Cowboys Training Camp Report: Oxnard Practice #4
The Dallas Cowboys practiced in shoulder pads again this afternoon. Practice followed its familiar routine, starting out with a special teams session concentrating on punt coverage. In pre-practice punts, Bryan McCann, AOA, Jamar Wall, Cletis Gordon and Kevin Ogletree were on the receiving end, and even Dez Bryant jumped in to catch the last one although he wasn't practicing. But once the live punts started in the real session, Patrick Crayton and Terence Newman were the return men. Mat McBriar was trying to directional punt, but the wind was creating havoc and some of them were wide of the mark. After team stretches, David Buehler tried 6 short FGs and was successful on 5, with one of them missing badly.
The team broke up into their position groups, although the offense stayed together briefly to run some plays against no defense, many of which were trick plays built around the Razorback formation. They included a double reverse out of the formation with Tashard Choice handing off to Felix Jones who then gave it to Miles Austin. They also ran a fake Razorback where Tony Romo lined up wide but motioned back in under center, and they ran another reverse out of a normal formation with Romo giving to Marion Barber who gave it to Miles Austin. They ran some more standard Razorback plays with Choice running the ball.
After a brief session of position drills, they came together for some 7-on-7 at one end with OL/DL blocking drills at the other. In the OL/DL session, Jay Ratliff was giving Leonard Davis fits with quick moves to the inside. Ratliff was lined up in his spot on a 4-man line instead of his traditional NT spot in the 3-4. Both Andre Gurode and Kyle Kosier had a couple of good rounds apiece taking on Junior Siavii (Gurode) and Igor Olshansky (Kosier). DeMarcus Ware gave Doug Free problems, first going wide with a speed move, then bull-rushing him backwards toward the QB. Sam Young split the decision with Steve Octavien in their two battles, Young pushed him wide but Octavien came back the next time to get around the edge. Jason Hatcher blew up Pat McQuistan, but McQ gave him a good battle on the second go around. Phil Costa had no problems with Josh Brent and Travis Bright more than held his own in battles with Stephen Bowen. The surprising thing is how well the backups performed individually considering how much they seem to struggle as a unit. Staying with that theme, Robert Brewster had two good rounds with Curtis Johnson.
The team closed out the practice with a long session of 11-on-11. Tony Romo had some sharp stretches but also had times when he wasn't his best. Among his good moments was a roll-out under pressure where he hit Roy Williams, and he connected with Roy again along the sideline beating Teddy Williams. Romo hooked up with Austin on deep pass over Cletis Gordon and connected with Crayton over the middle who had lost Jamar Wall on the pattern. Later he hit Martellus Bennett (yes, he was back at practice) who beat Leon Williams. On the negative side of the ledger, Romo was picked twice in the session, once by Bryan McCann; Romo was under pressure on the play from a blitz by Sean Lee. His other INT was courtesy of Cletis Gordon who seems to have a real knack for the ball. Romo also had a pass tipped away by McCann, and had a couple of howlers intended for Witten and Hurd.
So far at Oxnard, I haven't seen Jon Kitna have a very good day. This afternoon he managed to connect on short dump-offs and flare passes, but he had three really poor throws, plus he was picked by Gerald Sensabaugh and almost picked by Mike Jenkins. He's not exactly inspiring confidence. Stephen McGee is getting very limited reps in most of these sessions. He had a run of three completions to Terrell Hudgins, Manuel Johnson and Ogletree. In his other stretch, Keith Brooking had a clean sack and then he handed it off for two runs.
The offense also ran some more Razorback formations. One was a reverse to Patrick Crayton, and then they unveiled the Razorback flea-flicker. Choice took the snap and threw to Romo who had dropped back from lining up as a WR to behind the line. Romo then threw back to Felix Jones who was on the other side of the play in basically a RB position and he was supposed to run the ball (not exactly a traditional flea-flicker). The play took a long time to develop and there was major traffic in the backfield; in a game situation this play probably would have been a disaster. The offense was also guilty of a couple more false starts, Phil Costa picked up one and Pat McQuistan picked up one.
There were times when the offense was sharp, mainly under Romo, but they were also out-of-sync on a few plays;having to re-huddle and they had too many dropped passes. They need to sharpen up going forward, but our defense looks stout and would probably give any offense fits.
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Wilcat?
I wonder if we’ll see any wildcat formations against San Diego? Curious to how much we are practicing this now campared to in SA?
Was at practice... the big suprise was Kunfu Astronaut
Marty Bennett had a great day catching—showed great hands and good movement. Doesn’t evidence any lingering effects of his injury. Honestly, he looks like a man among boys. The guy is just that big. I don’t think TV broadcasts do it justice. When you’re that close to the action, you’re definitely left with the feeling that DBs are likely to just bounce of him.
On the negative side, Ogletree has regressed from the confidence he gained last year (IMHO). The guy seems to not be in the right spot and the ball is bouncing off his hands too often. He just doesn’t seem like a FA who continued to make progress on a surprisingly successful freshman year. Based on practice the last two days, I’d not bet that his spot on the team is safe.
JJ says Columbo will need surgery
"Talent is God-given; be humble. Fame is man-given; be grateful. Conceit is self-given; be careful." John Wooden
Source?
Everything I’ve found so far says they haven’t even done the MRI yet:
http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/news.cfm?editorialAuthor=2
Starting right tackle Marc Colombo sustained an injury to his right knee toward the end of Sunday’s second practice, and will undergo an MRI to determine the extent of the damage.
First indications are that the team is optimistic about the injury, but even if it is found to be a sprain, Colombo could miss over a month.
Rabid and luvin' it
Nevermind...
found where you posted it in the other thread.
For anyone else who hasn’t read it yet:
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/08/marc-colombo-to-have-mri-on-ri.html
Rabid and luvin' it
He'll be out 2-4 weeks, accordin to Calvin Watkins
by East Bay Ray on Aug 15, 2010 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup
Starting right tackle Marc Colombo suffered a sprained knee in practice on Sunday and all indications are that he will have arthroscopic surgery immediately.
He was sent to the hospital for a magnetic resonance imaging exam. But that was just to confirm the early diagnosis by team doctors, who felt surgery is necessary, owner Jerry Jones said.
Colombo will likely be out two to four weeks following surgery, putting him out for the rest of the preseason but possibly having him back for the season opener on Sept. 12
Read more: http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.com/cowboys/2010/08/more-offensive-line-woes-colombo-hurts-knee-headed-for-surgery.html#ixzz0wjMsl0Nm
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Dodged a bullett
Thank god for Alex Barron
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 15, 2010 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
exploratory or minor scope
don’t make it seem like it’s a big thing
"what I have learned in 11 years in the sports business is that the dumbest guys in the room are always the media guys." - mark cuban
Hopefully........
Some of these trick plays they are practicing they are just seeing if they would work, cause any play that takes too long to develop usually always means trouble
This stupid Oline may cost us another year.....
with good players who wont have time to do crap. Its a shame. I would try to pull a trade now before its too late for Romo, Austin, Barber, Felix, Witten, etc…….they’re stil yung but Romo is getting to 30
nah
I actually could see us start to sigh other teams OL cuts this year……they need some experianced depth, like A Barron on the inside of the line
"My days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle"
Take it easy on some of the info
Not that I think that Redskins and other teams are reading our blog to get information on what we’re running but I just say leave the specifics for gameday. I think its enough to say they ran the razorback, not what they did in the formation.
"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." –Vince Lombardi
I would guess that there are scouts from other teams
at these open practices
"Talent is God-given; be humble. Fame is man-given; be grateful. Conceit is self-given; be careful." John Wooden
NFL scouts cannot attend other team's practices unless invited
by Rafael Vela on Aug 15, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I also think, but cannot provide the source for the claim, that
writers for major publications aren’t allowed to be super detailed about what’s going on in practice with the individual plays, either. I feel like I saw one of them (maybe Timmy McMahon back in his DMN days) mention that.
or......
unless you are from a bill belicheck team and bring a camera :-)
Happy Monday
"My days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle"
Give us all the info
If the Eagles want to know our plays they aren’t going to read BTB, they’re going to send their own scout to the open-to-the-pubic practices.
Keep up the great coverage BTB!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 15, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Uh, they can't do this
Open to the public but closed to scouts — unless a team charges admission.
Those are the rules.
by Rafael Vela on Aug 15, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
do you really believe they follow rules?
it wouldn’t be hard to find a spy that could relay info for cash.
Move Over Sweetness, Make A Place For Emmitt!
by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Aug 17, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Might not even need to.
I’ve seen several videos from our San Antonio practices on YouTube. Hard to stop people from taking video with all of the cellphones running around. You’d have to close off the practices or ban cellphones.
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by lonewolfz28 on Aug 17, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
i agree
with technolgy today its not hard to do. also honesty isn’t on the top of any Coaches, GM’s & Owners list entering the season. its all about gaining an advantage in your conference & winning the superbowl.
the days of a hand shake or a mans word are long gone for the most part with so many people struggling in todays economy.
Move Over Sweetness, Make A Place For Emmitt!
by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Aug 17, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
new TE
The Cowboys will add free agent tight end Jason Pociask to the roster as early as today, a source said.
Pociask is former 2006 fifth round pick of the Jets. He spent one season with the Jets. And has since bounced around the practice squad or offseason rosters of the Patriots, Buccaneers, Colts, Panthers and Seahawks.
The 6-foot-3, 259-pound blocking tight end was most recenlty with the Florida Tuskers of the UFL.
Not our best camp
This camp hasn’t started off good. Lots of injuries. Other than Young and Costa a little, no backup OL has stepped up. Ogletree struggling. Romo hasn’t sounded sharp.
Bright side: The defense has sounded good. Maybe we can lean on them this year if the OL struggles.
when did Sam Young suddenly become the be all and end all
Has he emerged the last two days or is he the last man standing?
The guy I was was horribly overmatched.
by Rafael Vela on Aug 15, 2010 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Sam Young
Young looks awfully athletic and seems to be holding his own regularly. Still gets beat badly occasionally, needs lots of experience, but looks like some potential (to me, at least).
by llutherr on Aug 15, 2010 10:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
humm...
Did you see the guy in today’s morning practice blocking for the kick returner? Seemed to me that when he tried to move laterally, he was tripping on his own feet. He’s anything bu nimble. I’ll remain surprised if he makes the team.
He’s not a tackle but the bright spot in the 2nd / 3rd line is Bright.
OL
i haven’t seen any of the practices, but Costa and Young seem to be the only back ups that have had anything positive written about them. They may just look better because everyone else has been that bad. I am sure you have a great read since you are out there. I wasn’t thrilled with drafting Young as our first OL. And McQuestion has appeared to be a huge waste of time. Brewster doesn’t seem to have the tools either. Would you look to replace a couple of those guys with some other team’s final roster cuts and keep Barron and Holland?
by Ryan from DC on Aug 15, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Be glad
That Jerry an Co. drafted a solid RT in Sam Young. He started all 4 years at Notre Dame, and in a pro style offense no less, under Charlie Weis. I like Colombo but maybe this injury is a blessing in disguise and we’ve found our RT for the future. Stay positive. The Steelers and Giants didn’t exactly have the best OL in 07 and 08 when they won the Super Bowl. Additionally, teams that win the Super Bowl typically have to overcome some kind of adversity, let’s see how these guys work through this. Lets get off the ledge and reserve judgment until we’ve played some regular season games.
It's only a dream till you write it down, and then it becomes a goal.
-Emmitt Smith
by Rohpuri on Aug 15, 2010 9:01 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Looks like he'll be back by the start of the season.
But yes, it will give them a chance to better evaluate some of the backups in game time with the rest of the starting line. That’ll give them a better idea of what they have there.
Rabid and luvin' it
I like the enthusiasm...
But Sam young rt of the future? Not saying it’s impossible with a few years of NFL experience and off season training, but I seriously doubt it. What have you seen from him so far? I haven’t heard much…
I’d much rather see baron at rt, or maybe better… Free at rt and Barron at lt, unless baron can’t handle lt… Free was money on the right last season
by CowboysFan4Life on Aug 15, 2010 9:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i didn't like what i saw from Barron at LT
based on what i’ve read & saw in the 2 preseason games, Free seems to be the better LT by a large margin over Barron. Barron played on a horrible OL with the Rams & has a chance to get his career back on track but i have the feeling he’s not there yet. Barron has the size & athletic ability, plus he was a 1st rd pick so their has to be some kind of potential.
right now i think Colombo is the best option at RT but if he has a set back then Barron would get his chance. also Davis’s skills have slipped at RG & we could really use an upgrade asap imo
Move Over Sweetness, Make A Place For Emmitt!
by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Aug 17, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, we'll see on Sam Young
I’m not as bullish on him as you are, not even close. Alex Barron might be our RT of the future and then Colombo can be backup swing tackle for the last couple of years of his career. That would work.
by East Bay Ray on Aug 15, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Sam Young is not the RT of the future
And if he is, Dallas is in trouble.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Aug 15, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
thank you, some sense
Wade says a few nice things and they are ready to go from 3rd string fodder, to solid backup. He is our least athletic lineman imo.
+1 to your comment.
by TONYINCC on Aug 15, 2010 10:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I think he`s the new McQuistan
meaning Pat is out, meaning Sam makes the 53, meaning Sam stays on the roster for 4 yrs and contributes nothing, meaning 4 yrs from now the team realizes he can`t play and then we bring in the new Sam.
how does anyone really know?
unless you can see the future then its hard to say who’s gonna be what. right now NOBODY knows who our future RT will be so its silly to argue the unknown.
Young has enough potential to get drafted but what he turns out to be in the future will be up to him & his work ethic. Young has a high football IQ which is a good start & that can help with his lack of athletic ability.
we can all have opinions & think what we want but it doesn’t mean anyone of us are right.
Move Over Sweetness, Make A Place For Emmitt!
by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Aug 17, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice to think positively, but there's little reason
to think that Sam Young is anything more than this year’s Rob Pettiti.
LOL
Stay positive indeed, now pass that pipe this way my friend.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
by APerfectStar on Aug 17, 2010 4:36 AM CDT up reply actions
YOUNG?!?!
You guys have to be kidding right? If columbo is out, it goes to barron, then brewster. Young is 2 good years of improving drastically of even being the backup swing tackle.
by TONYINCC on Aug 15, 2010 10:02 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Free can play RT or LT
Barron would be a drop off at both spots from Free but I think he would be better suited at LT with help from TE or FB.
I was encouraged by Dave's take on the OL
His comments about the 2nd and 3rd teamers doing ok in individual drills is somewhat encouraging. There’s a reason it takes these guys time to mature, it’s way more mental than most of us appreciate. If they’re big enough, strong enough, and fast enough, maybe some of these guys will grow into being decent.
by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 16, 2010 9:28 AM CDT reply actions
Says it all....
The surprising thing is how well the backups performed individually considering how much they seem to struggle as a unit.
All the play-by-play write ups we have on here focusing on individual players sound pretty good. But for some reason, they just can’t all come together and be on the same page in game time situations. I wonder if it’s a problem with assignments caused by all the different personell packages for the line.
Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable. --
Tom Landry

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