John Phillips Out For Season with Torn ACL
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 10:55 AM CDT
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Our worst fears have been confirmed. The MRI results have come in on backup TE John Phillips' right knee and they show a torn anterior cruciate ligament.
Before last night's game, the tight end position looked to be one of strength for the Cowboys. Now they will have to adjust accordingly, whether that means keeping an extra fullback or bringing in another TE.
Either way, this is a heavy loss after just the first preseason game. Here's TE coach John Garrett on the news:
"It's disappointing because he was having such a great camp and such a great game," tight ends coach John Garrett said after Sunday night's preseason win.
"But I know one thing: He's got great resolve. He's got great perseverance. If there's anybody going to come back even stronger than he was before, it'll be John Phillips."
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baad feelin about this year.....
last 2 weeks ive had strong feeling that this year is gonna be labled the year of the injuries… sure hope its just a feeling.. but so far its becoming a epidemic of sorts , feel really bad for phillips, what a camp he was havin, im almost afraid to see this thursdays game , whats next ?
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
Knock on wood bro
No more injuries please.
by Cowboysaficionado on Aug 9, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Dude, that's a little presumptuous.
This team has depth, and TE is one of those spots they have depth. Other teams are suffering injuries out there. Even if it’s a star player, they’ve got to get through it no matter who is in.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Man this sucks....I was starting to like the upside of Phillips....
being a better #2 TE option than Bennett. I guess this means Sicko is just about a lock to make the team now….
Yeah, and he played all the TE positions.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
That's the way I look at it.
I really wanted to see Sicko make the roster. Horrible that it happened this way but at leas it wasn’t another position I’ll leave unnamed
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Projected 2010 Record: 12-4. You heard it here first
We'll be fine.
If anything, I’m just disappointed that we will not be able to see how much Phillips has matured as a player. There will one day be a decision made concerning keeping Phillips or Bennett.
Phillips has shown more progress than Bennett has and would have been an impact player this year. I feel bad for the kid.
Let’s hope Bennett comes to work.
I tend to agree
Phillips was becoming a dependable player. Bennett is clearly the superior athlete, but that doesn’t always translate onto the football field.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
do they really need to bring in another TE?
Come on, Bennett will be back soon and he’s better than Phillips. I don’t know the severity of Brock’s injury but he’s not a stiff. Sicko has some promise, but he needs to improve his strength.
if Brock can bring the wood like you said he could
we could still have a position of strength.
an unintended benefit is that we don’t have to put one of our guys out there to be snatched up off of the practice squad. I’d still rather have Phillips.
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Brock has "severe" ankle sprain.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd hope not.
Would rather see the Sickster and Brock (Lesnar?) battle it out and keep the Big Gronkowski in their back pocket.
All the stories out there are suggesting they are “suddenly thin” at TE though.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Right, because everybody except WItten is hurt at the moment
but Bennett should be back soon.
If he and Brock can't go this Thursday, then they may have to grab someone.
It would be someone like that Tow-Arnett guy but I think he was signed by Atlanta or something.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
He signed with the Seahawks about two days ago
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 9, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Brock Lesnar?
Sign me up. Hell put him at fullback, forget the 2 TE set.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Bennett maybe more talented.
But he’s a mental midget.
That’s not the usual make up of a great TE.
The mental part of the game is what separates those with natural talent from greatness.
I was hoping Phillips could hold down that second TE position so we could trade Bennett before he does something stupid enough to get him self suspended.
I just don’t think he takes the game or life that serious.
Hated the pick from day one.
by Sharksbreath on Aug 9, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Not that I'm a big Bennett fan these days...
but I find it ironic that you are calling someone a mental midget after reading some of your posts.
I mean, you’re the same guy that said we should trade Anthony Spencer and Mike Jenkins for Desean Jackson.
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by Iron Fist on Aug 9, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
And no...
I don’t forget anything.
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Nice
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
That's MY line!!!
#$#%^#$%^##!
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
now thats a smackdown!! lol
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Aug 10, 2010 3:01 AM CDT up reply actions
What is your basis that he's a "mental midget"?
I’m just curious.
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 9, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
lets see here......
dumb tweets… dumb videos… dumb ex girlfriend,,, cant seem to get into the passing game,, obviously ignores wittens example of how to do it right,,, anything else i left out ?
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
I could care less about his tweets or his videos.
That doesn’t mean a damn thing on the football field. I’ve seen plenty of football players that were great on the field but could barely speak English of it.
You say he can’t get into the passing game, I saw “what more do you want”.
Witten caught 94 passes for 1,030 yards last season. Austin had well over 1,000 yards. The Cowboys had over 2,000 yards rushing as a team.
How much of an impact are you expecting Bennett to make? He was MONEY in the blocking game last season, and that was insanely important to this offense.
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 9, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
The only reason people are down on Marty B is because he had drops last year...
After catching everything that came his way in his rookie season.
not sayin he wasnt important ......
just was a answer at to why his mind isnt where it should be as to the passing game. he needs to concentrate on that a lil more.
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
This is the same Romo argument.
“He should be studying film, not playing golf”
So, instead of being out at bars and clubs and partying, he’s making retarded videos on YouTube. Oh darn.
His tweets and videos mean squat to me when it comes to his work ethic.
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 9, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
fact is....
he wont be a starter untill he learns to be a better reciever… ala.. witten , sure marty is a great blocker, good and fine, but untill he shows consistency in pass game hell never be a starter. that said im not hatin on mb, it would add a lot to the passing game and take heat off witten if he were to become a receiving threat as well……
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
He...doesn't...need...to...be...a....starter.
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 9, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait..
Take heat off Witten for what?
He caught 94 passes last year.
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 9, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
so your saying it would be better he keeps a mindset of being a perrinial back up all his life?
no hes not a starter , but he needs to have a mentality that transfers to the field when games count not in preseason . if he were to become more of a receiver then it would make it harder for teams to double witten… yess ?
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
I understand that.
What I’m saying is that the fact that he only caught 15 last season doesn’t mean he can’t catch 40-50 if given a chance. It was disappointing, sure, but there just weren’t enough balls to go around to give him that chance last year.
And of course there’s going to be a dropoff from Witten to ANYBODY. The guy is the best in the game at what he does.
Look, I’m not giving up on Bennett. Do I think Phillips had a shot to be a legitimate #1 down the line…of course. That doesn’t mean that Bennett can’t either.
My whole point is that I think it’s unfair to look at his statistical production last season and say he’s a bust — or whatever. You have to look at the big picture.
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 9, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
very true,,,excelent points )
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
Well, truth be told...
he continued to struggle with the mental aspect and it was clear Romo was freezing him out.
If you’re not where you are supposed to be in your route, QB’s tend to see you as an INT waiting to happen.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
+1
Was just having a conversation about that during the game with a friend of mine who is a Bears fan……told him that Cutler will just flat out quit throwing to folks that arent where they are suppose to be because Martz runs a timing offense, and the trhows sometimes take place before the WR makes his cut
"My days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle"
What if Witten goes down?
Bennett isn’t close to being a do it all guy like Witten. And he scoffs at the notion of looking up to, or learning from Witten. He’d rather watch film on Andre Johnson, which apparently isn’t helping him at all on catching passes.
Sure he does a good job blocking, maybe he just needs to be a little more humble.
by Cowboysaficionado on Aug 9, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
+ 10
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
when they tweet, they know they do it for an audience
I seriously doubt he scoffs at Witten, tweeting is at best tounge in cheek
by AustonianAggie on Aug 9, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Let me ask you this.
How many TE in the NFL are close to being a complete TE like Witten?
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 9, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah that's kind silly.
And as people like Phillips, he isn’t Witten either.
Just like…. wait for it… Ogletree isn’t better than Crayton or Roy Williams yet based on a few plays.
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Phillips watches closely and emmulates every single move Witten does
Who’s to say he can’t get to that level one day?
by Cowboysaficionado on Aug 9, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
ONE day.
You think he’s going to be Witten this year?
Really?
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You implied it.
By talking about Bennett not being able to come in and do exactly what Witten does, you are implying that Phillips can.
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hehehe or did u jus read into it ....
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
There's also no saying whether Bennett can become that #1 guy either.
The light may have clicked on for him this summer. Being hurt and away from your teammates can give you some new perspective. He’s shut his youtube channel down. Maybe he’s rededicated himself.
What I don’t get is how everyone is ready to completely write Bennett off while saying Phillips is the Next Great Thing.
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 9, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe the expectations....
off of a few catches last year and some catches in the preseason are being a LITTLE overexaggerated?
Also, lets not act like Bennett is someone who can’t make plays once in a while.
Washington in 2008
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well lets see what Bennett can prove in his 3rd year
Phillips & Ogletree were rookies last year & both made catches that were important to keeping drives alive. Ogletree always seems to make great catches & seems to be in the right area, which is a good sign. Crayton has peaked in his career & Ogletree’s has just started…
Bennett should have his “breakout” year this year & if he’s ever going to make it on this team he’ll have to prove it this season. Bennett has more pressure now bc he doesn’t Phillips to take up his slack. we drafted Bennett to be a pass catching TE & so far he hasn’t been dependable
Phillips was a 6th rd pick that stepped right in & made great blocks, picked up the offense quick & made some clutch catches to keep drives alive so far bennett hasn’t been worth a 2nd rd pick. this is where drafting athletic freaks for potential over players with knowlwdge to understand quicker with slightly lesser measurables.
judging from last year i would pick Phillips over Bennett just bc you know phillips is going to get the job done. with Bennett you have no clue what your going to get.
also people see things differently & it doesn’t make 1 person right & the other wrong. opinions are what the comment section of blogs are for.
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by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Aug 12, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you on this team?
A trainer or something? Because you certainly seem to have great insight into the inner workings, desires and goals of these players.
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 9, 2010 1:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Relax guys
I’m just tired of Bennett’s everlasting superb potential never materialized. As of now, he’s just a very capable blocking tight end.
by Cowboysaficionado on Aug 9, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
He showed promise as a rookie
Took a bit of a step back in his sophomore season. That happens a lot, in every sport.
Let’s see what happens this season before we say his potential never materialized. He’s certainly going to get his chances.
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 9, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I think this is the approach
the team is taking as well.If he makes progress this year, all is well. If not, they may move on.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Are you serious
He won’t be a starter because Jason Witten is infront of him…. Use some common sense.
no matter what could happen
he will never be a starter with witten there, he could be superman and still witten would go ahead, and by the way platin on the 22 he’s technically a starter
Yes
They need to run their 2 TE offense (and their 3 TE package) in camp and someone has to fill those spots.
Fresh meat!!!
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
But they went all out to get this Sicko kid.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
But he's not much of a blocker
…and with Brock out and 4 more preseason games ahead of them?
Yikes.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
The FBs..don't forget about Gronkowski and Crickett.
I swear I saw Gronksky moving up and down the line last night. He should at least help get them through preseason.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm with Aaron,keep "Ironhead Gronkowski.
Now it’s up to JG to come up with a new wrinkle,having 2 fullbacks that can lay some wood and catch some balls.And really I see 1 compete all world TE,1 very good blocking TE who can get down the field on occasionand make some plays(MartyB),1 pass catching TE(Sicko).
..And yes I too was looking forward to seeing Phillips do his thing,the plus is it is Phillips and not Marty,Phillips we know will do the right things and be the same guy he was before the injury.
Let's be clear...
None of these guys is Chris Cooley.
Dallas runs a TE-heavy offense. We are who we are.
Depending on JG for wrinkles is like depending on Boniol to turn Buehler into Jason Elam.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I disagree...
Marty B has shown his dong like Coolster.
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All I'm asking for is JG to use....
what he has,hoping to find a TE that can fill in for Phillips or come close to his production is a waste of time,unless of course they can find a Mike Lucky or an ex cowboy TE who get’s cut loose before the season.
…And don’t get me wrong if a Crumpler or somebody of that ilk comes free fine,but still if you have 2 FBs that can block and catch a little,why can’t JG come up with a wrinkle for them.I’m sure his mentors(Norv+Ernie) would have been able to use them.Hell I could probably come up with some plays that would work. And before you ask yes I played into college and I coach a little when asked.
i liked Gronkowski''s potential
this kid seems to have a big heart but i would like to see how he catches the ball out of the backfield. Crickett was great at ST’s & was decent at FB but we could use an upgrade at that position. also has anyone heard about Deon’s & his troubles with the law?
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by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Aug 12, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
5,
can you give more light to your comment about Sicko not being much of a blocker?
thanks
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Yup
http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/scottsickointerview.htm
Alex Khvatov: What are your strengths on the football field?
Scott Sicko: I think that my biggest strength is my pass catching. You never get satisfied with it though. You always try to get better.
Alex Khvatov: What areas of your game do you still need to improve upon?
Scott Sicko: Blocking and getting stronger. We were running a spread offense at New Hampshire, so I was more of a receiving tight end. I needed to get bigger and improve my strength.
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
can't beat that
I knew you had a reason for what you said. I just thought his blocking looked good last night so I had to ask.
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He may yet turn out to be a good blocker...
but Dallas still needs camp bodies if they don’t intend to wear guys like sicko down and rookies can barely find their way out of the locker room.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
So 5 how many blockers do we need?
Witten and MartyB are blockers w/very good recieving skills,Sicko would be the pass catcher+G’ski is a very good blocker and played FB/HB/TE @ ‘Zona,so we have 3 TE’s+ a hybrid in Grankowski.Besides what good is bringing in another project TE for anything other than a camp body which would slow ’Ski’s development in his move to help that position.
If Sicko
Is good enough Im sure he will be included in some sort of package just like Kevin Ogletree was (bubble screen)
We don't need a special use player
We need a strong blocking tight end to facilitate our power running game. 3rd string TEs in this league don’t catch passes because they don’t need to. Their first and foremost responsibility is to block well and open up the running lanes.
Phillips could do that. The fact he was a great reciever was just a bonus. Sick can catch… he’s got the bonus. But does he have the basic requirement blocking skills to be useful to our running game?
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 10, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
brock has an ankle sprain
according to the dmn.
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/08/cowboys-injury-updates-titus-r.html
It's all good. NBC calls Brock's right ankle sprain "severe"...whatever that means.
Doesn’t sound like Dez’s though with the “high” sprain.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
It means a lot of swelling and some soft tissue strain
The ankle is a pretty interesting joint given how much lateral movement it can manage (along with it’s forward-backward range).
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I'd take a severe ankle sprain over a high ankle sprain anyday.
That’s just my opinion after dealing through both
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That all depends
If it’s a grade 3 sprain, that means the ligaments are completely torn… you don’t want that
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
I feel terrible for phillips, he really has put the work in!
but bennett is a better TE because he is more of a reciever threat down the field. only if martellus stopped focusing so much on his twitter/rap career!
Phillps is a substantial loss.
He can play FB, HB and both TE spots. Plus he was having a great camp. Sicko has the door open, but he’s still a rookie. We all know the Boys don’t like playing rookies.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not either
loved him initially but he just seems too limited on an otherwise very talented offense.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Can we really count on MB?
Think about it. VERY inconsistent last year, and his focus seems to be elsewhere. Yes he’s a mamoth TE with great potential but how many players are out there with seemingly “great potential”?
Until MB steps up and starts making plays, moves the chains, catches those short 5-10 yard passes on a consistent bases and makes holes for the RB’s, he’s really just another TE “with potential”. Yeah, he’s the only healthy TE we have but he REALLY needs to step up his play and go out and make plays.
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
I think they were looking at Phillips playing all the same type of blocking roles as Witten,
and then unleashing Marty B up the field more this season.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Hang on
how much were you counting on John Phillips for?
Jason Witten is the number one. He’s gonna catch 85-95 balls. Miles Austin is gonna get his. Roy and Dez will get theirs.
The 2nd F-back needs to block and catch about 25 balls or so.
MB can do this just as well as Phillips. The guy is being rightfully shut down to get his ankle to full health. All I have is what I see, and the guy had a week where he and Phillips both praticed together. Bennett blocked better and got up the field better and he was gimpy after every catch.
which means that even at maybe 80% he was a better receiver than Phillips
I’m very disappointed for Phillips. He was really coming on. But even coming on, he was still the 3rd TE on this team.
RAF, I'm sorry but your off base here.
Watching a guy at practice can tell you nothing about a player like YouTube and Tweets.
Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-
by squidlo97 on Aug 9, 2010 8:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
okay...so i goofed...
MB is the 2nd healthy TE we have..
But again, can he be counted on? He’s certainly no Witten. JP is a Witten in the making and that’s awfully hard to replace until next season.
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
nobody can be counted on
because football hurts and you can’t predict injuries.
Can you count on John Phillips?
based on his play....
I think so. He was having a great camp and certainly putting in the work. Can the same be said of MB? Yeah, I know he’s hurt but I’m talking about his entire career with the Cowboys.
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
Bennett kicked butt in camp last year.
Bennett is in it to win it!
Too cheezy?
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
public perception is highly skewed
if he’s so lazy, why’s he putting in so much work in the weight room, or blocking, not much glamour in blocking, etc etc
You can’t make a team out of try hard guys, you end up with loveable losers like the Cubs. You need real physical talent at a certain point
by AustonianAggie on Aug 9, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
And didn't FO rank MartyB as the 2nd best blocking TE in the league last year?
It was in one of OCC’s stories.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think it's about effort at all
the only negative that’s been said about Marty has referred to “focus”. And by that I think we can all infer knowing where to be on the field and what to do when you get there. He is either just slower on the uptake or he hasn’t put in the mental reps. But he’s not lazy. The guy works hard and busted his butt doing THE least glamorous thing a TE is asked to do – block.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I think you're pretty right on with that assessment
He has the desire to perform well, and he puts his all into blocking. His problems in the pass game are part focus, and partly that you can’t tell guys like Bennett ANYTHING. It’s more personality than mental horsepower, but they get (and sometimes stay full time) in a zone where anything you tell them goes in one ear and out the other. The passing game carries much more intricacy, and I’m afraid all the nuances being handed down by Garrett, Witten and others on how to succeed in this area are just bouncing off into the ether.
And as Raf pointed out the other day
guys learn at different rates. Lee looks like he gets it and James took a while to catch on. With Jenkins the light went on pretty early and Scandrick is still getting there to some degree.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
How do you know?
What is the basis of you saying “you can’t tell guys like Bennett anythng”? Or any of your other comments for that matter? Have you met him? Coached him?
by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 9, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
In the same boat.
I do worry that Bennett lacks motivation though. I think he can be coached, but the glaring reports out there are that he might not love football.
I don’t think it can be said that he can’t be coached though.
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Almost every TE in the league is "certainly no Witten".
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Bright side of this (eventhough I'm a huge JP fan)
Sicko is more athletic and is a better receiver. We won’t have to fear a team raiding him from our practice squad. Now we can use this year to develop him AND keep Phillips.
Just a reminder: Phillips was our 3rd TE! Our offense won’t miss a beat.
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Sicko can't block at this level
he needs time to gain strength. Maybe he’ll work out, but I don’t think he’s entering the league NFL ready to block like John Phillips did
by AustonianAggie on Aug 9, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
The announcers actually pointed out a play when he blocked well
I didn’t see him getting dominated or anything. But it is his receiving skills that our enticing.
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What is your basis on this assessment?
Of Sicko?
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If his combine numbers mean anything he is our most athletic TE
And he has good hands. I believe he had the most receptions last night out of anyone. If we tried to hide him on the practice squad there is no doubt in mind someone would have picked him up.
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Correct
Sicko 5 rec for 44 yards for an 8.8 avg
Phillips 4 rec for 60 yards for a 15.0 avg
Rabid and luvin' it
He'll have to work on his blocking
but so did Witten coming into the league
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Yeah, he didn't look bad last night as far as I can remember.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Ture.
And I have plenty of faith in John Garrett.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
And Sicko seems to be a smart guy, should be easy to coach him.
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Was that a dig on Telly B?
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
That's what I was thinking...puts a good spin on the bad news if Sicko can prove he's more than a Bjornson.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I hope he gets that number changed
..maybe to 40-something. The first 2 names that come to mind w/ 86 are Bjornson and Stanback. Not good.
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by MicThaRock on Aug 9, 2010 2:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I guess I'm showing my age.
I recognize the name but he wasn’t the first to come up.
Cooler than a polar bear's toenails.
by MicThaRock on Aug 10, 2010 3:34 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
3rd TE is Block-first TE
Your 3rd TE isn’t put in there to catch passes. How many passes did all the 3rd TEs in the league catch combined last year? Probobly fewer than Jason Witten.
Your 3rd TE need to be a mauling blocker, it’s a run-first formation. The ball was run 2/3rds of the time out of the 13 formation and passed only 1/3rd of it. And the number of those targets to the 3rd TE? Maybe three.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 9, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
huge lost
Phillips should be out lead blocker this year and second TE…so it hurts much then you think
Yes, he hasnt Bennett"s upside, but he is hardworker, who is doing his job better than one of the most athletic TE in a league…
IMHO I prefer Phillips over Bennett, now Anderson will be our full time lead blocker and Bennett second TE, I dont think we need another TE…Sicko is still there, give him the chance…
before there was law, there were the Cowboys!!!
I'm with you on Phillips being a better tight end than MB.
According to Raf MB is having a good camp, but we’ve seen good camps before. When it comes to playing in games I think Phillips has proven more. He looks like Witten #2 when he’s out there.
Agreed
Phillips was all over the place last night making very good plays when it mattered…in game time. And, it didn’t matter who was throwing him the ball either.
Rabid and luvin' it
So... How about our Back Up Linebackers? Serious Quality there
should make for great special teamers
We have some serious studs
I’m hoping Lee, JWill, and BWill provide some quality minutes this year.
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nah
if you are going that route, just use the backup fullback
"My days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle"
Yep, actually am very much
I have heard it on hear before, so not a new idea, but would like to see McGee get reps with the first or even second unit, he was running for his life last night with the third unit
"My days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle"
well he's not Steve Young back there
but he’s ok, he’s better than some other back ups.
Stephen McGee showed me he has the tools to compete in the NFL during that game too. Wait tell these guys are playing with WRs who actually get open.
I was not suprised to see McGee aiming for Terrel Hudgins, that dude also has a knack for getting open
by AustonianAggie on Aug 9, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
about worries
1) I worried about our OL depth, if someone get hurt …then
2)…then I am beginning to worry about Romo"s life…
before there was law, there were the Cowboys!!!
yeah one injury to a guard
and it’s open season on Dallas’s QBs again.
by AustonianAggie on Aug 9, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I didn't think he looked too bad last night.
We should get a better feel when Romo sits out the last preseason game, so Kit can play with the 1st team.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
No way! Really?
Kitna is much more mobile and way more aggressive.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope McGee gets a lot of playing time in the preseason, he needs it.
I think the Boys have a better chance with McGee than they would with Kitna, should Romo go down for an extended time. For a game or two Kitna might be ok, but for more than that I think Mc Gee would give them the best chance.
I like saying the name McGee.
But the kid needs a ton of snaps before I want him anywhere near a reg season game. He didn’t see hardly any action last year remember.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
And his 10 yard passes don't look like jump shots
by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 9, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
and he never got a MLB contract!
be grateful we’re not fielding the MLB’s also rans anymore
by AustonianAggie on Aug 9, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
This was my main concern
after watching Kitna and Mcgee. I think Romo makes our O-line so much better with his ability to move around the pocket. Seeing Kitna back there scares me.
i just like the fact that we....
are spending this much time on our # 3 players…..it seems like there was a time not to long ago when we didn’t even know who would be the starters….good times..
I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....
well said
love that we are worried about the 3rd string QB and 3rd TE
"My days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle"
Would you rather have JT O'Sullivan and Jordan Palmer?
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 9, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
No, but that doesn't have anything to do with it
and i know everyone would be in trouble if their QB got hurt. Doesn’t mean I can’t worry about it.
That's true.
I just like to stay relative with my judgment. The drop from the Cowboys’ #1 to #2 is significantly more than most teams’, because of the level Romo plays at. I would still be worried if Romo went out, but I wouldn’t be as worried if this were 2008 and we had Rudy Carpenter relieving Brad Johnson at Giants Stadium.
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 9, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Not Really
Remember Curtis Painter playing for the Colts in the last 2 regular season games last year?
How about some Rex Grossman in Washington
Or maybe Luke McCown’s 2009 passer rating of 42 in three games last year for the Jaguars
Hell, the Rams went out of their way to try to FIX their backup QB situation and ended up with A.J. Feeley.
and I could go on and on.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 9, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Kitna and McGee inspire the hell of confidence out of me compared to most teams
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 9, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 9, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
This thread is approved by Jason Garrett
Per David Moore, MNN
“I thought [McGee] did a nice job,’’ Garrett said. "I thought he handled some different situations well.
It wasn’t always clean, but I thought he used his feet well. I thought he got the ball out of his hand and made some good, quick decisions. He threw it to the right guy, threw it accurately and played decisively. We’ll go back and look at it play by play and see some areas where he can get better. But I thought his command was good.’’
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 9, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
the thread is approved by Va_Cowboys_Fan
i thought he held on the ball to long & took sacks when he could’ve threw it away. he also was quick to scamble & take sacks when he had people open. i think that quote is accurate for the first coupe series but after that he wasn’t a factor & looked lost
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by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Aug 12, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
nice shot!
Romo has a perfect pocket move and his ability to step up is on the highest level …
before there was law, there were the Cowboys!!!
Starting Oline went out with Romo. Kitna had same blockers as the 3 and 4 QB.
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by squidlo97 on Aug 9, 2010 8:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't think thats true
I’m pretty sure Barron only had a series or two.
Kitna actually had a better night statistically...
than Romo did.
Name …..CP/AT YDS TD INT
S. McGee 12/22 116 .. 0 .. 0
T. Romo … 5/10 59… 0 .. 0
J. Kitna…… 4/7 . 56…. 0.. 0
M. Nichols.. 2/2 .. 9 … 0.. 0
Rabid and luvin' it
That's somewhat promising.
I don’t remember him looking that good, but that may have been the 2nd string O-Line more than Kitna.
no INTs any where
that’s something you want to see out of your backups in preseason
by AustonianAggie on Aug 9, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
i was happy with kitna..
seemed like he had some zip on the ball. im not all that worried with the back-ups, kitna’s always been more than decent..
I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....
Could McGee be our Matt Schaub?
What are the chances we could trade him to a team like the Oakland raiders for their first and third and maybe a late round pick?
Or am I just being overly optimistic?
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overly optimistic
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, way overly optimistic
I thought McGee’s arm looked fine last night, but he doesn’t have a quick release/decision-making you need in the NFL.
Half the time he was running for his life because his 3 seconds were up.
Playing with scrubs? Yeah, but going against scrubs too.
In many years of preseason football, you get an eye for when a guy can handle the QB position or not.
Saw something in Romo. Saw something iin Matt Moore.
See nothing in McGee.
Unless he gets much better the next month, I don’t think he’ll ever be more than a 3rd QB, and I hope Dallas tries again next year in the draft.
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by Realist Larry on Aug 9, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Personally I don't think we've had enough time or quality
Put him behind the second team O-line and give him some reps. I’m not saying let him replace Jon Kitna, but we need to see if he can be our long-term solution. If he spends every play running for his life, we’ll never know.
I agree-"Unless he gets much better the next month"
As I said, but what if he still looks the same in Sept.?
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by Realist Larry on Aug 9, 2010 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I think...
You overestimate your ability to evaluate talent.
Not saying you’re entirely wrong, but in year 2 you were thinking Romo could be a starting QB?
Sure you did.
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For me..
I don’t think I thought he would be a starter to this level…but I definitely saw “something.”
I started to last night with McGee.
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 9, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's not forget.
Romo’s big “coming out party” against Seattle in 2006 preseason, he played the entire game, and half the game with the starters.
It makes one heck of a difference.
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 9, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
No, but in Year 2 I saw potential and a guy who may be a player in the NFL.
I thought he ws going to be a good #2 the following year and was glad we kept him.
McGee has 4 more games and could improve, but he looks lost.
So much of a QB is mental.
How could ANY of us here overestimate our eye? We’re all the best fans in the world and know everything!
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by Realist Larry on Aug 9, 2010 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
With the Raiders, I suspect ANYTHING is possible.
by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 9, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL nope
The first round picks are going to actually become MORE valuable going forward….assuming they put a cap on the rookie money, people will not be so willing to trade out of the first round, the financial risk will be reduced
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really disappointed
phillips had his name called the whole first half; he was really having a nice game. i realize the loss of the 3rd TE can hardly be considered catastrophic, but i was really rooting for him.
Dunk, it's time for the Dalai APB!
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought for sure that long thread the other day would flush him out.
Time to call in the heavy artillary.
Dalai! Have some smelling salt.
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Tom Landry
National Geographic photographer - what a job (cough, cough)
We’re going to need to extend this shoot indefinitely, I can’t seem to get the right backlighting in here.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
by APerfectStar on Aug 10, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
my hope is that mcgee gets alot more reps with 1st team so w can actually see him at his best, i feel hes a better answer at no 2 qb
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kitna jus doesnt impress me and is a lil slow in pocket
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Kitna was never more than a marginal starter
He had a couple good years but has not had a distinguished career. That makes him a good candidate to be a decent #2. How many starting quality #2’s are there in the NFL?
by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 9, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
hell, in Brett Farve doesn't come back
Minny is rolling with Tavaris Jackson!
by AustonianAggie on Aug 9, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
From what I heard on Sirius
it’s more a matter of TJack being consistent (but not spectacular) and Sage looking really bad.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Q got a 30 on his wonderlic
Tarvaris got a 19. That’s Vince Young territory.
He’s as stupid as they get.
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Well maybe, but not real-life stupid like Q
Q smoked himself right out of a big paycheck and the fame and fortune of being the QB for America’s Team.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
not that I wish this on him but
Tarvaris is a love boat ride away from the Sioux City Stampede.
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WHAT????
Kitna has thrown for 30K yards,no matter the teams he played for,that is a lot!!! GO COWBOYS!!!
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by NVCowboy4Life on Aug 9, 2010 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
years and years ago
I guess since brad Johnson had lots of yards and a SB win, we should have kept him……
would not be surprised to see kitna cut before end of pre-season, but only if the boys see a young QB cut that they would like to groom for later
"My days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle"
At least we don't have Palmer's kid brother on the roster
Talk about horrible.
They should just cut him now and bring in someone from the street with a little experience.
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lol very true there.. i wasnt impressed at all with his play, then again , im hopin we make a number of qbs look that way this year )
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No, that was Jesse Palmer from the Giants I believe.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
whats the Bengals back up? Jordan Palmer?
some reason I’m thinking “New Kids on the Block” here
by AustonianAggie on Aug 9, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
The Cowboys D did come to play though.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Kitna is a detroit product in a Dallas uniform....
so in fact is RW for that matter. And that losing mentality needs to change.
I don’t see Kitna leading this team into the playoffs if something happens to Romo. He doesn’t have that quality in him. If Romo goes down, so do the Cowboys. It’s just that simple.
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
I think, this season, this team is much better than just where Romo can take them.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree, BUT
Who do you get instead?
That’s the question.
And why they need to draft QB in the mid/late rounds the next few years, unless McGee starts looking good.
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by Realist Larry on Aug 9, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
McGee is nothing more than a project player. You don’t see many of those leading teams into the playoffs. What this team needs to do in that area is put a priority on a quality backup and that means a good draft. You can’t always draft a HOF qb but you can find one that can take you further than most.
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
The team likes Kitna
And honestly, he looked fine, I thought. Way better than BJ back in 2008.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
Kitna looked decent to me last night
Hes still got game. Unlike Johnson, who was obviously done, heck he looked worse in his first training camp than Kitna has either one.
You’re not gonna find many backup qbs who can actually make plays. Kitna may be one.
Hmmm
You know Kitna actually played for two other teams before that right? So how is he a product?
That makes no sense.
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Kitna is a fighter!!!
Way better than BJ.
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by NVCowboy4Life on Aug 9, 2010 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions
but i dont think kitna will be the one who does move em into the playoffs tho
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Bummer guys
While I hate the Cowboys, I never like to see a good man go down. Hopefully he’ll make a full recovery and give us headaches next year.
It's "Kolb"ering time!
hows kolb lookin ay tc so far .. oldasquick ?
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He looks sharp, but so did Bobby Hoying a few years back! I’m reserving judgment until about week 6. I do think he’s an upgrade over McNabb, at least from what I’ve seen.
It's "Kolb"ering time!
i hate mcnabb but to say kolb is an upgrade is a big statement...
I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....
I was in Canton for the game last night...
John Phillips looked spectacular. We all saw what he did last year in his limited time and that was to produce. During the game last night he looked like Witten running those crisp routes and catching everything thrown to him. Even during warmups I had to turn to my Dad and talk about how awesome he was looking. Witten would run a route, catch a pass easily and Phillips would do just the same. They both made everything look easy. There was one play where it looked like Phillips missed a tight end screen and was caught blocking while Kitna threw at his back though. Still, he was impressive and will definately be missed.
Sicko on the other hand looked great too, but man does he look tiny. Not in terms of build, but he is definately several inches shorter than most TE’s and WR’s. He did make some nice catches and looked like a very solid player, though it came against some B-grade competition. Another plus is definitely his name. So awesome to hear the announcer say “and the reception by Sicko” and then listen to the crowd laugh hysterically that we had a TE named Sicko.
Also, awesome showing by our Cowboy fans!! The mayor of Canton declared Saturday as the official Dallas Cowboys day and we were definitely the home team at the game Sunday night. I would say it was 70% Cowboy fans. Funny to hear the announcer say “introducing the home team, the Cincinnati Bengals” to a stadium of boos. Excellent speech by Mr. Emmitt Smith as well. He is truly in a class of his own as a player and human being and it was certainly an honor I will never forget in watching his induction to the pro football hall of fame.
I read where some fans were scared Jerry Rice
going in the sametime as Emmitt might overshadow Emmitt. It turned out to be just the opposite.
Didnt expect Jerry to take such a back seat
As the greatest receiver of all time, perhaps football player in general, and known for his extreme work ethic I really expected both players to have excellent speeches and neither to outshine the other. Emmitt was absolutely more prepared and given that he was a Dallas Cowboy had way way more fans in attendance. It was clearly the Emmitt show all along. Rice did give a good speech, but you can tell that public speaking is not his specialty nor is it expected out of a football player. However, Emmitt was as awesome as he always is while Floyd Little, Dick LeBeau and Russ Grimm delivered excellent speeches as well.
Rice did not give a good speech
He sounded borderline illiterate.
Kudos to the NFL for not embarrassing an all-time great by making him not follow up Emmitt. Whoever made this decision should get a raise.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 9, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmm,
According to NFL.com, Sicko is 6’4. Phillips and Witten are both 6’5 and Bennett is 6’6, so he’s not that short, but he is shorter than our other guys. Brock is listed at 6’5, too.
by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 9, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I didnt know what he was listed at
but he definitely looked short out there. Especially when Phillips would come off the field and he would go in and when he would line up next to the linemen. When across from some of those big DE’s of Cincinnati, it looked like he would get manhandled but I think he did a good job. He was fast, had good hands, and got open so that is what matters.
May I remind you
that The Thing is also shorter than Mr. Fantastic and the Human Torch, but I’d rather have The Thing on my team.
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 9, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha
But what if it was at the WR position?
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I know a lot of folks on here are mentioning that Phillips was just the No. 3 TE
But he was turning into a darn good football player, and I always hate losing those. This team will miss his devotion to improving, and his physical skills. We need more players just like him. Wish we could find someone like Phillips for the O-line. Yes, we have great talent on offense, and will probably be just as prolific without him, but Phillips was one of our own, and I for one, will miss that guy. Get well, John.
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It's not that it doesn't matter...
Its just not a season killer.
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say.. was jerry rice sayin somthin when he exposed his sb ring on his middle finger loil?
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
What about the FG kicker situation?
I’m sure the coaches will give Beuhler every chance to earn the job, but if he’s not the man there will be a lot of FG kicker cut towards the end of training camps. Dallas needs an 80% kicker from 40 – 50 yards. They can’t afford to lose games because of a subpar FG kicker.
Injuries.....
are most part of the game. Basically 9-12 months of private gruelling which I hope is successful for Phillips.
I’d still trade Bennett for the top pick that was offered last year. Keep Sicko, Brock and perhaps the extra full-back who might fit in sets at TE.
Anyone else impressed with Jesse Holley?
I know I’ve kind of been rooting for this guy for a bit, because I like going for the underdogs, but he made a really impressive catch and another grab that went his way.
Plus, there was that monster hit he laid on Shipley on special teams. I’m hoping he can challenge Hurd for that last WR spot and he will if he keeps up the good work on ST.
I'm with you on following Holly since the Michael Irvin show win. But, does he block downfield as well as Hurd?
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I didn't see enough of his ST work...
But I noticed that monster hit he put on Shipley… I think I am going to get the video of the preseason games and see if I can get a play by play on Holley.
Nah it's a legit question, and I'm going to look into it.
Hurd vs Holley fanpost series coming soon.
If we're going with underdogs
I’d much rather see Terrell Hudgins somehow stick, even if it’s on the PS. I think he’s a guy that gets swooped up quickly if we try to stash him though. By the end of these preseason games I think more will agree.
Well, I'd be okay with that, too...
I just really don’t like the idea of Hurd taking a roster spot when there are younger players that might actually be able to step it up in the future.
He’s been consistently mediocre at WR, but is pretty darn good on special teams.
Brock?
What’s the word on his injury? He looks the part as well.
sprained ankle
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Hurd and Crayton....
should both be traded. Keep Holley, Hudgins or Johnson.
I like many of the younger wr on this team. If they can pick up 3-4 more picks next year and keep some of the younger players that would be best both for now and later.
Too early for those ideas. We have four more preseason games to play, and lots of training yet to go.
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I really want to see if Holley can keep it up on ST like he did against the Bengals, because if he can then I don’t see a need to keep Hurd.
If you want to have a chance at the Super Bowl
you will not touch Patrick Crayton.
Just what are you counting on Dez Bryant to provide?
Ha ha..
Did you see the timing he and Romo have?
Crayton isn’t going anywhere.
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 9, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
Any thoughts of Crayton not being on this team this season should be long evaporated by now.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
You would hope so anyways.
Still a surprising number of “fans” that want to see him gone though. He’s still a very good, reliable, possession receiver. Every team needs someone like that. And, he can fill in at Punt Returner and perform better than most. Plus, he can fill in at holder for kicks if needed. That could make things interesting as supposedly he has one of the strongest throwing arms on the team and he can run a lot better than McBriar can.LOL
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Smooth!!!!
That is the only thing you can say about Crayton,that man is smooth!!!
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by NVCowboy4Life on Aug 9, 2010 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Crayton delivers
I’ve always believed Crayton to be one of Romo’s go to guys on 3rd down. Can’t believe people are still wanting rid of him. He is worth much more to us than anything we would get in a trade.
Brock, high or low sprain?
any number of days/weeks discussed?
Apparently Phillips
Tore his ACL in High School and returned in 4 months….
How is that possible?
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partial tear?
some people have lived with torn ligaments for years, never needing to twist their legs, they never got it fixed
by AustonianAggie on Aug 9, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Bob Lilly liked "stretched" ligaments....
because they were harder to tear. In those days they always talked cartillage vs. ligaments. The rehab tech seems so much better today but the injuries more common. Turf, size and speed I’m sure are the factors and I’ve never seen a really good statistical sheet on this topic.
How many of these really happen from camp on? What is the 30-50 year trend line on these different knee issues?
careers last longer now, though I don’t have a body of evidence. Things like torn cartillige in your throwing shoulder ended many bright careers, very early on. Now days, they can heal those
by AustonianAggie on Aug 9, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm just channeling OCC or Aaron here, but...
Maybe he’s Wolverine in disguise?
When in doubt, empty your magazine
he probably
cut into his own knee and replaced the ligament with a piece of Strawberry Bubbilicious.
I could see that happening.
Giant cajones.
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Sorry, just heard and had to vent. I was wondering before the game how the Boys were going to be able to keep all these good young tight ends. Then the question was answered for me. I’ve been really impressed with Phillips. Hopefully, his recovery goes OK.
Regardless, we are going with Marty B. After watching Philips it is
really a shame we won’t have him for the year. Rehab fully John, and we’ll see you next year. I hope this is the year Bennett puts his whole game on the field. For all his obvious physical talents he has yet to corner the market, IMHO, on the number two TE position. It’s time for Bennett to do that, and time for Sicko to start thinking and performing like he’ll actually make the team. We’ve all been waiting for Bennett to be spectacular. It’s up to him to pull it off. I think he can and will.
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ACL
seems to be the most random of knee injuries, often it doesn’t seem that significant on viewing.
Then you see the body language and you know it’s not good.
You wonder if they have tried light supporting equipment if it might reduce these injuries. Regardless many times it seems a freakish type of event.
I’m not a doctor, and I didn’t sleep in any hotels… but I think ACL tears come from the leg twisting, not an unusual bend.
Some teams debate having rules requiring Offensive Linemen to wear braces, to protect them from players rolling behind them, but in some instances, the braces did nothing
by AustonianAggie on Aug 9, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you play one on TV perhaps?
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Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
ACL tears can happen
Through a hyperextension mechanism or where the foot stays planted and the femur (thigh) rotates and “pop” it
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
The only real way to stop some of the ACL tears
Are to make sure you have strong legs. Hamstrings and quad muscles along with proprioceptive balance training
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who was that that saved the Punt Return from being a TD?
that was a good play to stop an easy score, lots of speed and good angles
I believe that was Barry Church.
I know for certain that it was Mike Hamlin that had the big hit that knocked him out of bounds though.
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 9, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Correct
My pet cat
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
Really sucks to lose Phillips after how great he looked
He was looking like Witten JR out there. Just a reminder how quick fortunes can change in the NFL.
Hopefully Bennett can step up his game and start maximizing his potential.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
2nd Stinging Injury
You know you’re going to take injuries in camp, it’s just the nature of the game. But you want to minimize bad injuries.
In my opinion, this is the 2nd injury that really stings.
Dez Bryant losing the whole camp stung, that stings that he can’t get worked into the offense and hit his stride for the regular season.
John Phillips stings, he is so promising and creates so many matchup problems for defensive coordinators with him, Witten, and Marty B all going out in routes with a wide reciever over top. That loss really stings.
So far no crippling injuires. Nothing like Baltimore and Denver have had to face. But we’ve now had 2 stinging injuries with 4 games to go… this is not where we want to be as a team at this point.
Scott Sicko has a concussion.
So…yeah, maybe there is an issue. Brock and Sicko are both going to be out for at least a few weeks.
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I say we sit Witten for the rest of pre-season
Can’t be too careful with these TE’s
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
Hey Star, I've got a question
I though that Adam Jones was done?
This guy is done.
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and I thought that even though the Bengals signed him that didn’t mean anything …
The guy hasn’t done anything yet except sign with a team. I think your counting your chickens before they hatch. Probably should have waited until your BFF has actually played in a regular season game before shooting your "I told you so" load.
-APerfectStar
I’m really confused because that looked like Adam Jones out there playing with the Bengal’s first team defense. What gives? Is that just a headfake? The Bengals are probably going to cut him any day now, right?
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Aug 9, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I saw him
Roy beat him badly down in the end zone.
Did you have your Pacman Fever album cranked up during the game?
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
he got burned by RW
so he’s gonna get cut any day now like you said, right?
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Aug 9, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's still too early to gloat
But for a guy who made a fanpost for the purpose of showing everyone he was right and others were wrong, I guess I should have expected this.
I trust you will keep us updated on a regular basis about how Pac’s doing. The reports I’ve read so far say he’s doing well and should have the nickel CB spot locked up as long as he keep’s his nose clean (we’ll see). It’s too bad he couldn’t have done this while still a Cowboy.
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ROFLMAO!!!
Nicely played!!!!
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by squidlo97 on Aug 9, 2010 9:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
touche
my only fear is that a Dallas CB gets injured and Cletis has to play.
I remember 2007 when Newman and Henry were injured and Nate Jones was getting torched.
if Dallas has a couple CB injuries again we’ll all wish we had good CB depth.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Aug 10, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Everyone already wishes we had better depth at CB
But that has nothing to do with Pacman. He had a great opportunity to play for Dallas and he blew it. Repeatedly harping on your desire to see him back with the Cowboys isn’t going to change that.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
by APerfectStar on Aug 10, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
we can agree to disagree on that point
can I ask you a question. Doesn’t it bug you that Randy Moss was a natural fit for Dallas and everyone thought Dallas would draft Moss but they passed on him because of character issues?
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Aug 10, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
In hindsight
Sure, I wish they had selected him, not only would it have helped Dallas in ways we can only imagine, but it would have kept us from having to watch him destroy our defenses every time we played MIN. The flip side is there are plenty of guys who had character issues that ultimately kept them from being successful. Antonio Bryant comes to mind as a good example.
I’m glad that Jerry, Stephen, and Tom C have committed to going after the talented guys who are also team leaders and hard workers. It’s a good strategy for building a championship quality team.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
by APerfectStar on Aug 10, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah that bothers me...
but Randy Moss is one of if not the best WR of all time… Pacman isn’t one of the best CB’s of all time.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
considering that Pac is the first CB to get burned by Roy since God knows when, I don't think that is a good sign
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I find it funny that you are quoting someone that says...
Probably should have waited until your BFF has actually played in a regular season game.
And then you gloat about a preseason game. Preseason=Regular Season? I don’t think so.
I don’t really care one way or another, I just found that funny.
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Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
he shined in TC w/ Dallas also
but when the lights come on & he starts hitting the clubs. also his play went down as the year went on, i don’t think he’s their 1st or 2nd CB anyway so just give him a few games to show the real pacman. he’s been out of football to long & Shipley will probably win the punt returning job over him. i think he’s just insurance atm but i could be wrong & he could be a probowl calibur CB…
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by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Aug 12, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah it figures
This overheard after the game:
Garrett (pick one): Great game!
Sicko: Really?
Garrett: Yeah! Are you OK, Scott?
Sicko: Who’s Scott and why am I naked?
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you've got to be s***ing me
We lost 3 tight ends in one game?
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 9, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe we'll convert to the run and shoot and get rid of the TE altogether...
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Although disappointing for Phillips
because he does show a lot of potential, if losing your 3rd string TE to a season ending injury is the worse thing that happens this off season, we’ll be in great shape.
So long as the injury bug stays away from premier players, I’ll be happy.
In Romo we Trust
It sucks that Phillips went out but I completely agree with those on here arguing for Bennett as the better of the two.
The guy was an integral, and I mean integral, part of that 2-TE set. Just think about how the plan was for Fasano to be that #2 guy and how he never could make it work because of his lack of blocking. Bennett was the guy that finally provided the Cowboys the formation flexibility with his blocking and receiving acumen to create the lethal 2-TE packages we used all last year. Bennett catches a lot of heat for his videos and some of the drops last year but all in all I still can’t think of a TE tandem that I would rather have than Witten and Bennett. I hope Phillips comes back strong next year but this is a hurtle that can easily be overcome. As an additional note I hope Kevin Brock comes back soon from his ankle injury. He looks like an absolute beast when you see him up close. When I was at camp I had to look up his number because I couldn’t believe I didn’t recognize the guy who was so big and strong looking.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
Bennet can't be trusted
He may have all the talent in the world. But he was moved to #3 behind Phillips at the end of last year because he ran whatever route he wanted – not what the play called for.
He was never the #3 TE behind Phillips. Only in some people's minds on here was he #3.
Phillips caught that TD against because he was off the line just like a 3rd string TE would be. Bennett is still the better player. He is a better more dynamic receiver and is maybe one of the top five blocking TEs in the league. And if you really want to bring Phillips’s training camp into the discussion than I can bring in Bennett’s training camp from last year (maybe the most impressive camp performance by a Cowboys second stringer in the last ten years). Does Bennett have many quirks? He sure does but its amazing how some people can forget about how Bennett made many more plays than Phillips in their respective rookie years. Phillips is good in my opinion but let’s tone down on the hyperbole for a guy who has a career 62 yards receiving in the NFL.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
Amen.
Lot of hysteria on this website. I trust Raf’s opinion on this stuff more than anyone’s “feelings.”
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by DatNguyenNguyenScenario on Aug 9, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I think there is truth to both sides
Bennett is a far superior athlete. His upside is greater than Phillips’. He was the number 2 in terms of complementing Witten by blocking out of his mind. But… by the end of the season, the TE they called on in the playoffs, in the red zone to catch a pass from Romo on a roll-out was not Bennett. That’s not an accident either. Bennett lost the confidence of coaches and the QB to be in the right place at the right time as a receiver. It is now up to him to earn that back. Shoot, Kosier would be a better TE if he executed the play the way it was supposed to be and Bennett didn’t. He was fine in his rookie season because like all rookies in complicated positions, I’m sure they limited his responsibilities.
So… Bennett is the better talent, but if he doesn’t do what he needs to do to be on top of the mental aspects of the game, he’ll be passed by guys like Phillips and Sicko. I suspect that this is the year, one way or another.
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I tried to write a better way to say this
but I think ultimately that TD against Philly wasn’t as much about Phillips as it was just being a great misdirection design with the fake to Barber and keeping Witten and Bennett in on the left side to make sure Tony stayed upright. While I agree the team obviously trusted Phillips enough to be the sole option I don’t really see that as a clear sign that Bennett wasn’t trusted since even Witten was kept in to block.
Plus, the biggest factor that speaks to the Bennett versus Phillips debate is the fact that in that same Philly game it was Witten and Bennett who were the 2-TEs and not Witten and Phillips. If the disparity in trust really was that significant I find it doubtful they would have kept Bennett in the number two slot.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
But Bennett didn't get many looks at all at the end
in any situation. I’m not saying he’s a bust or can’t cut it. But they stopped putting him in a position to catch passes by the end of the year for a reason. I want him to overcome this in the worst way because he could make this offense unstoppable. But his head will have to take him there. And as Raf points out, a lot of guys take a couple of seasons to put it all together, so there’s no reason to panic just yet.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I agree with not panicking
but Bennett caught 3 balls for 27 yards in the Minnesota game. I just don’t really buy the fact that Romo and JG clearly didn’t trust him down the stretch. Did they trust others more? Yeah probably. Austin and Witten were playing at extremely high levels. At the same time though I think Bennett was going to get the ball even if he got open like he did in Minnesota.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 10, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with Dunk's point
Down the stretch last season, Bennett and Roy were phased out of the plans in favor of Ogletree and Phillips, and I don’t think it was a case of trying to trick defenses, it was about who the coaches trusted more to make plays.
John Garrett himself said, when asked about Bennett’s regression last season, that Bennett’s lack of confidence more than anything was why he struggled. I think Dunk hit on the reason why his confidence was lacking. As a rookie , he had less expected of him and less responsibility. As a 2nd year player, he was asked to do more and take on more responsibility. Jason Garrett’s system requires the TE’s to do a lot, second only to QB as far as difficulty. It wouldn’t be surprising that Bennett would struggle with it, especially coming from the simplified system at A&M. He might not have been ready to take that next step last season (plus he did suffer thru some injuries that could have hindered him). This season he has to show he can handle everything, or else he might just not be a fit in Dallas’ system. Phillips however, looks like a definite fit, and I expect he and Witten can lock up the top 2 spots at TE if MartyB can’t handle it.
Not bagging on Bennett, just my take on why he was disappointing last season, and why he might be much better this season.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
by APerfectStar on Aug 10, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't speak to Bennett's mindset
but I think there is no question he is a fit for Dallas’s system. They drafted him to essentially create the 2-TE monster we used last year since even a good TE like Anthony Fasano didn’t have the blocking and receiving acumen to pull off that role. And don’t get me wrong, I like Phillips a lot, but the guy is just not the blocker that Marty B is. Bennett has 12 pounds on the guy and was hands down a top 5 blocking TE last year. Did he look a little more lost in the passing game? Yes he did. But he still had 3 catches against Minnesota in the final game of the year and I think that alone kind of pokes holes in this “Bennett didn’t have Tony’s trust” theory.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 10, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Bennett is better athleticly
but its a stretch to say he’s the better player. if you want to compare it like that then you could say Bennett is better then Witten. dont let athletic ability fool you over the total package. in his 2nd year RoMo was still having to call timeouts to get him in position or pointing to tell him where to go. i haven’t see many mistakes out of Phillips & he’s been clutch whenever his number was called. bennett has this year to prove himself & hopefully he gets the job done. if not then we’ll make a better decision next draft
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by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Aug 12, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Just saw on the NFL network ticker
say something to the effect that Dez is ahead of his 3-4 week projection of time to be missed. Did I miss something? Was it not 4-6 weeks, if so that is pretty amazing.
well one week ago it was 4-6 weeks, maybe now its 3-5?
by AustonianAggie on Aug 9, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
No Official Word
Bryant will go in next week to get the boot taken off. At that point they should be able to take a look at it and see how much longer they need to hold him out.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 9, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
well ...you know the media.... never camn tell of the validity of the story.....
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Guys This is Just a Wild Thought
but Matt Jones looked pretty good last night.He is about 6’ 6" and could be made into a TE.
He has also been one of JJ’s pet cats.I don’t know what Antnio Bryant’s status is but it looks like Shipley just made the team last night and Cosby is also one of thier return men so if they just keep 5 WRs Jones could be cut loose.
I don’t know how well he can block but I always thought blocking was a matter of desire not physicality.
I hate to say this but
Matt Jones may be the only guy who is not only a better athlete than Marty B, he is also even dumber.
Matt Jones is 6'6" 222lbs
And people say Scott Sicko(6’4" 255) isn’t built up enough to be a blocker yet.LOL
Desire is great…but you still need an anchor and strength to block and get a push. And that’s assuming Matt Jones would even have the desire to become a TE.
Terrell Hudgens (6’2", 225) has a better chance of converting to TE than Matt Jones IMHO.
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That's not a bad thought
Hudgins being used as a part time TE. I’m sure his blocking would need a lot of work, but Shannon Sharpe started out as a WR who converted to TE. Interesting idea to keep in mind since Dallas is overstocked at WR.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
by APerfectStar on Aug 10, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
He's already shown a knack...
for making plays and reliable hands. His relative lack of speed would be hidden more as a TE. He’s already stockier than most WR’s, although I hear he’s cut down quite a bit of weight. If so, he’s used to playing at a higher weight so he could go back up again without too much difficulty.
But again, just like with Matt Jones, is there the desire/willingness to switch positions and all that entails? It might be worth a look if it gets to that point.
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How has Matt Jones been one of Jerry Jones pet cats?
Did I miss when he played for the Dallas Cowboys?
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Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
That myth is up there with "Jerry Jones loves to draft Razorbacks" and "Jerry Jones loves to draft big name players."
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 10, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Just one thing to say: @#$%$#@! Well, two things to say: may this be the last serious
injury of the season. Rubbing rabbit’s foot
Who knew?
That Phillips catching an easy TD wide open in the end zone was so much more impressive than Bennett’s circus catch of a game-winning TD pass back in ‘08 against the ’Skins? Personally I thought the latter was more impressive but what do I know since I don’t follow Martellus on his Twatter or YouTube channels?
It’s madness to root against Martellus. Do you really want it to ultimately turn out that the Cowboys burned two 2nd rounders on the same position that they could’ve just as easily filled with a late-round guy like Phillips?
At this stage of post-trails, it's hard to tell who you'e mad at Mick
But no one is saying Phillips’ catch was impressive. And I don’t think most people would say that Phillips is or will ever be as athletically gifted as Bennett. The point about Phillips making the catch is that the coaching staff had more confidence in a rookie TE than Bennett. That means Bennett wasn’t the receiver he needed to be. Since it’s clearly not his ability, all that’s left is his football knowledge.
I don’t root against any Dallas players. Hopefully he’ll improve that aspect of the game and realize his potential instead of wondering whatever happened to Tellus?.
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That's not good not they trusted a rookie more than Bennett down the stretch last season.
No argument there. And certainly the majority want to see Bennett realize his potential but as hasty as some folks are being it’s clear they just have a plaind hate-on for Bennett, whether it be his eccentricities or mental snafus on his routes and actively want to see Phillips permanently knock him down the depth chart; the sooner the better.
Personally, I’m a full-on Sickofant and think that in an ideal scenario Bennett would show enough this season to be flipped for a low 1st or high 2nd round pick; (crack)pipedream I know. That would be an easy deal to make with guys like Phillips and Sicko in the cupboard.
I think before Bennett figures it all out he will be an ex-Cowboy..
Phillips just seems to be a better option as the #2 TE over Bennett. Just too bad Phillips is out for the year because I think we would’ve beat out Bennett over the course of the season. Jerry not trading Bennett to Cinci for a second round pick was a big mistake looking at it now….Im pulling for Bennett, but at this point he is a bust of a second round pick. Hopefully, he can put it together and prove alot of us wrong..
My first choice is for Bennett to come around and make Dallas have to really think about
what to do with the young man. But if not, Dallas sure seems to have a knack for finding young TEs out there…
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
dont be a hater!
i dont think people are rooting against bennett, its just that when you take a guy in the 2nd rd you expect more & after seeing Hard Knocks i don’t think they were far off from what type of person he is.
to find a gem like Phillips in the 2nd rd just goes to show bennett wasn’t worth the 2nd rd pick & hopefully Jerry learned a lesson. their was a ton of bad knocks on Bennett coming out of college & they chose to ignore them thinking they could turn him around bu so far they haven’t.
also, even if it was a joke i had a family member die in 9/11 & i lost a lot of respect for him after that video. until he proves he’s not a pos & waste of a draft pick i have every right to write it like i see it. so far he was drafted way to early & was out played by a rookie 6th rd draft pick last year. i almost bet Bennett thinks this takes pressure off him bc he don’t have to fight for the #2 TE spot but in reality its putting his career on the line. i hope he does well but most of all i hope he grows up more then anything. i bet it wouldn’t have been funny if one of his family members jumped from a burning building bc the flames were worse then the fear of hitting the ground when they jumped multiple stories
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by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Aug 12, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
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