Patrick Crayton Traded to San Diego Chargers for 2011 7th Rounder
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:00 PM CDT
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Print[UPDATE from Todd Archer: "Crayton trade update: if he catches 40 passes this year the Cowboys get a 6 in return." END UPDATE]
Jason LaConfora and Adam Schefter report that the Cowboys and Chargers have just completed a trade involving Patrick Crayton.
LaConfora tweets:
The Chargers have acquired Patrick Crayton, according to league source. Interesting move. More fortification if they deal Vincent Jackson
Filed to ESPN: Dallas traded WR Patrick Crayton to San Diego. Chargers get another receiver that they could use.
Chargers surrendered a 7th-round pick for WR Patrick Crayton.
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they were obviously going to cut him
why not pick up a 7th in stead… this isn’t madden where you can just force the trades, OBVIOUSLY no one offered more than a 7th, and they OBVIOUSLY were going to cut him… Jerry didn’t get skinned
by CowboysFan4Life on Sep 3, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
The stupid thing is getting rid of Crayton at all.
Lock n Load
by DIRE WOLF on Sep 3, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
why?
he wouldn’t have seen the field much at all behind miles, roy, dez… miles is going to wreck the slot this year… he’ll do twice as much as crayton did, and still produce on the outside, unlike crayton
by CowboysFan4Life on Sep 3, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
You're not taking injuries into account man.
Crayton was a hell of an insurance policy.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
we have plenty of wr depth
to account for injuries
by CowboysFan4Life on Sep 3, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Not anybody that has proven anything.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
again...
crayton has proven he CAN"T GET SEPERATION on the outside, and he’s only getting older and slower
by CowboysFan4Life on Sep 3, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
All i gotta say is dropped pass in the playoff loss to the Giants.
He’s never done anything out of the ordinary (see Miles Austin last season) to be special. He had an opportunity to pass Roy on the chart, but HE DIDNT. As much as we hate Roy, Crayton isn’t as good as him or he’d be #2/3 on the chart, period.
He would be a whiney cancer crying the whole season for playing time, in a season we need unity bad if we want to take it all. I like it cuz I would rather see Ogletree in over Crayton anyday.
Last point (sorry so long): Roy goes against #1 and #2 corners. Crayton goes against the 3rds, safeties, and linebackers. Much easier to catch on a slow ass linebacker. SMART move to get something instead of cut him and let someone have him for free.
Same decision of fail O-Linemen. Send him back to the stinky tuna.
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions
The fact that he didn't pass RW on the depth chart shouldn't be held against him
That depth chart at WR is no meritocracy, imo.
by I_miss_Switzer on Sep 4, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
So you're going to base his entire tenure as a Cowboy off of one play?
Okay.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
This was a youth move.
PC is 31 and we owed him 2 mil. We are going to be good for years.
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by fan since '65 on Sep 3, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
a starter?
you are living in the past my friend
by Pete Mccullagh on Sep 3, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
He wasn't a starter last year.....
at best a 3rd receiver.
I’ve read with 40 catches it could be a 6th.
while I am glad they got something for him
the fact that RW has only played in 16 games once in his career. That Dez has never played a down of NFL ball and has not played football period in a year, and that Austin has only been a starter for 3/4 of the year is a bit concerning. This is something that could come back to bite the Cowboys in the butt.
It shows that the Cowboys are not concerned with keeping the top 53 players. Money has a bit something to do with it. In an uncapped season this does not make sense to me.
"Talent is God-given; be humble. Fame is man-given; be grateful. Conceit is self-given; be careful." John Wooden
I'm with you re. "the butt"
Crayton was probably among the top 30 players in the squad. That’s not something to give up for a 7th pick. This is just disappointing as all heck.
Jerry isn't keeping the best 53, that's for sure.
Hurd makes almost as much $ but Crayton is the better player.
And now, the report is that McQ was traded to Miami
For an “undisclosed” pick in 2011. Maybe it’s a first?!!
No big loss there, I think.
Needed to be more
Glad for Patrick – just not real happy about the value for the team.
Now does this mean Hurd sticks?
The new mantra: No more injuries. No more injuries. Everybody now: NO MORE INJURIES!
I would assume Hurd would stick now...I'd hope.
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I heard on the radio that Hurd could be traded by tomorrow evening
of course this was local radio & I only took it as speculation not as a fact from a source. I would hope that Hird makes the team
by FBH22 on Sep 3, 2010 7:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The key is Special Teams
Crayton was a backup returner. Hurd is a special teams specialist.
Hurd has more value to keep as for his dual role with one of them being a value to EVERY game.
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 1:59 AM CDT up reply actions
That's a Shame
Crayton is worth more to us than a 7th rounder.
The first time one of our receivers gets injured, we’re going to miss him.
which is exactly why so many are decrying this trade
we got back what we could, but it was less than he was worth /to us/. that’s a shame.
Agreed
THIS IS NOT MADDEN. Just because you value him a higher pick, doesn’t mean that the owner’s who have got to cut the checks make the value, and they know more about the way the system works, more about who values who, etc.
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 2:01 AM CDT up reply actions
At least Dallas got something in return.
I really would not call him a starter either…
Glad he is in the AFC at least.
I can still root for the guy.
Go Cowboys.....Go White Sox.....
Crayton
Playoff game vs. Giants…dropped 3rd down conversion…completely shifted momentum in that game…never forgave him…good riddance
plus he made it rain
Oh wait…
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
stupid
Why trade our 2nd best receiver for essentially nothing in an uncapped year?
by Crowboy on Sep 3, 2010 3:05 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
because he wasn't gonna make the team
and he’s not our second best receiver
by Pete Mccullagh on Sep 3, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
too much money old many wide receivers can't play special teams
take your pick all good reasons
by Pete Mccullagh on Sep 4, 2010 7:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Of course he would have made the team
This was obviously about the money, not the quality of the player.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
If that's remotely true
than I am definitely happy he is gone.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
You might want some other players gone too.
Witten and Romo ain’t crazy about the way Wade runs things. Rumor is they think the team needs someone more like Tuna.
Lock n Load
Where are you hearing that?
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
Did that come from the reporter...
in your head?
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he would never have made this team
everybody knows it.
by Pete Mccullagh on Sep 4, 2010 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions
They gotta stockpile picks to move up to get that next bada$$ guard next year.
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For a 7th rounder
I think ""bad" is the operative word
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 3, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
7th round pick????
Are you effing kidding me?
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Disregard my above comment.
I have completely changed my mind after reading all of yours.
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by fan since '65 on Sep 3, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I think this shows just how much other teams think of Crayton.
Crayton isn’t going to be more than the 3rd or maybe even 4th WR in San Diego either.
I’m not so sure that he is going to get any more playing time in San Diego.
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It's not about Crayton's value to the other 31 teams in this league
it’s about his value to the Cowboys.
Crayton is worth more to the Cowboys than a 7th round pick.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 3, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree there.
I understand that, I’m just saying that is what other teams think. I wouldn’t have done it personally but… who know what Dallas thought would occur if they didn’t trade him.
It was obvious he wasn’t happy. I agree with someone down the board, this was done out of loyalty.
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Iron Fist
Tell me again how trading is so complicated?
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2010/8/14/1622809/on-the-bubble-trend-lines#
I’ve read it could be a 6th if he catches 40 passes.
It was the right move for many reasons. I hope JJ makes at least 4 more exports and two more imports for the oline which is the material issue on the team.
It isn’t that complicated Iron Fist. This team needs much more work then what the average fan is willing to accept. It would be scary if the management shared this naive point of view.
Crayton was a “give me the ball” whiner which isn’t anything that out of the ordinary. He dropped the pass of his career in the Giant game. He was a good player but good only goes so far if you are serious about winning the SB.
by Cwon1 on Sep 3, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ok...
and all of this has warranted a slew of 6th and 7th rounders.. not any line depth.
You were talking about getting OL depth, and once again twisting what I have said.
Keep spewing your garbage though.
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What?
Crayton was a "give me the ball" whiner
Never heard that one before. You’re good at this fantasy stuff.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
He wasn't the slighted underachiever?
I can understand his position, it wasn’t like he signed a mega rookie contract and was slated for X # of looks. Yes he whined and thought he was blocked from bigger things throughout his time. At some level that’s a good thing.
He asked to be trade when they drafted Dez. For what he was paid he could have just shut up and showed up to the OTAs. Once he didn’t his days were numbered out of principle. All their days are numbered in some way.
You wonder why the cowboys have so many player relics? Consider this board.
Yeah I'm sure our opinion on Crayton mattered...
give me a break.
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apparently not
Up until an hour ago, that argument could have been rationalized. Now that it’s a done deal, Crayton is worth exactly 1 very late 7th round pick.
by greatwhitenorth on Sep 3, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
They were going to release him...
…which would have gotten us NOTHING. Instead, they traded him, from a position of weakness (since everyone seemed to know we were going to release him – just us fans didn’t want to believe it)….and got a 7th round pick. A 7th round pick is a lot better than NOTHING!
Of course, keeping him, in an uncapped year no less…would have been better than either option in my opinion.
Crayton May Be Worth More Than a 7
to Dallas but he is also taking up a valuable roster spot that will be better utilized on a longer term value to the team; plus, Crayton is just too damn slow in his old age
+1
Maybe he could be their slot guy? Hopefully this also means Vincent Jackson is on the move as well. Also need that fantasy football depth!
They still have Buster Davis though...
who is finally healed and is a former first rounder. I don’t know, I don’t think that he is going to have that big of an impact there.
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True, forgot about him. 4th WR behind a stud TE...
Sounds familiar, but from below sounds like PCray is happy at least.
Guess this just means Scandrick has to practice by himself and stay away from the WRs? lol
Good trade for him.
This may have been one of those instances where Jerry had a bit of loyalty left and traded him to where Patrick could make a difference and not to where he could have received more for him.
Good quaterback over there.
Go Cowboys.....Go White Sox.....
I suspect that it was about the best he got
From all the rumbles, Crayton was likely off the team tomorrow, so why offer more?
Still not all that thrilled about it, but hope Patrick does well in SoCal.
If at first you don't succeed - blame someone else.
True that.
He could’ve easily just been cut w/o any compensation.
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Not so sure
I’m not sure about the technicalities here, but a trade means Crayton keeps his $ 2 million contract. If they’d released him outright, Crayton would have had to renegotiate a contract as a free agent and would likely not have gotten as much.
Looks like Jerry did right by him if my assumption about the contract is correct.
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 3, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
mmmhmm
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
plus by trading him to SD......
we keep him out of the NFC East and possibly Minnesota.
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You’re back!
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, i never thought of that.
Good point. How sick would it make you if we would have taken a 4th Round pick, sent him to Minnesota (or worse released him, to have Minnesota pick him up as a FA), then have to face him possibly twice this season? If they burned us 2x I would have nightmares.
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 2:13 AM CDT up reply actions
You never get what you think you will in draft picks
I agree he was worth more than a 7th (and maybe the Cowboys will get a 6th if he can catch 40) but when you look around the league at players like Santonio Holmes going for a 5th, it’s probably the best deal Jerry could have gotten.
Probably didn’t help that PC and his agent were so public with their trade demands before camp.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
Crayton was also
becoming a disgunteled player & although he wasn’t on TurdO’s level, he was on the same track. plus how does anyone really know what he looked like when the media wasn’t allowed to watch? he peaked in 2007 & i doubt he’s any better 3 years later. they have the personel to replace him & losing a 31 year old WR thats slow won’t stop this team from making a superbowl run. i’m sure it was more then money & a lot to do w/ some younger players that had to much potential to just let get claimed off waivers. also theirs been a lot of talk about J.Holley making huge strides since last year & we won;t see the whole picture until the season is on the way. how many passes do you want Crayton taking from Dez, Austin, Witten & even Bennett if he’s on the verge of a break out year. also Roy is the #2 WR now & his #s are decent for that role & could increase w/ teams having to cover Austin, Dez, Witten & Felix at RB. don;t forget Choice either. theirs just to many weapons on this offense & its time for RoMo to take the next step, if the OL can protect him.
Jerry put Crayton on a decent team & it should allow some of the younger players a chance to make some plays.
Move Over Sweetness, Make A Place For Emmitt!
by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Sep 3, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the deciding factors were attitude and age
After the TO saga, I think this became a case of giving Crayton what he was asking for. He may be lucky to not have been cut and then have to negotiate a new deal (if I understand correctly how that works). And the team has an obvious preference for new/younger players at the skill positions. Hope that takes hold for the O line next year!
I still think the team might have been better off this year with PC, but the decision seems to be more forward looking. And his value was really as a fallback if something happens to Austin, Williams or Bryant. Hopefully, we won’t need the fallback.
If at first you don't succeed - blame someone else.
Someone explain to me...
again why this (uncapped year) isn’t a perfect opportunity to jettison a HUGE mistake named Williams. If 2 million is too much to pat PC, how can JJ justify paying 9 mill to a lesser receiver?
by Crowboy on Sep 3, 2010 3:10 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Cuz Williams will only fetch us a 2019 7th rounder
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
So...
The question is HOW inadequate the compensation is? Ok, now I understand.
by Crowboy on Sep 3, 2010 3:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, it's like a sliding scale.
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm trying to calculate the 2011 equivalent
Somewhere in the 15th round according to this 1965 draft trade value chart
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
hows Roys numbers as a #2 WR?
he had around 800 yards & 8 Tds? his production could rise with the addition of Dez & the breakout year from Austin. also Wittens only getting better & some think (cross ya fingers) that Bennett could have a break out season also so theirs only so many balls to go around.
i think we all have accepted Rpy won;t live up to the #1 Wr contract he signed but he could become a good #2 that has his best year bc of all the other options we have for defenses to cover. if guys like Felix & Bennett have a huge season then it will make a lot more sense why Crayton wasn’t needed. what if Hurd is poised to have a huge year or even ogletree? theirs a reason more then the 2 mil they owed to trade Crayton but no one will know until the seasons under way.
Move Over Sweetness, Make A Place For Emmitt!
by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Sep 3, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Pride.
And there are about 8 billion fanposts and comments on this subject.
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That's the main reason JJ and Wade wanted him gone.
Sick of the fanposts!
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Your subject line sums it up.
Nothing else needs to be said.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
The Lions?
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Front Office Still Bone-Headed as Ever
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 3, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
FOSBHE?
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
JIBTA
Jerry Is Better Than Al (Davis)
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 3, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
That's also Jabba's girl's name.
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha, very nice.
Love that JIBTA’s infamy stretches across multiple SB Nation sites.
by JimmyK on Sep 3, 2010 3:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
In a very weird way
he would be repulsed and pleased at the same time
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 3, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Just pleased...
Any attention is good attention.
by JimmyK on Sep 3, 2010 3:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Because
Jerry already paid him a lot for THIS year, and most of his contract is Guaranteed for THIS Year. If he waits a year it will drop significantly the actual money Jerruh will have to pay him. I think Jerry would’ve had to pay him 7 Million even if he cut him, and when Roy has the potential, not in our system with Dez and Miles and Witten in front of him, to get over 1000 yards why not keep him if you have to pay him and he isn’t completely ruining the team
by nicholas.rodriguez on Sep 3, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
The agent speaks on it...
“I haven’t seen him this excited in while,” Lyles said. “It’s a done deal.”
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Galloway and Company Thinks it's Personal with Jerry and Wade
They say that Jerry and Wade developed a personal dislike for Crayton. They quote Matt Mosley’s reporting.
I would too.
He needs to shut the front door sometimes.
Gonna be fun seeing him and Rivers yell at each other.
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha
I think PC knows to be nice to the QB if you want the ball.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
That's true. He is a passionate team guy.
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions
And as much as I like Crayton...
it isn’t like he is obstained from running his mouth. He did talk way too much for who he was in the league.
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But that's how they do it in Texas El-Paso.
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
S.Holmes was had for a 5th
& even if he misses a few games he’s worth way more then Crayton. the Chargers can’t give V.Jackson away ( ii know the troubles he brings but B.Marshall is 1 slip up from a huge vacation also). also what did the Cardinals get for Boldin? the seahawks can’t find a trade for TJ either but i’m sure someone will sooner or later pick him up.
its not just Jerry, theirs a lot of other GMs struggling to trade players
Move Over Sweetness, Make A Place For Emmitt!
by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Sep 3, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm beginning to think that Jerry is purposely trying to not get the Cowboys to the Super Bowl.
There’s more money in it for him that way.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
How do you figure that?
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More money to the area anyway.
Money from other markets coming in and not just re-circulating money that’s already here.
I don’t know if that’s really his plan or not, but the only thing that Jerry loves more than this symbol “☆” is this one “$”.
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dude how'd you do that star?
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Heh.
It’s one of the alt commands. I couldn’t figure it out though, so I just googled “how do you make a star with the keyboard”, found one and copy/pasted.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
nice
forgot about google for a minute.
all this Crayton talk is too exciting
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alt codes works for alot of things
think it depends on the unicode (which comes from the browser)
USE something like (without spaces)
& # 10029 ; ✭
& # 10025 ; ✩
Crayton said in the off season he would be cut or traded
at the end of preseason. That’s why he skipped OTAs.
Lock n Load
+17
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Good riddance PC. He torched us last season.
by JimmyK on Sep 3, 2010 3:14 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
not to nitpik...
but EVERYBODY in dallas torched you last season :)
by greatwhitenorth on Sep 3, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
very ouch
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
And Olgeltree had a nice knock out tackle on Macho Harris in the playoff game
It's only a dream till you write it down, and then it becomes a goal.
-Emmitt Smith
We’ll see.
For now, I’ll just be happy Crayton’s gone for crappy compensation.
by JimmyK on Sep 3, 2010 3:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
a 7th is a gift
He was going to be released…the entire NFL knew it…..
A gift… Or they just traded their 2nd most productive WR in ’09 for a 7, and likely a late 7 at that?
by JimmyK on Sep 3, 2010 3:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
he was gone either way
either trade him for a 7th, or release him and get nothing. I’d rather get the 7th.
Gotta wonder what offers may have been available 6 weeks ago… Or on draft day…
Bottom line is that they didn’t maximize his value. Botched this one.
by JimmyK on Sep 3, 2010 3:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Santonio Holmes with for a 5th
Cromartie went for a 3rd
I doubt there was anything else more out there.
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Tedd Gin went for a 5th and a virgin daquiri too.
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I think your missing the point, I thought you were smarter than that
He was going to be released why would any team give up a draft pick knowing that? Not sure how else to explain it to u..
Smarter? Dude, he's a Philly fan.
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe San Diego didn't want the hassel
of contending with any other team that might be interested (Rams) in a free agent bidding war. So they just got the sure trade.
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by fan since '65 on Sep 3, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
So you got a late 7, which is a slight step up from an unstaffed free agent. Congrats.
I wonder what Tony Romo thinks of this trade.
by JimmyK on Sep 3, 2010 3:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He says sweet, I can finally throw some with Hurd.
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
what do you think Holleys chances are?
could Hurd be the next to go or do they keep 6 Wrs bc it seemed like a lot of talk about Holley’s potential at Wr & ability to play STs. i read theirs more deals/cuts to come so who knows whats in the mix but i’m sure Joe D wants to keep atleast 1 of his aces on STs but then again McCray has been doing great as a gunner,
i like Hurd & we don’t know his full potential as a QR but i know the guy works harder then most the Wrs on the roster.
Move Over Sweetness, Make A Place For Emmitt!
by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Sep 3, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
QR=WR
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by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Sep 3, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Holley has got to be the most over-hyped player I've ever seen
Why he’s even mentioned as a candidate to make this team is a complete mystery. They guy has done zip. He’s a totally replaceable ST player, and less than that as a WR. He should thank a higher power if he makes the PS again. JMO
Hurd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Holley
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
IMO, it's the exact opposite (Holley is GOOD)
I don’t believe he’s been given the opportunities as Hurd and Ogletree so we haven’t been able to see his full potential. From what we did see in that last preaseason game I can say that he is QR potential. He’s been proving his abilities on ST already so he deserves a spot on the team now that we’ve made some space! Hurd might be leaving anyway with his price-tag. So that’ll be even more of a reason to sign Holley to the 53. Coaches have obviously been impressed with him so we’ll see what happens!
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I was answering scandrick32's question of
He was going to be released why would any team give up a draft pick knowing that?
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by fan since '65 on Sep 3, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
considering tony romo wasn't drafted
maybe we pick up an solid 7th rounder… like a jay ratliff, or a romo or MILES AUSTIN
by CowboysFan4Life on Sep 3, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
we can always hope...
but if it were that easy, we’d have a guy like that in every round, wouldn’t we?
You're just mad because Philly wanted him
and Jerry’s smart enough not to deal in the division.
Lock n Load
I'm agreeing with BD
I bet Garrett and Romo will miss PC. But on the other hand, Dez now has more chances.
a 7th isn’t much, but we got Ratliff in the 7th, so it’s still something
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
Doubt it.
I would bet Jerry consults the coaches way more than you think. Hell, on Hard Knocks, he was in the freaking coaches meeting talking about roster moves. If JG thought Crayton was really necessary to the offense’s success he would still be here in my opinion.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
How do you know what I think?
I’m as tuned into the Cowboys as you my friend, I think I know Jerry is the ultimate micro manager.
All I said was they’d miss PC, not that Garrett thought he was critical to the success of the offense. A bit of a difference in those two statements.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
Oh my bad.
I thought you were implying that Garrett and Romo weren’t on board with the move. And my point was simply that I am sure Jerry checked with them beforehand (or at least with JG).
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 3, 2010 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah but we'll be getting our next All-Pro with the pick.
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
just so you know
1/2 of crayton’s memorable plays of last season came against Philly.
He was a good red zone threat, he had a big play against the Bucs, and other than that, the only damage he did was against you….
I’m a crayton fan because hes a reliable player on an offense full of unreliable ones, but he didn’t exactly light it up – you could even argue that we should expect significantly more from a 3rd wr than what he gave us.
I'm right there with you.
I like him alot, but this is a huge overreaction to a mediocre player.
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by Iron Fist on Sep 3, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Crayton only had his career year in '07.
Because he put up nearly 200 yards against an awful Rams secondary. The guy played his role well but he isn’t making or breaking this or any other team’s Super Bowl hopes.
i agree
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by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Sep 3, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Crayton was originally drafted in the 7th round
Like Aaron commented above, at least Dallas got something for him.
And like NFL.com’s Jason LaCanfora said, teams probably knew that the Cowboys were gonna cut him anyway this Saturday.
Honestly, I wish we didn’t have to cut him at all.
Is playing smart too much to ask?
exactly
when other teams no he is going to be cut ur lucky to even get a 7th at this point…People who call this a dumb move are clueless
True...
We also got Ratliff in the 7th. Maybe we should trade him for a 7.
by Crowboy on Sep 3, 2010 3:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
7 firsts maybe
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
traded crayton for josh brent
since we gave up our 7th next year for josh brent, and got a 7th back .. hopefully we’ll have moved up a few spots in the 7th round ;)
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
What a Deal!
Great perspective….Crayton for Brent.
Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.
Oh yeah, forgot about that
Unless PC can get 40+ catches in SD.
Something new for Cowboys fans to root for. We want a 6th! We want a 6th!
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
it also allows
us to keep 3 NTs is thats the position they use to fill for Craytons trade.
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by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Sep 3, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
About the time I think Jerry is catching on to being a GM,
he pulls a bonehead move like this.
Lock n Load
Its not that bad of a move
If Crayton stayed on the Cowboys he would be inactive nearly every game, only 4 receivers go to the game and it would be Miles, Dez, Roy, KO or Hurd. So he wouldn’t have even been out there to make a play, and I don’t think Hurd is much of a drop-off as a receiver, he still has some upside, and is a better special teams player and it also opens up so that we can keep either 6 safeties or 3 NTs
by nicholas.rodriguez on Sep 3, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm surprised they couldn't get more
from a team like the Rams that needs a WR.
Better than zero though.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Sep 3, 2010 3:20 PM CDT reply actions
I'm not
nobody’s gonna trade jack for a 31 year old receiver whose best asset is his relationship with his former qb
It will be a 6th rounder next year
Crayton will probably catch 40 for them if Jackson holds out
by nicholas.rodriguez on Sep 3, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
That's hardly a given
Gates and Floyd will just see more come their way until (if) V. Jax returns. Crayton will see a couple here and there, but I doubt he averages the 2.5/game needed to reach the 40 mark. They’re pretty high on Nanee’s potential out there.
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Yeah I agree.
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He could do it, it's theoretically possible
But I would say the chances aren’t good, unless one of Rivers other targets goes down with injury.
They want to run the ball a lot, then go to Gates, Floyd, Lego Nanny, then PC and Buster.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
maybe Jerry
finds another team to trade Hurd or Holley to so it might not be over. now Craytons gone were not as desperate to trade a WR & could still keep 6 so maybe another team comes us this time. its just a thought
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by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Sep 3, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Does this make Crayton the automatic #2 WR in SD, by default?
Obviously this all hinges on Vincent Jackson holding out.
Malcolm Floyd is the #1 for now.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
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No
Crayton isn’t going to beat out Nanee, he might not even beat out Craig Davis
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you think?
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Buster?
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Davis sucks
PC can beat him out. But he’s more of a downfield threat anyway isn’t he? PC and Nanny are similar.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
Good
it wasn’t going to work here anymore. Yeah I wish we could have gotten more than a 7th, but let’s face it …. he’s not worth more than that. True, his value was more than that to the Cowboys, but this was going to go one of 2 ways ….. either he gets traded for something, or he gets released and we get nothing.
Yeah it’s “only” a 7th, but it very easily could have been for nothing at all.
Reminiscing...
Since the Cowboys invested a 7th rounder in him in 2004, his stats are…
caught 196 passes for 2,888 yards and 23 touchdowns in 82 games — including 33 starts.
Can that production be replaced? Now, they have that pick back.
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its like buying a car
for $10k in 2004 .. driving it 100,000 miles and beating the crap out of it .. and then getting your $10k back today ;)
by faenix on Sep 3, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
good analogy
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
You'd be right, if you can guarantee that you get 196 receptions, 2888 yards, and 23 TDs from that 7th rounder.
It’s really like trading a winning lottery ticket…for another lottery ticket, after the first has been used up. It might work out, but probably not to the same degree.
He was a good player for the Cowboys
I wish he could have stayed another year.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
Mixed feelings about this.
Crayton had the potential to be a distraction as the season went on and he lost snaps and catches to Dez, and there’s no sense is keeping Dez on the bench (if he’s healthy) just to placate Crayton. The Dez Era needs to start sooner rather than later.
On the other hand, Crayton was a reliable safety valve for Romo, and always seemed to find the open spots underneath.
I think I’d feel happier if we had received a warm body on the O-line in return, but I suspect this is a situation where Crayton was more valuable to us than he was to anyone else.
See, that's the thing.
Crayton wasn’t going to gradually lose snaps to Dez. Those were going to be Dez’s snaps period.
Crayton is 31
I’ve said this many times: it is better to get rid of a player a year too soon than a year too late.
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I agree.
I like Crayton, but I don’t see this as a “boneheaded” move.
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yeah It looked like he was going to be cut anyways
at least we got something for him
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Nope.
They’ll just get a stud DE with this 7th.
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Good luck finding a "stud" OG/C in the 7th
Unless you plan on stockpiling and trading up at some point, that 7 won’t go far into helping the Oline woes.
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I Never Liked Crayton
He cost the Cowboys dearly in the Giants playoff loss; he is slow as a mule. He played tough and did well for Dallas; he got a good contract from Jerry . . . so good marriage; time to move on.
well said
Plus, I’d be pissed if they traded Dez for a 7th!
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
because Roy knows his role
He knows he cant be moved because of his contract, and since he HAS to be paid that money…Why cut a guy when it doesn’t fiscally benefit you?
Roy won the lottery
He gets $45 million for producing nothing.
Roy doesn’t have a care in the world. He’s floating on air. Nothing can bother him. Not player moves, not stats, not anything a coach says. He’s made for life.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 3, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
all that money, and the Longhorn faithful still revere him, and always will
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Woooo
I’m a Longhorn faithful and I find him to be a huge dissapointment. But then again I think with objectivity.
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As down as I am on RW
He still collects TDs and those win games.
Miles Austin: Covered
Jason Witten: Covered
Roy Williams: Wide Open
Trusting Your Wide Receiver To Make The Catch: Priceless
I never like him
Mouth was always greater than his talent. Seemed like he had the potential to be a cancer in the locker room. At 31, he wasn’t going to get any better. Time to move one and give the younger guys a shot.
Good luck to Patrick, no chance of him burning us in the future.
Shameful...and stupid.
So a guy who has been here and produced in the clutch through all the TO/RW/Dez BS and still was there and able to CATCH THE BALL is banished elsewhere and …. we got a way overpriced dude and a diva-in-waiting who didn’t play his SENIOR year ‘cause he has bad judgement AND is a liar. I don’t even know if that is a sentence but I’m too annoyed to bother checking it to see…. I just am too disgusted with the bizarre and wrong values that seem to be in play on these WR decisions.
However, Pat does deserve to be somewhere where he will be used and his contribution will be valued.
Oh, and on the stupid part: They’re gonna be wishing they had him back.
"Diva"
Have you ever listened to Patrick Crayton talk?
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Church may have a better shot to make the 53 now, though.
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
+42
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
You read too much ESPN.
Dez isn’t a Diva, and if anything, getting rid of Crayton was the best move to keep him from learning from one. He got kicked out for most of the year because the NCAA is retarded and has huge double standards.
OMG . . . . this is so wrong on so many levels
. . . dissing Dez and crying over Crayon? you used the words shameful and stupid and I couldn’t agree more . . . as to describing your post
Sentimental over Patrick freakin' Crayton?
Can’t seem to muster up the tears to be bawling my eyes out or huffing and puffing in frustration. Can’t do it.
Crayton's the mo-mo who looked forward to a Super Bowl rematch with the Patsies.
Then didn’t do anything to make it happen when the chips were down.
Hey Karenspirit
I like PC, and I can tell your upset, but lay off Dez, he’s not a diva, he was a kid who made a mistake.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
Sad to see him go but..
we did get younger at reciever and I’m glad we got something in return
Ramifications on the 53
1) 5 wide receivers make this roster
2) Hurd is one ST gunner, leaving only one spot open
Think McCann....
makes the 53?
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Not if he loses out to Obama again.
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
The Crayton move does indicate the front office believes in "hope and change"
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 3, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
"Change you can believe in"
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by fan since '65 on Sep 3, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
You're on a roll!
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that's what 4day weekends can do for a guy
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You guys are way too conservative with the rec button over here.
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by TXHC on Sep 3, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
That is the truth
Folks, rec the living daylights out of every good comment. Let’s see them all turn green.
Man I’m having more fun here than in any open game thread. Ha!
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 3, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Most fun I've had here.
- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Sep 3, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I think this is an Open Thread...lol
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
totally agree
rec’d!
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
See guys?
I’ve got two of the writers of the blog agreeing with me. If a comment is funny or makes you say “hell yeah!” rec it up.
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by TXHC on Sep 3, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
i agree on McCann
i think McCann (cb) makes more sense then Church (4.6in the 40) SS thats easy to find anywhere. plus wheres Scandrick been all TC? he’s been beat in preseason games & seems to have regressed some last year & so far this season. i hope he picks it up when then lights come on. both Scandrick & Ogletree have something to prove this year.
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by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Sep 3, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm shocked at all the backlash.
It isn’t something I would have done but… the guy WANTED out. He wanted to be traded or released.
I’m a Pat fan but 80% of you wanted him cut after he dropped that pass against the Giants in the playoffs.
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You're a Pats fan?
I knew it dude.
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh well, at least we still have RW.
Lock n Load
by DIRE WOLF on Sep 3, 2010 3:28 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Yes. Everything is becoming clear to me now.
Patrick Crayton must have been the progress stopper holding RW back.
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 3, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
That's a good point.
Both are good interviews but…
don’t know how to finish the sentence.
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
"I can see clearly now, the (PC) is gone..."
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by fan since '65 on Sep 3, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
OCC is right
PC was probably giving Roy the opposite advice he asked for on route running and how to catch
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
LOL
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Dear Dez
if you come out and ball this year, you’ll all make us say, “Patrick Who?” Please do so. Thanks.
Me.
by Dub_TC on Sep 3, 2010 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Dear Dez
Please only leave burn marks on opponent’s turf…Jerry is trying to keep his overhead down.
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
he already has me saying
“patrick who”
by CowboysFan4Life on Sep 3, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
This team just became harder to root for
As fans, one of the things we hope for is that the players care as much as we do. Crayton played hard, and he appeared to care. Can’t say the same thing about Roy. Jerry"s long list of idiotic moves just got longer.
He has quite a laundry list going this offseason.
Hopefully he makes me eat crow, that’s about the only hope I have left.
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Really?!
Holy crap, the release of Patrick Crayton has made this team hard to root for?
The same team that has had a coke head, a pot head, a guy with guns in his trunk, hired Barry Switzer as a coach, etc. etc. and THIS is what makes it hard?
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I said harder
As bad as the things Irvin did off the field were, his passion on the field was never questioned. I’m not comparing Crayton to Irvin. I’m saying it’s easier to pull for a guy that plays with some fire like Crayton than it is for someone that plays with virtually no fire like Williams.
Hey wanted out!
He wanted out. He wanted the trade or a release. So if Dallas didn’t they would have been looked at as selfish for keeping a guy that hardly would see the field.
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by Iron Fist on Sep 3, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If he wanted out, I can't complain
I’m just tired of seeing Roy lumber downfield play after play without getting separation, while consistenly being in a different spot than where Romo thinks he’s going to be.
If you read the comments at the top
Jerry did him a solid, if he was cut, which he would’ve been, he wouldn’t have gotten to keep his 2 mil dollar deal, and Jerry didn’t send him to some abyss out there where he would be lucky to win 3 games, he sent him to a place with a good team already…. And wouldn’t you rather see what KO could become rather than what PC is?
by nicholas.rodriguez on Sep 3, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd rather have what PC is.
Crayton is very underappreciated by Cowboy’s fans.
Everyone points out that Crayton had better stats than RW, which is true, and kinda interesting.
What’s even more interesting is maybe RW is good, and Crayton had better stats because Crayton is a really good WR. I know that’s a bold position to take. However, advanced statistics suggest that it is a possibility (sort by EPA / A). Crayton is 13th in the NFL.
http://wp.advancednflstats.com/playerstats.php?year=2009&pos=WR&season=reg
Hard to say right now. We can only watch what happens in SD.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Sep 3, 2010 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll miss Patrick Crayton, the receiver on the field
I won’t miss Patrick Crayton, the receiver who’s complained off the field ever since Dez got drafted.
I do wish him well. But I think he got what he truly wanted.
and we got back our initial investment on him. That's good business judgment
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yes you can, roy is actually a hard worker guy
he just is not as talented as jerry and we cowboys fans thought and hope to be
If I didn't abandon the boy's
in the Dave Campo era shiver then making a trade of a player regardless of who or what he was won’t hurt. I want my team to succeed this year but I’ll take a decade of sustainability over a flash in the pan.
Miles Austin: Covered
Jason Witten: Covered
Roy Williams: Wide Open
Trusting Your Wide Receiver To Make The Catch: Priceless
He had his chance.
Ogletree has been here for a shorter amount of time and they bumped him ahead of Hurd. Hurd has to really fight for it if he wants it to happen.
I hope not
Hurd is a special teamer. That’s all, and that’s another reason this was a dumb move.
He's an expensive special teamer
If that’s the case. Holley would cost so much less… If Ogletree is truly 4th in the lineup then I see Hurd being cut or traded as well. It’d only make sense financially.
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I think he will be
Ogletree doesn’t do enough STs to be on the active roster, Dez will be PR, AoA probably will be the KR, KO doesn’t have a real spot unless Roy gets injured……
by nicholas.rodriguez on Sep 3, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Right now, yes
Ogletree needs to step his game up. He hasn’t looked like he did last season. But eventually, I see Austin, Dez and Ogletree as the future top 3 guys.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
the steelers have made,
justin hartwig-center available…
any interest from us?…..
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
Noooooooooo!
he allowed 7 sacks last year. To put that into perspective, 11 other NFL centers COMBINED also allowed 7 sacks last year. Gurode allowed 2.
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was just wondering,
as always thanks for the info OCC : )
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Not compared to the market this year.
He is going for what he should have gone.
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He isn't going to beat out alot of guys there.
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He thinks he has a shot at the #2 WR spot but I doubt it.
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Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
I haven't followed the Chargers; they have all those giant
receivers, or they did. Why would he think he’ll be #2?
It means they really like Dez, Hurd and Ogletree
And, thought that Crayton was overpaid, in the way, and potentially going to pout and whine if he was buried on the depth chart. I’m not understanding the groundswell of anger about this move. Crayton was just a guy, and his time in Dallas had run its course.
The problem is, what if one of the top guys goes down?
Then what?
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Then Hurd or Ogletree step in
Are they capable? I don’t know, but it’s Jerry and Wade’s job to know. We’ll find out!
That's what worries me.
Crayton was proven. I think those guys are probably capable, but I’d feel a lot better with Craton in there.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
crayton was proven to not get seperation on the outside
by CowboysFan4Life on Sep 3, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Crayton had Romo's trust and could be counted on to make most of the catches that came his way.
That can’t be underestimated.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
yeah he had his trust
so does jason witten…. so does miles austin
by CowboysFan4Life on Sep 3, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I hate to dwell on this but
Crayton had Romo’s trust and could be counted on to make most of the catches that came his way.
Except for that critical play in the Giants playoff game.
I knew somebody would bring that up.
Outside of that and a couple of other critical drops he’s been generally pretty reliable.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
he wasn't worth it to keep the 1 or 2 reliable catches he would make every 2 or 3 games
and still have to keep up with his mouth, he was the last piece of the attitude changing house clearing.. i back this move up 100%
by CowboysFan4Life on Sep 3, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but that one was just so awful
I will go to my grave seeing that as the single most pivotal moment in that game.
The third down drop earlier in the second half on the shallow crossing pattern
when it looked like he could’ve run for 30 yards after the catch was pretty big , too.
Yeah, he just needs his chance.
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
He's looked great all pre-season
But then again, he always plays pretty well in pre-season.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
the problem is: Who is going to get open on busted thrid down plays?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
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Dez
haha I don’t know, but hopefully.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
I would think so
or Miles, I think Hurd has a little bit of that in him, I do remember he did that a few times in the 07 season when he was the number 3
by nicholas.rodriguez on Sep 3, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree with you Nic
Hurds play at WR is similar to PC’s
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
Third downs?
I thought we weren’t going to have any of those this season….
Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable. --
Tom Landry
Ok, I had to do it. The Voices forced me to look up some stats
Last year, the Cowboys had more 7th rounders (seven players) on their roster and playing at least one game in the league than any other draft round except for the first round.
In 2010, even without Crayton, we’ll still have seven 7th rounders, again more than any other draft round except first rounders.
The 7th rounder is the cornerstone of the Cowboys resurgence of the last few years! Jerry did well in refusing San Diego’s offer of a 5th or 6th rounder. His insistence on a 7th round compensation shows remarkable foresight.
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 3, 2010 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 14 recs
rec'aroonie
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
brilliant!!
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I lived in SD for 9 years.
He will love it there.
- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Sep 3, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Unfortunately. That's why I left.
- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Sep 3, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Eh, he plays in the NFL.
He’ll be fine.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
PC has a State Income Tax Shock Waiting
You have to be mad at your money to live there…happy trails.
Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.
by 1Bullseye on Sep 3, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely great comment!
You have to be mad at your money to live there
ROFL – I moved from no state income tax to VA (state income tax), it’s a shocker all right!
When in doubt, empty your magazine
Absolutely.
I lived on the hill overlooking the stadium and in Pacific Beach. IMO, one of the best downtowns in the country, especially after they built the ballpark.
- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Sep 3, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Very nice
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
Strange though...
because they already have Naanee, Floyd and Buster Davis as their top 3 (assuming they trade Vincent Jackson.
So he goes from being #3 here (at least until Dez beat him out) to being #4 there.
I think we should have gotten more, but if I could say one thing to PC, it would be, “be careful what you wish for…”
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
he has a quote on BSPN
“i have a legit shot to be a no.2”
lol
by CowboysFan4Life on Sep 3, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Said the same thing.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
Too bad. Romo had confidence in him. That said, he made it pretty
clear he wasn’t happy, and the Cowboys don’t need the bellyaching.
Aaron, I hope you’re right, and this is some covert plan to stockpile for O line picks.
what did they get for him?
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
probably a cup of water......
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Cup of intracoastal waterway water.....
- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Sep 3, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Miami overpaid.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
by TXHC on Sep 3, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
lol
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
A bottle of water is too much
I cannot believe anybody would want this guy after last night. Parcel and Tony “I Wear My Sunglasses At Night” Soprano are obsessed with collecting all the OL scrubs they left if Dallas. McQ completes the set.
Thank you Dolphins!
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
if we got a nickel
we should take it and run with it, because we got a steal
by faenix on Sep 3, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's on DC.com
but I haven’t seen the compensation yet. It actually appeared on the Facebook DC.com first and linked in to DC.com
THEN IT'S TIME TO CELEBRATE!!!
I never thought we’d get anything for McQuistan. He is TERRIBLE with a capital everything.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 3, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL!
I thought the McQ trade was just a joke here. Whoo-hoo!
- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Sep 3, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Proctor and McQuistan
They’re now a dual-threat offense!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 3, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
and Joe hamBerger
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Stephen Jones presser
going on right now. He announced the trades, but declined to give details until approved by the NFL.
Tuna always had a woody for McQuistan
And I still have no idea why. The guy has done nothing but take up a roster spot for us.
He didnt want to be here.
He wasnt going to get much burn at WR, and other options have emerged in the return game. At least we got SOMETHING in return.
OBSERVATION - EMOTION = COMMON SENSE
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Sep 3, 2010 3:54 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
lets be honest
he didn’t do much in the return game… he had 2 lucky returns where he found a crease… itwasn’t his skill, it was the return game blocking… he wasn’t a bad returner, but its not llike we lost anything… i like this trade, just because we didn’t just outright cut him
by CowboysFan4Life on Sep 3, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
My nephew called him "Fair Catch Crayton"
During a game 4-5 years ago. I fell out laughing.
- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Sep 3, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I know a ton of people call him that,
I just laughed so hard the first time I heard it was from my nephew.
- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Sep 3, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Reasons why this site is 10 times better than DC.com
They have those stupid blog pages for Eatman, Ellis, and Phillips but barely have anything about Crayton right now. What’s the point if you aren’t breaking news with them?
McQ's trade is for undisclosed draft pick
Probably conditional on if he makes the team or something.
http://dallas.sbnation.com/2010/9/3/1668240/dallas-cowboys-trade-pat-mcquistan-miami
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
no pick then : (
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
First thing in my mind before I scrolled down.
- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Sep 3, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Another 7th rounder gone
of course, we need a 7th as compensation here as well.
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 3, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
If he gets 50 pancakes though, we get a 4th.
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
more chance of him eating 50 ; )
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
ha!
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
He could handle that in one sitting at IHOP probably.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
lol
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe we have to give them a pick,
just to take him off our hands!!!!!
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
This just in:
Dallas trades McQuistan and a 2011 7th round pick to Miami for…… taking him to IHOP.
- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Sep 3, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Dallas got boned on the McQuistan trade.
They should’ve gotten a ham sandwich at least.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
He would have just eaten it on his way out.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
i can see that the fans,
will miss his play……..nottttttttt….
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
All Trades Done??
I think Not. Will we keep 3 Nose Tackles?
Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.
Let's trade all of the guys we're going to cut plus that shiny new 7th rounder for some O-line help.
Please??
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
by TXHC on Sep 3, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
as OCC said above,
we own 7th rd steals…get more jerry……..
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Courtney Brown, Manuel Johnson, Mike Mickens, Pat McQuistan, E. J. Whitley, and Sean Lissimore
Might disagree.
Alan Ball is the only 7th round surprise in the last 5 years.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 3, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
ratliff????
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, he's okay
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahaha
understatement ……….
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
2005 NFL draft
and one hell of a good draft pick.
But in the last 5 years, they’re only 1-for-7 on 7th round draft picks. And that one might really be no better than a backup, my opinion is that Ball doesn’t keep his starting job next year, but that’s just speculation.
We got a few good 7th rounders, and those are always great surprises. But let’s not go overboard in thinking a 7th rounder is something to get excited about.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 3, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Come on people, don't stop now.
This last hour has been too much fun.
- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"
TRADE UPDATE
[UPDATE from Todd Archer: “Crayton trade update: if he catches 40 passes this year the Cowboys get a 6 in return.” END UPDATE]
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
chew on that one
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Now it is a great trade.
- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Sep 3, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
That softens the blow somewhat
I would consider it a solid trade if it was a 6th with a conditional 5th should he perform well.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 3, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
just one more day, I promise
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
nice he defn can do that if VJ is trading
Im sorry guys but Gates is going down this year…
Really?! Really?!
40? hmm
Crayton’s catch totals
06: 36
07: 50
08: 39
09: 37
I sure hope those 40 include the postseason, and I hope have a deep run.
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 3, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
we could let him have his 40th
in the superbowl!!!!!!
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd rather have a 7th.
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
cracking up here!!!!!!
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup.
Despite having a very good preseason, the Cowboys have released fan favorite DL Marcus Dixon. We will be back!
http://twitter.com/ProFootballMgmt/status/22920380736
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I would think they'd keep Lissemore over Dixon.
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
on the PS that is
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Glad JJ didn't deal with them devils.
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Nobody told Philly that smart teams don't deal within division.
Lock n Load
by DIRE WOLF on Sep 3, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Face!
Count it!
- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Sep 3, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
screw philly grrrrrr
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
If this is true, we will have a blast with BGN
- Our O-line may be old, but you wanted Crayton.
- I may be an bandwagon fan, but you wanted Crayton.
- Witten may have had less TDs in 09 than Celek, but you wanted Crayton
You get the idea
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 3, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
lmaoooo
go get em OCC
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I hate that we lost Crayton
but if we were going to cut him, at least we got a pick and didn’t screw him over. This has to be a best case scenario for him.
this topic is bumping
I totally blame that Novinger guy …. for the bumping topic that is. He’s all over this thing right now.
Crayton
I was sad at first, but if its what he wants then good for him. They got back what they originally paid and a pick, which is more than I expected – I honestly thought it was gonna be a player trade.
Good:
Happy Crayton aka no locker room drama over unhappy players
Crayton gets out before he becomes over-the-hill on us for what he cost
Youth Movement – opportunity for Hurd / KO
$2M free’d up as well as the ROSTER spot, which we are really needing (OL, secondary)
Bad:
Reliable vet WR for Romo is gone
Possibly this could have gone better if it were sooner?
Wow
do I actually see green comments on this thread?
by Dub_TC on Sep 3, 2010 4:31 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
yessssss
rec is recd ; )
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
But not enough
we only have two green ones so far. So here is the rec protocol for all the newbies.
To recommend a comment, you click on the little “action” button at the bottom of the comment. Do that, and you get three options: Rec, Flag and Hide. Press Rec for a comment you like.
Now go back and read this post from top to bottom and rec to your heart’s content.
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 3, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
I think it takes 4 to make them green right?
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
You're welcome.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
well..well...well...
Look who was on the money….it came down to special teams like I’ve tried to hammer home to you guys..at least we got something because he would’ve been cut otherwise.
by Boyzfan94 on Sep 3, 2010 4:37 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Good job.
Now continue in the same breath saying that Bobby Carpenter wasn’t a bust so that all credit can be renounced.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
I know you, Terry and some others had a man crush on Crayton, but the truth is he was an average WR...
who was only getting older, slower and did nothing to improve this team on special teams…been saying it for awhile now. Hurd is faster, younger and good hands much like Crayton minus…….his BIG mouth….
I don't have a mancrush on him.
I could see both sides. Once again… the defender of Bobby Carpenter shoud not be casting stones.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
by Iron Fist on Sep 3, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
I swear I didn’t read your comment before I made mine
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
Good for you, have a cookie
No one had anything close to the mancrush you displayed for Barbie, so I wouldn’t throw stones.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
I was scrolling down the whole time with baited breath looking for this post.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
Oh, he's probably 'bating all right.
I don’t know what that scoundrel Crayton ever did to him but the hate-on was intense.
Hey, that boring old safety you scoffed at even considering drafting has his first TD before Dez.
Courtesy of none other than Queen Favre. Granted it was meaningless being preseason and all and that the Cowboys never had a shot at him but I just don’t want you to give yourself too big of a hand unless it’s across the face.
GAC says Leon Williams makes the team
2009 BTB Fantasy Champ... Deal with it
by quincyyyyy on Sep 3, 2010 4:39 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Sweet!
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Good
I think they’ll need the extra depth at ILB, and there’s a ST’er for Coach D
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
Hope that's right.
he’s looked better than Jason Williams. We need to keep the right Williams.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
McQ for a 6th rounder
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Ireland and Parcells are off their rockers!
2009 BTB Fantasy Champ... Deal with it
by quincyyyyy on Sep 3, 2010 4:45 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
no wayyyyyy.....
they are on drugs…………
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I think when Ireland heard that McQ's mother wasn't a prostitute that sealed the deal
2009 BTB Fantasy Champ... Deal with it
by quincyyyyy on Sep 3, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
hahaha
nice one : )
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Crayton is a 6th if he catches 40 balls
which is extremely likely with Rivers at QB
2009 BTB Fantasy Champ... Deal with it
Ryan Matthews says you are wrong :)
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
maybe mcq,
is great at carrying luggage?….
or giving tuna back rubs……..
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Dez to Ireland yesterday
“We get a 6th for McQ or I’ll tell Michael Silver the other stuff you asked me.”
Ireland resignedly agrees, gets videotape of the Tuna out of the safe to get Parcells to agree as well.
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 3, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
What does this mean? I'm confused. Are they just swapping 6ths?
For McQuistan – They will receive Miami’s sixth round pick only if the Dolphins have a worse record in 2010 and therefore a higher pick in the round.
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
That means Dallas has to win the Super Bowl to guarantee this 6th.
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Or...
hope for the Dolphins to implode. Even then, you’re still talking about only moving up a couple dozen spots in the 6th round. But hey, that’s about all you can hope for in compensation for a player like McQuestion.
Rabid and luvin' it
We don't need McQuestion now that we have the Ansah.
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
i just need to ask ..
their 6th rounder .. or ours?!
Holy crap today is awesome then.
McQ absolutely sucks. I would have given him away for nothing.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
Pat McQuistan to Miami
for a conditional draft pick..more then likely a 6 I understand that OL grabs a premium but Pat Q is worth more then crayton…. that just seems wrong to me.
Miles Austin: Covered
Jason Witten: Covered
Roy Williams: Wide Open
Trusting Your Wide Receiver To Make The Catch: Priceless
It shows the value...
of offensive linemen if anything.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
Ever since that 3rd down drop against the Giants back in '07.....
Crayton was not and is not a big game receiver. Yeah he made plays here and there but he could not be counted on in the clutch. Crayton also had a mouth on him that gave the opposing team too much incentive. Check the 2007 Giants for that.
Sure, he ran back a few punts but in the end, it’s what you do at your position consistently that counts and he wasn’t consistent enough to make the Cowboys think twice about his trade value. The draft picks will do us better in the long run that an inconsistent WR . We already have one in RW.
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
One play to define a career?
Wow.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Yeah that's not right.
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One play can yes sir.
Look at Montana to Dwight Clark in the 82 championship game.
Staubach to Drew in 1975
The immaculate reception by Franco Harris.
When you think of these players, most of the time, you think of these plays.
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
That comparison is pretty weak.
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One Play....Like Jackie Smith
Truly a great career….yet the memory never goes away.
Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.
bit harsh,
hate to be your kid………
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by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
how about the washington game last year?..
that was definitely CLUTCH.
it may have been clutuch,
but why did it take the entire game to beat a lowly Redskin game by a pass to Crayton? Should have finished them off long before.
Plays in championship games define you. Go ask Roger, Drew, Aikman, Irvin and especially Emmitt.
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
Schefter is reporting
T.J. Houshmandzadeh to be cut. Wouldn’t SD be better off with T.J.? They would of had to of had an idea that he was getting cut so I guess the trade worked because we would have cut him anyway.
Miles Austin: Covered
Jason Witten: Covered
Roy Williams: Wide Open
Trusting Your Wide Receiver To Make The Catch: Priceless
Why would the Chargers trade for someone that has that big of a contract?
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He's overrated.
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Agreed
He’s an excellent #2 WR. He needs an outstanding receiver across from him.
Rabid and luvin' it
I don't know if he'll even be an excellent #2
now that he’s been injured off and on lately.
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uhoh
hes on my fantasy team, and i thought he would have a solid year
Time to go to plan B
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
Fine w Crayton trade
It’s called something for nothing, he would have been gone in 24 hours. Good result for PC as well – keeps his contract, plays on a legit SB contender. Ironic if he gets to play in the SB in DA – as a Bolt. Thanks PC – you were a player who contributed and a multi-tasker. I forgave you for the NYG drop a long time ago. Your body of work as a DC completely outweighs the negatives.
For our roster – keeps Hurd in the fold, solidifies Tree’s position. And in effect, we got J Brent for free. ST unit stays stable. These are all good things, people
McQ for a 6? Now that’s money for nothing
Character is easier kept than recovered
not exactly.
we trade 6th rounders, if theirs is a higher pick. If their pick is lower, we just gave them McQ for nothing, literally.
Not saying I mourn the loss. I'm just thinking its a weird deal. Can a team GIVE a player to another team?
because that is basically what can happen in this trade.
BTB is getting kinda silly.
I guess I got a warning for saying not worth a sh#t. That’s the only thing close to a cuss word I used. Whatever it’s your gig, but i see a lot worse on here than that.
Lock n Load
sad to hear that dire,
merde…….
Davie Wilson
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by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
they altered my message ….
Davie Wilson
how bout them cowboys!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
if you see a lot worse here
it’s because it’s slipped thru the cracks and no one noticed it.
From the very start of this blog there’s been clear community guidelines that prohibit hard profanity, basically anything that would get beeped on TV we don’t want to see here. Have to draw the line or it can easily get out of hand (like some sister SB Nation site that don’t have the same policy) and become very family-unfriendly. It’s one of the things that’s helped keep this a great blog over the years, so everyone’s respect for that is much appreciated.
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Does that mean my pet cat McCann...
… has a better chance of making the team as a return guy?
: )
Is playing smart too much to ask?
I cannot believe no one's mentioned Punt Returner
I don’t care about Crayton as a WR, but he was a solid, dependable PR.
Now we have….?
Dez Bryant? Untested, hasn’t even played football in a year.
Newman? Too risky at his age now.
Some rookie?
I’m a lot more worried about a couple of fumbled punts than Crayton’s receiving.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
Dez will do fine.
Besides when’s the last time a muffed punt lost the game? Well that flukey thing in Pittsburgh sucked but that was just a funny bounce that hit one of the guys downfield in the backside and not an actual muffed punt.
He'll do fine?
Maybe. Maybe not.
He hasn’t even played in preseason!
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by Realist Larry on Sep 3, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Both Dez and AoA could do that job
by nicholas.rodriguez on Sep 3, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't count out McCann either
I’m really hoping to see him with a star on his helmet this season.
Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable. --
Tom Landry
Maybe.
But that’s my point, it’s a complete unknown.
I hope “AOA” is up to it.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Sep 3, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
When you see Dez return one for a TD, you'll laugh at yourself for this comment
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
I'm always amazed at blind optimism.
But I didn’t say he’d be bad, just that we don’t know. WhenI see one, and consistent work for weeks, I’ll know it’ll be OK.
I’ve heard for years of these guys who were ‘great returners’ in college, but it doesn’t always transfer to the NFL.
There’s nothing proven at PR except Newman.
Also, if Bryant is so talented, do you want him returning kicks?
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by Realist Larry on Sep 3, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I hardly ever reply to your post but I'm about a case of beer down and just find it necessary.
You aren’t realistic by nature, you are pessimistic.
Your tag is a quote… that notes that you are quoting yourself. Which is another thing that is totally unnecessary, that isn’t such a good line that you have to let people know that you wrote it.
I’m a Pat liker, so I can say this easily… his value is being overstated in the PR game. For the punt retrurns he had this year he also has muffed them before. He’s a mediocre WR who works his ass off and I respect that, but that is what he is. He wasn’t a great returner, he wasn’t even a good returner, he was just a reliable returner.
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Yes, to the kick question, too much talent not to use
It’s not blind optimism when its based on watching him at OSU and seeing with my own eyes the talent he’s got for finding a way to the end zone. Vison, football speed, a feel, whatever it is, he has it.
Not saying he won’t ever fumble or have less than average returns, but I would be shocked, SHOCKED, if he doesn’t become a threat that teams will need to adjust for during his rookie season.
Just saying, don’t worry.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
Played Mafia 2 for a couple of hours
and I get online to see the Cowboys traded Crayton and McQuistan. At least we’ll still have Sam Hurd and Kevin O for depth at WR.
Greg Ellisitis
This is my first post ever so be easy on me. But is seems like Crayton had the whole Greg Ellis syndrome with a younger guy going after his position (Anthony Spencer). Now it took Spencer a little while to come around but look at him now. I think if we just take what Dez has to offer and not expect some monster season we will be just fine.
I'd agree with that
Cowboys got rid of Ellis and it worked out for the best. Hope it does the same thing here.
I was sorta thinking...
the same thing.
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Welcome, James.
What a nice day to join the fray.
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 3, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Is Barber next?
NFL Network had Canfora on saying something about Barber being on the block, didn’t catch the whole thing but he said someone might be willing to step up with a 2nd rounder.
"I just wrote the check, it's up to you guys to cash it!" - Jimmy Johnson to defense after failed attempt on 4th down deep inside Cowboy territory. AND THEY DID!!!!
I just saw that too....that would be disgusting.
Can you imagine Baber ina Denver’s uniform???/ ugghhhhh
I do care.....that guy has killed himself for the cowboys over the past 5 years.
he’s the fire in that offense.
barbers not the same player..
too many hard hits…
would let us draft o-line help next year…….
Davie Wilson
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by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Denver loves to give away stuff too.
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it would be a freakin steal
And give us the ammo we need to reload along the OL
wow,
thats big news…
if true……..
Davie Wilson
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by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd do it in a heartbeat.
More Felix and TC. Plus, Miller looks as good as Barber (2008-2010 Barber). Get rid of MB’s inflated contract, PLUS a 2nd? No hesitation.
Barber for Vincent Jackson!!!
I kid I kid, i’d take a good O lineman probably, or a second rounder.
I will always love the Barbarian, but I have faith in choice and jones
You aint been around in awhile, maybe you haven't heard........I don't shine shoes no more
i want choice to start,
been saying for a while..
hope it happens……
Davie Wilson
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by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't want Choice to start
but I do like the guy. I’m not fully convinced Felix is injury prone, I don’t remember him missing any games at Arkansas. He’s our home run hitter, he should get as many touches as possible
You aint been around in awhile, maybe you haven't heard........I don't shine shoes no more
disagree,
let tc start,then use felix as change of speed back..
plus keep him fresher and healthier hopefully..
Davie Wilson
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by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd love to get a 2nd rounder for Barber
Choice would finally get his chance
Oh, I hope!
I really hope Barber for a 2nd.
I truely believe Choice is the better running back in 2010.
A 2nd or 3rd round pick for Barber would be amazing.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 3, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
This is all speculation.
I agree that would be amazing, and if its too good to be true it probably isn’t.
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If that is remotely true you have to do it immediately.
Barber’s contract and his declining play mixed with Choice’s potential and the fact that I think Lonyae Miller would be a decent #3 definitely would have to make that trade happen.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
Hmm
I think that dropping Barber may actually help our team in the long run, TC has been the best RB in the preseason, doesn’t fumble and finds the hole really well
by nicholas.rodriguez on Sep 3, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
And struggles...
picking up blitzes.
I will agree TC will be better overall in the long run.
Rabid and luvin' it
I don't think some of you get it
If the premise is, “we were going to cut him anyway”, then, sure, a 7th rounder is better than a poke in the eye. But, that is question-begging.
The real question is, “why are we going to cut a productive player”? The answer is, of course, because he is paid too much. BUT, RW makes more! Could we not trade him? Maybe even for a 3rd or 4th? Answer: No, because he makes even more, and is less productive than PC. No one would give you a paper clip for RW, because they would have to assume his ridiculous contract.
So, we elect to keep the higher priced, less productive player because WE CAN’T TRADE HIM? What sense does that make? We have a player that we can move because his contract is somewhat in line with his production- let’s get rid of him. That player that no team would ever take at the price we are paying? KEEP HIM.
stoopid
Jerry ain't cutting bait on his little Roy gamble after only a season and a half.
He still got screwed in the deal and Roy will never live up to it but Jerry isn’t giving up on it just yet.
Let's not
Overreact, it’s not like PC’s production was that much better than RW. Plus to get 7th rounder for someone who wanted out of Dallas since before training is fine with me.
by Texcal1997 on Sep 3, 2010 6:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Don't try logic.
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sorry
it was my first post on here, please forgive me. haha
I thinkhe's pulling you're leg
in that, logic won’t always work
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by Realist Larry on Sep 3, 2010 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually Crowboy makes perfect sense to me
What he said is 100% true. It sucks. I would have kept PC and gotten rid of Roy in a perfect world, but we can blame Roy’s outrageous contract for having to get rid of Crayton. That’s a fact.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
I thought it was strangely true too
But I found out this morning, it’s not a perfect world!
Who knew?
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Sep 3, 2010 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Must have been a rough day for you
First McQ is traded, then the realization of a non perfect world.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
Yeah. And some genius in a wheelchair saying he knows how the entire universe was created
and he’s decided it’s all just accidental anyways!
All this yardwork for nothing.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Sep 4, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Trade RW and $5m
That way he only costs his new team $2m this year. That would have been ok with me. Of course that new team would be stuck with his contract in the future… but that’s another story.
The real question is, "why are we going to cut a productive player"?
Difference is Crayton has requested a trade twice this year …. Roy hasn’t. Crayon didn’t wanna be here because of Dez, Roy does.
So, we elect to keep the higher priced, less productive player because WE CAN’T TRADE HIM? What sense does that make?
what would you feel better about? Them trading Crayton for a 7th, or releasing RW and eating the $11 million? I’d much rather have Roy and his 7 touchdowns.
Sure,
cut scrappy overachievers who give their all. Keep the underachievers because JJ thought it was a good idea to give them big contract. Sends the right message to the team.
cut scrappy overachievers who give their all
and don’t wanna be here. He sure gave it his all complaining about his role, didn’t he? Hate Roy and his trade/contract all you want … I’d much rather have the guy who WANTS TO BE HERE.
Who wouldn't
want to be somewhere where they are outrageously overpaid? “Don’t cut me, Mr. Jerry!” I’ll do anything you say!"
I could care less why they wanna be here, as long as they wanna be a Cowboy.
as long as they’re not complaining about being here and wants to be traded, just because they drafted a younger, bigger, and faster WR.
At the end of the day potential is worth more than a label of underachiever/overachiever.
Plus the fact that one is called an underachiever and one is called an overachiever despite the fact they produced comparably just goes to show that Roy’s talent is definitely valued higher than Crayton’s (and rightly so in my opinion).
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
The Cowboys have no real choice about RW this year.
Jerry got RW and his contract stuffed up his bobo.
Lock n Load
by DIRE WOLF on Sep 3, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
great points..
got something for a 4th wr …..
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by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Cowboys get comp for McQuistan???
I’m putting my pet rock on ebay tonight, 500k starting bid!
Certainly something for nothing. More trades like these.
Crayton didn't play special teams.
And you can’t keep a number 4 option if he isn’t going to at least field punts for you. If Barber leaves I’m not unhappy. Choice is the better back right now and I can still pick him up off the wire.
by Jaymanburlington on Sep 3, 2010 5:58 PM CDT reply actions
I like TC and Felix but I dont want to get rid of Barber
The guy is healthy this year and he’s a stud RB who always falls forward…..
Why cant we get rid of Roy stupid Williams……to hell with his contract…if I get a 6th for him, at least that’ll guarantee that Miles, Bryant, Ogletree and Hurd will get more playing time…….talk about a great young receiving corps.
nobody will take that contract..
jerry made his bed..
he would have to eat it……
Davie Wilson
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by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Barber is not a stud RB, at least not anymore
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I don't understand.
Where is this rumor coming from?
LaConfora?
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
ihave four words to all those people who think that trading PC was bad
Anthony Spencer, Doug Free
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by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Sep 3, 2010 6:00 PM CDT reply actions
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?
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Gotcha.
That is a good point..ala Ken Hamlin/Flozell.
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Salary cap concerns (when it returns)
Those are the next big ticket items on Jerry’s list, plus he still needs to get Miles new deal done.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
That's not cap related though
That real money he’s already paid. I think he won’t give up on Roy until he feels that he has no other choice. Hopefully that becomes apparent after this season.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
Decent vets are cheap as borscht
Any chance we can get the Patrick Crayton of guards?
voodoo
and nude pics ; )
Davie Wilson
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by scotscowboyfan on Sep 3, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
if they were of McQ
we would’ve had to give up our 6th rounder……
by nicholas.rodriguez on Sep 3, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
How is Ogletree better than Crayton??
This is a Dumb move by the cowboys…hope we don’t regret this
He is faster
has way more potential, is about 7 years younger, and it doesn’t matter because Dez is the one taking Crayton’s spot, not KO….
by nicholas.rodriguez on Sep 3, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I somehow can't picture our season hinging on our 4th WR.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
Sarcasm aside
I think RW can definitely be a productive WR for us. He showed flashes of getting on the same page with Romo in the preseason and I think he could be a very effective #2/#3 depending on what Dez does.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
Key words there are "can" and "could"
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
No doubt about that.
Like I have constantly said, I am not predicting an 1000 yard season or anything like that, but I just think the hyperbole surrounding Roy based off his contract and trade value is a little ridiculous when it comes to evaluating his role on this team.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 3, 2010 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm rooting for him to succeed of course, I think he looks better than last year
But I can’t stomach too many more plays like that back shoulder fade pass that Romo placed perfectly while Roy was still running along the sideline clueless as to what was he was supposed to do. So aggravating.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
Interesting answer from some of the faithful...
What’s the value of a receiver like Crayton? What was his position with the team?
Answer? Top 2 passing targets: Austin and Witten. Next 2: Williams and Bryant. Crayton was in a battle for balls with the likes of: Bennett, Barber, Ogletree and Hurd.
The only special team unit in which he could play was Punt returns…
And he’s already 31 years old.
His value is basement low. The Cowboys were lucky to land a conditional 6th or 7th.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
"a battle for balls"
Crayton had a war on his hands.
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Look at it this way guys
We used our 2011 7th to get Brent and just got it back for Crayton(maybe a 6th). To me this trade was like getting Brent for Crayton. I would make that trade in heart beat.
I would have preferred an OL, but a good DL prospect this year when we stand to loose so many DL after this year is a big win in my book.
Woodson is a Hall of Famer!!!
Barber Trade Not Imminent; Just a Possibility
Jason La Canfora’s twitter:
“he asked me for a potential big move to come saturday and I mentioned the possibility that Barber moves. Wouldn’t call it likely but some GMs believe it is possible”
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 3, 2010 6:38 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
So he's basically just saying something that sounds interesting
but has no idea
Yeah, that sounds like a pretty weak to me
I guess we’ll see tomorrow. But I wouldn’t get your hopes up.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 3, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
He must've meant Tiki.
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I really thought this was a possibility after this preseason
I just have not seen anything from Barber in almost a year.
Read the comments posted over at ESPN from Stephen Jones said
"It’s not strictly the money it’s, how do you want your team to progress? If you’re always keeping the veteran guys over the young guys, then you ultimately become and old team, and that bites you at some point."
If this trade happens you know it was Stephen’s doing not J3. He gets to attached to players and only makes a move when he’s pushed enough by Stephen.
Woodson is a Hall of Famer!!!
and only makes a move when he’s pushed enough by Stephen.
And it’s usually the right move. I think Dallas is in good hands for a long time, even after Jerry retires.
Agree
In the long term, that’s the best thing you can say for the Cowboys future, Stephen Jones is next in line.
Thank you #22, for everything you did for the Cowboys. There will never be another one like you.
by APerfectStar on Sep 3, 2010 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
that comment
makes me happy. Sounds like someone has learned from this teams mistakes.
If by mistakes you mean only listening to that little voice in his head then I agree.
Woodson is a Hall of Famer!!!
Stephen says a lot of good things
You can put whatever stock you want to in what guys like Stephen say to the media. But he does say all the things you want to hear out of a GM.
Jerry has a tendency to really fall in love with guys and either
A) Keep them around too long (see Dallas Cowboys from 1997-2000)
or
B) Give them huge contracts for past performance when it’s highly uncertain they can produce in the future (Ken Hamlin, Marion Barber)
or
C) Impulsively give up the farm to get them (Joey Galloway, Quincy Carter, Roy Williams)
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 3, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Crayton for Brent
I like that line of thinking!! By the way, I missed the game and wanted to watch how Brent did. Did he make a positive impression?
Also, I don’t see Rafael Vela’s name as a writer or editor. Did I miss an announcement?
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
Yes. Go back some posts.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
He's running his own show here:
yep...he left us
it is nice to see a site with 5 raf posts a day though.
cowboysnation.com
The forums need a ton of work…SB nation is clearly better.
One question, are the Cowboys a better team without Crayton?
I think not.
Lock n Load
by DIRE WOLF on Sep 3, 2010 6:54 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Crayton can be a better player without the Cowboys.
He didn’t want to be All-State anymore.
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I would rather they have traded Roy Williams.
Patrick Crayton is almost always very reliable.
Is it NFL time yet?
Nobody wants RW.
If RW’s contract was the same as Crayton, I doubt Jerry could get a 7th for his boy.
Lock n Load
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I should copyright that
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A running theme perhaps....
Moving a player a year earlier then most would expect…. Crayton wouldn’t have been here after next year and who here thinks that Barber will still be here after this season? You really think that they will hold Choice down another year? I don’t. He’s cheaper and is a better overall back. JJ and SJ are realizing that we can be a contender and be in a transitional phase at the same time.
Miles Austin: Covered
Jason Witten: Covered
Roy Williams: Wide Open
Trusting Your Wide Receiver To Make The Catch: Priceless
by InkedKing on Sep 3, 2010 7:22 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I like the way you think Mr.
Damn, now you got me thinking about the Barber…thing that makes me go “hmmmm”.
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by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions
This is how Philly and NE stayed ahead of the crowd for years.
And I like it. Painful in the short run, but you find out who the real players are, and develop more in the long run.
Barber???
Wouldn’t miss him at all. I’ve been saying all offseason he’d be sitting behind Felix this year. And Choice is just as good. RB reads and blitz pickup is not rocket science, 2nd year is good enough.
I’d love it if they could get a 3rd or better for MB. He’s just an expensive insurance policy at this point.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Sep 3, 2010 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I think a 3rd for Barber would be a great deal
Looks like Miller could come in as the 3rd RB and serve adequately.
Lord, I am looking forward to seeing the final 53. Maybe the countdown clock should be to that.
If at first you don't succeed - blame someone else.
Hell ya.
Please reset the time on the countdown clock to the 53man roster cutoff.
(Signals to resume the game while blowing the whistle).
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 2:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Some Perspective is in order
I recall the Patriots cutting Free Safety Lawyer Milloy/Malloy before the 2003 opener. He was a key contributor on their defense that won the 2001 Super Bowl against the Rams. Well, as it turned out in 2003, even though the players and fans hated the move, the Patriots ultimately won their 1st of back to back Super Bowls. Meanwhile Lawyer had an ok season for Buffalo but didn’t do much after that. Id rather get rid of someone like Patrick Crayton a year before they have NO trade value than to hold on to him and watch him bitch and moan and being a cancer in the locker room because a Rookie and two guys below him on the depth chart are getting more playing time. To sum this up, I like the fact we got a 7th Rounder for Patrick Crayton, there’s no way you’ll get higher than 6th for him to begin with, especially since SANTIONIO HOLMES WAS TRADED FOR A 5h ROUNDER!
It's only a dream till you write it down, and then it becomes a goal.
-Emmitt Smith
Remember TO?
Weren’t some of us just a year ago arguing that kicking TO to the curb would be a good idea? And TO had been a legitimately great player for us. Letting Crayton go is nothing. We didn’t miss TO; we certainly won’t miss Crayton.
For what it's worth, Josh Ellis said this on twitter
DCStarJEllis: On the Barber stuff, I’m hearing there’s no validity to it. That contract is close to impossible to move and they don’t have an extra RB.
I don't like the trade
Crayton is worth more than a 7th rounder. He is probably the 3rd or 4th best WR on the team. Why ditch him? S.T.U.P.I.D.
Here's why we moved Patrick Crayton
It makes sound business sense to ditch someone a year too soon than a year too late. Also, we only spent a 7th RD draft pick on Patrick Crayton, so after 6 years and declining speed, and exhausting all we can out of him, we got back our initial investment. That my friend is good value for someone who was going to be cut if he wasn’t traded. Also, the trade prevented him from going to Philly, Washington, or Minnesota.
It's only a dream till you write it down, and then it becomes a goal.
-Emmitt Smith
My take...
Crayton’s declining speed isn’t an issue; he knows how to find the open spot in the defense, plus he had some amazing punt returns last year which show some elusiveness is still there.
I don’t think that he had to be cut anyway if he wasn’t traded. I’d rather cut Ogletree or Hurd; neither of which are as good as Crayton.
Keeping him on the Cowboys roster would have easily keep him from going to PHI, WAS, or MIN.
Hurd is making almost as much money as Crayton; so it wasn’t a financial decision.
I can see no GOOD reason for releasing Crayton. The team is worse without him. He had the best chemistry with Romo of all the WRs on the roster.
Against a very good defensive unit, when Romo is running for his life under pressure, I’m sure he is gonna wish Crayton was still in the slot position. Romo trusts Crayton. Ogletree and Hurd still need time, but Dallas is pushing for a Super Bowl this year, which means we should have kept Crayton all the more.
He wanted out.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
If Santonio Holmes can only field a 5th Rd Pick after the Steelers used a 1st RD pick on him
What would you have liked to see the Cowboys get for Patrick Crayton, a 31 year old wide receiver, who was drafted in the 7th RD?
It's only a dream till you write it down, and then it becomes a goal.
-Emmitt Smith
In my opinion,
the round Crayton was drafted in has NOTHING to do with his trade value. Whether he was a 1st round selection or a free agent, so what? His value should be based on his playing ability. And he is worth more to the Cowboys because of his mojo with Romo.
I wonder if Tony had any input on this
It would really be interesting to know if he was asked, and what he said. Maybe Crayton’s constant complaining was interfering with the mojo?
Just speculation, but it does make me wonder.
If at first you don't succeed - blame someone else.
Silly
If Jerry asked Tony for his complete, honest, candid assessment of the receivers… do you think he would tell Jerry to keep making him throw OVER AND OVER again to Roy Williams and cut that pathetic Patrick Crayton?
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 4, 2010 2:17 AM CDT up reply actions
We didn't get Squat for TO.
And he was and still is better than PC. You didn’t see teams stumbling to grab him. He went to the land of broken down, bad attitude ex-Cowboys: The Bungles (TO, Roy Williams, and Adam Jones). That still puts a smiles on my face.
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 2:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Declining players.....
there are always so many but many fans never seem to adjust. He wanted to leave and I’m glad as the spot has been upgraded in potential.
He is a solid but limited player. So some unknown results in the area are expected. That’s how you make progress.
Consider this:
665 often passionate comments prior to this one about a player projected by most to be the NUMBER FOUR wide receiver.
God, I love the BTB commuity.
If at first you don't succeed - blame someone else.
Oh, and one more so there are now 667.
Don’t really go for that stuff, but it would be creepy.
If at first you don't succeed - blame someone else.
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