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2010: The Season of  ________

 

Each year, prior to the start of the season, I write a post about the central figure in the Cowboys’ Season. It’s not always the player or coach who I believe will have the biggest impact on the team’s fortunes during the season. It’s not always the most notable figure or the one with the most PR. It’s generally about the person, group or thing that I would look to, once the NFL season is over, to help me characterize the year in a more comprehensive and Zen-like manner. Just to put it in the proper context, one day, when I tell my grandkids the story of 2010 for my beloved Cowboys, who or what will the story revolve around?

 

In 2007, I suggested the year would revolve around Tony Romo. I believed that the emergence of a successor to Troy Aikman would be more important to the team than anything else on the “radar” screen in terms of the team’s development and hopes for a successful season (and long-term future). True to form, Romo had a prolific season and despite the bitter end against the eventual Super Bowl Champion Giants in the playoffs, Romo had taken a major step forward and made fans (some like Montecito Tex may still not be there) believe he could be the franchise QB this team had been sorely lacking for so long. It really was The Season of Romo.

 

In 2008, in an almost prescient moment, I suggested it was the Season of Wade. I felt strongly that an inflection point for this team had been reached and that the primary question was whether or not Wade Phillips had a strong enough hold on his team’s volatile personalities (T.O., Pacman Jones, Tank Johnson, etc.) to extract the kind of season the team was capable of given the record number of pro bowl players from the prior season. Unfortunately, in the end and as we all know too well, those personalities were too much for Wade to overcome and the team’s locker room issues made for better TV than its performance on the field.

 

In 2009, the team had a new home and a new look, with a much greater regard for team chemistry, and its biggest question mark revolved around the offensive line. One man had the responsibility of rebuilding the line and the team’s confidence in that group. Truly, it was the Season of Hudson Houck. For 17 games, he (and they) did a more-than-respectable job. Unfortunately, injuries and some strange moves (i.e. rushing back Colombo when Doug Free had been playing quite well in his absence) and strange play calling in the playoffs ultimately proved to be Dallas’ undoing in another, ugly, season-ending loss. In retrospect, I could also have called 2009 The Season of Character, since it was Dallas’ unity and commitment to the team goal that propelled it to its first playoff win in over a decade despite some significant adversity. Clearly, it was the team's character that had changed, even if the way their season ended had not.

 

And so here we are. On the precipice of the 2010 season and I am once again faced with a difficult task. As always, there are a lot of things that it COULD be the Season of;

 

The O-line? Is there any unit on this team with more hanging over its head than this one? The meltdown in Minnesota, the jettisoning of longtime stalwart Flozell Adams, the injury concerns and the fact that this group, aside from Doug Free, is all on the wrong side of 30. You could make an argument that, in Dallas anyway, every year is the year of the O-line until they get it fixed, right? But I couldn’t bring myself to call this their year simply because I think they are going to be okay. Somehow, some way, they are going to get the job done (if you ask me how, I may not be able to answer). They’re younger and more athletic at LT and older and more brittle everywhere else. They won’t dominate, but they won’t play like scrubs either. Assuming I am not way off base, they’re not the story of 2010.

 

The Safeties? It looks like the better teams in this league tend to get elite-level performances from their safeties on their way to deep playoff runs toward the bling. Dallas has had a tough time getting that kind of play in the deep half from its safeties for quite a while now. Personally, I miss Brock Marion. Did you EVER see him get beaten deep? Sigh…Starters Alan Ball and Gerald Sensabaugh (injury notwithstanding) are not considered future HOF’ers by any stretch of the imagination and the pundits continue to point their fingers at this group when asked about the Cowboys’ weaknesses. At the same time, I think Ball (or Mike Hamlin, who’s a personal fave of mine) and Sensei will be more of a product of the front 7’s play than anything else. I’ve said this before and I will say it again, NO safety can cover an NFL skill player for 5 seconds, all things being equal. Our guys won’t make anyone forget Waters and Harris, but they can get it done, especially if Spencer can continue to develop and provide a bookend rusher for Ware. So, it’s a no-go to the ‘Year of the Safety’.

 

The RB’s? It’s clear to me that our QB has heeded my words about protecting the football since last year’s first game against the Giants. My continued “wax on, wax off” cajoling of him has finally paid dividends and Romo is more a known quantity (assuming he gets time to throw) than in the past. But can he become elite without a complementary running game that forces teams to respect it? Clearly, Dallas has not been able to put pressure on opposing defenses without throwing the football. The Cowboys’ absence of a ground game that can take over any given contest could be written off as more a result of poor play up front on the line than the backs themselves, but nonetheless, it’s been a while since Dallas forced opposing defensive coordinators to respect the run above all else. Also, since we’re calling balls and strikes here, doesn’t Felix Jones have a lot to prove this year given what we’ve seen from Chris Johnson and Reshard Mendenhall? Of the three backs, right now, he looks to be the one that should have gone 3rd in that group. Still, Dallas (and Felix) could run the ball more effectively this season than last and it wouldn’t tell the tale. Not this year.

 

I thought of other options too; Romo, Spencer, Buehler, Free, Redball and even the trainers/team doctors (think about it…injuries man…injuries!) but none fit the bill.

 

As I said, this season, because of some events surrounding it, is markedly different than any other year. But why? We know the Super Bowl is being played in our big, bold, beautiful new house. The team’s locker room leadership and emotional makeup has been largely remade since that 2007 season that brought all of the fireworks, the #1 playoff seeding and all the hullaballoo that surrounded it. The team has a lot of talent on its roster and many of the impact Free Agents and draft picks are the ones the team made since Bill Parcells left town.  The locker room chemistry has more marquee value than possibly ever before. The coaching staff (with the OC having more seniority than the HC/DC…yes, it still makes me snarky, okay?!?) is the one the front office has hitched its wagon to. But what is it about 2010 that is so unique?

 

I kept asking myself the same question; why is THIS season is so different than any other. I realized it may be less tangible than I was comfortable with. So then I asked myself what FEELS so different about 2010? And then the emotions came rushing in. For the first time ever, I felt like the Cowboys’ on-field performance might be the “co-star” instead of the true leading man in this season’s documentary when they finally see fit to make it.

 

Our owner, regardless of how his team fares, gets to host the Super Bowl.

 

Our NFL man is a key cog, if not THE key cog in the CBA negotiations.

 

Our GM has risked it all on a questionable O-line and the league’s best cast of skill players.

 

Our marketing genius engineered a “multi-state” training camp with more fanfare than the Detroit Lions’ entire season could ever muster up.

 

Our billionaire is going to make a mint this year regardless of anything that happens to our owner, NFL man, GM or marketer.    

 

Of course!!!

 

How could I have missed it?

 

Yes…it suddenly became obvious to me that 2010 could be nothing other than THE SEASON OF JERRY. This is Jerry’s year, more so than in any year prior. HE is not playing second fiddle to some name-brand head coach whose glory years are long gone by. HE hired the coaching staff and made changes at Special Teams and Defensive Coordinator. HE is not playing with Jimmy Johnson’s roster desperately trying to hold on to past glory. HE picked the players HE wanted (Spencer, Felix, Jenkins, Roy Williams, Dez, etc.) to go into battle with. HE got roster depth in places HE chose. HE cut ties with those bad apples in the locker room. HE made the decision not to buckle to popular opinion and pursue highly touted O-linemen or Safeties, instead drafting and trading for LB’s and WR’s that HE wanted. HE built the palatial home for the continent’s most valuable sports property and to host the grandest of events. HE has already said that if he wins a 4th bling, it’s the only one he would wear in public. HE is the one who has things the way HE wants them to be for the upcoming season and HE is the one who is totally and completely “all in” for 2010.

 

As a result, it’s time to prepare ourselves for one of two outcomes. If Dallas doesn’t have a good showing this season and falls on its face, Jerry will take the lion’s share of the blame in the press, to a greater degree than in the past, as he won’t have other big personalities (i.e. Tuna) to pin it on. They’ll say he blundered by keeping Wade, or not hiring a DC, or not drafting O-linemen or any of the myriad of other things that might be linked through him to that failure. BUT…if Dallas goes on to win the Super Bowl and bring home the bling, he’ll finally get the monkey off of his back for letting Jimmy Johnson walk away. He’ll be forgiven for Shante Carver and Dwayne Goodrich and Quinthy Carther and…dare I say his name like Lord Voldemort…T.O.! He’ll finally get the credit as a GM and an owner and a football man because, frankly, he’s been ridiculed by the pundits and tons of BTB’ers (yes, me too) for so much for so long. Jerry will be 68 years old when the season starts. One has to wonder how many of these round-up’s he has left, or rather, how many he has with a reasonable chance of coming away with a bling. As 2010 pertains to Jerry Jones, in the words of Michael Jackson (and Kenny Loggins), “This is it!”

 

 

My fellow Cowboys fans, welcome to The Season of Jerry.

 

 

GO COWBOYS!   



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Iron Fist

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by Iron Fist on Sep 1, 2010 11:18 AM CDT reply actions  

Seriously though...

I hope 2010 is the season of firsts

The first team to win a Super Bowl in their own stadium.

The first team in a while to win the East back to back

And the first step in the run to a second dynasty.

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by Iron Fist on Sep 1, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't every season the season of Iron Fist?

;-)

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 1, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's true.

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by Iron Fist on Sep 1, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

2010: The Season of

Disappointment

Is playing smart too much to ask?

by silverblue5 on Sep 1, 2010 11:26 AM CDT reply actions  

1989: Season of the Return to Glory

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 1, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

man, i soooooo hope you're right

but with our shaky, injured, unproven O-line, i’m seeing things half empty.

Is playing smart too much to ask?

by silverblue5 on Sep 1, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

...and people knowing what a fanpost is verus a fanshot, right?

:-)

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 1, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would be nice

The new mantra: No more injuries. No more injuries. Everybody now: NO MORE INJURIES!

by Tom Ryle on Sep 1, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with the Jerry pick.

This year has a very Jerry feel to it with the expectations, the showy atmosphere, and the addition of a lightning rod like Dez Bryant (who I am behind 120%). In fairness though, minus the Super Bowl in Dallas factor, 2008 felt most like a Jerry year just because of the roster decisions that were risky yet came with the possibility with high reward as well as Hard Knocks.

The positive factor for this year is that I think the team seems to have a much more business outlook than in 2008 and they don’t seem to think that the Super Bowl will be gift-wrapped to them. I am sure others will counter with the fact that we have played so poorly this preseason and that that must be a sign of an undisciplined, distracted team, but I disagree based off what the team is saying and the fact that our team, in my opinion, has a much better locker room than they did in 2008 . The Houston game was terrible but it was a game that ultimately was set-up to be a letdown for the team (preseason game right before going home against a team we are playing early in the year).

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 1, 2010 11:41 AM CDT reply actions  

You put that Dez thing out there just for Terry, didn't you?

:-)

I know you soooo well.

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 1, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah the lightning rod reference was definitely alluding to those fun debates.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 1, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dez's impact on 2010 is such an unknown...

he is clearly our most physically gifted WR (sorry Miles). He has proven he could do it at the big time collegiate level.

But how many rookie WR’s have the kind of impact that a Percy Harvin had last season?

I could say Michael Crabtree had a similar impact, but he was a starter the day he signed his stupid contract. Dez will start out #3 at best, maybe #4.

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 1, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree.

I think we would also have a much more solid idea of what to expect if he had actually played in the preseason. Still though, with his talent and catching ability I am optimistic about his chances to provide an impact.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 2, 2010 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

He has great hands

…but so does Crayton. The thing Crayton has, that Dez doesn’t, is chemistry with Romo.

Hard to believe he will unseat Crayton (much less RW) soon without a ton of reps.

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I actually disagree on that point (surprise surprise haha).

Romo and Dez by all accounts out of training camp were clicking before Dez’s ankle got sprained. In fact, there were several reports that Dez was performing as maybe the best WR there period. They may not click quite as well as Romo and Crayton but I think Dez’s pure talent and athleticism will definitely have him beat out Crayton for that #3 spot the second he is okayed to play in a game (remember though that Dez will play outside and Miles will go into the slot when those two and RW are on the field).

Furthermore, I think through your post you incorrectly imply that chemistry is something that has to be built up and therefore requires time and a lot of practice to perfect. In my opinion, chemistry forms much more instantaneously and can be a flip-the-switch transformation. As an example I would point to Miles Austin last year. In the Denver game him and Romo seemed to be off the entire game and it ended up even leading to an INT as Austin and Romo miscommunicated. In fact, many on this board were quite disappointed with Miles and I seem to recall many wondering out loud how he had beat out Sam for that #3 spot after that game. The next week they played KC and of course the rest is history as Romo and Miles finally seemed to turn on to the right page and remained on that page for the rest of the season. In the course of a week the Romo-Miles connection had done a complete 180. I am obviously not saying all chemistry is so easy to create but a good way to think of it is the fact that the word we use to describe a QB-WR relationship (i.e ‘chemistry’) is alluding to a section of science that is in many cases known for its many instantaneous reactions (who doesn’t love to see some alkali metals thrown in water?). In summary, I don’t necessarily believe that time is so crucial for chemistry (e.g. Farve and Harvin, McNabb and Jackson).

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 2, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay notw you're just making crazy talk...

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because it isn't a switch like you think it is!

Sorry, the bank was open. I had to make a deposit. :-)

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

hold on

How many training camps had Miles been in prior to the breakout season?

How much coaching and development was sped up by T.O.’s advice and counsel on how to be where Romo needed him to be?

I don’t think you can agree with me that most rookie WR’s, regardless of their talent level, have largely secondary impacts on their team and still disagree with me about Dez.

Let’s also try to hone in on this a bit more. There’s nothing that says Dez couldn’t be an exception to the rule (like those two you pointed out) and have an instant impact, but that would still be, invariably, an exception to the rule.

The fact is that he hasn’t played a ton of football in a while, he hasn’t had many reps with the QB and he probably doesn’t know the nuances of the playbook enough to have JG put him on the field much. Those things suggest that the kind of impact you’re talking about are even less likely to occur.

Not impossible, but not likely either.

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

The key that you are missing with Miles is that despite all of those training camps and teaching sessions, the week before his breakout he was still being maligned for essentially not being on the same page as Romo. So clearly, the point still stands that a gap like that can be bridged quickly. Now, you can surely make a cohesive argument that Dez’s gap right now is substantially more than Miles’ was after the Denver game. However, by the same token, Dez is a top talent whereas I can still remember the days when people were still discussing if Miles could catch the ball cleanly consistently. So overall, when comparing the two, I think it is wholly fair to assume that Dez and Romo could, note could, make a leap like Miles and Romo did last year (or for that matter Harvin and Favre did last year).

Also to be clear, above I was agreeing to the fact that Dez’s impact is an unknown simply based off the fact that we haven’t seen him play a game. And even though I would agree for the most part that rookie WRs on the aggregate have a largely secondary impact I think that that rule is changing with regards to the top drafted WRs.

Looking back at last year’s first round, there were four receivers drafted whom I would consider had very impactful rookie years: Michael Crabtree, Percy Harvin, Jeremy Maclin, and Hakeem Nicks. Semantically you could argue those guys only had “secondary” impacts since none of them were their team’s number one receivers, but I think we could all agree that if Dez was able to have an impact like those guys for a full 16 game season (something Crabtree and Nicks didn’t even get a chance to do) that we would be very pleased with how he helped our passing game.

In 2008, no WRs were taken in the first round but two guys in the second round, Eddie Royal (who of course regressed this past year) and Desean Jackson had hugely impactful rookie years. Also, Donnie Avery did some pretty nice things in his rookie year for a really weak passing game.

In 2007, out of all the first round WRs (6), 3 had impactful rookie years in Calvin Johnson (simply a beast), Dwayne Bowe, and to a lesser extent Anthony Gonzalez.

In 2006, out of the first four WRs taken in the first two rounds, Santonio Holmes and Greg Jennings had impactful rookie years.

The point I am making here is that for the top talent guys (1st or even 2nd round draftees) I don’t think the rule exists any more that they have to wait a few years before making a significant impact on a team. Now, as I kind of alluded to earlier, I do still think it is extremely difficult for a rookie to come in and be an elite NFL receiver or even a #1 WR on a team. Only a few guys in the last 20 years have done that (Randy Moss being obvious and Michael Clayton being completely non-obvious). The great thing about the whole Dez situation though is that he doesn’t have to do that. We have Miles Austin and Jason Witten to put that burden on. As a #2 or #3 JG can put Dez in the best positions to succeed (time will tell if he can successfully do that) and with his natural talent I think he can certainly have a huge impact on this team’s fortunes this year just like Harvin did last year in a similar role (he had AP and Rice to take the burden off him). This rule you speak of is disappearing in my opinion and as such I don’t think Dez having a sizeable impact on this team is unlikely. I also especially don’t think that way after hearing the training camp reports about his performance.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 2, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry, didn't quite mean for it to be that long.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 2, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sheesh!!!

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's make sure we have context

Crabtree was always supposed to be the #1 in SF. Again, context is important. Arnaz Battle? Josh Morgan? Those guys are hardly Miles and RW.

Maclin had to beat out who exactly? Certainly no one the caliber of Miles, RW and Crayton.

Nicks is a beast. That guy is a starter on anybody’s team because of how he attacks the ball and uses his frame. I can’t argue his rookie impact, especially given his lack of a full season. But it should be noted that he was slated to replace Plaxico.

We already discussed Harvin.

In all of the above cases, however, the players had highly productive final years in school. In each of those cases, they were put on a team with a dire need at WR with little in front of them (okay, Harvin had Rice and BErrian, but no truly scary #3).

Lastly, the reports about his training camp performances have to be taken with some trepidation, only because, well, he didn’t have that much camp time to be reported on.

Again,

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

oops, meant to say...

Again, this all about PROJECTING what Dez will do.

My expectations are clearly a bit lower than yours.

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here is where I am coming from.

Dez’s talent has always been held in extremely high regard. Mayock said that his tape put him as a top-5 player. Before he got suspended there were several scouts saying that Dez was better than Crabtree and was maybe the best WR to come out since Megatron. Does this mean a ton? No it doesn’t as far as what his production will be, but it provides a lot of context for where he was on the WR curve in college. As such, I feel comfortable looking at him as a guy with talent that was not quite reflective of his draft position (fair or not) and therefore I have higher expectations for him compared to most late first round WRs.

Secondly, with regards to the year off, I would agree with that point of view if he hadn’t torn up minicamps and training camp the way he did. Now I do get what you are saying about him not being in camp very long before the injury, but ultimately I just think that with the reports being consistent in their praise that I can conclude that he certainly has the natural talent to be as good as advertised. I think that all in all pretty much wipes out the idea that the year off hurt him unless you really believe that he would be that much better with an extra year.

As for your context, I once again can see your perspective but ultimately I believe there is definitely room for Dez to take enough snaps to make a huge impact. Crayton, for all his fan love, maximizes his talent level as a #3 WR and has nowhere near the physical talents that Dez does. I see no reason that Dez couldn’t come in and be better. Also, I find it slightly odd that you would list Roy as a guy that would be really hard for Dez to pass. I am one of the biggest Roy supporters on this site but even I don’t think he is good enough to consistently keep a guy with Dez’s upside off the field for a long time. I see no reason that by week 8 Roy and Dez couldn’t be rotating in and out at the #2 position based off the package that is called. In summary, while this team’s need for WR couldn’t be described as dire, I don’t think either Crayton or RW is going to keep Dez off the field if he even comes close to the expectations that scouts had for him coming out of college. As such, I see no reason he couldn’t make a huge impact on this team.

Also, just for the sake of clarity, I don’t think Dez is going to stroll in and rip off a 1000 yard season. I believe that a great season for him would be something like 800 yards and 8 TDs as a great redzone threat (assuming Tony ever actually has time to throw). Perhaps it is semantics, but if he could do that alongside the rest of the cast we have I think that would be a huge impact (not to mention his return capabilities).

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 3, 2010 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you summed up my points pretty well

When you add the fact hat he has what could be an injury that lingers, I think everyone should hope for big things…but not expect them.

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Standout rookie receivers since '06.
P. Harvin (‘09) 60 REC, 790 YDS, 6 TD
H. Nicks (’09) 47 REC, 790 YDS, 6 TD
J. Maclin (‘09) 56 REC, 773 YDS, 4 TD
M. Wallace (’09) 39 REC, 756 YDS, 6 TD
K. Britt (‘09) 42 REC, 701 YDS, 3 TD
M. Crabtree (’09) 48 REC, 625 YDS, 2 TD

Six youngbloods last season who gave you Crayton-quality performance when he’s at his best.

But wait, there’s more.

D. Bowe (‘07) 70 REC, 995 YDS, 5 TD
E. Royal (’08) 91 REC, 980 YDS, 5 TD
D. Jackson (‘08) 62 REC, 912 YDS, 2 TD
S. Holmes (’06) 49 REC, 824 YDS, 2 TD
C. Johnson (‘07) 48 REC, 756 YDS, 4 TD
D. Avery (’08) 53 REC, 674 YDS, 3 TD

And of course just for the sake of comparison.


P. Crayton (’07) 50 REC, 697 YDS, 7 TD

Now I’m not saying the days of super epic mega busts at the receiver position are over. In fact, I believe the ’Skins selected not one but two of them in the ’08 Draft.

However it is absolutely not only possible but highly likely for Dez to step right in as a rookie and best Crayton’s career year by 200 yards at least.

by MadMick on Sep 3, 2010 2:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure where you get "likely" from

In the examples you used, how many of them stepped into a cast of skill players like the one I listed for JimmyK below?

To make your post relevant, you’d need to post ALL of the WR’s takenin round 1 and their rookie performmances along with whether they played as a #1 like Bowe and Jackson did, a #2 like Maclin, Royal, Johnson and Avery did or a #3, like Crayton.

As I read the depth chart right now, isn’t Dez #4?

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

dez will have a big season blings,

by which i mean ,number 2 wr by week 8.
8 or more tds ,including sts..
due to the preponderance of the HE in your post ,is jerry HEman ?…

Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!

by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 4:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gimme a prediction on ycatches, yards and TD's

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

71, 925, 12

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by Seanrude on Sep 3, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’ll take the under on any one of those 3… (You can even pick any one of them)…

Name your price.

by JimmyK on Sep 3, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Touchdowns, beer and mussels at Monk's

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by Seanrude on Sep 3, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

You think the kid is going to get 12 TD’s?

Who do you think is going to get injured? Austin or Witten?

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by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where’s Monk’s?

by JimmyK on Sep 3, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

16th and Walnut(?) in Philly

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by Seanrude on Sep 3, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude, that's crazy!

See me in January!!!!

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by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

predictions are for.

60 + catches- 750+ yards and 6 rec tds with a couple of st tds too…

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by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Say more...

Do you think he becomes the #2?

Do you think someone gets hurt?

Do you think he unseats Crayton?

What???

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by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

already said above blings,

no2 wr by week 8..
craytons gone now………

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by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also have to remember that Miles Austin wasn't a big game receiver in college

He was picked up as an UDFA because of his athleticism. Monmouth wasn’t exactly known for their offensive prowess.

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by Brandon Worley on Sep 2, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Neither was Mississippi Valley State

;-)

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by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't buy it.

Well over a dozen rookie receivers have stepped right in over the past 5-6 seasons and produced as good or better than old reliable Crayton at his dead level best. For one, Hakeem Nicks last season. There are too many examples of productive rookie receivers to pretend they are such a long shot to step right in and contribute anymore.

When you’re as talented as Dez you’ll certainly be able to find a way to get open once Romo extends plays. Chemistry is just a mere formality.

by MadMick on Sep 2, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bad example

Nicks stepped into a void left by Plaxico.

Dez walks in as the #4 WR on the team and would be taking balls from Jason Witten, not Kevin Boss.

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by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Have a cite for Dez being that low on the depth chart?

Yeah, I guess if Garrett is too ignorant to play him until Week 10 he won’t put up that kind of production.

by MadMick on Sep 3, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's the one I tend to use...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/dal/depthchart

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by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some chart.

Apparently Dez is behind Ogletree.

by MadMick on Sep 3, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

Ogletree has played in the two preseasons and one regular season.

There are others that say the same thing on ESPN and CBS Sports.

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by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just make sure to stop in and eat your crow.

When Dez steps onto the field in the season opener way before Ogletree does. Crayton? Who’s he? Oh yeah. He gone.

by MadMick on Sep 3, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed on Ogletree, but you think they cut/trade PC?

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by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yikes!

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by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like Dez is now #3 on the depth chart!!!

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by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know why I didn't bring this example up before.

Now let me preface this by saying in no way will Dez get near Moss’s rookie year, but the guy Randy Moss leapfrogged as a rookie.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/ReedJa00.htm

1,175 yards, 1,167, 1,320 and 1,138 yards in his previous four seasons prior to Moss getting drafted. In other words, a consistent pro bowl caliber receiver. Of course, Reed was 31 and Roy is only 29. That’s the only thing remotely in Roy’s favor in such a comparison. Moral of the story; even great veterans can be leapfrogged by a talented yoof. Roy isn’t even all that good.

by MadMick on Sep 3, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

The sky is the limit for Dez

…but let’s not start off with comparisons to Randy Moss. It’s totally unfair to Dez.

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by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or comparing Roy to Jake Reed?

It’s not fair to Jake.

Although I do believe I even said in my previous reply that there’s no way does Dez approach Moss’s rookie year. However it should be pointed out that Moss had plenty of doubters not just because of an incident as a high school senior but because some geniuses judged his frame as being too skinny to fight off press coverage. Or that he did his damage 1-AA competition and even as a senior abused a bunch of mid-majors. So yes, even the great Moss had some questions raised about his game coming out of college.

Dez can definitely be Hakeem Nicks which means Roy’s job is his by Week Six. Book it. This rule that rookie receivers have to wait their turn to crack the line-up seems kind of arbitrary and foolish. Just on sheer athleticism Dez should be able to pull as many plays out of his tookus as Roy does. I can’t stress enough how the point wasn’t comparing Dez to Moss but how a talented rookie receiver can and
logically should supplant even a proven veteran if he’s good enough. Of course, all Roy has proven as a Cowboy is that he’s good at stealing Jerry’s money.

by MadMick on Sep 3, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

Dez has a stud #1 WR, a #2 he has to beat out and one of the league’s most capable pass-catching TE’s in Witten.

It’s easier to make an impact playing opposite Steve Smith, Mario Manningham and Kevin Boss than Miles, RW and Witten.

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by 5Blings on Sep 4, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, right. Very funny.

Too bad that at this point Roy isn’t half the player the Giants Steve Smith is. I guess you could stretch it and say Manningham is only in his 3rd year and that the season he had last year didn’t come close to matching Roy’s career year; that is if you want to cling to the “Roy’s best season” spiel. So we could bury our heads in the sand and call Manningham/Roy a “wash.” Well, I wouldn’t but I guess you could stretch and bend reality and claim you’d rather have Roy over Manningham at this point.

Even with the disparity between Boss and Witten’s targets, the gulf between Roy’s production and the Smith/Manningham duo(164 combined catches in ‘09 to Roy’s 38) still seems to indicate there will be plenty of balls to go Dez’s way; especially considering that the Cowboys and Giants passed the ball virtually the same amount of times last season.

Furthermore, even factoring in Witten’s 94 receptions a year ago, that’s still 30 less catches for Witten/Roy than
Smith/Manningham. Also Crayton’s no longer with the team so that’s 35-40 more passes to go somebody’s way and I just don’t think Roy’s up for that kind of increased workload.

50 catches for 800 yards seem like very achievable numbers for Dez to me.

Here’s the deal. Roy couldn’t start for as many as 18 teams and there are very few places where he would be a marked upgrade unless we’re talking the Deadskins. He’s nobody. If Dez shows any flashes early, Roy’s arse is riding the pine by mid-October.

by MadMick on Sep 4, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

One other key thing; Dez's importance.

Won’t be measured in production alone. But rather if he shows enough to scare other teams into having account for him he opens up things all that much more for Witten and Austin.

The only guys Roy is giving sleepless nights are three amigos that go by Jerry, Jason and Tony. That’s not Wade’s department.

by MadMick on Sep 4, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nicks wasn't on the field the whole season

So your measurement of Mario and Steve vs. Roy is skewed.

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by 5Blings on Sep 5, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Which is all the more reason.

Why Dez can have at least 800 yards if Nicks only played 14 games and started 6 and put up the numbers he did.

Besides the fact that somebody else is going to get Crayton’s slice of the pie(it’s pretty baffling that you think Dez can’t easily do this) once you take away Austin and Witten’s slice of the pie from last year’s passing game there was still over 2,100 yards left amongst the other receivers.

I just can’t see Jerry letting this season go down the toilet if Roy’s biggest contribution continues to be preventing interceptions almost caused by the awful routes he ran in the first place.

by MadMick on Sep 5, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

You missed my point

The math you used to compare the numbers for Manningham and Smith to Roy is that both were starting WR’s for the Giants. This diminishes the weight of your prior comparison.

Said differently, you can’t compare our #2’s productivity versus their #1 and #2.

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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 5, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

But you can compare our #3 last year to Dez.

The only wild card is how hesitant might Romo be to trust Dez? But if Romo is still concerned enough about getting Roy involved to force those horrible balls to Roy with a guy parked in front of him I think he’ll do the same for Dez.

by MadMick on Sep 5, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

And there you have it

The summation of my argument.

It takes more time in an offense like Redball’s to get timing down with Romo.

Crayton had it. Miles has it. RW and Dez don’t.

But let’s get your skin in the game…

What kind of stats would you expect to see when The Season of Jerry is over for Dez???

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by 5Blings on Sep 5, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

50 rec, 800 yards, 8 TD.

A fat round 16 YPC. Romo’s rapport with Dez is legitimate food for thought but I think Dez starts off by making a clown out of, let’s say, DeAngelo Hall in Week one. I think Dez can show enough big plays at least every other game early on to justify Romo throwing him more bones.

Besides we can all agree that Jerry has at least some say in who he mandates is going to be given a certain amount of playing time and Dez is his guy. Jerry wants to see Dez on the field early and often. When Romo gets sick of Roy posting up and breaking up interceptions, he’ll have to look Dez’s way.

By the way, when I bring up the trust factor, I’m also putting some of that on the magic man’s own problems with some of his weird accuracy issues that pop up from time to time.

by MadMick on Sep 5, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

"accuracy issues"? Romo?

Watch what you say, MM.

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by 5Blings on Sep 6, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

That 2008 team pissed me off

I admittedly have a rosy outlook on Dallas, but the way that team downplayed some poor performances early in the year especially defensively frustrated me. It took till out backs were against the wall (TB) for the defense to turn around, but by then the oline was struggling and Romo was struggling and we couldn’t make it over the hump.

That attitude is long gone. And though Wade makes similar statements, you can see hes much more concerned than he was that year.

by foyesboys on Sep 1, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I too was frustrated by that group...

You would have been hard pressed to find a more talented team and I thought the upset loss to the Giants would have served as motivation for improvement.

We saw, in that season, what Wade isn’t. Despite the wise counsel from Jerry after that season ended, I’m not sure Wade is any more like Rex Ryan than he was before the 2008 season.

Last year, with fewer personalities to have to manage, we saw what Wade is, a standout defensive coordinator.

Now the question is, much like after 2007, how do they (and really, how does HE) deal with their prior year’s success and their season-ending pain?

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by 5Blings on Sep 1, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

forgot to say.

excellent post blings.
obviously a lot of thought and time went into writing it..
mucho respect : )

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by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 4:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gracias amigo...

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by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Felix Jones should have been taken third overall out of the rbs?!?

Felix Jones is better than Mendenhall and as i’ve stated before, with the right opportunities is ALMOST as good as CJ. If that draft was done over Felix would be taken #2 as far as Rb’s. I love your write up here. I do think if we win a superbowl Jerry will have had alot do to with it but personally, if we win the big one I think it will be on the O-line. We know what Tony can do, we know what the Rb’s can do, we know what the receivers can do and have seen in practice and a taste of college what Dez can do. We know what our defense can do after a stellar performance last year and with returning almost everyone. But without the proper time to throw to our receivers, or holes for our backs to run through, we go no where.

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by I am a Romosexual on Sep 1, 2010 11:47 AM CDT reply actions  

At this moment in time, how could he be thought of differently?

In Mendenhall’s only full season, he’s rushed for over 1,000 yards coming off of a nasty injury.

I’m not even going to guess at what “the right opportunities” means in regard to Felix. I think the biggest issue surrounding FJ now is if he can be a bell cow kind of back. Thus far, he hasn’t shown that he can and people are starting to think he is brittle and NEEDS to be a non-feature back.

Let me ask you a question about last year. Since we didn’t win the Super Bowl, do you believe last year was the year of the O-line?

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by 5Blings on Sep 1, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

bell cow?

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by Seanrude on Sep 1, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know about bell cow...

but I do know about cow bell…

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by Iron Fist on Sep 1, 2010 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

LMAO

The new mantra: No more injuries. No more injuries. Everybody now: NO MORE INJURIES!

by Tom Ryle on Sep 1, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is that Stephen Jones' long lost brother?

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by 5Blings on Sep 1, 2010 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Regarding the o-line. . . Yes I would actually.

I would put the majority of the blame on the o-line for last years struggles. How different would the Vikings game have gone if our line was healthy and able to block them? I would not necessaraly say we would, without a doubt, win that game but it would not have been the blow out it was. Listen I agree with your column and it is a great write up, but I would not label this year the year of jerry. Jerry deserves credit for putting this team in the position their in. Over the last few years he has worked his magic and because of him as an owner/ GM we have a shot to go deep into the playoffs and possibly get a superbowl. But with shotty a o-line we will get no where. I truely believe if they give romo time and our D plays well we will be unstobbable! lets hope your six blings by this time next year.

      Regarding felix, mendenhall had more than TWICE the carries than felix but less than twice as many yards. Felix is an amazing back and as the bell cow against philly he had 16 carries for 148 yards. . .

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by I am a Romosexual on Sep 2, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Would you give the O-line credit for stonewalling the Eagles 3 times?

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by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, they kept romo upright and we blew them out as the meetings continued

If the line can keep him off his back. there is no doubt we will have success. He’s on his back, we go nowhere.

Fulton Greenwall: Perhaps we should slow down just a teensy-weensy bit?
Ace Ventura: Nonsense, poopy-pants.

by I am a Romosexual on Sep 2, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even great O-lines have tough games

I wouldn’t say the play of the O-line last year was the signle biggest contingency upon which Dallas’ success was predicated. I think, first and foremost, the team unity was what was dramatically different.

But what should not go unnoticed is what romo did after the first Giants game to allow the team to be successful. He stepped back and let the dominant unit on this team, namely the defense, take more of a front-and-center role in the team’s fortunes.

That is backed up by the fact that Dallas, for all of Romo’s gaudy stats, was still a middle of the pack team in scoring.

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by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Felix doesn't need to be a bellcow.

But he sure as hell needs to be much more than Jerious freaking Norwood. I’d be satisfied if Felix was saddled with Warrick Dunn’s old workload; 250 total touches with around 200 rushes and 40-50 receptions.

It could be worse. I wonder how Mad Al feels since he was the sucker that took Darren McFadden.

by MadMick on Sep 2, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

DMAC will have a good year

the whole raiders team will. Just wait playoff bound they are. JC gives them stability at a position they havent had for a long time. The Raiders are set up to be a good team for the next 5-7 years

Really?! Really?!

by thebigham on Sep 3, 2010 7:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Have you seen Marion Barber?

Felix needs to step up or this team’s run game will be sub-par.

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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Now that's not what I said is it?

When I hear bellcow I think a guy who carries the ball 20 times at least every game and in some games real heavy sledding to the tune of 25-30 times. That’s definitely going to be what Shonn Greene’s role is considering the Jets ran the ball 37 times a game last year.

All Felix needs to do his damage is 15-17 carries and 3-4 receptions out of the backfield; if he can stay healthy. Felix definitely needs to be the man the running game is centered around and every indication at the end of last season was that he will be.

by MadMick on Sep 3, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

If they are not going to give Choice meaningful reps...

I think they have to give Felix the rock 20 times.

I’m not sure but wasn’t that part of why he was trying to add some bulk over the off season?

Like I said, Barber carrying the ball behind this O-line is not a good thing for an offense that ranked 14th in points scored last season and struggled in the red zone.

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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

The more carries for Felix the better.

I’m with you there. I like Choice too but I’m not the guy doling out the carries. It all depends on how they use Barber. As long as they’re willing to pull the plug until late in the game if there’s a series early where he looks sluggish I could still see him getting an early series to gauge his effectiveness. You never know with this coaching staff though.

by MadMick on Sep 3, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

JG befuddles me at times

Never more so than down the stretch last year when Barber looked bad and Choice was never on the field.

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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Felix Jones is not “almost” as good as Chris Johnson. That’s lunacy.

by JimmyK on Sep 2, 2010 6:03 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

We know

That’s fan appreciation more so than objectivity. But it is BTB after all.

Right now, you’d have to say that Adrian Peterson is almost as good as Chris Johnson.

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by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not really
Right now, you’d have to say that Adrian Peterson is almost as good as Chris Johnson.

Peterson hasn’t had a statistical season as good as what CJ put together last year, but he has been performing at an elite level for longer. He is still the best running back in the NFL I believe.

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Sep 3, 2010 2:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

No way

CJ doesn’t fumble like AP.

CJ is a workhorse who’s played with much lesser complementary guys than Chester Taylor.

CJ is the man.

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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

One great season

Doesn’t make someone the best in the league. I want to see some consistency before I label him that. Do you think Aaron Rodgers is the best qb in the league? Or Vernon Davis the best TE?

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Sep 3, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Rodgers is a top 5 QB

I think Davis is a top 5 TE.

I think CJ was the best RB in football last year. He keeps that moniker until someone’s performance overshadows his.

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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 4, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

He keeps the title

of best RB in football last year, but not the best RB in football.

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Sep 4, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huh?

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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 5, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

He had the best season last year

But I don’t think he is the best RB in football.

Just as Vernon Davis had the best TE season last year, but that doesn’t make him the league’s best TE.

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Sep 5, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't say he had the best season

I said CJ was the best in the game.

That’s where this comparison with Davis and other TE’s begins and ends.

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 6, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

And that is where we disagree

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Sep 6, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Peterson's only been in the league a year longer than Johnson.

You make it sound like he’s already won three rushing crowns and went over 1,300 yards six straight seasons. I think they’re both awesome but there hasn’t been a running back as electrifying as Chris Johnson since Marshall Faulk or Barry Sanders.

Besides when you factor in total yards from scrimmage, Peterson’s best year so far was 1,895 total yards (last season); Johnson, 2,509 yards from scrimmage last year. Insane.

by MadMick on Sep 4, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Insane is right

He did it on a team that had really no vertical attack and any Dc that played them went in with one goal in mind: stop CJ.

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 5, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I said with the right opportunities, he could almost be as good

He has game changing ability simular to CJ in the sense he can take it to the house anytime. . . Im not saying he will ever be as good or come close to the production CJ has but I think he is a game changer, with the right opportunities, almost as much as CJ

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by I am a Romosexual on Sep 2, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Doesn't he have to prove he can HANDLE those opportunities?

How about he starts out with just being available for 16 games?

Baby steps…

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

I’d say that “when healthy”, Felix has been as good as anyone. But consistency and durability have to count for something. Consistency and durability are a large reason Emmitt is in the HOF.

If Felix is health for 12+ games in a year though…thats the year I really hope I have him on my fantasy team.

by foyesboys on Sep 2, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

This year we'll find out if he is brittle or not

You can’t be hurt 3 consecutive years and not get that tag…

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great post.

I think about it this way….If they win it all, who would be the one I was most happy for? Romo…Wade…yeah sure but it would be Jerry who would have the biggest smile. I know he wants this team to win as much as I want them to win.
Works for me.

Anomoly............Finally here.........

by goat3000 on Sep 1, 2010 12:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks g3

I have to ask. In your quote, is “Anomoly” a a misspelling or does it mean something spelled the way you have it that I just don’t know about?

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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 1, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn....thanks 5Blings.

Total misspelling there. And it’s been a year without ever noticing. It was time to change anyway….

Go Cowboys.....Go White Sox.....

by goat3000 on Sep 2, 2010 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

No worries

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

agree on being happiest for jerry,

thats saying a lot,considering i hated the man after the jimmy johnson exit grrrrrrrr….
after all these years of his trying to buy and trade his way back to the promised land,ive kind of mellowed towards the man.
he wants to win and he does love the cowboys…

Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!

by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 4:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

HE WANTS TO WIN

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was looking at other photos...

the game has really taken its toll on Jerry.

He hasn’t aged well.

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I liked the pudgier '90s Jerry.

This Jerry’s face is pulled a little too tight. He looks like that creepy Kane dude from Poltergeist 2. Or an evil industrialist threatening some do gooder.

by MadMick on Sep 3, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

compared to Jimmy Johnson Jerry looks 20 years older

but its probably not fair to compare him to Jimmy Johnson that dude found the fountain of youth… its called knowing when to leave on a high note, Costanza style

Really?! Really?!

by thebigham on Sep 3, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Being president ans leading a football team in the NFL

Those jobs take years off of your life.

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 4, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

BTW

excellent post

AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.

Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.

by Iron Fist on Sep 1, 2010 12:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks IF

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 1, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think our OL will be the key to either our success or failure in 2010

All other aspects of the team look pretty solid and fairly deep, but our starting OL has underachieved in too many games and the backups aren’t very good.

Although if I had to point to one area like bling, I would say the 2010 is the year of the defense. To me, this will be the unit that the Cowboys will ultimately rely on this year when we’re going through our peaks and valleys. To me, our defense will achieve elite status and carry us to a championship.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Sep 1, 2010 12:53 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree completely

The o-line is the achilles heel, but Romo is elusive enough to mask that, at least at times, and if Dez is the real deal and/or Roy Williams becomes an effective receiver, the team can overcome the o-line deficiencies.

The defense is the key. If they play the way they are capable of playing, and the offense can put together at least a few sustained drives per game to prevent the D from getting too gassed, Super Bowl here we come

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by Seanrude on Sep 1, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking if we average around 20-24 points per game

that will be good enough to win most games given how good our defense will be.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Sep 1, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

That sounds about right, I just hope that the D stays off the field enough that they can prevent late game comebacks

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by Seanrude on Sep 1, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sean + Terry

I agree as well.
Defense needs to consistently allow Romo/Witten the opportunity to win games, if they can do that, we can go pretty deep.

I think the Defense can do more for the Cowboys this year, than what Jerry “could” have done.
Even if Jerry got some Lineman, we would still need the defense to take it to the next level and be consistent. Jerry has done its part over the past few seasons to give us a shot … but specifically for this year … I am going to have to agree … Defense.

by fuji1232 on Sep 1, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the defense did that last year, didn't they?

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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 1, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you guys

There are two ways (imo) we will end up viewing this season

1. the year of the defense – This group, especially the front 7, is ridiculously good. Our first 3 cbs are well above average. We have an unknown at the safety postion, but a HEALTHY Ware and Spencer could dominate so much so that our safety deficiency isn’t a problem. If we win a couple playoff games, it will be mostly because of this D. Romo will have to play well too obviously, since I have little faith in the line to win the battles on the line of scrimmage

2. The year of the oline…. I think we all can see this possibly coming. After struggling heavily against the Broncos, Giants (second game), Eagles (first game), Packers, Chargers and Vikings…its easy to see, even for those fans with rose colored glasses, how this team will need its oline to play much better than it has recently.

by foyesboys on Sep 1, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think they are going to be much better

That’s asking a lot.

They’ll do some things (fewer penalties, pull from the left side) better and some things (handling bull rushers in the middle, speed rushers from the right side) not so well.

In the end, I’m not sure how different this O-line will be, when you net it all out, from last year.

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 1, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I should've specified

much better than they’ve played this preseason – and they are capable of that.

My concern though is that they’ll be worse than last year (and maybe only marginally better than this preseason), and Romo’s life will be a living hell.

by foyesboys on Sep 2, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

If they don’t play MUCH BETTER than this preseason, Romo will need to call Lloyd’s of London and up that policy amount!!!

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

2008 was the Year of Jerry...2010 is the Year of...

First, I love this series of posts, and your writing generally.

The “Year of” designation goes most appropriately to the figure whose performance is both pivotal and uncertain. Looking backward, your picks for 2007 and 2009 hold up quite well. But 2008 was apex of Jerry’s assertiveness as GM: Hard Knocks, adding and retaining guys with bad task cohesion, marketing Texas Stadium’s final act and beginning the promotion of JerryWorld. It was the year when chemistry was overrated and JerryMarketer got in the way of JerryGM.

If we believe that JerryGM was chastened by 2008, we know what we have with Jerry this year. We know what we have with Wade. We know what we have with Romo, and Houck, and even the fading offensive line.

So I think this is The Year Jason Garrett, aka Red Ball, aka The Red Headed Genius. We have three years of data on him, but the third year was the most enigmatic. He has gone from the hottest coordinator in the NFL to a guy who wasn’t interviewed for HC positions despite leading a very good offense. The last three years have ended with losses in which his offense has been dominated. This season begins with a fan base in minor freak out mode over his unit. Garrett could be the next Sean Payton or he could be the next Scott Linehan.

Dallas’ Super Bowl aspirations turn on the question: can our offense achieve super-elite status the way the ‘08 Steelers defense and the ’09 Saints offense did? Our defense is consistently very solid, but Wade’s scheme is not high risk/reward, and our secondary lacks ball skills. So if we are to have the kind of super-elite unit that wins the Super Bowl these days, it’s going to have to be the offense.

And this is an offense with lots of talent and lots of questions:
Can RHG scheme around his offensive line’s shortcomings to score more red zone points and keep his quarterback upright?

Can he get production out of Martellus Bennett and Roy Williams?

Can he turn Felix Jones and Dez Bryant into “blue” or “red” level players in the way that Spencer and Jenkins have been developed on the other side of the ball?

Can he help Romo make the leap to Manning/Brady/Brees territory?

Can he do it in Green Bay in January?

Can he bring his stock back to its 2007 level and establish himself as Wade’s no-doubt-in-any-fan’s-mind successor?

No major figure’s performance is more pivotal and more uncertain than Jason Garrett’s. 2010 is the Year of Jason.

by TimSchultz36 on Sep 1, 2010 1:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Consistency

I personally think it is more likely going to come from the Defense.
I just don’t think our offense is built to be consistent, much like our defense is.

Our defense has a bend-not-break mentality and I think only our secondary is what is keeping us from being elite. If we are to somehow manage to get some playmakers back there in the secondary .. we should really be set. Imagine what would happen, if we were somehow able to generate turnovers, along with our sack totals, I think they would be elite. Not to mention our offense would be in a much better position to drive/score.

The offense has a big question mark on the OLine that prohibits both parts of the offense in passing/running. The only way the offense could really help the defense, is for it to have sustainable drives and keep them off the field, which I dont see happening. The running game is based off misdirection and its harder to have Barber pound it like he did a couple years ago.

IF the offense can be consistent, aka drive and score consistency … GREAT! But more than likely consistency is going to happen on the defensive side, IMO. I think its almost a fluke how many turnovers we DIDNT GET last season. I fully expect that number to go up and the defense to grow out of a bend-not-break type defense.

by fuji1232 on Sep 1, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

no, it wasn't a fluke...

Turnovers in the Defensive backfield come from players that “make plays on the ball,” either in their ability to come down with contested passes or make big hits that separate receivers from the ball and lead to carom picks/fumbles. Jenkins is the only back that has the former ability, and none of our guys are elite in the latter ability. Newman was a track star that only dedicated to football as a college sophomore, and his lack of hands/ball awareness won’t improve in his 30s. Alan Ball is a modest improvement over Hamlin, but he’s not a turnover creating difference-maker. Wade’s rep as a blitzy-DC is wrong. He brings unexpected and creative pressure, but his D is very conservative on the back end. It is what it is: designed to make offenses bring their absolute A game to score a lot of points. The tradeoff is that teams can play keep away without scoring a lot (see last year’s Chargers game), and that matters when our offense sometimes takes a while to click in a game.

by TimSchultz36 on Sep 1, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

How much more can you really ask of the defense than what we got last year?

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 1, 2010 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

more Turnovers?

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by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Sep 1, 2010 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you got more turnovers but gave up more yards and points, would you be happy?

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 1, 2010 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, speaking for myself, I might

If we gain more points and/or yards through turnovers than we give up, yes. So if we give up a touchdown a game because our DBs and LBs are gambling on interceptions, but we score 10 points more ourselves because of the INTs they do make – yeah, that works for me.

It don’t matter how you put them W’s up, just as long as you put ’em up.

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by Tom Ryle on Sep 1, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Getting more turnover's is one thing

Getting them and turning them into points is clearly another.

Finally, getting them and turning them into more points than you give up from the gambles your team made to get them is yet another thing.

I wonder (in case OCC is hovering) what Wade’s defenses have done, historically speaking, in terms of turnovers in SD, Buffalo, etc. and how they ranked with other teams.

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 1, 2010 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is hovering

but the man is tired and is going to bed early today, because his alarm clock is set to go off at 1:30 am so he can watch a largely meaningless pre-season game.

4 hours or so later he sips a Calvados in memory of dearly departed friends and goes back to bed.

by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 2, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Getting up at 1:30 to watch THIS game?

Ladies and gentlemen, I ask you…

Who else has fans like the Dallas Cowboys?

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember a post here awhile back

that showed that Phillips led defenses consistently produce high sack totals, but low turnover numbers.

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Sep 3, 2010 2:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

But why???????

What’s the root cause of that?

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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know

but it is something that seemingly characterizes Wade Phillip’s Defenses.

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Sep 3, 2010 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I read a post from Chandus (I think) a while back about TO's and our defense

I wonder if the idea of getting more TO’s isn’t about having an elite FS covering the deep half but really a factor of design?

Maybe Phillips doesn’t place marquee value on TO’s?

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 4, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

This team isn't going on a Parcells-esque run in the playoffs by winning the turnover ratio 3/1.

Again that kind of sounds like a straw man. Who are these stacked defenses that give up significantly more points than they would otherwise because they’re more aggressive in pursuing turnovers? Truly great defenses just go out there and either knock the piss out of people or rush the hell out of the passer and turnovers happen as a byproduct.

Now in the strictest sense, no, if you consistently hold the opposition to 10-14 points then you don’t need turnovers and lack of getting them can’t be blamed as the reason you lost a game. That goes without saying though.

Going back to 1990, the past twenty Super Bowl Champions have forced just under 35 turnovers on average during the regular season; or 14 more than the Cowboys puny 21 takeaways last season.

by MadMick on Sep 2, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm struggling to understand your point, MM

Can you rephrase?

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

If a defense.

Can’t be aggressive in pursuing turnovers without fearing that they’ll give up a ton of big plays in the process they don’t have the horses in the first place to be considered great. Ashante Samuel. DeAngelo Hall. Big play corners because they get toasted as often as they make game-changing pick sixes which lead people to mistake them for great corners.

by MadMick on Sep 3, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right

So do you want to see Dallas gamble more (seems like that is atypical of WP defenses) or continue to be conservative and focus on yards given up?

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since it's atypical I guess it doesn't matter what I want.

One realistic thing I would like to see from Mike Jenkins is have his INT total stay at least five and maybe even take a few more gambles to snag 7-8 picks. But with the caveat that he doesn’t become a gambling fool like Samuel and Hall which is what happened in the playoffs on that long TD pass to Maclin.

The defensive philosophy sure didn’t seem to do them any favors against the immortal Elimaniac as they only sacked him and picked him off once, while he was throwing for 571 yards and 15 yards per completion in last year’s set against the Giants.

Otherwise, it really depends on the opponent. Forcing McNabb to extend drives to beat you is wise of course, especially with the group of humps the ’Skins have as skill players.

by MadMick on Sep 3, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you're right about it being situational

Seems to me Eli busted us up by throwing into the deep middle of the field where our safeties just seemed overmatched by Steve Smith.

Everyone clamoring for more turnovers seems like a nice-to-have. How about we get the SAME performance out of the defense as last year and find a way to be in the top 6 in scoring this year?

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

That'll do.

Whatever they do in the regular season if they are to go all the way there will have to be at least one game during the postseason where they force a great offense into an uncharacteristic number of turnovers.

by MadMick on Sep 3, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

are you refering to the Vick TD?

if so Jenkins didnt Gamble he slipped coming out of the break

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by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Sep 3, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you think a healthy Ware would have changed the defensive outcome of last season?

Seems like he was good to go when we needed him. He just didn’t have the impact that Ray Edwards did.

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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 1, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

A healthy ware all season

may have given us a 1st round bye.

You’re talking about a hall of fame caliber player. We had close losses where ware was playing hurt or got hurt in the middle of the game against the Giants twice, Broncos, Chargers and Packers. In each of those games aside from GB I think its fair to say we could’ve won with just a few more defensive plays.

by foyesboys on Sep 2, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe, but that's the kind of speculation that can get you into a rabbit hole

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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the nice words...

I thought a lot about Redball. But here’s what jumped out at me;

He COULD have a huge impact on the offense and he could improve his play calling dramatically and we could all walk away happy with him.

But, even if the offense moved from 14th in points scored to 6th or 7th or 8th this year as a direct result of JG’s mastery (that may be asking a lot given the preseason cluster), if that didn’t lead to improved overall team performance because the defense declined for some reason (they were #2, it’s likely that they will) or the kicker missed a few big kicks, I’m not sure JG would get much notice.

On 2008, I hold Wade wholly accountable for the team’s meltdown. Not Jerry, not Jason, but Wade. And that would be no different for when Campo was the coach and got fired for poor performance or when Switzer got canned for not herding his cats properly.

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 1, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll go with 5blings

I saw the punchline to this coming – I’ll credit that to your writing, not my own intelligence. But I think your arguments are cogent.

Who was driving the draft decisions to not address the O line?

Who probably was over the coach’s shoulders preaching to not show their hands in the pre season (I am still boycotting the “V” word)?

With the death of Steinbrenner in New York, is there a sports franchise in the world that is more a reflection of the owner/GM/resident self appointed genius than the Dallas Cowboys?

If Dallas can go all the way this year, it will finally validate Jerry’s Way.

And if they don’t, he’ll try again next year.

The new mantra: No more injuries. No more injuries. Everybody now: NO MORE INJURIES!

by Tom Ryle on Sep 1, 2010 3:56 PM CDT reply actions  

What a fantastic point!
With the death of Steinbrenner in New York, is there a sports franchise in the world that is more a reflection of the owner/GM/resident self appointed genius than the Dallas Cowboys?

Rock on, Piney.

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 1, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting comments from all...

Last year, the defense proved to be more stout than most anyone thought they would be (#2 in yards allowed) and yet, nobody will look back and ever say it was The Year of Defense…because it wasn’t. The defense won’t likely duplicate that feat. They might be better in some areas and worse than others, but they were pretty darned good last year.

The offense wasn’t awful last year, and it weasn’t great. I tend to doubt we’ll see a dramatic improvement or decline on offense this year (injuries notwithstanding).

When the football season in Dallas ends with anything less than a bling, we tend to look back on what was our undoing rather than what propelled us.

Part of that is that we’re spoiled by the 5 Blings (self-promoting, I know) we have. Part of it is that we have fan standards that are on a different geometric plane than anyone other than possibly the Steelers.

I love that about us.

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 1, 2010 3:57 PM CDT reply actions  

The day you start settling for less is the day you fall behind.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 1, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think we have to continue to take up that flag and bear it proudly

I know it’s been a long time since our last bling, but we can’t fall prey to the notion that last year was successful.

It was not.

We took steps, but I completely agree with you. The bar has to remain at the pinnacle.

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 1, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

In the NFL, only one team has a truly successful season

The other 31 all suffer disappointment.

The new mantra: No more injuries. No more injuries. Everybody now: NO MORE INJURIES!

by Tom Ryle on Sep 1, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

But there's a lot of fun to be had finding out who that one team is

Oh, how I love the NFL.

The Season of Jerry can’t start soon enough for me.

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 1, 2010 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, no disagreement on that

And here’s hoping Jerry is smiling from ear to ear in February.

The new mantra: No more injuries. No more injuries. Everybody now: NO MORE INJURIES!

by Tom Ryle on Sep 1, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

From a marketing standpoint, what would be the biggest Super Bowl draw?

Dallas vs. Pittsburgh?

Dallas vs. NYJ?

Dallas vs. NE?

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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 1, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dallas vs. NYJ

Pittsburg would bring alot of fans too, but the NY market is so big that it would be HUGE draw.

I happen to be a person that has the belief that the Jets are more likely to tank than Dallas.

The Jets got lucky in the fact that they got to play two teams at the last of the season that weren’t playing for anything. Indy decides to not be little girls and go for it all and the Texans are in the playoffs.

AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.

Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.

by Iron Fist on Sep 1, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree about the Jets. I think their Super Bowl talk is finished before midseason

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by Seanrude on Sep 1, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, really?

Their starting defense looks scary and I love the addition of Holmes and LT.

They don’t have a ton of holes.

And it’s hard not to like Rex Ryan.

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 1, 2010 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's easy...

to not like Mark Sanchez.

AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.

Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.

by Iron Fist on Sep 1, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Sep 3, 2010 2:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

With the Jets, Sanchez just has to be like Eli Manning in 2007

…not like Brees in 2009.

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

But I don't think he has shown that he can perform like that

He was terrible in the regular season last year.

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Sep 3, 2010 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

But he wasn't in the playoffs

…kinda like Eli.

The point is that it’s hard to be THAT bad if you’re seldom asked to take over the game.

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 4, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

He did have two games with 5 interceptions didn't he?

Don’t forget that the Jets only had a 9-7 record, and only made it into the finals because Indy and Cincy rested their starters against them in the last two rounds.

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Sep 4, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eli's SB winning team was 10-6

Why is that one game difference such a big deal to you when juxtaposing the two?

And since you brought up INT’s, here’s something else to chew on;

Sanchez threw 20 INT’s last year.

In 2007, Eli threw…wait for it…20 INT’s.

BTW, no, he only hit that magic 5 INT # in one game.

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 5, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Jets were 9-7

but should have been 7-9. Sanchez played very badly, and word out of training camp is that he is still struggling.

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Sep 5, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Romo isn't?

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by 5Blings on Sep 6, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Romo has proved that he can play at an elite level

Completely different situations as yo are well aware.

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Sep 6, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Right

The guy played a full season as a starter at 22 years of age.

Saying he didn’t have a rookie season like Marino is meaningless.

Remember how badly you beat up Eli before he won it all in 2007?

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by 5Blings on Sep 6, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just because he played at 22

Doesn’t mean that he has proven he is a capable NFL QB. I’m not saying he won’t in the future, but to trust the Jets with him at QB is unreasonable.

You have to agree with me soon, we are getting pretty close to the far right of the page.

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Sep 7, 2010 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I bet Michigan blows out ND

HA!

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by 5Blings on Sep 8, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well,

When that doesn’t happen, I’ll assume I won this argument.

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Sep 8, 2010 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't compare sanchez to Eli

hes still got a ways to go there.

Sanchez was AWFUL last year…Even in his first couple years, I remember Eli always played well against us. Hes never been the most accurate qb, and he can be rattled, but Sanchez had more meltdowns last year than Eli has had in his career.

by foyesboys on Sep 5, 2010 3:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Roughly 10 QB rating points separated them

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by 5Blings on Sep 5, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I guess Eli was really terrible in 2004...

I don’t really remember that. His rating was REALLY bad that year, though I seem to remember that team being a mess. They still beat us in the last game of the season

10 points is significant. Its what separates the great qbs from the average, the average from the crappy, an the crappy from Freeman, Sanchez and Quinn….

and then there’s Jamarcus Russell.

by foyesboys on Sep 5, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not always

…because when you’re talking ratings of 74 vs. 64, the words ‘great’ and ‘average’ haven’t entered into the conversation.

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by 5Blings on Sep 6, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

They won last year in spite of Sanchez, and Tomlinson for Thomas Jones is a serious downgrade

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by Seanrude on Sep 2, 2010 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just to clear...

LT isn’t replacing Jones, Shonn Greene is. LT is going to be a change of pace back.

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by Iron Fist on Sep 2, 2010 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tomlinson is goi ng to be what Eddie George was in Dallas: Washed up

The Jets D is excellent, but the offense scares no one, and as someone pointed out, if they did not play teams mailing it in the last two games of the season, they don’t make the playoffs.

I really believe a lot of the hype is due to Rex Ryan’s Barnum like personality. THe guy is a quote machine and is fun to be around so the press loves him

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by Seanrude on Sep 2, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

They needed someone who could take the swing pass and do something with it

I think Tomlinson can do that.

Also, IF is correct. It’s not Tomlinson for Jones. Greene will be the bell cow back (I think we went over this already, didn’t we????) and LT will be in there on passing downs and such.

Maybe you are right about the press. He is certainlly more animated than most NFL coaches.

But how can you deny that he built an outstanding defense in Baltimore and has done the same on a much bigger stage in New York now?

Give the guy his due.

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by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wheere did I deny that he built great defenses?

Every year there is a team that gets undeserved hype. This year it is the Jets in my opinion. We’ll see soon enough.

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by Seanrude on Sep 2, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

You said the hype is mainly because Rex is a quote machine

I said that maybe the hype is because he is a damned good defensive coach and that they didn’t swap Jones for LT as you suggested earlier.

They have a very solid roster and that their hype is more deserved than maybe you were giving them credit for.

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by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let me clarify

I was in no way diminishing Ryan’s skills as a coach. He interviewed in Dallas when Parcells left, and I wanted the Cowboys to hire him. Saying that Ryan is an affable, brash quote machine does not mean the guy can’t coach. When he said he was not hired to “kiss Bill Belichick’s ring” I jumped out of my seat, and i don’t give a crap about the Jets. Hell, I want to go pussytubing, and that is the fictional Rex Ryan saying that.

The Jets went 9-7 last year and I think 8-8 the year before (too lazy to look it up) with essentially the same team, except LT in place of Thomas Jones. Whatever role LT is going to play on the Jets, he is a downgrade, as I believe the guy is washed up, finito, kaput. I could be wrong about that, but I don’t think anyone is going to be much on that.

In my view, Ryan’s 1st year with the Jets is like Parcells’ 1st year with the Cowboys. New Sherriff in Town, the players get in line, and the team sneaks up on some people, overachieves a little bit. Second year, no more sneaking up on anyone, and the record reflected it.

I disagree that the Jets roster is very solid. They have some good to great players, especially on defense, but they are going to have trouble scoring with a mediocre (at best) QB, overrated receivers, and a running game that is Greene and a washed up future hall of famer. Some good O Linemen I will grant you. Put that O Line in Dallas and the Cowboys steamroll through the NFC.

Again I could be wrong, but we will find out soon enough

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by Seanrude on Sep 3, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for clarifying

He won’t be there a full season, but I think you are going to see some special plays from Santonio Holmes.

Their O-line is everything ours isn’t.

How do you REALLY feel about LT?

:-)

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by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

But I do love Rex Ryan, great coach and the best KSK character ever

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by Seanrude on Sep 2, 2010 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

His demeanor reminds me of Michael Irvin

Fun to watch, but you better work hard and do it right or he will be in your grill.

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by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

with a healthy and happy revis

yes its scary good. Otherwise, I don’t think its better than ours. Which is still really good I guess

by foyesboys on Sep 2, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Minus Revis, plus Cromartie (who has looked good) and Kyle Wilson

That secondary is still good.

What people fail to realize is just how much better the return of Kris Jenkins makes them….

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by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is an interesting question

I would rank matchups as:

1. Dallas vs NYJ. Ratings dream.

2. Dallas vs Pittsburgh. The history. Blings vs Blings. (Excuse me while I spit on a picture of Jackie Smith.)

3. Dallas vs New England. For the pregame show, Kim Kardashian could Jello wrestle Giselle Bundchen. And maybe the half time. And a little post game.

4. Dallas vs Indianapolis. How many would tune in to hope Peyton gets beat again?

and finally 5. Dallas vs Oakland. Just ’cause everyone would freak about the Raiders being in it.

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by Tom Ryle on Sep 1, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good God
  1. just gave me the giggles

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by Iron Fist on Sep 1, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pitt

Theres soo much history and so much non football related intrigue.

Personally, I just want to see our defenders smash Roetlisberger’s face in. And Romo to get payback for the worst performance of his career.

by foyesboys on Sep 1, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

You wouldn't rate

the Ravens game over that one? At least we had some control at PIT…

Pardon me, I’m going to go puke for thinking about that season…

If the Cowboys lose to McNabb in Week 1, I am drinking myself into a coma.

by Rat-Pack on Sep 2, 2010 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

What would you say are Romo's 3 worst games?

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by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pittsburg 08, 1st Giants game 09, Buffao 07

Fulton Greenwall: Perhaps we should slow down just a teensy-weensy bit?
Ace Ventura: Nonsense, poopy-pants.

by I am a Romosexual on Sep 2, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

buffalo 07?

no way dispite everything he still lead them on back to back scoring drives to win the game.

Really?! Really?!

by thebigham on Sep 2, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn't it really a tale of two halves for Romo?

The onsides kick recovery is the most memorable play of that game for me. Tony Curtis?

Funny too that the game ended on a 53-yard FG from Folk (was that his longest?)…

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by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

i know so clutch

idk what happened

Really?! Really?!

by thebigham on Sep 2, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

One of the weirdest collapses in football

To go from those two kicks at Buffalo to what we saw at the end. Just mystifying.

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by Tom Ryle on Sep 2, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still say so much of it was the injury

…and the ensuing loss of confidence.

PK’s gotta have a swagger!

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by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

the D kept us in that game

But noone would of faulted Romo for packing it in. He had a horrible day it happens. But he stuck to it and lead an unbelievable drive then converts the 2pt and then gets the team in FG range after the onside. Amazing

Really?! Really?!

by thebigham on Sep 2, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that for the foreseeable future, that will be my favorite Cowboys memory of all time. I am too young to really remember the 90’s glory days and as sweet as last years’s wild-card victory and the Saints victory were they have nothing on the pure emotion of that Buffalo game (although the end of the Saints game was close). After Folk nailed the second kick I literally ran around my house screaming and I can still remember the faces of my Cowboys-hater friends when we talked about the game the next day.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 2, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully though a Super Bowl win this year replaces that memory as my favorite.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 2, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was there

definitely one of the most awesome experiences of my life

by foyesboys on Sep 2, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

You were at the game in Buffalo???

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by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

the only cowboys game I've ever been too

and it probably took months off my lifespan. I was going to school in NY and my friend’s dad is a sportswriter in buffalo and had tickets right behind the cowboys bench…it was awesome. The atmosphere was nuts, like a college game.

I just remember time after time after time the defense or special teams bailed us out, and every time the Bills were about to put the nail in the coffin, we somehow stayed alive. It looked like we had lost the game at least 8 different times in that fourth, and the Bills fans went totally bonkers each time.

by foyesboys on Sep 2, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

You are the only person I’ve ever spoken to who was there.

It had to be amazing in that environment since Buffalo didn’t get many Monday Night games.

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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

they were rabid

I don’t even know how to describe it. The stadium was shaking. If we didn’t win that game, or make a serious comeback,I think it would’ve had a really bad effect on Romo’s psyche – the last two quarters of that game were filled with Romo chants, and they were absolutely in his head.

by foyesboys on Sep 3, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that game has had a lasting impact on that franchise

The Bills and their fans still have to be stinging from that game even in a way the Super Bowl losses don’t.

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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 4, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

I won’t count the Eagles game in 08 where he hurt his thumb and his accuracy was obviously affected.

by foyesboys on Sep 2, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep...

It’s the same thing that I told JimmyK after the Eagles beatdown when he came for his crow. Essentially I said why celebrate so vociferously a game that if we lose the next week means next to nothing. Wild card wins are great and kept me smiling that week but if that is where you want to be than you shouldn’t be a fan of a team with 5 Super Bowls under its belt.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 1, 2010 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

You mean 5 Blings....

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by 5Blings on Sep 1, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha yes

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 2, 2010 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

here is the bubble buster

can the kicker kick when it counts

by 0k on Sep 2, 2010 1:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Good read

I personally would vehemently disagree that the Cowboys have the best cast of skill position players in league, but I don’t want to get too hung ip on that.

Not sure if you inquired about writing for the site, but you should.

by JimmyK on Sep 2, 2010 5:50 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Thanks

I couldn’t bring myself to sacrifice the ability to opine, unencumbered, and challenge the myopeia that I encounter as a poster.

To that end, and referent to your vehement disagreement, can you provide some more meat around that? who do you think has a better cast of skill players?

While you’re thinking about it, here’s what I considered within those position groups;

WR: Austin, RW, Crayton and Dez (obviously, the order in which I listed them is unimportant)

TE: Witten, Telly B, Phillips (injured)

RB: Barber, Jones, Choice

QB: Romo, Kitna, McGee (but we’ll know more about that after tonight)

Maybe you could make an argument about the Saints or Vikes at certain spots, but overall, I found no equal in terms of talent and depth.

Your turn…

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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Off the top of my head...

Saints, Vikes (w/Rice), Packers, Colts, Pats, maybe more.

by JimmyK on Sep 2, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

so ... saints and packers

because of injuries, the vikes are really hurting at WR (rice + harvin)
because of welkers status, pats are questionable at WR and no top-tier TE.
colts haven’t had a running game in a while.
holdout with VJ have knocked the chargers down a peg.

houston, baltimore, atlanta, and maybe philly are the only other close ones.

by fuji1232 on Sep 2, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think your opinion might change dramatically after this year

depending on what Dez and MartyB do (because if those two come through there would be no more complete team at all the respectable skill positions).

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 2, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hang on...

Saints RB’s don’t measure up. They don’t have a WR as good as Miles, much less the depth that Dallas has. (Meachem and Colston may be a better pair than our top 2, but it goes downhill after that). TE is a miss for them. They have a better QB.

Vikes don’t have a TE worth discussing. I think their WR’s are on par. They have AP, but they don’t go 3 deep at RB and lost a lot with Chester Taylor’s departure. Now the backup is a nobody. Favre had a career year but Romo is now the better QB if you assume Brett cannot duplicate that success.

Packers would be the closest IF you believe the hype about Jermichael Finley. I take our RB’s over Grant, Jackson and Lumpkin. Rodgers is probably viewed by most as the better of the QB’s, but it would be splitting hairs until one of them wins a bling. Here’s the question that decides it for me; would you take James Jones and Jordy Nelson over Patrick Crayton and Dez Bryant? I wouldn’t. In a VERY close battle, Cowboys win.

Colts have the QB, close at TE (and maybe I am giving Dallas Clark too much credit) but we win a close one there because of our proven depth (can anyone name the backup TE in Indy?) and WR is neck and neck. But they lose the RB battle by a mile as long as they can’t get 4 YPC out of Addai and Brown.

Pats far and away have the QB and barely so the WR’s (but not by much since their #3 is better and our #4 is better). Dallas owns the RB battle and the TE contest isn’t one. Dallas wins another close one.

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Sep 2, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Weird.. The body of the post didn’t appear. Annoying.

by JimmyK on Sep 2, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyway… I think you’re overrating your own guys. Why is Martellus Bennett even in the conversation? He has done nothing in this league. Nothing. Plus, the #2 WR is pure garbage, and although there’s no doubt good depth at RB, I could argue that none of the 3 would start on more than half the teams in the NFL.

by JimmyK on Sep 2, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Our number 2

who will be the third guy by the end of the season, arguably had a better season that the hyped Jeremy Maclin. He is hardly pure garbage, but rather the fourth option in the passing attack. About the running backs, I strongly disagree. Our third guy could start on half a dozen teams.

I think you’re underrating the players of a division rival.

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Sep 3, 2010 2:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

arguably had a better season that the hyped Jeremy Maclin.

Haha, are you serious?

by JimmyK on Sep 3, 2010 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

He did score more touchdowns

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Sep 3, 2010 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maclin barely played at all Weeks 1 and 2, missed Weeks 14 and 15, and yet here’s how they finished…

Maclin – 63 catches, 919 yards, 5 TD
Williams – 43 catches, 655 yards, 7 TD

And not that I should even need to remind you of this, but Maclin was a rookie.

by JimmyK on Sep 3, 2010 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

As I said

more touchdowns :)

My main point is that Williams isn’t really “just garbage”. He is actually quite a solid player if you ignore the trade that brought him here, and simply assess him as the fourth option in the passing attack.

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Sep 3, 2010 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haha, come on now. I thought you guys were past defending this guy.

by JimmyK on Sep 3, 2010 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions