Split Decision: Cowboys 16, Chargers 14
Boxing buffs will tell you that the best fights pit rivals with different styles. Matchups of two heavy punchers frequently produce quick, bloody bouts. Two boxers can shadow each other round after round, producing too few flurries.
Saturday's Chargers - Cowboys game presented two contrasting styles. Norv Turner's offense worked the old '90s Cowboys playbook. He ran the quick slants, the deep 18 yard in, the quick outs and a blizzard of quick screens to all his backs, all the time shuffling in off-tackle runs and tosses to new running back toy Ryan Mathews, who looks like a more than able replacement for LaDainian Tomlinson.
Quarterback Philip Rivers was his accurate, quick self, frustrating a decent Dallas rush with last instant releases that converted 3rd down plays and kept his Chargers offense on the field.
The Cowboys were able to withstand the steady barrage of jabs because their defense landed two haymakers, which knocked out two long Chargers drives. Terence Newman scored the first knockdown when he intercepted Rivers on the Dallas eleven. Late in the half, Bradie James stopped a 13 play Chargers drive when he literally punched the ball from running back Darren Sproles' grasp. Backup strong safety Barry Church picked up the fumble and meandered his way up the Cowboys sideline, before Rivers tackled him at the San Diego 8.
Here, Tony Romo connected with Miles Austin on a stop-fade in the short right corner of the end zone, beating Quentin Jammer and tying the game 7-7 with two minutes left in the half.
The conversion gave the Dallas offense, which had just eight minutes of first-half possession, a successful end to a sputtering half. The patchwork line did a decent job, with backup guard Montrae Holland and tackle Robert Brewster holding their lanes. Offensive coordinator Jason Garrett devised a game plan which helped them, calling three-step drop passes for nearly all of Romo's first half passes.
The drives sputtered because Romo and his veteran receivers lacked sharpness and coordination. Romo had Roy Williams open for an eleven yard out on Dallas opening drive and sailed the the pass out of Williams' reach.
Miles Austin and Romo mis-communicated on a 3rd down pass on the next drive. The third drive lasted just three plays with two of them being an incompletion due to a Williams' slip and an Austin drop of a sprint-out pass on 3rd and one.
Jason Witten added to the sloppy skill position night when he dropped a short Romo pass on the play prior to Austin's touchdown grab.
The offensive line did contribute to Tony Romo's pick, which matched Rivers' miscue and put San Diego on a short field. On a 3rd and 6 from the Dallas 26, the Chargers ran an overload blitz at the right side of Dallas' line. The end and outside linebacker to Romo's right crashed down while inside linebacker Stephen Cooper looped into the B gap wide of left guard Leonard Davis. Davis lost Cooper, who charged directly into Romo's face. Romo threw for Austin while bailing out and his rushed toss was intercepted by safety Eric Weddle at the Dallas 40.
The Chargers offense had been very efficient on its opening drive and this time it completed the project. Keith Brooking broke up a 3rd down pass for Antonio Gates, but San Diego tried on 4th and 5 and converted when Gates gained seven against Church, who replaced the injured Gerald Sensabaugh two plays prior. Sensabaugh dove for Mathews on a Chargers sweep and landed with his arm extended. Sideline reports said Sensabaugh's shoulder popped out of joint. The shoulder popped back into place and stadium x-rays were negative, but he will likely get an MRI to give a more precise assessment of the injury.
A Mathews quick screen gained 12 and three runs moved the Chargers to a first and goal at the Dallas one. The defense stuffed the Chargers twice before Rivers broke the end-zone plane on a 3rd down sneak.
The second half saw the second units trading blows. The Chargers scored first after Billy Volek found Seyi Ajirotutu behind Cletis Gordon and Danny McCray, who mixed up their coverage. The bomb set up the Chargers inside the Cowboys five and they scored shortly after.
Jon Kitna led a 63 yard touchdown drive in the 4th quarter, relying on Martellus Bennett and Sam Hurd. Bennett converted two third downs and then pinballed between two Chargers defenders on his way to the end zone.
Dallas grabbed the lead when Victor Butler stripped the ball from the Chargers QB Jonathan Crompton. The ball rolled into the end zone, where a Chargers lineman recovered it, giving Dallas a safety.
Notes:
-- Keith Brooking claimed his injury was a "mild AC sprain. If this was the regular season I would put a pad on it and roll."
-- Norv turner gave Dallas plenty of screen practice. He called four in the first half, by my count and at least six in the game.
-- They make the exceptional ordinary. Cletis Gordon made a one-handed interception in the 4th quarter. As I mentioned several times in my San Antonio reports, the corners practiced this type of catch almost everyday.
-- Martellus Bennett blocked everything put in front of him. The big first half running play was a nine-yard toss left to Marion Barber. Bennett shoved the San Diego DE inside, while Doug Free pulled wide and rolled a linebacker. Bennett had other strong blocks and caught four passes, the last a game-tying 4th quarter snag.
-- Sean Lee entered the game early after Keith Brooking hurt a shoulder. Lee showed the ballyhooed instincts. He made or assisted on the tackle on four of his first five plays. When the Chargers were trying to come back late in the 4th quarter, Lee blew up the 3rd down play by flying in off the right end to trip the running back for no gain. On 4th-and-1, Lee stuffed the fullback in the hole and stopped the runner cold.
-- Barry Church looked fearless attacking runs in the box. I'd like to see more of him in coverage.
-- Robert Brewster got help with short drops but kept Tony Romo clean. He again played the first half at right tackle and the second half at left tackle.
-- Rough night at the office for Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, who had trouble hanging onto his early returns. He had a long 4th quarter return nullified by a block in the back. More of the latter, Mr. OA.
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Good to hear the good news on Cletis Gordon
We need all the CB depth we can get.
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I had my doubts since I have only seen the games, not the practices
But he looked like the real deal and definite lock for the #4 spot, McCann in the #5. I was impressed.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
by APerfectStar on Aug 22, 2010 4:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Chargers fan. Gordon used to be ours.
His nickname was “Flash.”
What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders!
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 22, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm gonna start calling Raf "Flash"
Man your quick to blog.
Damn Raf is so fast
Going to read it now.
by Cowboysaficionado on Aug 21, 2010 11:18 PM CDT reply actions
Pretty good game bro
They need to get americas game out to americas finest
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 21, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats what I keep saying to Armed Forces Network!
Instead they put these 3rd rate other teams on…Seahawks Packers? Who cares? LOL
Man no kidding
I was in the DFAC this morning trying to catch the game and it’s the Packer’s third string against the Seahags’. Blech.
Thanks for the update Raf. Great stuff – except of course for the injuries. I like the results we’re seeing of their work on turnovers, but it would have been nice to hear about better offensive efficiency. Oh well. Can’t have everything.
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That was great news to me
We’ve all feared Keith “The HIghlander” Brooking getting injured, so Lee’s apparent readiness is significant. We haven’t had “that guy” at ILB for several years.
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I didn't mean to start answering myself
this was supposed to follow Brandon’s comment on Lee. Oh well.
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Lee was everything you imagined from the reports of camp, and draft prospectus
Made critical plays in crunch time. Stepped in and played very well. With a few games under his belt midway through the season, I’m already salivating just thinking about it.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
by APerfectStar on Aug 22, 2010 5:00 AM CDT up reply actions
his run stuff on 4th down
was classic mlb play…
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Aug 22, 2010 6:06 AM CDT up reply actions
It was like a training film for future MLB's
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
by APerfectStar on Aug 22, 2010 6:08 AM CDT up reply actions
yes..weve got a good one there..
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Aug 22, 2010 6:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Bobby Carpenter
would have been moving backwards on that play.
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lol
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Aug 22, 2010 6:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Carp would have been on the bench.
Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-
We watched him on every snap.
And he looked like a banger to me. He initiated several violent collisions. The way he was shedding blocks and collecting ball carriers was quite impressive. He takes his first step at the snap, and meets the ball carrier at the LOS. I can’t wait to see what he can do with a little experience.
The only time he got blown off the ball was when he was hit by three successive blocks. It may have been orchestrated because it looked like three chargers sought him out to block him. Wade and company knew something about Sean Lee when it appears no one else did. He looked like a top 15 rook last night.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.
He looks like the guy we needed
Brooking only has so much left in the tank. We knew when we got him that he was a linebacker running out of tread on those tires. Even so, he overperformed and did well for us last year.
But we know he’s not a long-term solution, hell, he might not even be a solution for this year. You just don’t know with guys who have that much wear and tear.
So thank god Sean Lee is looking like the guy. Great instincts and amazing physical prowess. His physical tools are excellent. He showed so much strength stopping fullbacks and ripping ball carriers to the ground. And his reaction time is great, he reacts fast.
I love what we’ve seen, he looks like a guy that deserves to be standing next to Ware and Spencer next year. I’m very excited about his potential.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 22, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Money Quotes:
Wade and company knew something about Sean Lee when it appears no one else did. He looked like a top 15 rook last night.
and …
So thank god Sean Lee is looking like the guy.
For all the guys that have slammed Jerry, Wade & Co for the Barbie pick, I hope they find the time to admit when the front office not only gets it right … but were ahead of every other FO in the running :)
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Luke luke luke...
That aint going to happen brother.
These are the rules:
Jerry gets slammed for every mistake.
Everyone else gets credit
You can also apply those rules to Jason Garrett.
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LOL to BOTH!!!
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
And Wade, don't forget Wade.
He got blamed for Camp Cupcake. Now he’s getting blamed for working them too hard. All together now:
Jerry, Wade, Jason…and okay, Joe D, grab their crotches and shout, “Blame this m’er f’ers!”
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.
Who is blaming Wade for working them too hard?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Don't pop your top, it was a joke.
On to the next person trying to have a laugh, huh Bling?
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.
Lee is a BEAST!
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 22, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
that’s the way to beat a lead block, get to the POA earlier than him and wreak havoc.
beautiful execution.
We’ve had to live with average play from the ILBs for some time now. It’s encouraging to see someone who is a baller.
It's funny you say that
I was trying to remember the last time Dallas’ LB corps was a strength. It’s been a long time, but I really think they are finally getting there.
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Mixed Bag
Offense looked out of sync, but scored in the red zone. Defense gave up lots of yards, but had key turnovers. Defensive back-ups made some nice plays by Cletis, Church, Butler and AOA. Really liked McCray on special teams. It will tough to keep him off the roster. McGee still looks lost. Kitna is clearly outplaying him and that is not saying too much. Welcome back Bennett. Loved all the Cowboys fans at the game!
by Silver Bullets on Aug 21, 2010 11:29 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
mcgee doesn't seem to have 'it'
from all accounts, he’s smart and a hard worker, but he’s just indecisive out there. i don’t know how they can coach that; do guys really get better at it?
I think you have to attribute some of that indecisiveness
to the line he has to play behind.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Aug 22, 2010 3:48 AM CDT up reply actions
And I don't remember that Romo guy being all that after only two preseasons of play
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I would like to see the stats
I could be way off here, but I thought I remembered Romo impressing me from pretty much the get go. My buddy & I always wondered why Parcells kept him under lock & key. I hear the point you are making, but let it be known, Romo is, was, & will be a very special talent.
This is the way
you could tell Romo had moxie and a command of the offense
that McGee simply doesn’t have. Romo trusted his instincts and didn’t play afraid. Comparing the two is a joke.
In Romo we Trust
No, they don't
I was a pretty good athelete and played rugby at Annapolis, but looking back I have realized that I did not have “field vision”. I would get tunnel vision instead. It has been said that the reason Wayne Gretsky was so great is because he could see the entire rink and was way ahead of the play and puck in his mind.
Admiral Arleigh Burke said “the difference between a good officer and a great officer is about ten seconds.” He was talking about decision making during the chaos of battle in World War 2.
It applies to QB’s also, but instead of 10 seconds it is probably only one second in the pocket. At the NFL level, the brain is what makes the difference between good and great and if you don’t have it, it can not be coached or practiced.
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by fan since '65 on Aug 22, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
All excellent points and I agree
But it’s still too early to give up on McGee. I am willing to bet Roger didn’t see everything 3 ps games into his 2nd year either.
by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 22, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure, I agree
I am not giving up on McGee, just making a point about field vision and the speed of decision making. They are all great atheletes. It is the mind that separates the great from the good and that cannot be taught. Stephen Hawking and Albert Einstein have better minds than me and there is no way I can ever be taught to be that smart.
That is an extreme example, but you get the point.
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by fan since '65 on Aug 22, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I do get the point
But my point is that very few guys develop that vision with the amount of snaps McGee has had. You have no way to tell yet if he will or will not get it. It sounds to me like you think he doesn’t have it. I don’t know. I’m keepin my fingers crossed that he does. He has the physicial tools if he does.
by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 22, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know if he has it or not
It can be developed some through practice and repetition, IF it is there to begin with. I am not arguing with you. I am just saying that if you don’t have it, it can not be taught at all. And I mention it because g8tgod asked above if it can be coached.
Also, hasn’t that been the line on McGee all along? That he is slow in his reads and decision making? So I am just thinking that maybe he doesn’t have the mental ability to think fast enough in the pocket. I am not slamming him.
Think about this: of the 32 starting QB’s wouldn’t you say that only about 15-20 of them have the mental ability to think fast enough in the pocket to be great?
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by fan since '65 on Aug 22, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Because all 32 starting QB's have the physical ability.
At the NFL level, it is the mind that separates the great.
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by fan since '65 on Aug 22, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
All I know for sure
Is that at least half of the people who commented on Staubach after 1 yr + 3 ps games would have said he didn’t have it. They were wrong.
by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 22, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I can buy that
But then again, he did spend 4 years in the navy (one in Vietnam) and it could have been the layoff from playing.
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by fan since '65 on Aug 22, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
There was a lot of talk of the team
and Staubach being “chokers” because they seemed to lose the big games.
IMO that big game stuff is all media mythology, though. If you can succeed week in and week out in the NFL, the “big games” aren’t really that much bigger and a choker will be found out long before Super Bowl Sunday.
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After Landry made him the starter
in mid season of 1971 all he did was win 7 games in a row in the regular season and then win the SB. Staubach was never consider a choker, but it was said that Landry couldn’t win the big one.
Lock n Load
I was around then too
I guess the point I’m trying to make it most people aren’t expected to have that kind of vision at the point in their career where McGee is. I remember negative comments about Staubach early in his career having to do with running to early and often. That wouldn’t be a guy who was seeing the field real well.
by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 23, 2010 5:47 AM CDT up reply actions
It's also what Emmitt had over faster, shiftier backs
Incredible vision, along with superhuman balance.
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Guys who stood out to me
Brewster, Bennett, AOA, Butler, and Gordon. All played hard and well. The offensive line as a unit looked bad though, got the protections all messed up. Romo was pissed.
Um...
Sean Lee.
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 21, 2010 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I think that McCray guy had another great game on ST.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 22, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
one of those games where i am not quite believing we actually won lol.
so much not to inspire confidence.
while we didn’t have much, we had the two big things we’ve been missing, takeaways and red zone scoring, and those saves the day.
we did see some good things from some guys we’ve been waiting to see play…
Martellus looked very good, in sync with Kitna and confident in his catches, hard to bring down. And continuing very solid as a blocker. If only this time the receiving part continues into the season.
Sean Lee looked fantastic, that 4th down stop on the final SD drive was a thing of beauty, shoot the hole, shed the lead blocker and tackle for a loss. picture perfect. he was around the ball constantly and his tackles were strong. Can’t wait to see more of him.
Akwasi did look good on his return that was called back, he showed some nice wiggle that I could see him being a dangerous return guy, and if can be dependable on the catch.
good game summary
what happened to the middle of the starting oline?
romo was in jeopardy ..something bad happening between the center and guards?
sean lee was impressive close to the line of scrimmage
chargers offense looked sharp and they got a real running back or 2
was a good test for the cowboys tonite
Thanks for the article, Raf ... and thanks for the additional info from everyone above
I’m looking forward to hearing more about individual play on the O-Line, as well as more news on AOA and the other LBs.
I luv how quickly this write-up was available :)
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Dunk!!!
I’ve been on a small reconnaissance mission … only been reading/lurking a bit and by the way thanks for all the laughs you inject into BTB :)
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Holy Crap!!
Those operatives we sent to the far east must have been successful. Your passport is waiting at the predetermined location.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.
Dunk had me scared shirtless about you
And that is an ugly sight at this point in my life
by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 22, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Wolfie's got you on the payroll, huh?
Be careful. They will drop you like yesterday’s girlfriend as soon as they have no more use for you.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Trying not to think of a shirtless StillHate .......... still trying ...
And still waiting for the first BTBer to show up on my doorstep and make us of my “connections” … then maybe we can talk about whether I’m redundant :)
(Wolf, sorry about your operatives … easily distracted and last seen singing and wandering up Bangla with what I sincerely hope were females :)
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Er, I sent females.
Don’t tell me you sent them off with some dudes from Phuket. I love it when a plan comes together.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.
Damn keyboard
it’s not only gummed up, it’s got all these ridiculous letters on it. Like ق غ م
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That's Akwasi Owusu-Ansah in Thaiwanese.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.
Is it just understood
that we refer to Akwasi Owusu-Ansah as AOA? I never wanna type that name ever again
I don't really like saying AOA
I think I’m gonna keep saying Akwasi. It’s a nice sounding name :P
by Cowboysaficionado on Aug 21, 2010 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions
He goes by Kwaz according to teammates
But that’s an extra letter to type, I think AOA has already stuck
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
by APerfectStar on Aug 22, 2010 5:03 AM CDT up reply actions
I've started using AOA ... but Kwaz is way cooler :)
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I have to use AOA
I’d never be able to spell his whole name without a cheat sheet
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I hate saying AOA
Its “The Ansah” for me.
by starmesh23 on Aug 22, 2010 9:15 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Ansah is good.
But Kwaz is what his teammates tagged him. However you say it, the kid can motor.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.
Nice
“The Ansah” is way way better than AOA
Joey
Been busy?
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I'm back!
I’ve been seriously, scandalously, derelict in upholding my status as Cowboys superfan.
haha...
more like superass
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aren't we all a bit of each? :)
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Didn't get to see, and could only read through the comments-so what's the final opinoin on Kitna?
Early on everyone was critical and calling him Brad Johnson.
But then he led some drives, but against more backups.
Overall grades?
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It seems like hes perpetually trying to knock off the rust
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 21, 2010 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions
You don't get many reps when you're not the starter
And I expect game speed is the hardest thing to regain when you don’t get many reps.
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I was one of those people.
I didn’t compare him to BJ, but I was concerned. He’ll do. This isn’t the days where we had Beurline or Kosar though.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.
Kitna looked good on that one long drive.
He def showed he doesn’t have a weenie arm. Threw outs sharply and found open receivers.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 22, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
that's good to know, and specific, thanks
Maybe he takes a while to warm up, get in the flow.
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by Realist Larry on Aug 22, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
So it was McCray on the busted coverage?
I thought it was Church. Good to know.
by Cowboysaficionado on Aug 21, 2010 11:41 PM CDT reply actions
Offense looked pretty bad especially Romo ...
Just looked out-of-sync with the receivers. Don’t know if that’s his fault or theirs or both. Had some pressure by only gave up one sack. Not bad by the two Replacements on the o-line. Defense looked good. Got caught with their pants down with the long completion and the scoring drive, but overall there was pressure and turnovers. Felt good about that.
I’m concerned about the offense, but this is still preseason. I just refuse to believe a unit with so much talent will not eventually come around and produce the points and numbers I expect them to.
I hope I’m right. Cause I think we’re walking into a buzzsaw Week 1. The Deadskins are going to make life really difficult for us. I hope we come out and smash ‘em in the mouth immediately and not give them hope and let them hang around. Establish dominance from the jump. I have confidence the D will. I’m still waiting on the O.
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I'm going to have to watch the game again.
But I just feel like Garrett kept the offensive calling so very vanilla and barely gamplanned for the Chargers. There were basic sets, and hardly any aggression at all.
Still, would have liked to have seen some actual execution of the calls that were made.
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 21, 2010 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
Garrett kept it vanilla and was not his usual aggressive self due to the OL instability I imagine. What made me sick was the same problem as last season with Roy and Romo, being on different pages. Plus trouble running the ball, EXCEPT for that beautiful run behind Free, wow he can run block. Pushed his man 10 yds downfield.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
by APerfectStar on Aug 22, 2010 5:09 AM CDT up reply actions
You can't argue with the gameplan: Keep Romo alive
There isn’t a QB in the league that doesn’t struggle under constant pressure. It’s more understandable from a newbie like McGee or rusty ol’ Kitna … but it isn’t so surprising to see Romo working out some kinks after the off-season.
I’m not too worried about what happens in these preseason games… it couldn’t hurt to be a bit humbled at this stage of the game.
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That's what I was thinking.
It’s better to have the poor outing now. Romo just isn’t the kind of guy who takes one step and fires. He needs to run around and let the play develop. He was under orders to get rid of the ball and he followed orders.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.
On the "run around and let the play develop" theory ...
I’d love to see JG call more roll-outs. Why is this such a rare sight?
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They're scared Romo might see a chick if he gets too close to the stands.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.
Anyone know if there's a repeat broadcast today?
On local or NFL Network?
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
by Uncle Angus on Aug 22, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
I think there is one on the NFL network.
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if it makes you feel any better
Redskins struggled today, lost 23-3 to the Ravens
Donovan McNabb completed 11 of 26 passes for 206 yards with one interception for
the Redskins (1-1). He frequently threw behind receivers and often was pressured by a Ravens defense that took advantage of a Redskins offensive line that has three new starters.
our offense meanwhile really did just look off, unfocused, out of sync. miscommunication and drops by usually reliable players.
the first team D was pushed around pretty bad on the first drive until TNew’s pick, and on the short field on the next drive they gave up the TD. There were some good signs but I didn’t find their performance very encouraging overall.
the offense all depends on the oline.
McNabb
has been overrated for 4+ years now. He’s never been accurate — among well-though of starters I’d say he’s always been one of the most inaccurate — and he’s no longer the physical player he once was. Recall that awful play against us with the 10+ second scramble several years ago. And then recall last year when we was tripped-up by our 4th round draft choice on third down.
He’s just not scary any longer. Bring ‘on the deadskins. They’re what the doctor ordered for us to get our groove back on.
I agree, and this is why I think the Eagles will be better
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by run4life82 on Aug 21, 2010 11:47 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Nice!
And a good deed as well, sir.
by Cowboysaficionado on Aug 21, 2010 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
yes indeed
"Talent is God-given; be humble. Fame is man-given; be grateful. Conceit is self-given; be careful." John Wooden
Good job
On TV it seemed like there were more Cowboys fans there, at least 50/50.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
by APerfectStar on Aug 22, 2010 5:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I would say 35-40 percent of the people were cowboys fans, and it was generally the louder group
by run4life82 on Aug 22, 2010 12:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Looking atthe first half of the game
The Cowboys were dominated on both sides of the ball.
I cannot believe that any Cowboy fan can be happy with any aspect of their play.
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any aspect besides the score i assume
you CANT be dissatisfied with the fact that although the chargers appeared to move the ball at will, they only came away with 7 points in the first half
and in fact, we were tied at the half
yea i’d like to see the offense play a lot better and the defense not give up so much yardage, but the only part of hte game that REALLY matters is the scoreboard.
preseason is about individual play
not team play. I understand that. I think the individual play of the players that had question marks was fine.
The score could have easily been 21-0 at the half
I don’t care if it is a playoff game or a practice against air you want to play well. Dallas did not.
SD had the ball four times longer
First downs were something like 14-2
49 total yards for the starting offense
before the TD pass Romo’s QB rating was 2.9
If church had not been tackled by a QB the starting O would still be without a TD
Raf if this was a price fight it would not have been a split decision it would have been a TKO
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And if the dog hadn't stopped to pee, he would have caught that rabbit
If don’t mean crap. The team found an ugly way to win, which beats the heck out a beautiful loss any day.
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we will have to agree to disagree
If I am a SD fan I am am happy with the way the their team dominated ours.
I will take an ugly win in the regular season any day. I could care less if the team loses in the pre season as long as they are sharp. And they were not sharp
"Talent is God-given; be humble. Fame is man-given; be grateful. Conceit is self-given; be careful." John Wooden
Sure
But the fact is, there were a lot of things to be happy with.
Did you watch the game, or just look at the stats?
If you looked at stats only, you’d be depressed. If you watched the game , you wouldn’t be as depressed.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
by APerfectStar on Aug 22, 2010 5:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I was able to watch the 1st half on line
though far from perfect, At the commercial break right before half time if froze and I could not get it back
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Who cares what the score could have been?
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 22, 2010 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I only brought up the score because someone said
we should be happy even though SD marched up and down the field at will against the Cowboys starting D they only scored 7 points.
"Talent is God-given; be humble. Fame is man-given; be grateful. Conceit is self-given; be careful." John Wooden
I have to largely agree here...
especially about the TKO comment. However, there were certainly positives, largely defensively. The one bugaboo we have all been complaining about has been the inability to create turnovers. And given the final score, I think it only goes to reinforce OCCs 3 part series on drive killers.
Having said all of this, if this was a regular season game, I would be happy. I think part of the problem was alluded to in the write-up by Rafael and a comment above: Romo is not a 3-step-drop passer. Given more time to assess the field (and get sacked), Romo plays better. However if your goal is to not get him killed, what options do you have?
One thing I did like
Was the play of the starting coverage. Lots of good play against a difficult group of recievers to match up against.
The way the front 7 got played like a fiddle on runs and screen was worrisome.
The offense was a horror story
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 22, 2010 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Some more positives:
- Sean Lee on pretty much every play
- Marty B showing flashes he might just become the guy we thought he was
- The defensive back play has been so good that we’re no longer worried about depth, we’re worried about how much it’s going to hurt when roster cuts come and some of these guys have to walk.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 22, 2010 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions
+1 on all counts
good point about the CBs … the scouts are rocking with UDFAs
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Not only the CBs, but the safeties!
Last year they went with 9 DBacks
1) Terrence Newman
2) Mike Jenkins
3) Alan Ball
4) Gerald Sensabaugh
5) AOA
6) Mike Hamlin
7) Open
8) Open
9) Open
You’ve got McCann, McCray, Church, and Gordon who all deserve a spot. And that’s just assuming we’ve already kicked Pat Watkins out the door.
McCann, McCray, Church, and Gordon: which one of those do you cut?
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 22, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I think you forgot scandrick
they could try and sneak some (all but Gordon qualifies) on to the practice squad.
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I knew I was missing one!
You almost forget Scandirck in all the excitement over this secondary.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 22, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you forgot
Scandrick for #7. Now there are only two spots if you drop kick Watkins. I’m betting Gordon gets one spot. As for the other who knows? My instincts say safety because of Ball and AOA. I don’t know that Hamlin is a lock but we’ll see.
Right now?
Gordon and McCray stay.
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by lonewolfz28 on Aug 22, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
yea check out my shot at the 53
scroll up on the right side of the page but your right it`s a tough situation, I went with 10 db`s and left Church out for the PS but last night`s performance will help him.
Church makes it I think
Watkins was Sensi’s backup. I don’t see any way they’d keep Watkins over Church at this point. And there’s no way he’d pass thru waivers in order to get him on the PS. I really liked the way he played. McCray might be the ST demon, but Church was getting it done with the 1st unit defense, and that’s more important to me. Especially since Sensi has trouble avoiding injury.
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by APerfectStar on Aug 23, 2010 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Wasn't pretty. The O line looked bad at times, but I'll own that Holland didn't stink it up
on the first team as I feared he would. Of course, the first team O didn’t play much, so it’s hard to tell. Romo looked uneasy and unhappy some of the time and was barking at his line at one point. Apparently he CAN throw a fade, contrary to what some have argued.
The D? Don’t know what to say about that, but I did like what I saw from Lee.
There were a couple of line faults...
but I think Romo and receivers were mainly at fault for the slow O.
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Romo and the receivers didn't look sharp or on the same page, but there were more
than a couple of line faults. They couldn’t run block to save their lives, and Romo took one in the face thanks to Bigg. All of that is a bit concerning, since they’re manifestations of the same problems that have haunted the Cowboys for a long time now. But, as others have pointed out, it is preseason, JG probably was calling a vanilla offense, etc., etc. As someone (Brandon?) said, it would have been nice to see them execute the vanilla a bit better. The D play is bothersome, but this IS San Diego we’re talking. They just seem to have the Cowboys’ number.
They weren't getting Romo killed though.
I think that was the main concern going into the game wasn’t it?
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Yes, he kept his head attached to his shoulders. As I said elsewhere, Holland
did a better job than I expected in the whole six minutes the starting O was on the field, but I’m not going to concede that they looked great just because Romo isn’t dead. Of course, if that is all the team was aiming for, then the O looked awesome.
He had time though too.
I mean he had time to throw more than enough times.
Isn’t that what the offensive line is supposed to do?
Now the run blocking was… ugggg, but besides a couple of plays, the pass protection was more than adequate to make plays behind.
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I guess I didn't see it that way, and I haven't watched that mess again
in order to check it. He seemed hurried, out of sorts, uneasy about the pocket. Maybe some of it was in his head, but I don’t think all of it was. I’m not absolving Romo; he and his receivers mostly sucked. But I didn’t feel like anything on the O was “more than adequate.” Well, except for Marty B. He actually surprised me with how well he played.
I get what you're saying.
What is aggravating about last night, to me at least was that the line was maligned but gave Romo enough opportunities to get the ball to his wr’s on the quick hits.
Also I loved the rollout play, that would have worked if the ball was accurate and Austin had caught it.
There was alot of bad timing and bad throws that could have made the offense less disgusting.
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That's not the type of fade that people are referring to.
When people say that Romo can’t throw the fade, they specifically mean the jump ball type throw to the back of the end zone where his receiver can go up higher and snag it.
The fade he threw last night was the type where the ball is thrown to a position and his receiver gets there first, similar to the one thrown to Crayton in the Philadelphia game last year. Austin caught it at about stomach level.
by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 22, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Awww, count on you to point out what Romo can't do. Fact is, I rarely seen
folks here differentiate when they make blanket statements about Romo not being able to throw a fade, but thanks for the distinction.
I meant that "thank you" sincerely. I think my post comes off a bit sarcastic, and it's
not intended.
Hmmm.
I’m not sure how to take it, actually. I don’t think I’m overly critical of Romo, but I do wish he could add this weapon to his arsenal.
Here’s an example of the type of throw that I mean: http://www.nfl.com/videos/dallas-cowboys/09000d5d8031cf0e/Bills-Defense-Highlight-WK-5-vs-Cowboys-2007. If he puts that ball higher, the defender has no chance. Instead, when TO was at his high point, the ball was at about sternum level, making it easier for the defender to get into him and make the play. With our current receivers, Austin, Bryant, Williams, and Bennett, that type of play would be basically unstoppable in the red zone due to their size and athleticism.
Here’s Brad Johnson to Roy Williams: http://www.nfl.com/videos/dallas-cowboys/09000d5d80bfbb2b/Brad-Johnson-Highlight-WK-08-vs-Buccaneers-2008. Buchanon is pretty good sized for a CB, but at 4 inches shorter than Roy and with Roy knowing the play, he has no chance.
by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 23, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh man.
Already seeing the “sky is falling” headlines out there now. Sigh….
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 22, 2010 12:07 AM CDT reply actions
Well, there was some real suckitude tonight. I wouldn't expect "everything is coming
up roses" headlines either. I hope the guys who played well get some love.
Agreed.
I’m just saying…nothing is won or lost in the preseason. 2008 preseason we looked unstoppable.
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 22, 2010 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Why?
I thought that game showed a lot of promise, and it was even quite entertaining.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 22, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
We injected youth everywhere...
but the OL needs to be addressed. Continuity is a great thing, but if we even had slightly above average backups our starters would be looking over their shoulders.
Pirates Vs. Ninjas? Psh......Cowboys, baby.
Costa looked pretty good for the most part.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.
During game time I can't manage to focus on an oline player
But throughout the web people are talking well about Costa. Hopefully we got something there.
by Cowboysaficionado on Aug 22, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Funny thing is...
Costa looks more like a tackle and Brewster looks more like a guard. Brewster played well last night as well.
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Agree about Davis
Jury still out on Dre but Davis missed an easy stunt and got Romo hit and caused an int. McQ also really cost us the last 2 drives,the man can’t handle a bull rush.Got driven into the backfield on almost every play.When are we going to lose that clown???
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by NVCowboy4Life on Aug 22, 2010 5:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Stop with your Gurode nonsense already
Travis Bright is just as good or better, remember that proclamation?
If I were you I’d be worried. Mike Hamlin is losing his spot to McCray from what I can tell.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
by APerfectStar on Aug 22, 2010 5:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Based on...
Your own subjective assessment? Because I haven’t seen anything, heard anything, or read anything to suggest that you’re even close to right.
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According to you quincyyyy, and only you!!
Fine you don’t like Gurode, but to say that Bright is even in the same league is totally ridiculous.
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by APerfectStar on Aug 23, 2010 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd love to get an answer on where your get your assessment
Still waiting.
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Wouldn't be surprised...I was never big on Mike Hamlin to begin with...
oh yeah….had my first of three Fantasy drafts and RW went undrafted…lol. Besides me there was two other Cowboys fans drafting, but they didn’t want any part of him. I think we all know by mid season, if not sooner Dez will be the man behind Miles….
When did Dez and Cowboys D come off the board?
My guess is quickly with three cowboys fans.
by Cowboysaficionado on Aug 22, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
i think it was round 7 or 8 for Dez..he rated much higher than Rw
Dallas D went 9 or 10….right after jets, Minn and Baltimore
And who overrates Davis exactly?
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Davis
I was on this guy all last year for his poor pass blocking and inability to get a push in run blocking despite his huge weight.
I was furious every time I heard the talking heads reference Davis as our best O-linemen.
I talked everyone’s ear off on this blog that the Cowboys should draft Iupati and drop Davis.
And so far, I’m seeing the same level of play that has made me shake my head on Sundays.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 22, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Iupati might not have helped there anyways.
He plays left guard and reported struggled at the right side.
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whole O-line is over rated
remember when Bledsoe was the starting QB and he was a statue back there and was getting killed, suddenly Romo is the QB and runs for his life but makes plays by using his feet and buying time, suddenly the O-line is a strength of the team but was basically the same line and playing at the same level.
Good point
But Bledsoe should get a lot of blame for his beatings, too. His internal timer, that should have been screaming “Throw it NOW!!!” was out of order.
I’ve never seen a guy more oblivious to the pass rush.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
by APerfectStar on Aug 23, 2010 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions
SUCKS!!!!
Listening to these two"CLOWNS"is comparable to gargling with broken glass and hydrochloric acid!!! I live in an area that is SD country and having to listen to these idiots is worse than bad.I thought that the Raider commentators were bad(Hell Yes) but these two are just as bad.I know they are homos(oops) homers but my goodness. According to these Aholes our season is over so I guess we can take the season off. HEY STUPID, who won the game,don’t care bout nuthin but the final score,so F.O. COWBOYS RULE!!!
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I thought AOA looked good
He did lose a KO (or PR?) but he got back on it. No harm no foul. He also had a 40 yd PR called back for a penalty. But he looked good in the little bit he got to play DB, he knocked the ball out of some tall WR’s hands, very nice play.
For all the problems with the first units, the team still dug out a victory, and I saw a lot of positive things come out of the game. I trust the defense to correct the problems, and this offense is nowhere near full strength. So getting slightly outplayed by a playoff team like SD isn’t the end of the world. It is still pre-season.
I also give credit to the Chargers, in particular Rivers who is a great QB, and their RB tandem of Mathews and Tolbert are going to give a lot of teams fits this season. They should be able to win the AFC West by a couple games.
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Money Quote:
So getting slightly outplayed by a playoff team like SD isn’t the end of the world. It is still pre-season.
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Didn't Ansah have a nice pass breakup?
Did they play him at slot safety/corner on a play where he broke up a pass to the top of the screen? I thought I saw a 27 in that mix in the 3rd quarter, but they moved on quickly and the play was off the top of the screen. If so, that was a bit of the Woody type hybrid play we are hoping for.
Yes, he kept No 11 from completing a jump ball catch, he jump up with the WR and got his arm in the way and caused the incompletion.
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I'm not real worried BUT....
If you didn’t watch the game you’d have thought that this game was probably because of the offensive line mashup and that wasn’t the case at all.
Brewster and Holland held their own pretty good and while there was that one time that the guy got by Davis(who has problems in pass protection most times), it was solid enough that they should have been moving the ball with three step drops.
What does concern me is that it seems like there is a game or two in a year that Romo’s accuracy looks rugged. It wasn’t as if he was making bad decisions, his balls weren’t coming out right at times, his throws just weren’t good.
At least those problems are correctable and the offense and defense will have more than enough to work on this weeks.
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I think Phillips sudden departure for the season is causing more trouble than we might have thought
We knew he’d be missed, but I think his absence has screwed with the running game enough that we are seeing just how much an integral part he had. The 1st unit offense still hasn’t figured out the answer, and being down Kosier, Colombo, and the swing tackle hasn’t made it any easier.
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by APerfectStar on Aug 22, 2010 6:06 AM CDT up reply actions
That shouldn't screw it up that badly though.
The running game wasn’t good but I never thought it had a chance to establish itself really.
It shouldn’t effect the running game that much either, for all the warts Bennett has, he’s a beastly blocker.
I think Romo said it best, they were all out of sync, and there were mistakes across the board.
All of the mistakes are correctable though.
On defense, this was a good game for them in the fact that they were playing against one of the better coordinators in the league. This will give them a nice heavy dose of good game film to work on.
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D came up big at the right times
That was perhaps the biggest positive I took from the game. The D would look bad, letting the Chargers gash, but then they would snag a pass or strip a ball at a key moment. Still many things to work on, but definitely some things they did right.
I am wearing my blue colored glasses today and hoping Tony is right and the offensive woes can be worked out. Mainly because the alternative is too terrible to contemplate.
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Just a theory
But something is not right with the running game, whether it was Phillips loss as a F-Back option, or the individual efforts by the line, they haven’t gotten anything going the last 2 games.
Of course the passing game isn’t burning it up yet either, and they like to pass to set up the run, that could be it. Maybe a combination of things going on.
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by APerfectStar on Aug 23, 2010 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Run blocking has been horrible
all preseason, even with Colombo and Kosier. I don’t believe we’ve had 2 consecutive running plays for 4+ yards. They better get that turned around soon.
Any thoughts on the Dress Rehearsal?
Since they are a regular season opponent, was last night more of the dress rehearsal? You don’t want to tip your hand against a team you will face early in the regular season.
I'm doubting there will be one.
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I think Fist is right
JG may not show much, just focus on keeping people healthy, make the offense work on basics – certainly tons of room to improve there. Likely to see radically different play calling against the ’skins, that will be the full out premiere of the game plan without a real preview in preseason.
But then there are two games left in preseason. Maybe Houston will see more of what the regular season would be. Oddly enough, I have noticed that the coaches don’t take instruction from us very well at all.
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I think Raf said it best
because of the week four game against Houston, the SD game was the Cowboys dress rehearsal. They did not look ready for prime time.
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I'm not so sure they were doing it though.
It is still no excuse for looking so crappy, but the defense was ice cream vanilla. I didn’t think the offense was too strategic either.
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During a press conference a day or two before this game, WP said that they would not treat this game as a dress rehersal
so who knows if it will happen at all or if he will just do so against the texans. I know it would have made a little more sense to do this against an opponent that you will not face in the regular season but he did not see it that way.
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We saw what we needed to see afs far as personel decisions are concerned.
Kwaz flashed some ability, and definitely looks like he can contribute on special teams this year, which is great since I really think we’re gonna have to rely on Dez sooner than we hoped because Romo and RW look like they’re playing different sports. Sean Lee looked much better than I expected. Showed the great instincts and tenacity everyone’s been raving about. Marty B looks like he could be ready to bounce back this year, which is huge without Phillips. Our front seven looks to be incredibly deep. McCann has a low ceiling, but I think he deserves a roster spot based on his special teams contributions, which means Wall is gone. We’re still woefully thin at safety. I really hope Sensabaugh’s ok. Brewster looks like he could be the answer at swing tackle, which is really encouraging considering our line’s age/depth issues. I know we’re running a vanilla offense, but It seems that by the third preseason game our execution should be better than this. We can’t run between the tackles at all. Seeing Matthews gash us in the first half made our running game look even worse by comparison.
Now that I think about it...
If Brewster has another couple of games like this one it might be hard for Columbo to get back on the field. He’s screwed us in the playoffs last year and he gave up two sacks last week. He just doesn’t seem to have the agility to one-on-one pass protect against speed guys anymore. And despite Babe and Brad’s comments to the contrary Sam Young will never make it in the NFL unless Houck can perform a miracle. Since he was likely well coached by Charlie Weis’ staff I don’t see it happening. I watched several scouting tapes of him from Notre Dame and I don’t think he’ll ever be more than just a guy. Speaking of just a guy, if Sam Hurd’s as important and good as Babe and Brad seem to think he is then why is he coming into his 5th year in the league as the 5th wr and a special teams contributor (Terrance Copper version 1.1, maybe Sean Payton wants him). He’s what Parcells used to call a “progress stopper” at this point.
by Stephan Wilson on Aug 22, 2010 7:34 AM CDT up reply actions
The tough thing for Brewster is....
He isn’t the guy that’ll be starting more than likely.
It’ll probably be Barron.
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yeah I think barron is next on the depth chart
"Talent is God-given; be humble. Fame is man-given; be grateful. Conceit is self-given; be careful." John Wooden
I would've agreed with you 3 weeks ago
But from what little we’ve seen of Barron I’ve gotta say Brewster has looked better. Especially when you consider what a good edge rushing team the Chargers are.
by Stephan Wilson on Aug 22, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
not sure if it`s been mentioned
but the Bengals released the C who use to block for McFadden and Felix…Luigs? but he might be dealing with an injury so might not be a near term answer but any comments?
One of my favorites in the 2009 draft
but he had offseason hip surgery. Not a good sign for a 22 year old.
by JimmyJohnson on Aug 22, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
For whom?
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On our way to Wade's 2nd
Preseason NFC East Championship!
How did anyone in college ever tackle Ryan Mathews?
The kid is a beast. The San Diego first stringers manhandled our first stringers, but I’ve seen this before where we got beat bad in the first half and came back and played great in the second half.
Our real issue right now is the O-line. If they’re not looking hard at what to do with Davis then I’ll worry. San Diego was shooting the A & B gaps all night long. Montrae freaking Holland outplayed Bigg. How about that second level block Costa threw to spring Miller for the first down? Costa is playing his way onto the 53.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.
If I was gameplanning for Dallas
That’s all I’d do. I’d just shoot and stunt to Davis’ gaps. There isn’t really a need for any other gameplan. Just every down aim for Davis and mix it up with speed, brawn, and trickery.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 22, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Can Holland play both Guard spots?
What about Brewster? Is he only getting reps at Tackle on practice?
by Cowboysaficionado on Aug 22, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, Brewster played both tackle spots last night, and did well at both.
Holland only plays LG to my knowledge. He, as well, did pretty good. Brewster and Holland both played the majority of the game.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.
Brewster not strong enough for G
My guess is his strength hopefully gets stronger with another yr removed from his injury last yr.
The o-line has possiblities
The Boys are running extra vanilla right now, The Barber pitch for 9 yards is the only play I remember anyone pulling and Doug Free was 10 yards down field blocking. No play action, no lead draws, no nothing to keep the defense honest.
I’d love to see our line blow right over people but it will not. I’n not worried though because we didn’t even see the 12 set much which we do our best running out of.
Would it be crazy to say that...
Free has been the best lineman this preseason?
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not at all
he has not overwhelmed anyone. But he has been soild
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Free has played lights out
he’s overwhelmed everyone so far
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 22, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I've predicted it before and will keep saying it
He’ll end up being out best offensive lineman this season, and the coaches decision to cut Flo and elevate Free to starter will be as wise as Ellis/Spencer and Henry/Jenkins last year.
(same with Ball, too btw)
+100, I have said the same as has Norm.
Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-
Somebody call Jamie Dukes
That guy has been hating on Free from the second we released Flo. He blames the the Minnesota game on Free when it was Columbo who was getting beat like a rented mule. Free did a pretty good job keeping the best pass rushing defensive end in football off of Romo. The one sack Jared Allen did get came on an overload blitz on his side. Man Jamie Dukes gets on my nerves…
by Stephan Wilson on Aug 22, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Im with you, I think that guy is a TOOL.
Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-
Seriously
Dukes harped on that point every time I listened to him discuss the Cowboys, and not only that, but he thought Flo shouldn’t have been released.
Well Free has looked very good at LT, and if anyone watched the PIT games, Flo doesn’t look so great playing RT.
Dukes needs to eat crow, but I’ll be surprised if he does.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
by APerfectStar on Aug 23, 2010 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Wow, just wow...
I was at the game last night and I have to say, NOTHING about that game was good.
First, Qualcomm Stadium is now, officially, the worst stadium anywhere in the NFL. the parking setup is atrocious, the jumbotrons should be called microtrons and even the hot dogs sucked.
Well, the Cowboys’ 1st stringers played like that.
The offense was putrid. 47 yards from a half’s worth of work. I couldn’t tell if Tony Romo was the QB or Jim Everett. HE had his normal, early game passes that sailed high and behind open receivers, but I really believe (and I’ve written about this before) that when Romo makes this “all shoulder and no legs” throw, he can’t find his target.
The O-line looked more like a set of five prion guards overrun by several inmates on many plays. The first half running game was nonexistent. They averaged 2.3 YPC for the game, but I think most of that was in the second half, as Norv said in his post-game.
I don’t know WHAT THE $#% they have been practicing in Texas and now, Oxnard, but this offense is just not good right now…and I cannot pin this all on the front 5.
What concerns me even more is the defense. The fact that they were pushed around (and I mean BLOWN OFF THE BALL) by a the Charger O-line suggests that everyone has taken for granted that our run defense will be as stout as last year’s when there is absolutely no evidence to support that claim. In fact, if Dallas took this defense into game 1, they’d lose and it wouldn’t be pretty, either.
One more thing. I see a lot of the same posters on this thread saying that this meant nothing, but I can go back to pregame posts where those same BTB’ers were assuming we would dominate a team without McNeil, Vincent Jackson, Jamal Williams, etc.
I must say that it FEELS like too many fans have found ways to write off the failures of this preseason and are believing the hype.
It’s not time for panic, but a total lack of concern on BTB for what was largely a no-show by the starters last night is a recipe for a lot of anger and shattered expectations in about 6 weeks.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
that should have read "prison" guards
I need to proofread more, but it’s Sunday morning after a night of drinking to forget.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
And just in case Quincyyyy is reading...
Cam Thomas?
Stud.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Who has a lack of concern?
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But the fact is, there were a lot of things to be happy with.
I’m not too worried about what happens in these preseason games
Having said all of this, if this was a regular season game, I would be happy.
There are more..
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Blings...
you didn’t appropriately characterize my comment (#3). I was largely agreeing with 82288, whose basic premise was that last night was not a good sign. In short, my comment was that in the regular season, I am happy with any win. In the preseason, I am fine with a loss, especially if the 3rd teamers blow it, but the starters and backups look solid.
In short, I don’t believe last night was a complete disaster, but these guys need to get serious and in a hurry.
Then we agree, because the starters on both sides of the ball stunk it up
But I was rockin’ my new Witten jersey. Amazing how many Cowboys fans were there…
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I think it is a residual of the old Thousand Oaks days...
It is amazing that it has been 21 years since they have been there.
Possibly you should stop going to Dallas/SD games.
This is the second time that you have done this and Dallas has performed badly.
The good news is, right afterwards they cranked it up… so perhaps you are the thorn in their ass that gets them going.
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You wanna hear something funny?
Our group left before the Cowboys rallied to win the game.
So you may be on to something here!
Luckily, they don’t play them anymore, unless…nah.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Your banned from the SB if we and them make it.
Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-
That SUCKS!
But I’ll tell you what…for the team, I’d stay home and watch it on TV.
I have plans to be there as it stands now, but this is one bullet I’d have to take.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Your sacrifice is appreciated.
Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-
Hey Chicken Little, I mean Blings
Guess what, there WERE a lot things to be happy with in this game. It happens to be a pre-season game. It doesn’t count. It’s used to evaluate your roster so you can upgrade in the appropriate areas. Maybe install new schemes, and most importantly, not get your star players injured before the real games begin.
So you go ahead and display the correct amount of concern and panic based on the outcome of one pre-season game, because you know every GD thing about everything, right? In fact, I bet you already know what week Dallas will be eliminated from playoff contention. I guess you think us naive morons that point out anything positive are to be pitied because you see the future where our little dreams are crushed. I’ll be sure to send you a Thank You card after the season. It will be attached to a box of something special I’ll make just for you. I call it Corn Fudge surprise. I think you’ll really enjoy it.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
by APerfectStar on Aug 23, 2010 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I know they sucked
So, you’re now “A Polyanna Star”?
You can write about how your 3rd stringers showed you something. Go pound your chest about that to someone else. Those players won’t ever see the field, and if they do, it will probably be a playoff-free season and Wade’s last.
No matter, I’m sure you’ll still find some wonderful and complimentary things to say about Dallas’ Practice Squad.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
You can criticize all you want
But don’t come on here and talk in a condescending manner because not everyone share you 100% negative view on things. So Lee is going to be a 3rd stringer now? Interesting. I’ll be sure and pull up your quote’s and use them out of context whenever I feel the need to score point for a losing argument. Hey I learned it from watching you, alright, I learned it by watching you….
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
by APerfectStar on Aug 24, 2010 2:31 AM CDT up reply actions
And where is it exactly that I'm posting 100% positive reviews on the game?
There’s a 5Blings-load of criticism I have posted on here. What, you don’t like the facts that ruin your narrative? Which is anyone that disagrees with Blings must be considered a homer of the highest order and thus any opinions made by them are not to be considered serious commentary on the Cowboys. Yeah, we’ve caught on to your MO. It’s hard not to.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
by APerfectStar on Aug 24, 2010 2:50 AM CDT up reply actions
BTW
Here’s a quote from prior to the game.
Dallas’ defense should dominate (no McNeil and no V Jax)
Yeah…
You should direct your anger in a more appropriate direction. After all, it was me making that prediction, now was it?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Oh no I made a meaningless prediction before the game
Hey look everyone, Blings took the time to rummage through my pre-game quotes and find one that didn’t turn out to be on the money! Oh, the humanity.
Wow, you sure showed me.
No my anger is directed at the person who likes to think he knows what people are supposed to be posting based on his own observations. And when they don’t project the total panic he feels based on a PRESEASON game, he let’s us know how naive and short-sighted we are. Anything good was limited to 3rd stringers only right Blings?
Blings, I really like you believe it or not, and enjoy your comments, humor, and fanposts (mostly), but sometimes your arrogance coupled with an overly pessimistic take on everything the Cowboys do is hard to take.
Feel free to use that quote out of context the next time you cherry pick comments to support an argument, or try to make another poster look bad.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
by APerfectStar on Aug 24, 2010 2:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I also think that the comments on the defense might be a little overblown.
They came off of two weeks of dominating against the run and then had problems with Ryan Matthews(who looks to be a stud).
Does one bad half erase a two good games totally?
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It wasn't just Matthews...
and to pin it all on him is naive.
The LINEMEN were getting pushed 3 and 4 yards off of the ball. There were missed tackles everywhere. The defense played a BAD game against a good team that is nowhere near full strength.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Ok...
I didn’t say it was all him, and please don’t call me naive
I know it was a bad game, I wouldn’t say otherwise. Just because everyone doesn’t start crying doesn’t mean that they aren’t concerned.
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Well, you asked and I put up quotes
That what I was referring to.
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Really?
Because I thought you just called me naive because I thought part of it was because Ryan Matthews was breaking tons of tackles.
You want to have a discussion, have one in a tone that is respectful, I feel like I’ve earned that.
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But back to the game.
You would definitly expect more from a veteran football team than that.
Does the game mean everything or that Dallas is done? Nope.
If Dallas had absolutely looked indestructible would that have made me think they were superbowl bound either? Nope.
We’ll see what they learn and can apply once we hit the regular season.
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I think you have to like how GB's starters are playing
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Yeah I would be if I were a GB fan...
I’m just saying that I don’t want to go overboard one way or another.
I remember a few preseasons ago when Dallas’s defense looked like the best defense in the league.. and they ended up being nothing more than average.
There is no excuse for looking that bad, but at least there is a little time to get the kinks worked out.
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Some teams believe their hype and others live up to it...
I think GB may be ready to live up to theirs.
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Let's be clear...
I didn’t think you were REALLY making it all about Matthews, but if you were, then I would have had cause to call you naive.
And yes, of course you’ve earned that respect, but you know me, I will call balls and strikes.
Now, back to the game?
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5Blings
the only thing I would add that the D did not have good play reconnection, was not able to get off blocks well, and didnt tackle all that well either
I have a feeling we are going to see a steady diet of screens till they show they can stop it
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Explain "play reconnection"
Not sure what you mean…
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I did thank you :)
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Totally agree
There were a lot of confused defenders out there on Dallas’ side.
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I now have a new phrase, it called WP face, the face where he consistently looks like someone just
stole his wallet and he has no idea what is going on, it looks almost as bad as “manning face” except I like seeing that face. The game had WP face on full display on offense and defense, it just added to my irritation.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Hahaha WP face
Awesome description.
by Cowboysaficionado on Aug 22, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Somebody needs to post a pic of that!
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Yesssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
It looked like dallas was rushing the passer on everydown anticipating them to pass, but the chargers allowed them
to get up field and beath them with screens, especially in the early part of the game.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
There were some pretty big holes that the Charger RB's missed
I wan’t pleased with Ratliff or Igor last night.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I think you
can look at the game in two ways. If you look at it as a true preseason game which is to evaluate talent, than I think some questions might have been answered. Tony Romo did not die with Holland and Brewster in the game, Sean Lee showed real potential, Newman got a pick ( a major occurrence) Marty B making some plays, AOA showing some return skills, I mean there were some plays made. Not to mention we won the game.
On the other hand, if this was supposed to be a dress rehearsal, then it left a lot to be desired. I believe Wade said it wouldn’t be a dress rehearsal so I’ll chalk it up to talent evaluation and wait for next week. It’s a little early for the ledge.
5Blings, your version of "rational pessimism" is as extreme as the optimists you try to ridicule
I also don’t think anyone is under the illusion that we can already punch a SB ticket. Yet this is about the level of respect you give to any positive comment. Point is, extreme perspectives on BOTH sides of the spectrum are premature….
It’s a little early for the ledge.
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
As you re-read my comment, where exactly doyou get the sense that I am on the "ledge"?
Or was this just a statement that was not necessarily relevant to my comment but more a gut feel thing?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Blings, what part of anything you've posted here is NOT ledge-inessish?
:)
Original Pet-Cats: Duane Thomas, Roger Staubach, Walt Garrison, Charlie Waters, Bob Lilly
Count me in as concerned.
I was upset watching the 1st half of this game, the biggest problem I saw besides the non-existent offense was the defense still cannot generate any pressure up the middle on passing plays. Rivers could step up into the pocket everytime he needed to make a throw (especially on 3rd downs) and get a completion. I was also disappointed in how the defense was getting pushed around, the game looked a lot like the performance this team had against the bucs in wk 1 last year, but it looked worse because the chargers are much better thant he bucs. Bad run defense, offense sputtering, in ability to make consistent tackles.
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SD ran what 4-5 screens in the first half
and they gashed the Cowboys on everyone
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Sounds like a bunch of women
sitting around complaining about everything wrong with their men they can think of, and even making some things up.
we’ve seen three preseason games, so what?
pre-season games do not a season make. one or two regular season games do not a season make.
lets not forget the cowboys were 2-2 at one point last year, and barely that. they got it together.
no one, especially within the cowboys organization, has promised that this team would dominate this year, yet that seems to be what everyone expects.
the chargers are one of the top teams in the nfl. playing teams like that will be a slugfest. so dallas will be in alot of slugfests this year. get ready for it and stop the whining.
the dallas offense didnt suddenly start sucking overnight. relax. and man the f*&k up. when the starters walked off the field, it was a tie game, on the road, against one of the best teams in the nfl.
I think it's ok to be a bit concerned though.
By week 3(week 2 for everyone else) you’d hope that Romo would be a little sharper and that the team would have a sync to them.
I don’t think it’s something that isn’t correctable though.
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i agree but their are excuses...
you have to account for all the injury’s on offense. Colombo, Kosier, Dez, Bennett & Phillips lost for the season, they had McQuistan at TE last week lol. even though Holland did ok, from all the stuff i read their was no lanes to run the ball. Brewster didn’t get RoMo killed but he also had help which took a weapon away from the Dallas offense & give the SD defense an extra player.
i don’t like to make excuses & i also don’t like preseason games bc to much can be made of a vanilla game plan. their was a time when teams didn’t even blitz during preseason but not anymore. a vanilla offense agianst a blitzing defense doesn’t match up well…
Move Over Sweetness, Make A Place For Emmitt!
by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Aug 22, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been down that path before...
most recently with C729. Injuries are something you have to play through and, yes, luck does play a role.
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
You know what? Sitting around and analyzing the game as it was played is legit. I don't
see the problem with not blowing sunshine up each others’ como se llamas when the team doesn’t look good. I’m pretty sure the purpose of this blog is to do more than sit around like mindless homers and cheerlead.
Somebody was asleep in Spanish class...
“Como se llama” means “what’s your name.” I believe the word you’re looking for is “culo.” Also just because we didn’t execute well doesn’t mean we should ignore the progress our young guys are making. Don’t forget there are two preseason games left.
by Stephan Wilson on Aug 22, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for the Spanish lesson, but, no, I wasn't asleep. "Como se llama" can mean
“what do you call that?” I was making a joke about NOT using the more explicit word.
I have also pointed out repeatedly that the guys who did play well should be recognized. Doesn’t mean discussion of what didn’t go right should be squelched.
haaaa!
I don’t speak spanish but I got what you were doing. Filipinos have a word “ohno” that is loosely translated as “what cha ma call it” and they use it all the time for everything. So I read that as
“not blowing sunshine up each others’ ohno”and had a good laugh.
- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Aug 22, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Does this mean the team failed to execute the game plan in Spanish too?
Como se dice “we sucked”?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Uhhhh no
…and that’s the kind of Jamaican fan adoration I don’t buy.
Don’t worry, be happy?
No. The team sucked on both sides. Meanwhile, teams like GB and NE are showing you they are ready to go on a deep run.
Dallas is drinking its own bath water. This team is going to get beaten early unless they turn things around.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I'm a Jamaican and was wondering what are you talking about
and then I remembered that song by Bobby McFerrin, who happens to be American
Should have said "Everything is Irie man"
Pardon my miscue.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Even with last night's so so performance
I’d take Cowboy’s D over Green Bay’s every time.
by Cowboysaficionado on Aug 22, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's see if that holds true in midseason...
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Cowboys defense is better across the board
The only position where they are clearly better is FS with Nick Collins. Charles Woodson is a very versatile player, but IMO he’s a bit overrated as a cover man. Clay Matthews is still pretty much one dimmensional and is light years from Ware and even Spencer.
by Cowboysaficionado on Aug 22, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
AJ Hawk? Their DE's?
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Not such a big bump from what we got
by Cowboysaficionado on Aug 22, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
But better?
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I can't tell
But I’d say about even. Either way we will not agree on this one. I do think their offense is currently way better than ours though. Rodgers to me is the best QB in the NFC easily.
by Cowboysaficionado on Aug 22, 2010 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Scary how good he's gotten so fast...
Gotta credit his head coach with a lot of that offense’s development.
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Now that's FUNNY!
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Wooooooo
Are you SERIOUSLY going to bring up good AJ Hawk when trying to make your case for good defensive players?
He’s not real good… at all. He’s nothing more than an average player.
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I like Hawk a lot
I think he brings the same kind of heat that Brooking brings.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I don't even think its close.
Hawk has been close to being beat out for 2 years in a row. Bradie James is a superior player to AJ Hawk, and James is really just average.
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I'd take him in a heartbeat
Passion, big hits, yeah baby.
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Big Hits?
Man you must be watching highlight reels only.
He is being taken out of the nickel package because he’s aweful in coverage and most Packer fans consider him a huge bust.
He’ll probably be on another team in 2011.
As NCAA 2011 would say, “It’s not just enough to play on emotion.”
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Yes, highlight reels only
You don’t think he can fill on running plays?
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I don't think he's god aweful.
He has alot of tackles but he doesn’t do anything spectacular.
My reply really was just… out of all the packers you mentioned to tout their defense, you mentioned one of their worst starters.
Green Bay is probably not going to even retain him after his contract runs out.
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Its really tough to make any definitive projection of this team from the preseason.
The defense was excellent the two games before this – one bad PRESEASON game, and they are now going to struggle? I don’t buy that. There were tons of people here crying about the defense week 1 in tampa bay last season – we ended as the 2nd best points against defense in the league…this defense probably had about 5 drives of poor run defense last year and Leftwich fared better than Rivers, Brees and Rodgers against us.
The offense is a legitimate concern right now, absolutely. There are injuries, Romo didn’t play well (and he actually has a history of playing well in the 3rd preseason game). The run game did nothing…but at the same time, it sounds like the playcalling has been relatively vanilla, and as we learned last year, this team no longer has any success in the vanilla offense, especially when it comes to running the ball. The offense is definitely the weakest link of this team, as we saw in our losses last year. I can’t see them being too much worse though – I think we may’ve just witnessed a bad half from Romo. It happens sometimes.
You could also look at this a little more positively – we struggled and yet were still in great position at halftime. That rarely happens with this team,its recently been the exact opposite in fact. We can dominate a half and only come up with 6 points due to red zone woes. This game we created a turnover and successfully (for seemingly the first time in forever) capitalized.
what are you talking about?
panic.
panic.
Me? I’ve been watching the nfl long enough to know not to read too much into pre-season games.
but hey, the raiders are looking real good this pre-season. maybe I should switch over to them.
nah..
i think i’ll stay.
maybe some of these other folks should switch over too.
im off to church
you guys should find something else to do today. dont even watch favre tonight.
Lee, Bennett, Gordon & Church
all seemed to have a great game. it always seems like C.Gordon is getting an INT & he should be a great addition to this defense. it almost sounds like Gordon is playing better then Scandrick bc i haven’t seen or read anything positive on how Scandrick is doing.
i can’t wait to watch the game today on NFL Network to see how it looked bc for a win it sure sounds like SD dominated both sides of the ball.
Move Over Sweetness, Make A Place For Emmitt!
Gordon's INT was a thing of beauty
I watched part of the game again today and that was a tremendous play, he had excellent coverage and then just snagged the thing one-handed so smoothly… the guy has got real ball skills and gives me a lot of confidence of our depth at CB/DB. Great to see the reports from his INTs at camp show up in a game.
You play like you practice.
Like Raf said, they’ve been working on those.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
How about Spencer
on that sack? He navigated his way by 3 blockers without hardly slowing down. We are going to have a beastly pass rush this year that I predict will lead to far more turnovers. Especially if we can get Rat a breather or two. I’m not worried about the D at all. The offense is definitely a concern, but I’m not going to panic yet. We have enough assets to make something happen.
by Satch30 on Aug 22, 2010 12:26 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I'm predicting big things for Spencer against the Redskins
I think they’re going to roll protection to the left to help out their rookie (who didn’t look great last night) against Ware which will give Spencer ample opportunities to take shots at McNabb.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 22, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Spencer could have a probowl season
from everything i read or seen points to Spencer having a great season. teams can’t double Ware anymore without wondering what Spencer is doing, plus Spencer is great in coverage & against the run. Ware & Spencer could make something special happen this season…
Move Over Sweetness, Make A Place For Emmitt!
Great points
But to say Spencer is great in coverage is a pretty decent stretch. We’d be best served keeping him running downhill, in short zones, or in man on fullbacks.
by Stephan Wilson on Aug 22, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a stretch to consider him a liability in coverage as well
He does a good job for a rush OLB. He’s turning into a great all around guy actually since he already plays the run great.
by Cowboysaficionado on Aug 22, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
LMFAO Look at this joke
Did Calvin Watkins sleep during the game and dreamt about this shit?
Sean Lee. The second-round pick looked a little lost out there. He was behind on some passes in the flat and was late in covering the tight ends. He did play a lot and as the game wore on and got better. We thought he was thinking a little too much and not reacting.
by Cowboysaficionado on Aug 22, 2010 1:05 PM CDT reply actions
I didn't really notice him being late on coverages
But putting him on stock down after all the other things he did in the game is nitpicking.
by Cowboysaficionado on Aug 22, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don't get this one. Of all the things to complain about, I don't see Lee as one
of them. Rookie did all right.
tis the same guy who said
cowboys would go 7-9 last year, hes a retard
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 22, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
It pretty much matches what Wade said
when asked about Lee at 1:36.
by JimmyJohnson on Aug 22, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
There was one play
Where Lee seemed to react late on the running back going out in a route for a checkdown which led to like an 8 yard gain.
That’s the only play I can remember where Lee had a real noticible lapse in coverage.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 22, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
It's his first EVER NFL action...
You aren’t expecting him to execute everything perfectly, just show potential. Which he definitely did. That guy needs to calm down
by Stephan Wilson on Aug 22, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
calvin watkins
once stated publicly, during a press conference late in the 2008 season, that he would have the cowboys already locked up for the playoffs if he was the head coach. he said this to Wade Phillips during the presser.
that tells me everything i need to know about the guy.
go back and watch lee on the two plays when SD is driving to get into FG range around the two minute warning. the first is 3rd and 3 and lee flys in from the side to stop the guy short. on 4th and 1 lee flys in again, hits the full back, sheds him, and makes the tackle. dallas ball.
not a bad showing for his first cowboy game says i.
who is calvin watkins?
nobody.
LOL!
Somebody needs to hit that guy in the scrotum. I really wish he’d said that to Parcells. He’d be missing some teeth.
by Stephan Wilson on Aug 22, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
no way he has the balls
to say that to parcells.
The statement he made was indicative of the general lack of respect that WP gets. I guess b/c he doesn’t interview well and b/c apparently he gets these wierd looks on his face (as some bloggers have pointed out).
Wade’s body type and general facial expressions aside, he has forgotten more about football than any dallas sportswriter will ever know. he certainly knows far more about football than any blogger on this thread.
this is fairly obvious, so its hard for me to understand sometimes why he gets virtually no respect. the simple fact of the matter is that he has gotten his team to the 2nd level of the playoffs twice since he has been the HC and he has won the division twice. thats more than anyone else has done in a long time.
sure, he annoys me sometimes, but his gametime calls (challenges, going for it or not, etc) seem to me to be uniformly correct and not made from a coward’s heart. he also seems to know talent.
give him a chance.
+1
Especially on the football knowledge. I don’t pretend to know all that much. I just enjoy throwing out my opinions, and trying to make them somewhat based on fact, not just emotion. But I think our coaching staff is good to excellent.
The new mantra: No more injuries. No more injuries. Everybody now: NO MORE INJURIES!
But I don't always succeed
on the being fact based. One of the reasons I love BTB is when someone throws something out I missed or misinterpreted. I learn a lot that way.
The new mantra: No more injuries. No more injuries. Everybody now: NO MORE INJURIES!
not that anybody needs to improve on Stephan's comment, but...
there is a very good reason why Calvin Watkins is writing instead of coaching. Of course, that reason is because he is not accountable. He may break stories (unlikely), but he isn’t a coach. He couldn’t make a decision if his life counted on it. Any comment he makes, he reserves the right to change it moments later. If he were a coach, he would be filleted and fired within moments.
ahh yes.
an “expert” is someone who doesnt have to live with the consequences of their decisions.
I look at this team like this
if we want to win the SuperBowl are we good enough as a team?
QB? CHECK
RB? CHECK
WR? CHECK
TE? CHECK
SPECIAL TEAMS? CHECK
K? Jury is still out
DEF CHECK across the board
the weak spot is obviously the O-line and the first 4 are all reliant on the O-line play to be successful.
I do wonder what your CHECKs are based on.
Obvoiusly it is based on what you think they will do in the future. But were they just trying to look bad last night? I don’t think so, and that means there is some cause for concern (after sleeping on things).
If I were grading the starters last night, it would be:
QB? Not good.
RB? A little better, but not much. However, that may have been more lack of holes/play calling
WR? Way too many times the receiver was not where the QB expected
TE? Check, at least on the #2 TE. Wait, isn’t that the loser Marty B?
Speical teams? OK
K? Not enough data
DEF? 205 yards given up to 1st team O. Started tightening up, but basically bailed itself out by making big plays at key moments.
I am not ready to proclaim the sky is falling. They can, I think, get this stuff straightened out, but they have to get it together. I mean, what if the first game comes, Garret breaks out his full repetoire of plays, and they execute with the ineptitude of last night? AND LOSE TO THE REDSKINS/MCNABB? Oh, the horror!
The new mantra: No more injuries. No more injuries. Everybody now: NO MORE INJURIES!
Well obviously last night was dismal.
That being said…I still think they are talented and should(God I hope) execute like a professional football team soon.
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I think you are being too harsh...
Let’s not use just last night’s preaseason game as evidence. Let’s look at the full body of evidence. Secondly, watch the game a second time. I was fired up after watching the game (after more than 1 bottle of wine) on adthe.com, too. But after having watched the game a 2nd time on NFL network, there were many things the Cowboys did well. Not enough for a regular season game, but don’t forget, this is a good team (the Chargers). These are things they Boys can correct, especially their deficiency against the screen pass.
Excess players, LBs and DBs
They seem to have up to 4 players in those areas who might gain compensation. If they keep Church, McCann, McCray, Gordon then Watkins, Wall, Hamlin face the ax or trade. Ball and the other three starters with Scandrick stay. AOA makes 10 for the unit.
Maybe Wall gets to the PS. Teddy Williams as well for PS.
At LB, Octavian, L.Williams should play somewhere if not here but I don’t see much trade value.
B Sharpe is probably a PS target.
If they could put 3-4 of these together for one-two inside Olineman around age 25 that would make sense.
Why would someone do that?
When they know they can just pick them up off the waiver wire when you have to let go of them?
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He says there’s not much trade value. Maybe that’s what he means.
by Cowboysaficionado on Aug 22, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
They could end up in many places.....
if you don’t trade for them. Also you have to assume the trading party is long olinemen. Meaning more than 9 on a roster. This is a pretty short list of trading potential on that basis.
The lesser teams would be foolish to trade but if you are better than the middle and have an excess player and need LBs or DBs it would make sense. These aren’t high value types of trades.
Crayton, Spears, Sensabaugh, L. Davis would be more involved and I would consider those players short-term and tradable. Kosier was on the list but he’s hurt and not due back for a time. Spears is devalued at the moment as well, the run defense wasn’t too good the other night either. I didn’t see much of the game so I’m not sure how the line was overall. Hurd and Curtis Johnson are minor and could be on the trade inventory list as well.
The Cowboys should stock 3 olinemen on the PS as well. It’s hard too know if Barker and Tepper are worth keeping.
Everyone complains about the oline while they can’t imagine starters being cut or traded. I don’t understand this, it’s driving with the rearview mirror. Some of the guys are a shell of what they were a few years ago. The problem is the payroll numbers make any current starters weak candidates for backups so whoever wants a current starter must be committed to keeping them a starter for the most part. I don’t see anyone wanting L.Davis based on his compensation but there might be a team. Then you need a replacement, most likely from the outside as well.
I’d like to a see a sortable list of olinemen and their current contract situations. I’m sure there are other limited contracts around the league who the Cowboys could match with. The CBA situation doesn’t help with this since we don’t know how restricted the 4-6 year players really are.
Sometimes
You see two teams trade guys they were going to cut to make 53. That way they don’t expose a player to the wire and they get the guy they want for the cost of a guy they were going to cut anyway.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 22, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmmmm
I’m sure it’s happened before… but I don’t remember that happening.
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Last year
There was one switch of spares along with a couple trades for late round picks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 22, 2010 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Who?
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Henry for Kitna Last Year
I don’t remember any late round trades since we traded Sean Ryan and Pete Hunter. Both of those trades were in 2005.
You're really stretching my memory now
One was a defensive lineman, I want to say end for the Baltimore ravens. The other was I think a tight end for the… Colts?
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 22, 2010 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Looked it up - I was off
OT Tony Moll went to Green Bay for CB Derrick Martin who passed him on the way to Baltimore
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 22, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Those are both veteran players though right?
Not guys who had never taken a regular season snap.
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Exactly....
the trouble now it’s often about cap impact and the amount of restriction time balancing out in some way.
I think there is a PR issue trading FAs as well, they’re trying to recruit all the time. If they trade Leon Williams for example to a team he might have signed with if cut it would reflect negatively for future FA’s considering the trading team. I think the players have to be on board if they only attended camp as a FA. By its nature team compensation lowers players value/compensation. On the other hand getting cut might mean a waiver claim from St. Louis for example, maybe the player doesn’t want that. So it’s complicated by specifics. You can also argue that trade compensation, like a draft pick, is a team investment making the commitment greater to a player. Less likely to face the cut option that waiver pickups face.
Just watched some highlights on Utube
Loved the int’s and to’s. If this defense creates that this year, all will be good.
by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 22, 2010 4:53 PM CDT reply actions
The Ravens....
have some bench guys worth looking at;
He might be in the long-term plan and they may not need what the Cowboys have. on the other hand he was only tendered for a 3rd round and might be a free agent next year. This is the kind of situation the Cowboys should be all over.
Is he better than what you have though?
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The Ravens have a better line at this point than the Cowboys...
I just put it out there as a concept. He was drafted in the second round, he tried TE for a time. He’s more athletic than many. I think he ran 4.8 but at a smaller size than the present. He’s had to build size to this point. Only 7 starts, but that’s better than many on the current squad like Brewster, Costa, Bright. He can play center as well.
The team has to consider if he can be held or would want to extend and what that would cost might be, perhaps next year.
I’d bet he’s better than many on the current squad, you would think the team would be scouting every similar contract and profile in the league. What I can’t say either is there is anything the Cowboys have that would make the trade. They are a good team and might value him as a backup if only for this year. Unless they knew he would sign I would rule out any serious picks. They could have signed him for a 3rd rounder if was on their radar earlier.
The cowboys are short going into prime players in the oline. They might have a great practice squad, interesting rookies and even good older players but is this the best mix for the team?? I’m not so sure. Do you think Holland is in shape for a 16 game season? Five guys over 30?? Kinda overweight as a group do you think that adds or subtracts tread life as a rule?? How many knee operations on record? All but Free I believe of the starters, some multiples.
This isn’t that unique to the Cowboys either, 175 players over 300 lb’s I think I read that recently. Many in the oline (most), many over 30 as well in the league at these positions.
Not to be mr. devils advocate but...
If this guy is so good and offensive line depth is at such a premium in the NFL, why would Baltimore trade him?
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for something they might need that the cowboys have in excess.....
like LB’s, WR’s or young DB’s
Spears would be on the block as well.
I have no idea what the Ravens really need but I put it out there as example. I suspect the other teams have 4-5 contracts on average they would love to get rid of. About 150 contracts that might be hard to cut on the one hand and they are looking for compensation.
This player might spend the whole year on the bench and be gone for example. If Crayton fills a gap for two years why wouldn’t you trade?
There aren't that many teams with an excess of good quality offensive linemen.
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About 3 olinemen...
per team will hit waivers. The best ones will be gone by the time Dallas’s option comes up.
It would be better to trade for some of these. Also, why should the ravens give up compensation? likely some of these guys are free agents next year.
What is Crayton set to catch this year? 25? On a team with a need he could catch 60 or more.
this is how trades happen.
Why do you think or are so sure these guys are instant upgrades?
I’m still not getting where you figure this.
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Nothing is certain.....
but the current line is weak. You have to make plays in the front office as well.
The Cowboys often improve on moves, perhaps the RWilliams situation was bad but there have been good moves as well. Apathy and the status quo have held the organization back of late.
The oline is old, past peak. All kinds of excess players who wanted out or should be shown out. Why are many of them still here?
I agree with what you are saying....
But how is trading someone elses trash going to improve the line?
You are getting Cory Proctors generally…. Montrae Hollands…
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The law of averages....
tells you when you look at the entire sample of linemen the odds you have all the best in every depth slot is close to impossible.
Hundreds of backups and cuts coming, you’re saying there are no better talents than the current roster?
That isn’t logical.
I'm sure there are.
But I’m doubting that there are just gems out there that you would rather have than Holland, Brewster, or Barron.
How is that not logical? No one dumps linemen if they think they have potential to be good solid backups. There might be a veteran that someone would trade, but you aren’t going to get a young guy.
And isn’t that what you want?
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We aren't even really disagreeing here.
I just think that you aren’t going to find that many upgrades that are about to be dropped is all.
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It's management complacency...
that is the driver, the priority was in other areas and the oline declines.
There are always contracts out there, they involve change. Barron was a fine try, let’s see how it goes. Brewster is a question of training risks from what I have seen. Maybe Holland will improve that he is playing but is another over eating risk.
The team needs more Doug Free’s. They should go and trade before the cuts and add what they can after. If Davis could get big comp they should make a major move if they can fill the spot with a younger prospect.
Sometmes you have to go backwards to end up ahead.
You think you find Doug Free's on the waiver wire?
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I think fans can see why I said Lee
will probably end up being our best draft pick from this class. That stop on 4th and 1 was something you’d see from Ray Lewis in his prime. He will be a future pro bowler for years to come. If Bryant plays that well too, this draft class could become really special.
In Romo we Trust
Plllllllllllllllease!
I think Lee had a good game and you could definitly see why he was drafted there, but its one preseason game!
You said a LITTLE more than he was just the best draft pick of the class.
And while we’re at it, if Bryant comes out and just dominates, are you going to makes posts eating crow as you do when you pat yourself on the back? My guess… nope.
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I never questioned Bryant's talent
I questioned his judgment and maturity….big difference. I fully expect him to play great when he comes back…talent has never been the issue with that kid.
In Romo we Trust
You're a joke dude.
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I don't idolize anything...
Dude I served my country, so that little girls like you can express your dumb opinions.
I got a wife and a kid, I don’t idolize anything.
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Are you wanting to push my buttons?
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At this point, the better part of valor would be to stand down...
and I direct this at both of you.
Gotta remember what connects us.
GO COWBOYS!
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