The Mock Draft Challenge
Time for some mock draft fun. Mocking The Draft, our sister site here on SB Nation, just put out a mint-fresh list of the Top 200 College Players. The challenge, you create a mock draft based on the MTD Top 200 list. Here are the rules:
Leaderboard Update, 18:00 PM, 1/22:
12 Rec's: Creasy729 (but he traded down)
11 Rec's: Kegbearer
10 Rec's: Hank Hill
9 Rec's: Jordan Sams
8 Rec's: TCBinNYC, BigDinLA
7 Rec's: Chandus, Spaceball
6 Rec's: JimmyK, Ziggy19
5 Rec's: Rat-Pack, topgrosscloser
4 Rec's: BishopWest, Creasy729, ScotswoboyfanPlease don't be stingy with your rec's for the mocks below. If you like it, rec' it. Please also consider some of the newer mocks towards the end of the thread.
- We will assume that all draft-eligible players will be available at exactly the spot the Top 200 list puts them at.
- Dallas owns the no. 9, 40, 71, 109, 140, 171 and 210 picks
- You pick at your exact spot or anywhere below that (e.g. 9th or anywhere from 10 to 20 or so)
- You cannot trade down, because it would be too easy to trade to the exact spot your prospect is sitting at.
- You may however trade up using this draft value chart. The value you give up in the trade up must be equal to or greater than the value you receive, e.g. your 9th (1,350 pts) and your 40th (500 pts) could get you the 4th pick (1,800 pts).
Write up your mock picks in the comments section. Look for other mocks in the comments section that you like and rec' them (Press the action link at the bottom of the comment box, then press the Rec button next to the star). The mock with the most rec's gets featured on the front page in the next Mock Draft Roundup, so put some thought into your mock.
I'll start it off with the following mock draft:
1st round: 8. Robert Quinn | 6'5, 265 pounds | DE | North Carolina. Traded 9th (1,350 pts) and 4th rounder (84 pts) for the Titans 8th pick (1,400 pts)
2nd round: 48. Tyron Smith | 6'6, 285 pounds | OT | Southern California:
3rd round: 65. DeAndre McDaniel | 6'0, 212 pounds | SS | Clemson: Traded 71st (235 pts), 6th rounder (23 pts) and 7th rounder (7.4 pts) for the 65th pick (265 pts)
4th round: - -
5th round: 142. John Moffitt | 6'5, 320 pounds | G | Wisconsin
6th & 7th round: - -
Too much trading up for your taste? Go ahead and show us your mock.
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9 Cameron Heyward DE OSU
40 Rahim Moore S UCLA
71 Danny Watkins T Baylor
109 Marcus Cannon T TCU
140 John Moffit G Wisconsin
171 Jemali Hines S OSU
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 17, 2011 2:26 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Your first four were mine exactly
I would then go 140 Austin Pettis WR and 174 Doug Hogue OLB
If I was to trade down
I would select Mike Pouncey…if he’s anything like his brother, we’ll be a perenial pro bowler for years to come
In Romo we Trust
The problem is that Mike is not his brother.
Just like Casey Matthews is not Clay Matthews.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
by Creasy729 on Jan 18, 2011 1:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
True. Still doesn't change the fact that Maurkice is more talented.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
by Creasy729 on Jan 18, 2011 1:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I never proclaimed he was
I just said IF he is anything like his brother, he’ll be a great player, and that could very well be the case, neither you nor I definitely know that.
Aren’t we all hoping that Rob turns out to be just as good of a defensive genius as Rex??
In Romo we Trust
Sure.
And all I was doing was saying that I don’t think that Mike is as good as Maurkice in the same way that I don’t think Casey is anywhere near as good as his brother Clay. I wasn’t really taking an aim too much at you since I do realize that you were speaking in conditionals.
As for Rob, yes we are hoping that. However, my conclusion on that hiring is in no way based on his brother and instead on his aggressive brand of football and his impressive list of mentors (Bill Belicheck, Buddy Ryan, etc.).
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
They're not that far apart though.
Mike is still considered very good.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I agree they aren't worlds apart
but I think Maurkice is going to be a multi-Pro Bowler while Mike’s ceiling is not as high in my opinion. And even though this is just a challenge, I don’t get the reaching for Pouncey some people are opting for. If anything you should reach for the tackle, the harder position to get elite talent at.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
1st (9) – Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State
2nd (36th overall worth 540) – trading the 40 (worth 500), 140 (worth 36), and the 210 (worth 7.4) – Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin
3rd (67th overall worth 255) – trading the 71st (worth 235) and 171 (worth 23) – Ras-I Dowling, CB, Virginia
4th (109) – Marcus Cannon, OT, TCU
…and then I cut out early for a little botox touch-up.
by JimmyK on Jan 17, 2011 2:34 PM CST reply actions 6 recs
Then 'rec it
I will hold back until I’m a little less miffed at the botox joke :-)
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 17, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
Haha, if I’m pondering ideas on improving the Cowboys (clearly a punishable offense in the court room in the basement of the Linc), then throwing in a little barb at the end is the only way to convince the judge I’m not some sort of traitor.
That's right, it's our job to tell the owner and coaches what to do!
If at first you don't succeed - blame someone else.
See... Jimmy is stealthily trying to undo us by giving us Heyward.
If we draft him I am not sure I will be able to watch the rest of the first round without going into a rage.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
The rest is really solid though.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
Yeah, I am not a Heyward fan
You aint been around in awhile, maybe you haven't heard........I don't shine shoes no more
Why all the hate for Heyward?
I hear he has a motivation problem, but the one game in which I watched him on every play was the bowl game and he tore it up.
I was a big fan of his fathers
so obvious I have a soft spot for his son since they share the same DNA
In Romo we Trust
Loved Ironhead Heyward...
but I don’t see half the tenacity and brute force of will that his father had in Cameron.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Because that is the only game Heyward played hard in all season.
I am not drafting a “pass rusher” with 15.5 sacks over 4 years. Especially when mos to f those sacks came against Toledo, Youngstown state and the other Ohio schools.
LMAO
at this…
and then I cut out early for a little botox touch-up.
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
Know thine enemy
Nice JimmyK. While I don’t like Heyward at #9 and would like some more players from the draft than just 4, you certainly seem to be aware of the Cowboys franchise and our current needs. Sorry, no rec’d from me, but you do get some props.
However, I take offense at your jab at Jerry Jones and botox. We all know vampires and/or men who strike deals with the devil have no need for such plastic surgery.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Yeah, I’m not huge on Heyward either, but I thought he was the best fit based on the MTD Top 200 and who I was allowed to draft at 9. If I had broken the rules and traded back like some of these other cheaters (haha), then my draft would be WAAAAY better than the one I devised above. I considered Dareus momentarily, but the cost to trade up 2 stinking spots was too high.
As for the Jones comment, I was going to write something like “And then I go to the media with my fingers crossed behind my back and tell them that Garrett was in charge, before heading out for a botox touch-up,” but I figured that would get me immediately disqualified so I chopped off the first part.
- Derek Sherrod | 6’6, 300 pounds | OT | Mississippi State – Maybe a little early, but it is the best combo of need + BPA and I think 20 was way to low for him.
- Rahim Moore | 6’1, 195 pounds | FS | UCLA – was hard to pass up Wisniewski, but S is a bigger need.
- Phil Taylor | 6’4, 355 pounds | DT | Baylor – a true plugger that will help keep JRat fresh and allow him to play some DE.
- Ben Ijalana | 6’4, 320 pounds | OT/G | Villanova – this gives us 2 young athletic OL and should solidify the position for a few years.
- Trade 140 and 210 – Curtis Marsh | 6’0, 192 pounds | CB | Utah State – Good size and speed adds depth.
- Tori Gurley | 6’5, 230 pounds | WR | South Carolina ** – replaces Hurd with a player with much more upside.
by BigDinLA on Jan 17, 2011 2:50 PM CST reply actions 8 recs
ha - with all the #1's you've got listed, I wonder how we ended up 6 first-round picks ;)
"....the Cowboy way...." (Head Coach, Jason Garrett)
Pretty good draft, not sure about 1st pick though...
As you say, probably too early for Sherrod. The more I read the more I’m convinced that the 9th pick is a luxury pick. Our primary needs (OT, G, NT, S) aren’t a good value at that spot. The 9th pick is like a extra pitch and you’re swinging for the fences…
So from here on out… I’m just going to substitute “I wanted to trade down” for “Maybe a little early” in each of these mocks. :)
9 – Cameron Jordan | 6’4, 285 pounds | DE | California
40 – Rahim Moore | 6’1, 195 pounds | FS | UCLA
71 – Danny Watkins | 6’4, 310 pounds | OT | Baylor
109 – Marcus Cannon | 6’5, 350 pounds | OT | TCU
140 – Austin Pettis | 6’3, 202 pounds | WR | Boise State
171 – Joseph Barksdale | 6’6, 318 pounds | OT | LSU
210 – Anthony Sherman | 5’11, 240 pounds | FB | Connecticut
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
by Chandus on Jan 17, 2011 3:00 PM CST reply actions 7 recs
Chandus....
Your pick of 3 OT is a little strange. Are you thinking one of them goes to OG or maybe you’re thinking Sam Young from last year is getting cut? What’s up?
I want to find at least one starter
And in this situation, I believe that the team needs to carpet bomb the position with guys that can eitherplay RT or G. Watkins, Cannon and Barksdale are prospect that look like they can play both.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
FS with pick #2?
But he needs to drop that WR, huh?
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Jan 18, 2011 5:41 PM CST up reply actions
here is mine
Round #1… trade up to pick #6 for Prince Amukamara using 3rd and 6th
Round #2… Nate Soldier
Round #3…N/A
Round #4…Mike Mohamed
Round#5… Justin Boren
Round #6…N/A
Round #7(from Chargers)…?
formerly I draft the Cowboys!!!
Yes...I am Ironman....seriously my last name is ironman in German
Knowledge and Skill overcome superstition and Luck-Dawn Patrol
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 17, 2011 4:39 PM CST reply actions
what wrong with Nate?
formerly I draft the Cowboys!!!
Yes...I am Ironman....seriously my last name is ironman in German
Knowledge and Skill overcome superstition and Luck-Dawn Patrol
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 17, 2011 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
add in our 7th to the trade up
just to keep within the rules…..
formerly I draft the Cowboys!!!
Yes...I am Ironman....seriously my last name is ironman in German
Knowledge and Skill overcome superstition and Luck-Dawn Patrol
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 17, 2011 4:41 PM CST reply actions
New Mock....
Start with #9th, 41st, 73rd, 105th,137th, 169th, 210th
Round 1- Prince Amukamara | 6’1, 200 pounds | CB | Nebraska(Trade #9, 73rd, and 137th{1612.8 points total} for #6 and #198[1612.2points])
Left with 41st,105th,169th,198th,210th
Round 2- Gabe Carimi | 6’7, 315 pounds | OT | Wisconsin (Trade 41st, 105th and 210th{581.4 points} for 36th and 132nd{580 points})
Left with 132nd, 169th,198th
Round 3- N/A
Round 4- Marcus Cannon | 6’5, 350 pounds | OT | TCU (trade #132nd, 169th, and 198th(76 points) for #113 and 209th (75.8 points)
Round 5- N/A
Round 6*- Doug Hogue | 6’2, 228 pounds | OLB | Syracuse( trade Roy E.Williams to Carolina for the 193rd. That plus the 209th(22 points) for the 174th pick(21.8)
This will be if the CBA gets done before the draft….unless we can still trade players….
formerly I draft the Cowboys!!!
Yes...I am Ironman....seriously my last name is ironman in German
Knowledge and Skill overcome superstition and Luck-Dawn Patrol
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 18, 2011 2:29 PM CST up reply actions
just noticed some thing OCC
your Values are off…9th pick is worth 1350; 8th is worth 1400 our 3rd rounder is worth 225 points….just thought you would like to know…..
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Knowledge and Skill overcome superstition and Luck-Dawn Patrol
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 17, 2011 5:03 PM CST reply actions
correct on the 9th & 8th pick and corrected above, the 71st in the 3rd round is worth 235.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 17, 2011 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
but we have the 73rd pick OCC
unless there was a trade or something that gives us the 71st…..
formerly I draft the Cowboys!!!
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Knowledge and Skill overcome superstition and Luck-Dawn Patrol
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 17, 2011 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
71 or 73? I’m not sure. In principle, it should be 73, but most mocks (example: Walter Football) have us at 71. I admit I am baffled.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 18, 2011 4:01 AM CST up reply actions
these rankings are shitty
lol look at where they got people ranked
by Archie Barberio on Jan 17, 2011 5:11 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, alot of players are way undervalued
CBS sports is the same way, but they have everyone ranked at least. Haven’t seen any other good big boards aside from some on the draftcountdown forums
Here We Go
My Trades:
Dallas trades #9 and #71 for St. Louis’s #14, #47, #142, and #175 (1585 pts. for 1586.4)
Dallas trades #47, #109, and #142 to Denver for #36 (541 pts for 540 pts)
Dallas trades #175 and #210 to Green Bay for #157 (28.8 pts for 28.6 pts)
- - Cameron Jordan DE
- - Gabe Carimi OT
- - Rahim Moore FS
- - John Moffit G
- - Brandon Hogan CB
- - Aldrick Robinson WR
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
by Creasy729 on Jan 17, 2011 5:20 PM CST reply actions 12 recs
Stupid formatting
Those picks in order are at 14, 36, 40, 140, 157, 171
And as a post-breakdown, I was pleased that I was able to hit every big need. I didn’t like any of the #3 RBs, but I don’t know if that matters since Lonyae Miller can be that guy. Regardless, I really love all these picks. The only questionable one here is Brandon Hogan. He is risky because he is coming off a torn ACL and a suspension from the team at the beginning of the year. And as bad as that sounds, I will still take him at #157 because when healthy he was the best cover corner in the Big East.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
na I feel ya
for me the are a bunch of nice RB’s late but a corner makes more sense
if my mock was anything close to true it would be amazing
the ranks are a little out of wack
by Archie Barberio on Jan 17, 2011 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
If we manage to get Jordan, Carimi, and Moore I would dance a jig.
I also love Moffit. Team him and Carimi up on the right side for the next 5-10 years. Would prefer Gurley over Robinson at WR though. That 6’5 would be another red zone threat and he has very deceptive speed.
Trading like a Jones
This is probably what Jerruh thinks will happen when he starts trading repeatedly. Nice draft…
Not bad at all
You did trade down, but I won’t be more pious than the pope on that.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 17, 2011 6:13 PM CST up reply actions
Ahhhh...
Gotcha. My bad. And here I thought I was being all tricky since I traded down and then back up for Gabe Carimi. I can redo one here in a little while. Regardless, that was a fun exercise in trying to get the trade values to match.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
Nice Haul...
but doesn’t follow OCC’s rule for this contest
by doomsdayreturns on Jan 17, 2011 6:32 PM CST up reply actions
no way Moore lasts till the 3rd, best S in the draft
by somebodyquiet on Jan 17, 2011 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
Not round three. Pick three.
With my trades he would be taken at #40.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
im going off the wall here bare with me
1.-Mark Ingram RB Alabama
2.-Rahim Moore FS UCLA
3.-Ahmad Black SS Florida
4.-Marcus Cannon T/G TCU
5.-John Moffitt G Wisconsin
6.-Orlando Franklin T/G Miami
7.-IDK because the list only goes up to 200, the draft pick is 210!
by Archie Barberio on Jan 17, 2011 5:27 PM CST reply actions
Eeeewww, Ingram!
no ’rec from me for that one :-)
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 17, 2011 6:11 PM CST up reply actions 10 recs
TOP TEN RUNNING BACK
RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!
Tell EVERYONE you can about www.NFLLockout.com and how they can sign the Petition to Block the Lockout.
Would rather see a cb in there than 2 S's but I like it.
Ingram would give us a true feature back. Still hating on Bigg Jr, but Moffit and Franklin are solid.
Pick 9 is a pure LUXURY pick
And I don’t think you’re on crack to swing for the fences…
trade back would be better...Sherrod at 16 and another 2nd rd pick
9Derek Sherrod | 6’6, 300 pounds | OT | Mississippi State
40 Rahim Moore | 6’1, 195 pounds | FS | UCLA *
71 Phil Taylor | 6’4, 355 pounds | DT | Baylor
109 Casey Matthews | 6’1, 245 pounds | MLB | Oregon
140John Moffitt | 6’5, 320 pounds | G | Wisconsin
171Steven Ridley | 6’0, 223 pounds | RB | LSU *
210Jeff Maehl WR Oregon
by ziggy19 on Jan 17, 2011 6:14 PM CST reply actions 6 recs
How about these
I am picking on the basis that the CBA is signed on time and the Free Agency takes place before the draft. In the Free Agency, the cowboys pickup two offensive linesmen.
Round 1 – Pick 009 – Mark Ingram | 5’10, 215 pounds | RB | Alabama
Trade Pick 40 (500) and 109 (76) for Pick 35 (550)
Round 2 – Pick 035 – Von Miller | 6’3, 240 pounds | OLB | Texas A&M
Round 3 – Pick 071 – Ahmad Black | 5’9, 185 pounds | SS | Florida
Trade Pick 140 (36) and 201 (7.4) for Pick 129 (43)
Round 5 – Pick 129 – Casey Matthews | 6’1, 245 pounds | MLB | Oregon
Round 6 – Pick 171 – Aldrick Robinson | 5’10, 178 pounds | WR | SMU
by cwbys on Jan 17, 2011 6:34 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Won't happen, but:
1. (9) Cameron Jordan – I like him almost as much as Fairly
2. (40) Ryan Mallett – I don’t think I’ve seen a mock where he is picked later than 16. Too much value to pass up.
3. (71) Danny Watkins – He’s older than I would like, and he will have to move inside, but he can probably provide 6 very productive years
4. (109) Marcus Cannon – Right Tackle prospect, or shift to guard
5. Trade (140) and (210) for (129): Casey Matthews – maybe I’m overvaluing him because of his brother, but I could see Lee and Matthews as our interior LB’s for years to come
6. (171) Chimidi Chekwa – best CB left; a good athlete, but a project
by doomsdayreturns on Jan 17, 2011 6:56 PM CST reply actions
I get why you see value for Mallett at 40, but no thanks.
However, I love the name Chimidi Chekwa.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Agreed, but QB is the one position this team won’t touch… We’d never play Mallet so it stands that there would be better value for Von Miller or Gabe Carimi (with small trade up).
Aikman and Walsh
In 1989, Dallas drafted Aikman 1st in the regular draft and then Steve Walsh 1st the supplemental draft just a few months later. Later that year, Dallas traded Walsh for picks that turned out to be Russell Maryland and Erik Williams.
I don’t think the Cowboys want or need Mallett, but if they can pick him at number 40 and turn him into draft choices that produce the equivalent ofMaryland and Williams, it would be silly not to take this path. Maybe Mallett is an idiot, but every mock I see has him being picked in the top 15 – not at 40 where Mocking the Draft has him ranked.
by doomsdayreturns on Jan 18, 2011 6:33 PM CST up reply actions
Wow! That is going out on a limb, big fella.
Never’s a helluva loooong time. Consider yourself quoted.
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
Redo without trading down. This one will be considerably tougher.
Trade:
Dallas trades #140 and #210 to Cleveland for #134 (43.4 points vs. 39 points)
Round 1 – Derek Sherrod OT
Round 2 – Rahim Moore FS
Round 3 – Pernell McPhee DE
Round 4 – Benjamin Ijalana OT/G
Round 5 – Alex Henery K
Round 6 – Aldrick Robinson WR
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
by Creasy729 on Jan 17, 2011 7:17 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Also, personally I think Carimi is just as good as Sherrod so I wouldn't mind taking him at #9
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
Our favorite closet cowboy was asking MTD about why he has Carimi ranked low on his board.
“He’s a lumbering player.
His blocking motions are slow, in my opinion. He’s great if he’s facing a defensive tackle, but he executes his pass blocking slowly. He’s a great run blocker, but he might struggle against the shiftier/quicker/more talented rushers in the league.”
idk
I like Carimi alot, for us he is a RT so I dont see any problem there
by Archie Barberio on Jan 17, 2011 7:47 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah but I think he would be a very good RT
and plus, even Mocking Dan, the guy who did the rankings, said that the reason he didn’t have him that high was due to the fact that he probably doesn’t have as much upside as a guy like Sherrod. And ultimately I agree, but the thing that Carimi has that I think Sherrod might not is the ability to come in an be a starter from day one. Sherrod comes from a spread offense and ran-block so often that I think he will have a bigger developmental curve.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
Sherrod is a multi year starter. MSU switch to the spread in 2009. He has experience in multiple systems.
Valid Point.
And certainly one to take into consideration.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
Alternate Draft with New Names!!
Just for fun, here is an alternate mock.
Dallas trades #9, #140 and #210 for #8 from Tennessee (1393.3 points vs. 1400 points)
Picks: #8, #40, #71, #109, and #171
Pick 8 – Robert Quinn OLB, North Carolina – The best OLB prospect in this draft can give Dallas a guy to backup and possibly replace Anthony Spencer. And, if Spencer somehow turns it back on next year, it gives Dallas another pass rusher to have fun with and perhaps a killer four man line in pass rush situations (Ware, Ratliff, Quinn, Spencer).
Pick 40 – Stefen Wisniewski G/C, Penn State – According to Wes Bunting this is the most technically sound interior lineman in this year’s draft. He is only a little smaller than Kyle Kosier and is supposed to be one of the most NFL ready interior lineman. He could play either C or G and give Dallas some true line flexibility.
Pick 71 – Tejay Johnson S, TCU – Time to reach. I included this guy because he seems like a little bit of an under the radar and yet when reading about him he seems like everything you want. He was a 1st team All-American. He runs around a 4.5 40 and is 212 lbs. He was the leader of the best defense in the country. To me, he might be our TJ Ward in the third round.
Pick 109 – Jason Pinkston T, Pittsburgh – Maybe another reach, but definitely the guy left that can best play RT. Ijalana and Cannon are both attractive picks but more likely going to be guards. Already having picked Wisniewski, Pinkston and his athleticism as a T make the most sense here.
Pick 171 – Chimdi Chekwa CB, Ohio State – Here is another quick CB to compete with McCann for that #4 spot in the secondary. Chekwa was an All-Big Ten player (and 2nd team All-American) and led Ohio State to having the best pass defense in the Big Ten. He is a guy who will drop some due to a wrist injury, but his upside is higher than most corners taken this low.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
by Creasy729 on Jan 18, 2011 7:46 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
I give you credit for changing it up
You brought up a lot of names I haven’t seen mentioned else where, so I give you credit for being creative. I honestly don’t know much about your last three picks. Your draft will give me a few more names to look in to.
I'm With Doomsday
if this guy is avaiable we should take him 40. Ryan Mallett | 6’7, 238 pounds | QB | Arkansas *
MacGee is not an answer for the long term but his guy will be a franchise QB for years to come.
There are too many variables to predict the draft now but I enjoyed all the work put in on the predicitions in this post.
by TCB Orange Dino on Jan 17, 2011 7:22 PM CST reply actions
Let's take the QB with questionable intelligence...
To learn Garrett’s super simple and predictable offense. The perfect plan.
Funny...
Mallett slacks off in the classroom, which gives us a reason to automatically ignore how much time he spent in the film room at Arkansas, or the fact that Bobby Petrino doesn’t exactly run a simple high-school offense of his own.
Here I’d like to adhere to my mantra; don’t speak unless you know.
by Admiral Dallas on Jan 17, 2011 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
If the reference
to Garrett’s offense as simple and predictable wasn’t enough of a hint, I was being sarcastic. That said, I don’t want Mallet. Or Gabbert. Or Newton. The only QB I would’ve considered this year is Andrew Luck, and that was when we were still picking around third.
I was criticizing your assessment of Ryan Mallett.
I definitely picked up on the sarcasm.
by Admiral Dallas on Jan 17, 2011 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
That's fair.
But it’s entirely possible that the entire thing was me using the commonly thrown around stereotypes of both. :P
Haha
I mean, yeah, Mallett is a bit of a dunce when it comes to classroom academics. I just don’t think that always translates directly to football smarts, however.
by Admiral Dallas on Jan 17, 2011 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
Trade Bait
I wasn’t suggesting taking Mallett because he represents a need for this team, and there is no way he will be on the board at 40 – I would only take him because it would be a value pick – someone to trade to other teams.
by doomsdayreturns on Jan 17, 2011 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
YOu obviously don't pay much attention to all of the off the field crap with Mallet.
He is Ryan Leaf Part Deux.
Agreed.
The parallels are there for sure except I think Mallett may be even more handicapped on the field. The dude just doesn’t (or can’t) move his feet very much and throws with inconsistent accuracy because he tries to get away with throws and arm angles that are extremely difficult because of his arm strength. In short, I am not a fan whatsoever.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
SB Bound
1st round- RB Mark Ingram— Alabama
2nd round- S Ahmad Black— Florida
3rd round- OG/T Marcus Cannon— TCU
4th round- MLB Casey Matthews Oregon or MLB Kelvin Sheppard LSU
5th round- DT Lawrence Guy ASU
6th round- Best OT left
7th round- CB or Speedy WR
Sign Michael Huff.
by howboutdemcowboyz on Jan 17, 2011 7:36 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
see
ive started the Mark Ingram train
ALL ABOARD!!!!!!!
INGRAM TO DALLAS INGRAM TO DALLAS INGRAM TO DALLAS
dust off the #22 jersey fellas
its 88 Dez “Spiderman” Bryant 22 Mark “Catch 22” Ingram
whaaaaaaaat
by Archie Barberio on Jan 17, 2011 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
This looks like fun! :)
Here’s mine:
Cut Barber, Colombo, Bigg, & Igor
Resign Free, Spears, Bowen
FAs: Tyson Clabo (OT – Atlanta), Davin Joseph (OG – Tampa Bay) Eric Weddle (S – San Diego)
1 (9) . Cameron Jordan – Provides a true pass rushing threat at the DE position
2 (40). Rahim Moore – The best Safety in this years draft. If he last this long, you have to grab him. Let him and AOA compete in camp for one of the safety positions.
3 (71). Marcus Cannon – This guy is grossly undervalued on MTD’s big board, he is easily a top 50 prospect and would be an absolute steal this late in the draft. While he can play RT, I think he is better suited as a guard. Could compete for a starting job early.
4 (109). Ben Ijalana – Another OL prospect who is undervalued on the MTD board, Ijalana would probably go sometime in the 2nd, but if he is here at 109 then I believe he is the BPA. With Cannon and Ijalana, the future of our interior oline is a bright one.
5 (138). Trade 140 + 210 to move up 2 spots to grab Alex Wujciak, the LB from Maryland. Bunting says this guy is the perfect fit as the jack ILB in a 3-4, and I believe him. I dislike giving up the 7th to move up, but by the rules of the game he would be gone otherwise and I don’t want to miss out on the heir apparent to Bradie James.
6 (171). John Clay – A bruising Wisconsin RB, Clay had three very productive seasons for the Badgers. He is unranked on MTD’s board, but this is consistent with were I’ve seen him ranked by other draft services. At 6-1 and 255 pounds, Clay can step in right away and contribute as the short yardage back.
by Spaceball on Jan 17, 2011 8:09 PM CST reply actions 7 recs
I really like
EVERYTHING.
Addresses needs through a combination of Free Agency and Draft. Love every FA and pick.
Check it out
ESPN top 32 graded college players
Would Von Miller be more efficient for the Cowboys or would Cam Jordan be more efficient?
I mean, with Miller, Ratliff and Ware, imagine the schemes Rob Ryan would conjure up!
Who says we need to get rid of Spencer.. he can be included in the packages?
Also
CBSsports has Von Miller higher then Cameron Jordan.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2011
Funny thing, both these sites have Von Miller as the 9th best player in the draft.
RD. 1 JOHN POUNCEY G/C 9TH
RD. 2 DUENTA WILLIAMS FS 40TH
RD. 3 CURTIS BROWN CB 71ST
RD. 4 MARCUS CANNON OT 104TH
RD. 5 JOHN MOFFITT OG 140TH
RD. 6 PIERRE ALLEN DE 171ST
I think what Crack is trying to say,
albeit in a not-so-friendly manner, is that Pouncey’s first name is Mike.
by Admiral Dallas on Jan 17, 2011 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
Trade picks #9, #71, #140, #171 to Cleveland for picks #6, #144, #206
Trade picks #40, #109, #144 to Cincinnati for picks #35, #141, #172
Trade picks #141, #206 to Carolina for pick #129
FINAL: #6, #35, #129, #172, #210
#6 – Prince Amukamara (CB, NEBRASKA): ‘nuff said
#35 – Gabe Carimi (OT, WISCONSIN) : Tyron Smith and Nate Solder options here. Both have huge upside, but I’ll take the production of Carimi at this point.
#129 – Casey Matthews (ILB, OREGON): I like what I’ve seen from Matthews, but people may be subconsciously overvaluing him because of his brother. However; he’s a good value here.
#172 – Orlando Franklin (OG, MIAMI): Undervalued based on these rankings. Great value here, and fills a need.
#210 – Terrell McClain (DT, UCF): Not on many people’s radars yet, but had a quietly impressive season. Here are two articles (one and two) to familiarize yourself with McClain, before you watch him in the East/West Shine game this coming Saturday.
by Jordan Sams on Jan 17, 2011 8:51 PM CST reply actions 9 recs
Tons of trades...
But I like what you are trying to do here. Rec’d
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Impressive strategy
That, along with the McClain heads-up/articles, earns a pass on his stealthiness. Thanks for them.
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
Unrealistic
I think the orders of some of these players are obviously unrealistic as someone already stated previously. I know I’m not suppose to trade down, but check this out.
Trade Pick 9 (1350) for Rams Pick 14 (1100) and Pick 78 (200)
Round 1 – Pick 014 – Cameron Jordan | 6’4, 285 pounds | DE | California
Trade Pick 40 (500) and 109 (76) for Bengals Pick 35 (550)
Round 2 – Pick 035 – Von Miller | 6’3, 240 pounds | OLB | Texas A&M
Trade Pick 71 (235) and Pick 78 (200) and Pick 171 (23) for 49ers Pick 45 (450)
Round 2 – Pick 045 – Rahim Moore | 6’1, 195 pounds | FS | UCLA
Trade Pick 140 (36) and Pick 210 (7.4) for Panthers Pick 129 (43)
Round 5 – Pick 129 – Casey Matthews | 6’1, 245 pounds | MLB | Oregon
I like the picks, but...
where’s the O-line upgrade?
by Admiral Dallas on Jan 17, 2011 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
Well
I’m still picking on the basis that CBA is signed and that Dallas addresses the OL in Free Agency. I mean, with players like Jeremy Trueblood, Jared Gaither, Logan Mankins, Carl Nicks, etc.. plus the players we already have on the practice squad, I think we can come out winning in this.
Good point.
I hope you’re right. I’m dying to sign one or two name FA offensive lineman (Mankins and Gaither, PLEASE)
by Admiral Dallas on Jan 17, 2011 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
I'm waiting
for OCC to post a Position Review on our Offensive Line and show us the PFF rankings of our players and the free agents available.
That will be a while yet. I’ve just started on the corners and will then move onto the D-line.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 18, 2011 4:07 AM CST up reply actions
Straight 7 pick draft
1 Clayborn / 6-2 / 282 / DE / Iowa
2 Moore / 6-1 / 195 / FS /UCLA
3 Watkin / 6-4 / 310 / OT / Baylor
4 Mathews / 6-1 / 245 / ILB / Oregon
5 Moffit / 6-5 / 320 / G / Wisconson
6 Culliver / 6-1 / 201 / FS/CB / South Carolina
7 Jasper / 5-10 /170 / K / LSU
by oldboysfan on Jan 17, 2011 10:06 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
No trades...here's my draft
1. (9) Derek Sherrod OT Mississippi State- Sherrod can come in and be a starter from day one at RT. If something happens to Free, we could slide Sherrod over to LT and feel good about it.
2. (40) Rahim Moore FS UCLA- I would be thrilled if Moore falls to us in round two. Instant starter and playmaker at FS, one of our biggest positions of need. He will be a HUGE upgrade over Alan Ball.
3. (71) Ahmad Black SS Florida- This pick is too good to pass up. I know we just drafted a FS, but the Cowboys could use as many playmakers in the secondary as possible. There is a good chance Ball and Sensabaugh both lose their starting jobs. Black is a little small, but he can do it all. He can hit, cover, and he has an ability to make things happen. The Cowboys will have 3 guys, AOA, Moore, and Black all competing for two starting jobs at safety. Moore and Black will probably start at safety and AOA will be a backup safety/ extra corner. Black could play some corner also. Can you imagine the packages Ryan can create with all this versatility in the secondary?
4. (109) Jeff Maehl WR Oregon- Maehl is just what this team needs. He would be a perfect fit at the 3rd WR spot for us. Roy Williams will be released finally, and we have a void at the number 3 receiver spot. Ogletree has shown potential, but he hasn’t been able to put it together yet. Maehl would be a great compliment to Dez and Miles in this offense.
5. (140) John Moffitt OG Wisconsin- The Cowboys get a great value pick here. Moffitt is an All-American who will come in right away and start at guard.
6. (171)- Steven Ridley RB LSU- Marion Barber will be cut, and Ridley will come in and compete with Lonyae Miller for the 3rd RB job.
7.(210)- The list we could choose from only made it to 200. I say with this pick just take a big dlineman with a high motor (similar to Lissemore last year).
I would be so happy if this is our draft in April. What do you guys think?
by Hank Hill on Jan 18, 2011 12:09 AM CST reply actions 10 recs
What the hell, everybody's in draft mode already...
- 13. Stephen Paea | 6’1, 311 pounds | DT | Oregon State
- 46. Stefen Wisniewski | 6’3, 302 pounds | C | Penn State
- 70. DeMarcus Love | 6’5, 315 pounds | OT | Arkansas (trade pick 71 + 210)
- 105. Mike Mohamed | 6’3, 237 pounds | MLB | California (trade pick 109 + 171)
- 149. Eric Hagg | 6’2, 210 pounds | SS | Nebraska
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
by tanstaafl on Jan 18, 2011 12:25 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
I have to ask...
What’s with trading to move up exactly one slot? I don’t understand that strategy.
Draft list only has...
200 players, pick 210’s worth 7.4 pts that would be otherwise wasted, so packaged with 71st pick it allowed moving up that one slot to draft DeMarcus Love (#71) rather than Danny Watkins (#72) to address OL. See Love as better pick, plus it was late and this was just done for fun since I’m not draft-mode yet. Just to throw some names out there, play the balance game with list and draft numbers. Not sure how some are drafting at #210 with only 200 players eligible, so like I said, rather than waste it…
Make sense? Maybe not.
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
Makes sense to me Tan ..but then .... ;)
Davie Wilson
"how bout them cowboys"!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Jan 18, 2011 5:41 PM CST up reply actions
never tried this before ,here goes...
1 . Cameron Jordan. (14) DE.
2. Rahim Moore. (45) FS
3. Ras I- Dowling CB (67) Traded up with picks 71+171(258 pts for 255)
4.Ben Ljalana G-OT (117)
5. Casey Mathews ILB.(129) Traded up with picks 140+210 (43.4 pts for 43 pts)
I want to pick up a G and OT in FA,allow my young guy’s( young,costa) more time to develop.
would consider tagging Sensi for 1 year ,allows me time to assess my young guy’s again- AOA -church. if not go the FA route.
of course we need the CBA to get settled,but it is a Mock after all. ;)
Davie Wilson
"how bout them cowboys"!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Jan 18, 2011 5:02 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
See the balance
LB choice musta been the scotch.
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
Case..y Mathews? cute lol.
Davie Wilson
"how bout them cowboys"!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Jan 18, 2011 7:12 PM CST up reply actions
I'm going to go with
the assumption that the CBA gets done and we’re able to get a starting right guard and safety (free or strong, doesn’t matter) in free agency.
Then I would go;
1) Stephen Paea, NT, OSU (allows Ratliff to move to DE)
2) Martez Wilson, ILB, Illinois
3) Ahmad Black, SS/Fs Florida (Chia has me sold on Black)
4) Ben Ijalana, OL Villanova (seriosly doubt he lasts this long)
5) Chris Hairston OT, Clemson
6) Steven Ridley, RB, LSU
see another Black fan
telling you guys Ahmad Black is awesome
Martez is a beast
by Archie Barberio on Jan 18, 2011 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
Here goes....
Round 1, Pick 9 – Cameron Jordan; DE – California
Round 2, Pick 36 – Gabe Carimi; OT – Wisconsin
(trading the 40, 140, and the 210 to move up from 40 to 36)
Round 3, Pick 71 – Ahmad Black; SS – Florida
Round 4, Pick 109 – Casy Matthews; ILB – Oregon
Round 6, Pick 171 – Darren Evans; RB – Virginia Tech
"....the Cowboy way...." (Head Coach, Jason Garrett)
by BishopWest on Jan 18, 2011 9:29 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
Great post and idea
I just realized with the current rankings, I am reaching on several picks but LOVE this mock draft outcome. Let me know what you think…
- - Mike Pouncey C/G (slated at 17)
- - Rahim Moore FS (slated at 45)
- - Phil Taylor NT (slated 77) – Yes, I am one of the move Ratliff to DE folk
- - Marcus Cannon OT (slated 113)
- - John Moffitt G (slated 142)
- 161 – Mario Harvey MLB (trade 171 & 210) For those of you that don’t know this Marshall MLB, in his 3 years as a starter (freshman year played well but only spot duty) he tallied 346 tackles. His senior year he had 122 tackles, 14.5 for a loss, and 6.5 sacks. I like him as a late round gem to eventually replace Bradie James in the middle.
As you can tell, O Line and Safety are my biggest concerns and I think this mock draft solves our OLine issues (present and future) and we add a young, talented, starting safety. The Phil Taylor pick also improves our DLine issues (as long as we resign Bowen and play him and Ratliff on the outside to create more pass rush while Taylor and brent hold down the NT position. Lissemore and maybe Spears or FA provide spot duty for DE position)
Thanks again OCC, great excercise!
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
by Kegbearer on Jan 18, 2011 9:46 AM CST reply actions 11 recs
I like this mock
A draft made up only of meat-and-potatoes positions (D-Line, O-Line, MLBs, safeties), no glamor positions at all like WR, RB, CB, TE, QB etc. Kudos.
Years of chasing chasing the shiny things in a stars-and-scrubs team building approach has resulted in lack of depth and talent at the meat-and-potatoes positions. Let’s hope we use this draft to correct those mistakes.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 18, 2011 10:19 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Cheers
You read my mind about depth and as you put it – meat and potatoes positions. While I am at a point in my life where I know myself and believe in myself enough to not require recognition or praise…I have to be honest that whenever you give me kudos I do get the warm and fuzzies.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Agreed
But I wanted to stay within the post guidelines and not trade down.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Great call on Mario Harvey.
I have been reading up on him lately and his numbers are extremely impressive for a guy you could get that late. I also like that he seems like much less of a project considering his size and relative speed. My only question about him is whether he could be a consistent three down linebacker.
The only problem I have with your mock is that ultimately I think you are drafting two guards. Mike Pouncey is more or less limited to guard unlike his brother and Marcus Cannon seems like he will have to move inside. As such, the only thing I would change for this mock is that I would reach for Sherrod as opposed to Pouncey in the first round.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
by Creasy729 on Jan 18, 2011 12:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Scratch that, it looks like you are drafting 3 guards.
Yeah now that I noticed Moffit as well you might want to consider changing that pick as well. Of course, that is just my opinion.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
by Creasy729 on Jan 18, 2011 12:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah
I thought about that. I like having both Pouncey and Costa with C/G versatility and then the true (with upside) G in Moffitt. In the end, I am hoping Cannon can play RT with some good coaching to improve his footwork and improve his agility. I also don’t know enough about James Brewer at spot #111 to draft him (any info would be appreciated). I strongly considered Sherrod with the #9, but I actually think Pouncey can play either position so I liked that versatility value and Cannon’s value at spot #113 on the rankings.
I agree about Harvey. I basically think he is in the Wujciak mold (but with better value due to where he is currently ranked) a big thumper they can knock people out, but may not have the ability to cover well and be every down ILB. However, he does have better speed (pretty sure) than Wojack, so there is greater hope he can develop his coverage skills. he actually reminds me a lot of Bradie James coming out of college.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Fair enough.
I can see where you are coming from. I just think Cannon would be out of place at RT. But that is just my opinion.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
HAHA
Just to clarify, is the mock draft dope (meaning good) or are you calling me a dope?
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Very interested about Harvey since he is pretty short at 5'11.
I also hate the idea of drafting Pouncey. He is just like Gurode, but worse at the shotgun snap.
You like short players? By the way, I have also seen him listed at 6’.
Gurode is (was) pretty damn good at playing center…do you mean he is like Gurode in the early/late snaps?
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Like the Harvey pick
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
I really like that draft, but...
I would have drafted a tackle at 17. I like Pouncey, but I think that Moffitt and Cannon can both start at guard for you. I think that Cannon will be an above average guard, but I think he will struggle at tackle. 17 would be a perfect area to select one of the top tackles in the draft. I think Pouncey will be a good player, but not quite as good as his brother. But that doesn’t mean that Mike won’t be really good; it’s just that Maurkice is REALLY good. I like your idea of meat and potatoes. If you draft a tackle at 17, you could possibly have three new starters on the oline which would be great. Wow, I’m very intrigued by Mario Harvey. Good job, I really like this draft.
Cameron Heyward seems to early for me at 9.
There’s better talent there. I see him being a late first round pick.
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"All we hear is about that defense, they can't stop a nose bleed." - Bart Scott on the Patriots Defense
Straight 7
1. (9) Derek Sherrod OT Mississippi State
2. (40) Rahim Moore FS UCLA
3. (71) Ahmad Black SS Florida
4. (109) Casey Matthews ILB Oregon
5. (140) John Moffitt OG Wisconsin
6. (171) Aldrick Robinson WR SMU
7. (210) DL
I don’t like the lack of DL but value for needs was there so…
Semper Fi Do or Die
by Jeremiah_24 on Jan 18, 2011 11:09 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
you know
I see alot of people taking Aldrick Robinson, #24 on SMU and I love that guy
I would love to get a SMU WR
Ahmad Black has some fans, like myself
Casey Matthews has fans like myself
John Moffitt has some fans like myself
those are the most drafted players on everyones mocks, good picks
by Archie Barberio on Jan 18, 2011 11:54 AM CST reply actions
Mocking Without Free Agency!
It was the D that collapsed so they will be the priority. The right side of the O-line also collapsed, but this years draft doesn’t have value in the early rounds at O-line.
Dallas picks:
1-9: Aldon Smith | 6’4, 258 pounds | DE | Missouri
Because: BPA – our D can’t succeed without a pass rushing LOLB – Spencer is a fail!
*Alternatives:
****Cameron Jordan, DE – Without a trade down he isn’t a good value here… Our D can succeed without a pass rushing 3-4 DE – We can still resign Marcus Spears or play Josh Brent and/or Sean Lissemore and we already have our pass rushing DE – Jay Ratliff!
****Trade Up? – No, our team has too many needs without Free Agency to give up premium (i.e. 3rd-5th round) picks in a trade up…
2-40: Rahim Moore | 6’1, 195 pounds | FS | UCLA
Because: NEED – Best safety in the draft! The NFL is a passing league now and Alan Ball is the weakest link on the team!
*Alternatives:
****Von Miller, OLB – BPA, has been misrated at 35th and makes an incredibly attractive trade-up target! Chaos package here we come!
****Gabe Carimi, OG – NEED, just another guard… Not worth a 2nd round pick.
****Trade Up? – VALUE, if there is a moment to do it, it’s here… for Von Miller!
3-71: Phil Taylor | 6’4, 355 pounds | DT | Baylor
Because: NEED – we’ve always known the 3-4 can’t succeed against the run without a monster NT in the middle. Jay Ratliff is a pro bowl NT but my eyes aren’t lying when I see him get blown up on running downs… Time to move Jay to DE and let him go against the other teams worst G.
*Alternatives:
****Danny Watkins OG, – NEED, a good pick but an older player who will have a shorter career. With these player rankings we can get our guard later…
**** Dontay Moch, OLB – VALUE, really tempting… An amazing athlete for a LB! Imagine the Ryan’s chaos package with an athlete like this on the field!
****Curtis Brown, CB – BPA, what if Mike Jenkins really is what we saw this year?! Yikes…
****Right Tackle – ouch… No pick yet… Is Sam Young really the answer?
4-109: Ben Ijalana | 6’4, 320 pounds | OT/G | Villanova
Because: NEED! – we can’t win next year without rebuilding the right side of our O-line, Leonard Davis is AWFUL!!!
*Alternatives:
****Marcus Cannon, G/OT, TCU – NEED, can play both RT and RG providing excellent flexibility.
****Colin McCarthy, LB, Miami – value, we just picked an ILB last year but we still need someone to replace Bradie James… The lack of sacks from our ILB’ers is unacceptable!
****Alex Wujciak, ILB, Maryland – value, playmaker (see above)
5-140: Rashad Carmichael | 5’11, 186 pounds | CB | Virginia Tech
Because: value, need someone to compete with Orlando Scandrick and Brian McCann and push them to make the roster. We need better depth at CB in case we don’t resign Jenkins or cut Newman in 1-2 years.
*Alternatives: in the 5th-7th rounds none of us really know the players well enough… lol
6-171: Orlando Franklin | 6’7, 312 pounds | G | Miami (Fla.)
**Because: value, need to start getting better depth on our O-line bench.
7-210: Marcus Gilbert | 6’5", 320 pounds | OT | Florida (unranked)
**Because: value, Sam Young needs some competition…
No OT till the 7th round could ruin the season if Sam Young isn’t ready! Missing out on Colin McCarthy (LB, Miami Fl.) and Alex Wujciak (ILB, Maryland) really hurts. Rob Ryan isn’t going to be able to transform this D without better play at linebacker. Hopefully there will be an opportunity to trade one of the backups (e.g. Tashard Choice) for a 4th round pick and get an ILB.
by wwilbur3 on Jan 18, 2011 12:10 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Mine is a bit weird, but I spent some time on it.
I really wanted to address our lack of really good Safeties. I like Sensabaugh, but he could be lost in FA, but if he is retained then one of the two Safeties drafted could have some time to learn. Alan Ball is gone though. I didn’t pick up a DE player, but I feel like we can address that in FA. Bowen and Spears did decent enough and so only 1 spot needs to be filled and it could be done by Ratliff. Tell me what you all think. :)
1 – Pick 9 – Mike Pouncey | 6’5, 320 pounds | G/C | Florida
A bit of a reach, I know, but I think he could spend a year or two at RG or LG and then replace Gurode at C. If I could have traded down then I would have.
2 – Pick 40 – Rahim Moore | 6’1, 195 pounds | FS | UCLA
Awesome safety, easily our biggest need.
Trade Pick 71 and 171 for Pick 68
3 – Pick 68 – Robert Sands | 6’4, 221 pounds | FS | West Virgnia
I’ll be honest, I don’t know much about Robert Sands, but I REALLY like his size and he leadership. He could easily play CB and FS/SS. Watch some of his highlights, he hits HARD. I almost went for Ahmad Black here, but I really dislike seeing a 5’9" guy as a SS. He is supposed to cover a TE like Witten? No thanks.
4 – Pick 109 – Marcus Cannon | 6’5, 350 pounds | OT | TCU
RT/RG is a huge need. I’ll take a guy that can fill both easily. Super Athletic and I could see him manning either position and that would bode well for the Cowboys.
Trade Pick 140 and 210 for Pick 129
5 – Pick 129 – Casey Matthews | 6’1, 245 pounds | MLB | Oregon
If he is anything like his brother then this will be a huge pick up seeing as how our depth at ILB is very thin and Brooking is on his last leg.
by Static on Jan 18, 2011 12:43 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Tell you what
If we could land Pouncey and Moore in first two rounds, I’d be thrilled to death
In Romo we Trust
Pouncey...
going at #9 seems insane. His brother, who is more versatile and apparently has more upside went much lower last year.
If trade downs were allowed
Then I would have dropped to pick 17 and got him there. I really didn’t want to do DE at 9.
Mine
1.9 NT Stephen Paea, Oregon St – Didnt really like any of the choices, but this pick fit the best with the rest of my draft.
2.40 OT Tyron Smith, USC – For me, the easiest pick to make. I know he needs to put on weight, but I would take him here and plug him in at LT. Move Free to RT as Smith seems a better fit to protest Romo’s blind side.
3.71 SS Ahmad Black, Florida – Also a little small, but plays bigger than he looks.
4.109 ILB Casey Mattews, Oregon – I’m sure many pick this kid here. I wanted to go elsewhere, but too many good OLinemen later in the draft. Was tempted to pick the Nebraska kicker here.
5.140 OG John Moffitt, Wisconsin – Love this kid. I hope we pick him up in the 4th.
6.171 DE Greg Romeus, Pittsburgh – Was injured this year, so will fall this far because of it. People thought he might be a 1st round pick coming into this season. A little light for our scheme at 270 lbs, but his 6-6 frame could hold 20-25 more lbs.
7.210 OG Clint Boling, Georgia – He’s ranked 200th and we have the 210th pick, so I took some liberties, but this far out who’s counting. But this is not a throw away pick, as I’ve seen mocks where he’s 3rd or 4th round.
by TCBinNYC on Jan 18, 2011 1:52 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Like Tyron Smith
But no way they insert a rookie to protect Romo’s blindside. We just lost him to IR last season.
by topgrosscloser on Jan 18, 2011 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
And the fact that Free performed well
and can play elsewhere as a LT. He will get paid LT money to stay here as our LT not RT.
Semper Fi Do or Die
Agreed, he is a top LT, and we will pay him like it, leave him there.
Put the rookie on the RT spot, that he played in collage, so Romo can see when he gets beat. And he will get beat, all rookies go thru learning curves.
Might like it...
more thinking Ware/Ratliff/Paea. Maybe not.
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
Great exercise
I’m not familiar enough with the college circuit to participate with a creative draft. But I have to say – this is a great thread and has been a great way to get an ‘index’ of players to go learn about.
I do not understand the love for Stephen Paea.
We already have a ton of guys like him on the roster. He lacks the size to be a “true” NT and lacks the quickness to be a force at 3-4 DE.
Suppose quick/easy explanation is think Ratliff.
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
The two "Ratliff-like" players in the draft IMO are...
Nick Fairley (the sky is also blue) and…Marvin Austin. Last year he generated a ton of pressure on a Tarheel team lacking rushers outside of Quinn and…Quinn. Quinn and Austin were basically playing with a bunch of JAGs and still produced.
Sort of like Ware and Ratliff
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#1: Tyron Smith, OT — I hear that he’s going to shoot up draft boards once the combine rolls around, especially if he bulks up between now and then. Reach now, value then.
#2: Ben Ijalana, OT/G — I picked him because his name is fun to say. That and he should go around where we pick in the second.
#3: Casey Matthews, ILB — This feels like a good place for him to go. I suspect that his brother will help him put on seventy pounds of muscle before the combine.
#4: Ahmad Black, S — This is just because he seems to be so popular amongst other fans. Plus he fills a need.
#5: Brandon Bair, DT/DE — He’s a giant. I’ve always wanted a giant on my defensive line. Let him play DE. I have a feeling he can fit some more muscle on him somewhere to make him an unstoppable killing machine.
#6: Ryan Pugh, C — It took me a while to get to this position. He can have a year or two to develop as long as you don’t mind the ball being snapped low, high, or at random times, leaving the rest of the o-line confused in their stances.
#7: I think this goes to a WR. We have plenty, but we have a good track record with late-rounders. So find a burner who needs some polish and take him here.
by Ekijoh on Jan 18, 2011 4:14 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Yay trading.... we should be able to trade down 9, 40, 71, 109, 140, 171 and 210 picks
9. Prince Amukamura , CB , Nebraska
40. Corey Liuget, DE/DT, Illinois
Dallas trades picks 71 and 140 to move up to 64.
64. Marcus Cannon. OT/G – TCU
Dallas trades picks 109 and 171 to move up to 100
100. Deunta Williams, FS – NC
210. Terrell McClain, DT/DE – South Florida
by nicholas.rodriguez on Jan 18, 2011 5:56 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
lol left our pick numbers in there, was using for quick reference....
whoops should’ve deleted
by nicholas.rodriguez on Jan 18, 2011 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
Mock draft, no trades,
Round 1, Pick 9- Prince Amukamara, Nebraska CB: Newman’s successor and someone to compete with Jenkins and Scandrick
Round 2, Pick 40- Stefen Wisniewski, Penn State C/G: Much needed interior depth. Resembles a guard who relies on technique more so than athleticism. Has a high football IQ.
Round 3, Pick 71- Robert Sands, West Virginina FS: Unfortunately the small safety class pushes Black, Williams, and Moore out of reach, so we go with this Hokie. Still, decent value.
Round 4, Pick 109- Derek Hall, Stanford OT: RT of the future
Round 5, Pick 140- Bruce Miller DE/OLB: A pass rusher with a small frame, reminds me of Trent Cole
Round 6, Pick 171- Chris Galippo, USC ILB: Not gonna lie, took this pic from draft tek and I really like it. With the Packers playing so well, someone is going to reach for Casey Matthews a round too early, so it’s great to get a value pick here.
Round 7, Pick 210- Greg Romeus, Pitt DE Another one of those guys with not the most impressive measurable, but with the work ethic and motor to succeed at higher levels.
Didn’t carpet bomb any position, and went for value and guys who produced in college over “upside”. However, no one position on the team got more than one new potential starter. Does this satisfy Cowboys fans?
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by Rat-Pack on Jan 18, 2011 6:19 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
Interesting tidbit
Seems Casey Matthews didn’t receive a scholarship from USC (causing him to be a Duck), who signed Galippo instead. LB picks arouse my curiousity.
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
It's definitely a need no one is talking about.
Brooking is a Wade guy, James is solid as always but getting older, Lee has durability issues.
Even if they are Day 3 picks, the ILB depth is a big need.
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Yep, agreed
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
PRINCE NOT AVAILABLE AT 9
You have to trade to 6 to get him. Greatly affects outcome.
by topgrosscloser on Jan 18, 2011 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
Unrealistic and Against the Rules
I did my 7 rounder above, but thought I would do an “Ideal but Unrealistic” version as well. I am allowing myself trade downs here, but only for slightly less value on the value chart. So, here’s what I came away with:
- Dallas was on the clock at #9 and with all their top targets gone, prepared to draft OT Derek Sherrod. However, StLouis called wanting to move up for Julio Jones. Dallas traded pick 1.9 and 3.71 (1585 points) for picks 1.14, 2.46, and 5.142.
- Dallas was on the clock at pick #14 preparing to draft Sherrod again. This time we felt good about drafting Sherrod here. However, New Orleans called and wants to trade up for Mark Ingram who they are convinced will be going 15th the Dolphins. They dangle 1.24 and 2.56 (1080) for 1.14 (1100) and we accept.
- Dallas has no intention of trading down even further at this point. Several OL targets are still on the board, but Dallas can’t believe OLB Von Miller, a player they have with a top 12 grade, is still available. The card is filled out and everyone in the war room is shaking hands when someone says that Atlanta is one the phone and wanting this pick. They are offering 1.27, 4.123, and 6.187 (745.6) for 1.24 and 7.210 (751.4). We take a look at the board and surmise we dont believe any of the teams in between those picks with take Miller. However, if they do we still like Carmini and Tyron Smith. We are getting antsy to improve our team, but we accept.
PICK: We hold our breath for the next three picks and finally breathe when Von Miller is still available after three trade downs. We make the pick. It’s not a top position of need, but we feel its a steal with the 27th overall pick. OLB Von Miller is a Cowboy. Somewhere Anthony Spencer squirms.
- Now that we’ve accumulated some extra picks, we feel this is the time to make a move back into the late first or early second round. Carmini is the target and he’s still on the board. We fear the Bears or Steelers will take him at the end of the round, so we strike a deal with the Jets. The price is steep. Picks 2.40, 4.109, and 4.123 (625) go to the Jets for pick 1.30 (620).
PICK: Dallas has its Right Tackle for the next 10 years in Wisconsin OT Gabe Carmini.
- A guy Dallas really likes on the D Line is Temple’s Muhammad Wilkerson. Rob Ryan has been high on this guy to play DE in the 3-4 for a long time. He knows for sure that Cleveland will take him with the 37th overall pick in the 2nd round. He convinces the Dallas staff to see if they can get into position to steal him. After working the phones, Dallas has made another trade. This time they swap with Denver. They move directly in front of Cleveland by trading picks 2.46, 2.56, and 6.187 (796.6) for picks 2.36 and 3.68 (790).
PICK: DE Muhammad Wilkerson, Temple. He should fit our system (or, Rob Ryan’s new system) perfectly.
- Dallas is elated about how the draft has gone so far. They didnt intend to make so many moves, or make 3 of the first 36 picks. But now they only have 4 picks left in the remaining 5 rounds. They decide to lay low for a while. As Rahim Moore dropped, they considered reaching into next year’s draft to make a trade for him, but cooler heads prevail and they hope to get a Safety later in the draft.
- With the 3rd round pick (#68) Dallas has two targets. They want either ILB Quan Sturdivant from UNC or CB Ras-I Dowling from Virginia. They’re crushed to see them go 64th and 67th. They consider Safeties Robert Sands and Ahmad Black with this pick, but end up trading it to Indianapolis who wants to move up to take a sliding DeMarcus Love. They receive picks 3.86, 4.118 and 6.182 (236.6) for pick 3.68 (250).
PICK: Dallas really needs someone to fill one of the many needs in the secondary at this point. A guy they really like is Ahmad Black, who they have an early 3rd round grade on. He’s good value here, but there is another player with an even higher grade. Looks like Rob Ryan is really convinced we need to rebuild this line more than the secondary. With the 86th pick in the draft, Dallas selects NT Jarrell Powe, Ole Miss.
- OK, the lack of a secondary player is starting to weigh on the coaching staff. They see their boy Black falling and they pounce. Green Bay accepts picks 4.118, 5.140, 6.171, and 6.182 (135.6) for picks 3.93 and 7.221 (131).
PICK: Without hesitation, Dallas sprints up the card reading SS Ahmad Black, Florida to the podium.
- New Orleans comes calling again when we are on the clock at 5.142. We like John Moffitt here, but so do they. They offer more than fair market value of 5.152 and 6.184 (48.4) for 5.142 and 7.221 (38) so we accept.
- One more small trade down with pick 152 nets us two 7th rounders.
PICKS: Dallas selects 6.184 CB Talmadge Jackson, Oregon; 7.195 HB Darren Evans, Va Tech; and 7.199 OG Clint Boling, Georgia. They also take a flyer on UFA C Alex Linnenkohl, Oregon State.
So, final assessment:
1.27 OLB Von Miller, Texas A&M
1.30 OT Gabe Carmini, Wisconsin
2.36 DE Muhammed Wilkerson, Temple
3.86 NT Jarell Powe, Ole Miss
3.93 SS Ahmad Black, Florida
6.184 CB Talmadge Jackson, Oregon
7.195 HB Darren Evans, Va Tech
7.199 OG Clint Boling, Georgia
UFA C Alex Linnemkohl, Oregon State
by TCBinNYC on Jan 18, 2011 6:34 PM CST reply actions 8 recs
What is everyone's infatuation with Von Miller?
In the 3-4, the OLB must be able to cover too. Spencer has graded out well in the run game and against the pass. With Rob Ryan, the Cowboys will be rushing unexpectedly. I know he had a monster game in Jerry World, but Derrick Harvey out of Florida was supposed to be the next big thing too. So was some guy named Vernon Gholston. I know this is a circumstantial argument, so I will digress.
PFF ranked the Cowboys with the best front 7. Call me crazy, but that doesn’t sound like a need. Von Miller is a luxury pick that Garrett can not afford to make.
I still love this draft overall though! Rec’d!
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I like that there's a lot of picks
Von Miller can cover – he’s a world class athlete at the OLB position. What’s wrong with adding talent like that?
That said, he’s going to be a top 15 pick. He’s had about 28 sacks in 2 years
by AustonianAggie on Jan 19, 2011 9:40 AM CST up reply actions
Like it a lot.
Certainly a very interesting variety of trades.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
OCC
Are you doing another draft challenge like last year where we just have to pick the players and not mock their positions?
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Yes
But that’s going to be much closer to the draft, something like mid-April
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 19, 2011 2:02 AM CST up reply actions
Difficult to play within the rules,
But here we go.
8. Robert Quinn | 6’5, 265 pounds | DE | North Carolina (Trade 9 and 71 for 108, 139, 170, and 209)
40. Rahim Moore | 6’1, 195 pounds | FS | UCLA
107. Kenrick Ellis | 6’5, 340 pounds | DT | Hampton (trade 109 171 and 210, for 107 and 168)
108. Marcus Cannon | 6’5, 350 pounds | OT | TCU
117. Ben Ijalana | 6’4, 320 pounds | OT/G | Villanova (trade 139 and 168 for 117)
129. Casey Matthews | 6’1, 245 pounds | MLB | Oregon (trade 140 and 209 for 129)
170. Steven Ridley | 6’0, 223 pounds | RB | LSU
If draft time rolled around, and this were to actually happen… well lets just say I would have to change my pants. What do you think?
by topgrosscloser on Jan 18, 2011 6:53 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
Not a bad haul by any means.
I probably would have addressed O-line earlier but I like the picks of Quinn, Moore, and Ijalana.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
thanks
could have definitely went O-line with 2nd pick, but Moore is just too good to pass up at 40 and fills a great need. The drop off between him and a later round safety is tremendous, whereas I think that Ijalana and Cannon are not too far behind what o-line is available at 40, comparatively speaking.
by topgrosscloser on Jan 18, 2011 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
A valid point indeed.
And actually, I didn’t realize how much your slots had changed because for some reason I thought you took Ellis at #71 over Danny Watkins. Him at #107 is a much better deal.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
Don't tell OCC
I traded down without “trading down” ;-)
by topgrosscloser on Jan 18, 2011 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
this is assuming jerry spends lots of money in FA
Trade 9,40 for 4,135,197 and select Fairley then trade 71,109,135,197 for 54 and select D. Williams then trade 140,171,210 for 113 and select. Cannon
Sorry for the lack of structure but I’m on a nook color
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
love it
too bad none of this will happen
im drooling over some of these mocks
by Archie Barberio on Jan 18, 2011 7:56 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
The Real Deal
Trade – Pick 09 (1350) + Pick 40 (500) = Pick 04 (1800)
Round 1 – Pick 004 = DL – Nick Fairley (Beast)
Trade – Pick 71 (235) + Pick 210 (7.6) = Pick 70 (240)
Round 3 – Pick 070 = OT – Demarcus Love (Team Captain)
Round 4 – Pick 109 = FS – Mark LeGree (Ball Hawk)
Round 5 – Pick 140 = ILB – Mario Harvey (Consistent)
Round 6 – Pick 171 = WR – Aldrick Robinson (Track-Star Receiver)
by cwbys on Jan 18, 2011 8:39 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
You and 88Deztined a little further up are the first to go for Fairley
Interesting. I thought a lot more people would go after Fairley, as he is easily within reach in the scenario we are using here. Your first and second will get you Fairley here.
Does the fact that so few go that route mean that Fairley is not worth a 1st and 2nd?
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 19, 2011 3:42 AM CST up reply actions
MY FIRST BTB POST
…been a die-hard Cowboys fan since 1977… long-time reader… enjoyed this thread, so thought I’d finally post and put in my picks…
1st RD… (8) Robert Quinn DE / North Carolina …(Trade 1st RD and 4th RD pick to move up)
2nd RD… (40) Raheem Moore FS / UCLA
3rd RD… (71) Pat Devlin QB / Delaware …(NOTE: this kid is the real deal!!!… we need to steal him!)
4th RD… (traded)
5th RD… (140) Chris Hairston OT / Clemson
6th RD… (160) Brandyn Thompson CB / Boise St. (Trade 7th RD pick to move up)
7th RD … (traded)
NOTES: R Quinn = J Peppers, simply a beast … Devlin is the man, trust me on this one!… WE MUST DRAFT HIM!!!… we can’t skip over him like we did Drew Brees in the draft.
Thanks for letting me post :)
Thoughts?
by EastCoastCowboy on Jan 18, 2011 8:50 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
From what i read
Pat Devlin isn’t a bad pick. He’s only thrown two interceptions in 350 attempts this season. If he sits on the bench for 2, maybe 3, years working under center, arm strength, multiple reads and tightening his spiral he could become a started after Romo.
this kid...
went to high school in Downingtown, PA… town next door to me… he killed!… should have went to Miami, but chose Penn State because his folks were alums… he beat Ohio State as a red-shirt freshman, and then they sat him for Robinson when he got healthy… don’t blame Pat for saying “f-you” and transfering out after that…
His local presence was and is waaaay higher than Matt Ryan’s ever was in this area (he’s from the town next to Downingtown… Exton, PA)… and he should be more pro-ready than Flacco…
My concern is that once he rips it up in the east-west shrine game and kills it at the combines, his stock will rise… and my boy Jerry won’t want to use a 2nd rounder on him…
Romo is “ok”… but he was undrafted for a reason… Devlin could be the next REAL cowboys QB after Aikman.
PLUS… he wears #17… Dandy Don Meredith’s number… that’s a sign!
by EastCoastCowboy on Jan 18, 2011 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
Just like JaMarcus Russell was #1 overall for a reason and Tom Brady was 6th Round for a reason
Please. That argument is so lame.
Romo is "ok"
I hope you mean “ok” as in healthy.
Romo is definitely not “ok”. John Kitna is “ok”.. Romo is one of the top 10 Qbs in the league.
gotta love a draft that swings for the fences
Which is what a QB pick is… Devlin would never get enough playing time in bigD. We don’t play our rookies enough to develop them…
First make 6 trades!
1) 171,210 (31.4 points)for 190,197 (28 points) from New York Jets
2) 9,71,Jets 190 (1601.4 points) for 6 (1600 points) from Cleveland
3) 109,140, Jets 197 (124.6 points) for 95 (120 points) from Jacksonville
4) 40 (500 points) for 48,112,209 (497.8 points) from Oakland
5) Raiders 209 (7.8 points) for 219, 220 (7.2 points) from Atlanta
6) Raiders 112, Falcons 220 (73.4 points) for 111 (72 points) from St Louis
#6=Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska
#48=Tyron Smith OT USC
#95=Ahmed Black SS Florida
#111=Marcus Cannon OT TCU
#220=Ian Williams DT Notre Dame
by Andrew Warren on Jan 18, 2011 11:24 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
You can't trade down...
Semper Fi Do or Die
by Jeremiah_24 on Jan 19, 2011 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
seriously people this is the best one
I love all those players
by Archie Barberio on Jan 19, 2011 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
Free Agents along with this.
Maybe Eric Weddle and Kirk Morrison.
by Andrew Warren on Jan 20, 2011 12:23 AM CST up reply actions
Marvin Austin is
a fat idiot, and that’s his good qualities.
too bad one can’t trade down – I could get a decent ILB and CB with the additonal point values, but you play the game as it is
9 20. Derek Sherrod | 6’6, 300 pounds | OT | Mississippi State
40 51. Quinton Carter | 6’1, 195 pounds | FS | Oklahoma
71 95. Ahmad Black | 5’9, 185 pounds | SS | Florida
104 107. Kenrick Ellis | 6’5, 340 pounds | DT | Hampton
140 142. John Moffitt | 6’5, 320 pounds | G | Wisconsin
171 179. Orlando Franklin | 6’7, 312 pounds | G | Miami (Fla.)
210 not listed Owen Marecic 6’1, 245 pounds FB Stanford
My Draft from Heaven
at #9 Mark Ingram | 5’10, 215 pounds | RB | Alabama <— Relegate Felix to back up
at #40 Nate Solder | 6’9, 305 pounds | OT | Colorado
71. Phil Taylor | 6’4, 355 pounds | DT | Baylor <— Move Brent to DE
104. Josh Bynes | 6’2, 239 pounds | MLB | Auburn <—- Back up Bradie James
140. Justin Boren | 6’3, 320 pounds | G | Ohio State
171. Jermale Hines | 6’1, 216 pounds | FS | Ohio State
210 DeJon Gomes | 6’0, 200 pounds | FS | Nebraska
All of these guys were rated slightly below where Dallas picks, except pick #210, I figured somebody would drop to us eventually.
I wanted to write in how Dallas traded the 2nd + 3rd to move up to also get Von Miller, but that rating is not going to hold up. He’s someone to think about at pick #9
I took Mark Ingram for one reason: Platoons of backs are ineffective. We need one lead horse. I’d like to see Felix back returning kicks, and executing mostly trick plays like Reggie Bush does.
2 things
Platoons of backs are ineffective
Kansas City would like to disagree.
Felix back returning kicks, and executing mostly trick plays like Reggie Bush does
Felix was never close to Reggie Bush in returning kicks. Plus he has brittle tendecies while doing so.
Semper Fi Do or Die
by Jeremiah_24 on Jan 19, 2011 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
KC has made it just as far as we have the last couple years in the playoffs
and I’m talking KR where Felix is excellent, has a TD, not PR
by AustonianAggie on Jan 19, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
Ok
KC has made it just as far as we have the last couple years in the playoffs
While that might be true, it wasn’t due to their running game. They only were able to run the ball 16 times against the Ravens for 6.38 ypc between the three backs. RBBC can be effective.
and I’m talking KR where Felix is excellent, has a TD, not PR
46 career returns, 1 for a TD, 24.2 ypa. – Felix Jones
82 career returns, 3 for TD’s, 25.5 ypa. – Percy Harvin
Not exactly “Excellent”. Both years Felix returned kicks he got injured. Stopped returning last year and made it through. Strange correllation there. Trust me I am a big fan of Felix, not saying he’s awful just saying with his durability him and TChoice are a great combo and with him NOT returning kicks..
Semper Fi Do or Die
If
Dallas selects Mark Ingram, first round, then Felix Jones would have be traded. It will be the same thing as what happened with Patrick Crayton. Felix doesn’t want to be #2 again and I doubt Jerry would continue to pay him to be #2.
It would
also be similar to what Jimmy J did with Herschel Walker.
Many people are comparing Mark Ingram to Emmitt Smith.. and I don’t mean ChiaCrack only.
I have no idea whats going on in Felix's mind
but if he went down we’d have a terrible RB troupe.
Everywhere seems to compare Ingram to Emmitt. I wonder what real scouts are saying
by AustonianAggie on Jan 19, 2011 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
Did Matt Millen take over as GM?
How can you compare ANYONE to the Leading Rusher of all time?
the Cowboys averaged 29 points a game in Garrett’s tenure, only scoring less than 27 when the 3rd string QB was taking snaps. This was also done without Dez Bryant for half the time and one of the worst starting combo of RT and RG. The numbers don’t suggest that the offense is the team’s problem, they have enough playmakers and role-players. The Dallas Cowboys have a ton of needs on the defensive side and over all need to get younger; getting a RB who already has an injury in his career at this stage when they can easily get a UDFA to develop is bad strategy, and hopefully at the bottom of Garret’s list.
Adrian Peterson and Chris Johnson are some of the top RBs taken in the first round right? How many playoff wins have these guys accounted for? One, and it was over the Cowboys who were overwhelmed by Ray Edwards and Sidney Rice.
And for any suggesting this is a “Jerry pick”, remember this team is getting a RHG makeover and even Jerry Jones has only taken two RBs in the first: Emmitt and Felix.
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Our defective running game is why we couldn't close out teams
we ran poorly in the fourth quarter, and we couldn’t defend the run. If we had Ingram vs New Orleans,we could of run the clock out with a small lead instead of needing 2 scores — and then turning the ball over short of our goal.
Our defense is more susceptible to attacks because of our frequent 3&Outs. A guy who gets you in to third and short reliably would help immensely. While we need to improve our Offensive Line, it is clear at this time that Dallas does not have a Running Back who can control a game.
Ingram is that kind of back. He does everything very well, only limited by his tremendous physical talents.
by AustonianAggie on Jan 19, 2011 5:12 PM CST up reply actions
“When Mark Ingram runs he reminds me of Emmitt Smith.” – a lot of folks
by AustonianAggie on Jan 19, 2011 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
Just Saying...but
“When Tashard Choice runs he reminds me of Emmitt Smith”—alot of Folks
formerly I draft the Cowboys!!!
Yes...I am Ironman....seriously my last name is ironman in German
Knowledge and Skill overcome superstition and Luck-Dawn Patrol
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 20, 2011 2:48 AM CST up reply actions
ok, but I think Ingram is better. I doubt we’ll have the measureables to prove it though
by AustonianAggie on Jan 20, 2011 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
OK, everybody listen up!
We now have 11 mocks with at least four votes (four rec’s turns the comments green). I have added a ranking update at the top of the post. Check it out.
So far, Creasy729 is the top vote-getter with 11 rec’s. Everybody who reads this comment and hasn’t voted yet, please go back and rec those mocks that you like.
To all you mockers: You need rec’s to win this thing. Call your friends! Call your family! Call in all those favors other bloggers owe you! You need more rec’s.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 19, 2011 3:26 PM CST reply actions
No DQ's for trading down?
If so I would like to redo mine ;-)
by topgrosscloser on Jan 19, 2011 5:28 PM CST up reply actions
Amazing Collection of Talent
Round 1 – Pick 009 = Cameron Heyward | 6’6, 288 pounds | DE | Ohio State
Round 2 – Pick 040 = Rodney Hudson | 6’2, 283 pounds | G | Florida State |
Round 3 – Pick 071 = Ahmad Black | 5’9, 185 pounds | SS | Florida
Round 4 – Pick 109 = Colin McCarthy | 6’2, 240 pounds | MLB | Miami (Fla.)
Round 5 – Pick 140 = Rashad Carmichael | 5’11, 186 pounds | CB | Virginia Tech
Round 6 – Pick 171 = Brian Lainhart | 6’1, 206 pounds | FS | Kent State
Round 7 – Pick 210 = Lee Ziemba | 6’7, 304 pounds | OT | Auburn
UFA – James-Michael Johnson | 6’10, 227 pounds | MLB | Nevada
UFA – Alfonzo Dennard | 5’10, 197 pounds | CB | Nebraska
and Ziemba is ranked 90th. He certainly won’t be available in the 7th round :-)
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 19, 2011 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
Amazing Collection of Talent (corrected)
Round 1 – Pick 009 = Cameron Heyward | 6’6, 288 pounds | DE | Ohio State
Was considering trading up, but Cameron Heyward already comes from a 3-4 as oppose to Robert Quinn and Marcell Dareus. Personally, I think Robert Quinn would become an OLB if drafted by a 3-4 defense. To get Marcell requires too much to give up.
Cameron Heyward is a relentless pass rusher and highly motivated. He has a beautiful spin-move to get after inside runs.
“Though not a true outside pass-rush threat, he will pressure the quarterback no matter where he lines up. Lines up on either end, as well as at the five-technique and uses quickness off the snap and excellent length to split double-teams, get inside of linemen when man-up, or push back guards into the pocket. Agile enough to be effective on twists from the outside. Running backs and tight ends are no match against Heyward in pass protection. Tough one-on-one matchup for guards inside due to his lateral quickness, hustle and club move. Strong against the run whether lining up against guards or tackles. Maintains edge discipline to prevent bootleg plays on his side of the field.” by NFLDraftScout.com
Round 2 – Pick 040 = Rodney Hudson | 6’2, 283 pounds | G | Florida State |
I think this pick can become a reality. With most of the first round being defense, it is highly possible that Rodney Hudson falls to the second round and could be available to us when Dallas is on the clock.
Rodney Hudson is considered the best guard in the draft (Mike Pouncey – C) and most likely the fastest. He pulls well and can get to the second level. Although he’s small for a Guard, he can also play Center which would allow Gurode to move to Guard.
“Allowed just 1.5 sacks in 1400 career snaps. Gave up a sack in his first ever game as a true freshman and then went 16 straight games without allowing another. Has graded out as the top overall offensive lineman 11 times in 24 career games. Has posted the top run or pass grade an astonishing 23 times in his career. Has compiled nearly 100 knockdowns in his two-year career. Whistled for the first and only penalty of his career versus Virginia Tech in 2008 ending a streak of 1,024 snaps without being flag.” by NFLDraftScout.com
Round 3 – Pick 071 = Ahmad Black | 5’9, 185 pounds | SS | Florida
Projected as a 2-3 rounder, this is a no-brainer if he falls this far down. Considered a top 10 safety in this draft. Although he is out-matched by most TEs, he has football smarts and he’s a physical player. To top it off, he can make open-field tackles.
“Has very good instincts for the position. Reads the eyes of the quarterback and has good route-recognition skills. Rare coverage skills for the position due to his quick feet, balance, agility and straight-line speed. Has a smooth, low backpedal and typically maintains cushion before he is forced to change direction. Demonstrates the fluid hips and quick feet to turn and run efficiently without losing ground. Plays with good straight-line speed and agility and shows the late burst to close, especially downhill. Willing to crash down in the box and makes plays near the line of scrimmage.” by NFLDraftScout.com
Round 4 – Pick 109 = Colin McCarthy | 6’2, 240 pounds | MLB | Miami (Fla.)
Considered one of the top 5 ILBs of this draft, it would be a steal to pick him at this stage. He won’t “wow” you with anything fancy; however, he is versatile. He can play inside and outside and has experience with both. He’s got good awareness in coverage and can diagnose plays. He can shed off blockers and hits everything that moves
“LB Colin McCarthy was in double digits in tackles in each of his last three games, registering 35 of his 105 stops over that span. Ranked third among all ACC defenders with a 8.6 tackle per game average in league play. Was awarded the Training Room Comeback Player of the Year at the team’s annual awards banquet on Dec. 6. " by NFLDraftScout.com
Round 5 – Pick 140 = Rashad Carmichael | 5’11, 186 pounds | CB | Virginia Tech
Some project a second round, some project 4th round and others 5th round. He’s got the speed to close and is a reliable tackler.
“A fearless competitor who really elevated his game last season. Just keeps working and working. Understands his position and what offenses are doing. Fast and aggressive. Led the team in interceptions with six. Was honored for putting the team first during spring workouts. Will be looked to for leadership.” by NFLDraftScout.com
Round 6 – Pick 171 = Brian Lainhart | 6’1, 206 pounds | FS | Kent State
This man, although on this list, is actually projected to not be drafted. He is a straight-up ball-hawk! 17 Interceptions! 8 forced fumbles! He has made a career out of forcing turnovers. To make it even better, he is a tackling machine. Freshmen year, missed some games due to injury, 63 tackles. The following year, 106 tackles. Although his numbers were down this year, he is still a valuable pick at this stage.
“Brian Lainhart is a coach on the field and the staff is counting on him to lead the defensive unit” by NFLDraftScout.com
Round 7 – Pick 210 = Jake Vermiglio | 6’5, 315 pounds | OT | N. Carolina St
Another player not expected to be drafter. He is a big, tough, player that can play Tackle or Guard. Could be a gem.
“Vermiglio has played 815 snaps on the year without allowing a sack.” by NFLDraftScout.com
UFA – James-Michael Johnson | 6’1, 227 pounds | MLB | Nevada
He isn’t fast, but he’s athletic and a play-maker. He had 58 tackles and 11.5 were for loss.
by cwbys on Jan 19, 2011 9:25 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
My first draft attempt--in both meanings of the phrase
1. 9—Cameron Jordan DE—No ifs, ands, or buts out of me since Fairley, Peterson, and Prince are gone.
2. 40—Tyron Smith OT—Thought about Rahim Moore but I don’t want a rookie starting at FS which is where you need the savvy veteran, get a vet in FA. Smith is a great prospect for RT to instantly replace Colombo.
3. 65—(trade 71, 171, and 210 = 235+23+7 = 265 exactly) Deandre McDaniel SS—Here’s my rookie safety. Hard-hitter, goes for interceptions and the big play. Will play near the LOS or back deep wherever you want.
4. 109—Ben Ijalana OT—project tackle but can go inside right away to RG. Great prospect.
5. 140—Kai Forbath K—Must find some consistency in kicking game. From the internets: He’s got distance (high of 57 yards in HS, 5 FGs of more than 50 yards in one season, 10/13 from beyond 50 yards), performed under pressure (Texas, Houston, and last second win over Oregon State), consistency (102 of 104 PATs, 85/101 FGs 82%). He had a groin injury in 2010 reducing him to 13/18 that year, but was 72/83 the first 3 years. I like.
by mdlusk on Jan 20, 2011 5:44 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Further thoughts on this mock draft.
After further review, Tyron Smith might not be able to come in and start at RT right away, but he can develop in about a year or two. Thus Mankins (or equivalent) is necessary for renting for a year or two.
My thought process was this on the defense: We need two new safeties (though Sensabaugh was average), and I want new blood at SS young and ready to hit and go after things. At FS I want a savvy veteran capable of keeping everyone on the same page, so I want a free agent FS like Huff that can come in and already know Rob’s systems and ways of doing things. Then AOA can sit behind him and learn the new system for a couple seasons. One thing that I want to completely end is the CB/FS hybrid experiments. It sounds good on paper allowing you to save a roster spot, but in reality it has given us no better than average at both positions.
On offense I’m replacing the right side of the OL, with Mankins and Ijalana in place of Colombo and Davis. Smith comes in in a year or two, or we start him and give him TE help for most of the season until he gets his feet wet.
With a new pass-rushing DE with Rat and Ware, Spencer should be better with less to have to face, and gives us more flexibility to let Rob do his confusion thing and Abide.
I also want to target ILB backup for Lee and James, and nickel ILB. That went begging in my draft, but I couldn’t see as much value there to take. I want that a vet ILB from a system under Rob to help the front 7 learn their roles easier, too, he can be either the nickel ILB or just the 4th backup that we rent for a year or two. Next year we draft another ILB high.
With the new safety combo and the better front 7 pressure, I think the CBs will show up much better. I’d like to find an eventual replacement for Newman, but to me, that was only Prince or Peterson, and I didn’t want to make the sacrifice to move up to get them.
On offense we only needed OL and maybe depth at WR, depending on Roy’s status with the team.
On special teams K gets solved, and we can choose to retain Beuhler as KO specialist/coverage team or not. McDaniel would be a good addition to coverage teams, and Tyron Smith, if not starting, can help with the return teams (in place of Colombo).
I’m sure all this is tl,dr (too long, didn’t read) for most, but in case you wanted to see a bit more about what I thought….
Shot in the dark
I’ll give it a shot…….albeit in the dark and it for sure wont happen.
trade the # 9 & #71 picks for the Rams # 14 , #47, #142 & #175 picks
trade the #140 & # 210 picks for the Packers # 175
# 14…..select OT Derek Sherrod Mississippi State (OL for next 10 years)
# 40….select C Stefen Wisniewski Penn St (replacement for Gurode)
# 47….select DE Muhamad Wilkerson Temple (position of need)
# 109….select OG Marcus Cannon TCU (OL for next 10 years)
# 134….select LB Colin McCarthy Miami (heir to Bradie James position)
#142….select CB Rashad Carmichael Virgina tech (depth concerns)
# 171…select FS Brian Lainhart Kent State (ballhawk safety is always a good sign)
# 175…select K Kai Forbath UCLA (Buehler & Brown…enough said)
We have to develop our OL. Columbo, Davis, Kosier and Gurode all have severly shown their age. Kosier is the smartest at calling the OL adjustments. When he is out of the lineup that duty falls on Gurode (he’s not that smart and Romo pays the price).
We will have to pick up a FA safety who is smart and can make to calls in the secondary. Ball looked lost and Sensi always looked out of position. Newman is getting old and Jenkins relied on his talent rather than with technique.
At kicker, Buehler hads some accuracy issues and Brown doesn’t have a strong leg.
Some nice picks there,
but trading the 140 and 210 for the Packers 175 is a “trade down” and not allowed in this scenario.
You cannot trade down
"....the Cowboy way...." (Head Coach, Jason Garrett)
OK, No trade downs, bye the rules
Round 1 – Pick 009 = Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska
Round 2 – Pick 040 = Stefen Wisniewski C Penn St
Round 3 – Pick 071 = Muhamad Wilkerson DE Temple
Round 4 – Pick 109 = Marcus Cannon OG TCU
Round 5 – Pick 140 = Colin McCarthy MLB Miami (Fla.)
Round 6 – Pick 171 = Brian Lainhart FS Kent State
Round 7 – Pick 210 = Terrell McClain, DT/DE South Florida
Prince is 6th
Although I know where you’re coming from with the first pick, you would have to trade up to get him according to the rules. Also, Wilkerson is 37 and can’t be picked at 71. The same with Colin McCarthy who is 120, thus, cannot be picked at 140.
You pick at your exact spot or anywhere below that (e.g. 9th or anywhere from 10 to 20 or so)
On a positive note, I like these picks.
Although I would rather have Wisniewski play G.
And I do believe that Sam Young could possibly start this season at RT. People were skeptical about Doug Free and people will be skeptical about Sam Young. I say start him.
two strikes, one more to go.
Give it a third try and see what happens. You have to pick per the rules though….
You pick at your exact spot or anywhere below that (e.g. 9th or anywhere from 10 to 20 or so)
"....the Cowboy way...." (Head Coach, Jason Garrett)
Ok, I'll stick to LURKING AROUND.........
Sorry for any confusion my picks may have caused……To the Mods, you can just delete my picks/posts so that nobody gets confused.
no prob, dude, you had some good stuff going there, no need to crash in.
"....the Cowboy way...." (Head Coach, Jason Garrett)
HOPEFULLY THIS IS BY THE RULES
Round 1 – Pick 009 = Von Miller | 6’3, 240 pounds | OLB | Texas A&M
Round 2 – Pick 040 = Stefen Wisniewski | 6’3, 302 pounds | C | Penn State
Round 3 – Pick 071 = Phil Taylor | 6’4, 355 pounds | DT | Baylor
Round 4 – Pick 109 = Ben Ijalana | 6’4, 320 pounds | OT/G | Villanova
Round 5 – Pick 140 = Rashad Carmichael | 5’11, 186 pounds | CB | Virginia Tech
Round 6 – Pick 171 = Brian Lainhart | 6’1, 206 pounds | FS | Kent State
Round 7 – Pick 210 = Jake Vermiglio | 6’5, 315 pounds | OT | N. Carolina St
by smashmouth9473 on Jan 22, 2011 1:04 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Yes.. Another one!
Pick 9 (1350) + Pick 71 (235) = Pick 7 (1500)
Pick 40 (500) + Pick 140 (36) = Pick 37 (530)
Round 1 – Pick 007 = Marcell Dareus | 6’3, 304 pounds | DT/DE | Alabama
Round 2 – Pick 037 = Muhammad Wilkerson | 6’5, 305 pounds | DT/DE | Temple
Round 4 – Pick 109 = Marcus Cannon | 6’5, 350 pounds | OT | TCU
Round 6 – Pick 171 = Brian Lainhart | 6’1, 206 pounds | FS | Kent State
Round 7 – Pick 210 = Jake Vermiglio | 6’5, 315 pounds | OT | N. Carolina St
Projected Starting D-Line
DE – Marcell Dareus
DT – Jay Ratliff
DE – Muhammad Wilkerson
Projected Starting O-Line
LT – Doug Free / Jake Vermiglio
LG – Kyle Kosier
C – Andre Gurode
RG – Montre Holland
RT – Marcus Cannon / Sam Young
Position Battle
AOA vs Brian Lainhart = Free Safety
I like most of your projection, but
think the Free Safety position still won’t be fixed if it is up to AOA or Lainhart.
Nice picks though.
"....the Cowboy way...." (Head Coach, Jason Garrett)
we don't know that
I say give them the opportunity.
I’m not too thrilled about the two young RTs, but there wasn’t anybody else that was better on the OL for this pick.

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