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Sam Hurd's name has been popping up on trade block chatter. According to Clarence Hill, an NFL source said Hurd is indeed being shopped.

The Cowboys have denied they are actively pursuing a trade for Hurd, admitting only that "teams have called about him" but they "are not ready to do anything yet." Yet is the operative word.

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I like Hurd

but this makes sense to me. Knocking on wood to forestall any more injuries, it’s the deepest position the team has.

FREE THE OGLETREE!!!

by dunkman on Aug 24, 2010 8:57 AM CDT reply actions  

There's no need for him

Hurd will never break out and become a starter. And we’re already 4 deep with starters. Add a prospect in Ogletree and there’s no reason for us to have Hurd as a 6th reciever. If we ever need to put our 6th WR on the field we’re done for the season anyway.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 24, 2010 10:40 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

and Holley could make the team

and play special teams and be cheaper than Hurd. WE`re pretty deep at LB and CB as well. We really dropped the ball developing our OL.

by ziggy19 on Aug 24, 2010 9:01 AM CDT reply actions  

bleh

If I hear Holley’s name again I’m gonna puke. It’s a good story but he’s not even close to the receiver Hurd is. If Hurd is gone I’d use that open roster spot and carry one of the db’s that’s likely to get cut like McCann or Church. Hell, I’d take Hudgins over Holley.

by Dezstroyer88 on Aug 24, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would understand this.

And honestly for Hurd, I kind of hope he does get traded. I think that he could have an opportunity to be a 3 WR in some places.

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by Iron Fist on Aug 24, 2010 9:01 AM CDT reply actions  

I would love to hear you name five teams that he could start for.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 24, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chiefs – There is no way Sam Hurd would beat out Dwayne Bowe or Chris Chambers. That is ridiculous.

Skins – There is no way Sam Hurd would beat out either Santana Moss or the group of Joey Galloway, Mike Furrey, Bobby Wade, and Devin Thomas.

Bucs – This is much more of a gray area because most of the Bucs receivers are young but I still don’t see Hurd finishing in the top two of a group of Arrelious Benn, Michael Clayton, Sammie Sloughter, and Mike Williams.

Bills – This might be the easiest team for Hurd to crack in with since their only real legit WR is Lee Evans. Still though, Hurd wouldn’t be a lock competing with the former second round pick James Hardy as well as Marcus Easley and Roscoe Parrish.

Browns – See Below

Simply put, Hurd is far from a lock to start for even one other team in the NFL (with the Bills being the only one I could see him starting on in a realistic scenario).

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 24, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he could be a #3

WR for a few teams, but I would doubt he would ever be a 2 guy.

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by Iron Fist on Aug 24, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe for the Rams

Donnie Avery and Laurent Robinson are the only recievers I know. Oh and he already beat out Amendola here.

by starmesh23 on Aug 24, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would agree with that I think.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 24, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

I think the Chiefs would be all over him. Haley knows him well and probably loves the guys work ethic.

Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.

by APerfectStar on Aug 25, 2010 5:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

If there's a team looking to trade for Hurd...

…it’s probably to at least compete for that 2nd spot. Hurd makes less and less sense each year for the Cowboys, but especially as a #6 … this area, at least to me, is reserved for young prospects overflowing with the ever-elusive “potential”

Given the number of special teams contenders in the running, Hurds time here is in jeopardy IMHO.

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by DalaiLuke on Aug 25, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Too bad the Vikings...

just traded for Miami’s Greg Camarillo. They gave up Benny Sapp to get him:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Vikings-trade-Sapp-to-Dolphins-96791885

Wonder if we could’ve grabbed Kleinsasser or a Guard for Hurd? Even at 33 years old, Kleinsasser would be a good stop-gap until Phillips comes back.

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by lonewolfz28 on Aug 25, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know about that.

They really like Massaquoi and the Browns have also have spent two draft picks in the last two years on Brian Robiskie and Carlton Mitchell. They also have Bobby Engram on their roster.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 24, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Stuckey is manning the slot.

I was just watching them the other day, and they seem to have a very physical offense. Hurd could fit that mold, plus their ST units would be lights out!

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 24, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully

They trade him to the AFC somewhere so that I can still root for him.
Always liked Hurd…

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by goat3000 on Aug 24, 2010 9:04 AM CDT reply actions  

except the steelers

and actually i didn’t like flozell ended there

by ratware on Aug 24, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bengals would be nice.

Then we can cheer for all of our ex-Cowboys in one spot.

by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 24, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

And those who aren't former Cowboys...

are former Longhorns.

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by Pnut Gallery on Aug 24, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't forget Miami :)

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by DalaiLuke on Aug 25, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

If they could get a good solid backup center or guard

I would be okay with trading Hurd, although you always love having guys like Hurd on your team who work really hard to get the most out of their abilities. His character is off the charts.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 24, 2010 9:25 AM CDT reply actions  

I said in the other thread he wouldn't make the cut...

Hurd is probably going to be cut so trying to get something for him makes sense…No way we are keeping WRs….

by Boyzfan94 on Aug 24, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think one of the reasons they are wanting to move Hurd...

is to try and retain Holley.

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by Iron Fist on Aug 24, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

No.

That’s whats been reported, that Holly has been battling Hurd. Why would I joke about that?

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by Iron Fist on Aug 24, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yuck

That would be terrible. If they trade Hurd, it’s probably because they only want to carry 5 WR’s and they think they’ll get something decent in return. Holley should go back to the PS.

Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.

by APerfectStar on Aug 25, 2010 5:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm only somewhat joking.

There have been reports that Holley was neck and neck with Hurd.

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by Iron Fist on Aug 25, 2010 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hurd won't get cut

If he doesn’t get traded he’ll make the team easily.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 24, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I'm thinking.

They won’t let him go for nothing. Just because he’s buried on the depth chart doesn’t mean he can’t come in and contribute. He’s not only a ST guy, but they put him in during running/ single WR formations. He has a good rapport with Romo and probably knows Garrett’s system by heart..

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 24, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

......

I’m confused of how that matters.

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by Iron Fist on Aug 24, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was trying to post from my phone (still working the bugs out) but anyways

I’m with Aaron. Hurd has value now and in the future both on the team or if we trade him. He can’t start for this team but does a good job coming of the bench and playing special teams. If his traded there are plenty of guys that can fill his role on the team.

Hurd’s biggest contribution to the team this year could be to add OL depth through a trade. I could definitely see anther Bobby Carpenter type of trade with a team were its a win win for both sides.

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by I'm a Cowboy on Aug 24, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Makes more sense now thanks.

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by Iron Fist on Aug 24, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Has nothing to do with the cap...

its a numbers game…and if we aren’t keeping 6 wrs Hurd is going to be cut…can’t be more clearer than that people.

by Boyzfan94 on Aug 24, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

we're keeping 6 WRs

unless one of them is traded.

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by Terry on Aug 24, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

talk to me after the weekend....

there is a better chance of us keeping 6 safties…

by Boyzfan94 on Aug 24, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's no practical reason for 6 veteran wide recievers

Why do you need 6 wide recievers? Do you plan on having 3 WRs out to injury?

The only reason you need to cary 6 WRs is if you’re developing them as prospects. And the only prospect in this bunch is Ogletree.

On the flip side, we have a lot of defensive back prospects. It’s better to invest in all the young defensive backs.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 24, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

2006 Week 1

Austin
Crayton
Glenn
Hurd
Owens
Rector

They dropped Rector in October to pick up a DB (Coleman)

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by lonewolfz28 on Aug 24, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

That makes more sense

Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.

by APerfectStar on Aug 25, 2010 5:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm doubting it...

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by Iron Fist on Aug 24, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldnt give up Hurd for a 4th.

The guy is a good special teams player and he can cover any WR position. I would much rather see if someone bites and takes Roy for a 2nd or a 3rd.

Playing Miles, Crayton, Bryant, Hurd and Ogletree doesnt sound bad at all to me.

by ManTab on Aug 24, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

That isn't a clear cut indication he is getting cut.

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by Iron Fist on Aug 24, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

looks pretty clear to me....

They know they aren’t getting much for him, but something is better than nothing if he is cut. I think they know they can’t swing 6 WRs….

by Boyzfan94 on Aug 24, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

for the record I would keep Hurd over Crayton...

I think Hurd has more speed, younger with just as good hands. I would try to trade Crayton is anything….

by Boyzfan94 on Aug 24, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

Romo trusts Crayton almost as much as he does Witten. If one guy is going, it’s Hurd. No question.

by Static on Aug 24, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has had 4 years to unseat Crayton and hasnt come close. Austin took off.

Ogletree has passed him and the fact that Holley is even mentioned in the same breath doesnt bode well for him.

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by squidlo97 on Aug 24, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I cant argue with that. Not saying we wont but thats unlikely.

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by squidlo97 on Aug 24, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well you also thought Bobby Carpenter was a good nickel LB

So your opinion isn’t exactly the gospel.

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by Iron Fist on Aug 24, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

Because every analysis besides your own says otherwise, meanwhile Burnett is starting in San Diego while Carpenter is buried on the bench in St. Louis.

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by Iron Fist on Aug 24, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah and what has Burnett done in San Diego besides being injured....

Burnett sucked as a nickel LB and you know it. Our pass coverage on TE’s improved when Carpenter manned that position. If u remember our LB’s couldn’t cover the TE’s worth a lick….Carpenter may not have been starting material, but he did a good job as the nickel LB and excelled on ST’s…can’t say that for Burnett…Let’s just hope Williams can do half as good as Carpenter at the nickel or TE’s will kill us again…

by Boyzfan94 on Aug 24, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh jeeeeeeez

carpenter was not covering the TE’s man. Sensi helped out with that.

He didn’t do good at ANYTHING…. ANYYYYYYYTHING. He is garbage. GARBAGE.

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by Iron Fist on Aug 24, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow are you serious Boyzfan?

1st time i ever heard anyone say Carpenter was better then Burnett at anything…i thought Burnett was decent in coverage from every game i watched & i never heard 1 report about Burnett not being able to cover or how great Carpenter was.
 Fact: they was pretty worried about replacing Burnett w/ Carpenter & from everything i saw they had every reason…
 also Burnett might’ve been hurt some but he didn’t miss but a couple games while w/ Dallas, if i rem correct.
 Fact: we drafted S.Lee in the 2nd rd for our subpackages & J.Williams is just a project buried on our ILB depth chart, like Carpenter is on the Rams

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by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Aug 24, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

For the record, Burnett was a 3 and Carp was a 1.

What does Carp sucking have to do with Burnett.

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by squidlo97 on Aug 24, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its still not relevant to Carp sucking.

I will agree that Carp looked slightly better in coverage but as others pointed out Sensi made the rest of the DBs look better, he certainly could have helped Carp.

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by squidlo97 on Aug 24, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why dont they trade Roy Williams for 1st, a 3rd, a 5th

and a decent back up for the Oline…….isnt there a manager who would do such thing? oh wait….

by ManTab on Aug 24, 2010 9:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Why dont they trade Roy Williams for 1st, a 3rd, a 5th

and a decent back up for the Oline…….isnt there a manager who would do such thing? oh wait….

by ManTab on Aug 24, 2010 9:32 AM CDT reply actions  

If you say it they will offer

If you say it they will offer.

S#$^ nothing yet for Roy?

OOOOOOOHHHHHHMMMMMMMMM
OOOOOOOHHHHHHMMMMMMMMM

How about now?

by Travlr on Aug 24, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Le Ouch indeed

Being an optimist however I say ……..
at least we did not give up 2 #1s this time

by Travlr on Aug 24, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Only the equivalent of a first and second this time!

Boy, this front office really learned from Parcells! They’re completely different!

by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 24, 2010 10:36 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Jerry learned but, Jerry will always be Jerry.

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by squidlo97 on Aug 24, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Show me a front office that's done a better job in the last 5 years.

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by DalaiLuke on Aug 25, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Technical question...

is anyone else not seeing the “new comments” by the number of comments on the board.

And if so.. how the hell do I fix that?

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by Iron Fist on Aug 24, 2010 10:02 AM CDT reply actions  

hmmm I tried that too

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by Iron Fist on Aug 24, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was earlier but left for 3 hours and its working.

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by squidlo97 on Aug 24, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sweet!

Thought I was the only one. Yeah, I can’t “Z” through new comments or anything.

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 24, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yay

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by Iron Fist on Aug 24, 2010 10:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Hurd

So the Cowboys aren’t shopping him, but others are asking about him? Is that what I am understanding?

Wouldn’t anything they got for him pick wise be worth it? Basically the #5/#6 WR is fairly useless to us other than a ST player (outside of preseason – showing us our 2nd/3rd string QBs).
Trade on the other hand — only really interested in OLine? QBs/TEs/Safety?

by fuji1232 on Aug 24, 2010 10:54 AM CDT reply actions  

if other teams are asking,

about hurd then surely we get better value for him?.

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by scotscowboyfan on Aug 24, 2010 11:17 AM CDT reply actions  

Finding the right trade partner

Actually we need to be discussing what teams have o-line depth but have needs where we have depth suchas wr,lb, etc. If these are the teams asking about Hurd then we might be able to put something together.

by Red Raider on Aug 24, 2010 1:07 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

doubtful

Brandon LaFell will probably have that honor.

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by Iron Fist on Aug 24, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not to mention that they spent also spent draft picks on Armanti Edwards and David Gettis.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 24, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, so we have the open roster spot

left behind by not keeping 2 kickers, and too many WR’s. So if we move Hurd we can keep both Church and McCray and fill some depth at OL. What say you?

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by fan since '65 on Aug 24, 2010 2:27 PM CDT reply actions  

You idiots

Make the trade now!!!!

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by quincyyyyy on Aug 24, 2010 2:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Whom are you speaking too?

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by Iron Fist on Aug 24, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is actually speaking to me.

How he knew I was trying to do a trade in Madden is just scary. ;-)

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by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 24, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes spooky even.

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by Iron Fist on Aug 24, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

The extra yyyy's are his psychic eyes.

Or are they his Private Eyes? They’re watching you. Pri-vate eyyyyyes!

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by fan since '65 on Aug 24, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, a first on BTB

A Hall and Oates reference, nice.

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by APerfectStar on Aug 25, 2010 5:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Cowboys organization

But more specifically Gurode. Anytime I say idiot, stupid, etc. it is always directly or indirectly directed at Gurode.

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by quincyyyyy on Aug 24, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

All the Holley Talk

makes me wonder what happened to Manny Johnson. He doesn’t even seem to be in the conversation. He should have worked a little harder on special teams if he wanted to make the team.

by JimmyJohnson on Aug 24, 2010 3:51 PM CDT reply actions  

If S Holmes and T Ginn Jr

are worth 5ths, what’s Hurd worth?

Sounds like a tough sell . . . .

by Bayou Cowboy on Aug 24, 2010 4:38 PM CDT reply actions  

LMAO!!

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by squidlo97 on Aug 24, 2010 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

gotta agree there

Santonio Holmes I dont care what people say is a really good WR
he is fast has good hands and runs good routes
his footwork is great
if he is a 5th rd pick then Sam Hurd is worth nothing unless a team is seriously wanting him
I like Sam Hurd but Holmes is a 5th rd pick so Hurd cant be anything honestly

by Archie Barberio on Aug 24, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a fair question

Probably a 6th at best, likely a 7th, or in the best case scenario, a player for player trade: Hurd for a backup C/G.

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by APerfectStar on Aug 25, 2010 5:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

T.Ginn Jr is worthless as a WR

he might be ok as a return man but the guy just can’t catch passes.
 i think their should be a few teams intrested in Hurd but its not going to be anything outstanding. if were just getting a 7th pick them maybe Jerry can find someone to set a pick to named in the future from his production so that we could possibly get a 5th if he produces.

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by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Aug 24, 2010 5:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Cross off the Vikings

They just traded a CB to the dolphins for a WR.

by Rena on Aug 25, 2010 1:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Just one of many trades.....

that should happen. Crayton, Spears, one of the older starters on the oline (this requires a serious replacement in the trading).

They are long DBs and LBs also.

Two better, younger/midrange olinemen are important. A better qb backup shouldn’t be ruled out. TE/FB seems unsettled with Phillips on IR but they may like their current prospects.

3-5 moved in trades, 2 back and hopefully a better draft position next year.

by Cwon1 on Aug 26, 2010 7:45 AM CDT reply actions  

Who is going to trade you anything for all of these guys?

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by Iron Fist on Aug 26, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do you realize...

About 837 players are facing cuts? Sure some will go to PS but even then you have at the least 589 unprotected player to be unemployed. Where are the Cowboys on the waiver list?

Of course they should trade, it’s as important as the after draft UDFA after the regular draft. There are contract extension disputes, expiring rookie contracts, position overlaps etc.

Most of the players mentioned are very ordinary except in Cowboyland. That’s how they get overrated and disappointment factor is always high. They have “probowlers” who are not, like at guard and center. Because of the contracts they tend to overhold players rather than cut losses. Roy Williams is a perfect example of that, given the bonus that will fly on hope. Same for Barber, Newman to a lesser degree.

Watch what happens to the Jets big signings (including Revis who will sign soon), DECLINE-A-STAN. It happens everywhere.

What the cowboys have done with most of the LB’s is the right policy. Keep drafting and replacing. They did part of the right thing with the oline and younger people but they are two years behind. It leaves them with two extra fat guys past peak.

by Cwon1 on Aug 26, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Keep Hudgins.....

he isn’t going to clear waivers.

by Cwon1 on Aug 26, 2010 7:46 AM CDT reply actions  

There are 31 other teams....

go look at the trading activity so far. Teams are filling holes all the time.

You sound like your part of the current front office, they need to get off their hands and make some trades.

by Cwon1 on Aug 26, 2010 9:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Ummmm

there isn’t that much trade activity.

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by Iron Fist on Aug 26, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Apathy is everywhere

most are hoping to fill holes in the cut cycle and the second FA period. There have been some trades. Detroit, Miami, Min, Seattle….

by Cwon1 on Aug 26, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

These are some of the big names that have been moved this month.

the big assets are Lawrence Jackson, Gregg Camerillo, Benny Sapp, and Quinn Ojinnaka.

Making trades just for the sake of making a trade is dumb.

If there is value out there, fine, trade for it, but show me where it is instead of being like “they just need to make a trade.”

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by Iron Fist on Aug 26, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're kidding yourself....

if you think the oline is better than average at this point. If you have value players you should trade for need or add draft picks.

by Cwon1 on Aug 26, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

sigh

When did I say I think the oline is better than average?

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by Iron Fist on Aug 26, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

All trades are a risk....

as with all roster moves. The cowboys are excess 5 players and short 3 by my count. That’s a tradable 5 in my mind.

Keep the younger players like hudgins, holly, mccann, dixon and sicko. Make the space with trades. bigger trade in the oline shouldn’t ruled out but likely it is due to cowboy culture.

by Cwon1 on Aug 26, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok who do you trade?

Tell me who you trade and why. And what do you think that someone will give for them?

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by Iron Fist on Aug 26, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Next time I'm bored...

I’m going to compile a list of all of our players this guy has suggested trading away from our playoff caliber team from last season. It seems like every other thread there’s a different list.

To read some of his posts, you’d think we were the Rams or Lions that need major turnover in personnel.

Did this team need a few tweaks and upgrades? Definitely.
Does it need to try and trade away 5+ players and make wholesale changes? Definitely NOT!

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by lonewolfz28 on Aug 26, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Guys I would...

trade for sure. These are progress stoppers;

Crayton, Hurd, Spears.

Excess choices if there is a market for fair exchange, likely for oline developing but not rookies which we have;

Curtis Johnson, Octavian, L.William. We are long one young DB in my count as well if you can live with TWillliams on the 53.

If the prices made sense and they can be covered on the current role; R Williams, Sensabaugh, LDavis or any of the other older linemen some of whom are hurt. At least one older linemen should go this year. It might take replacement trade on the inside. Way too much comfort in that area.

It’s only in Cowboyland fantasy that these guys are that important or you can’t imagine moves like this. Around the league guys of this speed don’t get to the probowl and lifetime/career status. The oline has declined for years, I’m not for big bonus trades either. More Doug Free types.

I thought Brewster might be playing at guard, I don’t see him starting right now at tackle. I’d rather work on the inside line. It would take good prices to move some of these guys, I’m not so sure with the CBA that exists.

Keep Holly, Hudgins, McCann and McCray and Sicko. Surely some above of the listed may have no market or a fair price may not exist. This is true everywhere as well. Changing the oline now to a degree and more picks next year is a logical goal.

by Cwon1 on Aug 26, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fantasyland?

You still aren’t understanding what people are saying.

It isn’t anything against trading these guys(although I think trading Sensabaugh would be mildly retarded.), its about your idea that you are going to get that much in return.

Spears was shopped, not a sniff. Hurd is being shopped. Not a sniff.

If you think all these players suck, why would other teams want to give up that much? Or do you want 8 7th rounders next year?

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by Iron Fist on Aug 27, 2010 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wait...

you mean this isn’t the Fantasy Football thread?

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by lonewolfz28 on Aug 27, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haha

Is what I’m saying making sense?

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by Iron Fist on Aug 27, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

It is to me.

And probably to most others as well.

I see the same non-answer every time someone asks the question about who’s going to give up anything for these players or points out the fact you need two to tango. I gave up trying to talk sense about it after getting nothing after my long response to their proposal to go after the dregs of the San Francisco O-Line in another thread.

Now I’m just using them for comedy relief.

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by lonewolfz28 on Aug 27, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

maybe we can trade our starting O-line for the Jets starting O-line?

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by DalaiLuke on Aug 27, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah why not?

Why waste that line on Mark, should really have a mustache, Sanchez?

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by Iron Fist on Aug 27, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Straight up...

even swap. Jerry is a master trade negotiator. He can get it done.LOL

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by lonewolfz28 on Aug 27, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about Roy Williams to San Diego?

You think they don’t need a reciever there? Not going to happen because of money.

by Cwon1 on Aug 26, 2010 10:05 AM CDT reply actions  

SD doesn't need RW

They have Floyd and Nanuu as starters both of which are better than RW

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by Terry on Aug 26, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is there any team that truly "needs" Roy Williams?

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by Seanrude on Aug 26, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know if Cincy has enough Dallas players.

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by Iron Fist on Aug 26, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oklahoma in the 70s and Nebraska in the 80s come to mind.

Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-

by squidlo97 on Aug 26, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see what you did there!

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by Seanrude on Aug 26, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Out of 100 oline cuts coming.....

there isn’t one promising guard the cowboys would like ot lock up rather than wait on waivers?

That doesn’t make sense.

by Cwon1 on Aug 28, 2010 3:36 PM CDT reply actions  

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