Back To Basics:Pet Cat Ahmad Black Edition
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Ahmad Black is one of my favorite players in the upcoming NFL Draft. I did write about Black in my first pet cat post of the draft a few months back. I love Black for this team for multiple reasons, but one that stands out is that he is a leader. I cannot stress the importance of finding real leaders in this draft and free agency. Gerald Sensabaugh is not a leader and neither is Alan Ball. Well, Urban Meyer coached a leader at Florida, and Meyer leaned on Black to be the voice of the defense and secondary. On and off the field Black is a character, he has a great personality. Ahmad Black is a great young man and his intangibles are noticeable on and off the field.
I keep hearing about size, it seems to be a trait that people around the internet seem to bash players for. Well let me tell you, size is not everything and you should not overlook a player for his size from the get go. Black weighed in this week at the Senior Bowl at 5’8 and 183 pounds. Yes, he is a smaller guy, but he admitted this week that he is putting weight on in the training room, so expect him to be up to 190-195, as that is what Black’s goal appears to be. Now this kid is a playmaker, he is all over the field. He is so quick and fast that it really makes up for his lack of size. The crazy thing is he is durable, having never missed a game in the hardest conference in the nation, the SEC.
His whole college career Black played against the best competition in the SEC, and never missed a game. A player of his size plays like a player that is taller and heavier. Black is like this little bulldog, he never backs down and always brings his A game on game day. I had the great pleasure of watching Ahmad Black play football in 2009 and in 2010. His play in the championship game versus Oklahoma was one of the best games of his career. Really, I am asking you guys to look past this kid's size for a minute and read the rest of this post, because this kid has a high strung motor and makes so many plays in the secondary.
Let's take a look at the scouting report of Ahmad Black. He came back to school after his junior season to win another national championship, because as he said, the SEC Championship game loss to Alabama was very embarrassing. That right there shows why this kid is so dedicated to the game of football, he has that passion I think we need in a Cowboys uniform back in the secondary.
Black has the instincts that are needed to play safety. He is able to look back at the quarterback’s eyes and has good route running skills and anticipation. Has the agility and good speed also needed to achieve at safety. Can play cornerback and safety, so he is versatile. That is a trait that the scouts for the Dallas Cowboys look for right now and in recent drafts. In the past few recent drafts we have scouted versatile corners, and just last year we selected Akwasi Owusu Ansah and part of that selection was his versatility to play safety and cornerback. Black is also a good open field tackler and has the vision to read and react, making quick decisions which allow him to use his speed as an advantage.
He has rare man coverage skills for a safety because of his quick feet, balance, agility, speed, and that he was a cornerback in high school. Can be a match up problem one on one because of his size. He makes up for this because of his competitive fire and his good coverage skills.
Has a great back pedal, as he stays smooth and low into his back pedal. Has the fluid hips all good safeties need to succeed. His quick feet allow him to make sharp cuts and breaks. Very alert defender with good recognition when playing zone coverage. Known to read the eyes of the quarterback, and makes good breaks on the football because of it.
Has the straight line speed good safeties need. Has the late burst to close, especially when coming downhill. At times can be too aggressive, but again we need aggressive players here in Dallas. Tries to focus on timing his jump to make the interception, to make up for his lack of height. Has good timing and the leaping ability to make those plays. Has excellent hand-eye coordination to make a deflection or intercept the football.
Shows his physicality and toughness when taking on blocks. Squirts through blocks and finds ways to make a play. Is willing to come down into the box and be physical. Is a willing tackler that will deliver a pop, and is a great tackler in the open field. For his size really delivers some hard hits. Wraps up and makes the sure tackle on the opposing ball carrier. Is not afraid of bigger players and does not shy away from contact.
In his senior season, which was a tough one for Florida, Black stood out. His leadership and consistency stood out and Black was one of Florida’s best players. This is a kid who played against some great talents in the SEC. Georgia, LSU, Auburn, Ole Miss, and Alabama are all very talented teams. Black also played his best in his bowl games, coming up with big plays.
Black was very productive during his career at Florida. He was elected team captain in 2010. For his career at Florida he amassed 227 tackles and 13 interceptions 2 sacks and 2 forced fumbles. What really stands out on paper is the amount of tackles he had for the 2010 season, 109. 109 tackles in one season for a "small" guy is amazing.
I am telling you guys, look past the being small thing. Earl Thomas, was he too small? Earl Thomas had a great year and was a impact player for the Seahawks secondary.
Because you know what? I see a lot of Earl Thomas in Ahmad Black, very similar in size and their ability to play cornerback and safety. Currently Earl Thomas weighs in at 5’10 and 202 pounds, and I remember a lot of Cowboys fans wanting us to draft Earl Thomas, I loved Earl Thomas myself and wanted us to draft him. So to think Ahmad Black, who could be 5’9 200 pounds by the season, is there that much of a difference in the two?
Chia’s NFL Comparison: Earl Thomas
He is a versatile player that can line up at either safety position. He can play cornerback and could really succeed there because of his coverage ability. I don’t know, but the kid just makes plays. When you watch him on tape he is flying all over the field. He has the ball hawking capability, but at the same time has the power to deliver the pop on a running back or receiver. I think Black is a 2nd round pick, and at 40th overall when we select that could be a real good investment to make. You can line him up back at safety, either FS or SS. You could throw him in the slot, or use him on the outside as a cornerback. He is just so versatile, and the Cowboys do love their versatile players. I really believe the Cowboys will take a long hard look on draft day because he fits their profile.
Thanks for all the positive comments and I appreciate the rec's guys. Check out the footage below of Ahmad Black in action. Special thanks to the makers of those video's, you can check out their youtube channel from the link.
Ahmad Black Career Highlights (via GatorBaitIn08)
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Ahmad Black vs. South Florida (2010) (via DocHoIidaze)
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great qualifier-
he has a great personality
If miss congeniality is available in the third, I say take him. At 40? That’s crazy.
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
His size could help us grab him later in the draft. I'd spend a 3rd on him in a heartbeat
I suppose I’d have to see who else was available, but I wouldn’t mind Black one bit.
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by the red scare on Jan 28, 2011 11:55 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Love him
He will be drafted later than he should be because he is small…I just hope he is drafted by us. Whoever drafts him is getting a playmaker. We need guys who fly around on defense and make good things happen. I would love to have Black as a safety/CB. Let’s hope he’s there in early round 3.
His size is still worrisome to me. If he adds some pounds between now and the draft then I would be more open to him in the mid rounds, but you just aren’t going to last very long in the NFL at 183.
That being said, I’m sorta ok with his size in the sense that it will probably drop him to the 3rd-4th. There will be quite a few safety options in that range, which is good for us. Black, Deunta Williams, Jaiqawn Jarret can all be potential players for us in that range. I’m also seeing Rahim Moore drop on more people’s boards (CBS for instance has him rated 62nd in their player rankings that were just updated today, so who knows how far he slips, I still like him in the 2nd though). If we could get one of those 4 players and then let them compete with Akawsi for one of the safety spots I would be thrilled with that (provided that we sign someone like Huff or Weddle in FA as well).
Sorry Chia,but if it came down to Black-Moore-D Williams,Black would be the last I would take.
Moore in the 3rd would be a no brainer,D Williams late 3rd/early 4th. I don’t like small safeties.I get the fact that this kid has heart,a huge one.But B Jacobs type RBs twice a year,and he is our last line of defense,he won’t last.Safeties are also responsible for TEs,almost everybody is looking for the next ex-basketball playing TE.Once again his size is a liability.Don’t get me wrong,I like the kid,but I want our next safety to play for us for the next 6-8 yrs,not the next 2-3. If we take him and he turns into the player you envision,I will be the first to give you the props.Rec’d on the post,your getting better with each one and I truly enjoy your passion,it rivals mine,for “Americas Team”.
Cowboys For Life!!!! Win,Lose,or Lose Horribly!!!
lol
thanks man
na I hear ya
size is a factor, but just keep in mind everyone thought Earl Thomas was small
by Archie Barberio on Jan 29, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
I don’t like small safeties.
Really? You don’t like: Ed Reed (5’11"), Earl Thomas (5’10"), Polamalu (5’10"), Bob Sanders (5’8"), Jarius Byrd (5’10")?
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jan 29, 2011 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
good point
people dont realize how “small” Ed Reed and Polamalu are
by Archie Barberio on Jan 29, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
I had no idea how small they all were, but when I checked it completely made me change my outlook on Black. The dude is a stud and will do well in the NFL. Here’s to hoping we get one of the safeties in this draft. I’m actually really excited with most of them.
yeah
there are some nice prospects, no sure thing in the 1st, but after that there is a bunch and a run will start in the 2nd round
I just hope we dont miss out on one when the run for safety starts
by Archie Barberio on Jan 29, 2011 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
Like him Chia!
One question though Ihave one question for you… would you prefer and bulldog or The Sandman?
by UpstateNyBravesFan on Jan 29, 2011 8:16 AM CST reply actions
Wow my wife was distracting me and thats what I came up with… LoL I hope you know what I’m getting at.
by UpstateNyBravesFan on Jan 29, 2011 8:19 AM CST up reply actions
wow
thats tough man
idk
both have different qualities, but both are leaders
thats really tough man
I say Black because he reminds me of Earl Thomas
but Sandman is a beast tho
idk I cant choose
by Archie Barberio on Jan 29, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
Not that I know anything about either of them but I’d say Black.
Why?
bc the NFL loves big guys. Too much in fact. If you ever look at a list of the best players that were underdrafted they’re dsiproportionately small. I think the NFL systematically underrates small players. So if you’ve got a choice between Black and Sands in the 3rd round, you can be almost certain that you’re getting the better player in Black.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jan 29, 2011 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
its tough
I mean I lean toward Black because he played in the SEC and was a starter early on
he can play CB too
Sands I really like
its tough I cant choose right now
Ive been on Black for a while and I just really got into Sands this falls
by Archie Barberio on Jan 29, 2011 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
I would take Black
but I think Sands can be a really good player
by Archie Barberio on Jan 29, 2011 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
Size is an issue
Brent Celek 6’4 255lbs
Kevin Boss 6’6 253lbs
Chris Cooley 6’3 250lbs
Fred Davis 6’4 255lbs
Those are just the TE’s in the NFC East Black would have to cover and tackle. He gives up almost a full foot to Boss. Then when you through in some of the bigger WR’s in the league he will struggle against the bigger players. Speed and Intelligence can cover a lot of flaws but those are huge flaws to cover.
I’ll just say I haven’t see any evidence that there’s a connection between height/size and performance.
Plenty of excellent safeties who aren’t tall/big (e.g. Ed Reed (5’11"), Earl Thomas (5’10"), Polamalu (5’10"), Bob Sanders (5’8"), Jarius Byrd (5’10")).
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jan 29, 2011 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed.
Height is generally overrated. The fact that top safeties are only two inches taller than Black just proves how ridiculous it is to use height as a disqualifier. Plus, as everyone here knows, there is sooooo much more to covering and tackling than height. If there wasn’t than Patrick Watkins would have worked out a hell of a lot better than he did. At the end of the day Black is an impressive athlete and actually likes contact judging by what I have seen. As such, I have very few doubts about his ability to play at the next level.
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by Creasy729 on Jan 29, 2011 1:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
yup
if height was a concrete measure, than Watkins would be a superstar
I would much rather have a “smaller” safety who has fluid hips than a “big or normal” sized safety that isnt fluid and stiff
Black is going to be a good football player
looks like a Patriots type of player, since Bellicheck loves Florida Gators and rightfully so
by Archie Barberio on Jan 29, 2011 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
lol idk
I do know he is from Canada, was a firefighter and is 26
by Archie Barberio on Jan 30, 2011 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
Did Bob Sanders ever play a full 16 game season?
2" is a big difference. Also Black is nowhere near the player that Reed and Polamalu are. Jarius Byrd had a great rookie year, but was not even remotely as effective his second year.
Did Bob Sanders ever play a full 16 game season?
Nope, but he did play 15 games in 2007 … which would be the year he was Defensive Player of the Year.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jan 30, 2011 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
Over his career he has averaged 6.5 starts a season.
One great season does not negate the 5 seasons he started 6 or fewer games due to injury. 5 out 7 seasons with fewer than 6 games played.
BigDin,
I was just being a smart ass before. But in all seriousness your entire argument is bad science. By your logic I could say ‘big players are injury prone’ look at Pat Watkins. It makes just as much sense … tall players are subject to larger forces on their joints … small players are more compact, have less force on their joints, and hence are less injury prone.
If you want to sensibly make the claim that smaller players are injury risks, go find some evidence that supports that claim.You need a study that looks at injury rates for all players and compares respective rates for short / tall , big / small etc. If short players have higher injury rates, then you’ve got a point (I’ll be surprised though … if forced to bet I’d put money on the opposite being true). But a single annecdote is evidence of nothing. No more than Pat Watkin’s injury history is evidence that big player are injury prone.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jan 31, 2011 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
Not bad science. First off I am not going to spend the time to come up with a true statistical formula for a blog.
I just took the player everyone tries to compare him to and showed what his career looks like. Plain and simple find me 1 Pro Bowl quality S that is durable and 5’8. Short is short and wanting the guy to succeed does not mean Black is going to be an exception. Guys his size do not have long term success in the NFL at S.
Sizes of best Safeties
Rolle – 6-0 – 208
Polamalu – 5-10 – 207
Reed – 5-11 – 200
Rhodes – 6-3 – 212
Sharper – 6-2 – 210
Collins – 5-11 – 207
Berry – 6-0 – 211
Bethea – 5-11 – 203
Meriwether – 5-11 – 200
Harper – 6-1 – 200
Sanders – 5-8 – 206 (injury prone)
Byrd – 5-10 – 200 (one good year)
Thomas – 5-10 – 202 (rookie)
So, it looks like almost all the best safeties fit into the mold of:
5-10 to 6-3 and 200-212 lbs.
Hypothesis: Part of the reason why Sanders is so injury prone is that he’s packed on so much weight on to a frame which can’t handle it, that any bending which happens wrongly causes him to break….
If Black were 5’ 10", then, I’d say that it’s quite possible he could stay healthy and be productive. But 2 inches is quite a bit when you’re trying to pack on more muscle especially when you’re getting to the levels that they do in the NFL…
Anecdotal Fallacy Alert! Anecdotal Fallacy Alert!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence
(2) Evidence, which may itself be true and verifiable, used to deduce a conclusion which does not follow from it, usually by generalizing from an insufficient amount of evidence. For example “my grandfather smoked like a chimney and died healthy in a car crash at the age of 99” does not disprove the proposition that “smoking markedly increases the probability of cancer and heart disease at a relatively early age”. In this case, the evidence may itself be true, but does not warrant the conclusion.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Feb 1, 2011 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
Key words here:
used to deduce a conclusion, warrant
Hypothesis:
I’m not trying to deduce, conclude, or warrant anything here. I’m making a hypothesis or an argument in which you don’t need iron-clad data to try to debate something.
Feel free to come up with counter-examples to disprove my hypothesis. That’s the scientific method, after all.
And you might want to can it with the attitude. You’re a smart person. You shouldn’t have to try to lord it over others.
Oh and another thing
I just took the top safeties from other peoples’ lists, and THEN looked at their heights and weights.
It’s a small sample size, but it IS a sample size nonetheless.
You’d have been correct in saying that my list suffers from SSS issues instead of an incorrect argument of an “Anecdotal Fallacy Alert.”
the issue isn’t the list.
the issue is you took a single player (Sanders) and drew your hypothesis (which for practical purposes is the same as a conclusion) from that single player.
A single 5’8" player having injuries doesn’t warrant the conclusion/hypothesis that all 5’8" players will have injuries. It’s a textbook example of an anecdotal fallacy.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Feb 2, 2011 7:24 AM CST up reply actions
Issue is you have no proof to back up YOUR statement so you attack evryone elses.
You have not shown 1 shred of evidence that his lack of size will NOT be an issue. You can not point out 1 player of his size to be successful in the NFL at the S position for any length of time. All you do is come on here and make silly pot shots and try and use big words to say nothing. Make a point or stop replying.
Issue is you have no proof to back up YOUR statement
what are you talking about? The first thing I did was list smaller safeties. that was the "proof’.
how about Jim Leonhard? Has he played enough for you? 13, 16, and 11 games the last year year. No better or worse than bigger guys like Ed Reed and Laron Landry.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Feb 2, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
Leonhard
is a good example of a counter-example.
Thank you for bringing him up.
Perhaps, I should clarify the hypothesis I put forth earlier:
HYPOTHESIS: To play safety in today’s NFL, a certain weight and height appear to be optimum. Being outside that range of weight/height raises the probability of not performing the job that a safety needs to perform in their current context to a premium level.
Part of the hypothesis is that players shorter than the range of heights, who attempt to perform at the same weight level as the optimum, get injured because their bodies aren’t meant to handle that much weight on their bodies and take the pounding that NFL safeties take. Shorter safeties who are lighter aren’t able to perform at the elite level.
Now, Leonhard MIGHT be a counter-example to that. However, that’s dependent on whether you consider his play elite level play.
an example will help
according to your logic NFL teams should avoid Samoan safeties (e.g. Troy Polamalu) bc of injury risk.
Issue is you have no proof to back up YOUR statement so you attack evryone elses. You have not shown 1 shred of evidence that his lack of size being Samoan will NOT be an injury issue. You can not point out 1 Samoan player of his size to be successful in the NFL at the S position for any length of time.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Feb 2, 2011 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
Bullshit
Hypothesis are just that. Potential explanations to be tested and NOT conclusions.
Since you seem to like wikipedia so much:
Hypothesis
An hypothesis …. is a proposed explanation for an observable phenomenon…..
Experimenters may test and reject several hypotheses before solving the problem.
Conclusion (from wiktionary)
(logic) In a syllogism, the proposition that follows as a necessary consequence of the premises.
Don’t tell me what my use of words does and does not mean. I meant my hypothesis exactly as the wikipedia described: a proposed explanation. That’s why I used HYPOTHESIS as the starting word for that set.
You said:
A single 5’8" player having injuries doesn’t warrant the conclusion/hypothesis that all 5’8" players will have injuries. It’s a textbook example of an anecdotal fallacy.
That’s bullshit. You really need to study up on the differences between science and logic. Science isn’t meant to PROVE anything. It’s meant to DISPROVE hypotheses. Logic is the exact opposite. You are SUPPOSED to prove things from “what you know.”
Hypothesis are proposed explanations meant to be tested over and over again. Conclusions ARE proven propositions.
- A single examples does not warrant a conclusion.
- You don’t even need a single example to put forth a hypothesis (though the more examples you have, the less likely your hypothesis will be proven wrong).
Stop trying to weasel your way to making yourself looking right on your analysis of my post.
you’re planning to testing your hypothesis? I’d be thrilled if that’s the plan. Are you now going to go look at all the players in the NFL, see if shorter players actually have higher injury rates, and then prove / disprove your hypotheis? Because it didn’t seem like that when your next sentence was:
If Black were 5’ 10", then, I’d say that it’s quite possible he could stay healthy and be productive. But 2 inches is quite a bit when you’re trying to pack on more muscle especially when you’re getting to the levels that they do in the NFL…
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Feb 2, 2011 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
For some reason
I don’t think you mean this statement.
I’d be thrilled if that’s the plan
You’ve been basically badgering me about this, so much so, that frankly it’s induced me to not want to do any more research into this, because from my experience, you’re just going to be an argumentative prick about it.
If you take a look at some of my other fanposts on this site and on lonestarball, you can see the amount of work I’ve put into some fanposts previously. Heck, I did more research on this than your “counter-examples,” and you still have the chutzpah to jump to the conclusion that I’m making conclusions instead of a hypothesis even though I state it as a hypothesis.
Part of the reason why we toss out hypotheses out there is so that we can see if others know of any other information which can lead us to continue testing, to modify, or to reject the hypotheses.
Instead of seeing any of that information, I get belittled and disparaged to no purpose, that I can tell, other than to make the belittler feel superior to the “poor unenlightened masses beneath him.”
Now, if I had been encouraged to follow it as a hypothesis or been offered information supporting or denying the hypothesis, then I might have felt excited or more interested in pursuing the hypothesis testing.
But frankly, I don’t feel like rewarding guys acting like pricks, so I would have to have a lot more payoff to even want do more research than I already did on this.
For some reason I don’t think you mean this statement.
of course I mean. I’m always thrilled when people think scientfically. It usually means I’m going to learn something intereting.
And if there’s reserach out there that’s addressed whether shorter/smaller players are more injury prone I would want to know about it. In fact, I’d start referencing it myself.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Feb 2, 2011 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
And the best way to solicit
scientific thinking is accusing others of making conclusions even when they specifically state they are making a hypothesis and then telling them they’re making a logical error based off that accusation?
Req,
I apologize without reservation.
don’t let me discourage you from writing, commenting, researching, on BTB.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Feb 2, 2011 6:16 PM CST up reply actions
Apology accepted
Thank you for that.
I do feel very tired about this, though. So I don’t know how much I feel like pursuing this information….
Though I will say part of my hesitation for future research is that there doesn’t seem to be a standardized heights and weights sets across all the information providers.
NFL.com is quite different from pro-football-reference. And that also is dependent on WHEN the measurements are done as heights and weights fluctuate across time….
Anyways, if you have any idea on how to standardize these pieces of information, I would greatly appreciate it.
hey for a joke
if the Chiefs draft Black, they get a Black Berry secondary
ahhhhh hahahahahaha
by Archie Barberio on Feb 2, 2011 6:46 PM CST up reply actions
you’re planning to testing your hypothesis? I’d be thrilled if that’s the plan. Are you now going to go look at all the players in the NFL, see if shorter players actually have higher injury rates, and then prove / disprove your hypotheis? Because it didn’t seem like that when your next sentence was:
If Black were 5’ 10", then, I’d say that it’s quite possible he could stay healthy and be productive. But 2 inches is quite a bit when you’re trying to pack on more muscle especially when you’re getting to the levels that they do in the NFL…
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Feb 2, 2011 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
yessir
I forgot about Quinton Carter, who I really like
right now I would rank them
1-Moore
2-Black
3-Sands
4-Carter
5-McDaniel
6-Jarrett
7-Williams(would be alot higher if not for that inury)
by Archie Barberio on Jan 29, 2011 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
Where will these guys go in the draft?
How many of them will be there in round 2? I say Moore might be the only one gone when we pick in round two, but he might even still be there. How many of these guys will be gone when we pick in round three? I think a lot of them will be gone in round three. We really need to get at least one of the 7 guys you mentioned. Of that list, a couple will probably be studs, a few will be OK, and a few will be busts. I just hope we select the right one of that list. That’s the same as I feel at OT. We have a chance to select the best one out of Smith, Solder, Carimi, Castanzo, Sherrod, but we don’t know who we would take. At least one of those guys will be great, so let’s hope that we can figure out which is going to be the best. We are in a good position to be able to draft the number one OT and the number one Safety; we just need for our draft people to pick the right guy.
the run will start round 2
some team might take Moore in round 1, kinda what I think will happen
then the run will start in round 2
depends what we do in the 1st, if we take a OL then we can grab a S in the 2nd
if we take another position besides OL in the 1st, we gotta take a OL in the 2nd
the OL and S run will start in the 2nd too
I do not want any parts of Castonzo or Solder really not at all
im not impressed with either of them at all
by Archie Barberio on Jan 29, 2011 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
McDaniel would make a great SS
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth! Garrett & Ryan working as a team should create a physical environment at Valley Ranch that shows up on gameday.
I just keep watching Black's career highlight reel
and I get the chills
- makes it happen
by Archie Barberio on Jan 29, 2011 8:29 PM CST reply actions
Black Missed Sr.Bowl Game
Too bad we didn’t get to see Ahmad “Tiny” Black play in the Senior Bowl…he was sick.
There were some sizable receivers in this game and I was anxcious to see how he would stack up against them to see if he could measure up to their level.
Love the nickname “TINY”…Just to keep it SHORT!
Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.
Another great write-up
I’m trying not to fall in love with players who’ll go that far down in the draft—it just seems too remote that we’ll hit on one guy in particular. But I got really pumped up watching the video. I can definitely picture him wearing the star.
I get pumped
I put that joint on and Black is flying all over
what ya know about that
by Archie Barberio on Jan 30, 2011 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sold Chia
Rec’d. Black looks like a stud. I love guys who are just playmakers and get dropped in the draft for their size or speed limitations. They seem to hit more often than they miss. Nguyen and Emmitt pop to mind. Brandon Spikes last year. London Fletcher. Bob Sanders. Sam Mills.
I think especially at positions like LB and S, speed is overrated, as instincts are more important. I’m much more hesitant at a position like CB to draft slower guys. I’ve played both, and I can tell you that its hard to cover up a lack of wheels when trying to cover a bomb one on one…not so much at safety, where your anticipation is more important.
Of course its a worry about injury, but I think that’s overrated, plus he held up well in the SEC, so he should be fine in the NFL.
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by cowboysuberfan on Jan 30, 2011 5:09 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
thanks
I mean I dont usually say this guy is too small or this guy is too big, I look for football players and good ones
Black is that
I read an article today I believe it was the Boston Globe anyway he was writing about players the Patriots would be interested in
Black, regardless of his size would be a Bellicheck guy, the article stated also that Von Miller would fit regardless of the Patriots liking larger LB’s
I think 2 of my favorite players this draft are labeled small
Von Miller and Ahmad Black
time will tell
but I think both are going to be great
Miller will get larger like Clay Matthews did, Black will be around 190-195 combine time
regardless the kid is still growing and could be 200 pounds, idk if he will get taller
but we still need a cornerback right, Black happens to play corner too
with Black your getting a versatile player who can do a variety of things in the 2nd round
by Archie Barberio on Jan 30, 2011 7:15 PM CST up reply actions
I love guys who are just playmakers and get dropped in the draft for their size or speed limitations. They seem to hit more often than they miss
this is dead on
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jan 30, 2011 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
How many stud 5'8" secondary players are there?
Jerry should let somebody else take a chance. Black shouldn’t be considered before the 4th.
All for Ahmad
Ahmad Black is a playmaker. I like him the most at the S position because he’s a playmaker. There’s something to be said about the guy who somehow controls the game and Black is that type of player. Judging players by size and all that hogwash is why dallas sux right now.
If Jerry got Ahmad Black and Phil Taylor the defense would be back.
Cowboys have to get back to drafting PLAYMAKERS, not these projects of the last decade.
I like it
Black and Taylor would be sick
by Archie Barberio on Feb 2, 2011 9:02 AM CST up reply actions
NO it is Jerry refusing to draft trench players that has this team where it is today.
Almost every team in the NFL drafts using guidelines. It is the intangibles that make or break players. Black is a very good college player, but a lot of those types do not translate to the NFL.

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