Raf thinks
Brewster, Bright and Holland are pushing the starters and it’s only a matter of time before they replace them.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
by dunkman on Jul 27, 2010 2:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
hehheheh paint the writer lol
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
That's my take as well
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by APerfectStar on Jul 27, 2010 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe my expectations are too low
If the OL is 7 deep, and the 2 who don’t start are somewhat flexible, it’s probably about the best we could hope. OL has been the biggest question mark and that would me 2 pleasant surprises.
by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 27, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Forget about the backups
Are the starters 5 deep?
The Starters are 5 deep in September
My opinion is that the problem is always how much good O-line play we get in December/January.
Same opinion I have of Barber. I love September Barber, it’s December/January Barber that frustrates me.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 27, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I know we are all concerned about our OL
but think about it. Does any team have real depth at OL? I think if any other team’s starter (especially LT) goes down, they are in trouble. Our 5 are good enough, they just need to stay healthy.
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by fan since '65 on Jul 28, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree that you two are on the same page about Brewster
and Holland (you sound more optimistic) but I would say that you two disagree on Bright. Let me rephrase from above… I hope you are right about Bright!
Broaddus makes it sound as if there is no hope for the 2nd team o-line…
Yeah, Broaddus makes it sound almost hopeless.
I was glad to hear some positive feed back from Raf. The OL is a big concern.
You gotta understand that they were going up against the 1st team D often too.
Gurode has a tough time with Rat, as is.
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by Aaron Novinger on Jul 27, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
That's make a lot of difference.
The best OLs in the league can’t handle the Boys pass rush.
You don't have to call me Mr., Mr.
you can just call me Hank.
thanks raf.......
you guys are the reason i no longer waste money to buy a paper every day…great reading and rather timely and..might i say,,(shout) informative!….and the money i save really adds up lol. i am glad to hear of progress of brewster and free. witten continues to impress with speed ..all good highlites on the day, hope for a quick recovery for the hand injury as well.
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Thanks for the info.
Glad to hear the backup O-line looked better. Off the subject, but how does Joe D. look. He looked like he was in pain last year.
cudos for coach D
what a difference last year in our special teams play and his commitment to the job, I know it couldn’t have been comfortable for him all year, hopefully all is well with him this year and our ST unit will be better than last.
by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't remember where I read it...
But somewhere said he was feeling better, less pain. The man is a warrior! And for CarolinaCowboy (below): JoeD was the best ST addition we’ve made in years! He’s awesome!
I’ve been kind of keeping an eye out for news about him, his neck’s in worse shape than mine.
When in doubt, empty your magazine
Good to hear he's not suffering as much
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by APerfectStar on Jul 27, 2010 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll take even
a good WR3 contribution from him… 6+ TDs, 650 yards and few (if any) drops would be a successful season given what we’ve seen from him so far. As long as he’s making the most of the opportunities he gets, I am fine with him on the field… For some plays. ;)
thats crazy
you’d be happy for him to do worse than last year?
by Pete Mccullagh on Jul 30, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
redzone Roy
It would be great in improving our redzone efficiency if we could utilize Roy’s height with Bennett, I think that’s where they can be most effective
by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's the thing, though...
Apparently, we’re gonna want Dez out near the end zone because the same coach who coached Moss in HS (or was it college?) says Dez is the best jump ball receiver he’s ever coached. And, oh yeah, if you have seen HS or College video of Dez, you can see why someone would say that…
Roy does look better coming out of his breaks...
That means he may be able to get separation from good DBs and thus provide something on the field. He seems to be able to do so against Jenkins in practice… There’s hope, I guess! Also, the more good receivers we have, the better.
I don't think it will be very long
Before Dez will be taking over completely for RW, everywhere on the field. We’re probably talking about a fairly short transition period. In the meantime there’s probably plenty of 3 WR sets that could be used or even RW as a 2nd “TE” type.
by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 27, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't Shoot the Messenger
But I’m still not convinced that Miles will stay healthy for the whole season… I’m scared! We need as much depth as possible and Roy playing well is good and actually needed thing to make me feel more comfortable about the entire corps.
I haven't dared to speak that either
Has Austin had a healthy year yet? I’m a huge fan, have been from the start. But his track record is not good.
by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 27, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Last season?
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by APerfectStar on Jul 27, 2010 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Roy playing well would be a welcome addition to this team
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I'l carry Roy's jockstrap...
if he can play too his contract.
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Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
I'd do it if he played to Ogletree's contract
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Haha
OK I’ll carry it with my TEETH if he plays to his contract.
Think I’m not a diehard fan? :)
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Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
Yeah
I’m out too.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
by dunkman on Jul 27, 2010 2:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Ok maybe that went a bit far....
or possibly that is just my little faith that Roy can do that.
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imagin thaat lol
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
yo how is costa doing what up with Lissemore i thought he was Ratliff clone he need to go in the weight room if kyle pancake him
more on kafka in yesterday's post
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by Aaron Novinger on Jul 27, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Las cucarachas!
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by Aaron Novinger on Jul 27, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
a guy transformed into a giant cockroach would make one heck of an OLineman at guard!
Or how about Jeff Goldblum from “The Fly” ?
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by Realist Larry on Jul 27, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Very pleased...........
to hear some good things about the backup oline. But, just like everything else in camp, its way to early to get excited about it. Encouraging as hell though.
I'm with you
It is really hard to keep the enthusiasm in check though. If the Cowboys can go into the season with some OL depth, I think we should all go buy SB tickets.
by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 27, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure is
Especially Barron and Brewster
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by APerfectStar on Jul 27, 2010 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
speedy Witten
I remember the playoff game last year against Philly when he caught that pass inside the 10 yd line, I thought he should have scored but it looked like his legs were in stuck in mud
by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 12:33 PM CDT reply actions
Talk about me being nit picky
The one flaw I see in his game is how easily he is tackled after the catch. The first guy who gets a finger on his legs brings him down. I hope any added speed is core strength and improves his balance.
by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 27, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
love him though
It really doesn’t matter to me anyway how fast he is, the man always seems to make the big play when needed and is a constant pro and great teammate, but if he did get faster that could mean some more TD for him
by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Respectfully Disagree Sir
Here’s proof
"You have to have a stronger belief in yourself than the disbelief of others."
Antonio Ramirez Romo
Let me guess
It’s the play against the Sheagles and he is running down the field with his helmet is off. I loved that one too.
by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 27, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
question
are u disagreeing with his speed or the post above about his flaw
by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
He got hit high by two guys from opposite sides
They effectively canceled each other out leaving Witten standing while they bounced off. Kind of like those steel balls you put on your desk that clack back and forth forever.
Buehler kicking FGs
still scares me a little. A FG kicker can win or loss 2 or 3 games a year for you.
Would be great if we can save the roster spot, hopefully he will pick up on his accuracy and start nailing makeable fg’s like he kicks off.
by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
First
To say I’m excited about Brewster.
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Lasttime I ever do mobile phone postings...
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by HudBaby on Jul 27, 2010 12:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Lasttime I ever do mobile phone postings...
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by HudBaby on Jul 27, 2010 12:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Dez
anyone know if Dez isstill hanging around theqb only part of the field?
by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 12:47 PM CDT reply actions
What do you mean?
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by Aaron Novinger on Jul 27, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
There was a report the other day
That Dez joined the QB group in a “QB only area”. It was positioned as a positive thing when I read it, he said he just wants to get on the same page with them.
by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 27, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I read a report that dez was hanging around the qb only part of the field during unit drills day #1 I think listening in on what they were saying, he said in an interview that he did it to make sure he knew all the info he could about play calls
by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 12:56 PM CDT reply actions
Huh. Not sure.
The receivers all usually practice pretty tightly with the QBs during positional drills. Perhaps that was when he came out early to throw with Nichols?
As far as I know, there is no QB only area. They sometimes throw to each other and the coaches when the WRs are working on route running. To be honest, all the Dez stuff is being blown way outta proportion. The dude simply comes to practice, catches everything, looks fast, and is learning the offense. Everything else you see on the news is just fluff.
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by Aaron Novinger on Jul 27, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks for the feedback
I try not to believe all that I here on espn or nfl network about our boys, but I can’t help but watch every time there is a report even from ed werder
they're all still stuck on the shoulder pad thing and oogling marty B pics...yawn
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by Aaron Novinger on Jul 27, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
You know, I think Marty B
put those pics out because he knew Phillips and Sicko were going to be getting press while he rehabbed his ankle. he couldn’t stand the thought of not being in the limelight.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
And will be for another couple weeks I'm sure
Thank gawd for BTB!!!!
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by APerfectStar on Jul 27, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, On J-Phillips
Any potential for him to be the 2nd TE? Or FB/TE option? Broaddus called him a poor man’s Mark Chmura
That's a cool comparison! Too bad we can't call him Chewy.
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by Aaron Novinger on Jul 27, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
As long as we don't cally him Philly
by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 27, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
You want to play -- on the field -- like Chewy
You don’t want to end up like him, off the field…
just not babysitter chewy
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by APerfectStar on Jul 27, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
didn't I talk about him?
He looks bigger and like Witten, faster.
He’s taking a big step forward already. Marty B. better get healthy fast or he’s trade bait.
MartyB
The next Visanthe Shiancoe?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 27, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Who?
All I know about Shiancoe is he caught nothing but TD passes last year from
Brett Favre
by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Gates? Clark? Daniels?
Witten is THE man, but there are some other DAMN good TEs in this league, too.
How about the next Jermichael Finley
I think that guy is going to be a beast this season.
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by APerfectStar on Jul 27, 2010 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't even know what that means.
Is he just bragging that he can reach back 10 years and name a guy who was decent?
by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 27, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you ever watch him play?
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by Aaron Novinger on Jul 27, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I did
And I know he was good for a while. I just don’t know what defined him (other than hot tubs and young females)
by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 27, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL!
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by Aaron Novinger on Jul 27, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Chmura
was a poor man’s Witten… If that means anything to ya. ;)
Chmura was better than decent
when the Packers were going to Super Bowls.
He was a bit of a jerk, but how many NFL players aren’t? He was a very good all-around TE for several years. When you make Keith Jackson your team’s changeup TE, you’re good.
I think Chmura...
has a name that sounds like he should have been a James Bond villian.
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Is that a comment on his ability?
Or am I supposed to infer he can’t get the same quality of underage babysitters?
Chumura is a poor man's Roman Polanski
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by APerfectStar on Jul 27, 2010 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
witten
Even though it’s difficult to tell from a picture
, Witten looks like he has lost some weight. Anybody been at camp that can comment on this?
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Supposedly lost 5-10.
His wheels in the sky are turning.
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by Aaron Novinger on Jul 27, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
and hi creedance clearwater revival ..left narry a ripple on the surfice a s he walks on water....
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
only the young can say
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by APerfectStar on Jul 27, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone watch Sportscenter today?
They brought up Dez Bryant’s refusal to carry RW’s Pads to Matt Garza, who pitched a no-hitter last night. Really ESPN, really!?!?
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by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 27, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Dez answered today
Said he didn’t realize what a big deal would be made out of it, that he and RW were good, and he’ll be doing whatever tradition calls for.
Sorry Terry and others quick to dump on the young man, your rush to conduct a 1000 mile psychological assessment of his character will have to be postponed. Better luck next time.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
by dunkman on Jul 27, 2010 2:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL. Good for Dez
When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.
Yeah
He basically said he wasn’t aware that it was some kind of binding tradition and that if he had known, he would have carried his whole uniform set.
He also learned a lesson on what stupid chicken sh* passes for sports news.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
by dunkman on Jul 27, 2010 2:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Good also for the leaders of the team...Witten already said yesterday that the matter had been addressed.
A few of them probably took Dez aside and explained the situation…
I would guess ypu are right
But of course Dez as a true head cases, TO clone would have told the media he didn’t care and wasn’t going to do it.
I’m not sure what is more pathetic – that fans are so quick to ascribe character traits to people they don’t know at all or the brainless sports media that plays up the dumbest, least important story lines they stumble across.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
by dunkman on Jul 27, 2010 2:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
ESPN is the TMZ of Sports
That’s the audience they cater to, and that’s ESPECIALLY how they cover the Cowboys.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 27, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
bingo
Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Felix Jones = defensive coordinator's Kobayashi Maru scenario
by APerfectStar on Jul 27, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
was witten to chicken to say roy i see your sht in the press instead of in house again we r gonna ??????
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
for i have heard no! reply from ole roy that could be construed as an apology...
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
or did wade handle ole roy?
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
Wow! Guess you don't like Roy much...
To answer your question, Witten only made that comment after repeated rephrasing of the questions…he started out by saying THEY (the team) handles this stuff in house. C’mon they probably spoke to everyone involved, they approached it like men, and the matter is resolved. You don’t know that they didn’t speak to Roy.
Let me reply for Terry:
Dez not knowing that it might be made into a big deal shows that he is too stupid to play video games, let alone play football on the same team as Tony Romo and Sean Lee. Oh, how I rue the day that the Cowboys drafted this obvious nincompoop who will sully the same uniform worn by Tony Romo and Sean Lee.
Also, how awesome are Tony Romo and Sean Lee?
Super Duper Awesome, that is how awesome.
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
My Beer Blog: http://tiltingsuds.wordpress.com/
"Oh, how I rue the day that the Cowboys drafted this obvious nincompoop who will sully the same uniform worn by Tony Romo and Sean Lee."
This is so much better when you imagine the snooty English professor from Back To School saying it.
Uhh...
Pretty sure the English prof was Sally Kellerman, I believe it was the snooty economics prof…
When in doubt, empty your magazine
fantasy ....
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
i know ive read it all heheeh how r ya this fine day )
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
Good.
Until I scrolled to the bottom of this thread and saw something about Felix and knee swelling.
yeah ... that made me stop in my tracks...i do hope its not serious
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
I was actually considering this whole thing might be a put-on.
But without controversy how can rat-faced fink Ed Werder possibly get aroused enough to have relations with rodents?
Its obvious the vets finally had a good talk with him
I’m glad Witten and others showed the leadership to recktify this problem and nip it in the bud quickly, good for them.
In Romo we Trust
Yes, that's what Barney Fife alway said.
Nip it, nip it, nip it in the bud.
Hee hee.
You said “rectify”. lol
- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Jul 28, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
amen ..wtgo dez
now where is roys apology for bein a snide lil wet nosed wanna b diva ..accountability for goin press witth it ????
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
RW did not go to the press.
Dez was being interviewed by the press when RW set he pads down right next to him. So of course they asked Dez about it and Dez said “I’m here to play football…..”
THEN the press asked RW to reply to that.
- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Jul 28, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually...
if you read the Tim Cowlishaw article, that’s not quite how it happened either.
Rabid and luvin' it
yeah espn media.......
gathers around the cusp of my toilet and speaks of its views of the world…. paqrdon me fellahs,,but,,,i feel the need to christen thee….ahhh..momentarily…..fluuush!
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
What?
No questions about Free?
That’s a good thing, right? Cuz he looks damn good!
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
That's is a good thing.
Also Barron is working out is music to the ears.
Question about Mr. Free
Is his footwork really as good as they say it needs to be as a LT?
by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
good job picking up the blitzin lb today...he does move very wll
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 27, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I rewatched some of that Vikings playoff loss where Free had to play LT after Flozell went down, and some of those sacks he got criticized for was actually J Witten to start with, but how much other responsibility free had to those plays I don’t know.
by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Raf is clearly wrong about Free
I know I’ve read right here that he can’t run block.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
by dunkman on Jul 27, 2010 2:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
people do have a opportunity to get better...the final product is what i want to see .
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
I'm much more comfortable about Free
than Davis and Columbo. But the news of Bright and Barron doing well offers some hope.
I am so excited for Witten this year now
and Im definitely getting him in fantasy football early this year too.
Golden Tate can believe it's not butter.
That and Cris Carter on the bandwagon???
Sure signs of the apocalypse….
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
by dunkman on Jul 27, 2010 2:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Does anyone know more about the bad injuries Romo played through last year...Kitna brought it up in a Sirius interview.
…and Gil Brandt mentioned it a few times…and Brandt is pretty reliable…
Ño but
I suspected that he was not 100 percent in the beginning of the season. Or Kitna, older than Bad Knees, simply got the years wrong.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
by dunkman on Jul 27, 2010 2:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Sorry wrong placement
No…it was Gil Brandts comments…he made it during a couple of interviews…even to Jerry.
Something happened.
Well he had that back injury sustained when Barber fumbled, and Romo basically
got trampled trying to prevent a touchdown. I also suspect his hand wasn’t completely healed to start last season, although he never made excuses about some of his early-season inaccuracy, so I could be wrong. If there’s more, I don’t know about it.
ROMO INJURY
didn’t he take a hit in the lower back in a game last year?
by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
better to have simply stated that to begin with loil
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
Romo had consistent back problems last year
Several times his back muscles seized up & the training staff had to give him injections to “unlock” it. This is the sort of thing that might be a long-term issue with Romo. I’m worried his back will eventually become a chronic problem and the cause of his decline in a few years (think Matt Hasselbeck). It’s really a matter of how well the o-line protects Romo’s blindside & prevents hits to his back.
by Sweet Jethro Pugh on Jul 27, 2010 8:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Way to spin things so positively...
Give Romo adequate protection, and this problem goes away. I think the staff already realizes this, and it caused them to start the youth movement this year by promoting Free. Leonard Davis is probably next.
Good point
Improved protection will mitigate the problem substantially, but I don’t think it will make the problem go away. All QBs take vicious hits to the back, and the report I read said that Romo’s back spasms are “not uncommon.”
Don’t want to be such a downer, but there’s not much upside to any reports about a chronic injury, and QBs with back problems have short careers.
Source:
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/black-and-blue/2009/black-and-blue-report-november-24-2009
by Sweet Jethro Pugh on Jul 27, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
No...it was Gil Brandts comments...he made it during a couple of interviews...even to Jerry.
Something happened.
sorry
I’m not sure if it is the same play though, the one I’m thinking about was a sack I believe
by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
the play you spoke of he was visciously hit from back side..if were r talkin same play
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
yes, I believe he was on the ground already
or in the process of going down and took the hit
by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
oh ok im thinkin of another )
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
hard to remember
he took alot of hits and sacks last year, most since he became starter I think
by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks
I know some of that was him trying to cut back on int’s but he can’t continue to take all those sacks, I’m surprised hedoesn’t run more often, pretty good at getting away but he is no m vick
by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
left yaa post a lil earlier today cali below heheh
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
Instead of changing his game, which is progressing nicely, maybe it would make more sense
to just upgrade his O Line…?
Trickeration
I probably make this comment at least once during every training camp, but it still amazes me that these practices are open to the public. You gotta think that every single Cowboys’ opponent this season has a scout in the stands, charting every formation and play. Must be a pain in the butt for the coaching staff to balance teaching their whole playbook while still keeping a few tricks hidden up their sleeves. That whole communication/organization side of the coaching job is something that casual (or even rabid) fans definitely under-appreciate.
Anyway, my guess is that there really are few surprises in the NFL between most teams—so I think Raf might as well go ahead and spill the beans to us on what trickery the Cowboys are up to!
by greatwhitenorth on Jul 27, 2010 3:15 PM CDT reply actions
FelixJones?
Anyone hear Felix the Cat isbeing held out of this afternoons practice with some knee swelling any comments or info to how bad this is?
injury update
also Wade says he expects a quick return to practic for Lee and Hatcher, good news!
yess it is thank you for update carolina cowboy )
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
oh and carolina cowboy.....
ill gladly carry your pen and notebook and recorder for you till camp ends,,,,(prob the only way ill be able to make to camp) heheheheh
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
was he out in the AM?
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Jul 27, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Jul 27, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
NO
TOOK 2 GOOD HITS AND STORY IS MAYBE FROM ONE OF THEM OR JUST FROM PRACTICE DO NOT KNOW WHICH ONE, MAYBE ALL.
by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Felix
Yeah Iheard he was uniform with pads and all going thru drills, hopefully all is ok!
by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
This sounds like a promo for an X rated film
Jones and Barber each did funky things. Sometimes the backs did crazy things together.
Thanks for the excellent report Raf. Sounds like some of the troubling areas are being addressed in good fashion.
Now all I want is a good report on our safeties.
by TCB Orange Dino on Jul 27, 2010 5:38 PM CDT reply actions
Nice to hear about the OL success
Especially good news on Brewster. (I know, I know) but any good reports are welcome.
Also sounds like Jason Williams is starting to pick up where he left off last season before the injury. Can’t wait to see him in games.
Has Dez been fielding punts?
Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Felix Jones = defensive coordinator's Kobayashi Maru scenario
I think he has.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.

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