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The Cowboys don't have a quality backup guard. To my eyes it's the thinnest spot on the team. Meanwhile, I see 2nd year TE/F-back John Phillips doing the Steve Austin, looking bigger, stronger and faster. He's blocking hard, and like Jason Witten, looks faster getting up the field.

If there's a team out there with a John Gesek-type guard, I've got a 'Net-happy backup TE I'd shop for him. But that's just me.

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Personally, I like Phillips better than Bennett

If they want to trade a backup TE for a quality guard, I’d rather they trade Marty B.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 27, 2010 2:00 PM CDT reply actions  

MartyB is who he was talking about. He was saying Phillips looks good, and therefore perhaps the “Net-happy TE” (Marty B) could be expendable.

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on Jul 27, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Jimmy!

I need your Eagles expertise real quick. Fantasy draft is in a few weeks. How do you think McCoy does for you guys this year? Think it’s his job to lose?

by Dub_TC on Jul 27, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

FANTASY

|’VE SEEN HIM LISTED AS THE 35TH BEST PLAYER 17TH BEST RB

by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’d say it’s his job, period, although they’ll mix in Mike Bell and Leonard Weaver a little bit. As bigham said, he’ll big a very valuable player in ppr leagues, because he’ll absolutely get his share of catches. I think he gets about 15-18 carries per game – If he’s really good, maybe they’ll give him more.

5th round (in a 12-team league) would be good value, but I wouldn’t reach for him – Too many other weapons on that offense (Jackson, Maclin, Avant, Celek, Weaver, and Bell as a TD vulture) will eat away at his opportunities.

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on Jul 27, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmmm 5th?

I actually thought about getting him with my 3rd rounder! It’s a PPR so I think I’ll target him towards the 5th. Gracias.

by Dub_TC on Jul 27, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

If it’s PPR, I’d move him up to the mid-late 4th.

The Eagles just don’t run the ball. Back in the day, even when Brian Westbrook was the 2nd best RB in the NFL behind LT, you wouldn’t dare draft him any higher than 7th or 8th overall.

The one guy that I think might fly under the radar outside the Philly area is Jeremy Maclin. If you look at the back half of his season, he’s a solid #2 fantasy WR. His 2nd half…

SD – 6-76-1
CHI – 6-64-0
WAS – 5-63-0
ATL – 4-83-0
NYG – Injured in 1st Q
SF – DNP
DEN – 6-92-0
DAL – 4-58-0
DAL – 7-146-1

In 7 games, that’s 38-582-2. Average that over 16 games, and you’ve got 86-1330-4. He quietly had a really good 2nd half of the season. With the attention that Jackson and Celek are going to get, he’s going to get all sorts of favorable matchups. Wherever you have him, move him up.

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on Jul 27, 2010 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah I like Maclin late.

I’m thinking about Celek in about the 7th too …. wow … I could have 3 Eagles on my squad …. shoot me now.

by Dub_TC on Jul 27, 2010 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really Terry?

Why would you rather have them trade Bennett?

by jevans1729 on Jul 27, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok,

all I’m asking is why?

by jevans1729 on Jul 27, 2010 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

because

I think you can get more for Bennett than you can Phillips.

by Dub_TC on Jul 27, 2010 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well,

if you use that logic, why not trade Demarcus Ware? (Just funnin’) I’m interested in why so many people are willing to trade the player with obvious superior skills? As much as I like Witten, he will be close to, if not thirty, by the time he is up to re-sign. Bennett’s potential is beastly. Sorry, I don’t get it.

by jevans1729 on Jul 27, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's got superior skills...

but they haven’t translated to the field yet. Unless you’re talking about his blocking skills.

Phillips may not be as athletically gifted, but he has shown he can run routes and catch reliably.

I’ll take a TE with good substance after one season over a TE of great potential after two seasons. Nate Newton covered this today on the Nate and Coop Show:
Courtesy of DCFanatic:
http://cdn11.castfire.com/audio/303/2113/7247/381494/gamenight_2010-07-27-161444-3959-0-0-0.96.mp3

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by lonewolfz28 on Jul 27, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Try matching Bennett's

rookie year to Phillips rookie year and there is no contest in both blocking and receiving between the two players. People forget that Bennett got injured (concussion) last year and still had twice as many catches as Phillips.

Bennett’s high school pedigree (best TE in the nation), college resume, (better numbers than Vernon Davis), along with his 1st year stats show who is the better player. And just what is this “good substance” that Bennett is missing?

by jevans1729 on Jul 28, 2010 6:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Unlike Ware, Bennett is lazy and a head case

Pure talent isn’t everything, just ask Ryan Leaf.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 28, 2010 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bennett has outperformed

Phillips in both of his years in the league. Talent plus outperforming the other guy is supposed to be the benchmark for who is the better player Terry. Not whether you like what the player does in their spare time.

by jevans1729 on Jul 28, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not hard to outperform someone that didn't get on the field much until late in the season.

And once he did get on the field, he did a couple things that Bennett wasn’t doing…running routes correctly and catching the ball.

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by lonewolfz28 on Jul 28, 2010 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's amazing how

people set the bar so low for Phillips (eight passes caught all season) and so high for Bennett (18 passes caught). And how do YOU know someone did not run a route correctly? Don’t bother to answer that question because you don’t know. Only the two players and the coaches would know.

by jevans1729 on Jul 29, 2010 5:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

And how do YOU know he's running them correctly?

You can see a route run and tell if the player is rounding them off. You can also tell when a QB isn’t going to a certain player. Ask yourself, why wouldn’t a QB target such an impressive physical specimen more? One answer is he doesn’t have the trust of his QB and/or coaches.

Rabid and luvin' it

by lonewolfz28 on Jul 29, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

What is your evidence that Bennett is lazy?

I agree that he has not lived up to expectations, but I have not heard of him loafing in practice

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by Seanrude on Jul 28, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im not in agreement with Terry often, but this one I am...

Phillips came on late last season. My hopes of Bennett turning into anything in this league are fading fast. He has the tools, but I don’t think he will be around here long enough to finally figure it out. Jerry made a mistake IMO, not trading him to Cinci for a 2md round pick if that rumor was true.

by Boyzfan94 on Jul 28, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Phillips got on the

field because Bennett went down with a concussion for two games. Phillips caught a total of eight, count em, eight passes which is exactly the same number as Ogletree. I think “Phillips came on late last season” is a bit of an overstatement.

by jevans1729 on Jul 28, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Disagree.

When he got the opportunity, he performed. Too bad it was late in the season instead of earlier.

Rabid and luvin' it

by lonewolfz28 on Jul 28, 2010 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

You disagree with what?

That Phillips wasn’t the third TE? That Bennett didn’t get hurt? Or Phillips caught 8 balls? It wasn’t earlier in the season because he is not a better player than Bennett. The coaches have determined Bennett is the best blocking TE. Despite Bennet’s drop off from his rookie year, he still outperformed Phillips in all fazes of the game.

by jevans1729 on Jul 29, 2010 5:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I disagreed with your assessment...

that “‘Phillips came on late last season’ is a bit of an overstatement”. If it wasn’t “earlier in the season”, then when was it? There’s no way to argue that Phillips didn’t improve at all. As for Bennett being better in all phases of the game…he’d better be after an extra year in the system. We’ll see if Phillips has overtaken or passed him once Bennett gets back on the field again.

My money is on Phillips being a better receiver and Bennett being a better blocker. The big question is, will being pushed by Phillips finally get Bennett to pull his head out and concentrate.

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by lonewolfz28 on Jul 29, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

But who is still available?

I doubt the Pats will let Logan Mankins go for a ‘backup’ TE…

by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 27, 2010 2:03 PM CDT reply actions  

don't know, It's early

most teams have not even opened camp yet.

by Rafael Vela on Jul 27, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very early depth chart for them has Alge Crumpler as their starter

who hasn’t even been relevant since Vick sent his image down the crapper.

But they have a 2nd rounder and a 4th rounder that they drafted behind him…

by JLMax09 on Jul 27, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

They drafted Rob Gronkowski in the 2nd round. They think he’s their starter.

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on Jul 27, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'd definitely start Gronkowski if I was them as well.

I’m just saying I do not think Pats are in the TE market since the draft, unfortunately. We will need another sucker like the Bengals to offer up a high pick for Bennett. No use counting on that to happen.

by JLMax09 on Jul 27, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chester Pitts?

anyone know if we showed any interest in him? I think he held a workout the other day for some teams. Were we one of them?

by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

as of now ..no...theres no interest from dallas on chester as far as i know....

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Jul 27, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

31 years old, Microfracture surgrey on a big man's leg....Not good...Didn't work out for us..

When the Texans don’t even look at bringing you back in for a workout, that should say something about where he is at now.

Worked out for Colts and Steelers the other day, Bills Monday. Visiting with Steelers, Seahawks, Broncos this week
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=1717

by JLMax09 on Jul 27, 2010 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just out of curiosity (and I swear I’m not just trying to get a rise – it’s a serious question), but do you see any quality backup tackles or centers either down there?

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on Jul 27, 2010 2:06 PM CDT reply actions  

No, on the Cowboys’ roster from what you’ve seen in camp so far.

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on Jul 27, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay,

Barron has been solid, He eases a lot of potential headaches.

Brewster was ragged the first week, one mistake one play, then one good play, then another type of mistake.

This morning he started stringing good plays together. Given how this is his first consistent reps since ‘08, I’ve got my fingers crossed.

They don’t have good backup Gs. Bright, I need to watch closely. He’s in Cory Proctor’s area code. He’s not getting pushed as much, but he’s not generating much push either.

by Rafael Vela on Jul 27, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t Brewster going to work out at G?

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on Jul 27, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gotcha, thanks.

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on Jul 27, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I imagine that Holland

Should be added to the list. He’s played in enough games and played well for the team in 08… Granted, it took him long enough to get on the field because he has a nasty habit of eating himself out of meaningful minutes.

by CowboyMA on Jul 27, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

he has a nasty habit of eating himself out

Ew.

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on Jul 27, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

The 'Philthy' humor has arrived...

LOL. But, yes, not the best constructed sentence and touche on the pick up.

by CowboyMA on Jul 27, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha, my brain would not allow me to pass on that joke.

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on Jul 27, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Jul 27, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

while we are on a humor kick.....

my daughter of 12 made a joke about a wr , i shall not mention,,,as to how to solve his (dropsy hands) as she put it…. give him some shades that are designed to give a football the apperance of a watermelon.. that she said would solve it. to which i laughed and said.. yeah untill he reached the 5yard line and then he decides to throw it down to break it and commence to tryin to eat it… what a sight that would be.. everyone in the stadium would be,,,whaaat the bleep ….

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Jul 27, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol ill take the slant in humor

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Jul 27, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

just so theres no misunderstandin to the watermelon add...

fact,,,,people on plantations usedand often prefered watermelons to sustain there fluids thru long days in the field .as it was their choice…the plantation owners saw the validity of their reasoning behind their choices….(fact) ..jus to enighten you a bit in its origion and where that began..nothin racist in my intentions at all …but thanks….)

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Jul 27, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't offended

That particular .gif just came to mind when I read it.

by Dezstroyer88 on Jul 27, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

its cool lol i jus couldnt help sharing that ...for the last thing i ever want to be is racist ...

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Jul 27, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

hehehehe it did bring a good laugh of comic relief after all the stress ive been thru this week lol

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Jul 27, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

And while we're on the topic of depth... (and anyone else is free to chime in)...

I’m writing a piece about teams that have an overabundance of talent at a particular position, and will be likely to trade/cut one of those players by the end of camp. For example, the Cowboys have 6 NFL-caliber WR’s and they may find it difficult to keep all 6 – (Miles Austin, Roy Williams, Dez Bryant, Kevin Ogletree, Sam Hurd, Patrick Crayton). Are there any other positions on the Cowboys’ depth chart in which you think they’ll be forced to part with a talented player that another team will snap up right away? And if so, could you maybe give me a short breakdown of the players involved in those camp battles and your take on which guy will no longer be with the team?

I have my own thoughts, but since you’re down there at camp and all…

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on Jul 27, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who would the 3rd TE be if they traded Marty B?

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on Jul 27, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nooooo! I won’t be able to read Peter King for the rest of the season.

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on Jul 27, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Jul 27, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

The KSK version, or the real one?

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Jul 27, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

TE

I think that we have an over abundance of TE

by Holchr31 on Jul 27, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

too much depth

how about DE/DT seem to have pretty good depth there?

by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

I don’t think any of our D-Line depth would garnish much in a trade but we are talking about a backup OG here, so maybe someone looking for alittle DL help like Miami would be interested some

by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

WR/TE

If our RBs actually stay healthy, having 3 good RBs may be considered.
CBs, we have some solid starters, but not so much in the over-abundance dept

by fuji1232 on Jul 27, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you read Raf's reports

he said Barron has been playing well among all the backups.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 27, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

its sad that....

bennett cant seem to see that he has to stay focused and apply most certainly the info and guidance that surely has come from witten a well as his pos coach , much better , or id be inclined to trade him for a quality (need) player or proper draft pick. i wonder what truly goes thru that young mans mind. if i were in his shoes my total focus would definitly be on being the best i could be and enjoy the sport that soo many other colledge athletes never get to experience, wake up man..its time to drop the swaddling and the pacifier than is the intermediam from the life nurturing gift of your mother, maan up i say .

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Jul 27, 2010 2:08 PM CDT reply actions  

oh and hi ya raf...occ..and jimbo

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Jul 27, 2010 2:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Deon Anderson

Have we heard anything about Sicko or anybody else pushing Deon Anderson?

by Holchr31 on Jul 27, 2010 2:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Patriots guard Logan Mankins

Ran into his story by accident.

He’s unhappy, but wants a big contract (that’s his priblem w/Pats).
Probably never happen, but if I was JJ I’d give up 2-3 players if the Pats were willing:
MartyB, Barber, RW, Crayton, Hatcher, Spears, LDavis (would fill their spot), Take your pick Pats
maybe throw in a draft pick too.
Would they do this? Nah, but if it could fit under the cap, go for it.

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on Jul 27, 2010 2:13 PM CDT reply actions  

"Take your pick Pats"

I meant they could pick 2 or 3 of those guys for a guard of that quality.
I have no idea what Dallas’ Cap situation is right now, but you know what, if a real player like this was available, go for it JJ. There may not be another season after this.

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on Jul 27, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know, I think 2-3 players is too much for a guard

I would only do that for a difference maker

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 27, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Jul 27, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

he would be an incredible difference maker

That’s the point!

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on Jul 27, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he were "all that"

he wouldn’t be having a problem getting the long term deal from the Pats now would he?

by jevans1729 on Jul 27, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure he would

That’s the way the Pats (and Eagles) do business.
He’s had 5 seasons, started every game, 2 Pro Bowls (for what that’s worth).

Anyways , as I said, “Probably never happen

But as an “if”, I’d give up 2 players and a pick for this guy and pay him.

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on Jul 27, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry Larry,

no guard is that good. 2 players and a pick? Steve Hutchinson isn’t worth that now or in his prime. Why give up the players if you can just wait and pay him? But you are right, it ain’t gonna happen.

by jevans1729 on Jul 27, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

players that have no role or are talented but 3rd string on your team?

I’m all for depth, but if this team can shore up it’s weakest spot-interior OLine-
at the cost of, say, MBennett and Spears, to stay realistic (no one’s taking RW or barber’s contract)

That’d be a good move to me, guard or not.

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on Jul 27, 2010 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

How can you say that

Bennett or Spears have no role when they are both really starters??!! They surely are not third string. Also, how do you expect to pay Kosier, Davis, and Mankins? Mankins is going to be looking for Leonard Davis money for sure.

by jevans1729 on Jul 28, 2010 6:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Spears yes, I'd hate to lose him, but there are other guys there

Personally, I already thought Phillips looked better than Bennett last year, and to me MartyB may attract interest but on this team he’s soon to be a 3rd-stringer.

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on Jul 28, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Phillips looked better than Bennett"

Phillips stat line was 8 recs for 63 yards and one TD. Bennett’s line was 18 recs for 186 yards and no TDs. I guess actual performance doesn’t mean anyuthing anymore.

by jevans1729 on Jul 28, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

compare the # of snaps each guy had, factor in that MB had one year under his belt already, and the reports coming out of camp so far...

Yup, he looked better.

You’re not really defending MB’s stellar year of 18/186 are you?
  A lot more was expected, and can be had from that backup spot.
He’s a known name for a backup. He could actually draw some interest from teams. I’d love to get something for him.

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on Jul 28, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

The reports out of camp

so far show that Bennett has been hurt so I don’t see how not practicing supports your argument. You said " A lot more was expected and can be had from that backup spot." Well, Bennett is the best blocking tight end as stated by the coaches and catches more balls than Phillips. So exactly what more is it that you want?

Bennett had more snaps because he is the better football player. The fact he didn’t become Tony Gonzalez in his second year in the NFL, is not a crime except to people like you. I can assure you John Phillips will NEVER become a Tony Gonzalez.

by jevans1729 on Jul 28, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here are the numbers

Name…..# of snaps….Thrown at….Rec….%Comp….Yds/Rec…TDs…Drops
Phillips………89…………….4………..3……….75………..13.3……..0………0
Bennett………513………….29………15……..51.7……….10.6……..0………7

Source:
http://www.profootballfocus.com/by_position.php?tab=by_position&season=2009&pos=TE&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=0&numgames=1

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by lonewolfz28 on Jul 28, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

not exactly stellar receiving #'s from MB, huh?

Thanks for that stats, I asume you’re also looking more at Phillips like me

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on Jul 28, 2010 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll take a less physically gifted TE...

 that is consistent and effective over a gifted TE that is inconsistent and less effective.

Time will tell if Phillips can be that guy. He’s looking pretty good right now and when he got chances in the second half of the season. I’d like to see him get more chances in games if MartyB doesn’t pull his head out quickly.

Rabid and luvin' it

by lonewolfz28 on Jul 29, 2010 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

And he got the snaps because he was tthe incumbent...

and the powers that be were/are still holding out hope of him reaching his “potential”.

Rabid and luvin' it

by lonewolfz28 on Jul 28, 2010 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, enough of this

neither of us is going to convince the other.
if you’re satisfied w/what MB brought last year, fine.
I wasn’t. Fine.

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on Jul 28, 2010 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hold on

I’m looking at the guard as a backup.

by Rafael Vela on Jul 27, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

by the way..with no intentions of sidesteppin thread,,but,,,

u dont understand why they brought the de from tech as i think i read was moved inside to ILB pos ??? was that right ?

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Jul 27, 2010 2:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Brandon Williams and Jason Williams

Brandon Williams is the DE that we are converting into an OLB. Jason Williams is the ILB that you are hearing about being paired and compared to Lee.

by Holchr31 on Jul 27, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

umm nop the udfa we jus heard about that they brought in ?

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Jul 27, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh you mean Josh Price Brent?

We got him off of the supplemental draft. They brought him in to probably push Siavii for back up NT. Lessimore is moving between NT and DE but they are projecting him as a DE. Which is funny. I think we are stacked at DE also…

by Holchr31 on Jul 27, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

if i read the story rught didnt we jus bring in a de from tech and move him inside to ilb or was i misreading ?

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Jul 27, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

cook thanks occ...was wonderin on how he was and where he was projected to play ..ty )

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Jul 27, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol more light now ...andi still..cant spell cool right...bows head,,,humbled by my own gaf of incorrectness .....

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Jul 27, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol i dont understand i mean lol

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Jul 27, 2010 2:14 PM CDT reply actions  

lol i need more light herre )

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Jul 27, 2010 2:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Holland?

Is he that bad? I thought he could be a backup.

by Lumberjack90 on Jul 27, 2010 2:16 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Agree

Yea, I want 10 starting o-linemen, but every team outside of our nations capital operates under a salary cap. There’s gonna’ be trade offs somewhere. They are often found in o-line reserves.

by Lumberjack90 on Jul 27, 2010 5:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

no comment on the formentioned wanna be diva wr....)

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Jul 27, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol goood point hheheh

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Jul 27, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

TO

Just in to espn TO agrees todeal with Cincy-1yr $2mil

by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 4:48 PM CDT reply actions  

All they need to do is sign Gordon Ramsay

and their locker room will be the best reality TV show ever!

by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 27, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bryant got the shaft from Parcells.

Bryant would have been a good player had BP not brought his buddy Keyshawn in. Bryant knew that he would never even get a chance as long as Bill had his guys. Sucks to because up to then he was the best receiver on the team. Had pretty good numbers too.

by IdiotCowboyfan on Jul 27, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was a bonehead in college, a bonehead in Dallas, and pretty much every stop since

That’s why he’s bounced around so much. Lots of talent but no brain, plus now he’s always injured.

Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Felix Jones = defensive coordinator's Kobayashi Maru scenario

by APerfectStar on Jul 27, 2010 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

sign says welcome aboard to,,,signed titanic ! lol

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Jul 27, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

now how many players have left dallas and go on to play for other teams and starred there for them...

atm i can only think of the wr we let go and jacksonville picked up and he did well there?

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Jul 27, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

anyone think Marvin Lewis makes it thru the year as coach?

by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 4:52 PM CDT reply actions  

im sure he hasa life preserver on..already heh

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Jul 27, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

reality tv

with all them having thier own shows, camp for them should be fun

by carolinacowboy on Jul 27, 2010 5:55 PM CDT reply actions  

What about Robert Brewster?

I know he is a tackle but his height weight ratio is that of a guard

2009 BTB Fantasy Champ... Deal with it

by quincyyyyy on Jul 27, 2010 6:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I've been surprised by this too

Thought they’d work him at both spots, esp. since signing Barron.

Maybe he’s got more quickness than strength?
Maybe they’ll put him at guard later in camp?

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on Jul 27, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

My guess...

they don’t want to overload him too quickly. Gotta remember, this is his first real camp.

If he keeps stringing together good plays and makes the team (or PS), then they might give him some looks at G later.

Or, if he fails at T early enough, then they might feel it’s worth a shot to give him a look at G before they cut him for good.

Rabid and luvin' it

by lonewolfz28 on Jul 27, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's my thinking too

But after signing Barron, I thought they’d try guard first, you know?

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on Jul 27, 2010 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hear what you're saying.

As far as not trying him at G first because they had Barron…up until these first few practices, they still weren’t entirely sure what they had there.

I mean, Barron could’ve sucked as bad or worse than he did in St. Louis for all they knew. I think they had to at least have another option at backup T. There was a high probability that Young or Tepper weren’t going to work out.

Not to mention, if Colombo didn’t return to form, they were going to need another T there.

Then, you have the uncertainty of Free working out as well as they hoped.

A lot of questions at a couple of the most important positions. If some of those questions get answered, then they might be more inclined to give him a try on the inside. Heck, they did it with McQuistan.LOL

Rabid and luvin' it

by lonewolfz28 on Jul 28, 2010 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

What happened to Bright?

Is he looking good, or no. Seems to be differing opinions so far.

Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Felix Jones = defensive coordinator's Kobayashi Maru scenario

by APerfectStar on Jul 27, 2010 11:55 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm in the...

“too early to tell” camp. I’m not ready to panic after less than a week of practices and him having to learn on the fly against our very good, starting front 7.

Rabid and luvin' it

by lonewolfz28 on Jul 28, 2010 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Phillips > Bennett

Phillips hasn’t had the amount of time or games to compare stats with Bennett but from what i’ve seen Phillips seems to be the better player. theirs a ton of guys with “potential” or “athletic ability” but if it doesn’t translate to production on the field then it doesn’t help the team. if you want to anoint players off potential or athletic ability then Bennett should be better then Witten but thats not the case.
 Bennett has repeatedly made mistakes, droped passes & even run the wrong routes bc he’s just clueless about what to do. its more to playing TE then being an ex BBall standout & if he can’t figure it out by the end of TC then Phillips will pass him on the depth chart, i’m not saying they won’t work him in on a couple packages but so far he’s just to undenpable.
 i would love to see him have a breakout season & become that passing threat, esxpecially in the redzone but i’m just haven’t seen anything to convince me he can get the job done. we don’t need him to be a premiere blocker, we need him to take advantage of the mismatches in the passing game & so far he hasn’t.
 if we could find a decent OL with potential then i don’t see any need for him to be a progress stopper for the guys who get it. plus up to this point he’s done nothing in the NFL & has used his skills to promote himself on the internet more then the football field.
 i wish him the best but i also want the best players on the field & so far Bennett has been close to the best #2 TE.

by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Jul 28, 2010 8:30 PM CDT reply actions  

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