Bobby Carpenter Loses Job to Practice Squad Player
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 12, 2010 5:01 PM CDT
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PrintThe St.Louis Post-Dispatch is reporting that Bobby Carpenter has lost his starting job at weakside linebacker to 2008 49ers practice squad player Larry Grant.
The team is putting a positive spin on the change in the depth chart, noting Grant's improved play during the training camp. They also muttered something about Carpenter's lack of physical play, but I'm sure that was a mis-statement as it would be absolutely shocking to us Dallas fans to hear that Barbie doesn't like to hit.
This seems to be a strong condemnation on Carpenter's skills While not particularly surprising for Cowboys fans and sobering to Rams fans, this revelation is actually great news for one group of fans. It means that those who decried the Alex Baron trade because Bobby Carpenter was destined for a pro bowl season with the Rams will be able to get absolutely amazing odds in Las Vegas of the second team linebacker getting that trip to Hawaii. Contact your bookie today!
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Poor Carp
I remember thinking after that playoff loss in Seattle in which he was clearly the D’s best player that he was gonna be something great. My how fortunes change fast in the NFL.
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poster formerly known as hinduplaya
I thought the same thing
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We all thought he was getting a second chance.
In reality now we might’ve gotten the better end because Barron could potentially see the most playing time,
Semper Fi Do or Die
Projected 2010 Record: 12-4. You heard it here first
I hope he matures
and takes Columbos spot. Not this year but near future
Semper Fi Do or Die
Projected 2010 Record: 12-4. You heard it here first
I don't think there's much doubt that it was a great deal for us.
Most people here called it a win at the time.
The only adamant critic I can remember was quincy who thought Jerry got fleeced hahaha.
I believe
old Spagnolla usually demotes some guy every year to get everyones attention. He’ll work Bobby and Bobby will respond or not, I think not but hey hes not our problem now.
I like what Spags does. But sometimes it doesn't work
Usually soft players..oops…finesse players(don’t want anyone upset) don’t respond that well to things like this. I’m glad we got someone with some experience at the tackle spots for such a disappointment.
Seriously, enough is enough
Carp is obviously not NFL starter quality because there is no way that somebody who is can blow so many chances. After this many years in the league, he needs to be demoted to be motivated? This guy would have been a bust as a 7th round pick.
+1
This would seem to destroy the argument that he was a bad fit for Wade’s 3-4, but would thrive in the right environment. I don’t wish the guy ill, but I do think the evidence is pilling up that he just didn’t have what it takes to be an NFL linebacker. That’s not a knock on him as a person, just a comment that he doesn’t have that extremely rare combination of physical skills and mental toughness.
Come after my cigars, and we will then be discussing my second amendment rights
It's not a knock on him as a person. Sounds like he is a great guy. Romo loves the dude.
but as a football player, he is a bust. in a 3-4, 4-3, or any other system.
I have always wondered
if people would have been less harsh on him if he had just cut that hair.
It certainly might have avoided a rather embarassing nickname.
Come after my cigars, and we will then be discussing my second amendment rights
I've never had a problem with the hair or called him by the nickname. That's not why he is soft in my eyes
I couldn’t care less about his hair. Look at Barber, people love his dreads, which is braided long hair. Anyone want to tell him that braids aren’t manly??? Not me! lol Their hair is their decision. Can be something that defines you, like Michael Strahan’s horrible teeth! lol
Good point
If he had been a good player, maybe his nickname would have been “Sampson”. But he wasn’t.
Come after my cigars, and we will then be discussing my second amendment rights
If you aren't good enough to start for the Rams
What does that REALLY say about your ability?
Underestimate No One, Take Nothing For Granted
by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 13, 2010 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions
It says you are Alex Barron.
Insert pithy statement here.
by Markythearky on Aug 16, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
worst draft pick recently
we could of had Cromartie and countless other real players
thanks Tuna cockbreath
by Archie Barberio on Aug 12, 2010 7:57 PM CDT reply actions
-1
“cockbreath” is not only funny, but it’s original.
And the dude’s nickname was “Tuna”. His breath likely wasn’t very pleasant.
Weren't you told to watch yourself recently too?
And it’s not original. It’s been around for a couple decades at least.
Rabid and luvin' it
Damnsammitt,
It’s not about being offended. It’s about standard of discourse on the blog. Rafael used to have a general guideline that we should post knowing that there are young kids who like to read the blog and they should be able to do that without reading x-rated words.
Also, there are all sorts of ways we can be critical of things and even poke fun at each other without having to resort to bad language. The reliance on cussing to make a point only reveals the poster to be immature, uncreative and ignorant. There are plenty of other football blogs you can visit that are perfectly happy to be composed of swearing and flame wars. This blog is different and the vast majority here like it this way.
Yeah...
I don’t really know why people don’t get that. I’m not offended by language at all, but I understand the rules and abide by them.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
I love the posts on this website, but...
You guys are just as annoying as the posters on DC.com, ESPN, and Yahoo.
Hahaha, we're annoying?
Yeah, but you’ve been a real pleasure to have here!
Your contributions so far have been insulting Christians and political affiliations while encouraging swearing. All those things break blog guidelines that the rest of us manage to adhere to 98% of the time no worries.
If the posters here annoy you please feel free to not comment or even leave. Perhaps you could start you own blog with your own set of guidelines that encourage things you like. Things like the use of manly tough guy language in an attempt to make pointless sentences sound authoritative and the inclusion of completely non-football related moronic and uninformed political and religious generalizations.
by Luke. on Aug 14, 2010 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1111111111111111111111111111
Well said (both of your posts) … and really, it’s kinda simple stuff.
money quote from your 1st post:
we should post knowing that there are young kids who like to read the blog
How hard is this simple standard to understand? Alliteration notwithstanding.
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Well said Luke
I’m counting on him to continue being a rebel without a clue so he can be banned. The sooner the better after reading his insulting bs (see thread below).
Apparently we are a bunch of dummies when it comes to football, and prudes who can’t handle foul language. Not sure why the guy wants to waste his time on our blog.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
by APerfectStar on Aug 15, 2010 4:03 AM CDT up reply actions
It's not original. Maybe to this blog. But it is not original.
I think it falls right in line with the whole CSF, wouldn’t you agree?
I swear. Not on here. I can get my point across without referring to people more esteemed than myself as cockbreath.
I read BGN and BBV fairly often and just feel our content here is much more professional because people here can make valid points without 4 letter words. Sorry some here do not want this place looking like Dallas Morning News.
hahaha
Yeah the commenting on here is much more literate than the crap on DMN and DC.com, but what is professional about a bunch of people that walk on eggshells?
Sorry, I’ve been in the military and if you get offended at language then you need some help, because there are a lot worse things that dirty words in this world.
It doesn't offend me at all.
It just decred’s the poster and makes them look foolish. Like calling Andy Reid “The Fat Man”
I get where you're coming from,
but it’s not about you. It’s about the community as a whole. I couldn’t get offended by language if my life depended on it, but for the good of the community I watch what I say. Would I want my kids growing up reading Cowboys news on here with foul language interlaced throughout? No. It’s just about respect
Semper Fi Do or Die
Projected 2010 Record: 12-4. You heard it here first
Exactly.
I am regularly backspacing out words I start to type but don’t feel are appropriate to be said around kids or women. I don’t have any problems with cussing, there’s just a time and place for it.
Yes because this board is the equivalent of a PTA meeting...
It’s football. The no cussing thing is pretty stupid. Swearing and football go very well together… and beer, and food.
You guys sound like total buzz killers.
Than don't post here dude.
I love to cuss like the next guy, but this is a board set up with policies.
It’s pretty simple, don’t like the rules just leave.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
For the record...
I’m retired military(21 years).
But, what does that have to do with following the rules on a Dallas Cowboys blog? If anything, it should make you know better.
And no, the name in and of itself did not offend me. I’ve been called and called others much worse. That does not make it any less appropriate on this blog. There are times and places where that stuff is allowed and even encouraged. This isn’t one of them.
Rabid and luvin' it
lol you are right
Rules is rules.
No cussing when talking about football. Makes perfect sense.
Now I remember why I stopped posting on here.
You dont talk football.
Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-
With who?
I talk football every Sunday.
Last night I had a great discussion with someone at the poker table about the NFC North and how underrated the Lions are.
putting aside the language issue, your football analysis is weak. Parcells made a bad pick with Carpenter, but he is largely responsible for getting this franchise on the right track again.
I don’t think you are an idiot because you use bad language. I think you are an idiot because your opinions are idiotic
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
My Beer Blog: http://tiltingsuds.wordpress.com/
by Seanrude on Aug 14, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
well then..
When you put it that way, I must be a complete moron. Oh wait. Look up!
I never posted anything Parcells other than his nickname was “Tuna” and his breath might have stunk. By the way, it was a joke about the breath. Tuna breath is not very pleasant but I guess you are one of those flamboyant vegetarians or something and don’t know that.
Maybe you should learn how to read instead of just butchering the English language and thinking you are better than everyone?
Just a thought, dumb ass.
I would think a stud like you would know that Tuna would be more commonly linked to a women.
Yet, thats not the association you made.
Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-
okay...
You are just being immature now.
If you want to talk about that kind of “Tuna Breath” then now whose mind is in the gutter?
Hypocrisy. The number one reason why I find most people annoying.
I didnt cuss. LOL!
Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-
Oh, okay.
So it’s simply about following the rules. Being dirty is okay but just not using cacophonous words. Got it.
Feels like I’m back in middle school around here sometimes.
The principal even gave me a warning because I said someone was stupid. I love internet societies where people are so fragile that they aren’t even given the opportunity to defend themselves anymore.
If you can’t tell. I’m a rambler.
I think more than a few us came here from other sites
went with some of the other sites rules and got lambasted for it. It made many of us a bit angry but after cooling down and spending some time here we came to appreciate it more.
Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-
Please define 'cacophonous'
I do not think it means what you think it means
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
My Beer Blog: http://tiltingsuds.wordpress.com/
I was thinking the same thing.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 15, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I looked it up earlier
but basically, it is a $20 word that is unecessary for the $3 convo he keeps blathering about. Nothing to get excited about, just a kid running around with a dictionary trying to belong to a subculture of his own creation.
Main Entry: ca·coph·o·nous
Pronunciation: \ka-ˈkä-fə-nəs, ˈkȯ also ˈka\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Greek kakophōnos, from kak- + phōnē voice, sound — more at ban
Date: 1797
: marked by cacophony : harsh-sounding
— ca·coph·o·nous·ly adverb
Underestimate No One, Take Nothing For Granted
by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 15, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Someone who can use Google!
Amazing.
Don’t worry I’m done posting with you imbeciles!
I’ll be starting my own blog soon, and will definitely not advertise it to you old-timers and babies.
PS: I don't think you are imbeciles
But I do like to have fun when talking about my passions (like football) and you guys really don’t seem like a fun group… at all.
/logs out
You can't have fun...
while following pretty simple rules?
Good luck with your blog.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
Definition was asked for
Definition was posted. Question for you, youngster, young fun-lovin guy, you young go getter, revolutionizing the world one football blog at a time, where does your analysis come from? Football analysis does not come very natural to you. Your use of the English language is atrocious. The only thing I have seen from you so far are pathetic attempts at childish insults with words that are at least 5 levels above your own comprehension. I figured if you could use Google to find the word, I could use Google to look it up myself. By the way, I am a not-so-old timer type of old timer. I was taught respect for the greater good, and passion for the things you love. At the same time, I seem to have mastered the one thing that you are unable to achieve at such a youthful age, the ability to actually discuss football instead of insult the intelligence of the fans posting here. Oh, and I do it as a Saints Fan at that.
I really hope the blogs you post on your own site are better than the attacks and insults you attempt to register here. If not, you will end up blogging by yourself.
Underestimate No One, Take Nothing For Granted
by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 16, 2010 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually
I learned the word in college.
You know that place with big buildings where stupid people go to get worthless pieces of paper in an attempt to get a better salary.
Or in my case, where you get that pesky little degree requirement for the MCAT.
PS: Sarcasm is not available on the internet, but I have no intention of actually making a blog.
I have heard of college, I have even been to one of them.
At my youthful and inexperienced age, I decided that Jack Daniels and Cheerleaders were way more important than actually learning things though. And to think, I could have earned a degree making close to a 12% of what I make now.
Underestimate No One, Take Nothing For Granted
by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 17, 2010 3:13 AM CDT up reply actions
reply fail
was for saintsfan
by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Aug 16, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Please give us the URL to your blog
If ‘cock breath’ is the least you can do, I cannot wait to see what heights you can reach in both your comic styling and your dead on pigskin analysis
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
My Beer Blog: http://tiltingsuds.wordpress.com/
by Seanrude on Aug 16, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Give it a rest, dude.
You are the idiot who cannot decipher who is posting what.
How old are you?
Probably time for some meds.
I am able to decipher who is posting what
You seem to be unable to decipher who I am responding to though.
If I say “pretty please with sugar and candy on top” will you give us the link to your blog? I don’t think I can live without your deep insights, the clarity of your thinking and your high comic stylings.
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
My Beer Blog: http://tiltingsuds.wordpress.com/
As I am unable to reach the comedic heights of 'cock breath' than you are right, I must be a dumb ass
Given the number of first round picks Jerry has screwed up over the years, what is your nickname for him? Frumunda cheese breath?
Please point out an example of where I butchered the English Language. When you do that, I will point to an example of you making an intelligent statement.
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
My Beer Blog: http://tiltingsuds.wordpress.com/
You do know that...
like 25% of posters here are military are ex military right? I’m not offended by language but I do try to follow the rules, even if I do bend them at times.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
Well, I'm just a jaded bastard who hates rules...
I understand and agree with most of their purposes, but I think we can all agree that those first ten amendments are pretty sacred.
My only difference is that I don’t voluntarily give them up for the sake of being whatever society (in this case a bunch of blog-readers) considers “civil”.
It’d be wasted time to try and convince me that foul language and sports do not coincide as beautifully as whiskey and a cigar.
By agreeing to the rules of this site, your constitutional rights are in no way being violated
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
My Beer Blog: http://tiltingsuds.wordpress.com/
Not only is it not original, it is not even funny either
and Parcells should be thanked, and not sarcastically, for getting this team back on the right track after years of playing like crap with no hope for the future
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
My Beer Blog: http://tiltingsuds.wordpress.com/
AND
What has Cromartie done lately.
He’s had ONE good year.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
One good year?
Everything that I saw and that I’ve heard from San Diego fans is that he had the playmaking hability of an Asante Samuel but overall worse level of play in every of the other areas of his game… Run support, toast rating, etc…
He had a playmaking year, but that was also a year in which he allowed a boatload of plays, that’s why teams kept being as willing to continue to test him.
He was Deltha O’Neal.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Exactly
I keep hearing these guys in the media pump Cromartie up and I can’t remember him doing anything to back that up.
There was a reason that San Diego gave him up for a 3rd rounder.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
I remember a 3 pick game against Peyton
and about 8 children. I think he is a bit overhyped. But he has been hampered by a hip problem for what seems to be forever.
not much wrong,
with his hip if hes fathered 8 kids !!!..
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Aug 13, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Overworked Joint Syndrome?
Underestimate No One, Take Nothing For Granted
by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 15, 2010 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Quincy was an equal opportunist when it came to his vices
His list of arrests after his release from Dallas is incredible.
Fine...
It’s not original, but it is a lot rarer than the normal doity woids around here.
Are you guys all elementary teachers or just noble Christians who are carrying out God’s will to not say words with cacophony?
No, we are just a bunch of guys who love this blog who dont want it dumbed down.
I imagine most of us can cuss with the best of them but we have seen what has become of other blogs so we go with respect. Dont they teach you that in the military too.
You have more posts complaining about every thing BUT football.
Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-
I just hate people...
and besides the main writers on this site, talking about football on here is just painful. The fans opinions are almost as bad as some of the mainstream media.
I like to acquire knowledge, but some of your opinions are just like my bowel movements. Stinky and painful.
Awwww, is that too mean for you football puritans out there?
The comparative civility is one thing that sets BTB apart
It was one of the reasons I started posting here. BTB is about content, not making juvenile insults that have nothing to do with football. I just think most of the posters here pride themselves on being able to express themselves without insults and vulgarity.
And if you don’t agree, you are just a scruffy nerf herder.
Come after my cigars, and we will then be discussing my second amendment rights
Who's scruffy-looking?
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 15, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm having a problem with you honestly.
This is the second time in a month that you’ve bashed Christians(not that I’m a holy roller) but this isn’t the time or place to bring up that and I think it’s pretty rude.
What does someone’s religion have to do with something and why is it your spot to point it out?
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
I'm a new breed; A blog reading, internet using, humanoid.
And I’m dangerous because I don’t give a crap what anyone in the internet community thinks.
Just discount me as a disconnected teen severed from the cognitive world because he watched The Matrix too many times.
Your a disconnected Teen who was in the military.
I think Mayhew has them on the right path. The Lions will be much, much better but I dont necessary believe it will show up in the win-loss column. I cant see them winning more than 5 or 6 games but should be competetive in most.
Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-
Well I'm hoping for 7+
Since a buddy gave me 2:1 odds on that. And I made a bit of a wager. Really think they are primed for a great season with Best playing exceptionally, the major improvements on the D-Line, and Stafford could be a top 10 fantasy QB this year if the line gives him time to throw.
And I’m a father, a husband, and a professional. A bit past the “teen” stage in the life-cycle, too.
I have a disease though. There is a tumor on my brain that makes me behave like an asshole because I can’t civilly connect with the majority of people on a personal level.
I think the talent is there but being young they will lose some they shouldnt.
GB and Minn are loaded(even without Farve) and I think a high percentage of 2nd year players struggle. Stafford will have growing pains. I think he will be a good one but he has a few more knocks coming 1st.
Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-
Chicago is an enigma.
Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-
Well if the line can keep him off his back and healthy...
Then he should get to show a lot more. Having Nate Burleson come should help CJ shine even more. Add in Schefler and the budding 1st rounder they got with Pettigrew, plus Best and you are talking about a lot of talent in their skill positions.
I have a feeling that offense is going to be tough to stop.
Dallas in its 90 season was very similar with rookie Emmitt
2nd year QB Aikman, 3rd year Irvin,(HOFers) and a bevey of high round unproven talent. They went 6-10. You have to learn how to win too. Its not always making the big play but learning to avoid the big mistake.
Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-
its still a mistake to think detroit will take off like we did
their oline needs a lot of work. As does their D.
Add in that they play in a division with the Vikings and Packers, two teams that will make Staffords life absolutely miserable while being able to put points on the board, and I find it hard to think the Lions will win 7 or more games.
But anything is possible in this league I guess. Well except for the Bills making the playoffs.
I think 5 is the smart money. They have gotten better and know I dont think they are close to our old Cowboys.
My point was as great as that talent was(and history proved it) they could only win 6.
I do think Mayhew has improved them and they seemed to have 2 pretty good drafts. Of course following Matt Millen cant help but make anyone look like a genius.
Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-
Carp or Baron aren't starter in this league.
Both players might hang around the league for a while, but they are first round bust and backups at best. Happens all the time, that’s why the NFL needs a rookie cap.
well these guys aren't the problem
it’s the Ryan Leafs, and even Alex Smith’s of the NFL, top 10 picks, especially QBs, who’s entering contracts are outrageous
by AustonianAggie on Aug 13, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
The problem is the early draft choices are over paid.
It takes money away from the vets that deserve it. Revis with the NYJ is prime example, he’s the best CB in the league and is going to make about a million bucks. Some of these rookies are guaranteed 30 times that and have never played a down in the NFL. How much did Russell walk away with? It will take the Raiders years to get over that miss. It’s better for the league, the players and the fans if something is done.
by DIRE WOLF on Aug 13, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The later picks ie Carp
aren’t that much of a problem. Carp really didn’t make too much here if memory serves me correctly. But the ridiculous, seemingly exponentially rising salaries in the top 10 is a huge concern.
He probably got busted for hitting too hard in practice
Beasts like Carp have a hard time knowing their own strength.
by JoeyJoeJoeJr.Shabadoo on Aug 15, 2010 9:48 PM CDT reply actions
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