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Where Did That Guy Come From? Dallas Cowboys Wide Receivers

Sorry Roy, upon further review- the trade for you still stinks. Only now, the aroma is stabbing at our noses as Steelers WR Mike Wallace prepares to play for the Super Bowl in Cowboys Stadium.

In this series, we will examine how exactly each player that wears the star on his helmet arrived at his destination.

Often times, we take snapshot judgments when evaluating a player's worth to the Dallas Cowboys. When they line up on Sundays in the fall, "will player X outperform player Y" always seems to be at center of the discussion and rightfully so. However, there is always more to a player than what you see on Sunday, as his journey could have taken on many different paths. Did the player come from out of nowhere to land on your television screen? Did the player arrive with fan fare and a high grade of pedigree? Were they outcasts from other teams or did Dallas break the bank to attain them?

I'll highlight one player from the group to start the post, and then cover all other players at the position(s). If they were drafted by the team, who else could have been here? If they were traded for, how did those trades play out over the years? The series kicks off with the wide receivers.

Name: Roy E. Williams

DOB: 12.20.81

College: University of Texas

Originally drafted with the 7th pick of the 2004 draft by the Detroit Lions. Signed to a six year, $54 million contract through 2014. Came to Dallas with Detroit's 2009 seventh round pick #210. That pick was combined with Dallas' pick #156 and traded to Atlanta (who picked DT Vance Walker) for pick #143 CB DeAngelo Smith.

Dallas gave up a 1st (TE Brandon Pettigrew), 3rd (WR Derrick Williams) and a 6th (RB Aaron Brown) round pick in the 2009 draft. People nonchalantly say that this was the worse trade Jerry Jones has or ever will make, but when looking at the players Detroit selected it doesn't look too bad. However, we dive deep here at BTB and know that Detroit doesn't always make the right decision.

No player worth noting was picked after the sixth rounder given up before Dallas' next turn, so let's eliminate that from the equation. With the pick sent to Atlanta, Dallas could have drafted CB Captain Munnerlyn, not a big loss but worth mentioning.

Much more after the jump...

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Would you rather have Roy Williams or one of the following? WR Brandon Tate :: WR Mike Wallace :: WR Ramses Barden :: CB Lardarius Webb :: TE Jared Cook

Roy makes the top five, but not at the top. The kicker? These are all players selected after the 3rd round pick we gave up for Williams.

OK, how about this list? S Louis Delmas :: S Patrick Chung :: LB James Laurinaitis :: LB Rey Maulauga :: S Jairius Byrd :: DT Ron Brace :: C Max Unger :: WR Mohamed Massaquoi :: RB LeSean McCoy :: OT Phil Loadholt :: G Andy Levitre :: OT Sebastian Vollmer (Pro Bowl)

Angry yet? Well, these were all 2nd round picks that Dallas could have probably traded back from #20 to pick up a couple of these guys. Still not pissed off? 

WR Percy Harvin, OT Michael Oher, DT Peria Jerry, LB Clay Matthews, WR Hakeem Nicks, WR Kenny Britt, RB Chris Wells, DT Ziggy Hood

These were some of the remaining first round picks selected after Detroit picked at #20. That's right folks, if Dallas never makes that trade, we could have had Clay Matthews AND Lardarius Webb, or Hakeem Nicks AND Brandon Tate or Andy Levitre, Sebastian Vollmer AND Mike Wallace, or any other combination you prefer. Plus oodles of cap space. Not only did the Cowboys give up way too much in the trade, they did it with phenomenal talent available at positions of need.

To pour some salt on the wounds, Dallas also traded the 51st pick in that draft to Buffalo for the 75th and 110th pick, Robert Brewster and Victor Butler respectively. G Andy Levitre made the all-rookie team that season and was picked with our 51st pick. Also available  were LeSean McCoy, CB Sean Smith, Phil Loadholt, OT Sebastian Vollmer. Who would you rather have, Vollmer or Brewster and Victor Butler?

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Here's a look at the remaining eight wide receivers currently employed by the Dallas Cowboys.

Player NamePositionDOBCollegePath to the Cowboys
Austin, Miles WR 6.30.84 Monmouth Signed as an undrafted free agent after conclusion of the 2006 draft. Has been a Cowboy his entire career. Spent the first three seasons as the club's kick returner, including a scintillating KOR TD against Seattle in the 2006 season, the franchise's first ever. Worked his way up the depth chart, and was expected to contribute more in 2008 but was derailed by injuries.

Began 2009 season as the third receiver, but took advantage of Roy Williams injury and gained 250 yards and two scores in his first start against Kansas City.

Signed a six-year extension worth $57 million total set to run through 2016 season.

Bryant, Dez WR 11.4.88 Oklahoma State Drafted with the 24th pick of the 2010 draft out of Oklahoma State. Dallas traded picks #27(CB Devin McCourty) and #90(WR Taylor Price)to New England to select Bryant. Was deemed ineligble by the NCAA after a month of the 2009 season for lying about having a legal dinner with Deion Sanders.

Players available immediately after #24: QB Tim Tebow, DT Jared Odrick, CB Kyle Wilson, DE Jerry Hughes, CB Patrick Robinson, OT Roger Saffold, S Nate Allen, S TJ Ward, WR Arrelious Benn, DE Koa Misi, DT Torell Troup, OLB Sergio Kindlle, DT Lamarr Houston, DT Linval Joseph, S Taylor Mays, CB Javier Arenas.

Players available after #90 pick: LB Navorro Bowman, TE Tony Moeaki, TE Jimmy Graham, CB Brandon Ghee, WR Mardy Gilyard, WR Mike Williams, OT Bruce Campbell, WR Jacoby Ford.

Signed to original rookie contract through 2014 season.

Holley, Jesse WR 1.8.84 North Carolina Jesse Holley was originally signed as an undrafted free agent in 2007 by the Cincinatti Bengals. Out of football, Holley competed on and won Michael Irvin's reality show 4th and Long and won an invite to Cowboys training camp before the 2009 season. He bounced around the practice squad and was called up to the 53 man roster in October 2010.
Hurd, Sam WR 4.24.85 Northern Illinois Signed as an undrafted rookie free agent following the 2006 draft by the Cowboys. Caught his first NFL pass from Tony Romo (Romo's first career completion) in 2006 season. Specials team ace but has never threatened major snaps at the receiver position except for injury sub.

Free agent entering 2010 off-season.

Johnson, Manuel WR 10.14.86 Oklahoma Originally drafted by the Cowboys in the 7th round of the 2009 draft with the 229th pick.

Moise Fokou linebacker from the Eagles was drafted with the next selection.

Moturi, Jeff WR 4.4.86 U-T-E-P Signed to a futures contract after 2010 season, spent last week of season on Dallas' practice squad after being released from Chicago and Indianapolis.
Ogletree, Kevin WR 8.5.87 Virginia Signed as an undrafted free agent out of University of Virginia following the 2009 NFL Draft. Spent his entire rookie season as active on the 53 man roster.

Ogletree is signed for the 2011 season for $480K and will be a restricted free agent for the 2012 season.

Williams, Teddy WR 7.3.88 Texas-San Antonio Signed as an undrafted rookie free agent CB by the Cowboys following the 2010 draft. Williams was a track star and hadn't previously played professional football. Cowboys converted him to WR after his scout team performance in December 2010 and was called up the 53 man roster as an injury replacement for Kevin Ogletree.

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Maybe we can have him bulk up and play RT

So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?

by NICK L on Jan 25, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Cut Williams and use the $ for a RT????

While I agree that Williams has not lived up to expectations based on his contract, cutting him hardly seems prudent. More importantly, cutting him would NOT free up any money to sign a RT, or anyone else for that matter. The reality of the situation is that IF Williams plays next year as a Cowboy, he will count for 9.4 million against the cap; IF they cut Williams, he will count for almost 13 million against the cap. So, the question is: is Williams that bad that you would let him cost 3.6 million more not to play than to play? It seems to me that it would be wiser to lower the cap hit by letting him stay as a 3rd receiver (despite being ridiculously overpaid for that role.)

by oznog22 on Jan 25, 2011 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Or ...

Get him to take a pay cut.

by jazzbo251 on Jan 25, 2011 7:14 PM CST up reply actions  

He wants to be a Cowboy but I doubt he would take a pay cut.

Then again he may fool us all.IMHO keeping him for 9 is better than cutting him and losing 13.9 million is a lot to pay a third WR,but it is our best option.

Cowboys For Life!!!! Win,Lose,or Lose Horribly!!!

by NVCowboy4Life on Jan 26, 2011 12:03 AM CST up reply actions  

OOPS losing 13 mil,not 13.9.

Cowboys For Life!!!! Win,Lose,or Lose Horribly!!!

by NVCowboy4Life on Jan 26, 2011 12:04 AM CST up reply actions  

How?

Why would he accept a pay cut when he knows it will cost them more to release him? JJ has no leverage to force a pay cut.

by oznog22 on Jan 26, 2011 10:22 PM CST up reply actions  

3rd WR

The other issue is: who will be the 3rd wideout? I haven’t seen enough of Ogletree or Hurd to be confident that either could be a legitimate threat as a slot receiver. Perhaps Williams would be a better fit as the 3rd WR.

by oznog22 on Jan 26, 2011 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

its not RW fault Jerry made the deal

even Al Davis laughed when Jerry made the deal. i remember Jerry was under some pressure to deliver that big time reciever to go with TO & be that wow factor (which later turned out to be just Felix bc he didn’t land the FA targeted) so the Lions took the Ranch when Jerry made the deal.
 RW is going to be at best the 3rd best WR on the roster next season but the real problem is at OL/DL. until this OL can slightly pass block with some better athletes (like Free) that can also get on some blocks at the next level then it won’t matter who we have at QB, WR, RB, TE, ETC.

Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth! Garrett & Ryan working as a team should create a physical environment at Valley Ranch that shows up on gameday.

by DCNation73 on Jan 25, 2011 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

those are good points......

plus, if you cut RW, you will still have to get another WR which will end up costing more money that you could be spending on much bigger needs. From strictly a financial viewpoint, 13 million to cut him or restructure his deal and make it more team friendly-do the math-it’s quite easy.

by texstar on Jan 26, 2011 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Austin was born in 1975?

I think he was born 06/30/84.

Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 25, 2011 12:08 PM CST reply actions  

wow- something happened in the translation.. fixing now

thanks amigo

Sometimes, the only thing missing from a problem's solution is the right perspective.

The Poster formerly known as KDP

by KD Drummond on Jan 25, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, come on

This would have been a good piece for March or May, now you’re just throwing a bunch of salt on a still open wound…

Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!

by Chandus on Jan 25, 2011 12:11 PM CST reply actions  

LOL- it didn't start out that way

I’m finished the series on the offensive side of the ball, the remaining entries aren’t nearly as depressing.

Sometimes, the only thing missing from a problem's solution is the right perspective.

The Poster formerly known as KDP

by KD Drummond on Jan 25, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I was gonna say

You must have picked the most stinging, tormenting, gross representation of the Cowboy’s recent failures to lead off. As much as I hated reading the Roy analysis, brilliant work KD. It makes an eloquent point about football savvy as opposed to landing a big name.

If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.

by White Wolf on Jan 25, 2011 7:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Delmas would of been awesome.

Mathews on the other side of Ware = 85’ Bears. haha

With the 9th pick in the NFL Draft the Cowboys select...?

by Jeterian 2 on Jan 25, 2011 12:24 PM CST reply actions  

so you are saying this...

If Dallas doesn’t get RW….Dallas could have OT Micheal Oher, and WR Brandon Tate plus still had a 6th rounder? Ouch…..
 and that instead of Dez Bryant , the Dezinator, the Next Micheal Irvin, Dallas could have CB Devin McCourtney and OT Bruce Campbell? well that is a wash in my opinion…. Give me Dez , or give me death! make me a Steelers fan!

formerly I draft the Cowboys!!!
Yes...I am Ironman....seriously my last name is ironman in German

Knowledge and Skill overcome superstition and Luck-Dawn Patrol

by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 25, 2011 12:24 PM CST reply actions  

the fallout from filling needs in previous drafts

is a hard thing to project to the future drafts, you know. I started down that road, but there were too many variables to make it worth putting into the piece.

But yeah, the player combinations over the two drafts are mind boggling.

Sometimes, the only thing missing from a problem's solution is the right perspective.

The Poster formerly known as KDP

by KD Drummond on Jan 25, 2011 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Mind boggling to say the least. . . . .

Looking at that list, it really makes me cringe.

by RE1D on Jan 31, 2011 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

The RW trade was the worse in Cowboy history IMO.

If it had been almost any other NFL team besides the Lions, we might be seeing them in the SB this year. The Lions are about as bad as the Cowboys at drafting.

Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 25, 2011 12:25 PM CST reply actions  

don't forget

the guy was only about 10 games from UFA, and we got no production from him in his first year. Of course Jerry backs up the money truck to extend him, probably givng him more than he would have got as a FA.

Jerry not always clever with leverage.

by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 25, 2011 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, that makes the trade even more stupid.

I go to auctions all the time and see guys bidding against themself a lot. They’re the only one bidding and the auctioneer keeps rolling them until the idiot quits. I think Jerry was one of those guys.

Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 25, 2011 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I HAD forgotten. That is astounding. A 1st and a 3rd for the right to negotiate with a 2nd tier WR.
I know it’s not his fault that Jerry gave him all that money, but it is hard to judge his contributions using any other measuring stick.

by Crowboy on Jan 25, 2011 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Hindsight is always 20/20

Roy put up more TD’s than Brandon Pettigrew, who the Lions took with our first overall pick. I mean, i’m sure they wish they picked some of those guys you just listed to. Detroit picked Deandre Levy (LB) and Derrick Williams (WR) with their 3rds, again, before all those guys came off the board.

You aint been around in awhile, maybe you haven't heard........I don't shine shoes no more

by markdamack on Jan 25, 2011 12:27 PM CST reply actions  

Indeed

I’m not big on saying, we drafted player X and could’ve drafted player Y because of that exact reason, hindsight is 20/20. But when you’re dealing with giving away the opportunity to pick players that can help your team, for a player that hasn’t contributed much, it kind of has to be brought to the light.

Sometimes, the only thing missing from a problem's solution is the right perspective.

The Poster formerly known as KDP

by KD Drummond on Jan 25, 2011 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol, and let me point out still

That I am in 100 percent agreement with you, there are several of those guys I would much rather have had then ol Roy Willy. However, as you stated, i’m not big either on saying (after the draft) that we could’ve gotten player X instead of player Y

You aint been around in awhile, maybe you haven't heard........I don't shine shoes no more

by markdamack on Jan 25, 2011 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I like to look at it like this

If im going to judge how we did talent wise in the draft, is to look at where we drafted, what we drafted at that spot, and who at that position was taken afterwards.

Like, we took Robert Brewster with our first pick in that draft…

After that, no tackle that was taken off the board has become a primary starter.

Next we took Stephen McGee

After that, No qb aside from Null in St. Louis and Painter in Indy has even attempted a pass in the league.

Then we took Victor Butler, who in my opinion has a lot of promise

After that pick, Aside from Kevin Ellison in SD and McCrath in Ten, none have made any contribution worth noting, and those 2 are hovering at about 50 career tacklesm and only Ellison has 1 career sack. They’ve had a little more extended playing time than Butler, who only has 13 tackles…however Butler also has 4 sacks in his limited time.

Now most of the rest of that class is gone, and really it’s about the same story all the way, down. Even with the guys we cut. Nobody at the position, besides a player or two a team lucked up on, made an impact.

I know, I didnt put Buehler in there, but we all know that story.

You aint been around in awhile, maybe you haven't heard........I don't shine shoes no more

by markdamack on Jan 25, 2011 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

it kind of has to be brought to the light.

Not really. It’s bad analysis.

Yes, Dallas could have had those guys. Dallas also could have had Eric Wood and Eben Britton, just like Detriot got Pettigrew and Derrick Williams.

And all those 3rd round picks were available when Dallas took Jason Williams at the top of the third.

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jan 25, 2011 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Quoting out of context

No offense, FiTT, but I read KD’s comment that quote’s from a bit differently. More like saying the Past’s to be examined and learned from. That bringing the possibility, not the sure-firedness, of a potential pick to light is an aspect of looking at the Past in order to perhaps reduced the likelihood of making similar mistakes or choice that come to be viewed as mistakes.

I’m not big on saying, we drafted player X and could’ve drafted player Y because of that exact reason, hindsight is 20/20.

Plainly stated.

Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.

by tanstaafl on Jan 25, 2011 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, they could have ended up with Wood or Britton.

but the point was that they precluded themselves of the opportunity to draft any of the players that COULD have turned into the budding stars that were listed. Did you really need me to write out the caveat that there were other people available in the draft that they could’ve drafted and turned out poorly? There are obviously other draft candidates than who I listed.

And you’re right again, the five third round picks of the 20+ people I listed were available when we picked Williams. However this post isn’t about Jason Williams, he’s a linebacker. You might have missed the heading that reads wide receivers. When I post about Jason Williams, included in there will be some of the players that could have been picked in lieu of him. Besides, that seems a tad nit picky don’t you think?

Sometimes, the only thing missing from a problem's solution is the right perspective.

The Poster formerly known as KDP

by KD Drummond on Jan 25, 2011 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol, hope i didn't spoil anything

with my above, long, reply

You aint been around in awhile, maybe you haven't heard........I don't shine shoes no more

by markdamack on Jan 25, 2011 2:22 PM CST up reply actions  

not at all amigo

Sometimes, the only thing missing from a problem's solution is the right perspective.

The Poster formerly known as KDP

by KD Drummond on Jan 25, 2011 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

IMO, it’s unnecessarily inflamatory.

Angry yet? Well, these were all 2nd round picks
To pour some salt on the wounds

in general I’m not a fan of trying to inflame the masses. people behave illogically and irrationally enough without further incitement.

To pour some salt gasoline on the wounds fire

seriously. don’t already have enough people on this board who are furious and angry about RW? we need to stir up more?

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jan 25, 2011 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL- good form

I can’t compete with that!

But in regards to the inflammatory comments, those are how I felt when I was pulling the info- and I’m not really one to worry about the emotional state of other grown men. I also didn’t use the inflammatory descriptions in the headline or the intro.

I didn’t get the edict that I have to only blog about things that give everybody warm and fuzzy feelings about the team.

Sometimes, the only thing missing from a problem's solution is the right perspective.

The Poster formerly known as KDP

by KD Drummond on Jan 25, 2011 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes!

It is the poster child for why this franchise is zero for 15 over the last decade and a half in terms of competing for a championship.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 25, 2011 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

You're KILLING me, KD!!

All those quality players we could have gotten instead of trading for RW11… excuse me while I vomit.

Greetings from the Humungus, the Ruler of the Wasteland, the Ayatollah of Rock and Roll-A. I laugh at your puny plans.

by Lord Humungus on Jan 25, 2011 12:28 PM CST reply actions  

LOL- how do you think it felt

when a little brainstorm for a topic kept spiraling into that huge list. I started off thinking, I wonder if there were a couple players we missed the opportunity for that have panned out. Never thought the list would grow past 20 premiere choices.

Sometimes, the only thing missing from a problem's solution is the right perspective.

The Poster formerly known as KDP

by KD Drummond on Jan 25, 2011 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Anyone remember Raf's argument

That we didn’t really overpay for #11 because Miles was such a steal, so if you add them together, it is a wash?

Still scratching my head at that one.

by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 25, 2011 12:41 PM CST reply actions  

I don't remember his exact words

But I always took that justification as kind of a look at the starters at WR as a whole. Not that we didn’t overpay for Roy, just that it wasn’t as damaging because the other starter was dirt cheap ( at least back then)

I ran into a group of men trying to take an old lady's purse and decided it was my duty to help out. She was a tough old broad, but in the end we got her purse.

by MilesAhead on Jan 25, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

it was pretty goofy

a bad deal is always a bad deal. The two events are not connected.

by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 25, 2011 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't disagree

The emergence of Austin was just dumb luck for Jerry Jones that took the edge off how bad a trade he pulled

I ran into a group of men trying to take an old lady's purse and decided it was my duty to help out. She was a tough old broad, but in the end we got her purse.

by MilesAhead on Jan 25, 2011 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

The Cowboys are one of the better teams at developing UDFA's.

Would Austin be Austin on another team? Perhaps not, but I still think he’d be a really good player somewhere. He had the tools all along. Ironically, it was Ray Sherman who saw what Austin could be. You also have to give some love to our scouting department on that one. Romo would be Romo no matter where he played. Perhaps Sean Payton had a major role in bringing him in, but Romo’s moxie kept him here long enough to rebuild his mechanics, and eventually surpass all comers at QB.

I guess my point is that the Cowboys have had some successes that would seem to balance the scales somewhat. And don’t forget, we have drafted two superstars in the last several years. DeMarcus Ware, and Dez Bryant. How many teams have drafted two stars of their caliber in that time? A few, but most teams haven’t.

IMO, the Cowboys real failure this decade has been letting the offensive line deteriorate as far as it has. They appear to be on that path in the defensive secondary, as well. The successes I have mentioned don’t forgive the stupidity of the RW deal. You win a few, you lose a few. But stupidity on the scale of the RW deal has to be avoided. As this article demonstrates, one bad move can really drag you down for years to come.

If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.

by White Wolf on Jan 25, 2011 8:18 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

+1

The O Line deterioration was comparable to that after our Super Bowl runs in the 90s (if my memory serves me correctly).
I am cautiously optimistic that we can improve on our Line play on both sides of the ball. Hopefully then, we will be competitive (if not dominant?) again.

by RE1D on Jan 31, 2011 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

ugh

I wanted Patrick Chung and Mike Wallace so bad
sad thing is, we could of got both of them
disgusting
I hate Roy Williams

by Archie Barberio on Jan 25, 2011 12:44 PM CST reply actions  

I wanted Tom Brady in 2000. Instead we picked Mario Edwards 20 picks earlier. I knew he’d be a HOFer!

by Jordan Sams on Jan 25, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll never forgive the Cowboys for not drafting Joe Montana

Roger Staubach was retiring and we drafted Robert Shaw, Aaron Mitchell, and Doug Cosbie ahead of Montana. Of course, the 49er’s drafted James Owens ahead of Johnny Joe Idaho.

If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.

by White Wolf on Jan 25, 2011 8:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Sweet jezzus...

That’s some serious 20/20 hindsight, WW. The guy was 82nd pick. You don’t think there aren’t 27 other teams and fans of theirs that haven’t had that look-back thought dozens of times over the years?

How’d you feel if the pick was resultant from Dallas trading up to get Dorsett 2 years prior?

Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.

by tanstaafl on Jan 25, 2011 11:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Guess I need to work on those punch lines.

If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.

by White Wolf on Jan 26, 2011 5:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Nope, I need to work on my sense of humor.

Jumped without laughing first. My apologies.
Need to fix that ha-ha thing.

Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.

by tanstaafl on Jan 26, 2011 8:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Just for the record

Johnny Joe Idaho was the nickname Don Meridith gave to Joe Montana on Monday Night Football when he didn’t think Joe Montana was cool enough for the level of his play.

If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.

by White Wolf on Jan 26, 2011 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Recollected that. Meredith's are gems.

Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.

by tanstaafl on Jan 26, 2011 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Funny how I can remember that

but I can’t remember what I with my marbles.

If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.

by White Wolf on Jan 26, 2011 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

god

why write this article
makes me so pissed off right now
I hate hate hate Roy Williams
go strip on a pole and crossdress you big goofy doofy sloppy WR
ughhhhhhhh

thank god for Dez Bryant and Miles Austin, Roy you suck so bad
its not funny
keep smiling man after you fudge up, I hope somebody on this team smacks the goofy out of you
piece of garbage

what a disgrace
look at those names, we could of had 2 maybe 3 or 4 of those guys
but no we got Roy Boy Williams, lets run another sloppy route or fudge up and smile about it because its soooooooooo funny

sorry but I am sick of #11

by Archie Barberio on Jan 25, 2011 12:50 PM CST reply actions  

Looking Backwards

It is what it IS. No do overs happen. Picking winners is EZ through a rear view mirror.

You can’t un-throw a ball, you can’t un-say a word, and you can’t un-do old picks & trades.

I instead will look ahead, to a new season, a fresh start, and with the highest of hopes.

Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.

by 1Bullseye on Jan 25, 2011 1:46 PM CST reply actions  

Precisely. No do-overs.

Sure’s hell don’t want any of us to get our hands on a time-machine. Not with this kind of thinking involved. With you on sticking to the one we’ve got taking us forward.

Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.

by tanstaafl on Jan 25, 2011 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

It was a bad deal, no question...

..but to use

S Louis Delmas :: S Patrick Chung :: LB James Laurinaitis :: LB Rey Maulauga :: S Jairius Byrd :: DT Ron Brace :: C Max Unger :: WR Mohamed Massaquoi :: RB LeSean McCoy :: G Andy Levitre :: OT Sebastian Vollmer (Pro Bowl)

as examples to substantiate the veracity of your post is misleading because many of these players were not valued (at the time) of a #20 pick and weren’t around at #40.

Not sure what this post does except reiterate what we already know.

by CaliFanInTx on Jan 25, 2011 2:55 PM CST reply actions  

I didn't indicate that they were good choices at #20

the post stated that if we still had the #20 pick, they were in the trade down range. Was that not the case?

Sometimes, the only thing missing from a problem's solution is the right perspective.

The Poster formerly known as KDP

by KD Drummond on Jan 25, 2011 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

OMG

This article proves once and for all that Jerry is retarded; maybe he is secretly on the Steeler’s payroll. If this were the Cold War, Jerry would be summarily lined up against a wall and shot.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 25, 2011 4:24 PM CST reply actions  

I don't necessarily agree

There is something about JJ’s conviction and enthusiasm, that while sometimes misguided, isn’t all bad.

I can’t help thinking that before the RW trade everyone, I mean everyone, knew that the Cowboys were weak at WR. There was TO, and there was nothing else. But Jerry wasn’t drafting WRs, and fans were furious. Every mock draft had the Cowboys taking a WR every year because it was seen as a weakness.

Now look at the roster. Austin, Bryant, Williams, Hurd, Ogletree. That’s pretty decent. That’s got some depth. Now, we can argue how talented Williams is, but he’s certainly a decent #3. An argument can be made that too much money is loaded into this position, and we can argue that we did not get good value for Williams, that’s true and KD’s article points out the importance of those things, but JJ saw a problem and he corrected it. I wish he would have done it differently, but JJ is never going to be Scott Pioli.

I guess my point is that I appreciate that when the fans and community point out an area of weakness on the team, JJ goes balls out to fix it. Perhaps he’ll hear our cries for both offensive and defensive line depth, and talented safeties.

(Kind of a half glass full post).

by jazzbo251 on Jan 25, 2011 7:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Jerry can be proven to be...

a lot of things, but mentally retarded isn’t one of them. Sheesh.
Gimme that f’kin’ mirror.
j/k Iowa, j/k

Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.

by tanstaafl on Jan 26, 2011 12:07 AM CST up reply actions  

JJ is not a smart football guru, is that news?

Ask anyone around the league. He is good a business man but when it comes to evaluating talent and wheeling and dealing for talent, to put it plainly, he sucks. His desparation kills this team. He trades 2 first rounders for a WR after Michael. Now he does it again, putting this team more in a hole when it was so close for a WR that cannot catch, can only run two routes and pays him a salary 100 times more than he’s worth. Again, how old is JJ? Give the reigns to your son JJ, you have proven your unworthiness. I’m holding my breath for this draft. I’m not overly excited, even having the 9th pick. JJ will find a way to screw it up unless redhead pushes hard enough.

by torchindefenses on Jan 25, 2011 11:02 PM CST reply actions  

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