Rams Vs. Cowboys: Getting Off The Schneid, Times Three
As we prepare for Sunday's home tilt against the Rams, I thought about churning out a "keys to the game" post, but as I looked at the various matchups, I realized--no disrespect to St. Louis fans--that the only way Dallas loses this game is by a peculiarly halloween-esque combination of freakish occurrences. So, rather than keys, here are several storylines I'll be following:
Can Dallas get off the schneid? As the mainstream media has been all-too happy to remind us (and again), the Cowboys last eleven games have been decided by four or fewer points. This has happened for a number of reasons, the most perturbing of which is that they have played down to inferior competition, either losing to or letting other teams crawl back into games. The Washington and Arizona games last season immediately come to mind, and the Lions game featured a similar narrative, if not an equal talent disparity.
The upshot is that the Cowboys, while almost certainly better than they were one year ago, still have to un-learn several ways of being that were allowed to take root under the Phillips administration. The foremost of these is killer instinct. Good teams really enjoy beating inferior competition; they delight in the proverbial "putting their feet on the opponent's throat." Rather than relax when they have a double-digit second half lead, they extend that lead and then find a way to snuff out the other team's fourth-quarter drives.
The 90s Cowboys were masters at this game; they enjoyed being bullies. Again and again, they extended halftime leads over the third and fourth quarters. No coach delights in being a bully more than Bill Belichick. His championship Patriots teams weren't particularly talented, but they never let up. In fact, we saw the benefits of this attitude last Sunday, as Tom Brady and crew made stops and tallied scores when they were needed.
As BTB member Fan in Thick and Thin has argued, winning and losing close games is more or less random, a 50-50 proposition (its no coincidence that the Cowboys have been 5-6 in the last eleven games). As he says, "Winning close games isn’t a sign of fundamental improvement, blowing teams out is..." If Dallas is to make anything of the 2011 season--i.e., escape the doldrums attendant upon hovering around .500--they'll need to tally some blowout wins. There is no more auspicious time to get off the close game schneid than this Sunday.
More storylines and schneids after the jump...
Second and third round draft picks. In recent years, Dallas has drafted quite well in the first round and has actually been at or near the top in rounds 4-7. Where they have struggled is in rounds two and three. Those are top-100 type picks, the sort of player that contribute a legit NFL skill set to a championship roster. From 2005-2009, Dallas' 2nd and 3rd rounders--Kevin Burnett, Anthony Fasano, Jason Hatcher, James Marten, Martellus Bennett, Jason Williams, Robert Brewster--reads like a gallery of under-performance.
The emergence of 2010 second-rounder Sean Lee has offered hope that this horrible trend was being reversed. That said, the two most questionable Dallas choices in the 2011 draft were--you guessed it--second rounder Bruce Carter and third rounder DeMarco Murray. Both were injured for the entirety of training camp and have only very recently returned to sufficient health to hit the field. On Sunday, thanks to Felix Jones' high ankle sprain, we'll see a lot of Murray; hopefully, Carter will dress and we'll see him on special teams. Both are terrific athletes; this young team needs ALL of its young players to get experienced in a hurry. It was in game six last season that Lee returned to the field and began to show promise; I'd love to see both guys score out a similar rookie-season trajectory.
Turnovers (and I don't mean McDonald's apple pies): Jason Garrett has said that a key to winning in the NFL is being on the plus side of the turnover margin. Thus far this season, his charges have seemingly turned a deaf ear to this warning: they are 31st in the league, ahead of only the Eagles, in turnovers per game, at 2.4. They have yet to register fewer than two TOs in any contest this season. The number of turnovers, as we know, is probably the primary contributing factor to the Cowboys record; in several games in which Garrett's boys have notched a significant statistical advantage in terms of yardage, its this, this most important of statistics, that has kept games close (and in fact, served to do the same in two close, 3-turnover losses last season, against the Saints and Cardinals).
So, even though a defense that was notoriously poor at creating turnovers under Wade Phillips is showing significant improvement in that arena (ninth in the league, with 10 total) under Garrett, Dallas finds itself -2 on the season. You know what kind of team finishes in the red in terms of turnover margin? That's right, losing teams. To turn the season around, the Cowboys have to string together several games of 1 or fewer turnovers. If they can do that, they'll exponentially increases their chances of getting off this frustrating 11-game schneid. Sunday wold be a great place to start.
As I suggested in the opening, I don't expect this game to be close; if it is, this team has more problems than any of us have heretofore imagined. What I'll be looking for is how the young Cowboys behave once they get in front. Can they run like Secretariat, going like gangbusters to the final gun, regardless of the score?
Fewer turnovers and a big game by Murray wouldn't hurt...
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re: blowout
This game will be a huge letdown to everyone involved with this team if it isn’t by more than two scores. And you’re right, that’s no disrespect to the effort the Rams will put forth, talent-wise there is no matchup that favors St. Louis.
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Let's finally break this 4 pt gap streak
I forget what it’s like to watch a Dallas Cowboys game without my heart pounding vigorously throughout the game
I don't like statements like that
I don’t like to say a team has to win by X number of points or it’s bad.
If we get up early, run and punt late, let them score in a prevent defense to wear out the game and the game ends 24-17 that’s fine. If we’re locked into a life-and-death struggle and win by a last-play pass-into-double-coverage Dez Bryant touchdown with the score 24-17, yeah, I’ll be worried. Score’s the same, outcome is different.
I expect a good solid game by the Cowboys and I expect them to show their class here.
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Oct 22, 2011 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
giving up a late garbage time TD
and only winning by a score won’t be as bad as a loss, but will not be what this team needs.
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this is setting up like the chiefs in 09
we thought we would win easily but that came down to Miles’ OT heroics
by somebodyquiet on Oct 22, 2011 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Winning cures all
We’ve had a very rough stretch, but a good old fashioned win can set everything in the right direction. Morale is no doubt a bit low with back to back heartbreaking losses, but a solid win can cure everything and right the ship so we (hopefully) can have a nice win streak
The Cowboys are due for a game where everything comes together
And here it is.
Smiles ahead
by accidental innuendo on Oct 22, 2011 6:27 PM CDT reply actions
This really should be like when the Rames visited Dallas in 2007
i.e., a 35-7 Cowboys win, 500+ yards of offense, holding the Rams to under 200 yards offense with their only score being a fluke play, etc.
What’s the line? It’s gotta be Dallas favored by double digits.
the line is now at -13.5 dallas.
it was 11 during the middle of the week. but after bradford was announced that he will sit this game out, it now has jumped.
by Chris Ivan22 on Oct 22, 2011 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
do it in a teaser where you can adjust the spread
my friend did a huge teaser, all he needs now is Packers Cowboys to win, Cowboys by 8 1/2
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
very astute advice
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
just saying
with a teaser you can adjust the spread down to 8/12, way easier
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 2:23 AM CDT up reply actions
most definitely
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Dallas won't face Bradford...
which may not be a good thing. Feeley has payed well against Dallas.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Is this the guy that argued
the fact is if a team allows the game to be close they no longer control their own fate.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Sep 29, 2011 10:46 AM CDT on TMQB: On close games
Where’s he get these “allowed” “facts” from? Facts like that make the rest suspect.
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allowed, times three
allowed the other team to score in the fourth quarter when a stop would have ensured a win (Pats, Jets, 2010 Saints)
allowed the other team to get back into a game they had no business being in (2010 ’Skins, Lions)
allowed a crap team they should defeat handily to build an early lead (2010 Cards).
Good teams don’t allow the other squad to make these plays. They impose their will.
by rabblerousr on Oct 22, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
yes Rabble! yes! finally a man of truth!
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I think tan disagrees , Chia
something about the word “allowed” he objects to. Tan, if the Boys lose ( doubtful) will it be a team loss, or will you have to look at the tape?
" Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. "
Samuel Beckett
It'll read...
… “Cowboys W”, “Cowboys L” or " Cowboys T" looking back at the record, so tell me what you think that says, please? I say team, win, lose or tie. And if we get to the point where it’s pure W/L, I’ll say the same but with one less possibility of outcome. And always hope for this team, regardless of incarnation, to earn a W.
Film’s for figuring fixes, win, lose or tie. Opponent’s film’s for finding flaws.
Asked and answered, stu?
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It says team loss if they lose, team win etc.
From having read your comments through out this season, I concluded that you believe in team wins and losses. You are not one to focus on any individual(s) for being responsible for the win or loss. In fact it seems you are very committed to this belief. Interestingly, you say that film is for figuring fixes. That presupposes that mistakes made by players, possibly resulting in a loss, can be fixed. People not of your frame of mind about “TEAM” may point out that by fixing the “individual” problem may change the result of the game. This, I think, explains why fans try and find out who made the mistakes that resulted in a loss.
I apologize if the query came off as pointed. I WAS having some fun, having just read your exchange with RR.
" Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. "
Samuel Beckett
Is the individual "problem"...
… the one that put a particular individual or individuals at that particular point in time in that particular situation or the one before it or it itself? Is it on the player or his preparation? On the coach or the player’s execution? On random elements? Where’s the single determinant factor of the challenge to be addressed in changing the Past? Are you sure you want to?
Yes, mistakes can be fixed. Trick’s determining the root cause. Fixing symptoms is not a cure.
I’m not interested in “may” when it comes to solutions. Solution’s have no “may”. Solutions require elimination of error. Period.
You’ve nothing to apologize for, stu. This’s all fun, the serious, the laughs, the wild-ass guessing, the perspectives, everything, even the gripes and whining (though less so, but apparently necessary for many a fan).
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Let's pursue this a little further
You say fixing symptoms is not a cure. But what does a coaching staff have to go on when things are not going as intended? As I see it, there can only be a “may” until the fix has been proven successful. An example – too many fumbles from RB #1. Replace him (the fix) with RB#2. Fumbles deccrease by 75%. I would conclude that the “may” became the “cure”. This is what each and every team does constantly throughout the season; tweaking the team in various ways (the mays) to arrive at a unit that plays better than the week before, than the week before, than the week before, ad infinatum.
" Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. "
Samuel Beckett
Yep, goes on plenty, close to all the time...
… if not all the time. Not saying it doesn’t, shouldn’t, nothing of the sort. Guinea-pig guesswork or a dozen monkeys pounding keyboards’ll eventually produce the desired result too. Not equating your “may” changing of players exactly to that, just broadly concepted. The filmwork, play analysis, player critique and all esle that feeds into coaching and player preparation are indeed part of addressing the challenge, either as permanently as can be expected in this game where the next play the lockdown player could be done career-wise or bandaged, “get-us-to-the-half” substitutions and “next man up, next starter up” becomes the very truth of the game/player dynamic.
One thing’s virtually certain, while this game lasts, there’ll always be a solution to find, a challenge to be met. Individually and teamwise.
Trick’s in determining the root cause, addressing it. Film work, working with the resources at hand, acquiring others more suited, the works, it all fits into being better today than yesterday.
It’s a combination of one and group, of team and individual, as it must be for they are each dependent on the other in this game.
I just won’t point a finger at an individual and say that person won or lost by themselves. Won’t decry and won’t deify. In a given instance, they may not have fulfilled their responsibilities as adequately as they may have, they may not be “up to it”, the constructive criticism and instruction and preparation to fulfill those responsibilites may not be “taking” and they’ll need to be replaced for the good of the team. Happens all the time. Will eventually to all, either by their choice or others as Time rolls on.
And the reverse is also true. Some go down, mistakes and all, as heroes of the Past. There’s a hall and ring for some. For others, naught but the memory of others, even if only in one instance, be it “good” or “bad”. Somebody wins, somebody loses, each play, each miniscule interaction, each game.
But for the eventual, inevitable change Time rolling on brings. It’s constant.
So, I’ll just drink it in, enjoy it, even in frustration over little things, while Time permits.
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Allowed's arrogance and fact-ignornace of the fact...
… there’s another team on the field. A team out to win too.
You want to be ’allowed" to win all the time, you play with yourself. Otherwise learn how to lose and learn from losing, not whine about it. Not look for and make excuses.
Allows is arrogant, fact-ignorant BS.
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This isn't about BEING allowed, but not allowing--i.e., shutting down the other team and imposing their will.
Not quite sure I follow the logic here—how not allowing other teams to do what they want—which is what good teams do—is about not making excuses…?
There is an interesting dichotomy in the way we look at "allowed."
When we win, some of the Cowboy “haters” will say that the other team “gave” us the game.
Yet, when we loose, our own fan base will say that we “gave” them the game, and not that they “won” it.
Sometimes when we lose, it is not to look for fault on our side EVERY time, but that the other team just might be better or played a better game that day.
This is true
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Good managers/coaches
“look to fix the problem.”
While bad managers/coaches/fans “look to fix the blame.”
What Tan is getting at:
He’s speaking out against the sentiment that seems to be brewing this week, that Dallas should run over the Rams like a freight train, and that this is what we as Cowboys fans are expecting to happen, and that there will be hell to pay if that doesn’t happen.
He’s cautioning us that the Rams play in the NFL as well, and like Dallas, they had high hopes for this season. Unlike Dallas, they haven’t won a game, and will be desperate this week.
He’s also reminding us of a age old life lesson, in the game of life we can’t be great until we’ve lost, because you learn from failure.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Now if only I spoke as clearly as you.
Though, the cautioning against hubris apparently didn’t take. Looks like that quote’ll be coming in handy yet again.
Cry 'Havoc!'
So when the Cowboys get beat, it's because they failed in "not allowing" the other team to win?
Consider this in addition to the comments others have made in this thread which express components of the overall reason I remain adamant the comment you initially took issue with my having quoted is just plain wrong. That being the “the fact is if a team allows the game to be close they no longer control their own fate.” And the tendancy being carried through yours in support or defence(?) of it.
Perhaps you’ve not looked into how that type of expression sounds to others, to how people express themselves is perceived by others. To how “allows” comes across. Maybe you don’t care how it comes across. And I’m definitely not saying that my expressing myself is without flaw.
allow
v. al·lowed, al·low·ing, al·lows. v.tr.
1. To let do or happen; permit.
2. To permit the presence of.
How kind of the Cowboys to allow other teams to play with them. Aren’t they just so great in permitting them the honor of even being on the same field? Permitting them to keep the score close or even, wow, how gracious can you get, but permitting, actually letting them score more. Yeah, that’s some kinda fantastic goodwill they’ve got consenting to allowing other teams to dare show that the Cowboys are not the be-all and end-all of football perfection. Actually lowering themselves to everyone else’s level.
Consenting? Sounds more like condescending, to me. Arrogantly so.
Cut me a break. And cut the hubris down a tad. Just using the word “allows” reeks of subconscious entitlement and elitist attitude. At least, I hope it’s subconscious when uttered by Cowboys fans and not the alternative, which’d be extremely disconcerting and disappointing. Sounds akin to some of another fanbase that graced our site with their presence not that many weeks ago, honoring us with their presence among us lowly non-guess-who fans. Sounds like the type of stereotypical Cowboys fan that many outside this fanbase have commented on for many many years, that many of our brethern come across as arrogantly smug, pompous know-it-all’s or numbskulls. And guess what? They’re often right, sadly and sorry to say. If one wants to be that type, come across as such, so be it, but he or she can take their fanny away from this seat, please, regardless of team.
And when, not if, they (the Cowboys) fail to live up to that bizarre and unrealistic expectation of perfection, the finger-pointing, blame-game-playing excuses get made by some in both eye-balling and number-crunching camps. This “allows the game to be close” comment being a prime example in my eyes. Oh, we won, lost or tied because we “allowed” the game to be close? That’s a level of presumptuous nonsense that boggles my mind. Claiming it as being fact, that’s a level of nonsense on the speaker’s part I’ll not even get into here. Read nonsense there as “lacking in sense” or “non-sense”.
btw, this “Not quite sure I follow the logic here—how not allowing other teams to do what they want—which is what good teams do—is about not making excuses…?” doesn’t make sense to me. Explain what you mean to say in this phrasing and I’ll see if I can answer your question.
Or asked and answered, rabble?
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your way too deep for me
if we had a cup of coffee I would be lost in 10 seconds just yessing you to death
lol
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 2:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Tan is by the most hilarious commenter. I love how he can quickly make sense of it all in that style of his.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
lol so true
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
He's BTB's Socrates.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
LOL na he is deeper, Plato
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
yes it is allowed
by not playing disciplined and making mistakes and letting up. That is how we allow ourselves to lose to teams we should beat.
We should beat the Rams by at least 2 TDs. We are that much more talented then they are; especially with their starting QB out.
by burmafrd1944 on Oct 23, 2011 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions
This team better win by 17-21 points, being favored by 14.
If they win by 10 or less it will be a poor effort.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Oct 22, 2011 7:09 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Or maybe they just aren't that good.
they have played down to inferior competition,
If they lose Sunday Chia will be in full blown draft mode by 6 pm.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
Two theories
This is a bad team that plays up to good teams (just not good enough to win)
This is a good team that plays down to inferior competition and plays up to the level of equal/superior competition of good teams, but isn’t able to close out the games and win sometimes…
The second option makes more sense, and is more optimistic. I’ll roll with it.
This team reminds me of the 2007 and 2008 New Orleans Saints.
A team that could move the ball between the 20s but really struggled to score touchdowns in the redzone, run the football, and win the turnover margin. But man, could that team sling the ball all over the place. Brees threw for 5000+ yards in 2008…Romo is on pace to have a similar season.
You’ll notice once they were able to secure those areas up, they went on to win the Super Bowl in 2009.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Oct 22, 2011 7:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
or you'll just try and pretend like your being a realist
and just come out and do a full blown bashing on your “supposed” favorite team. just calling it like i see it.
by Chris Ivan22 on Oct 22, 2011 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
My money's on... - Both. Simultaneously.
Oh, oh, and plenty of pitchforks and torches, wild rantings in the mob calling for crucifiction, hanging, dismemberment, detonation, death and destruction. Not to mention the wailing and whining hordes of mice leaping from their squeaky wheels, scampering around, bashing their owner’s skulls senseless from the inside-out.
Jerry, Jason and Tony – the lynching trifecta all in one grand evening, so much so echoes will carry through the week, the season, even beyond.
Maybe we can burn their crosses and toast marshmellows while they writhe in agony for what they’ve caused so many (never have so few hurt so many so often – wah-wah-wah), while we try and figure out what to do given that they’re “outta the way”.
Cry 'Havoc!'
I love your style Tan.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Oct 22, 2011 7:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I gotta tell ya...
If the Cowboys lose to the Rams (No offense Rams fans), then I will be head in line of the mob.
I’ll be spreading the pitch on the torches, and sharpening my farm implements.
And then I’ll be watching the Eagles game on Sunday.
I’m a lifer.
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
Ah, someone who gets it. Emotional game.
Players and fans alike.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Oct 22, 2011 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
pitchforks? Im breaking AK's and molitov cocktails, VIVA REVOLUTION
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions
if we lose dude, there should be pitchforks
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Where are we staging our Shay's Rebellion at? Valley Ranch?
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
This team hasn't played down to anyone this year
Playing down to the level of an opponent is a Wade Phillips problem.
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Oct 22, 2011 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions
because we've had the hardest schedule in the league
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by InkedKing on Oct 23, 2011 1:37 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
because we've had the hardest schedule in the league
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by InkedKing on Oct 23, 2011 1:37 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
is there ever a time when Chia ISN'T in full-blown draft mode...?
by rabblerousr on Oct 22, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
When a player he said sucks does well
Or vice versa. Then he pulls a Warren Sapp.
My most recent fanpost:
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2011/10/2/2464242/sean-lee-its-all-in-the-helmet
by CotySaxman on Oct 22, 2011 11:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
ouch
when did I do this? because if your talking draft I still hate Nate Solder and he did will
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Sensabaugh comes to mind
Er, Sensaballs… But it wasn’t meant to be personal. I just wanted to use Warren Sapp as a verb.
My most recent fanpost:
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2011/10/2/2464242/sean-lee-its-all-in-the-helmet
by CotySaxman on Oct 23, 2011 8:16 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
hey dude I have showed Sensaball mad love this year!
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Yea, you 180d. Which if fine, I always liked him
So now we agree on him being pretty good. I was referring to Sapp when Romo was invited on camera and he switched positions. It’s not quite the same situation, and I was hoping for a laugh at Sapp’s expense…one of the greatest moments in Romo media history.
My most recent fanpost:
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2011/10/2/2464242/sean-lee-its-all-in-the-helmet
by CotySaxman on Oct 23, 2011 10:38 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I still hat'em though.
Tron will be better long term.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Oct 23, 2011 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I hate Soldier Solder
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
since when did you pipe your chest up?
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions
touche! touche Rabble!
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions
oh you know it
if we lose, by 6 PM I will be in full blown draft mode and I hope it isn’t a QB I am looking at
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions
speaking of which, we should go to the draft next year
head up a BTB contingent…
by rabblerousr on Oct 23, 2011 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions
really? we should do that
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I live in NY so I am down
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions
yesssss
that would be awesome dude
seriously, I can take the train and get off right by there
OCC flies in from Germany? like Die Hard! whaaaaaaat
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions
If you’re going to have a German fly in, you’d better not have the event in a skyscraper. Otherwise, all hell might break loose. And John McClane won’t be around to help this time.
by One.Cool.Customer on Oct 23, 2011 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Hmm
I pegged you for simon. Im up to the challenge. You fill up the 5 gal jug then dump that into the 3 gal jug, you then dump out the 3 gal jug and poor the remaining 2 gal from the 5gal jug back into the 3 gal jug. You then fill up the 5 gal jug and poor the 1 gal left into the 3 gal jug. How do you like me now
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I always thought that the one German guy who McClain kills on the roof
the guy with the blonde hair, mad serious
I thought he was the guy eating the candy bar, turns out it was an Asian guy rolling with a German outfit, weird
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
BA HAHAHAHAHA
ever better OCC, fly in to JFK all black and Matrixed out, soon as you get off the plane say in a deep German accent “I am here for dee draft”!!!!!!!
that would be boss
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Immigration Official: Sir, what is the purpose of your visit?
German Dude: Fear The Star.
by One.Cool.Customer on Oct 23, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
hahahahahahaha
that’s even better
lmfao if I was in line and heard you say that I would laugh so hard
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
business or pleasure?
the star is both
what?
fear the star
sir?
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
... all while learning to Fear the Star...
… the US Marshal’s, the team of ’em on the flag…
The one on the cavity probe.
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Nope, butt...
…all cowboys say Yippee-Kai-Yay.
Cowboys that’re Cowboys fans louder ‘n more so, so whether it be skyscraperer or seig-hieler, y’all best behave. Track record ain’t that great, as I recollect.
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you better not flake out
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Im in PA
And my buddies and I have always talked about going up there, would be fun especially with a rookie wage scale now we might be in for a tradefilled day!
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Ham you should go dude
Im serious about this
imagine us teamed up at the draft? that would be sick
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I loved going to the HOF induction
So I am sure the draft will be just as good. We will have to talk about it in March.
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Were u on the field at the Hof induction ?
I was when Irvin was inducted.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Oct 23, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Naw I got bleacher seats because I wasn't sure how the field was going to be
I was there for EMMITT! So I got to see all 3 of them in person! Didn’t get to meet them but literally 15yds away tops from all 3.. best moment ever
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Depends what pick we have.
Maybe we should go to Arlington to “help” Jerry.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Oct 23, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I would kick down that war room door like Arnold from Terminator
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
An intriguing idea, I just moved to New York this summer
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Oct 23, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
you have to go
seriously
we can all fight first, then we can all hang out, then fight, then drink, then fight!
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
I think you and I are on the same page about most things these days
There’d only be fighting if Mensa showed up, haha
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Oct 23, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
we can organize the biggest Cowboy Turnout ever haha
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Blue I might surprise you.
Lots of Dallas fans hate me initally. Once they get to know me and where I am coming from and how I see the team, Their opinion usually changes. Hard to convery that over a computer.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Oct 23, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
convey
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Oct 23, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Speak only for myself, butt...
… got no dislike for ya, got where you were coming from early on, find amusement in you, bit of regret your expression of your thoughts is skewed to neagtivity perhaps, but we each have our ways.
I’m just a cat playing with a scampering mouse and his squeaky wheel.
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It ain't hard tans.
Jerry makes it harder than it needs to be. The Wade years hardened me like no others. It’s not just the now either.
IS this team prepared for life without Romo ? Why wait till he is gone to have a replacement in house ? Having to retool 3/5 of the o line in one year speaks volumes. Silence at the top would be golden. Leadership would be platinum. Jerry has this down to a discombobulated science.
When does it change ? No slack for losing the 3 games they have. None. Coaching has been undeniably bad. It’s not a bash , it’s truth.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Oct 23, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
tans are you Willard ?
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Oct 23, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Mouse ain't a rat, Algernon
And yeah, he does, at times. And it’s harder than you think, pacing the sidelines. Much easier from your paying seat high in the stands or out in tv-land though. All the easy answers there. Especially looking in that rearview mirror.
Maybe read this, as you’re apparently under a mistaken impression. Maybe all pesky 3 of ’em.
Don’t worry, little buddy, I’m makin’ a note right now so’s when I’m gone someone’ll tend your grave.
P.S. please if you get a chanse put some flowrs on Algernons grave in the bak yard.
Any questions?
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LMAO. Epic. One reason for bringing up Willard.
Were you old enough to remember. Question answered.
It’s the who that have been pacing the sidelines. Really , it ain’t hard.
Thanx for caring .
And the sheep go Baaaaah.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Oct 23, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, yeah, I know...
Jerry, Jason, Tony, this, that and the other thing. Notice it was Jerry a comment back, now you’ve scampered over to another gripe.
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Awwww my feelings are hurt.
LOL smh. Step up son.
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by football mensa on Oct 22, 2011 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
If he steps up...
… it’ll be even further over your head being as it’s usually up your butt. Just standing there he’s got the height advantage.
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The villain gets the dame.
LOL , too ez !
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by football mensa on Oct 22, 2011 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
James Simmons
Is right over……there————>
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
hey Rabble
show your boy some love, I wrote a 3rd round history fan post, believe it was FPOTW or a honorable mention (when can I drop off my bribe money for FPOTW awards?)
I said Murray will break the curse, or I hope so anyway
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 12:18 AM CDT reply actions
I was just messing around
that post was good though
heck the last two I wrote I think I killed
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey guys just thought I'd get your opinion on something
Despite all his injury and stamina worries, is it just me or is Dez REALLY fitting into the team? I see videos and clips of the games and whenever he comes up he’s fully pumping with energy and totally rallying other players on the sidelines. I always knew he had amazing raw talent but I didn’t think he’d take on such a ‘leadership’ role so early in his career. Is it fair to say that he’s a leader on this team?
If something in sports is the worst thing that's ever happened to you, you've lived a pretty good life.
He's the vocal leader Irvin was. I hope he takes the next step in being like Mike by being the toughest player from Monday-Sunday
This means, he needs to be the most competitive dude and hardest worker during practice, camp, and OTAs.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
ever here of the 3 year WR theory?
in their 3rd year thats where WR’s usually take off, its not always proven though
I expect him to actually learn routes next year, then I think he has a Andre Johnson 90 catch 15 TD year
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 2:22 AM CDT up reply actions
I subscribe to the 3 year WR theory whole heartedly.
In Michael Irvin’s case, he spent 1988, 1989, and 1990 as developmental seasons b/c the team didn’t know what was the best offense to run with him and Aikman in the passing game. That was partly the fault of being made to have Mike Shula run the offense through 1990. When Norv came in 1991, he figured out how best to make Aikman to Irvin a mainstay.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Yes he was. That was the price Jimmy had to pay to lure Dave Wandstadt from the Dolphins to run the defense.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
3 year WR theory dude is real
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Yea I knpw all about it. Still vs the Pats Dez would have mauled the smaller cb.
There is no defense for not trying the fade.
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by football mensa on Oct 23, 2011 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions
mensa I dont get it
I think the fade to Dez is 4-4
Giants game, Lions game, Lions game, and there was one other fade I think that he scored on, or its 3-3 either way its 100 percent
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Yup !!
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Oct 23, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
What is it you don't understand about Schrödinger's cat?
If you do, explain it to your friend there. If not, time to hit the books. Then, perhaps, we can get into these alternate realities some keep slipping into.
That road’s forked, done, back there. Whether we got forked favorably or just plain forked, it’s done. Timeline’s set, being wasted with what-if’s.
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My theory regarding the fork in the road is like many others....take it !
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by football mensa on Oct 23, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
easily my favorite poem of all time
didn’t even have to click the link(though I did) to know what you are talking about……
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
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by I am Ironman!!! on Oct 23, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
he works hard in practice give him that
is he a good route runner? no I can admit that
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 2:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't get me wrong, I love Dez.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
I love Dez
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
leader at 22
but showing energy and rallying players isnt a sign of a leader to most on here
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 2:21 AM CDT up reply actions
The reason most people are apprehensive is because like T.O. and Keyshawn pretended to be leaders by doing that as well.
They forget Michael Irvin was the vocal leader who rallied the guys on the sidelines.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
You think people forgot that? Seriously?
Comparing the two’s borderline silly. Different guys, different circumstances. I’ve as much hope for this one as that one. If he pans out that well, we’ll all be pleased, hyper and detractor, both blinded at the outer limits.
Some of these hypers are just that. Hyper. Same the the nay-sayers.
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Dez needs to mature
and learn the complete playbook and run his routes as they should before he can be a real leader.
he needs to run crisp routes I totally agree
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by Archie Barberio on Oct 23, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
How about Miles? He needs to focus.
He thinks about the run before securing the catch…he knows he has to get back on Sportscenter to get a new celebrity girlfriend.
My most recent fanpost:
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2011/10/2/2464242/sean-lee-its-all-in-the-helmet
by CotySaxman on Oct 23, 2011 10:45 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Miles was a huge culprit last week. That's exactly the kind of things that bother me.
It’s always someone gagging. Why can’t they just make a play ? It’s the loser element. Seems one player every week will step up and be the goat. It’s expected now days.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Oct 23, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions

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