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Dallas Cowboys Roster Analysis, Part 1

The Dallas Cowboys have announced their initial 53-man roster heading into the 2010 regular season, and as expected the roster cuts included some surprises. There was just too much potential and talent at the bottom part of the roster for the Cowboys to make any easy decisions and injuries at certain positions created a numbers crunch at others.

I don't believe for a second that this is the final 53-man roster and I know that the Cowboys were heavily interested in the rest of the cuts being announced around the NFL. What's going to be interesting is seeing which players might still be in jeopardy even after "making" the team if the Cowboys do indeed end up bringing in a released player to provide better depth at certain positions. It's also important to note that players that were cut (like Cletis Gordon) might be brought back at some point.

For a team headed into what is supposed to be a contending season, the key for the Cowboys was to put together the best roster they could from top to bottom. This philosophy created an interesting numbers game from position to position and necessitated some of the different decisions that were made yesterday. Across a two-part analysis, I'll do my best to determine just what the thinking was behind each one.

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Three cornerbacks.

I don't think I can ever remember a time when the Cowboys entered the season with just three true cornerbacks on the roster. It's a very dangerous game to play, especially with the Cowboys relying heavily on the nickel package in Wade Phillips' defensive scheme. It seems that many feel the Cowboys will be searching for a cornerback to provide depth at the position, yet I believe it's important to include all of the defensive backs in this discussion.

In the end this decision came down to: are Barry Church and Danny McCray more valuable than Cletis Gordon? With the Cowboys, the answer was certainly a yes. Church, at this point, is a much better safety than McCray but both provide great potential on special teams; this ability far outweighed Gordon's ability to provide depth at the fourth cornerback position.

Gordon played nearly the entire game against Miami and looked, frankly, horrible while doing so. The playmaking corner everyone had raved about during camp disappeared, and was replaced by once that was burned constantly by the Texans and the Dolphins. While I'm sure the Cowboys were already leaning in a certain direction before the final preseason game, it's likely that Gordon lost his job with that poor performance.

The depth at cornerback will almost certainly come from Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, a safety-cornerback hybrid who has received playing time at the slot corner position throughout camp and the preseason. While I'm not a big fan of the Cowboys relying on Alan Ball's cover ability for depth as well, the team seems to be moving forward with the plan of playing multiple safeties each game at multiple positions in each defensive scheme.

I know that after the reports coming from camp about Gordon's playmaking, and his leaping one-handed interception earlier in the preseason, many felt that Gordon was a lock to make the team. After seeing how he performed against actual NFL-level talent in the final two preseason games, I began to wonder if all of the hype was a bit overplayed.

In the end, the ability of Church and McCray to actually contribute on gamedays outweighed Gordon's apparent ability to provide merely mediocre production in a purely depth role.

The defensive line.

I know that Junior Siavii seemingly came alive this preseason when he realized his roster position was in doubt but it was apparent that Josh Brent would make this team nearly three weeks ago. His overall potential far outweighs the ceiling that Siavii has already reached and I highly doubt a nose tackle like Brent would have made it through waivers. You had to be impressed with Brent's combination of speed and power and while he certainly had some issues in college, the Cowboys are raving about how smart a player he's already become.

Brent's ability to provide a pass rush from the inside will also give the Cowboys more versatility along the defensive line in passing situations and could allow them to move Jay Ratliff around a bit. It will be interesting to see how he's used once the season starts.

While some of the BTB faithful might not be surprised that the Cowboys kept Sean Lissemore, you have to wonder if his roster spot might be in trouble if the Cowboys do acquire a player that was cut by another team. Lissemore struggled with an injury during camp and the preseason and was largely unnoticeable; it wasn't until the Dolphins game that he finally started to showcase his abilities.

Lissemore is certainly intriguing and his versatility along the line is valuable. You have to wonder, however, just how much playing time he would get during a game and if he would even be active during games anyway.

Two fullbacks, two tight ends.

There's a fullback on this 53-man roster whose job is still in jeopardy and his name isn't Chris Gronkowski.

I was impressed with Gronkowski's ability to grasp a larger role in the offense after the Cowboys lost John Phillips for the season. Gronkowski showcased an ability to provide the big block up the middle, the speed and power to provide an option in short yardage runs and the hands to be a threat in the passing game. Is he the next Daryl Johnston? Definitely not, but he could provide the versatility from the position that Cowboys would love to use.

With the Cowboys going with just two tight ends initially, the team will be on the lookout for any options that arise after all final roster cuts are announced. If the Cowboys do decide to bring in an extra tight end, then it's Anderson who could be on his way out -- especially when you consider the court date that's just around the corner.

The Cowboys brought in three tight ends after Phillips' injury and none of them provided enough of a good impression to force their way onto the roster. Martin Rucker showed flashes, but he doesn't have the versatility to justify the Cowboys keeping him on the team, even for depth purposes.

In Part 2, we'll look at the more difficult decisions the Cowboys had to make: trading Patrick Crayton and keeping Sam Hurd as well trying to determine what exactly the Cowboys plan to do at nickel linebacker.

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I think you’re spot on with your comments, can’t wait for part 2.

by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 5, 2010 11:03 AM CDT reply actions  

+1

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by Lord Humungus on Sep 5, 2010 11:13 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

So if we bring in a TE, G, and CB...

who do we let go? Anderson, Holland, and Lissemore (to PS)…?

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by MicThaRock on Sep 5, 2010 11:04 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I'm still not convinced the Cowboys bring in a CB

Unless there is one released that just blows them away. Despite his struggles in the final two games, I have to think that Gordon is a better option than the cuts that are being tossed out right now.

It will be interesting to see if the Cowboys play AOA at a more CB-heavy role this season. Supposedly he’s been able to pick up the defensive schemes a lot faster than expected.

If a TE is brought in, Anderson is likely gone. If a guard is found, I’m still not convinced that Holland would he leaving. At least not immediately. Remember, Holland is going to start against Washington; how likely is it that a brand new guard can come in and learn the offense in just a week and well enough to start? Not very likely at all.

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by Brandon Worley on Sep 5, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I AGREE THERE.....

 somthing tells me that we wont pick up a guard if at all untill after the wash game, plus ill bet there wanting to look at aoa at corner in thisgiving us that 4th corner, might be the reason they went heavy at safety.

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by demonbane on Sep 5, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

That sounds highly likely to me.

But if they wait until after the Redskins game, will there even be an OG available who’s worth bringing in?

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by 24Hz on Sep 5, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

If they do bring in a OG

Then Holland won’t be the one that’s cut. That’s my point.

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by Brandon Worley on Sep 5, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

They Like Holland

The Cowboys like Holland. They signed him to a 2-year $3.7 million contract this offseason just to be on the team, plus up to $2.5 million more in incentives based on playing time.

This while the team is cutting Patrick Crayton’s $2 millon salary SUPPOSEDLY for money reasons.

They wouldn’t have given him that money in the off-season if they wanted to cut him.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

True

It wasn’t like other teams were beating a path to his door either.

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by lonewolfz28 on Sep 5, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see us bring a OG

Tupou from Philly would be my preference. I’d cut Leon Williams and plan on this year being a developmental year for Tupou.

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by cowboysuberfan on Sep 5, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

they give TO a raise then cut him

Holland has been a huge disapointment filling in for Kosier & they might’ve liked him before the season but i can;t see him on their list now.
 we thought Barron was a steal for Carpenter but has he really? i didn’t see much of a difference between Brewster then Barron, both will need help & we can forget about running to the right side w/ Barron in the game.

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by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Sep 5, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

You guys are acting like Holland and Barron are the long-term plans on the OL.

Heck, they might not even play against Washington. Both Kosier and Colombo are on track to possibly be able to return for week 1.

It’s just one game. And I don’t see one team in the league that can lose TWO starting offensive linemen and expect to maintain the same level of play from the backups.

They key here is to hopefully groom future starters while also maintaining some level of decency for the backups. Brewster, Young and Costa show promise for the future. I understand the concern for the drop off in play if a starter is out for more than 1-2 games, or even for one game, but you can’t go around swapping around backup offensive linemen like it’s nothing.

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by Brandon Worley on Sep 5, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Colombo might be kinda done.

Broaddus said on Ben and Skin that there are big concerns about him. Barron can’t play RT so Free back to RT and Barron to LT might be the only thing they can do. Colombo needs to be able to play at his old level.

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by DIRE WOLF on Sep 5, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Borrowed Time

I think these two injuries back-to-back remind us that we’ve been playing with Colombo on borrowed time. You can only surgically repair knees so many times.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

House of Cards

This O-Line feels like a house of cards. 1 injury and the integrity of the entire offense is in real jeopardy because of a severe lack of quality back ups at any position. However, I would say that Colombo is supposed to be back to top health as his last procedure was only a scope for removal of spurs that were bothering him. Nothing too intrusive.

by Jaymanburlington on Sep 5, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

IMO Brewster did a good job at RT in the SD game.

How many teams could lose two starters and not have a significant drop off in play.

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by NVCowboy4Life on Sep 5, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've been reading a theme in your posts VA

It seems that you keep harping on the fact that Holland is terrible. Well, to be honest, he hasn’t had much playing time in awhile. He will come around.

The last time he played significant minutes, he did real well. Do you remember the Pittsburgh game at the end of the season the year before last? That was the last time Holland had significant minutes I believe. He did pretty good in that game. He was opening holes for the run game against the No.1 run defense then (not bad). He just may need a little playing time.

Don’t get me wrong VA, I’m not saying he’s perfect. And at least Barron has made a team- would you rather have Carpenter right now? (Ughhh)

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by DallasPalace on Sep 5, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree... I think Holland deserves a little more credit than he has been getting.

He played pretty well in 2008. In fact, it was his injury that really sunk the Cowboys as it led to the human turnstile seeing the field.

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by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 6, 2010 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder how they cannot

Kolb, McNabb and Eli will air it out.

The 4th CB on this team gets more reps if Dallas can be stout against the run and force opponents into 3rd and long more often.

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by 5Blings on Sep 5, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not McNabb

They have no WR corps. 2 TEs is going to be their base offense.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meet the new coach of the Washington Redskins

His name is Mike Shanahan and he likes to pass the football. His son, the Offensive Coordinator, just brought his offensive prowess over from Houston.

You remember Houston, right? They of the league leading passing attack last year?

Don’t kid yourself, BED, the Skins are going to toss the ball around.

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by 5Blings on Sep 6, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

They don't have the players to throw the ball around

I have no doubt we’ll see quite a bit, but they can’t run a base offense of shotgun 3-wides.

I think we’re going to see a lot of 2TE looks using the running game to set up pases to Cooley and Moss

by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 6, 2010 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very nice, Brandon

When you think about who could still be on the bubble, there aren’t that many possibilities.

Anderson for a TE as you mentioned is possible, though I think we collectively undervalue the Cricket’s blocking skills, but who knows.

Leon Williams at LB has to be a candidate – the Cowboys had just four ILB’s last year, and that included the formidable Bobby Carpenter – this year they’re five deep.

O-line: Costa and Young could both potentially move to the PS if suitable backup depth is secured for the O-line.

by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 5, 2010 11:19 AM CDT reply actions  

It's his off-the-field issue

That has Cricket on the bubble, I think.

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by Brandon Worley on Sep 5, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Phillips had not been lost in the HOF game

if both Anderson and Gronkowski would have been cut?

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by 082288 on Sep 5, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Doubtful.

Not both.

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by Brandon Worley on Sep 5, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I feel like that's only part of it

I think the team thinks of Gronk as a more complete/versatile fullback with the ability to catch, run, block, and play that third TE spot if needed.

He did look good getting some of the short yardage first downs in preseason, not sure if it was him or the other team expecting the RB to get it instead (like Barber)

by - Adrian - on Sep 5, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Surprise

is one of the reasons you call a fullback dive. It’s supposed to surprise the defense.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same with the pass

but it only works if the guy can run and catch.

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by dunkman on Sep 5, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

All three brothers made a team,

wonder which parent had the extra football chromosome.lol

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by NVCowboy4Life on Sep 5, 2010 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love Gronkowski's Versatility

He’s shown he can run. He’s shown he can catch. And he’s shown he can block out of multiple positions on the line.

The one doubt I have about him is that I haven’t seen that one signature block yet. When I look at a fullback, I want to see lead blocks that absolutely destroy a guy.

We’ve seen devestating lead blocks from Cricket. I’m watching for those from Gonkowski. If he can light guys up from the lead blocking role, I say it’s time to pull the trigger and declare him the starter.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

i agree on Ski

i think Deon would be the one gone if they added a 3rd TE

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by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Sep 5, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I saw two big lead blocks from Gronkowski on the goal line.

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by Brandon Worley on Sep 5, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, good pushing the pile blocks

What I’m talking about is that situation that happens all the time. Play starts, O-line opens a hole and a linebacker swoops in to fill it.

One of 3 things can happen

1) The lead blocker can hit him and push him back, away from the RB
2) The lead blocker can wiff or get stood up and shed, allowing the linebacker to get to the RB
3) The lead blocker can explode on the linebacker, sending him crashing to the ground.

I want to see some #3. A fullback is at least as important for “setting the tone” and making linebackers a little hesitant to react to running plays as he is for the Xs and Os of his assignment.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe that would come in his 2nd year

after he’s had a year to be in the weight lifting system. I’d imagine that his talent at picking up the man he’s supposed to can be greatly improved by time in the weight room and it’s going to be worth the roster spot. With all things considered, age, salary, off-field… I’m comfortable with that risk assessment.

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by KD Drummond on Sep 5, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Leons experience helped that decision

plus w/ JWill developing slower then expected didn’t help, i also think this is bad news for JWill more then Leon. also Lee’s injury set him back from learning the nickel & then Brookings injury moved into the base defense so they needed the experience (Leon). theirs no doubt Lee is a 3 down ILB but to aska rookie to learn all 3 downs is a lot his first camp.
 they could use Brooking in the nickel/dime & use Lee in the base to give Brooking a breather but this is bad news for JWill bc what good is he other then a special teams player at an overloaded position.
 also i think Young would be the 1st to move to the PS bc Costa has more value atm

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by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Sep 5, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

What is comes down to...

I think, is that the Cowboys thought Ball is a better cornerback than Gordan and that they are more confident in one of the many safeties’ ability to play at safety than Gordan’s at DB. Can’t say I necessarily disagree either with the way Gordan played the last two games.

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by demBoyz on Sep 5, 2010 11:21 AM CDT reply actions  

I was REALLY hoping Gordon would stick

but he really seemed to go downhill the longer preseason lasted. Still am a bit nervous about CB depth… Going to have to trust management (tastes bed just writing those words about any management…) on this one.

Sad really. wanted to have a Cletis on the team…

by Chris in Va on Sep 5, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate the idea of Ball being starting safety and 4th CB

and I’m also very wary of AOA being on the field as a corner. He was in division 2 football, missed all the OTA, and most of training camp. Are we really supposed to believe that a division 2 player can get up-to-speed at the NFL level in 3 weeks?

by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I Guess Based on What the Coaching

Staff saw during training camp and preseason, the answer is ‘yes’. AOA made up a lot of ground during the preseason, since he missed the offseason program and a big chunk of training camp. That he was able to man the slot during preseason and play so well probably meant he had already passed Gordon as a backup, and with his athleticism and intelligence, will only get better. He might make some rookie mistakes along the way, but the long-term future is pretty bright from what I saw.

by kindablue on Sep 5, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

not trying to play Devil`s advocate here but...

what are the chances we bring back Bobby Carpenter for our coverage LB and Tony Curtis as our 3rd TE?

by ziggy19 on Sep 5, 2010 11:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Doubtful on Barbie.

I just don’t see that happening.

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by Brandon Worley on Sep 5, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

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zero point zero…

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by HudBaby on Sep 5, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fat,drunk ,and stupid is no way to get on an NFL team

especially if you are a LB that won’t hit!!! So long Barbie.lol

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by NVCowboy4Life on Sep 5, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe he can get more gigs in music videos as a backup dancer

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by Realist Larry on Sep 5, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I certainly hope not.

Although the comments here would be very intersting to see.

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by Tom Ryle on Sep 5, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

wonder what barbies dad thinks of his failures heh

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by demonbane on Sep 5, 2010 12:01 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm not a fan of only 3 CBs

1. Newman played 16 games once the last 3 years and played with a sore knee last year to make it in all 16.

2. Teams have 4 WR packages as part of their regular offense. So what happens if there’s one injury? For 3 WR sets, you play AOA. But what do you do in 4 WR sets? If I was the opposition, and Dallas had a CB injury, I’d go 4WR all game and force Dallas to use AOA & Ball as corners and put Hamlin in at FS.

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Sep 5, 2010 12:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Not a fan either, but I understand what they're doing if they stick with three

only because it seems like they have confidence in the safeties (AOA and Ball) to play corner, and also, like you said, the other safeties to come in and play safety if needed. I think Hamlin and Sensabaugh wouldn’t be too bad.

I am worried about Newman’s injury history though

by - Adrian - on Sep 5, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ball wasn't all that at CB

which is why they moved him to FS. if you remember from the time he was drafted Ball has been torched as a CB to many times. i think if Ball is going to succeed then it’ll be at FS & hopefully he turns out to be a solid player but to count on him as a CB again is a stretch

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by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Sep 5, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

But he is a fourth

corner. He is not HOF material but he was obviously thought to be better than Gordon and McCann.

by jevans1729 on Sep 5, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ball Getting Torched?

When? He only came in as a corner a few times, the most notable was against Tampa Bay in 2008, and he played fine.

by kindablue on Sep 5, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it is

easier to think of it as keeping 5CBs and 5 safetys. If a team goes to 4WR, you already have Ball on the field. Ball was already the 4th corner so there is really no loss there. If there is an injury, it depends on who is injured as to who would come in. If it is Scandrick, you get AOA. If Newman or Jenkins, you get Ball. If Gordon or McCann weren’t better than Ball, than you can’t keep either one of them.

by jevans1729 on Sep 5, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with you on 3 CBs.

Dallas may have shot their self in the foot not keeping a 4th CB. If they get a couple CBs hurt after the trading deadline they’re looking to sign CBs on the street. It doesn’t seem like a good decision to me, CB is a position that’s too important.

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by DIRE WOLF on Sep 5, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok

1. Out of everything that you saw, was Gordon a better CB than what Ball was last year? My answer is no.

2. AOA is playing nickel and dime CB in practices, he played the Safety position for the most part in the 2 games that he played, but the staff has seen him at CB and they like what they’ve seen.

3. RB and CB are the easiest positions to play if you have the skills and learn fast, Ball knows the schemes and has the skills, he can make an inmedate move. One of AOA’s strengths are his smarts, he played CB and S in College because he knew both roles, he’s also fast and quick.

4. If a 5th or 6th Safety can play better STs than a 5th or 6th CB, he’s going to make the team over him (Safeties: Sensabaugh, Ball, Hamlin, AOA, Church and McCray; CBs: Newman, Jenkins, Scandrick, AOA and Ball).

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by Chandus on Sep 5, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Zackly

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by dunkman on Sep 5, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes Chandus

But I wanted us to keep McCann, because he is a PR/KR. Multi talented players don’t grow on trees.

Sure, he got torched for the TD against Miami. But he is not a big DB, and they put him up against a big WR. He would have been a great 4th CB. I admit I also liked Cletis, but McCann was the man

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by DallasPalace on Sep 5, 2010 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

The problem with a talent loaded team is...

… That you can’t develop as much talented young guys as you would like, you have to carry your talent base and good Special Teamers.

It’s a shame that McCann had to go.

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by Chandus on Sep 5, 2010 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Strongly Disagree

If a team is highly talented that means there’s somewhere around 20 backup spots for developmental players for the next generation.

Oh, but wait, we need all those spots for special teams players. That’s why we needed McCray over a better developmental pick.

Hrm, do you think Aikman and Smith were sweating the 5 yard difference in field position a gunner would net the team on a few punt returns?

Emmitt: “Oh, wait, we can’t win this game against the Giants with my shoulder destroyed. We don’t have a Keith Davis type gunner to keep the opponent from netting 5 yards on punt coverage”
Troy: "You’re right. Damn, if only we had a Pat Watkins type playing on this team we could win. Surely my accuracy and your toughness aren’t enough to win 3 superbowls. I’ll tell Deion that his play-making “primetime” namesake won’t be called on today because we’re toast without a McCray-esque punt gunner."

And that’s how the Giants won the 1993 superbowl.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 6, 2010 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

To that, I'll respond with one name:

Bill Bates.

He wasn’t a starting Safety, he was actually a Keith Davis kind of safety, and he made the team over several younger players during the course of quite a few years.

Why? The importance of Special Teams.

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by Chandus on Sep 6, 2010 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I went a little overboard there

I don’t dislike McCray at all, I want to root for him.

I just think sometimes little things like Pat Watkins’ special teams play or Ken Hamlin’s “lineing guys up” get a little overblown by fans in terms of the actual value those things bring to a team.

But, hey, I like Bill Bates as much as anyone here and I want to root for McCray.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 6, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was just too funny...

to not be rec’d, so I rec’d you. Great imagination! :)

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by MudMarine on Sep 6, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think if

they went 4 WR all game …. Ware/Ratliff/Spencer would make them pay big time for that.

by Dub_TC on Sep 5, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

And...

Bowen and Hatcher since we’d be in our nickle most of the time.

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by lonewolfz28 on Sep 5, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't see keeping 10 OL on the roster.

And 3 CBs, AOA’s versatility notwithstanding, I’d like to see another CB brought in for development.

by mdlusk on Sep 5, 2010 12:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Once the season starts...

and rosters are stabilized, I could see any combination of Lissemore, Young or Brewster going to the PS if we need to shore up CB or G.

I think they were too afraid of Lissemore getting snapped up before he made it to the PS. There were several teams that were hoping to have him fall to them at the end of the 7th or in FA. Once their rosters are stable, they’ll be less likely to cut someone from their 53 just to pick him up since he’s still raw and unproven.

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by lonewolfz28 on Sep 5, 2010 12:30 PM CDT reply actions  

after seeing Holland again

we need to find a replacement asap, theirs no way RoMo will have much of chance to do anything. also having Barron at RT won’t help matters much either, were going to need a RB, FB for protection every play. teams are going to blow right by Barron & attack Holland in the middle. i thought Barron just played on a bad team & wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt but he sucks, i thought Brewster did just as good at RT.
 they could also bring Gordon back after week 1 or another vet CB when the contract isn’t guarenteed so theirs a lot of options left & a little time to see how things work before knee jerking. i know 1 thing i hate to see Gordon replacing Newman or Jenkins if an injury occurs bc Gordon can’t play the slot.
 i found it wierd they kept Leon & Jason Williams bc thats not a good sign for the project JWill. also heard Lee could play in the base defense some to rest Brooking/James so they can be fresh for the nickel/dime. i also heard McCray & Hamlin could play those roles bc of their ability to cover & speed.
 another thing is they could have a player on the roster that they want to slip to the PS but their waiting for the rush to be over & let teams fill the holes then sneak them over after they sign another player to the 53 man roster. every blog, website, etc has a wierd feeling about this Hurd thing & maybe their going to force a team to trade for him instead of just cutting him bc i know Dallas thinks a lot of Holley & McCann.
 i agree this roster isn’t set & its exciting guessing whats going to happen next but we can all agree the 3 CB system is wierd & the Lissemore roster spot, Hurd staying after being asked for a paycut, theirs more to this then we know & hopefully its something positive on the OL. i really think we won’t last long w/ Holland or Barron playing more then a few snaps…
 i heard 3 teams are interested in McCann but i hope he clears waivers along w/ Holley Holley
 its still a great day to be a Dallas Cowboy Fan, Americas Team > the other 31

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by Va_Cowboy_Fan on Sep 5, 2010 12:31 PM CDT reply actions  

McCann to Baltimore

Siavii to Seattle

(ESPNDallas Cowboys blog)

by WareWolf on Sep 5, 2010 12:35 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Damn, I knew McCann would get snaped up,

and no way a NT/ DE stays around long.

Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Sep 5, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

NTs always get snatched up

No surprise McCann gets picked up, I really hope that doesn’t come back to bite us in the ass.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Baltimore hadn't done it...

the Vikings probably would’ve.

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by lonewolfz28 on Sep 5, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just believe that good corners are hard to come by in this league

Maybe McCann can’t take it to the next level.

But I think corners are so valuable. Even if McCann’s ceiling is being a solid 3rd CB, that’s fantastic. It’s hard to find those guys.

I would just hate to have seen us give up a starting corner in McCann for a “Keith-Davis-type” special teams player who will never start in this league in McCray.

Time will tell.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

How do you

justify keeping McCann if he doesn’t grade out higher than Ball at corner?

by jevans1729 on Sep 5, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying they're right or wrong

I’m just saying I HOPE they’re right. Because any time you give up a seemingly good prospect for a special teams player, I get nervous.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's your problem

Apparently Special Teams aren’t important to you.

But in reality, Special Teams is the difference that can make a receiver like Crayton expendable over a player like Hurd. A player like McCray over McCann. And a player like Ball over Oglesby.

Where you also on Oglesby’s boat? As far as I know, that guy is out of the League and the other is slated to start this year…

You should have more confidence on the staff, my friend.

Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
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by Chandus on Sep 5, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

What?

You don’t think McCann can become a 3rd corner in this league at some point? What’s so crazy about that idea?

by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

but that would take 2 more years at least, we can find another another before that

by ratware on Sep 5, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Trust me Blue Eyed Devil

It’s not an idea, it’s a fact. McCann shouldn’t have been cut. Wade is regretting that one I bet more than Cletis.

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by DallasPalace on Sep 5, 2010 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm glad Dixon gets to move on....

it seemed he put effort into it. Bad breaks with injuries held him back.

by Cwon1 on Sep 5, 2010 1:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, good for him

I like to see guys find work that come from our practice squad, work real hard in the offseason, and just can’t make it on the team due to a numbers issue.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just based on the name alone I hope Gronkowski sticks

Is there a better name for a FB?

Instead of “Moooose”, will we hear,
“COOOOOW” ??

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by Realist Larry on Sep 5, 2010 1:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Now that I've cleaned off my monitor ...

I like it, but let’s use the ‘K’ …. Kooooow

by GalTex on Sep 5, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

First, great write up Brandon

I think a lot of fans underestimate how much stock Phillis puts into this hybrid DB concept. He’s a believer. I am intrigued with Brent and Lissemore. They both seem to fit the Ratliff mold, and what a difference if the coaches are able to spell the starters and keep them fresher for fourth quarters and late into the season.

FREE THE OGLETREE!!!

by dunkman on Sep 5, 2010 1:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Lissemore had like 3 tackles against San Diego

He has been show up, but you guys haven’t been noticing him

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by quincyyyyy on Sep 5, 2010 2:00 PM CDT reply actions  

wall heading to houston lol

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Sep 5, 2010 2:06 PM CDT reply actions  

At least we have Keith Davis!

er I mean McCray

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by quincyyyyy on Sep 5, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll take McCray over Wall any day

Wall can’t play. I really think they drafted Wall as a Keith Davis type. Wall was known for his killer hits in college. But those turned into killer wiffs against Jordan Shipley.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ravens signed CB Bryan McCann

Formerly on your team. You guys got anything on him? We are replacing another rookie who we were somewhat high on with McCann.

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 5, 2010 2:21 PM CDT reply actions  

I hate you

Dumb GM decision by us to cut him.

He has 4.35 speed and is a good returner.

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by quincyyyyy on Sep 5, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea, was just watching this highlight tape and was rather impressed. Any reason you guys cut him and kept so few CB’s?

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 5, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably has to do with are Special teams coverage units

and we already have Dez and Akwazi Owusu Ansah as our returners.

McCann probably wouldn’t be active on game day. So we kept people like McCray, who may not be as talented on the defensive side of the ball, but provide much more on Special Teams coverage.

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by quincyyyyy on Sep 5, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, alright. Ansah is a good player for sure. Well this means that McCann is on our 45 man squad now, which is pretty interesting to me. Glad you guys are pissed he got cut : )

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 5, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

No reason at all.

That’s why so many of us are upset.

Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Sep 5, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

He stunk.

Your fans need to convince your front office to cut him and go in another direction.

J/K

He was pretty good for a rookie UDFA. We were hoping to sneak him onto the Practice Squad to develop.

Rabid and luvin' it

by lonewolfz28 on Sep 5, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Considering how fast Ozzie went out and got McCann after letting an undrafted rookie CB from our team make it who we really liked, he must have some sort of talent.

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 5, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hence the J/K...

and the second half of my comment. It was a joke.

Rabid and luvin' it

by lonewolfz28 on Sep 5, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

was a weee weak in tackling and still had a bit to learn as far as a 3rd corner..

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Sep 5, 2010 2:35 PM CDT reply actions  

4th corner i mean lol

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Sep 5, 2010 2:36 PM CDT reply actions  

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