Doing your homework. Prepare for the Draft.
Go for what suits you.
That's one of the first tasks of the staff that Garrett will lead, to find out the Xs and Os that fit his personnel the best and how he needs to use that line of thought for the Draft scouting and Free Agency acquisition.
But how is he supposed to do that?
One way is to look at your team's best players, see what they are best at and build around them. So, let's go that way:
Ware: Do you want one good reason for Garrett to keep the 3-4 as the main scheme? Ware is reason number 1, 2 and 3.
1 - Look at the Colts, they have 2 small DEs that are really good pass rushers, but they aren't consistent run defenders and their size is their big disadvantage. In one snap they may be too quick for the Tackle to handle and the play is stopped. In the next snap the same Tackle locks on them and drives him back away from the play. I've seen than happening with Ware (the Cowboys use a lot of 4 man fronts with Ware at one End), it doesn't happen much, but I don't want to see more of it.
2 - Ware takes advantage of the scheme. You know that he's better used as a rusher, and the most likely thing is that he's going to rush, but from where? Do you risk having the Tackle on his side to focus on him, even when he won't rush? Or not through him? How many times have you seen Ware abusing TEs and RBs one on one? I want to see more of that, Offensive Coordinators League wide would disagree.
3 - Ware is a perfect fit in the scheme. He can rush from the left and right side, can play in coverage and can stop the run.
Ratliff: The best word to describe him is explosive. He's perfectly suited to be a 1-technique (aligned in the shoulder of a Center) or 3-technique (aligned in the outside shoulder of a Guard) disrupting force. That's interesting, he can play as the nose in an attacking scheme and as a DT in a 4 man front. He's probably the main reason of why this team continues to use so many 4 man fronts and why they should continue.
Romo: Can take advantage of a moving pocket, improvise, gain more time and burn the DBs. Can look at his 1st, 2nd and 3rd option in a quick scan and recognize windows, even if they're small. Can also recognize soft spots that may be open with time.
Witten: Takes advantage of soft spots and has great chemistry with every QB on the roster.
Free: Versatile. Has LT feet in pass protection. Strong, can drive block. His pass protection feet are evident in blocks on the move and combos.
So, what can I tell from all this? That Ware and Ratliff make the 3-4 a good bet as the main scheme but lots of 4 man fronts are also possible, so look for players that are fits for both schemes (a 3-4 DE that can rush the passer may also be a fit as a 4 man front DE or DT).
And that the team may look for players in Free's mold for the OLine (he doesn't make you think Flozell, Colombo, Tuinei or Erik Williams), better athletes than strong guys, but strong enough to make plays as drive blockers. This kind fit the players around them better than the huge guys of previous generations. And that's because the current Cowboys should face a reality and I'll use a Parcelism:
You are what you are.
The Cowboys are what they do best and that's:
Area and Zone Blocks for the run: Look at Kyle Kosier, Leonard Davis is bigger and more powerful, but the better Guard has always been Kosier, because he does better what has become the bread and butter of the Cowboys running game, the combo blocks and blocks on the move required for most of the big plays that we have seen from Felix Jones and Choice. Free is also a really good blocker on the move. Colombo was named the Offense MVP in 2008 due to what he could do in the 2nd level and his pass protection. Gurode can move too, but he's more of a drive blocker.
Look for more of the same, athletes over power guys, Felix and Choice are the future at RB and they're good fits in an area blocking OLine, but don't go too far or you will have the 90s OLine of Detroit, one that could open lanes for huge gains by Sanders, but one that couldn't push Sanders for TDs in the red zone.
Versatility would be great.
A pocket that bends: That's another benefit of an athletes approach, it plays right to the strengths of Romo, he has the legs and vision to gain more time out of a pocket that seems to be collapsing and burn a Defense. Unfortunately, most of what we've seen of pockets collapsing it's the actual result of a collapse and a likely sack... Better athletes means combination blocks in pass protection, a Guard that loops to push an End wide (he adds an edge because a moving Guard has more inertia than a Tackle that just shoots from his stance) opening a lane for the QB to run through and gain more time. And that's just one example.
An attacking 3-4 isn't much if the DEs can't be disruptive: Teams know that they're in to play the run and teams go for the pass, the team then moves in the 4-man attacking front in pass rushing plays and teams run the ball if the distance goes from short to medium. DEs that can't attack make a 3-4 attacking scheme an easy to predict one. Look at the first game against the Eagles, Reid played with the Cowboys schemes, especially in the 4th Quarter, the Defense played exactly what he wanted to see. The same is true for the first half of the season with Wade, teams wanted to see the Cowboys blitz and it's clear that they knew when those blitzes would be coming.
Zone is a better fit: At his age, Newman is a better fit in a Zone scheme. Scandrick isn't a good press player because he lacks the instincts. And Jenkins needs a leash, he has the instincts, the aggressiveness, the speed and quick hips to be a really good press CB, but he gambles too much and paid dearly this season for it. Now, the team does need much better level of play from it's Safeties for the Zones to work and that's a big question mark, can you really replace 2 positions and expect better performance? Or the best bet is to see if Sensabaugh improves with better coaching and plays at the level in which he played in 2009? That way, you would only need to replace one safety and a 3 headed plan would be great, a competition between a Free Agent, a draft pick and AOA.
Beware of the red flags.
There are several kinds of red flags, they can be medical, of consistency, off the field and those that have to do with the attitude of the player regarding several things.
In this draft the medical red flag is highlighted by a First Round kind of prospect, Adrian Clayborn, the guy has a kind of palsy that weakens his right arm, the medical staffs of teams will be busy during the Combine and even if he tests well it's still likely that they will lower him a round or so.
The consistency flag is highlighted by Fairley, is he a one year wonder? Coming from 7 games with at least one sack, he showed that he's a dominating force from the middle, I would be more worried if he had accomplished those numbers in less games, dominating lower level competition. The same was true about Ware at it's due time. Consistency, even if it's in one year of great performance, is a big thing in the NFL.
Off the field problems would be highlighted by another of those West Virginia prospects... I dunno what's wrong with that College and all of the talented but problematic prospects coming from it... If you have a highly rated, but problematic prospect, lower him a round.
Not showing a good work ethic is an example of attitude. And if you see someone come up with the dreaded white gloves prospect in a Line be wary of him, that's a huge red flag, it tells you that the guy hasn't shown toughness, like playing through injuries (even if they're minor) or not showing a nasty side. An example would be Winston Justice, he has progressed nicely and has shown that he's a starting caliber prospect, but it took him more than 3 years and 1 Round as he had the physical skills of a 1st Round prospect but fell all the way to the 2nd Round.
Do you agree and feel the need to see if your Cowboys mock fits this criteria? If you don't agree, comment on it and let's discuss it.
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Not explosive, kind of a one trick pony, most of what he does comes from bull rushing.
And doesn’t have the best work ethic. He’s a 2nd-3rd Round prospect because he’s big and has potential, but needs a lot of work. Not a 1st day starter.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Not explosive?
You could say he is raw, because he is and he hasn’t got a lot of football experience under his belt, but he will get off the line in a hurry as he plays more ball. He’s an athletic freak who may be this year’s Bruce Campbell at the Combine.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Well, that's the problem
He has great highlights, but he isn’t consistent, it’s evident that he isn’t giving his best every play and it shows.
To me, an explosive player is someone that gets himself into the head of the Lineman in front of him and the guy goes as far as taking a step back right after the snap because he knows what’s coming.
That’s the impresion that I got, and looking around, several people agrees with me like Bunting with lines like “he looks like he has a good first step…” or Scott Wright “often late off the snap and lacks a burst”… When you see that kind of lines, you know that he’s been all over the map.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
No
He is one of those freakish athletes that has less than half the understanding about the game as his linemates and opponents do.
So when you see a guy like that make any kind of play, it’s because he used speed, strength and quickness to overcome the lack of knowledge about things like angles, leverage, hand placement, etc.
He IS explosive. He doesn’t know much about football and he could be so far behind or not become a student of the game in terms of developing new moves that he never really amounts to much.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
And being a longtime fan of "da U"...
…I will add this about Bailey.
Ex-Head Coach Randy Shannon and his staff were not the best. AB did not receive good coaching (according to many including myself), and it’s been noted that his position coaches (during Bailey’s four years at Miami) Clint Hurtt and Rick Petri were NOT impressive in taking his talents to another level. Plus, da Canes went through three defensive coordinators in four years while Bailey was there.
That explains his inconsistency.
People understimate coaching on the collegiate level. To me, it’s more important the pros, all because these kids are still developing—and their chances to make it in the NFL depend on that development.
For the record, I remember when Miami was recruiting Bailey. Canesport.com reported that he grew up in a small area in Georgia—kinda like an island off the actual state. And many friends that grew up with him spoke of seeing him actually wrestle gators over there with his bare hands.
That explains his freakish strength.
He’d be great in a rotation, but in my opinion…I think he’ll need an outstanding position coach.
There’s definitely some mega upside with AB.
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
This is brilliant, even if limited
People understimate coaching on the collegiate level. To me, it’s more important the pros, all because these kids are still developing—and their chances to make it in the NFL depend on that development.
People who’ve never played this game before underestimate the value of coaching at ALL levels. Look behind the curtain at any great coach and you find a great teacher. Great teachers are few and far between.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Thanks Blings
True regarding your comment on coaching at ALL levels.
But I guess I look at it as a father guiding my kid in to a program that has proven, experienced coaches whom I feel I could trust…because in my opinion, these people are gonna be pivotal in the development and future of my offspring’s potential profession.
That’s why I emphasized “on the collegiate level.”
But you’re dead on. The teaching NEVER ends…even on the pro level.
Great stuff, Bruh.
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
Two ceegars for this thread....
first for the comment 5b also acknowledged, then for his summary following said comment. Which extends FAR beyond football which must be understood as miniscule in the bigger picture………
see I rather take Allen Bailey over Dareus
thats just me
by Archie Barberio on Jan 8, 2011 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
Neither is worthy of #9, but we may be in no man's land unless we move up or down...
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
The clock.......
will definitely be on the poker players on draft day, quick and decisive play based upon intelligent study of the immediate hand and the wisdom of all previous experience will either make or break the day.
With an 18-game season a real possibility, the need for quality depth becomes even more important than before
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Look at the Colts, they have 2 small DEs that are really good pass rushers and won a Super Bowlbut they aren’t consistent run defenders
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jan 7, 2011 4:08 PM CST reply actions
True
But:
They had Peyton Manning at QB.
I haven’t seen better performance from the LBs and Safeties when it mattered the most (the early 00s Titans and Ravens are also up there).
And it took a down year for 2 dominating teams in the AFC (Patriots and Steelers, Manning has to hate them).
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
just keep your mind open to the possibility that there’s more than way to be successful and the possibilities that opens up.
I wouldn’t say that getting a 240 lb DE like Mathis the route to success.
But I do think that winning a Super Bowl with that formula is a more important fact than the fact that they struggle defending the run.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jan 7, 2011 4:41 PM CST up reply actions
I do have my mind open
I want to continue to see 4 man fronts in pass rush situations, I just don’t want it as the base scheme, IMO Ware is a better OLB in a 3-4 than what he would be as a 4 man front End.
That’s it.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
i have never seen a more flawed argument
you have to remember there are 22 (starters) guys playing, a 240 lbs guy is not the key to the superbowl, it takes a lot more, regarding your argument i can equally said they have played since 2003, meaning they have one superbowl win but a lot of seasons with no superbowl as well and i’m pretty sure the inability to stop the run played a big role in those season with no superbowl win
by the way if you like small guys take a look to dontay moch, he’s great…for the colts
here’s some facts.
-Indy consistently has outstanding defensive pass efficiency. Between 2009-2005 their defensive passing efficiency was 5th, 9th, 6th, 14th, and 8th.
Everyone say ‘oh they have Peyton’ but it’s not just Peyton. It’s Peyton and great defense. The offense over that period was slightly better 4th, 9th, 4th, 1st, 1st.
And Indy’s wins: 14, 12, 13, 12, 14
Why? Because a good pass defense is a whole lot more important than a good run defense. Support for that claim here.
So no, I don’t care if Dallas allows 4.2 YPC instead of 4.0 YPC. I care whether they allow 5 yards per pass instead 8 yard per pass, and you should too.
Why? Because a great offense will gain 400 yds / g … 300 passing & 100 rushing … notice how passing yards are 3x rushing yards. You want to win SBs you need to shut down the 300 yd part of the equation.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jan 7, 2011 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, Regular season stats are fine, but if we take regular season stats, then Aikman doesn’t deserve his bust in Canton.
If that Defense is so great, and they are led by probably the best QB in the League, why haven’t they won more?
Because that Defense hasn’t played that well in the Playoffs. That’s your answer.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
why haven’t they won more?
I’ll give you a nuanced answer.
First, they’ve been too 2 and won 1 … so they’re doing a lot better than the Parcell’s ‘Planet Theory’ teams that have been sitting at home.
However, run defense seems to become more important in the playoffs ..
Defensive run efficiency is a different story. Although the team with superior run stopping ability won only 48.7% of the regular season good vs. good match-ups, it won 67.3% of playoff games.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jan 8, 2011 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
i like pass rush, i'm not old fashioned
but we can’t neglect the importance of the rush, we need balance, i stand of my position, if you look at ware there a re players who escel at both pass rushing and run stopping, and that’s what we need, there are guys like dominate ot dominated once in the pass rushing, you can count guys who are just third down rushers or just faded like shawn merriman, manny lawson, kamerion wimbley, all are former first round picks, manny lawson is the type of guy you like, 240 lbs, fast as hell, he’s on his fifth year or something, and he’s great but also just a third down player
my issue was this …
i have never seen a more flawed argument
my claim is that pass defense is more important than run defense. ergo, it’s worth giving up something in run defense to improve the pass defense.
Indy is probably the purest example of following that strategy. And they’ve been one of the 2 most successful teams over the last 5 years. That to me is the key lesson; not that they don’t have the best run defense.
manny lawson is the type of guy you like, 240 lbs, fast as hell, he’s on his fifth year or something, and he’s great but also just a third down player
and BTW, maybe that’s part of the 49er’s problem (since they were 23rd in defensive pass efficiency and 2nd in defensive run efficiency). maybe instead of worrying about stopping the run they should have been playing Lawson every down.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jan 8, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
we can’t neglect the importance of the rush, we need balance
let me pose a question. as I said, good offense 300 yds passing, 100 yds rushing.
do you think run defense and pass defense are of equivalent importance?
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jan 8, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
pass defense is more important but not as important to draft guys
who could be below average defending the run, we can give up some on run defense but just a bit, a 240 lbs LB on this scheme would be a major liability, major.
300-100 this stat could be tricky, if a team is consistently bad at stoppin the rush teams will take advantage, they will make what it takes to win and if that means a win for 3 points and running the ball more than 40 times they will do it, no matter if they just throw for 150 yards, in recent years i have seen some teams doing it, the jets, the browns, the ravens, the jags
so i’m not saying stopping the run is more important i’m saying the difference beetwen stopping both pass and run is not as big as you think and your quote about the 3*1 difference on yards actually doesn’t reflect the true difference on both aspects of the game, if that were the case we should be witnessing a 70-30 % pass ratio around the league, which obviously is not the case, i could compare your statement to a QB throwing for 300 yards in garbage time, stats must be weighed according to circunstances
a 240 lbs LB on this scheme would be a major liability, major
The Colts win SB with a 240 lb 4-3 DE but a 240 lb 3-4 OLB would a major liability. I’m not buying it.
your quote about the 3*1 difference on yards actually doesn’t reflect the true difference on both aspects of the game
The real analytical support for the 3-1 importance is found by statistical analysis. Multiple references included in this post.
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2010/12/1/1837314/a-pass-centric-look-at-the-coaching-candidates
You want to ignore Burke, Berri, Winston, Goode, et. al be my guest.
A good passing game is far more important than a good running game in the NFL. It’s at least twice as important, and probably even more so. If we include interceptions as part of the passing game, passing efficiency and interception rates dwarf the importance of running efficiency by a factor of 4 to 1.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jan 8, 2011 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
what's up, the colts are on his way to another superbowl, don't?
169 rushing yards allowed, 185 passing yards, good pass defense, still not enough
Look, I wouldn’t expect you to know this because not everyone follows the stats very closely, but the Colts pass defense has collapsed this year because of injuries. Indy dropped to 24th in defensive pass efficiency this year.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/features/rumors
Perhaps the most damaging aspect to the Colts’ season was the spate of injuries on both sides of the ball, but particularly on defense. As Gregg Rosenthal of NBCSports.com noted during the game, the Colts were without Melvin Bullitt, Jerraud Powers, Clint Session, Kelvin Hayden and Bob Sanders.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/game-previews/2011/afc-wild-card-preview
The difference between this year’s Colts and previous Colts defenses is that the biggest holes aren’t in the run defense. They’re in the pass defense.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2010/insider/news/story?id=5991111
Myth: The Indianapolis Colts’ biggest problem is their run defense.
Historically, the undersized Colts have been able to contain passing games with the pass rush ability of Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis, but they’ve been pushed around in the running game and struggled to stop stout rushing attacks. This year, the Colts’ pass defense has been awful, ranking 26th in DVOA. The run defense? It’s a reasonable 19th. In fact, the Colts rank eighth on defense in those “power” run situations we mentioned earlier.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/news/story?id=5895084
The Colts have gotten little help on the other side of the ball. Strong safeties Bob Sanders and Melvin Bullitt have both been taken out, leaving third-stringer Aaron Francisco to start since Week 5. Six different players have started at linebacker, none for more than eight games; that’s weakened the Colts against both the run and the pass. Early in the season, Indianapolis struggled to defend deep passes. After Kyle Orton and the Broncos gashed them in Week 3, going 9-of-12 on deep passes, the Colts have kept their safeties way off the line. Now opponents aren’t even trying to throw deep — the Colts have seen only 38 deep passes since Week 4, the fewest in the league in that span. However, that strategy has left the depleted linebacker corps to cover the short zones, and they have not been up to the task. Since the Denver game, passes to running backs have gained successful yardage against the Colts 56 percent of the time, by far the highest figure in the league.
And Freeney was playing on an injured ankle.
Anyway, the NYJ have one of the best OL in football, going against a couple of 240 lb DE and managed …. 17 pts!
And the lesson you take from that is?
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jan 9, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
how did you grade out Freeney vs Brick last night?
I watched that matchup all night
by Archie Barberio on Jan 9, 2011 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
I thought the announcers said Freeney had an injured ankle. He definitely didn’t look like himself … that or Brick was killing him.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jan 9, 2011 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
yeah I think he was banged up
I thought Freeney still looked pretty good and I thought Brick did a good job
pretty equal
both are great players I am a huge Freeney fan
he is the only non Cowboy jersey I have
authentic too, Colts jerseys are nice
by Archie Barberio on Jan 9, 2011 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
Yes they had no fear of the Sanchize.
When they have faced teams with balanced offenses they have given up huge rushing #s.
he looked like shit
Sanchez was awful that first half
the Colts couldnt stop the run, and it was evident last night where Greene and LT were carving them up
felt good for Folk, I heard him scream YEAHHHHHHHHH as soon as it went thru the uprights
by Archie Barberio on Jan 9, 2011 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
I bet his career takes a huge upswing now.
All kickers are headcases and he now has a huge confidence boost.
I was happy for him
thats a BIG kick
we never should of flat out released him, we should of IR’d him and let him get fully healthy and then battle in camp for the job, that was one of the worst decisions we made, and letting Canty walk, because I loved Canty’s size and pass rush ability, we havent a DE with that size speed and strength since then, thats why I am very high on Cam Jordan and Muhammad Wilkerson, both remind me of Canty in that their DE’s that are fast strong have that muscular tall build and can rush the passer, we need that at DE again
by Archie Barberio on Jan 9, 2011 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
here’s my point.
that’s the worst possible matchup supposedly for the Colt’s D. A big running OL.
The Colts were missing half their defense, including 2 DTs. And yet, it was nowhere near fatal.
Their pass defense wasn’t good (allowing 5.9 YPA) and they still only gave up 17 pts.
A good passing team goes against a bad pass D, game over. A good run team goes against a bad run D … all they can do is run 40 times for 4.4 YPC.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jan 9, 2011 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
yeah I totally agree
how about Ken Hamlin #35 on the Colts now
I thought he played his usual solid self
would love him back here, even though he isnt exciting, he is just solid
I hated him because of the contract he had
if he had a Sensabaugh type of contract Hamlin never would of been released
I really hate Wade for believing in Alan Ball was a FS god that was awful
by Archie Barberio on Jan 9, 2011 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
not all 240 lb DEs are Dwight Freeney, just like not all 275 lb 3-4 DEs are not Bruce Smith
The reason there are physical prototypes (not just size, but speed, strength) is because those prototypes tend to work. Of course there are outliers, there always are, but good luck hitting on those.
I know you are not arguing that any 240 pounder could be plugged in to play DE. However, if you are making that argument, please forward my name to the Cowboys and let them know I will play for half the salary of whomever else they are considering.
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The reason there are physical prototypes (not just size, but speed, strength) is because those prototypes tend to work
here’s where I think that argument breaks down. There’s prototypical size and prototypical athleticism. And no free lunches. There’s a trade-off.
So the question is getting the balance between size and athleticism right. In general, I think NFL teams may be erring on the side of too much size.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jan 10, 2011 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
Fair enough, but the prototypes are still there
I can accept a sliding scale where you can trade size for athleticism, as well as athleticism for size.
Is there a size that is too small to play DE? I’d say yes, no matter how athletic the player is. Do you disagree with that?
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Is there a size that is too small to play DE?
I would agree that there is. In fact, I suspect the tricky part is that there’s an inflection point where the trade-off gets real bad and suddenly the cost of too little size is much greater than benefit increased athleticism.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jan 10, 2011 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
an example helps explain …
I believe its probably an axiom of NFL defense that allowing 4 yds per rush with no variance is fatal (it has to be no variance … 4 YPC is ok). If a defense allows 4 yds per rush with no variance their opponent will run every play and the defense will never stop them.
So assume that you believe my claim .. That you can trade size for athleticism and its primarily benefiting the pass defense and you can’t allow 4YPC/no variance. You’re trading size for athleticism and for every 5 lbs the cost is 1 unit of run defense and the benefit is 2 units of pass defense. Net benefit is 1 unit. Everything is great .. but at some point you hit the magic line of 4 YPC and for the next 5 lbs the equation changes: you crossed the magic line and for the next 5 lbs the cost is 50 units of run defense and the benefit is still 2 units on pass defense. You wiped out all the benefits and then some.
That’s my hunch, that NFL coaches are terrified of that inflection point so they err on the side of too big.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jan 10, 2011 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
James Harrison. OLB Pittsburg: 6' 0 240 lbs
by AustonianAggie on Jan 10, 2011 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
look if Von Miller is bigger than James Harrison
and they play the same position, you must admit then that Von Miller is plenty big.
James Harrison. OLB Pittsburg: 6’ 0 240 lbs
Von Miller OLB A&M, 6’2 242 lbs
and Miller is waaay faster
by AustonianAggie on Jan 10, 2011 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
That is flawed logic.
Just because I am 6’2 250lbs, it does not mean I am big enough to play NFL football. Just look at the builds of the 2 players. Harrison is much thicker than Miller and even he is susceptible to being run at by teams. Miller is pretty lanky and plays very upright and is VERY susceptible to the run.
so you compare Von Miller and 2008 defensive player of the year James Harrison?
James Harrison and Von Miller play the same position. Miller has 27 sacks in the last two years. Hey, if they run at us, you can always put in Anthony Spencer.
In the meantime I’m looking for ways to nail QBs to the turf
by AustonianAggie on Jan 10, 2011 4:50 PM CST up reply actions
bottom line thinking......
drastically improved pass defense worth AT LEAST 1 TD off opponents average per game, maybe more as bad as ours has been. And I count the extra points in with the reduction. so lets say 7 points or north………
Red Flags
This is a mixed bag, there is no strict formula to follow.
For example, an out of shape OT was taken in the top ten a few years ago…and stayed so fat he couldn’t stay on the field…hello Andre Smith
A Wide Receiver quit his football team and was still taken in the 4th round of the 2010 NFL Draft…and had better stats than Dez Bryant (Mike Williams)
The DE Carlos Dunlap had work ethic and consistency issues, but so far is looking like a steal.
I have a feeling all NFL scouts are alcoholics.
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Yeah, I agree
But the last guys that you mentioned droped a round or 2 from where they should have been drafted based on talent due to their flags, and so far they’re seen like steals and they may very well end up being ones.
But they aren’t the norm.
Andre Smith was a stupid pick based on need and that’s why I really don’t want an OLineman with the 9th pick, this is a really poor class…
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Good post and rec'd
I think I’m going to steal some of your stuff for later reference.
My personal red flag: the “High Motor Guy”. Most of the time it just means the guy is slow, athletically limited and usually undersized.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 7, 2011 4:57 PM CST reply actions
I think I’m going to steal some of your stuff for later reference.
Feel free.
My personal red flag: the "High Motor Guy". Most of the time it just means the guy is slow, athletically limited and usually undersized.
Good one, but if you couple high motor with explosive first step, there you have a really good prospect. Suh has that combination, Fairley has shown flashes. It’s a shame that he’s out of the Cowboys reach.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Hahahaha. You hit on one of my pet peeves with announcers.
They attach these labels to players that are meant to be nice but they generally are showing a flaw in that player’s game or are racially motivated (think how many white guys are labeled “gritty”).
For me, and I know Lissyyyy will disagree, but I think Kerrigan is a “high motor guy” this year. He isn’t that athletic and I don’t think he will be extremely successful at the next level.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
My problem with announcers......
is that they say the exact thing I said (or thought if alone) except with about a 2 second delay. Don’t tell me you all haven’t had it happen to you too. And they just WEAR OUT stuff. Madden- ok guy, but the master of restating the obvious.
A less-experienced Calais Campbell?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Yo Blings...Campbell was a DE, Bailey is a DT
Both are very strong, however…
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
Yes, I meant that in terms of body type, athleticism, skill level and experience
Seems they would both have similar positives and negatives about them coming out of school around their inconsistency and upside.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Exactly
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
silver I like the U as well
whats your take on Brandon Harris?
by Archie Barberio on Jan 9, 2011 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
Raw and lacking the mental strength to handle the NFL.
That is my take on all of the U prospects. I would downgrade all of them at least 1 round and most of them 2 rounds.
wow ok
I wanted to see what Silver thought too, he is a U fan like me
by Archie Barberio on Jan 9, 2011 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
I know just had to chime in.
The U has been a victim of poor coaching for almost a decade now. They have a lot of physical talent, but it is never been properly coached.
na I like hearing your opinion
I want to here what people say of Harris. because I think Janoris Jenkins is the 3rd best corner in the draft, really reminds me of Asante Samuel, a off zone corner who reads the QB and jumps routes
again it might be a reach but I would even take Janoris Jenkins 9th overall, thats how good I think he is
by Archie Barberio on Jan 9, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
Jenkins and Harris are both going to depend on scheme.
Neither is overly physical, but have great speed.
I'm looking forward to da Golden era, CC...
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
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Hope to see you on there some day.
I’m greenorange5 on both sites, Bruh…
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
no doubt im gonna check it out
actually I thought Golden was a good move
by Archie Barberio on Jan 10, 2011 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
+1
Btw, check out this article on Shields, Bruh…
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
by silverblue5 on Jan 10, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
After Floyd DESTROYED him in da Sun Bowl...
…U would think he’d wanna come back for his senior year.
Guess he got some info that he’s projected to be a first or second rounder.
I think he’s better in bump and run coverage, which he DID NOT do vs ND in that Sun Bowl loss.
Like Big D said below, the poor coaching really hurt a lot of them. I would’ve LOVED to see B-Harris under new DB coach Paul Williams, new DC Mark D’Onofrio…and esp under new HC Al Golden.
I absolutely loved that hire.
The best thing about their disappointing season this year is that it got Randy Shannon and some of his assistants outta there—and it landed us Golden.
Back to Brandon Harris…
Harris will start out as a nickel—imho—and oughta get better IF he’s in the right situation. IF he ends up in New England or Chicago or Baltimore or a team with great defensive assistants and scouts, he’ll get better.
Here’s an example, DB-Sam Shields (former WR) went undrafted, but the Packers scouts signed him as an undrafted free agent. Now, he’s contributing more and more on special teams and as an important nickel corner. He’s got speed and talent…and although he went undrafted, a great team signed him—and I expect him to get only better.
Long story short…Harris is extremely talented with above average speed, but he’s inconsistent—and more of a Tier 2 draftee.
But he is a great character guy. Very, very mature…and could eventually be a stud corner if he keeps working hard and receives good coaching. And he has leadership potential, as well.
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
yeah
in a nutshell i thought he should of went back, to solidify he draft status
Sam Shields has been playing alot better, I remember Dez smoking him but he looked better this year
by Archie Barberio on Jan 10, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
Good work Chandus
Rec’d. Past drafts have shown that the player breakdowns on BTB are really amazing. Last year BTB zeroed in on Markice Pouncey long before anybody else was talking about him. This year he’s a rookie pro bowler. Other players mentioned ended up to be exactly as described here. But as you noted get the fit and watch for the red flags.
Von Miller
first time I got to see him play live tonight, and I fell in love
Von Miller 9th overall, turn the card in Jerry
im tired of waiting for Spencer
We gotta address the oline
fist and foremost . . . if Spencer and Jenkins and Lee and others on defense can’t step it up a notch, Dallas is doomed . . . but that oline has got to be addressed completely . . . there is not a backup that has any credibilty and Colombo looks shot; Bigg looks disinterested . . .
so your gonna take the 18th to 20th best player in the draft over the 9th or 11th overall player?
by Archie Barberio on Jan 8, 2011 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
You trade down into that slot and pick up an extra 2nd rounder or something.
Instead of drafting an undersized pass rusher that we don’t even need. If the Cowboys stay at 9 and draft Von Miller I will scream.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
BPA approach is overrated anyway.
How has that worked out for us the past couple of seasons? At some point you have to figure out how to address your needs. If you have none or very few it’s one thing, but when you have as many holes as the Cowboys do you find a way to get them plugged.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
YOu are also assuming that our scouts are going to grade the OL players the same as the "experts".
What if the scouts decide Sherrod or Solder, etc.. is the 9th best player? Going strictly off of draft sites is kind of pointless. Of course everyone has their favorite players, but it is hard to truly judge talent without coaches tape. I would rather draft Sherrod over just about anyone not named Patrick Peterson.
your that high on Sherrod?
I like Sherrod, at watched him play 3 times this year, good athlete too
idk Im a Gabe Carimi guy, really like him alot kinda reminds me of Joe Thomas, who went to Wisconsin too
by Archie Barberio on Jan 9, 2011 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
I am very high on Sherrod.
I like Carimi, but Sherrod is much more athletic. Sherrod is almost as good as Carimi in the run game, but a lot better in the passing game. I would be happy with either. They are my 1 and 2 OT’s over all.
mine too
I got Sherrod and Carimi basically 1a and 1b then I got Tyron Smith, I think he is going to be like D’Brickashaw Ferguson
by Archie Barberio on Jan 9, 2011 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
No
Just no.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
On a scale of 1 to 4, I've always been a 4
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Nate Solder
is an offensive tackle out of Colorado that fits the mold of Free. Athletic and talented . . . could play left if something happened to Free, while getting his feet wet in the NFL on th right side. I think TCU proved that speed and technique can work wonders against Goliath
I think its Sherrod then Carimi
really dont see any other OL worth a 1st rd pick
I still like Mike Pouncey for guard, and imo with some coaching could be a good center
he will be a real bargain in the 2nd
most of the OL are in the 2nd to 3rd round
Marcus Cannon I like John Moffitt I like Stephen Schilling I like Andrew Jackson Clint Boling Marcus Gilbert are all OL I like
gonna be a run on OL and S’s starting in the 2nd round
by Archie Barberio on Jan 8, 2011 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
yeah i also think sherod but i didn't mention him because he's not even in the nate solder category
nate solder is bad, i have seen a lot of times when he doesn’t mantain good balance or when he lets ends to run around him
agree, there will be a run of OL in the second
I can see Pouncey going in the late 1st round.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Quick question:
You’re on the clock for the Cowboys pick in the 2nd Round, let’s that they took Fairley in the 1st Round (I know, in our dreams, but I’m taking a need out of the equation) and you have this combination of guys at the top of your BPA chart:
Rahim Moore, FS.
Marcus Cannon, RT/G.
Ben Iljana, RT/G.
Deunta Williams, SS.
Greg Jones, ILB.
DeAndre McDaniels, SS.
Demarcus Love, RT.
Casey Matthews, ILB.
The BPA is? Are you willing to listen to all the cries about ignoring the OLine if the pick isn’t an OLineman? It’s a tough call.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Yeah I would have to pull the trigger on Moore.
He is a top player at a position of real need. The lack of O-line help would suck, but guards can be picked up in the third or fourth round (which is what Cannon is anyways in my opinion), and Dallas could also find a developmental tackle in those mid-rounds (even Iljana falls in that category). Hopefully FA will give us easier answers to questions like this.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
Dunno
After everything that I’ve seen and read, Ijalana is a very comparable prospect to Vladimir Ducasse who was drafted in the 2nd Round but with one big difference, Ducasse looked like a Guard, Ijalana looks like a RT prospect that could also play G.
With time we will know more, he’s expected to go to the Senior Bowl, so we’re going to read a lot about him.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Yeah and Ducasse hasn't started this year for the Jets.
The reason why is that it takes a good amount of development for an O-lineman coming from such a small school to get to the point that he can take on NFL type prospects. Ijalana would be no different and is not someone I look at as a potential starter-type tackle within his first year. As such, I label him a developmental tackle.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
Depends on our free agency.
Like I said, if we pick up a RT in the draft I wouldn’t mind seeing Holland in at RG. Heck, we pulled Davis against the Titans to put Holland in and he seemed to stabilize our line. Besides, even with Colombo and Davis we were one of the top offenses in the league.
So if we manage to get stop gap RT during free agency then I’d have to go for Moore as well. If we don’t? It would be a hard, hard decision. I guess it depends on what we think of AOA at FS, but more than likely I’d have to pull the trigger on Moore and hope we can trade back into the second round and pick up one of the remaining tackle prospects.
Not really any good FA OTs in this years group.
If we ignore the OT again in the 1rst 2 rounds we doom this team to more years of mediocrity.
This.
We need to draft a solid OT. There are good OGs that can be had in FA, and I’d like to sign one, but I say draft one anyway.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Love.
Of those names I’m interested in him and Cannon, but as things sit at the moment I think our slot in the second might possibly be overdrafting Cannon. So Love it is.
Too early for me to get a really good feel of all this though. I’ll be much more biased after the combine.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Come on, really?
Let me say this again…
With less pass rush than Dallas generated, in 2009 on a very average defense, he had 10 INT’s.
He’s a locker room stud, captain of the team and film room study freak.
RAHIM MOORE
…but he will be gone by then unless he has a rough Combine.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Moore isnt a 2nd rd pick, I dont care what the ranking are as of right now, come April Moore will be a top 15 pick, and yes I would take him 9th overall
because like 5blings said he is a leader, studies film, and is a playmaker
I will go on record and say Moore is a top 15 pick
no way a player of that caliber falls to the 2nd rd, and I cant remember a draft where a Safety wasnt taken in the 1st round
I remember when we took Mike Jenkins over Kenny Phillips, now I thought Jenkins was a steal and can play at a Pro Bowl level, but we have needed Safety help for the longest time
imo S and OL are the biggest holes to fix this offseason, we cannot I repeat cannot go into the 2011 season with mediocre safety play again
every team in our division has playmakers at safety
its disguting because we passed on guys like William Moore ( will use him as a example, but there are so many examples to be used) and now is becoming a playmaker for Atlanta
I wanted Patrick Chung or Louis Delmas in that draft, we traded down and down, instead of trading up and getting at least 1 good player
the grading and value of safetys in the draft room has to be changed, someone better get up out of their chair throw Coca Cola at Jerry Jones, get on top of the table and jump up and down begging to draft a safety early, not in the 4th round
the only safety I will say was a good move was Akwasi, Akwasi has all the skills to be a good safety, and whats interesting is the Cowboys like him at SS
so we got one but we need another, and I dont care if its Moore McDaniel Black Carter Jarrett Lainhart TJ Johnson just get me a godamn safety already
by Archie Barberio on Jan 9, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
So I am confused
Do you want a safety?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
There is no way in hell Moore is a top-15 prospect.
I think the guy could be a good second round pick, but there is a reason he is being seen later and later in this mock drafts.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
Because Bruce Campbell was picked in many mocks last year a a top 10 pick
Don’t get too caught up in mocks, C729.
Moore is the highest rated safety in the class by most scouts and personnel gurus. If he performs poorly at the Combine, he may fall, but if he performs well, don’t be surprised to see him gone around 12-15. Teams looking for his kind of leadership and athletic ability at the Safety position have increased in number by a large margin in the last 5 years.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
It has very little to do with mocks
and much more to do with the fact that I, and those same scouts and personnel gurus you mention, don’t see him as that great of a player (at least not a top-15 player). Sure, he may be the best safety, but I don’t see any team out there that just needs a safety and will add it at any cost. As such, I fully expect him to last into the last 10 picks of the 1st round. I know you love Rahim, but the kid just isn’t a top 15 pick when you consider him relative to the other players in this class.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
The most likely thing is that you're wrong
Us and the people in the net, are the kind of people that look at what have you done for me lately. The NFL doesn’t have thesame point of view, those guys take their whole College careers and may even pull information from High School to make calls on certain players.
Looking at Moore, he had an average Junior year, a good enough year to still be considered the top overall safety in this poor class and a high 2nd Rounder just like players like Nate Allen, Louis Delmas and Patrick Chung… But his Junior year won’t be the only thing that NFL people will review, they will also look at previous years and at circumstances like the talent around him and the coaching staff in place.
He’s also expected to workout well, if he does, I wouldn’t be surprized in the slightest if he’s drafted with a top 15 pick, he wouldn’t be a bigger surprize than when the Bills took Donte Whitner.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
I am still trying to pull a big point out of your writing here.
Nothing you wrote really makes a coherent point other than that apparently NFL people might disagree with my opinion. Yet somehow that means I am “most likely” wrong even though that extra research you talk about could just as easily validate my opinion (especially since you offered up zero points as to why it wouldn’t).
And furthermore, I think the juxtaposition of saying I am “most likely” wrong about Moore not being a top-15 pick and then saying that he is considered a high 2nd rounder is pretty interesting.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
By now, I've seen 6 full games of California this year
Mostly because I really wanted to see more of Cameron Jordan and from what I’ve seen, he’s my guy in the 1st if Fairley and Bowers aren’t on the board.
But I also saw a lot of Moore and the guy had a lot of problems, which is understandable, Jordan and Moore were the best players on that Defense and it was a difference of night and day… From his film of this year, you can actually make a claim that he could be drafted in the 2nd Round, he looked good, but not dominating material.
If you take his whole College career, he’s an easy 1st Round pick.
We will know in a few months.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
yeah I wrote about Cam Jordan
I love him
if we took him 9th overall I would be very very pleased
by Archie Barberio on Jan 9, 2011 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
Watched some film of Rahim Moore and I'm not impressed at all.
He’s got some decent ball skills (that 10 INT season was kind of an outlier FWIW, other than that he’s never even had 4). Other than that he looks pretty meh. Definitely wouldn’t take him if a good O-lineman is still on the board.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I like Moore, but not in the 1rst.
There are a lot of quality S in this class. Can easily pick up one in the 2nd.
he's a first rounder
like I said I like McDaniel Carter Jarrett Lainhart and Black is my guy personally, but after those 6 guys there are basically no safetys left, going to be a run on OL and S starting in the top of the 2nd
by Archie Barberio on Jan 9, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
Really?
Like who?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I would be excited if we got Rahim in the 2nd
but if not, I would also be very happy with Deunta in the 3rd. I think he was a high 2nd before his leg injury, and even though the injury shouldnt keep him out for next season I think he slips enough to be had in the 3rd. Let him and Akawsi compete for one of the safety spots – he is good enough to take it.
Hamlin is a better option than all of those names...
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Mike Hamlin??? Shudder.......
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
lol
seriously no more players named Hamlin or Barron
by Archie Barberio on Jan 10, 2011 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
If we can get Duenta in the 3rd that would be great
Then we can focus on using the 1st & 2nd to fix the RG/RT problem, which includes maybe not drafting one, but trading a pick for a good RT and using the other one for a good, possible starting rookie.
When in doubt, empty your magazine
wouldnt be close
the only safetys worth keeping are Akwasi and Church
every other safety is………………. looking for a nice word here but I cant find one
Sensabaugh is average at best, almost every interception he had was off of overthrows and tips, which are plays he should make
I think I might of saw one pick where he actually made a play and got a jump on the ball
then there is my favorite part about his game, instead of going for the pick, he is big and doofy and runs into the WR or TE, he is trying to make a “big hit” but just runs into the player and falls back
he isnt even a good hitter
at least be one of the two, a ballhawk or a hitter
Sensabaugh is neither, he is a JAG, should of stayed in Jacksonville driving around with a AK-47 in the backseat, which actually happened
Gerald Sensabaugh how I will not miss you
remember when him and TNew got into it? that was funny too, Gerald doesnt like to call things out
ever notice all the confusion in the secondary this year? thats because Ball and Sensabaugh dont have a clue to what is going on or what they are doing, what a bunch of leaders those 2 men are
by Archie Barberio on Jan 9, 2011 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
all time fav Sensabaugh play
a couple vs the Giants
where he stumbles into the sideline after getting his ankles broken by Jacobs and Manningham
embarassing
by Archie Barberio on Jan 9, 2011 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
I'd be willing to bet TNew was calling Sensi out...
TNew knows where he’s supposed to be and who’s supposed to help him. Not sure Sensi ever knows where to be or who to help.
Ball probably has to be pushed on the field -“Dude, defense is on the field. Go out on the green patch in front of your eyes.”
When in doubt, empty your magazine
Mike Jenkins
A lot of fans down on Jenkins, I know he ducked a tackle (or two). But I think he got raw deal this year, with the penalties. For some reason the officials got flag happy on Mike. I see the best CBs in the league, getting away with all sorts of contact. Get these CBs a ball hawk and a hard hitter and the corners will be great.
i agree
We can probably get another year of average/above average play from newman but his speed is finally starting to fail him. Jenkins, if he gets his head back on correctly, could be what revis is for new york for us.
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by Nick Castillo on Jan 11, 2011 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
Jenkins was flagged so much because he was out of position a lot.
That is partly his fault and partly GS for not getting the secondary lined up. That is the biggest let down by our S corp. The inability to lineup our players.
That's on the coaches.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
While Jenkins shouldn't be absolved of all blame, I generally agree with this sentiment.
I think people underestimate how much of an impact having Alan Ball on the field had on the rest of the secondary’s play.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel

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