Cowboys Made Another Trade On Friday Besides Crayton
by Dave Halprin on Sep 4, 2010 8:32 AM CDT
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PrintThe big news yesterday was the trade of Patrick Crayton to the San Diego Chargers for a seventh round pick that could be come a sixth round pick if he catches 40 passes this year. The rumors proved to be true that the Cowboys were actively shopping Crayton, and to dump him for a very low draft pick shows they were anxious to get rid of him. Did they get equal value for him? I don't think so, Crayton is a very good third receiver, his stats over the past years compare very favorably to other third receivers around the league. But, at this time of year, it's very hard for a team to make a trade for equal value since most teams assume you'll eventually cut the player if you're trying that hard to trade him. So it's not an equal value trade, but the Cowboys at least got something for him.
Now, in direct contradiction of the statement above that it's hard to get equal value for a player this time of year, the Cowboys pulled off another trade, one where they got more than equal value. Reserve offensive lineman Pat McQuistan was traded to the Miami Dolphins for an undisclosed draft pick. McQuistan was a guy who wasn't going to survive the cuts today. The fact that the Cowboys got anything for him is a miracle. Since there are only seven rounds in the NFL draft, you can assume that the draft pick they got for him is basically the same value as the one they got for Crayton. Think about that for a moment.
Crayton is a guy who can actually help a team on a regular basis. As mentioned before, he's a very competent third receiver and can also return punts. If you need to press him into starting duty, you can do that, too. On the other hand, if you are going to put Pat McQuistan into regular duty on your offensive line, you better have a ton of health insurance on your quarterback. Yet, in this crazy world of the NFL, they both go for basically the same draft pick value. Insane. Thanks Miami, the Tuna and Sparano's infatuation with McQ has given the Cowboys an extra draft pick they don't deserve.
With Crayton out of the picture, it looks like special-teams ace Sam Hurd moves up to number four in the wide receiver pecking order. I like Hurd but I don't think he was Crayton's equal as a receiver. But, he is his equal and more on special teams. Coach Joe D. has to be very happy with this development. Another guy benefiting from the move - Kevin Ogletree. He has potential to be something in this league, and with the logjam at receiver now opened just a bit, he may get his chance. I can't lie and say I'm a fan of the decision by the Cowboys to move Crayton, he was a great insurance policy against injury to one of the top three receivers. Still, at least they got something out of the deal. It's just painful to know they got as much for Pat McQuistan as they did for Crayton.
In other news, the Cowboys will release defensive lineman Marcus Dixon. In today's world, we get that news via his Twitter account. It's a new age when players announce their own release!
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I guess this means that Hurd’s ST coverage was more important than Crayton’s punt returning. I admire Crayton because he came in as a low pick, but became a solid contributor. At 31 it’s time to move on though.
Anything for McQ is a great deal – but do the ‘Boys definitely get a pick, or it is just if Miami’s 6th is higher?
I liked the signing of Dixon to the PS, but 284 is too small for a 3-4 DE.
Is it possible
that the Cowboys saw evidence of Crayton’s skills declining in this year’s camp?
I am only trying to give them some benefit of the doubt because I don’t like that we got rid of Crayton, especially since it probably had a lot to do with RW who, at this moment, is practicing with Romo to work on their timing.
Best case scenario – Dez plays like he can, Olgetree gets free and RW is shipped off to the eagles in the offseason where he vows revenge against the cowboys only to drop the game winning pass in the playoffs against us.
possible yes, but it seems like the better explanation...
is that it was personal. reports are that crayton had crossed swords with jones and phillips, and unless his last name was romo or ware, that’s a recipe for a one-way ticket out of dallas. sorry to see him go, but glad they got something for him. i agree it wasn’t equal value, but you get what you can.
as for mcq, i heard that all we got back was a swap of 6th round picks (IOW, less than what we got for crayton). has anything been confirmed, or is the compensation still ‘undisclosed?’
I don't think so
The only way it was “personal” is if Jerry didn’t trust PC every since the playoff drop.
I doubt it was that or he woulda been gone sooner. PC is NOT as good as some of you would make him out to be. Plus everyone forgets that FA is WR happy this year.
As has been pointed out:
Boldin traded for surprising value.
TO went almost all offseason before getting picked up.
No bite on TJ Housh (10x better than Crayton and could be had on the cheap right now).
This is a buyers market for Crayton, and his trade was based on: a 53 man roster.
The only way we kept him on the roster at 31yrs old, 2 million, 4th reciever when they have other receivers they want to develop (Hurd and Ogletree and possibly Holley). It comes down to if you would rather keep an almost finished, met his plateau WR, or a young very skilled WR that has MUCH more to learn (Holley). Yes the insurance woulda been nice, but ultimately its a smarter decision to keep a talented younger guy on the roster than someone we can easily replace.
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
TJ is owed 7M this year, guaranteed.
Seattle is in the same boat with TJ that Dallas is in with RW. The big difference is TJ can play.
Lock n Load
Eh, Not in the #1 WR spot which is why his production dramatically dropped.
People forget about the position that made them good. Crayton was good: as a slot receiver (aka not being covered by Elite CBs) and therefore able to make himself look better. It’s easier to torch Bobby Carpenter than Revis.
TJ was great as a #2/3 guy but can’t handle the double coverage #1.
I agree with you about the TJ / RW comparison, but this is a PC / TJ comparison. We’re much more pot-committed on RW unfortunately :( You don’t throw good money after bad though.. come on Jerry… last year for RW to earn his check.
Also, it’s been noted that Seattle doesn’t care and has already written off the $7 million, so I don’t think the money is the issue… only thing I see stopping it is if the new team has to pick up the check for him… but I would think TJ wouldn’t sign for anything less than that even if he was cut and had to renegotiate as a FA.
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you for some sanity.
They were lucky to get anything for him.
Crayton to me was an OK WR. He talked a better game than he had.
I love a trash talker but I hate the one’s that can’t back it up.
I guess we would hear the same cries if Kitna was cut.
Keeping Kitna cost us Matt Moore. Matt Moore may be the next Ktina.
But he isn’t 37.
I’ll go with the young kids. When Crayton had his chance he came up short. Big time.
by Sharksbreath on Sep 4, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point....
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Quoting yourself doesn't require your own name attached to it. I'm going to assume if there isn't anyone else's name attached it's yours.
Exactly
Everyone has that game / play that you think of to define them:
Roy Williams (S) – The Horsecollar tackle(s) on Donavan and TO.
Miles Austin – The Chiefs Game
Marion Barber – The longest 2 yard run.
WR from Giants SB team (blanking and being lazy) with the shoulder catch.
Patrick Crayton – Dropped wide open pass that would have given the Cowboys the lead.
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't forget the muffed punts
Crayton was on drugs that day . . . he was in a negative zone
This is true
But I just cannot forgive a WR who drops a perfect pass to you when you are WIDE open with plenty of room, in such an important game.
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
Is that how you think of Patrick Crayton? I remember very few muffs.
The guy was solid while he was in Dallas, I don’t understand going negative about him just because he wants to go play. The team would have no qualms about cutting him if it was in their best interest.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 4, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't agree on Crayton
how about the countless times hes come up big in key red zone situations…
And I would pick the Santana Moss game as RW’s defining moment.
Kitna Was After Moore, no?
you are thinking of that other blockhead whose name I have banished
Holley is a PS player again...5 on the active roster
Active WRs.
Austin
RW
Dez
Ogletree
Hurd
Everyone has a project player like Holley on their PS. I don’t see anyone scooping up Holley to add him to their 53 man roster…
Calvin Watkins saying we are still trying to trade Hurd. Holley may still make it. Trading Hurd would be a mistake.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
I hope they trade Hurd and get a 5th or a 6th
He doesn’t need to be here. Austin/Williams/Bryant are going to be the #1-3 for a few years at the very least.
Hurd needs to be here: For Special Teams
He is a ST monster. That is the primary reason for keeping him, NOT his WR abilities.
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Bill Bates was a ST Monster
Hurd is good, but if can ONLY contribute on ST, he can be replaced. Especially when it costs 1.75 million a year.
Yep
I agree. I voted trade both Crayton and Hurd for the poll. =)
I would rather see more Olgetree than Hurd, and I really wanna see Holley get a REAL chance… I’ve watched him in 4th and Long and throughout his time with Dallas.
The kid is a transformed basketball star, with ridiculous hands, and ability. He just has a LOT to learn since he didn’t play high school / college football.
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Holley is athletic, just REALLY raw
He gives great effort, which I love, but struggles to know his role, at times. I am rooting for him, but another year on the PS and who knows.
I have a reality prediction and a hopeful one
Hopeful that a deal is made that allows us to keep Holley on the 53.
Reality says he goes back to the PS again, with a very good chance of making it next year if things keep going well with him.
My only prob is that there is a LOT of tape on him from the Spike show and all the preseason, and a LOT of it is good stuff. I could see a lesser team without WR depth steal him as a #3/4 developmental player.
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I dont think so...it was either Hurd or Crayton from the start like I pointed out...
Hurd is a good WR and a better special teams guys which is why he is here and Crayton is not…it’s that simple..
when I saw the headline
Cowboys trade MacQuistan, I honestly thought it was a joke…though isn`t we just switching picks in rd 6 with the Dolphins?
that was the discussion in the crayton thread yesterday
not sure where it came from, havent seen anything official yet, but it was said yesterday that if the cowboys finish with a better record than the dolphins we will swap 6th round picks with them
Looks like a conditional sixth
For McQuistan – They will receive Miami’s sixth round pick only if the Dolphins have a worse record than Dallas in 2010 and therefore a higher pick in the round.
Per Todd Archer
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 4, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions
found a swap quote from Gerry Fraley
“If the Dolphins have a worse record than the Cowboys this season, the clubs will swap spots in the sixth round of the draft. "
another strange quote from that article
Phillips said Jason Williams had the highest grade of the linebackers who played against Miami.
I wasn’t really impressed by his play personally
This is a believable price for McQuistan - Free
A swap of 6th round picks is worth just about nothing. Or a McQuistan. .
If some team had said
I’ll give you two 7th round picks for Crayton and McQ, I still would NOT make that trade. Crayton is worth MORE than two 7th round picks by himself and McQ doesn’t even enter the equation.
Crayton had to go
so getting a 7th is better than nothing, Since the TO,Pacman, Greg Ellis, Tank days the team has concentrated on being more team focused as to opposed to as player individual focused…darn what the heck did I say?hmmmm drats! ok try this…there`s no I in team. Crayton wanted out, had he kept his trap shut and focused on helping the team there`s a good chance he would have made the 53 as by all accounts he was having a great camp. But with the targets we have do you really think we `re gonna miss PC.
had he kept his trap shut and focused on helping the team there`s a good chance he would have made the 53
completely agree. The reason why he’s gone now is because of his mouth. If he wasn’t begging for a trade, I probably would be a lot more upset that he’s gone.
I don't think so
You make those BS bravado moves with expendable guys, not your #2 or #3 receiver. If he was traded for wanting to play, shame on Jerry and Bum Jr. The guy was a solid Cowboy for 4-5 yrs, came to camp, and played well. So what if he let them know he prefers to be somewhere he can play.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 4, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I love the
Miami trade! McQ for a 6th round draft pick if we have a better record than that of Miami. If, not we get nothing in return. Knocking on wood, we should have a 6th round pick for a guy who was going to get cut today!
As far as Crayton, I was getting tired of him and his agents constant complaining. A true sportsman, shuts up and drives on! A 6th rounder (if he makes 40 grabs) or a 7th is fine for me!
i'm sure we're swapping 6th rounders
otherwise there would be no need to put in the “if we have a better record than them” bit
Dave's not quite correct
He’s says it’s the same value as Crayton, but at best, we’re trading our 6th and McQuistan for Miami’s 6th. And we get nothing out of it if Miami finishes with a better record. So odds are we’ll just move up a few spots in the 6th. That’s not the same value as a 7th / conditional 6th for Crayton.
Shame about Dixon
Would have liked him to make it.
But he has never really showed anything.
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PFT reports Andrews may be on the trading block
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 4, 2010 9:40 AM CDT reply actions
his contract is pretty insane for a backup
six-year, $38.9M contract
that was pretty much an epic fail for the eagles
the kind that gets GMs fired.
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So I gave you that name to help you through.”
by Travlr on Sep 4, 2010 9:45 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
i think its a little easier
if you’re 6’7, 342lbs
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by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Sep 5, 2010 2:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Got to disagree with the assessment on the trade
Sam Hurd will not be Crayton’s replacement but Kevin Ogeltree and Miles Austin will. Hurds big frame makes him a suitable back up to the wide out positions currently held by Roy and Dez. Austin and Williams played those roles last season.
Heading into 2010, Dallas’ personell dictates that Austin is going to see plenty of looks in the slot. This is where Crayton became that good ole reliable guy. Miles is going to be moved around, but for the most part, you gotta feel that Dez will be wide and Austin will get the middle of the field duties when the Boys go to 3 WR. Ogletree, on the other hand, is replacing the possible looks Crayton would see this year. I am ok with that. While I respect and appreciate what Crayton has been for this team, the parting is best for both parties.
by spadesking131313 on Sep 4, 2010 10:05 AM CDT reply actions
A 7th for Crayton, a conditional 6th for McQ??
We got screwed with the Crayton deal, but what was Miami thinking? They saw how bad he was and they still wanted him?
These two deals net out to a decent set of trades.
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by Lord Humungus on Sep 4, 2010 10:08 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
ogletree "undisputed" 4th receiver now
means hurd is only special teams and pure backup. crayton was a progress stopper for the younger receivers, so his time had come. just like flozell.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7186137.html
Jerry is in love with Ogletree
I hope Ogletree can perform as we all hope.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 4, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
i don't get this
hurd is better than ogletree, however i think is just nominal stuff since our number 1 receiver (austin) will play slot, there will be a lot of funny moves
Hurd is better than Ogletree?
Ogletree has more upside as a WR. The only thing Hurd has an upside on Ogletree is on special teams..
For now
Remember, Olgetree plays ST too.
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
good move
people talked about how much Hurd was making; guess what Crayton makes more. So he was going. I think it was a good bet that we would keep either Hurd or Crayton as depth; since Hurd is now a lot more important on ST then Crayton since we have other guys to catch punts then the choice became easier. And I think that was reasonably apparent around the league. That is why we could only get a 7th for him. Now if we get an improved 6th pick for McQ that is just about robbery.
moving up a few spaces in the 6th is hardly robbery (if it even happens)
but it’s better than nothing, and that’s pretty much what mcq was with the cowboys after some promise early. maybe the change of scenery will do him good.
I've always been a BIG fan of Crayton and I'm sad to see him go
But the move was absolutely the right one to make. I know a 7th seems low, and it is considering his skills, but regardless of the time of year we weren’t going to get anything more than a 6th for him. He’s getting old people. Miles, Roy, Dez, Ogletree, Hurd, Witten, and MartyB? We could do LOT worse. Unless we suffer injury after injury to our WR’s this season I doubt we’ll ever think of it again. The production will most definitely be there.
Um you do know he took two punts to the house last year right?
I’d say thats contributing on ST’s. I’m not a huge Crayton fan myself but theres no denying he helped us out in the punt return area last year.
Please..everyone stop pointing out the PRs my grandmother could've returned..
the holes were the size of canyons. He just ran up the hole nothing more. Were not going to miss this guy one bit..
Do you think your grandmother will make the practice squad?
that would be a hell of a steal AND cheap.
If thats the only thing we can remember Crayton by was a couple of easy PR's then it was time to move on with him..
Like I said he was a good player for a 7th round pick, but it’s time to move on with the young guys.
How about you provide a couple Youtube links?
Then we’ll decide how much to discount the returns.
Give me a break, the guy was apparently the best the team could find to field punts. He didn’t light up returns but he was more than dependable.
I just don’t get people who claim to be Cowboy fans going negative on a guy who made him self good enough to be important for 4-5 years. Are you made because he wants to go play? I wouldn’t want him if he was happy going from a #2-3 to not playing. I wish him luck and hope he has a great year.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 4, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
pittsburgh messed up the WR trades by givin up santonio just for a 5th
if santonio worths a 5th, surely a 7th for crayton is ok
Yep
These guys have been playing too much WoW and EverQuest…. one noob doesn’t have patience and screws the entire market.
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm
That woulda been hard. 3 is kinda pushin it, but a 4 doesn’t seem fair either.
Was Holmes or Boldin the first to be traded???
I know I remember reading about Bolding and being absolutely sick that we didn’t bother to go after him. I would have thought Jerry would be willing to give up MUCH more for Boldin since we tried to go after.
Only thing I can think of: Trading the player to the other conference to ensure you won’t play against them often and taking a hit in trade value is worth more than possibly see’ing multiple revenge games.
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
What was he worth then?
Did they get equal value for him? I don’t think so
I would have to disagree and say yes they did get good value for Crayton. Considering it only took a 5th to get Santonio Holmes and Ted Ginn IMO, they got what they should have expected. If we get a 6th that’s even better.
I think many overvalued Crayton. He was decent when he had TO playing opposite him nearly 3 years ago, but that was then. He was just holding back players like Ogletree and Hurd who are ready to make the next step. We won’t miss Crayton, especially with Dez on the field.
It's very simple to find out what someone is worth
It’s whatever someone else is willing to offer. Period. Patrick Crayton was worth a low 7th round pick.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 4, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
That picture was the best thing McQ ever did as a Cowboy.
It cracks me up every single time.
As far as value, swapping 6th rounders is nothing. Offensive linemen are harder to find than receivers, and the staff in Miami is familiar with him which is an added bonus.
Crayton was more valuable to us than a 7th round pick, but not to anyone else.
Best of luck, PC, you were a good Cowboy.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 4, 2010 11:27 AM CDT reply actions
He was a good player for a 7th round pick, but Im not going to miss his big mouth
He was the last of them…
Off the subject.
NFLN had a show on last night “Top 100 Players”. Larry Allen Was # 95 and Irvin was # 92 in the 100-91. They said six more Cowboys made the list, I think…
Roger
Bob Lilly
Tony D
Randy White
Emmitt
Troy
Lock n Load
Anybody think the Cowboys will pick up an o-line guy
that gets released today? I’m sure there’s gotta be somebody worth a spot
I'm hoping
Somewhere, someone’s gotta be cutting a guy who can be another backup, better than the Bright or Young-or at least with some experience.
Not an old guy, but maybe a few years under his belt.
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by Realist Larry on Sep 4, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Ya we're definately gonna to something I hope
I think we’re just waiting to see who gives us a call today before 53 man is due.
We’ll wait to see who becomes available w/out trading. If we can’t find anyone good, Hoping to see a trade early season
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 12:41 PM CDT reply actions
Sparano and Parcells are smart football guys
What do they see in McQuistan? I don’t get it. I’m just a fan and not an expert, but all I’ve ever seen is the guy getting pushed into the backfield. Is he a good locker room guy or what?
The ego of Parcells
he probably thinks he can turn anyone into a great player
by danielcp0303 on Sep 4, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe sometime early in this decade, the Tuna has gone sour.
I was a huge Parcells fan. Loved what he did in Dallas, and will STILL credit him for turning around Dallas in our time of darkness. He was a genius.
I can’t speak for his ability to select talent any longer though. He had such a hard on for Bobby Carpenter, and he was fail from day one. McQuistan racked up some fail tape this preseason and Tuna still chomping at the bit… and loves to trade Dallas for players we otherwise couldnt care about…thats why I love him still.
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe we could sign Herschel Walker
and trade him to the Dolphins for 5 players and 8 draft picks
by danielcp0303 on Sep 4, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I know he likes "his guys"
I’m thinking he shows loyalty to players if they are good soldiers in the Parcells army, overlooking the fact that they can’t play a lick.
by East Bay Ray on Sep 4, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
And Patrick Turner, their 3rd round pick from last year.
Guess we’re not missing Jeff Ireland so much either.
There is something to be said about unwavering loyalty...
They might night be able to play a lick but they will damn sure run off a cliff if you tell them to.
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 12:54 PM CDT reply actions
Hurd on the Chopping Block?
From Rotoworld
“Sam Hurd has decided not to accept a paycut from the Cowboys.
The paycut would have guaranteed Hurd’s spot on the 53-man roster. As it is now, the Cowboys will have to decide whether to keep Hurd at his full $1.76 million salary or keep Jesse Holley instead. Hurd believes he could see more time at receiver in another locale."
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 4, 2010 12:54 PM CDT reply actions
And the gears start churning.
I could see us getting a 6 for Hurd
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I hope they trade him
instead of dropping him
by danielcp0303 on Sep 4, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think he's traded
I think when you have an overpaid player, the priorities come in this order.
Option 1: Trade
Option 2: Lower Salary
Option 3: Cut
The fact that we’re talking about lowering the salary indicates to me trade talks fell apart.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 4, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point
I think it shows that Hurd saying he wants to be a Cowboy no matter what is just a lie. I mean I wouldn’t take a paycut either, but he shouldn’t have said he hopes to stay if he’s not willing to do whatever it takes
by danielcp0303 on Sep 4, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Ya, I think some of the NFL players have a little bit of an ego
It’s crazy to think players who don’t have starting positions on the offense or defense make demands. If you’re a situational player or certain down player…. guess what… YOU’RE SITUATIONAL and therefore REPLACEABLE.
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Quote from Sam Hurd earlier in the week
“But whatever I have to do to stay here, that’s my goal.”
I guess he left out
“as long as it doesn’t involve reducing my $250,000-per-catch last year salary.”
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 4, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
What the....?
With Crayton gone, we really need to keep Hurd because I don’t think Ogletree is ready, and who do we have behind that?
Stephen Jones says Ogletree is already the #4
At the press conference last night he stated more than once that Ogletree is the 4th receiver on this depth chart, ahead of Hurd.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 4, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Man, that's cutting it awful tight.
2 hours left until the 53 man roster has to be finalized
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 4, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Ya... I'm torn
I want to toss the d-bag title on Hurd for doing the dirty so close to 53 man time. (At least keep your mouth shut to let us fish a trade). But I’m such a Holley fan that this could be my shot to see him make it.
So does this mean Hurd will hold-out and not play even if we keep him on the 53 if we don’t pay him?
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Should Have Take the Pay Cut.
Too bad Hurd didn’t take the cut. It was probablly necessary to complete a trade. That won’t sit well with Stephen. Now if Hurd is cut the cowboys will get nothing.
Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.
And Matt Leinart will be released
looks like we’ll be playing against Derek Anderson on Dec. 25…that’s gonna be fun
What's your take on the Leinart situation?
Did Matt bang Coaches daughter in the hottub? Or does Leinart just fail?
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Leinart just fails
Reports are that his teammates don’t trust him as a leader, and he and Whisenhunt don’t see eye to eye.
HAHAHAHA
That makes the PC deal sound even better.
Should we drop Hurd and go after TJ? =)
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 1:03 PM CDT reply actions
53 Man is due at what time today?
3pm EST or 5pm EST?
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 1:19 PM CDT reply actions
Thought it was 5pmEST
Which gives them only 2h 30m
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 4, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Donte Stallworth tweet
“Worst part of NFL is today, all around league… hate to see guys get cut. But when one door closes another opens… Keep ya head up!!”
Yeah keep ya head up, so that you don’t run someone over
6TH ROUND PICK EXCHANGE FOR MCQUISTIN
I do believe I heard that the Cowboys and Miami will exchange 6th round picks for McQuistin. So the boys achieved only a higher pick(hopefully) in the 6th round.
It's too quiet out of Valley ranch. Something is up.
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 4, 2010 1:43 PM CDT reply actions
Lots of phone calls.
Hmm.. sounds interesting… Can I call you back in 10?
by DaStarShinesBright on Sep 4, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
If the Dolphins have any picks left late in the draft, I’d have to think Sparano would want him
Nah, the Dolphins won't trade for any of our players
We’re out of terrible O-linemen.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 4, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Expect Another Trade
Surprised if they have not had offers for Junior, or a LB. Just made sense to me.
Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.
Just read that McNabb
will start against the Cowboys
McNabb will start, Ware will finish.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 4, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Isnt that how it is supposed to be?
"Of all the things I have lost , I miss my mind the most-Random T-shirt
"There is a fine line between Genius and Insanity"-Unknown Author
by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Sep 5, 2010 2:32 AM CDT up reply actions
I can already see Spencer and Ware
crashing in on McNabb on some 3rd and long play. Poor McNabb may have to give a post game interview with a cast on his leg.
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