Pre-Season: First Team Performances In The NFC East
We all know that pre-season performance isn't any indicator of regular season performance. With the way the pre-season has gone for the Cowboys so far, we've heard all about the 2008 Lions, the Colts of the last five years, the 49ers of the nineties and a host of other teams with pre-season results that did not match their regular season results.
However, at the very least, the performance in the games so far provides an indication of what the teams need to work on over the coming weeks until the regular season kicks off. In part, the pre-season is what it is because teams are knocking off the rust on their starters, playing mostly vanilla schemes, and using the games to test out the 2nd and 3rd stringers. So looking at W-L columns and general stats is largely meaningless.
BUT: Teams do play their 1st teams for some parts of the pre-season. Over the course of the pre-season games so far, enough data has accumulated to make looking at how the first teams performed worth it, and may provide some interesting food for thought. After the break, I'll look at the performance of only the starters/first teams over the pre-season so far for the four NFC East teams.
Disclaimer: In the NFL, past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results. This is particularly true as we look at pre-season results, but is equally true for most other stats, historical trends and any other observed data points. The stats we use to look at the NFL are suited to explain and perhaps better understand past performance to varying degrees, but for the most part, they are completely unsuited to predict future results. Ok, with that out of the way, let's focus on some pre-season stats.
Quarterbacks: Let's start with the QBs. Statistically, the starting QBs are the easiest to assess. All starting QBs in the NFC East are undisputed this year, and their performance is easily tracked:
STARTING QB pre-season passer rating, NFC East, 2010
| 2010 pre-season |
2009 |
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| QB |
CMP |
ATT |
YDS |
CMP% | YPA |
TD |
INT |
RATING | Pre- season | Regular Season |
| Donovan McNabb |
16 | 34 | 264 | 47.1 | 7.8 | 1 | 1 | 71.2 | 85.7 | 92.9 |
| Tony Romo |
26 | 46 | 287 | 56.5 | 6.2 | 1 | 2 | 64.3 | 90.1 | 97.6 |
| Kevin Kolb | 28 | 53 | 324 | 52.8 | 6.1 | 0 | 1 | 63.7 | 90.5* | 88.9* |
| Eli Manning | 13 | 26 | 140 | 50.0 | 5.4 | 0 | 1 | 50.2 | 66.3 | 93.1 |
In terms of passer rating, none of the NFC East QBs have delivered a particularly noteworthy performance this pre-season. In fact, it would be fair to say that all four have struggled so far. Shockingly, all four NFC East QBs have a lower passer rating than Tim Tebow (77.6). Maybe not quite as shocking, but at least a little disconcerting is to see who's at the top of the QB leaderboard this pre-season: Aaron Rodgers has racked up a 141.2 rating on 53 pass attempts, Tom Brady is a close second with a 140.6 rating on 42 pass attempts.
But if you look at Eli Manning's numbers from last season, perhaps there is hope yet: Eli had arguably his best season as an NFL quarterback last year despite coming in with a 66.3 passer rating in the pre-season. The other three had numbers with a lot smaller swing between the pre-season and the regular season (*Kolb's 2009 data is from only one pre-season game and a little over two regular season games).
First team performance
Just like we can look at the starting QB numbers, we can also isolate the team performance on drives when most or all of the first-team units were on the field. To do this, I went through the play-by-plays for all the games and tried to figure out which drives still had the first units on the field and which didn't. I believe I got the numbers right, but it's not always perfectly clear from the play-by-plays which unit, particularly on defense, was on the field.
I looked at number of drives and points scored or points allowed during those drives. With that data I calculated what I'll call Equivalent Points per Game: The average number of drives per game is about 12 in the NFL. Multiplying the points per drive by 12 gives an indication of how many points the teams would have theoretically scored or allowed with their pre-season performance over four full quarters in one game.
First team DEFENSE pre-season performances by drive, NFC East
| Team |
Drives |
Points allowed |
Points allowed per drive |
Equivalent Points allowed per Game |
| Eagles | 18 | 14 | 0.8 | 9.6 |
| Redskins | 15 | 21 | 1.4 | 16.8 |
| Cowboys |
15 | 30 | 2.0 | 24.0 |
| Giants |
15 | 40 | 2.7 | 32.4 |
I'll be the first to point out that projecting individual drives to a full game (like you would with baseball's ERA for example) is tricky at best. There are many factors that can and do change the game situation from play to play, particularly in the pre-season. Yet the numbers do provide a glimpse of how the first team defenses have performed as a unit. And if nothing else, the numbers are an indication that the Cowboys and Giants still have work to do, and that the Redskins and Eagles would do well not to grow complacent with their pre-season performance on defense.
Obviously, you could always argue that the pre-season opponents also played a big role in these numbers. Were they playing vanilla schemes, how much did they want a pre-season win, etc. - we've been through all these arguments already - but at the end of the day, as the Cowboys defensive coordinator, you can't really be happy about these numbers.
Now the same exercise for the Offense.
First team OFFENSE pre-season performances by drive, NFC East
| Team |
Drives |
Points scored |
Points scored per drive |
Equivalent Points scored per Game |
| Eagles | 19 | 25 | 1.3 | 15.6 |
| Giants | 17 | 20 | 1.2 | 14.4 |
| Redskins |
15 | 16 | 1.1 | 13.2 |
| Cowboys |
13 | 13 | 1.0 | 12.0 |
This table does not look like it contains any of the teams formerly known as the offensive powerhouses of the NFC East. Right now it looks more like a Confederacy of Dunces division. The offensive showing of the four East teams is just as awful as that of their quarterbacks this year.
All four teams clearly have a lot of homework left to do, and I'm sure that every single team is taking a long, hard look at what they each need to do to fix their offenses. But rest assured, not a single one of the NFC opponents for the first couple of weeks is leaning back back right now and thinking "The Cowboys/Giants/Eagles/Redskins? Don't worry about them. Piece of cake."
Our opponents know that August numbers don't mean anything come week one. The August stats are completely useless in predicting how the season will unfold, particularly since they do not reflect one cold, hard truth: The most successful teams at the end of the season will be those that have found ways to continuously improve - and then improve some more - as the season progresses. Much to my dismay, I don't have any stats that can predict that.
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once again you deliver OCC
awesome post, very grok-able
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by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Sep 1, 2010 2:43 AM CDT reply actions
Excellent!
Looking at those numbers, it’s fairly clear that the Cowboys hardly suck any worse than anyone else in the East, and as you suggest, OCC, there’s nowhere to go but up!
Don’t worry about figuring how to predict which teams will improve the most. We’ll just watch the season. : )
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are finding a little solace in the fact that none of our opponents looked great
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Pre Season Rankings?
I guess but what a waist of time. It is laughable that people are so into stats in games that mean nothing. What is next , ranking training camp?
You say it's a waste of time.
Yet there are a number of fans (and media members) who are near to panic in the streets over the recent performance of the Cowboys in the preseason. This was an exercise to see how the Cowboys have done, relatively, to the other teams in the division. It’s just a matter of saying “Hey…it’s not the doom machine you thought it was.”
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by Brandon Worley on Sep 1, 2010 7:27 AM CDT up reply actions
People seem pretty concerned about cowboys stats
Points scored by offense, qb rating, sacks. Everyone is talking about it from ESPN to us humble BTBers.
OCC is just giving them context in the division
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 1, 2010 8:32 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Bevo, I'd rather discuss the regular season too, except ... well... we're not there yet :)
In the mean time, different perspectives on how the team has performed in recent weeks is all we’ve got. You decry it as “laughable” that people are so into stats … well … here’s your own comment:
I especially love the statistical posts. One of the most recent one that blew me away was the one on sacks. Watching the game against the Chargers last night I kept saying to friends we just need a sack and it will be fine. I got that from you guys.
-bevo’s quote
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Fantastic stuff as always
As worried as I am about the Cowboys going into the regular season, I’m enjoying reading about them tremendously on BTB.
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by Lord Humungus on Sep 1, 2010 8:55 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
It's been a bad pre-season for the NFC East
What bearing that has on the regular season, you decide.
But I think at the end of the day you have to conclude this has not been a good pre-season for the East as a whole.
When McNabb with a new team, in a new system, with a reconstituted O-line, and essentailly no recievers has the best stats – something is wrong with the offenses in this division.
Let’s hope we can right our ship before the other teams can and gain a quick lead on the division.
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I’m not too worried about what the Cowboys or any teams are doing in the preseason, other than staying healthy. We’ll see what happens when it counts.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 1, 2010 10:27 AM CDT reply actions
LOL ... true! I'm in the states now, but when overseas, I always luv OCCs timing :)
Money quote: “see what happens when it counts”
One of my theories on why the Colts don’t do well in the preseason (or the 49ers of the nineties) is that the team – as well as individuals – have their eye more on the ultimate goal than on the game results. It’s what causes Houston to look so good last weekend: they’re more concerned with immediate performance than working on specific parts of their game… while the Cowboys were thinking long-term.
For example, Wade’s insistence on playing 6 DBs for an entire drive was obviously an experiment to see how this D would perform … as well as a way to look at individuals in that situation. The goal was not to WIN that drive, but to prepare for the regular season. Another example would be on the offensive line, where Gurode looks to be trying more of his “finesse” type moves now. When the games count, he hopefully can incorporate some of that practice, but I expect to see him also rely more on his strengths – that of power-blocking.
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Hahaha - I have nothing to do with the timing of these posts
I submit them to Dave and he schedules them for whenever he sees fit. Some of my posts languish for days before being posted, others go live within a few minutes, and I’ve even had a couple that never saw the light of day.
I used to wonder why Raf and Dave would post in the middle of the night, now I know. It’s simply to give everybody on the blog something new to read when you log on in the morning.
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 1, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sticking with my version of the story ... it's more interesting :)
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I’ve even had a couple that never saw the light of day.
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good stuff Lars.
It’s kind of funny, if you think about our preseason so far, in the last two games the big pieces that we thought were missing showed up, but then the rest of the game went missing lol.
Among the biggest questions this team faced to improve from last season:
- red zone offense
- takeaways on defense
- Roy’s play
The first two games, we saw the same thing as last year, good drives without reaching the end zone, not a bunch of takeaways, up and down Roy.
Then against the Chargers, success finally came in red zone scoring set up by a takeaway (thanks to Rivers’ tackle), one of four in the game.
And against the Texans, Roy looked good. Not perfect, and still communication/timing issues, but he got open, Romo found him and he made some nice plays, even when most everything else was a mess.
So in those two games, it was like Cowboys in Wonderland, the inverted reality parallel universe version of the Dallas Cowboys, where we can have our wish granted to have those problems solved only to have everything else fall apart.
Ah but preseason is but a dream…. we awake to the reality of NFL Football a week from Sunday, and see if they can put the all the pieces together into the team we believe they can be.
The last few weeks, I have uttered nonsense
because I can’t wait for the real thing to get here. I can’t wait.
It does help to be able to read great posts like this to help me pass the time and interact in a constructive outlet with people who share my love for the best foorball team on earth!
Great Post OCC
once again, you make me think there is hope for Cowboys fans…LOL…
I’m linking to this from BGN in a fanshot b/c we are continuously hashing out the preseason as well, though no one has put together anything this in depth.
I think we’d appreciate it if you wouldn’t mind posting this over there yourself so we at least have some real data to talk about rather than just feelings
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If you want to use the data, go right ahead.
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 2, 2010 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions
This is a great post!
Over at BGN we thought our preseason was terrible! And it was. It’s funny to see that of the four teams ours was actually the best.
On a side note, if our starting D really is as good as it’s looked then Kolb and the O really can get away with struggling a little bit, as long as they protect the football.
I expect another tight division race this year, though hopefully with an ending more like 2008 than 2009.
Good post
It was nice reading this post. I’m sure it took you a lot of time getting all of your information. Like above, over at BGN we’ve talked a lot about the preseason and the numbers that go along with it.
Again good work OCC and good read!
Wow...
Ugly.
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by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 2, 2010 12:21 PM CDT reply actions
I wish we played earlier in the damn year
I hate the people who make the schedules
UDDDDAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Would you guys from BGN quit talking up OCC?
Somebody out there is liable to figure out what a treasure he is and offer him real money to go somewhere else.
Seriously, OCC is perhaps the biggest single draw on this site, and we really love his work.
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