The Schematic Advantage Of Having A Ryan
I stood in the same place as pretty much everyone else, the line of thought of: he coached the average-to-bellow average Cleveland defense?
And that's a good way to start this post, as soon as he became the Defensive Coordinator on this team, I began a process of acquiring tape of games to see what his defense was all about... And wow, it's all about movement and about not showing what you really mean.
Two games stood out, the 1st reason is because they were great performances by the defense, the QBs couldn't find a comfort zone as they were always looking were the pressure would come from. And the 2nd because with the passing teams in our division (Eagles and Giants) and with the way in which our passing defense played last year, there's a big need for improvement in that area. The games were the one against the Saints in New Orleans and against the Patriots, both victories by the Browns.
So, what exactly did I chart? I went from the defensive alignment of the DLine and LBs, to the coverage of the safeties, to the unexpected blitzers, to the amount of rushers per passing play and the kind of gap responsibility.
So, let's get to it, the numbers from both games:
Defensive alignments:
When we talk about a defense that shifts so much between even, uneven and unexisting fronts, the first thing that you have to do is identify the DLineman and LBs, and I went with a very simple line of thought: if he has a hand down, he's a DLineman. Yeah, I know, I'm not saying something new, but when you see Rogers surrounded by nothing but LBs and a LB (usually Roth) puts his hand on the ground, being the only DLineman, you're seeing something complex and you just try to simplify.
The were many schemes and there were differences from snap to snap even when they kept the same personnel and scheme, we're talking about how they would use the 3-4 in the Parcells way (dancing elephants):
In this kind of play we see the DLineman stutter stepping as they make time for the play to develop and read what they have to do, Rob Ryan would call this play when his read was a run.
And in the next snap we would see something like this:
A one-gap attacking scheme in which as soon the QB takes the snap the DLineman attack their gaps with a sudden first step and the use of arm techniques like the arm-over or rip. Rob Ryan calls this play against the run and pass, and he can also add a twist, they may line up in one of those and prior to the snap motion into the other, with the movement of the heads of the center and QB as first direct results.
So, considering that, just because I'm saying that they deployed a 2-4 "X" amount of times, it doesn't mean that it's exactly the same scheme or personnel, that's how complicated Ryan's defense is. The Cowboys defenders will need to study. A lot.
New Orleans game:
3-4: 31 snaps.
1-4: 22 snaps.
2-4: 15 snaps.
0-4: 4 snaps.
3-2: 3 snaps.
2-3: 2 snaps.
3-3: 2 snaps.
New England game:
2-4: 29 snaps.
1-4: 10 snaps.
3-3: 6 snaps.
0-4: 6 snaps.
3-4: 4 snaps.
4-2: 1 snap.
The first thing that immediately jumps out at you is the amount of "small" fronts that Ryan called. The 2nd should be the differences between both games.
1. Evidently, Ryan doesn't believe in the size theory, there were times in which he rushed 2 LBs against the 5-man pocket and forced bad throws. He believes in quickness and crowding the short and intermediate routes.
2. He adapts. The Patriots sport a fundamentally sound OLine, so he had to beat them with preparation and a lot of movement and that called for more light sets. The Saints have a more physical unit and he had to go with a heavy and light combination to keep them off balance.
Safety coverage:
This is another interesting area, because Ryan likes to play with his safeties roles. They had interchangeable roles and again I had to simplify because Ryan's work is too complex to follow and the camera angles weren't of much help. But make no mistake, a safety, in Ryan's opinion, is going to be in deep coverage and they need to run and change directions with ease (No Roy "Thong" Williamses).
So, from what I saw, I differentiated the types of plays in 2, deep 2 (be it in quarters or cover-2 or cover-6) and cover-3 with one safety moving closer to the line to take away the short to intermediate routes (it doesn't matter if his assignment is a TE or WR, that's why they have to be able to run).
New Orleans game:
Deep 2: 57 snaps.
Cover-3: 16 snaps.
New England game:
Deep 2: 36 snaps.
Cover-3: 14 snaps.
T. J. Ward is a player, that's easy to see, he can hit, wrap up and bring down in pretty much every attempt, he can run and turn, and has really solid instincts. Elam is worse in every aspect and IMHO is very comparable to Sensabaugh. And Mike Adams played a lot as a 3rd Safety in passing situations.
Based on scheme, there won't be much of a change from what we saw under Pasqualoni, Ryan likes to keep the play in front of his defenders and he makes a point of jumping routes and make plays on the ball, but only if there's contain behind them. Now, I wouldn't be surprised to see Campo remain, but with a leash.
Unannounced blitzers:
This is another area were Ryan likes to play with mirrors to hide the points of attack of rushers, but there's a common denominator: Ryan likes to rush from the inside with delayed rushes from the ILB, or Safeties and CBs stacked behind a DLineman, in one snap they may lineup in this formation and go out in coverage and in the next snap lineup again and rush the QB.
This kind of rush comes handy with all of the light schemes, some LBs can go out in short to intermediate coverage, while the others or DBs blitz the brains out of the OLineman and QB. But there's a thing that you do need, and it's DLineman that have a quick first step and force movement right after the snap in order to open gaps.
Ryan didn't have much of that and several of his blitzes were stonewalled by OLines that weren't moving, which forced Ryan to dial reserve his blitzes and to only bring them up as a change-up.
New Orleans game:
ILB: 22 snaps.
S: 9 snaps.
CB: 3 snaps.
New England game:
ILB: 15 snaps.
S: 6 snaps.
CB: 4 snaps.
Don't let those numbers fool you, in all of their light formations the expected rushers are the DLineman and OLBs, their bigger guys, I considered every time in which someone that wasn't supposed to rush attacked the LOS, for example, in 0-4 formations I saw how Ryan sent both OLBs in coverage, and both ILBs and a safety attacked, that's one ILB and S snap in my book.
Rushers:
Against a good passing attack do you want to bring quick pressure or a crowded backfield for the QB to pick apart? Ryan likes to play with both ideas, as is evident by what you have read above, using different schemes and a wide array of blitzes, but in the end how many guys are responsible of going after the QB's head? Let's go to the numbers:
New Orleans game:
2-man: 3 snaps.
3-man: 19 snaps.
4-man: 21 snaps.
5-man: 11 snaps.
6-man: 2 snaps.
7-man: 1 snap.
New England game:
2-man: 2 snaps.
3-man: 12 snaps.
4-man: 9 snaps.
5-man: 11 snaps.
6-man: 2 snaps.
7-man: 0 snaps.
If there's something that we can say about Ryan it's that he's consistent in being hard to predict, his high number of 3-man rushers was something that I was expecting to be lower, not the scheme that he ordered the most in both games.
For those wanting a DB with the 1st pick, now you have another reason to join on the pressure player bandwagon.
Gap responsibility:
As I wrote above, Rob Ryan comes from the Parcells tree and as such employs concepts of his defensive schemes, but he also adopted some of Belichick's concepts of mixed fronts and mixed all of them with his own ideas of interchangeable DLines. In one snap a player along the DLine may have a 2-gap responsibility while the other guys have 1-gap to take on, in the next snap they all can be in 2-gaps and in the next a full fledged 1-gap attacking scheme is on. It doesn't matter if the Defense is expecting a run or pass, it just adds to being hard to predict.
How can you tell if the DLineman are aligned in a 1-gap or 2-gap formation? Well, again I had to simplify, if I didn't see a DLineman stutter step a bit to see the play develop and he attacked the shoulder of an OLineman, that's a one-gap DLineman. A way to notice 2-gappers is that they play with their heads right in front of the head of the OLineman in front of them, that way the defender can see the play develop around his assignment and act accordingly (for example, pushing his assignment towards one of his assigned gaps). So, if more than half of the DLineman played 1-gap, that's one snap for the 1-gap scheme. The same happens for 2-gap snaps.
New Orleans game:
1-gap: 52 snaps.
2-gaps: 20 snaps.
New England game:
1-gap: 34 snaps.
2-gaps: 11 snaps.
In here you will find another example of how Rob Ryan isn't a definite believer of the size measurable. Their bigger player is Shaun Rogers and I was looking at the number of times in which he played with a 2-gap responsibility. The number is 0. Ahtyba Rubin is a big guy in his own right (6-2 and 330), he's the starting NT and he's the guy that Ryan looks up when he wants a 2-gapper in the middle, but he can also play as a 1-gapper because he has a strong and quick first step (there's a play in which he followed and tackled Woodhead like 10 yards away from the LOS).
Out of everything that I saw, there isn't ONE thing that makes me doubt what I knew all along, Rob Ryan is going to love the Rat in the Nose.
The other Ryan agrees.
Just for the fun of it, I went through the Jets vs Patriots game tape, to see how his brother's philosophy matched that of Rob against the same rival and his chart reads like this:
Defensive alignments:
4-2: 19 snaps.
3-4: 12 snaps.
3-3: 12 snaps.
2-2: 12 snaps.
2-4: 8 snaps.
3-2: 6 snaps.
3-1: 5 snaps.
2-5: 1 snap.
Safety coverage:
Deep 2: 38 snaps.
Cover-3: 33 snaps.
Unannounced blitzers:
ILB: 4 snaps.
S: 5 snaps.
CB: 8 snaps.
Rushers:
2-man: 1 snap.
3-man: 16 snaps.
4-man: 24 snaps.
5-man: 6 snaps.
Gap responsibility:
1-gap: 59 snaps.
2-gaps: 14 snaps.
The big thing, and it's easy to notice, is that Rex Ryan had better toys to play with, especially along the DLine and it shows, he played less with mirrors and believed that his DLineman would do a good job of bringing pressure from the middle and called for blitzers to come around the pocket.
The 2nd thing is that Rex Ryan is a bigger believer in the one-gap attacking scheme. He can use 2-gappers from time to time, but mostly on heavy packages and does a good job of keeping the same personnel, so he has several players that can play the run and bring pressure.
And I found that he would also love to have the Rat in the Nose. In this game I found impressive the way in which he used Shaun Ellis, he's a 5-technique DE for the most part, but in this game he lined him up everywhere, from the 0-technique (with his head right in front of the center's head) to the 5-technique (head in front of the OT). He's smaller than Ratliff.
Some random points:
- The focus in the draft should be as follows: There won't be a Free Agency. There's a lot that we don't know, we just know that there will be a draft, I'm saying this due to all the guys counting Cullen Jenkins as the solution for the pass rush woes. For all we know, a CBA is going to be signed, teams will have more cap room and the Packers would be complete idiots if they let him go. He won't be that expensive because he's a bit long in the tooth and he likes it up there. Don't think about Free Agency, try to do the best with the picks that you have and then do the best than you can do if there's a Free Agency.
- If a CBA is signed and there's a decent Free Agency, sign me up for the Gocong sweepstakes, this guy is a perfect fit in Ryan's system, he can run, rush the passer, has a nose for the ball and can cover some ground (for a 3-4 LB).
- I think that these players are perfect fits for what the Ryans used this past season: Ware, Ratliff, Spencer, Lee and Scandrick.
- Lesser fits: Bowen, Spears, James and Sensabaugh.
- Need to refine their techniques: Brent, Butler, Hatcher, Jenkins and Newman.
- Probably won't: Olshansky, B. Williams, Brooking and Ball.
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Awesome as always...
btw Chandus at Mocking the Draft they did a piece on Marcell Darius…apparently he’s interchangeable and dominated his match ups in Alabama’s bowl game…would you be interested in him at No. 9?
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I like Dareus
But as a 3-technique DT in a 4-man front. IMO, he doesn’t look like a 5-technique End. In order, the players that I think can become players in the position are: Fairley, Bowers (2A), Jordan (2B), Clayborn, Heyward, Watt, Bailey, etc.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Most of what I’ve seen from him has him playing with his head right at the inside shoulder of the RT or outside shoulder of the RG.
That’s why I think that he’s a better fit as a 3-technique DT in a 4-man front. He would be a good one in there.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
I only mention him
because he apparently played a bunch of positions on the line, fought through injury, and is a Saban guy…just like Garrett.
Just saying, I’m not like gaga for him but I could see him being the pick and am still trying to figure out if he would fit.
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He plays quite a bit of 5 techinique on running downs.
He did play a lot of 3 tech because Alabama spends about 55% of it’s plays in the nickle, but he lined up at all 4 DL spots this season in the nickle and played LDE and NT in the 3-4. I can not wait for the Combine because he will weigh in at a healthy 310lbs or so.
Very good piece.
Good research and I bet that tape was fun to watch to see what our defense might look like.
Needless to say I am still excited about the hiring of Rob Ryan. This guy is creative, has a great list of mentors and obviously impressed JG enough to get his approval. Hopefully Jerry can do a good job through the draft and/or FA to get this guy some additional toys alongside Ware and Ratliff.
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If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
Hats off to you, Sir.
This one is even better than your legendary 46 and the Cowboy package post.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 25, 2011 3:54 AM CST reply actions
Pass rushing DB's
Here’s a list compiled from Profootballfocus about the number of times a DB rushed the passer for each 3-4 team in 2010. I was saving this for a separate post, but it fits here perfectly:
Rank 1-6: NYJ 340; GB 178; BAL 169; WAS 153; DEN 150; ARI 147
7: Browns 145
Rank 8-14: NE 110; PIT 110; KC 103; BUF 93; MIA 92; SD 60; SF 58
15: Cowboys 50
Cowboys: CB’s Jenkins and Newman did not rush once. SS Sensabaugh rushed 9 times and FS Ball 7 times. Slot CB Scandrick rushed 25 times, and this is one reason Scandrick will fit a Ryan scheme perfectly.
Browns: CBs (Brown & Haden) rushed occasionally: 23 times. The strong safeties (Elam, Adams, Ventrone and others) rushed 71 times. The slot CB Wright rushed 22 times.
Jets: CBs (Cromartie & Revis) rushed 2 times all season. The safeties in total rushed 310 times. The slot corner 28 times.
If the name of the game is pressure, you’d better have some safeties who can bring it.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 25, 2011 4:39 AM CST reply actions
Great Work Chandus
I know that the safety blitzes that Rex was using certainly gave Brady happy feet. I would love to see Dallas mess with the QBs head the way Rex does at times. Rec.
I'm pulling for a new CBA quickly because...
I believe it will take every bit of time (OTA’s, training camp and preseason) for the defense to learn Ryan’s way. It might even take 2 years since Ryan’s first year in Cleveland stat wise doesn’t look as good.
But what do I know, I’m just a fan!
I think that it’s going to take him less time in Dallas, because he’s inheriting a much more talented team that needs a lot of coaching. Look at the perferct fits, you think that Ware and Spencer can be compared to Fujita and Roth? No way. And Rob plays with his inside DLineman lining them up in many different ways to gain favorable matchups and he hasn’t had a DLineman as good as Ratliff.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
He hasn't had a d-linemen as good as Ratliff?
Shaun Rogers was pretty good.
Was
For the past few years he’s been good in spurts.
He’s a Leonard Davis, a big guy that can gain leverage on his asignment in some plays, in others quickness and technique can beat him badly.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Me likey...
This is just straight up awesomeness wrapped in bacon, basted with butter, and dipped in gravy!
Great, thorough, why-I-love-this-site work…Highly Rec’d!
Sun Tzu
Your Art’s given us a most insightful glimpse into the mind and strategies of one of our generals.
Thanks for doing the class’ homework. A+ rec’d.
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
Incredible Post
It is really fun to wach how inventive his defenses get, I am jealous of all the tape you got to watch. Can’t agree more with your findings and your assesment that the ‘Boys will have to study. Seriously Rec’d post and reason why hriing Rob Ryan excited me.
Two small things: I think Bowen fits well in his system since he has that good first step and is an above average pass rushing big man. Yes, Ratliff is a dream player for Rob’s defense, but not because he is the perfect NT…he is the perfect DLinemen with incredible versatility for him. I expect to see Ratliff playing all over the line as NT and DE.
Again, great post
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
I think Bowen fits well in his system since he has that good first step and is an above average pass rushing big man.
This is MY thing when we talk about Bowen: what’s your definition of an above average pass rusher?
My definition is: someone that CAN rush the passer when the opposing OLineman, or double team, knows what the rusher likes to do and doesn’t make a mistake.
IMO, that definition doesn’t apply to anyone else on the team outside of Ware and Ratliff. Spears, Olshansky, Spencer, Bowen, Hatcher and Butler can only get to the QB if someone makes a mistake or isn’t expecting a certain move. That’s why I’m all in favor of adding another DLineman or pressure player.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Bowen
Graded out as a top 5 3-4 DE by PFF and that was while paying primarily on passing downs and (though few sacks) got a lot of pressure and hurries and hits on QBs. Sure Ware and Ratliff are star pass rushers, but Bowen is certainly a pressure player at a position/scheme that has few. I think Ryan will resign Bowen and Spears (the latter is clearly more of a run stopper than pass rusher) and like you wrote provide us with some very interesting schemes. Not saying he won’t draft another DLineman – in fact, senior bowl practice reports make me more interested in drafting C Jordan though i would still prefer to trade down from the #9 spot – but I can easily see Ryan excited with what each of them can bring (compared to any rookie in the draft). A DLine with Ratliff, Spears, Bowen, Brent, Lissemore gives Rob some good talent to start with.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
PFFs numbers are fun and so
But I wouldn’t take them as gospel, based on their numbers Miles Austin was the 3rd best receiver on our roster…
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Per Rob Ryan from OCC Post
It appears that Rob Ryan recently walked into the coaches office, and asked, “Who’s that Bowen guy”?
Then he said, “He’s unbelievable”.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
This is exactly what I was about to post
Bowen looks like he’s in line to become a major fixture in the new Rob Ryan defense.
Yet another quote taken out of context
Ryan meant he’s unbelievably BAD
j/k, KB
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
And frankly, as per Austin
He was our 3rd best WR in 2010…Dez and Witten both had better years (though I think PFF might have even graded Roy higher)
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Ok
I understand your point of view, but this is my reasoning of why Austin was the Cowboys best WR:
Runs routes as the X receiver? Check.
Runs routes as the Y receiver? Check.
Runs routes in the slot? Check.
Even with all of the QB and OLine problems finished the season with the best numbers? Check.
Was Dez a better receiver? Hey, I love Dez’s potential, but how can you really say that he was the better receiver? Limited playbook and had some problems with injuries.
And PFF went as far as to say that both Dez and Roy were better receivers than Austin… Oh, the horror…
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Oh, alright
Then, I guess that Roy Williams also made more plays…
Oh, ok, we will just agree to disagree.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
No need to agree to disagree.
I am not saying RW is better than Miles. I am not saying Miles is not the best WR on this team, but last year was a bad year for him. He is having to adjust for team game planning to stop him. I think he will lead all Dallas WRs in yards in 2011.
We still disagree
Even with all of the QB and OLine problems finished the season with the best numbers? Check.
Last year was a bad year for him? How? Even with all of the QB problems he surpassed the 1000 yards and had a really good number of TDs… This is like saying that Michael Irvin had a bad year in 1998 because he barely topped the 1000 yards and only had 1TD…
We’re talking about Football, there’s more to one position than the position by itself.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
No, no, no...
it’s ok with me if 2010 goes down as Austin’s “bad” year. All I see is pure upside to that. I’ll find a way to live with the shamefully deplorable “bad” year Miles had, no problem.
Plus, Chandus, BigD’s opinion that it was a “bad” year in hi opinion shows he simply expects and thinks highly of Austin. It’s all good.
Point After (rule change): You score, you kick. Debate welcomed.
Thanks for all the comments, his Defense is fun and I wanted to give it a long and hard look to see what it was all about, so far I’ve seen 5 full games (both against the Steelers and in Baltimore) and I’ve also seen some reasons to be less warm about his schemes, but with the differences in personel I’m guessing that he can use some things a different way.
IMO, his Defense in Dallas could look a lot more like the one of his brother in NY, than the one he had in Cleveland. That would be good.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
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Consummate post.
Sometimes, the only thing missing from a problem's solution is the right perspective.
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Excellent post! Rec'd
I really enjoyed your breakdown and analysis. Now my hopes are really starting to rise for 2011 (if our D is smart enough to learn this in one, probably shortened pre-season)
When in doubt, empty your magazine
Fantastic post. Didn't understand all of it, but enough to get your gist and
start feeling good about Ryan. Rec’d.
If I made mistakes translating from spanish to english, it would be great if you give me a heads up.
If it’s something about the schemes, nomenclature or something else, if I can’t help you, someone else surely will. That’s the reason behind blogs like this one.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
No, no, your translation is fine. I'm not a former football player, coach, etc.,
so I don’t know all of the terminology you used. But I got enough to know what you’re saying. No worries.
Translation?!
Hell, it reads better than many native English-speaker’s writings. Including and especially mine. Thought of it being a tanslation never entered my mind while reading your writings. And that’s with having an idea after reading your first of your location and what that might imply. Frankly, the translation’s the last thing you need to be concerned about, Chandus.
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
+1000
Excellently written and very readable. Like tan, I never suspected English was not your first language, because your writing is so good.
Having said that, the content was even greater, and is another factor in making me think about pouring a glass of Kool Aid.
If at first you don't succeed - blame someone else.
Great Post
I would actually like to see Brandon Williams get more time at ILB. He did pretty well there in Washington
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
THIS
I am curious why Chandus says Williams will be out in RR’s scheme.
I’ve been tinkering with a fanpost on our LB situation and I couldn’t figure whether to advocate for Williams or Butler moving to ILB. I didn’t notice Williams playing ILB vs wash. What did you notice about him? My biggest concern is that he’s 6-3. That’s big for ILB. However, if he’s good, who cares?
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I believe that was Leon Williams, not Brandon Williams.
I don’t think much of Brandon, if Butler needs to work on his technique, Brandon is miles away.
The problem is that under Ryan the OLBs need to show that they can rush the passer, but it’s even more important that they can cover and play the run, because he doesn’t want to throw the whole kitchen at the QB he brings pressure in several different ways.
Brandon hasn’t shown that he can rush the QB with any kind of consistency, he’s dominated at the LOS and blocked out of plays against the run and he still looks like a College End when he’s asked to play in coverage.
The guy is a longshot.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
no I think it was Brandon Williams
Leon wasn’t active that game. At least he was not listed on the stat sheet:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=301219006
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
I can easily see rabblerousr
hectically rewriting his Fanpost Of The Week story that’s due tomorrow.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 25, 2011 11:57 AM CST reply actions
Says it all
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
Curious
Everybody talks the high draft choices and naturally the focus is predominantly there in such discussions. With what Chandus’ article’s about, how it relates to Ryan’s schemes, prior player pools, etc, I’m curious what some of you that are more in draft mode think about our late-round selections, rather than the 1-4 round stuff. Off-the-beaten path, role-player stuff and how it’d fit into our new DC’s possible gameplanning.
Any thoughts on 5-7 round picks that’d meet our needs and/or fit what we might see out of our new DC? Wouldn’t an Eric Hagg type player profile fit in there as a 6-7 pick or UDFA? That type of player, not specifically him, though I am keeping an eye on the guy and see a fit.
Any ideas tied to the D side for a late pick or UDFA?
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
wow
that was epic
damn Chandus you know your stuff bro
great great writeup
please write more bro
by Archie Barberio on Jan 25, 2011 6:23 PM CST reply actions
Good post!
I am not as excited as many on this hire, but I do like the idea of hiding your rushers and disguising things..the question is, why don’t all DC’s do this? With all the years/experience behind those guys, you’d think they’d all disguise more. Oh Well.
I am coming around to Ryan, for another reason besides this post, which is I looked up Cleveland’s schedule from last year. I mean, who pays attention to Cleveland? And despite their bad record and the D’s mediocre stats (my main concern), they actually played most teams pretty tough.
Anyone who looks up their scores will be impressed by that. And playing Balt./Pitts. twice each is like starting off 0-4.
Also, another reason for optimism is not so much that our D has superior talent to Cleveland’s…I doubt there’s that much difference really…but that the Dallas Offense has much more talent than Cleveland. Especially if they can score early, that should give the DC a chance to be more creative. I’d bet he’s looking forward more to working with Dallas’s offense than the ‘talent’ on D!
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Trick's to look beyond...
the stats, which you’ve done. Browns played good D under Ryan, everything considered. Not that I get to see a lot of them, but every once in a while I talk with a buddy that’s a big-time Browns fan and just going over things with him, I’m not overly concerned about Rob’s capabilities. I got a feeling we did ok at DC.
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Bang up job, Chandus. Rec'd
I was wondering, how did Ryan handle adjustments during the game? Was he able to compensate for an effective running game? Also, was he adding new twists later in the games? The Cowboys gave up way too many late drives.
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Do you think
Quinn or Von Miller could be a good fit (or at least a better fit than Spencer) in Ryans Defense?
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by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 26, 2011 5:27 PM CST reply actions
Don't think Chandus is into blowing his own horn, so I will help.
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Great writeup. They should hire you to write pieces for this web site. That was 100 times better than anything I’ve ever read here.
Gee, we could have told him that.
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Is our D really that much more ralented than Cleveland's?
They got Haden, Sheldon Brown, Tj Ward, Eric Wright (was at least a first round pick), Gocong played well, Roth played well, Ahtya Rubin played ok I think (don’t think I spelled that right), and Shaun Rogers. We got DWare, Spencer (he undoubtedly has the talent), Rat, Jenkins, Newman (it;s debatable whether or not he’s past it and too slow), Sensi (PFF says he’s decent) and Lee who might not have the body for it. I would argue that we don’t have much, if at all more talent than the Browns. And btw imo draft position is not a complete measure of talent, so we may have more first round picks than them but what does that really mean?
no, it's not
but the offense is, and that should help any DC
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Jan 26, 2011 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
In the end, Haden was a rookie. He has talent, but he has a way to go.
You should ask Eagles fans what they thought of Brown in his last year up there. They allowed him to go when they had hope and no plan as his replacement for a reason.
Eric Wright was replaced by Haden AND Brown.
Roth and Fujita at best are equivalents to Spencer (they can cover some, play the run well and can do something as pass rushers).
Rogers is good in spurts, think of him as a Leonard Davis on Defense, big guy that can gain leverage and look good in some plays and average or bad in others.
Ward, Gocong and Rubin are players. Yeah.
Just by looking at the Cowboys best players on Defense, Ware and Ratliff, you can say that he’s going to have more talent to play with.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
That was a REALLY half-glass-empty way to look at all those players. I’m just saying it’s debatable and not nearly the wash you make it out to be.
By now, I’ve seen 7 full games from the Browns (the 2 games of this post and both games against Pittsburgh, against Baltimore and against the Jets), deep looks at every single defensive snap, I’m giving you an informed opinion. I saw their best and made this post with what I saw, but I’ve also seen their bad performances and why we should be less warm about Rob Ryan’s schemes, but several players didn’t help Ryan and some of them are the ones that I mentioned above (poor pass rush, bad coverage, poor effort, etc.).
What have you seen that makes you think that I’m being half-glass-empty in my evaluation?
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
I base alot of what I think about players on PFF grades and they say quite a few of Cleveland’s defenders played well last year, with the only area they struggled on defense being pass coverage. I know PFF takes a lot of flack but who would know better who played well than an organisation that watches and grades ever player on every snap?
Now I'll have something to study this offseason.
Fantastic analysis, man. The Cowboy optimist in me has something to digest.
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great post
As long as they pressure the QB, it doesn’t matter what the setup is…3-4, 4-3, 2-5, et… Heat on the QB forces the offense to rely on timed routes in its passing game. Those can be taken advantage of. But, if you give a QB time to play pitch and catch in this league, you will die. IMO
I agree Wiley...
I am almost finished with my next installment of my “How they fit” series….
Here is a sneak peek:
As an Offensive Coordinator would you wat to see this Line up in a 3rd and Long Situation:
LB’s- WSOLB- Ware, MILB- Miller, SILB- Sean Lee, SSOLB- Anthony Spencer
D-Line- Bowen, Ratliff, Hatcher
I got goosebumps just thinking about the nightmare matchups….
formerly I draft the Cowboys!!!
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