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Cowboys Camp Report 11: Nick City

The Cowboys struggled to maintain sharpness Saturday morning, working their third consecutive practice in full pads.  The 90 minutes workout eshewed the 9-on-9 and 1-on-1 drills from the past few days and jumped directly from the positional workouts into 11-on-11 square-offs.

The coaches put a twist into the day's work, playing the 1st team wide receivers and backs with 2nd team QB Jon Kitna and the second o-line, while promoting Sam Hurd, Patrick Crayton and Kevin Ogletree to the first unit.  The units then worked on red zone and yellow zone plays, starting series just inside the 10, just inside the 20 and just inside the 30.

The switches show that receivers do matter.  The 2nd unit had its sharpest workout, as Kitna had better receivers than he's normally used to.  Romo, meanwhile, had his most erratic workout.  He had to throw away several tosses because he had no open targets to locate.

The workout was the team's 11th in a week, and the minor pulls and sprains are adding up.  Dez Bryant did not show on the field today, but the trainers had a solid eight defense prospects rehabbing in the far end zone:  Sean Lee, Sean Lissemore, Pat Watkins, Jason Hatcher, Josh Brent, Stephen Hodge, Steve Octavien and Akwasi Owusu-Ansah all missed the scrimmages.  The most encouraging news involves Hodge, who dressed in full pads, but worked with the trainers.  He may finally be close to returning to the practice field, though he sports a large brace on his left knee.

Star-divide

Two Hand Wedgies

Joe DeCamillis worked his klckoff return units hard this morning, with special emphasis on his wedge groupings.  Unlike yesterday, where Joe D had single-man wedges, today, he deployed a single two-man wedge, with floating blockers on each edge, who fanned out to handle would-be tacklers trying to crash from the edges of the coverage.

With top return prospect Bryant out, the veteran stand-bys took their turns this morning.  Miles Austin and Felix Jones got their first turns with the top return group.  DeCamillis may have intended to use them all along, but he had used Bryant and Kevin Ogletree in yesterday's initial return practice.

 The team went directly to red-zone 11-on-11 and 4th CB leader Cletis Gordon opened a strong practice by blanketing Miles Austin at the short right end zone pylon, forcing a Romo incompletion.  Patrick Crayton caught a pass front of Jamar Wall for a 1st down, but the first offense's series came to an abrupt end when the surging Brandon Williams sniffed out a Sam Hurd reverse and caused a huge loss.

Kitna led the second offense against the first defense and moved the ball, finding Martellus Bennett over the middle and later hit Miles Austin in the end zone.  Jason Garrett surprised the starters by calling a quarterback draw for the relatively immobile Kitna.  The QB followed strong blocking off the right side into the end zone.  Kitna kept the big guys off balance by faking a rocket pitch to Felix Jones before finding the slumming Roy Williams open in the back middle of the end zone.   Working with the starting skill position guys clearly suited Kitna.

Romo's ragged day continued on his next sequence.  He saw Witten drop one of his balls up the left sideline.  Romo rolled out right on a subsequent play and tried forcing a pass across his body when he found the primary target covered.  Gordon picked off Romo and kept running until he was end zone bound.  Felix Jones gave chase but the play summed up the entire first offense's up-and-down first practice.

On the plus side, the run blocking was productive and consistent.  Leonard Davis is pulling more on traps to the edge and the Cowboys have balance on edge runs, since Doug Free and Marc Colombo can both pull and pull effectively.  Colombo's toss right has been a money run for Dallas, but Flozell Adams wasn't the pulling type.  Free showed last year that he can get out in space and Dallas is running lots of tosses and sweeps to his edge this summer.  

Notes:

It was an up-and-down morning for rookie Jamar Wall, who is trying to keep pace with Cletis Gordon.  He broke up a Romo pass for Sam Hurd but then let Hurd get behind him for a score on the very next play.  On the subsequent call, Dallas ran a quick screen right, and Colombo threw the over-matched Wall onto his backside with a well-timed punchout at the goal-line.   Wall does make plays, but he doesn't have Gordon's consistency at this time.

Fans shouldn't designate Wall to their mental practice squads yet.  He's playing the slot, which shows that he has good lateral coverage skills to both sidelines.  Recall the battle between Evan Oglesby and Alan Ball two camps ago.  Oglesby was the star of early camp, picking off several passes in the first two weeks.  Yet, the coaches kept Ball at the final cut down.  They cited Ball's potential;  Oglesby was a multi-year vet and was likely at his ceiling, while Ball had room to grow.  That decision looks wise today, as Ball starts at free safety.  Gordon has a few camps under his belt.  Wall is seven days into his pro career.  The Cowboys may make a similar decision with him a few weeks down the road.  Or, they may decide to keep both players if Gordon keep producing.  Quality corners are like quality pass rushers or good staring pitchers -- you can never have enough. 

-- Pat McQuistan continues to struggle with agile interior rushers.  Jay Ratliff ate him up with a swim move today.  This opens the door for one of the kids, if the Cowboys decide to keep four guards.  They may just stick with Montrae Holland.   

-- Anthony Spencer uncoiled some strong rush moves today.  He beat Alex Barron around the edge, something few of the team's ends or OLBs have done all camp.  Spencer showed a real burst, suggesting he's not bringing the A rush on every down.  Spencer told me in our Maple Street Press interview (shameless plug) that he' worked hard on his core and lower body strength, so he can turn the corner without slowing down this year.  

-- Trickeration City:  Dallas practiced a halfback toss in the 11-on-air drills and it worked perfectly against a live defense.  Marion Barber waited until the defense committed to stopping an apparent toss run before he raised the ball and flipped it to Miles Austin for a score.  

Quote of the Day :  "He shocked me.  He just shocked me."  A head-shaking fan after Roy Williams dropped a fade from Tony Romo in the left corner of the end zone.  

Don't fret Roy, a lot of your offensive teammates also had shocking drops and throws this morning.  

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nice work raf..thanks

Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!

by scotscowboyfan on Jul 31, 2010 2:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Excellent point about potential vs. ceiling

I think the clock may be fast running for players from the class of 2006 who haven’t made the starting roster yet, if only because there are some younger guys in camp who today look like they might have a higher ceiling.

06 players who may be on the bubble for exactly that reason (Bobby Carpenter is gone already): Jason Hatcher, Pat McQuistan, Sam Hurd, Pat Watkins and Stephen Bowen. Then again, could one of these players become this year’s Miles Austin (also from the class of 2006)?

Decisions, decisions, decisions.

by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 31, 2010 2:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Hatcher and Bowen can play

and will contribute. Hurd will play in the NFL this year. The only question is where. Watkins is living a charmed life, as AOA’s absence keeps #25 in the rotation. Ditto for McQuistan, who survives because the team hasn’t drafted a quality young guard since, well, Larry Allen.

by Rafael Vela on Jul 31, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

i thought watkins was gone last year

but he found a niche. i think he sticks this year too.

by THEjarhead on Jul 31, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's a Very Good Special Teamer

Although that can only carry a player so far. Most people have written him off, but I think he has a pretty good chance of making it again this year.

by kindablue on Jul 31, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats his niche

AOA better get cracking if he wants to push watkins off the squad.

by THEjarhead on Jul 31, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here are the safeties for this year

Ball, Sensi, Hamlin, AOA (remember the potential thing, plus he was very good returner in college), Watkins or Church

Woodson is a Hall of Famer!!!

by I'm a Cowboy on Jul 31, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

church is the x factor

and the one who may push watkins off the roster

by THEjarhead on Jul 31, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm rooting for Church

The only thing that worries me is our best ST will be gone this year.

Hurd and Watkins.

If that happens I hope it doesn’t come back to bite us.

Woodson is a Hall of Famer!!!

by I'm a Cowboy on Jul 31, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

So Far...Church for Me too.

We will have a chance to see Church on special teams soon with Watkins nursing a sore knee. Plenty of camp time ahead to evaluate but so far Church has done a lot right playing defence.

Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.

by 1Bullseye on Jul 31, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Training camp is to see who can survive untill the regular season starts.

The 53 players that aren’t hurt make the roster. Maybe they get the injury bug over with early and stay healthy the rest of the year. Outside Football’s Bill Barnwell may be smarter than we think. OR NOT.

by DIRE WOLF on Jul 31, 2010 3:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Serious injuries?

I don’t see any serious injuries yet. I knock on wood, but the guys out are nicked up. They’ll get to play in the pre-season games.

by Rafael Vela on Jul 31, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't you mean...

Evan Oglesby was battling Ball a couple camps ago?

~Texas Massacre '09~

by TheHeat on Jul 31, 2010 3:06 PM CDT reply actions  

wouldnt be shocked

if Dez returns in 5-6 and doesn’t miss a beat. they’ve seen enough of him now to know what he does well and to design some plays for him.

I’ll feel better when they get off that turf though.

by THEjarhead on Jul 31, 2010 3:30 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't know why Jerry was mad

if players got tangled up. That would have happened on grass, if Bryant had returned kicks or not.

by Rafael Vela on Jul 31, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also no ligament damage from what I've heard so far

Here’s a nice illustration of a high ankle sprain, and if there’s no damage to the ligaments, Dez could be out for as little as two weeks. Of course, it could just as well be 4-6 or even up to 6-8 weeks.

Here’s something that sounds eerily familiar and that Raf wrote last year around this time about Mike Jenkins. Jenkins was back in under two weeks:

MRI results are awaited but it appears cornerback Mike Jenkins may have escaped a serious, long-term injury this morning. He lingered on the turf on hands and knees for a couple of minutes after a passing drill and finally walked off the field unassisted, though slowly and with little ability to put weight on his right foot. He spoke to a trainer on the far sideline and was quickly driven from the field on a cart.

by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 31, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

The absence of a negative

Specifically, I have not read anywhere yet that there is ligament damage, which leads me to conclude – somewhat hopefully – that there is no ligament damage. I may be wrong though.

by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 31, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

i dont see how there cant be

its a question of severity and how he responds to treatment and rest.

by THEjarhead on Jul 31, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ankle sprain by definition is ligament damage; Jenkins didn't have a high ankle sprain

An ankle sprain by definition means the ligaments are damaged. The classification means which ligament.

Jenkins injured his anterior talofibular ligament, which is a faster recovery process.

Dez injured his syndesmosis.

The difference is that the ATFL hurts because the ATFL is involved in keeping the ankle from rolling. So you can put a brace on the foot to keep the athlete from re-rolling the ankle.

The syndesmosis is a set of ligaments above the ankle that act as a shock absorber for the tibia and fibia. The syndesmosis keeps the tibia and fiba from splaying apart as the shock from walking travels down the bones. When these ligaments are damaged it can hurt to walk, hurt even more to run, and REALLY HURT when running and cutting… which just so happens to be what a wide receiver does.

It’s bad, but the only good news is that he doesn’t need surgery to repair the ligaments.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 31, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you a doctor or just play one on BTB? ~grin~

Thanks for chiming in, the non official bloggers on here, US fans and readers, contribute more intelligent information than most paid writers.

I appreciate having a direct comparision, sprain has always seemed to be one of those athletic catch alls and we usually have no way to form an expectation of season long impact or return time.

And with our First Class official crew running this thing, we are truly top of the heap when it comes to Cowboy’s material.

by Travlr on Jul 31, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

either u are a dr

or u just spent the night at holiday inn

by carolinacowboy on Jul 31, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rim shot

Never underestimate the power of a neck brace and wheelchair. In Donnie Walsh I trust!

by Rohpuri on Aug 1, 2010 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!

Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-

by squidlo97 on Aug 1, 2010 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

He was just blowing off steam

"Talent is God-given; be humble. Fame is man-given; be grateful. Conceit is self-given; be careful." John Wooden

by 082288 on Jul 31, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats what I was thinking.

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by Iron Fist on Jul 31, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

i dont think the turf

had anything to do w/dez, but some of the other lower extremity injuries may. lots of practices on turf.

i think jerry was mad b/c dez is his boy and his first reaction was a bit of an over-reaction.

by THEjarhead on Jul 31, 2010 3:38 PM CDT reply actions  

That's exactly how I read it

He sounds like that mom who always wants someone to blame when their kid doesn’t play, gets hurt or has a bad play(day). One thing is for sure J(cubed) is smitten with the young man.

Woodson is a Hall of Famer!!!

by I'm a Cowboy on Jul 31, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

in other news

desean jackson has been carted off the field in philly.

by THEjarhead on Jul 31, 2010 3:54 PM CDT reply actions  

I hope he is ok

I hate to see anyone get hurt

"Talent is God-given; be humble. Fame is man-given; be grateful. Conceit is self-given; be careful." John Wooden

by 082288 on Jul 31, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

That Sucks

I hope he’s okay. I want the Eagles at full strength when we play them; no excuses.

by kindablue on Jul 31, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

wonder what the iggles fans

were saying over the last 24 hours on their blog sites regarding one rookie named Dez Bryant.

by THEjarhead on Jul 31, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

They Were Pretty Well-Behaved

The author of the BGN fanpost on the subject was clearly cackling with glee, but he was jumped on by several Eagles fans who thought he was being a jerk.

The Eagles fan base has come a long way in the last five or so years. The stereotype of a bloodthirsty moron is melting away. The regular GBN fans who come over here are always respectful, even if they disagree.

by kindablue on Jul 31, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

spoken with class

can never blame a man for showing some class

by THEjarhead on Jul 31, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Most...

Althought I’d only say we have two regular eagle fans.

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by Iron Fist on Jul 31, 2010 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nothing regular about Jimmy

He wears a green latex body suit…

FREE THE OGLETREE!!!

by dunkman on Jul 31, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think there is a difference in class between these SBNation blogs

and the real world and other sites. Even the other Cowboys sites have idiots and jerks on them. For some reason the people on BTB, BGN, etc have more class. And more knowledge. This is my new favorite site.

- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"

by fan since '65 on Aug 1, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huh....

looked at BGN’s postings earlier….guess I should of rechecked. Some are not as bad as I expected. Some don’t think injuries are funny. Ok that’s as nice as I can be….

by Wayward Irish on Aug 1, 2010 7:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

some are worse than you could qualify as dignified

we’ve also had some guys get out of hand over here, so we shouldn’t throw stones.

Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK

by HudBaby on Aug 1, 2010 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

FREE THE OGLETREE!!!

by dunkman on Aug 1, 2010 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I want to beat their best.

Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK

by HudBaby on Jul 31, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm so different than that

I got no problem when other teams’ players get hurt. It’s hard enough to win in the NFL, and I’ll take any help the Boys can get!
I don’t laugh and rejoice, but I certainly don’t feel bad about it or wish it wouldn’t happen.

  No one cared when Romo was hurt 2 years ago, or when Ware almost had a season (career!) -ending injury to his neck. It’s part of the game.

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on Jul 31, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

sportsmanship

I agree that I would rather another team’s player(s) get hurt and it makes me glad we can take advantage of the situation. I am sure they call that poor sportsmanship and I am guilty of it. I am also bugged by players from one team helping another team’s players up from the ground. I don’t want a guy from the Redskins, Eagles, Giants, etc. helping one of my guys up after they just made a play on the guy. I sure don’t want ware to help anyone up after he creams their butt. Let’em lay on the ground is my motto. LOL Not really! It does bother me a little though.

Ahab the Arab
I say keep an eye on this kid, this Louie the Looper. He's going places!

by damnarab2 on Jul 31, 2010 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?
I am also bugged by players from one team helping another team’s players up from the ground.

I’m as big a jerk as anybody but a little sportsmanship is always welcome with me. They are playing a game afterall

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 1, 2010 7:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

no doubt it's part of the game

wait until they play 18 in the reg season.

I am of the opinion that in order to be the best you have to beat the best. DJax is their best, so that’s who I want to beat.

I can honestly say the only person I want to get hurt is Ruthlessbanger (big ben) because he rapes women. That is verboten to me.

Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK

by HudBaby on Aug 1, 2010 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

You play the team on the field opposite you.

Would it be nice to beat all the starters? Yes, but it really only adds to the bragging rights. I’ll take any win, any way.

The Gints didn’t feel bad about beating us in the playoffs on their way to the SB. As a matter of fact, they were on DallasCowboys.com before and after the game telling us to quit crying about our injuries (I didn’t know about this site yet).

- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"

by fan since '65 on Aug 1, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

lil bit opposite....

of what Philthy fans said when Dez got hurt. Imagine that.

by Wayward Irish on Aug 1, 2010 6:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

bring surprise there

Hard to believe a receiver can play in the NFL at 175 lbs soaking wet and not get hurt on a consistent basis

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 1, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

All that being said...

And I hate the fact that he is an Eagle, but for a second round draft pick… he’s pretty good dude.

I could make the argument that he’s the best deep threat in football.

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by Iron Fist on Aug 1, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

one trick pony

make that argument but he can’t go across the middle and take a hit, simply not tough or strong enough. I’d Austin over him any day of the week and twice and Sundays.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 1, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

dont like his big mouth

but he does punt returns,so he can take hits..

Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!

by scotscowboyfan on Aug 1, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying I like him more than Austin

but it really sounds like you are just hating at times.

does he go across the middle and take a hit? Probably not.

But if your one trick is good enough that you consistently back DB’s up…. that’s a hell of a trick.

AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.

Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.

by Iron Fist on Aug 2, 2010 7:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Terry doesn't like Desean because Desean refused to carry some vet's pads his rookie year

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by Seanrude on Aug 2, 2010 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

there is that too

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by Seanrude on Aug 2, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

there isnt ligament damage

if anything was wrong there or a tear etc it would require surgery
dcfanatic had a good link about it with a doctor explaining high ankle sprains
he is gonna be fine guys
but Harvin Jackson Bryant all get hurt within 24 hrs
weird

by ChiaCrack on Jul 31, 2010 3:58 PM CDT reply actions  

if you go by OCC's link to all things high ankle sprains

i dont see how there can be a high ankle sprain without ligament damage.

by THEjarhead on Jul 31, 2010 4:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Knowing our team's history the last few years, I'm surprised no one's mentioned how they've consistently underplayed injuries lately.

Remember Nemwman’s "mild ‘sprain that went half the season? There were other cases too.
So I’m taking this worse-case scenario—-6 more likely than 4 weeks, and then running tentatively for a couple of games.
So long to the KO returns until maybe midseason, although I’m OK with that actually. Ogletree’s good enough back there.

I think we’ll see Bryant week 2, at home, against Chicago. Jerry’d love a home debut.

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on Jul 31, 2010 4:45 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't know one way or another.

But I’l say there is a pretty big difference in a 30 year old Newman and a 21 year old Bryant.

It could be worse case scenario, but I think it’ll be closer to him coming back as a limited role in the season opener.

I know he’s talking about trying to get in to the final preseason game.

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by Iron Fist on Jul 31, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Larry, I am with you

I am hoping for the best, but expecting the worst.

Maybe he will turn out to be a quick healer like TO

"Talent is God-given; be humble. Fame is man-given; be grateful. Conceit is self-given; be careful." John Wooden

by 082288 on Jul 31, 2010 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Doc thanks for the update

Since most of us here are not doctors but like to play one on this blog. Its good to know we have one on staff.

Woodson is a Hall of Famer!!!

by I'm a Cowboy on Jul 31, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

FEAR the STAR...it's all or nothing.... time to COWBOY UP.

by .FRoST.USAF on Jul 31, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice explanation, Doc.

Got any thoughts on AOA’s recovery?

The doctor said I have too much blood in my alcohol system.

by White Wolf on Jul 31, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is good news

He has to be way behind on everything from schemes to conditioning, but he will still have a solid 4-5 weeks to get ready for the season

"Talent is God-given; be humble. Fame is man-given; be grateful. Conceit is self-given; be careful." John Wooden

by 082288 on Jul 31, 2010 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right now...

I am giddy with excitement that actual football is so close at hand. Cowboys football!

Woooooo!

Pirates Vs. Ninjas? Psh......Cowboys, baby.

by oneinsider on Jul 31, 2010 5:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Its funny that you brought up Evan Oglesby

because I for one was pretty peeved when they kept Ball over him. At the time I just didn’t see why they wouldn’t reward Evan with a spot after his outstanding camp. In retrospect Ball was a solid 4th corner and hopefully will be an average to good FS (if his TC play translates).

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Jul 31, 2010 5:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Right, and Evan

has done what since then? He’s bounced around, just as he had before he came to Dallas.

We have miles to go before this roster is set in concrete.

by Rafael Vela on Jul 31, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt.

I just vividly remember that decision because at the time I really didn’t understand it. Thankfully, I called that one wrong.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Jul 31, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

as I cement mix the metaphors.

by Rafael Vela on Jul 31, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

No problem

It’s all splilled milk under the bridge now.

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 1, 2010 7:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

very niiiice

Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK

by HudBaby on Aug 1, 2010 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

You can take that one to the bank and smoke it.

How Bout Them Cowboys!

by sprprsnmn on Aug 1, 2010 11:00 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's all numbers

80 men in training camp are worth 53 in the bush.

- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"

by fan since '65 on Aug 1, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm Increasingly

Deferring to what the coaches say and decide. One of the smart things they are weighing is a player’s age. If two guys are close and one is significantly younger, go with the younger guy. Ball is a serviceable swingman in the secondary. Evan Oglesby is still bouncing around between teams, and probably won’t be around much longer.

by kindablue on Jul 31, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think the front office and wade

have demonstrated that they can evaluate and develop talent well, and make sound personnel decisions.

Many forget that wade and, yes, jerry have been doing this a long time now. this is probably hard for some of the press to grasp:

but wade and jerry might just know more about pro football than they do.

by THEjarhead on Jul 31, 2010 5:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Just an innocent little stat

With the season opener against the Redskins to start the 2010 season, Wade will record his 136th regular season game as a head coach in the NFL. That will tie him with Vince Lombardi.

By the end of the season, he will have surpassed Jimmy Johnson and be one game shy of Bill Walsh.

by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 31, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Won't He Pass Walsh

By the time they win this years Super Bowl?

You left the door open and I walked in.

Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.

by 1Bullseye on Jul 31, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's more like you walked into a glass door

The stat is regular season games

BUT…I’m with you. Go Cowboys! Win the Superbowl AT HOME!!

So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?

by NICK L on Jul 31, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

And the Roy Williams Trade

. . . shows Jerry is not too far removed from being bad Jerry

by Iowacowboy on Aug 1, 2010 7:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Someone needs to write a book about just how in the hell that trade got done

How could you give up a first and a third and a king’s ransom of money for a 3rd string wide reciever?

by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 1, 2010 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Seattle was not gong to release Galloway. Detroit was rpeortedly going to cut Roy loose after the season, so Dallas could have had him without giving up the draft picks.

What exactly do you see in Roy that makes you defend him?

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by Seanrude on Aug 1, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

There was a line for RW services including the Eagles. We were coming off of

a season where we were 13-3 and thought he was the next step. TO was struggling. Desperation caused the over pay and bad deals get done.

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The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
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by squidlo97 on Aug 1, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Damn it, are you telling me he could be clogging up the Eagles passing game?

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by Seanrude on Aug 1, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!

Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-

by squidlo97 on Aug 2, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

And that's the difference between organizations

I think some are better than others at not over-paying out of desperation. They have more discipline.

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 1, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

But less championships.

Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-

by squidlo97 on Aug 2, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not defending him

My point was, after the debacle of the Joey Galloway trade it was even more crazy that he would fall for the RW deal. Jerry has come a long ways but that trade is a clear sign that he still falls prey to his own emotions sometimes.

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 1, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

hate the rw trade.

i could see the point if we got fitzgerald or johnson but rw?.
cmon jerry!!
you owe this team a big season rw,no more alligator arms.

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how bout them cowboys!!!

by scotscowboyfan on Aug 1, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh.

Bad trade, but he’s not the first or only GM to make ones.

AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.

Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.

by Iron Fist on Aug 1, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Too busy working around the house, but have been reading the blog a couple

of times a day since camp opened. I still hope to get down to Oxnard when camp moves there. Don’t know yet if I’ll get there. Happy to report that Dallas/Cincy will broadcast locally in Nor-Cal on NBC affiliate KCRA 3, at 5:00pm PDT. Great. Sorry to see Dez go down. I am still looking forward to the game, however, with all the new guys and all the tough competition for roster spots, it’ll be pretty interesting.

Great in-depth reporting going on on this blog. Keep up the good work.

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by CowboyMan on Jul 31, 2010 5:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Leonard Davis pulling more?

I think this question was posed by someone earlier, at the start of camp, but has he lost weight? I see him listed at 355 on dallascowboys.com, but I will admit to not having spent much time in the past checking his weight.. I just know he’s a humongous man, even by NFL lineman standards. If he’s a little less humongous now, that might help him in the open field.

by East Bay Ray on Jul 31, 2010 9:35 PM CDT reply actions  

he's been about 355 since coming to Dallas

But he played at 390 in Arizona.

If he was slimmer right now, it probably wouldn’t be reflected on the website yet…just a guess.

Even at 390, Bigg always looked like he’s in pretty good shape for an O-Lineman.

So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?

by NICK L on Jul 31, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

More is relative

take it as more than last year, and last year he actually pulled, or in Leonard’s case, trapped more. That blowup block vs. New Orleans was on a toss where he pulled right. Bigg’s enormous, so he’s hard to get around when he gets out in space.

by Rafael Vela on Jul 31, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

he is a human wrecking ball

good idea to run behind him. It’d be great if he had any side to side mobility, but if he did… he’d be a tackle

by AustonianAggie on Aug 1, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Miles Jersey #

I probably missed this discussion, but I just noticed in a few photos Miles wearing #2….what gives?

by aggies92 on Aug 1, 2010 2:23 PM CDT reply actions  

just saw this at:

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/07/cowboys-miles-austin-is-sports.html

“A reader points out that it’s odd to see him wearing the No. 2 in the photo. In May, Austin wore the number to honor his friend Derek Jeter and fellow New Jersey native, who wears the No. 2 as the shortstop of the New York Yankees. Austin wears No. 19 for the Cowboys and will continue to do so this season.”

by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Aug 1, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

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