Clarity
You may not have wanted to believe what was staring you right in the face before, but now you have no choice. Yeah, this might feel a bit like an 'I Told You So', but so what? In some cases, I DID tell you so and got called out for being negative, a contrarian and all sorts of things. How many of you said you would be panicked if we got out 0-2? How many people pooh pooh'd the poor offensive production in pre-season and drank all the Dalrymple Kool Aid that was being served up?
So first, let's just come to grips with a few things;
We have a dysfunctional coaching staff. Yes, I said it. I won't take it back. It's likely to be THE story of 2010 if things don't get better quickly. Jerry is in a pickle with this one. He's got three choices. Fire Wade, fire Garrett or fire the whole damned lot of them.
We're not mentally tough. This team has faltered every single time the pundits even mentioned our names as Super Bowl candidates going back to the year Quinthy Carther led Dallas to the playoffs. Every year after a good one, Dallas has disappointed.
Our offensive line is, at best, average. In terms of upgrading the personnel there, the group has been overlooked for far too long and those chickens have come home to roost. No 1st rounders in over a decade spent on linemen. Outside of Bigg, no major Free Agent acquisitions to bolster the line. No, this is the recurring nightmare for every Cowboys fan, and tony Romo, plain and simple.
We don't have a freakin' kicker! I know I've said this before and taken a ton of heat for it, but...child please!!! I like David Buehler, but I saw the guy kick in college and no one ever thought of him as the next Jason Elam (for that matter, no one saw him as the next Nick Folk). I think it's long past time to go get Kris Brown in here! Stop trying to convince yourselves that EVERYTHING that comes out of Valley Ranch is right, true or even logical.
We're not physical. Oh sure, we have some players who are feisty. but this team doesn't posses any sort of edge on offense or defense. If Demarcus Ware is the face of our defense, then our defense may scare people because of its athletic ability, but not it's nasty intensity. On offense, if Marc(o) Colombo is the face of that group, then we're probably more bark than bite.
Finally, I have to ask the question. Is Tony Romo all that he's cracked up to be? When this team needs a laser shot to an open WR, it tends to be off target. When it needs a guy on the sideline who can shake off the last play, focus on what needs to be done to fix the problem, and then come out and blast the other team into submission, he hasn't shown he can be the guy. In 2006, it was a wet ball. In 2007, we blamed the O-line. In 2008, it was T.O.'s fault. In 2009, it was late season injuries. so who, other than Tony, gets the blame this year? Garrett? The RB's? At some point, and I credit Iron Fist for asking the question before I had been able to think it through, is Romo a choker?
Okay, so to quote Apollo 13, let's "work the problem".
On the topic of the coaching staff, Jerry needs to sit Wade down and ask him what he wants to do. Clearly, Wade isn't running the team the way most Head Coaches run theirs. He certainly isn't running it the way he would want to. If Wade says clip JG, then clip JG. If he says clip RW, then clip RW. If he says he's done with Campo, so be it. The main thing is that Jerry is going to puree Wade in a blender if the Season of Jerry continues down this path. He needs to give him the authority to turn it around.
Mental toughness comes from being torn down and coming back from it. Obviously, the training camp and off season workouts did not engender that. It is plainly evident that practices are not being conducted in a way that attempts to simulate game conditions and clearly aren't done in a way that prepares the players such that mental errors can be reduced.
Physicality is a mindset. I would look to the line coaches, both on offense and defense to instill a kind of weekly practice regimen that focused on violent, intense execution. They have to be accountable to set the tone for the team here. We've just been pushed around by a team that isn't nearly as good as we made them look.
Finally, I think this is Romo's last hurrah. No, I don't think he is going anywhere this year or anytime soon, but it's likely he'll have a new coordinator next year, a new playbook and a new terminology. If so, given his age and horizon, will he ever be as comfortable and knowledgeable about the system as he is right now after three-plus years running it? I think Romo took a major step forward last year. But if he cannot continue his ascent in terms of how he elevates the play of the offense, he too will become the focus of a kind of negative scrutiny that pales in comparison to his on and off-field miscues of the past. In order to do that, he has to become a more accurate passer in terms of his 1st half throws. He has to stop sulking on the sidelines after a bad play. He has to be more vocal and animated in his leadership of the team on the field. He has to remember that everyone is ALWAYS watching.
I don't think the season is done. Far from it. I think if Jerry does even SOME of the right things, we could do something historic. The problem is that it doesn't get any easier from here. It's time to circle the wagons.
GO COWBOYS!!!
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humble pie
let me be the first to say i’m sorry and i guess you were right. i’m a big man and can and will admit when i’m wrong. i didn’t mean anything by it and sorry for being so vicious before. i just didn’t want to believe it, wanted to stay positive. i tip my hat to you sir, you were definitely right on and i was wrong again.
it's called a satchel and indiana jones wears one.
Thanks, but you don't owe me anything...
Do you think we can dig ourselves out of this hole?
I do!!!
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
There's some truth in that
…but I won’t assume that Chicago beats the other 3 teams in the East, so that means we’ve got ground we HAVE to make up.
The other thing is that we’re not getting better. The offense was improved over last week but the defense got torched today in a way it hadn’t been in some time.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Yeah Blings, but
Aaron himself said many times he worried about Ball
I myself posted that I worried about Ball and Barron
I know you hate being right on this matter of the Dallas Cowboys.
I wonder where your buddy Terry is? Could it be that his “player execution” now has doomed the coaches, even though player execution has nothing to do with the coaches, as he says?
I think I read somewhere that bear fan (Urlacher?) shoved him, got fined, and Terry’s rose colored glasses fell off.
"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"
by DallasPalace on Sep 19, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Compare Colts
Get their hats handed to them game one; then they bounce back. Dallas played the same two weeks in a row.
Indy ran the ball like maniacs last night
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
JimmyK
You are a better man than all the philly fans I have ever met in person. I sat next to a table of philly fans during the game today and they were the typical A**hole philly people that give philly the bad rap that it gets. As to what you said:
The entire division is garbage so far.
You are 100% correct. The division is up for grabs, and I have said, and still say, that
9-7 will win the division, and the Cowboys have as good a chance as anyboby to win it.
- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Sep 20, 2010 2:39 AM CDT up reply actions
9 wins????
I`m hoping for 5…actually zero, then maybe we `ll make some changes to turn things around, 9-7, Jerry will still think we`re heading in the right direction under Wade. after next week 0-3 Texans 45 Cowboys 17.
You don't really mean that
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I never got the crush of Beuhler personally.
This ain’t wrasslin. I don’t care how cute it is that he can outlift the linemen and outrun some of the DB’s. Can he make a field goal to save his life? I think we know the answer to that one.
the crush on Buehler is....
Jerry Jones loves selling his jerseys to women! haha
Super Bowl party at my place, Dallas vs. ?, who's in?
You're right...
and this sucks.
The thing is, I keep thinking “What is different than last year?”, and it’s nothing.
It’s like it is the same thing, but Dallas was getting away with it.
In Romo’s defense, it sucks that it seems like he has to always play on down and distances of 3rd and 12, 3rd and 8, 3rd and forever.
Just sucks.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
What I was thinking about as I watched the first half of the Manning Bowl...
is what the outcomes of Romo’s “kills” are?
Maybe OCC can help. I used to think there was no way anyone would track that stuff, but knowing OCC, I’m sure there’s some obscure site he can tap for #’s.
Regardless, I think those calls, anecdotally, are turning into negative yardage plays setting up long 3rd downs for him.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I would really like to know this
I have a feeling you are right. Whenever Romo yells kill, its like that play is immediately dead.
Does "Kill" mean hand ball to Felix for a two yard loss?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
And yes...
we got away with it last year.
Or maybe the defense bailed us out more than a few times.
Gotta love what you see from Dez, though…wow.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Yeah Dez is going to be a stud.
The WR corps will be good.
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Even Roy was good today...
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
c'mon that was a very hard play
two man against him and the officlas should be ended the play before
Howlong was he stood up without getting a whistle blown?
His momentum was not only stopped, he was getting shoved back.
I put that on the zebras.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Yeah,
9 times out of 10 that play is blown dead well before the strip.
Roy has played pretty decent so far but he’s not having many calls go his way.
You should have seen me yelling at the TV about that no whistle.
- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Sep 22, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
He got pounded on multiple occasions without dropping the ball...
and Romo set him up for a few of those big hits.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
yeah, I think he did pretty good......
as the media has said, he is the only one of the receivers that has taken responsibility for the loss. He’s easy to blame, but at least he owned up to his fumble. I don’t buy this that Romo was throwing behind guys to keep them from getting pounded. Brad Sham was saying that he was rushing his passes
Romo has to take a few hits and stand in there a little longer
If not, then this offense will dink and dunk itself to some decent yardage and not many points.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
unfortunately, I was traveling so I just heard the game on the radio.....
Sham was pretty honest and hard on the Cowboys. That’s what I like about him. He doesn’t sugar-coat anything. He just tells it like he sees it. I particularly liked his quote that a lot of these players need to put down their press clippings (about being pro-bowlers) and start playing ball.
That seems to be the recurring theme...
but coaches have to develop zero tolerance for stupidity.
Right now, they seem to lack that.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I think so too
I don’t know whether its him or Garrett just not calling deep plays.
In 2007, it was almost assumed they'd take deep shots multiple times in every game
Was that all about T.O.?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
we should throw to miles-dez and witten,
till the defenses show they can stop them.
also we need to pick one rb and use him ,no more 3 headed monster.
Davie Wilson
"how bout them cowboys"!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Sep 20, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Since this was predictable, and you and I already had at it, I'll just comment
on one thing: I never saw Romo sulking on the bench. Every time I looked at him, he was looking down at game film. I’ll leave Brandon to answer you on the first half throws in the post he promised, and maybe dunk or someone else who has Romo in perspective will bother to deal with the “choker” label.
Maybe Brandon can help me with the "kills"
So what do you think about Buehler. Let him ride out another week or sign a vet?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
You'd have to ask Brandon, but at least that's a different angle for you to rag on
Romo from. Bueller? Beats me, although, according to a couple of folks here, the miss was owing to a bad hold. I didn’t catch that.
Don't get all sissy pissy on me
…enjoy the varied perspectives.
We’ve got a week to dwell on this crap.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
The 48 yarder I think gave Buehler 1 more week to prove himself.
Although I think we’re about 7 weeks late in bringing in a vet.
LOL
Me too!!!
One thing.
I’m really worried about Felix. I think he may be pressing.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I'm not worried about Felix
Once we get an OC that knows how to use him next year, he might do better. Everytime he touched the ball today it seemed like he was hit in the backfield.
Blings, I'm "sissy pissy" because you disappoint me. You piled on in exactly
the way I expected without listening to anyone else’s point of view. If I argued again that Romo looked good in the first half, was 8 for 8 on the TD drive, was on target to Austin when Austin deflected for the INT, you’d still ignore. I’m guessing you’ll ignore when Brandon does his post on why Romo wasn’t inaccurate early in the game. But mostly, I find laughable the extent to which you give the D a pass. It’s hard for me to respect you when you (and others, to be fair), point the easy finger at Romo and fail to discuss the fact that the defense made the offense look good by comparison. That is simply scapegoating at its worst and most obvious. The D was crushed by an offense led by an inconsistent QB and a wounded O line The offense faced a damned good defense that got well last week. Me? I’m far more concerned about the D than anything I saw on offense. Austin and Witten don’t tip those passes, RW doesn’t fumble, Romo completes the pass to Choice, and we have a chance; as someone else pointed out, those things can be fixed. How do you fix that defense? And make no mistake; those pre-season woes were on D, too.
P.S. You also ignored my contention that Romo wasn’t sulking, but looking at game film or watching the game, or having a blow and a drink of Gatorade. What a tired argument.
I saw him sulking, again
In fact, he gets criticized for that often, Fernie. He should be up and around, pumping up his teammates. He’s got to display the leadership that his coaching staff lacks. Again, this is well documented. You can’t put that all on me.
Also, you’re railing on a defense that gave up 27 points but had to contend with their brethren on the offensive side of the ball turning the ball over twice early. I think it could have been much worse.
Frankly, I think you (and others, to be fair) have gotten spoiled by how well the defense has been playing of late and it has clouded your judgement. This is a Mike Martz offense that has a history of scoring in the 30’s on Dallas. In fact, I think it was Creasy729 who chided me for saying that this would be a much tougher test for the defense after the Washington game and he couldn’t understand why I was showing any respect for Cutler.
Well, here again, I think your perspective is affected in a deleterious fashion. Jay Cutler is a good QB on a team lacking elite skill players, the likes of which Dallas and few others have. He has the kind of arm that Romo dreams about at night and yes, he is erratic at times. If your thinking is predicated on continued failures by good players who’ve proven they CAN do it without faltering, well, that’s your cross to bear when it doesn’t pan out the way you planned.
My criticisms of Romo are my own. Are they fair? They are in my eyes. In the end, that’s all that matters, right? I don’t come here to try and garner your respect by watering down my opinion. If your approach wasn’t so emotional (and let’s be clear, you are overly emotional right now), you’d revel in the opportunity for discourse on the topic.
No worries, you’ve earned your pass.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Dude, my responses are no more emotional than yours, and I'll pass on
your pass. Condescension has never become you. The criticism of Romo—sulking, etc.—is well documented by whom? You? Joey? Fist pumping? Seriously? I’d rather he be studying the film and thinking about the next series. You love to compare him negatively to Aikman. I can’t imagine in my wildest dreams Aikman jumping around like a cheerleader.
As for the D, my judgment is just fine. They were not solid in the pre-season, and the turnover issue is long term. I watched a D that looked awful after the first quarter. If you want to give Martz and Cutler credit, I suggest you do the same for the Chicago D, which is much more a strength of the team than their offense.
sitting quietly by yourself looking at film is not leadership
It could be interpreted, rightly or wrongly, by fans or teammates, as “hiding”, looking for an excuse not to talk to anyone.
Romo strikes me as a happy-go-lucky guy who doesn’t look for and even avoids confrontation.
Unfortunately, that does not a championship QB make. They need to be kinda AHoles sometimes, maybe even a little disliked.
respected more than liked.
Even if he wasn’t sulking, it sure isn’t leadership to go sit quietly looking at film in the middle of the game all the time. Like it or not, football is an emotional sport, it’s about a lot more than the X’s and O’s
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Sep 19, 2010 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
This isn't taking sides...
but he was also seen yelling at his offensive line.
Once again, you can take “Realist Larry, 2009” out of your tagline. Quoting yourself and then stating that you quoted yourself is pretty arrogant.
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it's just a joke-a tagline
because I’m sometimes accused of being a pessimist, which I’m not.
Of course, after 2 games like this, everyone’s on the I Told You So, Realist/Pessimist bandwagon now!
A win next week would help.
“AFB-condensed, new name, same flavor”-is that arrogant? I mean it’s all about you, you know. Or is that what taglines are for?
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Sep 20, 2010 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions
It's just to show who I am.
Meaning I’ve changed my name.
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I've seen you post now for going on 5 years....
and it’s the same dog and pony show.
And yes.. you are a pessimist. I’m a Cowboy fan, I want Dallas to win.
I think you’d much rather be right than see them win.
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The leadership on the sideline that I want to see from Romo
is what I saw from Witten. Yelling at the doctor and poking his finger in the doctor’s chest and saying “You better clear me to go back in this game, right now!”
I know concussions are nothing to joke about, but Witten is a warroir and he is the only player on this team that has heart.
- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Sep 20, 2010 2:50 AM CDT up reply actions
You're right. Brookings does too.
- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Sep 22, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
All of them?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I think that's unfair
I find it impossible to believe that when the 6th bling finally comes along that EVERYONE on BTB won’t rejoice, regardless of HOW it happens.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Uh, yeah. I just LOVE it when they play like crap and lose.
Really brightens up my weekend.
That’s a stupid comment. I wouldn’t be on here for 5 years if I didn’t root for the team and want them to win.
“Dog and Pony”? Actually, I’ve been proven correct all along the way to temper expectations for this team.
At the end of last year they had a good run, but it was ALL fueled by the D, certainly not the Offense.
That’s just the facts, Ma’am.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Sep 20, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe I was over the line.
You want them to win, but I think your just as satisfied in being right.
BTW how do you get to be a Dallas fan, Warriors fan, Cubs fan, and Bama fan?
Throw darts at a map?
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I was an Air Force Brat, moving all over
and heavily influenced by TV in the 70’s!
Make sense for football?
Landry, Bear-both with the hats! What’s up with the hats? Maybe something about Fedoras…..
The Cubs, well, Little League was huge for me, and my first 3 years running I was on the “Cubs.” Nuff said. Then I start to learn their history, how special they are, and Bam. I’m locked for life.
Warriors-&6 or &&, they make a title run-pure bandwagoner, but I’ve stuck with them since, w/little to show for it
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Sep 20, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
So...how cool was Mannix?
:-)
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
ha!
Didn’t watch that, but enjoyed Rockford….
Then I started staying up late, SNL came on, and PBS started showing Monty Python’s Flying Circus.
Life was never the same!
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Sep 21, 2010 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Hawaii Five-O?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Wow Larry, kinda similar situation for me.
I am an Army brat and my dad is from Philly..so I am a huge Phillies fan. Started watching the Boys and Phillies about the same time with my dad, about 1971. Born in San Antonio in the Golden Era of Cowboy football. My first NFL game was in the playoffs at Candlestick against the Niners in 72. I was 6. Staubach with the comeback in the 4th quarter against John Hadl. I don’t follow the NBA anymore, its trash, but I was a Sixers fan too, when Doc was there. Dad absolutely hates the Eagles, a hate that I share, even though many of my extended family are still there and hate the Boys with that same drunken glazed eye frothing at the mouth Philly look. I follow Florida State in CFB, b/c my dad has a degree from there, earned in the Army at night school, and I almost went there too, but my folks weren’t down with the idea of me going to a notorious party school in the 80’s. Hmmm.
"You are what you are."
Bill Parcells
by cowboymikemc on Sep 21, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
By the way, your tagline police act is immature and getting old.
Worse than the guy who polices the Fanposts.
Give it a rest. Why do you care?
It’s a friggin’ tagline on a football website. You need to maybe take a break, chill, and reevaluate your perspective.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Sep 20, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Whatever princess.
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ignore
I think you’re pissed at the Boys and taking it out on me
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Sep 20, 2010 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I am
And I apologize.
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I think we're all pissed
…and rightfully so.
But our character as fans is tested when things go wrong.
We have to be logical and not get too high or too low when the season goes through its ebb and flow.
Remember what connects us!
GO COWBOYS!!!
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
And so is the team's character
But while we all want to see some fired up players and emotion, that eventually wears thin.
I’’d like to see their pissed offishness (to coin a phrase) translate to to focus and execution, not celebrations of achieving a first down when your team is losing.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Sep 21, 2010 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions
No Prob
I’m depressed about this team looking like this too
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Sep 21, 2010 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions
I too have gotten into some semi-arguements with fans here
the last two mondays that I can only attribute to how P.O.’ed I am about the games. Sorry thebigham and Fernie67 and bishopwest.
- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Sep 22, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
sign a vet ..NOW..
Davie Wilson
"how bout them cowboys"!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Sep 20, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
This deserves an "I Told You So"
Consider yourselves told.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
agreed........
I’ve been thinking this since the off-season-totally ridiculous
You're the man, 5Blings
I rec’d this, and can’t argue with much of it. I think you might be a bit too harsh on Romo. And, I say that because he’s easily our best QB since Aikman. Any talk of replacement has to be about who we can find that’s an upgrade, and that’s most certainly not an easy task. I don’t want to see another Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson or Drew Henson QB-ing our team.
"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please."
~Mark Twain
I'll just say I think you are very very wrong about the offense.
and the offense will be very good.
I trust you won’t mind if I reference this post as we get more information over the season?
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Sep 19, 2010 9:08 PM CDT reply actions
Once it's on here, it's a matter of public record...
BTW, did we lose the ANYPA battle today?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
we got crushed.
the defense allowed an ANPY/A of 10.8. To put that in perspective, the worst average ANPY/A allowed last season (I’m referencing season averages … I’m sure there were single games where a team allowed a worse ANPY/A) was 7.3, so 10.8 is really bad.
the offense produced an ANPY/A of 6.0. That would have been good for 12th last season. Not great but not attrocious.
I’m going to write a post but I’m far more worried about the defense. The offense seems capable of doing what they need to do to win and have been undermined by correctable problems. The defense I don’t think is capable of doing what is necessary to win.
I agree with this.
We’re not physical. If Demarcus Ware is the face of our defense … it’s nasty intensity
I’ll further add that I’m happy to live with that. I’d rather root for Demarcus Ware and go 8-8 than root for Lawrence Taylor and win the Super Bowl.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Sep 19, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Why?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Meant to say
…why? LT was the best ever.
How about Adjusted Net Yards Per Carry? did we win that one?
;-)
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
well, because I think that LT actually enjoyed hurting QBs.
and I’m just past the point where I can enjoy watching another person injured.
As far as I know Ware has never injured a QB. Don’t you find that strange? He’s certainly big and strong enough and has gotten enough clean shots. Personally I think it’s pretty clear that Ware goes out of his way to tackle QBs in a way that’s safe or even better just karate chop the ball away and not tackle them at all. I’m sure he’d effect QB’s more if they were afraid that 94 was going to try and put the crown of his helmet in their earhole. The cowboys might win more game but I’d like them less.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Sep 19, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Ware has missed a bunch of sacks too
I think it has cost us as a result.
Yo have to play this game one way. All out. Not intending to hurt someone, but you have to play aggressively, physically. There is no such thing as a dominant finesse defense.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Yo have to play this game one way. All out.
let’s be honest. the most effective way to play is with intent to injure. It’s a lot scarriery when the QB is worried about getting hit so hard that he’s gonna be knocked unconcussion than getting the ball karate chopped out of his hands. New Orleans did it to Farve last year. LT did it when he played. Reggie White. In 1990 Philly knocked out something like 7 or 8 QBs. Laron Landry’s like that on Washington.
I like Ware the way he is though and wouldn’t want him to be ‘nastier’ even if it meant more wins.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Sep 19, 2010 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay, now we know where we differ
Great point on NO and Favre last year. They absolutely wanted to leave a mark.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Fan in Thick and Thin
What are you talking about? Really?
I do not have the size or ability to play NFL football, but I did play rugby in college and we played as hard as we could and we hit as hard as we could and
the most effective way to play is with intent to injure
is absolutely not true.
If you are thinking about how hard you are going to hit the guy, you will miss the guy.
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by fan since '65 on Sep 20, 2010 3:04 AM CDT up reply actions
You don’t think of fear as a factor in professional football. You assume that the sort of people who make it to the NFL are immune to the emotion. Perhaps they don’t mind being hit, or maybe they just don’t get scared; but the idea of pro football players sweating and shaking and staring at the ceiling at night worrying about the next day’s violence seems preposterous. The head coach of the Giants, Bill Parcells, didn’t think it preposterous, however. Parcells, whose passion is the football defense, believed that fear played a big role in the game. So did his players. They’d witnessed up close the response of opposing players to their own Lawrence Taylor ….
“I don’t like to just wrap the quarterback,” he explained. “I really try to make him see seven fingers when they hold up three. I’ll drive my helmet into him, or, if I can, I’ll bring my arm up over my head and try to axe the sonuvabitch in two. So long as the guy is holding the ball, I intend to hurt him. . . . If I hit the guy right, I’ll hit a nerve and he’ll feel electrocuted, he’ll forget for a few seconds that he’s on a football field.”
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/BlindSide/excerpt-blind-side-michael-lewis/story?id=9418563&page=4
you missed the point. whatever is given up in ‘tackling form’ is more than outweighed by what is gained in terrifying the QB. and when you have a clean shot at the back of a QB tackling form is irrelevant.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Sep 20, 2010 6:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I've always agreed with Tuna, Jimmy and others on this
You can absolutely get into the head of your opponent and intimidate them into making uncharacteristic mistakes.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Posted here because the other thread is rapidly getting bumped off the page
I was thinking about this comment.
Meanwhile, the offense turned the ball over twice, giving them short fields and raising Chicago’s "scoreability".
Aren’t you now talking out of both sides of your mouth?
I don’t think you’ve thought this through. We disagreed about the relevance of yards gained/yards allowed and points scored/points allowed in evaluating offenses and defenses.
I said that yards gained was a better measure of offensive performance than points scored (and vice versa for evaluating a defense). Points scored may not reflect offensive performance because it does not take into account the field position that the offense starts with. If the offense consistently has bad field position it may gain a lot of yards but not score points. That’s still a good offense though. The same is true for the defense. A defense that always has a long field to defend can allow a lot of yards without giving up a lot of points. That’s still a bad defense though.
Now I believe you disagreed with that hypothesis. Your position was that yards gained is irrelevant. We should look at points scored when evaluating the offense and points allowed when evaluating the defense (I acknowledge that may be exaggerating your position a bit but that is the gist of it). In which case field position isn’t relevant to evaluating defensive performance (the theory presumably being that it’s binary: the defense is either a good red zone defense or a bad red zone defense and a good red zone defense will stop opponents whether their opponents start on their own 20 or the 50).
Sunday provided us with a test case. As you pointed out, turnovers by the offense gave Chicago good field position. Chicago promptly used that field position to drive down the field and score.
You said I was “talking out of both sides of your mouth”, but which hypothesis do the results from Sunday suggest is correct?
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Sep 20, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I think they suggest the following;
Turnovers by the offense to a team with a capable offense can make that offense look prolific if the defense breaks down.
Can we agree on that much?
And yes, you oversimplified my position, but I’ll live…
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Turnovers by the offense to a team with a capable offense can make that offense look prolific if the defense breaks down.
yep, we agree on that.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Sep 20, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Finally!!!
Pop those champagne corks!!!
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
The rules have changed since LT played.
And you can no longer “drive your helmet into him” or “axe the sonuvabitch in two”.
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by fan since '65 on Sep 22, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
But you CAN "Kolb" the guy into the turf
…and we should.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I enjoyed watching LT break Theisman's leg..wish he could do that to his voice box so he couldn't do
broadcasts anymore.
"You are what you are."
Bill Parcells
by cowboymikemc on Sep 21, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah...over the top
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Also, look at how the JEts and Steelers use their physicality to overpower an opponent who outguns them
We can’t do that.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
whoops
meant to include the not obviously …
If Demarcus Ware is the face of our defense … but not it’s nasty intensity.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Sep 19, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
What terrifies me about this team is the age of the stars
If we do lose next season to lockout, just look at the ages we’ll be dealing with come 2012. Romo will be 32. The line (assuming they’re all still here) will be Free:29, Koiser:34, Gurode:33, Davis:34, Columbo:35. Barber will be 29 and most likely done. Is Felix really ready to take over in 2012?
As for the defense, the line will be 30, 31, 29. Ware will be 30, Brooking will be 37 (Will Lee be ready?) Bradie will be 31.
Newman will be 34 and Sensi will be 29.
We have some youth for sure, but this really makes me wonder if this group of Cowboys have missed their window with these first 2 losses. Because the majority of our team is in their prime and if we lose 2011….that’s 2 years older everyone becomes.
The season isn't over
Sometimes, when you’re going through Hell, you have to keep going.
That’s what this team has to do. Get back to basics. Bring fire and intensity to the game and then play loose.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Yep....
I mean lets face it… this is must win now. Do or die.
Gotta stop sew up the wound before the fng guts fall out…. too much?
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
Houston is a must-win now
Losing is not an option.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Yeah but you know what I mean.
0-2 isn’t the end, but 0-3 will make it tough. I mean look at it this way, that is 2 losses away from how many Dallas had total last year.
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Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
The future of the offensive line has to give every fan nightmares
The fact that the line is already so old, with no apparent replacements already on the roster….and a potential lost season….wow…
I think at least the most important part is young.
Free has looked good.
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Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
Yes and no
The niners rebuilt their line in 3 seasons. The Jets did it in 2.
It can be done if you mix in good draftees with FA’s.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Yep and like I stated...
I think Free is going to be a good LT, I’d rather be finding the other pieces than that one.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
Yea and once that line is rebuilt
All of our superstars are probably past their primes. We’re talking 2014-2015
I don't know about that.
I’m pretty pissed off and thats pretty negative. You can get one or two pieces in the draft and use FA too build around.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
Your point is valid
They have some serious work to do up front.
But we knew that already.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
If Tony stays healthy, you have Dez, Witten, Miles
…the core group will be okay.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Yea but the defense would then be getting old
Eh I gotta quit thinking about this crap. 14 more games to go this year.
One good win can turn things around!!
Just like New Orleans last year!
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
The schedule just scares the hell out of me
It did before when I counted us being 2-0 at this point…
You are not kidding.
I had us at 9-7, BEFORE this 0-2 start.
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- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Sep 20, 2010 3:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but can you do it
with no free agents, 4th rd and later picks, and no 1st 4 round picks in the last 5-6 years or so?
Ummm…..No
And people thought I was crazy for blaming Garrett for that.
We have to face the music now- none of the coaches siezed control of the offense enough to champion upgrading the Oline over getting another reciever, or going after another linebacker, but that is why BPA is flawed.
There is no sugar coating it- our leadership sucks.
"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"
by DallasPalace on Sep 19, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Puppet coaches
You can blame jerry, but the coaches still are more to blame. I don’t believe that the coaches couldn’t have stated they’re case to upgrade the team to him. So that brings up a question for example:
Did Garrett ever say anything to Jerry about upgrading the offensive line, and make Jerry feel like it would/should be a priority to do so, and Jerry just ignored him, or
Did Garrett feel like the Oline was fine, and that things will work out, and thus did nothing to state his case about it to Jerry?
Count me as someone that believes the latter.
Why you ask?
Simple- Garrett has had years in his position now. If he would make adressing a weakness on the team a priority, then he would have gone after young talent and develop it., coupled with his insane love for passing, and you have a recipe for this disaster.
Is it possible that Garrett can’t percieve weaknesses on the offense correctly?
If he couldn’t understand or percieve this problem on offense before it came to this, than we are in bigger trouble than I first thought.
believe you me when I say that I have thought about these kind of questions for years now.
"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"
by DallasPalace on Sep 19, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Your obsession with blaming Garrett for the draft boarders on bizarre.
I’ve seen you post this type of comment about 50 times in the last year and you’ve simply failed to provide a single shred of evidence for it every time.
You just make stuff up and then repeat it endlessly, seemingly in an attempt to convince others it has validity.
You then use that invented theory to draw even further ‘conclusions’ about Garrett.
Seriously, you must hold some sort of personal grudge against Garrett for something.
Really Luke?
Even now, after the team has shown no offensive Identity, you would sit there and wonder why I question the reason the offensive coordinator doesn’t seem to have a firm grasp on decisionmaking and playcalling for this team?
A personal grudge? Yeah, I guess you can say I would hold a personal grudge toward anything that would keep the Cowboys from having success as a team.
Since you seem to think I make stuff up Luke, and that i conjure up “wild and bizarre” theories about the offense, why don’t you enlighten me by telling me just who it is that is in charge of the inept offense, and the decisionmaking/playcalling behind it? Or, perhaps the game I watched today was just a mirage- just like last week?
"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"
by DallasPalace on Sep 20, 2010 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Here we go again.
You’re absolutely incapable of addressing what people actually say.
You just erect straw man argument after straw man argument.
Actually, that's not a straw man, by definition
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Actually it is.
DallasPalace posted that he believes Jason Garrett is responsible for our poor drafting of Olineman.
My reply to him was about how I feel his repeated posting of his Garrett/Draft theory is completely lacking in evidence. I have on other occasions tried to show that it’s simply an incorrect assumption but Palace simply ignores my points and replies about other issues.
Rather than deal with the issue I replied to (his Garrett/Draft theory), DallasPalace then replied; "Even now, after the team has shown no offensive Identity, you would sit there and wonder why I question the reason the offensive coordinator doesn’t seem to have a firm grasp on decisionmaking and playcalling for this team?".
That’s him setting up the straw man. I never said a single word about offensive identity, decision making or playcalling in my post. I never said a single word about whether I "sit there and wonder" etc. I was simply commenting on his Garrett/Draft theory.
Then he says; "why don’t you enlighten me by telling me just who it is that is in charge of the inept offense, and the decisionmaking/playcalling behind it? Or, perhaps the game I watched today was just a mirage- just like last week?"
Now he’s got his straw man he uses silly rhetorical questions around it to further distance himself from the original point of conjecture.
Straw Man Argument – "A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent’s position. To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the “straw man”), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position."
He has done this virtually every time I have questioned one of his theories.
This is a great point
Purely drafting for BPA is a flawed strategy. It has to be BPA overlaid onto areas of need.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Where is Lissyyyyyyyy with his O-line write up's for 2011's draft?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
There isn't going to be a 2011 draft. Can you say "lockout"?
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by fan since '65 on Sep 20, 2010 3:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually regardless of what happens with the CBA there will be a 2011 draft.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
I did not know that. Even though the CBA expires before the draft?
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by fan since '65 on Sep 22, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah its weird and not what you would expect
but if the CBA is allowed to expire in March than the draft still takes place. I think that is written in to the past agreements because owners don’t want to lockout a season and then come back to see a draft that is completely awkward in terms of draft valuation. In other words they don’t want to come back and have essentially 2 years of players to comb through (e.g. a 2nd or 3rd round player in 2012 might have been a 2011 1st round pick if there had been a draft).
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
Ah, ok. "Don't throw out the baby with the bath water."
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by fan since '65 on Sep 22, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't believe it's Jerry
Yeah, I believe he is on a power crusade, but I also believe the coaches are timid regarding stating they’re case for what they want.
What they want- that’s funny. just what is it they want?
Wade always wants another LB, or DL
Campo wants safeties, or CB’s
Garrett wants recievers
Fans are the ones that are stuck wondering who is championing the cause of getting help for the RB’s and Romo (Oline!)
I pretty much agree with Blings on most things, but I don’t agree with him about Romo.
Here are some provacative, revolutionary, and to some fans, anger inducing questions about Romo’s development:
How much faith do you have in this coaching staff that Romo has been developed correctly? Especially when the decisionmaking has been dubious at best? This is not helping Romo
Since Romo is very Accurate once he gets out of the pocket, why don’t they try more roll outs, or play action, or just have Romo run the ball from time to time, just to change things up a bit when they do pass, if not to just keep a defense honest?
How hard is it for the defenses we face to figure out that a play, any play, will be a pass?
"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"
by DallasPalace on Sep 19, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
This has always bothered me about Garrett....
Since Romo is very Accurate once he gets out of the pocket, why don’t they try more roll outs, or play action, or just have Romo run the ball from time to time, just to change things up a bit when they do pass, if not to just keep a defense honest?
this is one criticism of Garrett I agree with
I’ve wondered about this because this was a staple in 2007 and was damn near unstoppable.
I was psyched when the 1st play in Washington was the good ol’ bootleg with Witten leaking out.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Sep 20, 2010 6:47 AM CDT up reply actions
So you are saying you are willing to wait 2 or 3 seasons?
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by fan since '65 on Sep 20, 2010 3:10 AM CDT up reply actions
In terms of building an offensive line I'm not sure what the alternatives are?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
You're as well read as you are opinionated
Good man!
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
a line that has always stuck with me
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
Did he get that from the USMC counter-ambush procedure?
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- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Sep 22, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
its always darkest before dawn,
hopefully it “dawns” on our team this sunday.
Davie Wilson
"how bout them cowboys"!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Sep 20, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
What do you mean, "if " we lose next season?
It is a done deal. There will be no football next year.
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by fan since '65 on Sep 20, 2010 3:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Not so sure...
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
this season is far from over
The Nfc east blows and that alone gives me hope..
Bruised knee, X-rays negative, MRI to follow
“I really don’t think I need it,” Jenkins said of the MRI. “I walked over [to the locker] and I’m back walking good. It’s a little swelling. We bumped knees. The first thing you expect [is something serious], you’re just laying there. You don’t want it to be the worst. I’m good, I can bend it and I have all my motion.”
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
You don't give Romo nearly enough credit for this game
Those holes he was throwing too were really tight. Time will tell, but I think quite a few teams are going to struggle against that Bears D.
Romo had MANY passes that were right on the money – 3 or so slants that were between the safety and cb, a few sideline throws to miles that were PERFECTLY placed, and a bunch of nice midrange throws to witten. The INT to Austin was in no way on him, thats ridiculous. The one to witten was probably on him, but seriously, he was off by 1/2 a second and I’m not sure Witten got out of his break quick enough – I find it hard to fault him for those plays.
The throw to choice on 3rd down..I have no idea wtf that was.
I’m not going to argue on any other posts. I have almost totally changed my mind on the lack of tackling in camp – After seeing these guys struggle on both sides, I think this team could’ve used all the real game experience it could get.
I said before the season
for us to be an elite team, Romo is going ot have to be awesome, like top 3, because this line is not going to play well enough to get us anywhere. And I still feel that way – Romo today played like a top 10 qb…which isn’t good enough.
Also, this is freaking ridicuous, we HAVE to start taking deep shots.
Ok, end of rant about Romo.
I agree with you on the safety play – Ball was godawful and the oline was average. I am still holding out hope with buehler – i thought that hold absolutely sucked. And hes probably saved a td already this season on his kickoffs.
No
They won’t win it on Romo’s right arm.
They will win it if the running game becomes menacing to opposing defenses.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
which won't happen till we get a new line
which is why if we go far, it will be on the back of our passing game.
Even if we could just avoid false starts and Alex Barron type pathetic holds these first two weeks, I think we could very well be 2-0.
I disagree
The same line that couldn’t run on Houston ran wild on the NYG, who handled Carolina’s run game pretty well the previous week.
They can do it, but it will take a commitment unseen thus far.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
on the other hand
Raf’s newest writeup is a harsher critic of Romo’s play. My argument against that would be that he threw 50 passes – having miscommunications on 4 of them isn’t awful.
I don’t know what happened with Choice, but it certainly looked to me like Romo didn’t like the route he ran.
Why did we throw 50 passes?
We won the SB’s running the ball. I KNOW you don’t believe that, but go back and look it up.
There is a reason Romo has the Cowboys records for passing yards and not Aikman or Staubach.
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by fan since '65 on Sep 20, 2010 3:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah we also won those Super Bowls with really good offensive lines
and great defenses. And this team has neither.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
Yep.
- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Sep 22, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Look at what Indy did last night running the ball
…it is all about commitment to that part of the game.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
The team has three talented RB's and a well-paid, talented O-line
They just need to get more out of the players.
It’s a weakness because we allow it to be.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I don't necessarily agree on the talented O-line statement,
and therein is the problem. The only way to NOT allow it to be a problem is to replace most of them.
I somewhat agree.
So you start out the game with Barber running and running well… 8…7..6… yards in chunks and then after the miles austin INT, Barber doesn’t ever get to get into a rhythem again.
You have to commit at some point. Now I will give the Bears credit on this, they contained Javid Best a week earlier and he ripped apart a pretty good Eagles defense.
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We completely 100% ignored the run for a while in the second quarter
at one point I thought to myself I can’t remember the last time we ran the ball.
After that, the run game was nonexistant. I have no problem with Garrett calling minimal run plays in the late 3rd and 4th – we were getting nothing, in some cases negative yardage. But in the 2nd? wtf happened?
Agreed.
Garrett sometimes runs calls like he’s 21 points down.
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I honestly believe its just not in his nature
like Andy Reid. They are pass first playcallers, and they think of the run only as something to balance out the passing game a little.
This team has the backs, and at least yesterday it appeared like the OL was capable of run blocking for a while. When we see something working, why don’t we just go with it? For example, I have no problem with his playcalling later on in the second half – if he called another run that was stuffed behind the line of scrimmage, I probably would start getting pissed off at him.
Interesting
When we see something working, why don’t we just go with it?
When Norv was here, he would ride whoever had the hot hand until it went cold. Somewhere along the way, JG forgot that lesson.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Barber was early
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
In the 1st quarter, yes. They came back to him 6 more times after that for a total of 4 yards.
It wasn’t working.
You know as well as I do...
RB’s need to get into a rhythm. They need to “feel” the defense and how the line is blocking them. They need to absorb a few hits, get through a couple of holes and then…lightning in a bottle.
Going away from him when they did made no sense and took him completely out of rhythm.
I actually have been more than impressed with Barber’s quickness into the hole this year and I think he’s proven he’s still #1 on that depth chart. So hand him the freakin’ rock!!!
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Made no sense
…but JG did that last year too. He went through several game stretches where it was either all pass or all run.
He needs to find get his chakra in balance. Where is DalaiLuke?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Barber's last touch in the 1st quarter came with 6:16 left on the clock
His next touch in the 2nd quarter came with 10:14 left on the clock.
So actually only about 11 minutes of game time expired. But the Bears had the ball nearly 3 minutes of that time.
The offense ran 13 plays between Barber’s last 1st quarter touch and his first 2nd quarter touch.
Of those 13 plays, Felix, Choice, and Gronk got a total of 7 touches. So the RBs were still in the game plan.
Bishop, you've both sufficiently underscored and completely missed the point
11 minutes between carries for a RB is an eternity. The next time you touch the ball, it’s like startiing over.
You said stop going with it if it doesn’t work. But it WAS working with Barber, so what do you do then? Stop?
That’s what they did. Do you support that decision?
BTW, I love Gronk and am waiting for Aaron to come on and sing a Pink song (inside joke).
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
And 11 minutes of "game" time is like what? 40 minutes of REAL time.
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by fan since '65 on Sep 22, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Fantastic point
Would you ever do that to Dirk or Kobe or LeBron if they started off hot?
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
That is my argument as well
You can’t go away from it just because it isn’t working.
It won’t work because this team knows if it gets stifled early on, the OC will completely avoid pounding the rock.
As I said, it’s ALL about commitment and mindset, as Indy showed last night.
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
while I agree
if you’re going to get -2 and 0 yards multiple times like we did in the later part of the second half…you need to strongly consider going away from it, cause thats as bad as a pass incompletion.
You'll almost always get that if you don't make the run a priority THROUGHOUT the game
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
When the run game isn't working, it is foolish to make it a priority throughout the game.
Perhaps a run here or there, but to make it a PRIORITY would be a huge mistake.
See my question above...
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Also..
that Bears D looked solid. I don’t think we are the only offense that will struggle against them. If Cutler plays like he did yesterday (practically perfect), they are going to win 10 or 11 games.
Of course, a big problem with their D over the years has been health.
Maybe
…but scoring a single TD isn’t going to get it done against the Bears OR the Skins (and you can’t say the Skins defense is all that good after what Schaub and Co. did to them yesterday)
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I believe it, sure...
but whens the last time a team won the superbowl on the back of their run game…look at the last 6 or 7 years ago. Its a qbs league. Defenses are just too big and fast to consistently run the ball on. Theres one or two teams in the whole league that can do that, and their line is far superior to ours.
Romo isn't a 50 pass QB
He’s not Warner or Brady. He’ll break down.
This team needs balance.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
And the only time Brady was throwing 50 times a game...
they didn’t win a ring.
Most teams need balance.
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Exactly!
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Balance is the key to any superbowl team IMO
Strangely the Steelers last super bowl team probably won with the least balance of most teams in the SB era.
The Saints have it, the Colts had it when they won the SB, as well as Joe Montana’s Niners.
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Our dynasty had it!
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You're reaching.
You can still lose and have balance, that is not what I’m trying to say.
There is nobody that can convince me that abadoning the run when 7 points down is a good move.
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If the run isn't working, it is a good idea to reduce the amount of runs, especially when the pass is working.
That’s just common sense.
I agree
…but that wasn’t the case with Barber early in this game.
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Nope
And what was working wasn’t draws and tosses it was just simple man on man, Barber ripping the middle of the defense and they stopped.
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So I don't get why people were (and still are) ripping the O-line
They were dominating early.
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It's funny
I was all in favor of abandoning the run yesterday. I flashed back to the GB game last year and realized why the Cowboys were out to throw it. They need to pass it enough so they could make the running game viable again.
Unfortunately, each time they got closer to that point, there was a miscue or turnover that took them further away. And then they had to pass again…
It makes perfect sense if you can recognize the balancing act between run and pass at each point in the game. This is Jason Garrett’s job. He gets minus points from me for losing the initiative early in the game when he took Barber out.
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by accidental innuendo on Sep 21, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
That's exactly what I'm thinking.
And it really was in back to back games. Barber was killing Washington too.
It seems like Garrett is thinking way too much about getting everyone touches.. just do what is working.
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Agreed! Now we just need to convince the Bishop!!!
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Interesting. Pass to set up the run or run to set up the pass.
There is little doubt in my mind that the Cowboys are a “pass to set up the run” team. It’s perhaps one of the reasons the draw is the Cowboys’ most effective run play. However, half the time they end up abandoning the run because the O-line is not cutting it. So they pass more, defenses adapt to it, and the passing game delivers less and less results.
This then leads to countless blogging deathmatches about why Garrett should run more, clearly a case of mistaking cause and effect.
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 22, 2010 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I think to assume we are an X or a Y is a fool's errand
Some teams are one-dimensional, but that’s not this team.
While teams need to possess an offensive identity, you still have to be able to do certain things as they pertain to matchups and take advantage of your opponent’s weaknesses.
It’s not like you can just say “we’re a pass first team” and then hope that nobody can stifle our passing attack. Someone always stifles your attack and if you lack balance, you can’t take what they’re giving you, so to speak.
Case in point – I think everyone would say Indy is considered a pass-first team (at least I hope they would) and yet, look at how they dismantled the Giants on Monday. They used the running game, early and often, to open up their offense and keep a very aggressive Giant defense on its heels all night. I don’t ever remember Joseph Addai having that kind of game in him. They committed to running the ball and when the Fewell tried to adjust, Peyton toasted them.
I’ve watched Garrett go through playcalling “phases” (and here I will need your help OCC). Last year, it seemed like we ran the ball a lot during a 2-3 game stretch and it was the centerpiece of the offense. Then, I saw JG abandon the run and go to a VERY pass-heavy game plan for several games. Am I reading that right?
Achieving balance isn’t easy, but I don’t buy the idea that the O-line has been terrible so far. I don’t buy the idea that when Barber was getting through the hole and establishing a power running game early that it’s okay to push pause and have him wait 11 minutes to see the ball again on a running play.
That’s not a failure of player execution. It’s a simple straegic error. It’s coaching execution (of which I am in favor of if things don’t improve). Call a spade a spade and let’s hope that Garrett gets a better “feel” for the game going forward.
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I disagree with your first premise 5B
I think there is a difference or more than just semantics between a pass-first team and pass-to-set-up-the-run team. And we are definitely the latter.
The Colts are a passing team, and the Giants bought into that. Give Peyton credit for recognizing the defense and the calling runs against smaller defenders that were on the field.
The Cowboys, despite gaudy running stats at times, still line up in the shotgun on 3rd/4th-and-short. That is the hallmark of a team that does not believe in its running ability unless its passing game is going too.
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by accidental innuendo on Sep 22, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
But they often run out of that shotgun formation
…probably more than any other team that lines up that way with that down and distance.
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Undoubtedly, the Cowboys have to pass to set up the run
And I credit Garrett that he knows what sort of O Line he has, which makes this necessary.
But I fault him for two reasons:
1. First, he makes the unnecessary adjustment, e.g. going away from the run when it is working
2. He does not make the second adjustment, i.e. going back to the run at the right moment
And the reverse is true too — I have observed too many runs called in a row and missing the moment when a pass (play-action, etc.) is most viable
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by accidental innuendo on Sep 22, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
That's what I'm saying.
I understand when the run just simply isn’t working but this is the money quote:
First, he makes the unnecessary adjustment, e.g. going away from the run when it is working
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BTW
It wasn’t until Terrell Davis came along that Elway (one of the best ever) was able to win a bling.
Everyone credits the “Catch” in the Cowboys-niners game that helped propel them to a dynasty but it was their ability to use their unning game effectivel (and they did a nice job over the years of cycling through backs) that really made them a dominant offense. Lenvil Elliott, Earl Cooper and Bill Ring (I know…who???)outplayed Dorsett and Ron Springs. That’s not taking anything away from Montana, who was brilliant, but all the great ones needed complementary running games to help their cause.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I think Romo makes some great throws
I also think he misses open WR’s because his mechanics are inconsistent.
In defense of Garrett, I think he is intentionally keeping the game conservative out of the gate because romo has a history of starting slow. He gets high marks from me for adapting his strategy in that regard.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Fire Garrett
The man sucks. The man cannot use his running backs. I will say it all year, he sucks. Look at what Martz was able to do to adjust to the game situation.
And Romo is good, but he is not great.
And, in fact this team is mentally weak. Try saying that after the Vikes game last year and how many people flame you for it? I remember reading one front page writer saying this team deserves to be cocky. Ha! This team deserves a slap in the face and a kick in the arse.
by RisingSunCowboy on Sep 19, 2010 11:09 PM CDT reply actions
We say we have a Three Headed Running Back
the other team says: “Jones is in now, it is going to be a run!”
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by fan since '65 on Sep 20, 2010 3:22 AM CDT up reply actions
To me this game, while a lot of factors were in play, was all about being outcoached.
We had them by the throats early, but they adjusted.
So we adjust back, right? Apparently not.
The Onside Kick was an insult to them as an NFL team-“We’re dominating you so badly we’ll take a chance”- and fired them up.
5Blings, nothing you said here really should be new to anyone, but it is apparently….
The one point that doesn’t get mentioned enough is the lack of physicality. I’m really only talking of the D, because I think Witten, Barber, and Austiin bring some attitude to the O.
But who cares about that? It’s a team’s Defense that needs to have that aggressiveness, and it’s been missing ever since Roy Williams I went soft on us. How I’d love to have a hard-hitting safety (who could cover some too).
I don’t think Alan Ball is striking fear into anyone.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
LOL- even if he improves, he's average at best.
And there’s certainly no physicality there
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by Realist Larry on Sep 20, 2010 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions
definitely not....
I think I gained a little too much faith in this organization with the recent success of guys like Jenkins, Free, Brooking (whose looking worse and worse), Miles and Sensabaugh. All of these guys provided competent play for us. But I’m not so high on Ball after seeing him play a direct part in 14 points allowed today.
C'mon Man!
Is there really any difference between the Cowboys now and the team from the late ‘90s and early 2000’s?
Except for the fact that now the team has 1 QB instead of 5 or 6?
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As usual, you're really wrong about Romo
Couldn’t be more wrong actually. The drive that should have won us the game last week should tell you all you need to know about Romo.
Also, I wouldn’t be too confident that Romo will have a new OC next year, if Jerry does fire Wade after this season, Garrett will be his first choice to succeed him…just watch.
In Romo we Trust
I agree that Garrett will most likely be the successor.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
What about the drives that didn't allow us to score before then?
Sometimes, I think you can’t see the forest for the trees.
I don’t have a huge problem with either of Romo’s first two performances. But I will say that thus far, his time as the Dallas QB has to be characterized by not delivering in key situations.
As I said, you can blame the line, the coaches, whatever. In the end, nobody remembers who Danny White’s Offensive Coordinator was.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Just because nobody remembers who Danny White's OC was, doesn't make it right
I’ve always said QB’s get too much credit for TEAM success and too much blame for TEAM failure.
Who said anything about fair?
I just talk about the facts.
The fact is you are right.
The fact is, so am I.
So now what?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Didn't Landry call the offensive plays?
wasn’t that the big hulabaloo about bringing in the 49ers Paul Hackett in 1986? Because landry’s offensive play calling sucked?
Like I said
…nobody remembers.
:-)
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
you mean the drives where the OL or some player was penalized for holding??
how is that Romo’s fault?? Romo delivers plenty in big key situations, his 10+ career 4th comeback wins prove that in spades.
In Romo we Trust
On opne drive he had the line in their stance for like 2 minutes before someone jumped...
come on!
When you’re a quarterback, you do much more than just call the play in the huddle and throw the ball.
He’s got to run this offense!
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
and he does a tremendous job of that
even though you can’t see it through your Romo hater glasses.
In Romo we Trust
Scoreboard Terry...Scoreboard
aka “Just the Facts, Ma’am”
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Romo isn't 100% responsible for the Cowboys scoring points
He doesn’t block, run, catch passes or kick FGs, he’s one player among 11 responsible for scoring points.
Those are “just the facts”, ma’am.
In Romo we Trust
Nobody is 100% responsible
…but we already knew that. No one ever said otherwise. I think that was just your attempt to say, “but I still love my Romo”.
Don’t worry, no one is piling on.
But, I will take your comment as your waving of the white flag.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
actually thats not true
It was my attempt to let you know Romo isn’t responsible 100% for the teams lack of points as you seem to imply.
And I never wave the white flag, you should know better.
In Romo we Trust
One can hope, can't one?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
As of now...
I would be pissed if he fired wade and not the whole staff. This is getting to be a mess of a situation, and keeping the same people around won’t help any,
Its not like the offense is performing better under Garrett as time has progressed either
So now TNew is saying that there's issues around practice habits and locker room leadership
Really?
We’re back to this again?
I am sorry to say it, but this isn’t surprising.
We knew who Wade was when we hired him. I fear his days are now numbered.
Who’s next? Gruden? Cowher? If Mangini gets fired, he could be our DC.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I think Garrett is still next.
And if we are really looking for a DC next season I would hope we would look to grab someone off the Dick Lebeau coaching tree. We have the personnel to run his schemes well (minus Polamalu of course) and I love the way he mixes up coverages and blitz packages.
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If we lose next week
We then have Tennessee and Minnesota after the bye. I think we could win those games, but hypothetically say we don’t. We then have a home game against the Giants. Just say we choke that one up as well, and start 0-6. You think Jerry then changes course and has his first mid-season firing?
I think we get some things straightened out in the bye week and come out blazing, but hey….this season is already insane who knows…
It's difficult to think he would do that
…despite what Florio said last night.
The problem with letting Wade go is that you lose both the DC and the HC. He would need to have somebody in mind to take both over. But how do you elevate the OC, whose offense is under fire for not scoring points, to HC when the DC that you would have to cut loose, is running a defense that gets a ton of public praise?
This is a tough one for Jerry.
The more likely scenario is that Dallas is 2-4 or 3-3 after 6 games and then Jerry has to really look at next year’s coaching options.
On paper, this is still a Super Bowl caliber roster.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I'll hold out judgement on that
If the safety play and ilb play continues to be poor…we don’t have a top 5 defense like we (or at least I) thought. That combined with an offense that has struggled scoring the ball against every team except for Philly…thats not a superbowl caliber team.
The roster talent is there
…but the coaches must prepare them and put them in positions to be successful.
It’s always an ‘AND’ conversation and never an ‘OR’ one.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Right about everything,
except Romo, in which case you couldn’t be further from the mark.
by Admiral Dallas on Sep 20, 2010 11:02 AM CDT reply actions
What is that, like an A-?
:-)
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Agree on the Romo comments
On the list of reasons we lost this game – he’s about #10. On the list of reason we have any chance in any game – he’s about 1 through 5. And I’m appropriately critical when he plays poorly or has a brain cramp.
This team plays tight, especially on O. It’s almost as if they are waiting for the next thing to go wrong, which is why they handle adversity so poorly. The painful fact, is so much of their adversity is self-inflicted, it really shouldn’t come as a surprise anymore.
We live life forwards and understand it backwards
Its all the little things.
This team over the last few years has done all the big things pretty well. We have generated yards, kept offenses out of the endzone better than most, and been pretty proficient at beating teams with losing records. The thing that is continuously holding us back though, and has done it again in these last two games, is the fact that we do the small things very poorly. We consistently lose the penalty battle, the field position battle, and of course the turnover battle. And honestly, its unfortunate but these problems don’t have simple answers. Our players are who they are at this point. They continue to rack up penalties at a higher rate than just about any other team in the NFL and have created such a reputation for flags that at this point the refs have to be looking for us to make stupid penalties (which in turn only gives us more penalties). By the same token, our coaches are who they are as well. We continue to play a bend but don’t break style of defense that keeps the plays in front of us (unless your name is Johnny Knox) and refuses to play as aggressively as they should. And as great as it can be as far as keeping games close (especially against more explosive offenses like NO), it absolutely kills us in the field position battle as teams usually pick up a good chunk of yardage before being forced to punt it back to our offense (which could certainly do with some nicer field position). This style also really hurts our turnover production as our vanilla, keep-them-in-front-of-us coverages allows their QB to beat our blitzes with quick passes that completely kill our pass rushers’ chances to make plays and our CBs’ chances to jump routes. Ultimately I think Wade is a pretty good DC, but I would argue that it is him who is failing to use all his weapons more so than Garrett. We very rarely bring any real blitz and usually just rely on a pretty vanilla two OLB rush which the offense counters with simply keeping a RB and/or a TE in to block. And with the fact that Igor and Spears can’t be counted on to get any real pass rush I just don’t think these simple OLB rushes are enough to keep an offense on its heels. It especially isn’t enough if Newman, Jenkins, and Scandrick aren’t going to be allowed to play close to the line.
Ultimately, this season can still be turned around. Dallas can still look in the mirror and commit themselves to playing smarter and executing better. Wade can still decide to bring more heat and do it while playing a little more exotically to keep the other offense on its heels. So I agree with you Blings that we can’t give up yet. If it is going to get turned around though this team better start soon since our schedule certainly doesn’t get any easier from here.
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I agree with a lot of your post...
but a couple comments.
Wade was blitz heavy for the first 5 quarters of the season. Then we had that play where two ilbs blitzed at the same time, Olson got a free release and Ball made a poor attempt at a tackle, though to be fair, its difficult when a guy is open that quickly. After that, Wade backed off the blitzes.
But I have a problem with that too – you are KILLING cutler, they throw a couple screens and short passes and you totally back off? Wade responded very poorly I thought.
Yeah but don't you think the blitzes we were calling were a little to vanilla?
Like I talked about, I feel like our defense relies way too heavily on just straight OLB rushes. You raise a good point about the failed ILB blitz, but what happened to the blitzing Bradie James package with Ware that we saw near the end of the 2008 season when I thought our defense was really at its peak in terms of a pass rush? It seems to me that nowadays all our blitzes are either just relying on our great OLBs to make plays when the offense is already taking them into account (as great as D-Ware is he can’t beat double teams every time) or trying that ILB blitz that for what ever reason has been pretty easily picked up these last two games. I know it may be out of Wade’s comfort zone a little, but I can’t remember the last time I saw a CB blitz like the one he dialed up against Favre when we knocked him out of the GB-Dallas game in 2007.
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The one blitz I have seen from Wade this season that I did like
was where Ware went with an inside rush on the Redskins’ LT and they looped Brooking (I think it was him) around the outside to make the LT chose who to let through (Williams picked incorrectly and let Ware through)
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
I remember that blitz and loved it...
I also wonder why we’re not stunting more with the DE’s because they seem to create rush lanes when they do.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Romo needs to start throwing "bombs"
Has he attempted a pass that went beyond 20 yards in the air in the first two games? Quite a difference from Cutler yesterday and McNabb against the Texans. It just doesn’t make sense that they wouldn’t throw the ball up for #88 to try to come down with, or a ranbow that Austin could run under.
Amen brother
I’ve been on this topic for several months now.
At least one person is listening to me!
:-)
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
He had time last night on several occasions
…but the routes were mid-range.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
that cover 2
isn’t friendly to YAC….there is going to be a guy on top of you immediately unless you can spread those safeties out a little more.
exactly
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Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
I'll see your 'exactly' and raise it a +1
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
No
If DB’s think they can keep everything in front of them and not have to back off, the RB’s have more defenders to contend with.
Dallas needs to first establish the run (like they did early) and then use play action to go deep. Until they connect on a few of those (a la the Saints last year), defenses will continue to run blitz and blitz LB’s with impunity.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I don't even care what order the playcalling goes in
but c’mon Garrett (or Romo, if its Romo), mix it up. If we don’t have a single pass over 25 yards, the Bears are gonna sit there and play whack a mole with our wrs all day.
You can account alot of that on the Cover 2 scheme too.
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Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
they did yesterday...
he had time. I don’t think we even bother to run downfield routes.
You'd think between Miles and Dez they could get downfield and win the battle for the ball in the air
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
We are playing our worst football in a while
And still only a game back. This division is all hype, no teams are looking good. We can still take this, and ya never know what can happen if you catch fire at the right time (see the ’07 Giants)
we aren't playing THAT bad, honestly...
the offense is playing just slightly worse than we did most of last year and the defense played poorly yesterday. If the defense wasn’t able to pressure opposing qbs last year (like yesterday), we wouldn’t have won 10 games.
Theres a thin line in the NFL between winning and losing, and we are on the other side. The problem is, this never was going to be some dominant team like many wrongly assumed.
I never expected this defense to be top 5 this season
Teams are going to hammer the DB’s on deep routes given our safeties aren’t ready for prime time yet and O-Scan is sketchy. That will force our ILB’s to have to drop more, which isn’t their forte (no pun intended).
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Here's T-New's quote
“Like I said, I don’t know if you heard me, but I think that things [in practice] kind of got let go [by the players] in practice,” Newman said. “It’s things that … it’s not our coaches. They don’t really know some of the things that were going on.”
Seriously?
THEY DON’T REALLY KNOW SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON?!?!?!?
If that isn’t an indictment of the coaches, I don’t know what is.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
That sounds like...
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
If Wade wants us to believe anything.........
for starters, I think I would be bringing in Kris Brown ya think?
Sounds like Jerry vetoed that idea?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
yeah, Jerry doesn't want to admit that maybe he made a mistake.....
even though every media outlet thinks he’s crazy for not going after a proven kicker.
What is the Texas local sports talk radio saying?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
they are saying that Jerry is stubborn.......
for sticking with Buehler when you have Matt Stover and Kris Brown available. Even Graham is available. The thing that is so frustrating is Jerry spends 50 mil on Austin (not saying he’s not worth it) but instead is too cheap to address other issues like safety, kicker, offensive line. That’s always been Jerry’s problem. Throw lots of money at a few and then gets tight with other needs on the team. The media is also saying how this staff did a poor job of evaluating in the off-season by not addressing those needs. I just saw something very disturbing on DC.com. Apparently, last week in practice, Barber (a team captain) was very laid back and not tallomg tp the media. Brooking was addressing the team and Barber was off to the side talking with someone else instead of stepping up as a leader. For Eatman to criticize Barber, there has to be some substance to it because he doesn’t normally do that. All I’m trying to say is there are some guys on this team that are team captains that aren’t being real leaders . Also, the media has been saying that the only three guys on offense that are taking responsibility are Witten, Romo, and R. Williams. People want to put Williams down but he is one of the few that is taking responsibility. They were saying with the running game looking so bad you would at least think that Barber would say something.
Barber its a Rah Rah guy though
He is the type that leads through example, as does Romo, Witten, Ware, Miles, etc. etc. PLus Barber as almost never talked to the Media. I think I could on one hand (and have fingers left over) the times that Barber has talked to the Media
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by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Sep 21, 2010 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
*is not that is
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by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Sep 21, 2010 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, he was trying to say that he was not point the finger at the coaches but he pretty much did, whether or not
that is what he intended. Maybe he did intend to but did it in a way to avoid doing it out right. I just finished listening to some audio from WP presser today and WP started to get testy with Calvin over a question about discipline on the team. WP is looking like a man that is not in control, and now we may be just waiting for the other shoe to drop.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
If they don't play on Sunday like they did in New Orleans last year, then I think you may be right
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
This next game will go along way in showing what team we will see, but even if they do right the ship,
how long will it last? The team shows up for a few weeks then disappears, and in the playoffs if you disappear you tend to lose. I put this in an earlier post on some other thread, but this team could win 3 games in a row then somehow lose the next one or two like they suffer from a bi-polar disorder.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
They said this team couldn't win in December
We did.
They said we couldn’t win a playoff game.
We did.
They say we can’t dig ourselves out of this hole.
We will.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Bling, do not get me wrong, I think they can
but at this point in the season they have a lot of games where we still do not know what team will show up from week to week. I do believe they are capable but will they grow, your response says that they will in your opinion and I want to believe that too.
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Keep the faith, brother!
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
They definitely can dig out
Think this way: Dallas was 10-4 in our final 14 games last year. Repeat this year, and we’re 10-6, probably winning the division.
Yes, our offense is out of sync, but in neither game has our line been physically dominated, like we were by Denver/Green Bay/Minnesota last year. Romo isn’t running for his life. He had timing/accuracy issues the first four games of last year, but they figured it out. Remember the throw that put Roy out for the KC game? Remember how on the brink we were in the KC game last year?
That said, I wouldn’t bet that we will turn it around. Jerry’s constant inflation of the team’s stock comes with a cost. Making the Martellus Bennett’s of the world premature celebrities likely doesn’t maximize their development as football players. If Jerry is going to market that way, we need a strong anti-cheese yang to Jerry’s yin. That need not be someone as cranky as Parcells, but it needs to be someone that scares the 25% of players who need to be scared.
by TimSchultz36 on Sep 20, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Parcells would have made a good GM here if Payton had taken the HC job
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Many said we couldn't last year
we did.
This team has definitely shown the ability to overcome adversity the last few years. They’ve actually done pretty well in that area. But when it comes to being the favorites and actually playing like the favorites…thats a different story.
That's a money comment, foyesboys
you are en fuego!!!!
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Imposter!
You are not 5Blings. Where is our 5Blings and what have you done with him?
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 21, 2010 2:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Ah, my poor misguided friend, they're not a good team...
but they have the CAPACITY to be a good (or maybe even great) one if they get their minds right.
I think something big is going to happen and change this team…
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I think we don't have to wait long to find out.
Lets face it, Dallas has a must win week 3 in the NFL this week.
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Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
I think you're right
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Explain "something big"
this could be a whole new post …
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 22, 2010 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Patience...
this one still has legs!
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Here's a good discussion with Eric Allen
On this LINK, he echoes my sentiments about how to open it up more for Romo.
At least this week, he is brilliant.
:-)
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Allen or Calvin Watkins, the link took me to an article by Watkins.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Sorry, click on 'Sportscenter on the Cowboys Struggles'
Allen comes on at the end.
Bishop needs to watch it too!!!
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
The quotes by the players are on the money
The team simply needs to execute better, plain and simple. Has nothing to do with coaching, hype, or whatever, it has to do with the players simply playing better. It’s on them to show up and play.
In Romo we Trust
Which players would you call out, Terry?
Who would you point your finger at and say “YOU NEED TO STEP IT UP”???
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
You think they played that badly?
I think Free has done as well as could be expected. How many times did Peppers get his name called?
Colombo didn’t pull a Vikings-esque disaster.
Kosier helped them, even though I thought Holland acquitted himself nicely. Bigg was Bigg. Gurode…eh.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I think the interior of the line regressed hugely from the Redskins game.
Overall though, I think the true defining characteristic of this team so far is actually that we have a bunch of units that usually play well on the aggregate. The unfortunate addendum to that characteristic is that almost all our units tend to make huge mental gaffes at the worst of times to completely sink the majority of their good play. Whether it is Romo missing a pass to Choice in the flat after making some beautiful throws to get in that position, or our secondary playing good man coverage one play only to blow a coverage the next, this team is just so good at making a really difficult play one play and then blow an easy one the next. What this issue stems from I don’t know, but if we want to beat good teams, you can’t afford to play well for 50 minutes of the game and terrible for 10 minutes.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
Sketchy practice habits
When players start to believe their own press clippings, it’s the coaches’ job to reign them in. They have to create an environment of zero tolerance for errors. I don’t know if Winnie has it in him.
Last year, the GM forced him to wear a mask. This year, he thought he could go back to being good ‘ol boy. It doesn’t work that way in the NFL with the egos and the money and the hype.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
what is zero tolernace BTW?
If they make a mistake you cut them?? What does that mean really?
In Romo we Trust
One of Jimmy's most famous coaching maneuvers was to cut an LB for sleeping in a meeting
…but sadly, this staff doesn’t possess that kind of testicular fortitude.
No, I think the practices have to be about precision. Passes have to be in that six-inch window. No lineman can put their hands outside the shoulder pads or the entire unit runs laps. Missed FG’s means the special teams does extra conditioning.
It’s not that hard.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
You go Full Metal Jacket on the offending unit until they get it
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Really?
Who are the best coaches to ever man a gridiron sideline?
Lombardi? Shula? Landry? Halas? Gibbs? Walsh? Noll?
It seems to me they employed those same strategies and tactics with their paid professionals and that it served them well.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Yeah, but if your big contract guys are the problem how much more cap space will you eat?
Jimmy would cut some veteran minimum or low salary guy, and even if he did cut someone who had a large salary, it was a no salary cap system when he was in dallas. I wonder if he kept the same practice when he went to miami, because by then he was coaching in a salary cap system.
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Those coaches were great
because they coached great players. Guarantee that none of them could stop this Cowboys crew from committing penalties.
You’re just kidding yourself if you think they could.
In Romo we Trust
Those coaches were great because they made their good players great
Your unwillingness to accept that great leaders have won wars, built empires and made others around them better than they would have been without those leaders, is sad for you.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Romo too?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
despite what you and others may think
I’ve never once said or implied Romo was perfect, actually far from it. The difference, however, is that I don’t expect perfection like you and others.
Romo has improved each and every year he’s been in the league and I don’t see that stopping any time soon. He strives for perfection in each and every practice and game although he’ll never achieve it as playing a perfect game is impossible.
If every player would practice and play with the focus and intensity as Romo, we surely wouldn’t be 0-2.
In Romo we Trust
OK, what were Romo's deficiencies in the first two games? Be specific
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His hair was mussed up in pregame and he didn't wear the right baseball cap during the presser
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
So he had some throws that were less than perfect? That is it?
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That's a STINGING criticism
Especially because he said this:
playing a perfect game is impossible
Essentially, he is criticizing him for not doing something he admits is impossible.
Funny circular logic stuff if you think about it.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Blings
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2010/9/21/1701576/tuesday-morning-qb-what-i-liked
I put a mini-APYA/A preview of the Houston game at the bottom of this post and some predictions for the game.
why don’t you drop in and put your predictions for Sunday down in black and white.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Sep 23, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
It is like a Zen Koan
When perfection is impossible, is lack of perfection a criticism?
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In Terry's eyes...
apparently it is.
In fact, the derivative of his criticism of Rom is this;
Romo needs to step up and be perfect.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
But wait...
perfection is impossible.
So, that cannot be right.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Then again, some of his throws were not perfect
…which constitutes a deficiency, as he said stated so clearly.
So…that means…
Hmmm.
I got nuthin.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Let me help you. Perfection is impossible,
despite the expectations of some posters who shall remain nameless. Romo is a terrific QB, but he is not perfect because no one can be, even Peyton Manning, god of all gods. I saw his WRs having to jump for balls quite a lot last weekend. Romo did not have a great game. Some of the throws you and others are angry about were good enough to be caught, and that’s a QB’s job, just like it’s the WR’s to catch any catchable ball. Not every ball, even those thrown by Peyton Manning, god of all gods, is between the numbers. Romo made a couple of truly bad throws. It does not mean that he’s now in the bottom half of QBs in the league. It does not mean that he suddenly needs to be traded, as some morons on the ‘net want to argue. It does mean that he had a less than stellar day. It happens. If he has a less than stellar day every game for the rest of the season, you can do all the "I told you so’s," that you so love to do, that you want. Now back to your regularly scheduled taunting of Terry.
I've concluded that 5Blings is the ID of BTB
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Sep 23, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
If I was the super-ego, I'd have my own blog and never let any of you post a comment
:-)
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
If I was the Id, I would avoid such conflicts like the plague
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
The Fall lineup has changed
Check your TV Guide for time and listing.
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