Fearless Season Prognostication: Does Cowboys' Elite Talent Trump O-line Woes?
[Ed Note: As you will see below, rabblerousr has become our resident pessimist. It doesn't mean I dismiss what he's saying, I just prefer to look on the sunny-side of the street until proven wrong. So my 'Fearless Season Prognostication' prediction is 11-5 and another NFC East crown for our 'Boys. Now, proceed on to read rabblerousr's prediction, and sharpen your pitchforks! - Dave]
Rabblerouser: one that stirs up (as to hatred or violence) the masses of the people: demagogue.
An examination of the comments section following our first Pickin' and Grinnin' post of the year, in which I chose the Redskins over the Cowboys, will confirm that I am definitely living up to my chosen moniker. Hatred? Check. Violence? I dunno; it could be on the horizon, after this here season prediction post. To determine whether you, the Cowboys-lovin' masses, want to grab the nearest torch or pitchfork and storm Castle Rabble, read on.
At about this time last year--as my buddy, Big Melly, a fellow Cowboys fan in Eagles country, can confirm--I predicted that the Cowboys would go 12-4 and capture a division championship. I based this largely on a series of offseason moves designed to cultivate a roster filled with singularly focused players. This had been confirmed by all the reports from training camp, and then again by the demeanor of the team in preseason games. Despite stumbling out of the early-season gate, the Cowboys were indeed a much more focused and cohesive unit; this particularly began to manifest during the late season push and two stompings of the despised Fecals Eagles (which still, as I remember them, bring a smile).
A couple of weeks ago, Big Melly asked for another prediction. My response was two-fold. After the break, I'll expound upon each of these two strands of thought.
First, a bold statement: I believe this is the deepest and most talented Cowboys team that I have seen in some time, perhaps ever. At almost every position, Jerry, Stephen, Tom Ciskowski and the other front office folks have built a roster that is two- or three-deep in legit NFL-starting caliber talent.
A quick comparison with the 90s Cowboys will, I hope, illustrate my point. This team's depth is particularly evident at the offensive skill positions. Although I wouldn't dream of trading Romo, Austin or any of our RBs for one of the Hall of Fame triplets, I would take this team's skill position depth over that of any of Jimmy Johnson's teams. Think abut it: would you rather have Martellus Bennett or Alfredo Roberts? Dez Bryant or Kelvin Martin? Felix Jones and Tashard Choice or the two Derricks, Lassic and Gainer?
And, even though those 90s Cowboys were fathoms deep on defense, I think this squad's depth is equal to the comparative task. I'd take this squad's CB depth (who do you like, Orlando Scandrick or Clayton Holmes?) call the LBs and DEs a wash (counting Ware and Spencer as DEs for the purpose of this camparison) and give the triple-champs the edge at DT (I'd rank Rat right up there with Lett, who had two Hall of Fame years before flaming out, but the 90s teams had sooo much depth here) and safety (less because of depth, which I'd rank about even, but because this team has no Darren Woodson).
In short, this team is stacked, and compares favorably with one of the greatest teams this sport has seen--in all positions save one. I can't say I'd take a single offensive lineman on this team over one from the 90s. Doug Free vs. Mark Tuinei? Maybe the 2013 version of Free, but not this one. Leonard Davis vs. a young Larry Allen? Are you kidding me?; I'm not sure I'd take Leonard over Kevin Gogan. And I'm pretty sure I'd rather have Frank Cornish than Phil Costa.
This brings me to my second strand of thought: this team will go as far as the offensive line can take them. In recent years, as media pundits have been so quick to remind us (and again, and again), the Cowboys have bogged down in December. The lion's share of blame for this has fallen on Tony Romo's shoulders. Certainly, his QB rating dipped late in 2007 and 2008; but a reasonably close examination of the mitigating factors behind this will reveal that this is largely because his protection had fallen off considerably. From my view, the '07 and '08 O-lines got tired and/ or beat up at the end of those seasons and offensive production fell off considerably as a result.
Last year, they seemed to drink a refreshing late-season elixir--at least until the Minny game, when they hastily reverted to old form. Perhaps this resurgence happened because of the injection of youth provided by Free; maybe Hudson Houck earned every cent of his paycheck. Whatever the case, they performed well in December and January for the first time in the Wade Phillips/ Jason Garrett era. To my mind, the burning question for 2010 is: was 2009 an aberration, or the beginning of a new trend?
The view from the starting gate is less than thrilling. Marc Columbo, the spiritual leader of the line (and by spiritual, I mean the one most likely to hit someone wearing another jersey in the throat), and Kyle Kosier, the most nimble and cerebral member of the fraternity, are both out. This line can probably survive the loss of one lineman, but not two. While this is certainly bad news for the Redskins game, if such multiple injury woes become a recurring trend, we risk having nightmarish flashbacks to 2005 (remember Torrin Tucker and Rob Petitti?) and the Cowboys will rely on defense and special teams to scratch together wins.
So, we have two competing narratives for the 2010 season: 1) the Cowboys' talent and depth give them a significant advantage, especially over the length of an NFL season, during which the bulk of a 53-man roster is called into action, and 2) a suspect offensive line will plague them to such a degree that their talent advantage is often, if not usually, compromised. Depending on which of these you subscribe to, you're looking at a 12-4 division champion or, depending on how lingering the O-line injury problems prove to be, a middling 9-7 to 7-9 squad. Given my introductory gambit, you may be sensing which way I'm leaning.
But before making my bold prediction, allow me briefly to defer to our resident numbersmith, O.C.C. In his brilliant "Gridiron Academy" post a while back, he opined that, according to O-ring Theory, an otherwise equal production process (i.e., a collective entity such as a football team) is only as strong as its weakest link. Applying this to the offensive line, he postulated what he termed "The O-line Conundrum":
The four theories above all assume an upward trajectory of each player's quality and performance. But what if there is a drop-off in a player's performance? Following O-ring theory logic, a decline in the play of one Cowboys offensive lineman would have a knock-on effect on all the other linemen, the extra TE's needed for blocking assignments, a more nervous QB etc., etc. This would not be a good place to be in, so here's hoping the coaches have plans in place that would ensure a consistently high quality of the O-line.
The fearsome possibility to which O.C.C. gestures is that it might not matter how many Pro-Bowl caliber skill position players the Cowboys possess; the offense will play to the level of its weakest O-lineman. At present, we have two candidates for this honor, Montrae Holland and Alex Barron, each of whom can contribute to breakdowns in his own inimitable way. When the starters return, sending these gents back to the bench, there will be any number of candidates--anyone, really, other than Free and Kosier--for weakest link. The upshot is this: I'm not a numbers guy, but I do specialize in the nuances of group dynamics and I find O.C.C.'s theory very persuasive. As such, I'm going to subscribe to it until proven wrong.
And believe me, I WANT to be proven wrong. I want to eat my words and suffer the collective mockery of Cowboys Nation. I want the Cowboys to open the season with a stunningly easy 38-10 victory and sustain that throughout the season. This doesn't mean that my heart's not rooting for 13-3 and home-field advantage. It is. But my head just doesn't trust the offensive line enough to take such a stand. I see these two narratives engaging in a season-long cage match down to the very last contest, the week 17 tilt against the hated (and, ooohhh, how I do mean hated) Eagles. Depending on the outcome of that game, I say we're looking at 9-7or 10-6 and a wild-card berth.
Okay, ya'll, consider yourself roused: cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war...
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Wow
What an in depth piece of writing. It’s hard to believe that people like rabblerousr aren’t writing for the big time. Articles like this are why I frequent this site so often. I liked rafael vela but rabble has won me over…
by Cknbonenowison on Sep 11, 2010 10:12 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Thanks!
Given that Raf is my hero, this feels like the high praise.
by rabblerousr on Sep 12, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Funny ting about these games against the Skins...
seldom does it ever go down the way people expect it to go down.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I am expecting a very hard-fought win
Does that mean it’s going to be a walk in the park?
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by accidental innuendo on Sep 11, 2010 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I've given up trying to predict these...
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I'm with you. I've seen the Redskins beat us with bench warmers and retreads. Even when we're healthy and
at full power, somehow the Redskins can suit up a Pop Warner team and beat us. Well, It’s not that bad, but we can play down to the level of the competition at times.
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+1
we definitely play down to lesser teams, talent-wise, from time to time.
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Very brave, rouser.
And I couldn’t agree more. So this Sunday I’ll be on my knees praying to the patron saint of offensive lineman on behalf of Barron and Holland.
So will Tony Romo
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Well, at that point, you'd have to guess the prayers weren't answered
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Thanks, Johnny
I’m gonna be on my knees as well, praying to Saint Landry…
by rabblerousr on Sep 12, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
A 9-7 Prediction isn't just stirring the pot
This team has the ability to finish anywhere from 12-4 to 8-8, this team is completely capable of finishing anywhere in that range.
We all want to remember the team that knocked the Saints off their undefeated perch in their own home. And we’re still that team.
But this team is also the team that, with its back to the wall, needing a win to get ahead in the division, promptly lost to the Giants and Chargers back-to-back. And we’re still that team too.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 11, 2010 10:21 PM CDT reply actions
I agree
Felix needs holes, and Romo needs time to throw the ball. The rest of the offense is only as good as its offensive line.
This could be a wasted year if the o-line can’t hold its own.
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If it's a wasted year, I can deal with it
My Buckeyes are going to the national title this year anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 11, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Not if Boise State kicks you out
Oh wait, VT lost to an FCS team
Although I'm not a Jets fan, and most certainly not a USC fan, I'll root for any team that Mark Sanchez plays for. Mark Sanchez for Superbowl MVP and President 2012. The change that only I can believe in.
Agree, and projecting down the road,
I think we could be looking at more than a wasted YEAR. Think about what needs to be done. Let’s say Free is the real deal and will only get better. I’ll even be generous and say that someone between Costa, Young, and Brewster can develop into a servicable O-lineman. How is this team going to have any consistency next year if we replace 2 or more linemen? If we do it one at a time, we deal with several years of mediocrity as 1 or more positions remain the weakest link. Still think we blew it by not using a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a quality prospect in each of the previous 3 years at least until we knew we hit on 1 or 2.
If Mankins is indeed in play
It will really benefit the Cowboys to see Barron and Holland have decent games tonight. Otherwise, they may as well not try because the asking price will be ridiculous.
As is, I feel a second rounder would be fair. Thoughts?
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by accidental innuendo on Sep 12, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Honestly...
It seems like 10-6 or 11-5 is a definite possibility and either should be enough to not only get into the playoffs but likely win the division as well. I don’t see the NFC East being dominated by any team and it’s going to be tough fight down to the very end.
This schedule just appears to be way, way too tough to expect anything better than 11-5. Is a better record possible? Of course. I also think 9-7 means a monumental collapse happened along the way.
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by Brandon Worley on Sep 11, 2010 10:28 PM CDT reply actions
I agree whole heartedly
I’ve said this before. Our team goes as far as our o-line takes us. Everything else is in place: Receivers, Backs, QB, Tight end, Defense (with slight questions at safety). If Romo has time he can do anything. . . If felix or barber or choice has a decent hole? Watch out. No blocking? Romo is most likely on his back or throwing a pick, No hole? Runs are stuffed. Injury on the o line will make or break this team. I seriously see Jerry dropping the majority of pics on O-line next year regardless of best available. if there even is a draft : /
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by I am a Romosexual on Sep 11, 2010 10:29 PM CDT reply actions
Amazing post by the way, props
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Ace Ventura: Nonsense, poopy-pants.
by I am a Romosexual on Sep 11, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Dallas Point Scored in Washington, Starting in 2000
27, 20, 14, 27, 21, 7, 19, 6, 14, 17
Over the last five seasons: Average of 12.6.
Over the last ten seasons: Average of 17.2.
We have extreme trouble scoring against the Redskins. I expect tomorrow night to be about the same.
Back it up a sec
You talk as if Kosier and Colombo are lost for the season. Most likely, one will be back for Game 2, and both should be healthy and raring to go for Game 3, which comes right before the bye week.
And while you acknowledge that the starters will eventually return, I feel like you don’t give them due credit as a unit. I mean, we’re not talking chopped liver here. They’re average — not horrible, but okay. Teams like the Steelers have shown that an average line can still take you places. While Roethlisberger can take a lot more punishment, I have faith in the elusiveness of Tony Romo.
Plus, technically, it’s still the offseason. We haven’t even seen how Holland and Barron will do. Let’s wait until after the Skins game to push the panic button, if we’re so inclined.
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by accidental innuendo on Sep 11, 2010 10:52 PM CDT reply actions
im in your camp
There’s no point in bothering to get out of bed according to the chicken little philosophy
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by dcfansinceiwasababy on Sep 11, 2010 10:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Completely agreed.
I understand that the long term prognosis of the offensive line is very…well….unknown and a bit scary at this point. But while the five starters are aging and not exactly the best in the NFL, those five aren’t the worst either. I also feel that while for this first game (and possibly the second) the in-game depth is very, very scary the long term depth for the season isn’t exactly horrible. I have faith in Barron, even though we haven’t seen him for an entire game at one position yet. Let’s see what happens this weekend before jumping to ultimate conclusions.
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by Brandon Worley on Sep 11, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Long term, you got me
I’m ready to panic. I am disheartened year after year that the front office ignores the O Line. In fact, this team does have a window, and it is highly dependent upon the success of the current group.
So the only solution I can think of is another high-priced FA that comes in replace, most likely, Davis. And with all the other guys that need to be signed, it’s going to be a tough proposition. Carpet bombing the draft next year still means there’s a year or two, at least, before we reap the fruits of that investment.
Meanwhile, Tony gets older…and it really all does come down to him.
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by accidental innuendo on Sep 11, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Tony is in the prime of his career
And doesn’t have the wear and tear some QB’s his age has.
On one hand, I wish the Cowboys would have addressed the O-line in the first two rounds, but then you see how the players that were picked have become impact players for the Cowboys.
That disastrous 2006 draft notwithstanding.
Last year’s draft was tough though, especially seeing how J Williams is struggling. That’s going to be the hardest one to swallow in the long run, I think.
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by Brandon Worley on Sep 11, 2010 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Then again.
Right now, we have the potential for a future RG and future C on the team, although they’re certainly a few years out. Brewster really impressed me as the preseason progressed and I thought Sam Young certainly showed his being drafted wasn’t as big a waste as some said at the time.
I think, for the first time in a while, the (very) young backup linemen actually somewhat, very grudgingly excite me. Just a bit.
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by Brandon Worley on Sep 11, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
That is the most encouraging aspect of our o-line at the moment
Its nice to have 3 young guys in the fold who are all improving. There’s nothing worse than seeing an aging o-line and having guys like Proctor and McQ behind them.
Interesting that you’ve already resigned to Brewster at OG? He seemed to do fine at RT, but if Young is coming along, than OG would seem to be a good spot.
It probably won’t happen because Barron and Holland will likely be the only backups active, but I’d like to see the young guys get some snaps through the year to help along their growth.
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by cowboysuberfan on Sep 12, 2010 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I Think Their Body Types
Lend themselves to the positions the coaches are projecting them to. Brewster is 6’-4", 320, Young is 6’-8", 322. All things being equal, you want the shorter guy in the inside for better leverage and to improve the QBs visibility. But I agree with you that the coaching staff needs to do whatever works best, so if it makes sense to flip the positions, they should do it.
Like you, also hope the young guys get some seasoning along the way, without having to be thrown in because of injury, of course.
The interesting thing is,
they didn’t stash Young on IR for the roster spot like they could have with his knee.
Does that mean they intend for him to have some playing time later? Or that they think they might need him avaliable more than they thought they needed to keep McCann?
Tony is not a big guy, and he takes a lot of punishment because he tries to keep the play alive. He is in undoubtedly entering his prime, but I wonder about his shelf life under the circumstances.
It’s just odd to see Jerry throw so much money at Tony and then not invest in keeping him standing.
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by accidental innuendo on Sep 12, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
@accidental innuendo
One line of thought that I didn’t include was this: there are rumblings among scouting types that Columbo isn’t just injured, but done—as in, he’s fallen off the career cliff, and lost enough that he’s now a liability. He was definitely getting beaten a LOT in camp. Could have been the knee, but…
by rabblerousr on Sep 12, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Great write-up. Sadly true. Frustratingly accurate.
After reading it I feel like the guy who heard the doctor say, “The good news is you’ll be dead in 24 hours. The bad news is I was supposed to tell you yesterday!”
Calm down guys. Kosier and Colombo haven't entered the priesthood for crying out loud. They'll be back.
I predict Cowboys 24, Redskins 10.
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yeah so basically
we will have back the same O-line we had for the majority of the Viking`s playoff game!!!!no wonder I can`t sleep!
I'm interested if Jerry will make some roster moves after tomorrows game.
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I think it shows how rational most of the people who post here are
that nobody is sharpening their axe to storm castle rabble. Excellent post. I’ve been saying 9-7 or 10-6 with this schedule as well. Listening to Sirius Radio and hearing Adam Schein keep bleating that we will miss the playoffs pisses me off, but I can’t shake that concern about the O-line getting Romo killed, and I have to admit he might be right. Kitna is used up, Brad Johnson used up, so if Romo misses any time at all, I think we can call it right there. I feel good about Free, but the decline in Gurode and Davis is obvious, and with Columbo’s injury history I don’t foresee getting more than 8-10 games out of him. I pray that I am wrong. I do believe we will win tomorrow night, and I said 23-14 earlier but I think its going to be closer and lower scoring. 16-13 Boys.
my axe is still in the shed
But if he is right and we blow this game and this season my 92 yearold grandmother and I will hunt him down for jinxing us.
All kidding aside we are still the the clutches of the offseason for a little over half a day. I’m looking forward to real game analysis and 4 quarters of film on this makeshift oline.
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by InkedKing on Sep 12, 2010 3:19 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
We better tell his mama
Geez I can’t believe what I’m hearing. Cowboys are going to win I tell ya and JW will stay in and protect his BFF.
Martellus will have a break out game and Dez will return a punt for a touchdown. Buehler will kick 4 field goals, one from 55 yards straight down the center and Felix Jones will return a KO to the Washington 25 or thereabouts 2 times. Ware and Spencer will sack McNabb a total of 6 times and Jenkins will intercept the ball twice.
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by dcfansinceiwasababy on Sep 12, 2010 12:26 AM CDT reply actions
Personally I hope that JW has a monster Game
mostly because i have him in a couple of Fantasy leagues
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by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Sep 12, 2010 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I wish I could be that optimistic...
But, on the other hand: From your lips to St. Landry’s ear!
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My Question is this
Other than not trading for Roy E. Williams what could the Cowboys have done Differently? Because from what I remember(Though i do suffer from C.R.S.S.) i dont think the Cowboys could have drafted any better than they have. It is one thing to say we should have drafted better O-line who could they have drafted and still have the depth that they have today in all of the other positions?
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by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Sep 12, 2010 12:26 AM CDT reply actions
Loadholt
instead of J Williams was what I wanted.
Yep, Vollmer would have been nice too.
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Man, I completely forgot about that one.
That makes me even madder in addition to Unger and Oher.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Especially since Loadholt wouldn't have required a trade-up like Unger would have...
and could have just been straight up drafted where the Cowboys were sitting before they traded out. Makes absolutely no sense.
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Loadholt did not look very good at all in the Vikes Saints game
He was getting beat on the right and he grabbed his man by the facemask multiple times. Then when McKinnie went down, he moved to the left and was struggling just as much as well. He would be better than nothing like we got, but I’m still not sold on the guy
by JLMax09 on Sep 12, 2010 8:25 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It normally takes a lot of O-linemen a couple of years.
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I've been thinking about a post on this theme...
…so I don’t want to give it away, but: they have been realllllly unlucky, in that there have been several players in the past four drafts who they liked at OL who were scooped up just a couple of picks before the Cowboys drafted. The obvious example is the Max Unger debacle in 2009, but there are others. And, as Parcells used to say, you need to be lucky as well as god…
by rabblerousr on Sep 12, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I think Rebels' post refers to the season as a whole
not just the Redskins game. If history holds true to form, we’re not going to blow them up but I do expect a win. Long term may be a different story. We do have one of the worst schedules I’ve seen in a long time..it’s back-loaded though. In other words, I’m not worrying a whole lot about tomorrow night or the next few games. I’m trusting in red headed Jesus and Wade to get us started off right. It will be the end of the season that determines our fate one way or another..
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it might be the hour...
it might be the beer, and could very well be both, but as nervous as i’ve been about this season opener, i am starting to feel good (beer) about it. for one thing, the past means nothing, especially when it comes to these two teams. secondly, i’ve just come to the conclusion that, since the ‘bowl is in jerry’s house this year that if o-line was such a concern for us to achieve our goals in 2010, we’d have made a big acquisition or two to improve that unit. i mean, come on, jerry got an ego, plus he’s got advisors. now, granted we have two back ups starting tomorrow (i think barron and holland will do fine), the beer in me says we go into washington and come out with a nice, happy “w.” 24-16, dallas, goign away. buuurp…..
First, I wanted to say
this is a great post. I agree with almost everything.
I think your prediction is a very reasonable pessimistic prediction. The wheels are unlikely to fall off for this team – there is too much talent on the defensive side, and the offensive skill positions will be able to get us a few wins even if the line is sub-par.
But the offensive line is a huge concern. Even healthy, this group is going to get creamed by some of the Ds we face. I think we are anywhere from 9-7 to 12-4….
9-7 I can see if these injuries lead to a loss in this first game and the lines preseason play ends up being a good indicator of the regular season. And maybe something would need to happen like either Philly or Washington end up with a legitimate pass rush by seasons end, giving us a loss.
12-4 I can see if we grind out wins these first two weeks, the Eagles and Redskins struggle with youth/change to 3-4 throughout the year, and this defense really lights it up.
I’ll say 11-5 for now.
I like this guy.
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The Cowboys are going to be fine.
They will sweep the East, win most of the games they should, and pick up two of the GB, IND, MIN, and NO games.
13-3 or 12-4…
Rabblerouser, you are forgetting the intangible that will allow our O-line to play well. They have all been knighted, so they are better warriors.
Seriously, though, they will be fine.
Bring on the Redskins!
by BlueNSilverBlood on Sep 12, 2010 5:27 AM CDT reply actions
I'm clueless
Couldn’t even beat the Skins…
Bring on the Redskins!
by BlueNSilverBlood on Sep 16, 2010 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions
The regular trends have been thrown out in the last 5 years or so
Wild cards winning, #1 seeds going early, pass-happy teams winning in the playoffs etc
Steelers won 2 years ago with a very mediocre line. Big Ben was getting killed for most of the season.
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Good stuff, man.
I find it hard not to agree with everything in this remarkably well written post. You’ve got to wonder though, when all this talent will turn into production. I’m a homer. And I say it happens this year.
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 12, 2010 7:33 AM CDT reply actions
Preach it brother OCC
Oh yeah, Cowboys gonna kick ass today, I FEEL IT
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by dcfansinceiwasababy on Sep 12, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions
especially the part about
your brilliant Football Academy post!
by rabblerousr on Sep 12, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Trades?
Assuming a worst case scenario where Colombo can’t return to form and Barron flops, should a trade for Marcus McNeill be pursued with Free shifting to right tackle? Though it’s not obvious how bringing in a guard would help, the Mankins/Patriots situation isn’t thawing either.
While cohesion is critical for line play, it can’t completely remedy a lack of talent. Maybe there are better trade options than McNeill or Mankins, but if the season heads south early, do we give up the future picks (and the salary) it would take to upgrade immediately, or do we wait for next year?
Remarkable post, RR.
You have a gift. And while I don’t sport the wait and see gene, I think you presented your points well. Here’s the difficulty I have: Back in the days when I was being overwhelmed by an unruly DMN crowd, negative posts from the writers seemed to channel the dark side of the force. Especially after a loss. I was appalled at how plentiful the Cowboy’s fans were who would call for Jerry’s or Wade’s head after their first loss of the season. Even last season following the loss to become 2-2, OMG people were freaking out.
We all hope you are wrong RR, including yourself. But if you’re right, and this season starts to tip in the direction of wasted opportunity, be careful, for you may stir a hornet’s nest, and incite the type of discourse that has never been a trait of this blog. To clarify and restate: If the Cowboys do not do well this season, you could manifest the side of the Cowboys Nation that is not so fun to contend with. They’re out there, and they’re looking for a leader.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.
So there's still a lot you can take from 4 games
People freak out because it is in our nature to panic after a loss. But after that subsides, and you can still spot some negatives that can harm the team down the road, it is unfair for the rainbows and sunshine crowd to completely dismiss those points.
On the other hand, there’s always the possibility that something can change in a big way to change the trajectory of a season. Usually, this is something negative like an injury to a key player. But sometimes, something positive emerges out of the funk, a la Miles Austin 2009, that can improve a team. So nothing is a lost cause, especially after 2-2.
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by accidental innuendo on Sep 12, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
True. Miles Austin was huge.
At 2-2 last season, when the furor began, Romo asked the fans to be patient. He assured us the Cowboys had a plan. He was right. The season was a success. I just believe the Cowboys have a plan again. They would be remiss if they didn’t. Not after learning that important lesson last year.
I don’t discount the point that the o-line could be our undoing. I’ve been saying it for the last 3 seasons, and especially worried about it the last 2. We just never seem to get it right. Nor do I believe RR has any intention beyond concern. I’m just worried about losing this haven of Cowboymania. BTB is an oasis. Ultimately, if this season tips to the negative, I’ll probably join the chorus of panic.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.
Hey y'all
Thought I’d go into enemy territory and see what the fans are saying over at Hogs Haven, see what their feel is for the game. They’ve got a 64 comment thread going on the latest piece and all they can talk about is JJ getting caught on camera picking his nose. Wow. Think I’ll stay here with some grownups. Just wow.
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by dcfansinceiwasababy on Sep 12, 2010 10:20 AM CDT reply actions
It seems most Skins forums are
Intelligent conversation prohibited.
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by accidental innuendo on Sep 12, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Dude they're from the northeast.
The average IQ up there is like 70.
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Both O-lines will be overmatched in the upcoming 'Skins game.
The winner of this game will be the team that forces the most turnovers and takes advantage of them to score TDs.
Yeah for as much problems the cowboys have on the Oline
the Skins have them beat. The Cowboys Oline doesnt have to worry about blocking Spencer Rat and Ware. Maybe Cowboys O doesnt look so hot in this game But we win none the less.
Also what about this. You say 07-09 the december swoon playoff collapses are because of the Oline (I agree to a point) Does it matter that Kyle and Marc got hurt does that mean they are a little more rested so when they come back in week 3 they actually have more games left in the tank and can hold up til Feb?
Really?! Really?!
I was thinking about your second point also
But 10+ straight games after the bye will be tough. Let’s see how they hold up.
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by accidental innuendo on Sep 12, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
What's the over and under for sacks on Mcnabb?
A rookie LT and a not so good O-line, I say 5.
Lock n Load
we win tonight!!
cant wait till game time….
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how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Sep 12, 2010 11:02 AM CDT reply actions
Actually less worried about Barron than I am about Holland
His playing/staring experience is more recent, and he’s more athletic. Romo’s escapability is perfectly suited when facing outside pressure, while pressure up the middle is harder to evade.
Still believe our D can carry the team for these 1st 2 games, especially if it’s as good as we believe it to be. Our ST edge is pronounced as well. Hopefully, both OL Starters will be back for HOU which now looks like a very serious test.
Character is easier kept than recovered
I agree
Holland concerns me more than Barron
by Archie Barberio on Sep 12, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Laron Landry
wanna see a good athlete with horrible technique? Laron Landry watch that guy
by Archie Barberio on Sep 12, 2010 11:38 AM CDT reply actions
Great article, great comments
This is rapidly becoming my favorite football site on the web, thanks to great articles and great comments. Kudos to you all.
The Cowboys could finish anywhere from middle-of-the-road and out of the playoffs, to a three or even two seed. Obviously, injuries are a big unknown for all teams. If Aaron Rogers and Brees go down, we could even sneak up to a one seed. But without an o-line, this team could finish with 7 to 9 wins, probably closer to nine simply because of the talent level on D and the skill positions of the offense. I’d much rather have an A+ offense line and C+ receivers than vice versa. Just ask Marino or Elway. The triplets were wonderful, a trifecta of perfection, guts and will; but none of them would be in the HOF if not for that o-line. Remember, they were a car accident (Erik Williams) away from winning four straight.
Outstanding article, Rabs
and I appreciate the way folks on here agree, for the most part about our season going the way of our OL. Just goes to show the intel of the average fan on BTB. I’ll also go so far as to say we could even finish at 6-10 if our OL play stinks. But believe me, How, Oh How I hope it doesn’t. I hope we are all pleasantly surprised by some great OL play by some of our youngsters, back-ups or original starters. I’d think Jerry would make drafting and/or signing some quality O-linemen the number one priority this offseason. Hopefully, Safety will become a position of strength this year with the talent already aboard.
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by CapnComebackII on Sep 12, 2010 12:16 PM CDT reply actions
I hope you're wrong, but I'm afraid you're right. I don't even have that much
confidence in the starting O line, much less their backups. Tonight will be an interesting test, one I hope Romo survives.
Sorry RabbleRouser ...
but you are only partly right. The Offense will only go as far as the O-Line can take it. You can have the All-Time All-Madden team at the skill positions, but if the line can’t block or even give the play time to develop, all is for naught.
This current Cowboy incarnation is going to go as far as the Defense can take us. I’ve said it other places, but I truly believe the Dallas D will be the superior unit regardless of how the offense plays. To be sure, the offense will light it up and even if they light it up each and every game, I still believe our D will be more dominant.
Like those Cowboy teams of yore, our D will get the O back on the field and might even give them a point cushion. I think the O will eventually wear down the opposing D and have their way with them by the end of the game. We might be trailing at the end of 3, but as long as our D can keep it close, I think the O will be able to close out games.
All reports tells us that the O-Line all like to maul, that is, run block. What better time to unleash the beasts then the 4th quarter? The beasts drive forward, double tight’s chipping and clearing, and Gronk battering a hole for Marion the Barbarian.
I’m saying by the end of the game, the opposing D will feel like they’ve been run over by a convoy. Even if we do lose (which I understand we will; my prediction is 11-5), they’ll not forget what we did to them.
Don’t give me any flak about our safeties. Our front 7 will put so much pressure on the opposing O, the pressure on our DB’s will be greatly reduced. That T-New and Jenkins can play at a high level, quick passes from pressure will be prime targets for INT’s.
Man, I hope I’m right. lol
by Northern Cowboy on Sep 12, 2010 7:00 PM CDT reply actions
season
its gonna be a looooong season for our cowboys

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