Cowboys @ Redskins Review: Whither The Pass Rush?
Sunday's Redskins game was a good-news, bad-news affair. This was particularly true on defense, where the 'Boys were very stout against the run, allowing a paltry 2.5 yards per rush (check out O.C.C.'s post on PFF's grades to see who was responsible for that). On the other hand, they appeared to struggle mightily against the pass. It wasn't that they gave up record-setting yardage totals (289 yards isn't horrible by today's NFL standards); rather, the Cowboys struggled to generate what I'd like to call "real pressure"--forcing Washington quarterback Rex Grossman either to 1) move out of the pocket; 2) pull the ball back down; or 3) force a hurried or errant throw.
I found the lack of pressure a bit mystifying. Defensive coordinator Rob Ryan was overheard pregame, declaring his plan to attack Washington's anemic offensive line, a unit that had given up ten sacks to Buffalo. In particular, he intimated that he was going to run a lot of stunts and games designed to exploit the right side of guard Chris Chester and tackle Jammal Brown. In watching the tape, however, I caught nary a stunt; most rushers took clear lanes--probably to avoid being gouged by the 'Skins running game. Moreover, I only rarely noted some kind of line game or the use of fire zones to confuse Grossman and Co.
In fact, I rarely noted any pressure at all, especially after the first quarter. Indeed, this was such a problem that my distinct impression, as I erroneously wrote in my post-game "quick take," was that Rob Ryan chose to rush only three guys a frustratingly high percentage of the time. In reviewing the game, however, this proved not to be the case. Although Ryan usually chose to rush only four, he "played prevent" on a mere three pass attempts. Apparently, theol' eyeball test isn't the most objective measuring stick. What could have led ol' Rabble's usually reliable eyes so far afield? So, what gives? Why was I so deceived? This post will attempt to unravel this mystery, the "Case of the Missing Pass Rush."
More musings after the jump...
Before moving on to why the rush seemed nonexistant, lets review the different different looks Ryan threw at the Redskins. Including plays that resulted in sacks, penalties and quarterback runs, Washington ran a total of 48 passing plays, 38 of which made the official record. Looking at all of these gives us a pretty clear sense of what Ryan's pressure plan was. Lets look at how many guys he sent and how often he sent them:
- three rushers: four times
- four rushers : 23 times
- five rushers: 16 times
- six rushers: three times
- seven rushers: twice.
Clearly, Ryan wanted to play it pretty close to the vest; on 39 of 48 possible pass plays, he rushed four or five--and his packages weren't particularly exotic. Although Ryan didn't deploy his guys in a traditional 3-4 most of the game, those four or five were most often drawn from the usual suspects: down linemen and outside linebackers.
I found these numbers to be interesting, particularly in light of who the Cowboys were playing. Over the course of his career, Rex Grossman has demonstrated that he's a very streaky passer. He can be be excellent, particularly on deep passes, as he was at the beginning of the Bears' super bowl season in 2006. On the other hand, he is capable of the killing mistake, particularly when under duress. Indeed, time has shown that the key to defending Grossman that he's particularly susceptible to pressure. Notice what happened on the five plays in which the Cowboys sent six or more rushers at him:
- second drive, fifth play: On a 3rd and 8, Ryan deploys a formation with three down linemen (including DeMarcus Ware) and Anthony Spencer standing at the line. On the snap, Sean Lee and Abrah Elam blitz. With the middle of the pocket collapsing at him, Grossman throws off target to Gaffney, incomplete.
- third drive, third play: On another 3rd and 8, Ryan offers a formation with two down linemen, Spencer standing at the line and Ware moving around, ultimately moving in between NT Ratliff and LDE Hatcher. At the snap, Lee and Elam again blitz, although Elam's blitz seems largely intended to engage the right guard: as he soon peels off, covering the 'Skins running back as he goes into a delayed pattern. Again feeling interior pressure Grossman over throws Gaffney on the sideline, incomplete.
- last drive in regulation, seventh play: Coming back from the two-minute warning, Ryan decided to dial up some pressure on a 2nd and 11. Again, he goes with the three down linemen, on of them Spencer, with Ware standing opposite RT Brown. On the snap, both ILBs, Lee and Bradie James, blitz the "A" gaps, on a cross. Grossman, forced to throw quickly, hits Stallworth over the middle for a gain of nine.
- same drive, three plays later: After a penalty on Scandrick and a short pass to Washington RB Roy Helu, Ryan decides to send some more pressure, again from the three-down, with Ware standing set. This time, he sends Lee up the middle and Scandrick and Church from the edges, for a total of seven. With pressure in his face, Grossman throws before his target, David Anderson, has even made his break. Incomplete.
- final snap of the Redskins' overtime drive: After getting gouged, and with Washington in field goal range, Ryan realizes he needs to get pressure by any means necessary, so he dials up the seven-man blitz2nd and 12. Ryan deploys three down linemen, with Ware standing. At the snap, Scandrick, Lee and Church come, Grossman is hurried, but manages a quick pass to Gaffney, for a gain of five.
In five "plus" blitzes, the Redskins gained a paltry 14 yards. And, on the few times (mostly in the first quarter) when 4 and 5-man pressure was effective, Grossman was especially ineffective.
For some reason, however, Ryan appeared to be tentative about bringing the heat. What I don't know is why. Did he devise a less risky scheme figuring that the Cowboys didn't need to fear Washington's aerial attack? Did he determine that whatever blitzes he called weren't going to get home so, rather than get burned, he decided to dial up the pressure only when things got desperate? Or was his primary concern the Washington running game, such that he wanted above all for his linemen to maintain lane integrity? The answer probably is a combination of these; whatever the case, there wasn't much consistent "real pressure" on Sunday.
Watching the game unfold, I was reminded of last season's defensive troubles. I think its important to recall these, as Ryan has this defense playing well enough that we often forget that he's working with the same players who recently gave up franchise-worst numbers in passing yards and points allowed. As I have argued many times (are you tired of it yet?) in these pages, this was more a product of poor pass rush that it was bad secondary play in 2010. With a failing pass rush, Wade Phillips began to dial up the pass rush heat, with little effect. Eventually, he was rushing six on almost every down, leaving his secondary exposed. And exposed it was.
Then, as now, one of the primary problems seems to be that the Cowboys only consistent pass rusher is Ware. Since the New England contest--and including sacks registered in that game--the Cowboys have tallied 13 sacks, nine of which belong to number 94. History's great pass rushing teams have multiple guys who can consistently beat single coverage and get to the quarterback. Indeed, the point of blitzing for those teams is often to free up these lead dogs for one-on-one matchups, which they will often win. On the Cowboys, other than Ware, who qualifies as such a guy? Both Spencer and Butler are good for an occasional sack, but are invisible for long stretches. Hatcher ? Every once in a while, but nowhere near enough to be a difference maker. Ratliff? I love his game, but he's no Leon Lett, who collapsed the pocket play after play in the mid-90s.
Indeed, I believe this lack of interior pressure on Sunday was the the key to my mistaken thinking re: three-man rushes. As the above play descriptions suggest, on plays in which Grossman saw pressure (i.e., it was in his face), he was largely unsuccessful. In O.C.C.'s ratings post, he offers numbers that suggest the Cowboys did a fairly good job pressuring Grossman. I think this is true of the edge rushers, who frequently forced him to step up in the pocket. Too often, however, there was plenty of stepping-up room because, whether by execution or design, Ratliff and Co. were setting up camp at the line.
This was only one game, but my mispercetion prompted me to ask and answer a couple of questions. The first of these: when do the Cowboys get their sacks? To use a baseball analogy: do they hit their home runs with runners on base, or are they getting a lot of solo shots that, while impressive, do less damage? Let's take a look: Dallas has 26 sacks on the year. They have collected 9 on first down, nine on second, seven on third down and one (against the Rams) on fourth. While sacks on early downs are certainly useful, its the third and fourth down sacks, the ones that stop drives, that are noteworthy. Against the Jets, for example, Ware sacked Mark Sanchez on a 2nd and 1, for a loss of six. On the next play, Sanchez hit Dustin Keller for a gain of 17, thus effectively negating the sack.
Considering how often teams pass on third down, I'd have to say that the Cowboys' 8 sacks on 3rd and 4th down is pretty poor. To be fair, it should be noted that two first- or second-down strip-sacks, by Danny McCray against the NYJ and by Spencer to close out the first Redskins game, figure as drive-stoppers...
More important are drive-stoppers in close games. Seven of the above ten have come in the six Cowboys games decided by four or fewer points, one in each game, save for the Lions contest, in which Dallas was held sackless. That's a fairly even spread, which suggests that the 'Boys are good for about one drive-ending sack a game. If that's the case, then for them to have a dominant pass rush, they'd almost certainly need to occur in the second half, preferably in the fourth quarter--in "clutch time."
Early in the season, this was indeed the case; against the Jets, McCray's big play and a huge Spencer sack on 3rd and 10 killed fourth-quarter Jets drives. The following week, both Hatcher and Ratliff made crucial late-game sackeroonies (Rat's was on second down, but during the 'Niners lone OT possession). In week three, Spencer's strip sack ended the game. Since then, however, only Butler's overtime "sack" of Grossman the play before Gano missed his overtime FG attempt might qualify as a key, "clutch time" quarterback bagging. Perhaps what's most perturbing, therefore, is not the number of sacks the Cowboys register, which is respectable, but the fact that they don't tend to get them when it matters most.
I'll end with this final--and perhaps most disturbing--thought: its in clutch time when the best players have to step up. Notice that not a single of the above clutch sacks belongs to Ware. Is this because he's being double- and triple-teamed when the going gets rough? Perhaps, but Washington's possession in regulation, when a sack would have sealed the victory, is telling. On a twelve-play drive during which he posed nary a threat to the 'Skins signalcaller, Ware was doubled exactly...once.
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After reading this
I do wonder if we have enough pass rushers for Ryan’s scheme to be successful.
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
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I want to see the Bruce-Lee combo blitz
(Thanks Chia)
"....the Cowboy way...." (Head Coach, Jason Garrett)
I want to see it myself!
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Nov 22, 2011 11:59 PM CST up reply actions
indeed, this was such a problem that my distinct impression, as I erroneously wrote in my post-game “quick take,” was that Rob Ryan chose to rush only three guys a frustratingly high percentage of the time. In reviewing the game, however, this proved not to be the case. Although Ryan usually chose to rush only four, he “played prevent” on a mere three pass attempts. Apparently, the ol’ eyeball test isn’t the most objective measuring stick.
nice work, not relying on your initial impression but testing to make sure it is in fact accurate.
For God and country - Geronimo
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Nov 22, 2011 4:35 PM CST reply actions
Who do I owe it to.....none other than Tan
eye-balling = eye-bawling
"....the Cowboy way...." (Head Coach, Jason Garrett)
Eye-bawling 'cuza rab's query
Whither’s titular query’s supposed answer’s wither within the article’s content.
Cry 'Havoc!'
Uhhh yeah
I get the English language, rab.
wither = To lose freshness; to become shrunken or wrinkled from age or disease.
Whither’s titular query’s supposed answer’s wither within the article’s content.
in other words:
The title’s query as to “where did it go” has a proposed answer in the article of it having diminished from past days.
And that causes me to eye-bawl, in other words, to weep for my poor beloved Cowboys.
I even comprehend what I read.
Cry 'Havoc!'
It is now glaringly obvious that we need another consistent pass rusher
who would have thought we’d miss Greg Ellis so much? Whether that pressure comes from the DL or LBs, we need more of it, and consistently. If our OL hadn’t been such a mess, I would lament the non-tradeup attempt for Von Miller.
Trading up to get Miller would have cost next year's #1 and this year's 1, 2, and 4.
No thank you.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Gimmee, gimmee, gimmee
More, more, more. No I want a new toy. This one’s not shiny. Wahhh…
Damm the cost.
Cry 'Havoc!'
My main point is that pass rush is a huge need for this team
if it weren’t for the OL mess, it would have been the biggest need this past offseason, and frankly it is still a big need. But we give up critical drive after critical drive with our anemic pass rush.
there’s nothing shiny about it. It is simply the current biggest need on the team. Without it we will not consistently compete deep in the playoffs, or in the regular season against good offensive teams.
Yep.
First things first. Unfortunately, this franchise dug itself one helluva deep hole over the years. Come draft 2012 addressijng the pass rush may well be a top-3 priority. We’ll see. And if it is, but not addressed, there’s another spadeful.
Cry 'Havoc!'
It's not as if we ignored LB in the Draft
If anything, we over-drafted at the position and have little to show for it because most of our picks sucked. I place that squarely at the feet of WP, who apparently put a lot more trust in instinct than in metrics. And oh, BTW Eric Walden is becoming a stud for GB
I don't make mistakes...just understandable bad choices
Since the Cowboys would have lost Tyron and Tyron is going to be great. That wouldn’t have been a good trade.
But If the Cowboys had been selecting something like 14 or 15 then you make that trade.
by Jonathan Stern on Nov 22, 2011 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
if Jerry could have talked them down from a pick from next year, I would think about that.
Again, except for Tyron. The OL is/was a bigger mess than the pass rush, by far.
It wasn't mystifying
It was disgusting.
Two 1st rounders playing OLB and other than a few plays here and there, the Skins’ patchwork O-line stonewalled the Cowboys all day long.
Personally, Anthony Spencer is worthless. I don’t care how he plays the run. In obvious passing situations, he is a liability to the point that opposing DC’s know enough to focus on Ware and, at times, Ratliff to completely neutralize the pass rush.
When Ware doesn’t get pressure, we become the New York Jets…without the great CB play.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
yep, it was bad
I would prefer a pass rusher at a DE spot – maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t think Spencer is subpar compared to most strong side OLBs as a pass rusher. I looked up the numbers last year and he was competitive.
The DEs though…its a HUGE problem on 1st and 2nd down. Spears gets no push. Ratliff gets some push, if you had two half decent pass rushers next to him it may be ok. Hatcher is all right. Brent and Lissemore were nonfactors Sunday(I don’t know if Lissemore even played, I was watching a crappy feed)
The DEs though
I don’t think Spencer is subpar compared to most strong side OLBs as a pass rusher. I looked up the numbers last year and he was competitive.
I’m pretty close to this view. I think Spencer is probably average. 6 sacks/season makes him average. That puts him 40-50 in the league. Not terrible but not a matchup nightmare. #93 isn’t a gaping hole but he isn’t a great strength either. he’s satisfactory.
Of course we all want an elite talent to match with Ware.
Anyway, as it, #93 is average. In FO’s Sanchez breakdown they had a good comment about how fans have a hard time with average …
Why do Sanchez’s numbers not line up with our mental image of his play? Many fans live in a strange NFL Lake Wobegon where there are no average quarterbacks. Our minds tend to placepassersplayers in one of two categories: “elite” and “terrible.” We have a hard time considering that some quarterbacks are going to be a little above average, or a little below average, rather than at the extremes.
And the DEs are average to below average as well. I’m kinda of mixed about what to do. Most 1st round DL won’t be good pass rushers. Consistent pass rushers are usually elite talents. For example, I’m happy with the route Dallas took resigning Spears at $1M/season and Coleman if the alternative was Cam Jordan or Cam Heyward … because I don’t think Jordan or Heyward give you more than Spears/Coleman does. So I’d just as soon use the draft pick on anything else (that way at least you don’t tie up $ on a lame DL … if you’re going to have average players at least get them cheap).
anyway, Dallas has a lot of average between #93, #98, & #99. And it’s a hard hole to fill since everyone’s looking for pass rushers.
For God and country - Geronimo
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Nov 22, 2011 6:00 PM CST up reply actions
"Dallas has a lot of average between #93, #98, & #99"
I think you can add #97, #95, #57 to that list.
I don’t think the answer is a Bruce Smith-type 3-4 DE; those guys just don’t exist much more often than once in a generation. I’d favor drafting a pass-rushing DE/ OLB type every year, much like with a quarterback. As the Giants have demonstrated, you simply cannot have too many of those guys…
I think you can add #97, #95, #57 to that list.
unfortunately that’s true
For God and country - Geronimo
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Nov 22, 2011 6:46 PM CST up reply actions
Looks like the only good number in the 90's is 94
"....the Cowboy way...." (Head Coach, Jason Garrett)
Yeah but do you expect more than average from a 1st round pick?
depends on how the draft falls but in general I would not expect an upgrade over Spears to be available in the second half of the 1st round.
For God and country - Geronimo
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Nov 23, 2011 7:43 AM CST up reply actions
I was talking about Spencer. What country you in? Your commenting to early to be in America I think, I could be wrong.
I’m in NYC.
I’m not sure. I think that sometimes the OLB types can slip, there are just more of them.
Good drafting helps. Dallas could have taken Lamar Woodley with the Spencer pick.
For God and country - Geronimo
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Nov 23, 2011 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
kinda late but spencer has next to no instinct in passing downs
first he has no moves except trying to bowl over the lineman and he sells out so hard for the run every play even in situations where the pass is just as(or even more) likely to be called versus the run
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 23, 2011 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
off the topic, but Redskins just cut
…Tashard Choice. Did they get him just to get intel on us? Was that a big part of them keeping things close? Hmmmmm.
Lilly, Hayes, Staubach, Waters, Dorsett, Bates, Novacek, Emmitt, Woodson, Ware, Witten, Lee. The Legacy lives on.
by wtshaolin on Nov 22, 2011 4:57 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Dan Snyder thinks he's sly and original and may have thought
Choice was gonna allow them to outscheme the Cowboys and expose all our top-secret weak points.
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
yeah they prob got a call from Miami as kin if the redskins were thru with choice lol
woman !, don't try to understand em, don't try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
(redskins)= A Tale of 2 owners, bought by Snyder, OWNED by the COWBOYS
Id say RIP Al Davis, but i know your up there drunker than a monkey and clocking angels in the 40 yd dash.
Could the Redskins
Have any less class? They are the bottom feeders of the NFL. A sad bunch led by a drowned rat.
by cowboy north on Nov 22, 2011 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
I just saw that.
Honestly, I think it was a mistake for them to cut him. He’s not a starter, but he’s good enough to make most rosters as a backup and certainly as good as anyone else the Redskins have. It would help his cause to man up and play some special teams though.
Places I think he could land: KC, Detroit, GB, SD, Denver, Cleveland
SD would probably be best for him since it’s basically the same playbook, but it’s also probably the least likely. GB should be trying to do something about their running game, but they don’t seem to worried about Grant and Starks. With Tebow at QB, Denver needs all the running backs they can get. KC, Detroit, and Cleveland all need healthy bodies and would be more than happy with 3.5 YPC.
ed werder of all people gushingly praised Romo.....
over last 3 weeks Romo is the 2nd best QB in the league behind Rodgers.
anything that sounds like praise from ed werder is rare….. imagine thaat lol
woman !, don't try to understand em, don't try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
(redskins)= A Tale of 2 owners, bought by Snyder, OWNED by the COWBOYS
Id say RIP Al Davis, but i know your up there drunker than a monkey and clocking angels in the 40 yd dash.
Read Jake Plummer said Tebow needs to tone down the religious bs.....
couldn’t agree more.
Nobody cares about your effin fantasy team, keep it to yourself...........Lock n Load
heh plummer.....
that man needed all the divine help he could get ……
but then id be more worried about a man who has no relationship with his creator……..
woman !, don't try to understand em, don't try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
(redskins)= A Tale of 2 owners, bought by Snyder, OWNED by the COWBOYS
Id say RIP Al Davis, but i know your up there drunker than a monkey and clocking angels in the 40 yd dash.
better check in on your Constitution's Bill of Rights first
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, the real question is, is it a good beer? Realist Larry, 2011
by Realist Larry on Nov 23, 2011 12:21 AM CST up reply actions
There is no Constitutional Issue here, no First Amendment implications
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I would love to show you the finer points to a muay thai clinch whipped knee to the face seanrude
by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
tell DW
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, the real question is, is it a good beer? Realist Larry, 2011
by Realist Larry on Nov 23, 2011 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
SeanRude is accidentally right...there is no First Amendment issue here
The text of the First Amendment:
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
Applies to Congress and later incorporated to the States by the Fourteenth Amendment. If Jake Plummer tells him to tone it down, and he listens, the state isn’t abridging his rights to hold whichever religious views that he has. A private interest should tell you to shut up about your views with disturbing the Constitution.
Nice try, though.
by Omar Little on Nov 23, 2011 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
Besides, Plummer didn't say Tebow "needs" to tone it down,
he said “if” Tebow toned it down, more people would like him. And regardless of anyone’s views, overall that is true.
"I'm huunngray. I want some f**ken french tooast!"
What do you mean I am "accidentally right"?
I practiced law for twenty years, and a good portion of my practice involved constitutional issues. I know my way around the constitution and the Bill of RIghts as well as anybody on this board.
In fact, I know it so well, I am adopting your explanation in whole as it is well done, easy to understand, and explains the issue at hand perfectly.
Just drop the “accidentally” part
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I would love to show you the finer points to a muay thai clinch whipped knee to the face seanrude
by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
For all you who are still high on Romo
Please check out this top notch article from reputable and always factual website, The Bleacher Report
I agree with everything this gentleman says, and endorse his valid and constructive opinions
Sounds like some of the idiots on BTB.
How can people be this stupid?
Nobody cares about your effin fantasy team, keep it to yourself...........Lock n Load
seriously, I have no idea
My above jokes aside, the fact that he is called a “featured columnist” (it really does say that) on any sports website disgusts me.
some people wanted me to write there too
just couldn’t do it, BR has an awful rep
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Nov 23, 2011 12:01 AM CST up reply actions
The scary thing is he probably has and is just that stupid.
Nobody cares about your effin fantasy team, keep it to yourself...........Lock n Load
hey now...I am trying to get a job there
so don't insult my future employer
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Nov 22, 2011 5:55 PM CST up reply actions
never mind that Tony signed
a “extension” that says if he is traded or cut prior to 2013, he gets 3 years added to he contract
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Nov 22, 2011 5:59 PM CST up reply actions
Worst article I read this year
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
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Twitter: @silva918
I can't believe
he pulled the “injury prone” card. There are so many injuries that are nigh-unavoidable, a broken finger, broken collarbone, punctured lung and broken ribs all fall under that category.
Dokken - Best band of the 80's without a f!@#$% doubt. George Lynch was the best guitar player of the 80's hands down, the best rhythm section of all 80's bands with jeff pilson and mick brown, and one of the best vocalists of all with Don Dokken. I defy you to find a better f!@#$%^ amalgamation of pure talent.
by Nick Castillo on Nov 22, 2011 8:12 PM CST up reply actions
And yet I'm inexplicably drawn to it
Hey now, Romo got to learn under Quincy Carter, Testaverde and Bledsoe. Which is like a human child being raised by a wolf. -DavidH22
If Romulus can do it, so can Romo. ....WAIT A MINUTE - NYHORN
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
I used to read it a bit. Then I saw some of the absolute nonsense they were putting out,
and now I just keep in walkin’.
hahahahaaaaaa
woman !, don't try to understand em, don't try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
(redskins)= A Tale of 2 owners, bought by Snyder, OWNED by the COWBOYS
Id say RIP Al Davis, but i know your up there drunker than a monkey and clocking angels in the 40 yd dash.
I don't see Aaron Rodgers on the waiver wire
This year, I’m not entirely sold that we could entirely blame Romo for the offensive failings. If you want to fantasize about a life without Romo, look at how the Cowboys did without him last year. It’s not exactly the Colts without a Peyton Manning, but it was awfully close.Do you want to risk a franchise that is seemingly so very close to the promise land on a gamble on getting a JaMarcus Russell or having to develop a Tebow. Imagine how many Dallas fans will stand to watch a 2 for 8 completion game.You have a known quantity in Romo, so it’s up to the coaching staff to exploit his talents and contain his faults.
You must be on the same crack that guy is on
Not sure about the numbers may make myself look stupid but doesn’t Romo have one of the highest passer ratings in the 4th quarter. Other than that if any thinks that we have better chance with the slow reads and molasses progression reads McGee makes over Romo is just retarded. Drafting a qb at this point when we have bigger needs in the first would hurt us more than help us. And a 4th or 5th round qb isn’t the answer either.
by Sado44 on Nov 22, 2011 9:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Don is just being sarcastic
Hey now, Romo got to learn under Quincy Carter, Testaverde and Bledsoe. Which is like a human child being raised by a wolf. -DavidH22
If Romulus can do it, so can Romo. ....WAIT A MINUTE - NYHORN
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
Sir, there's a big wooden horse outside. All they are asking for it is Romo.
This is coming from the same site that wrote up Murray in the Rams game,250 yds, as a…Fluke???His reasoning was that the Rams defense played so poorly that most running backs in the league(75%) could have had the same result.
And what about the write up for Murray’s production against Seattle and the Buffallo?Ever since the fluke comment,nothing but crickets and tumbleweeds….
This moron even says "there are about 10 qb's in the league i'd take over romo"
So you would cut the 11 best QB in the league? R u kidding me? Freakin idiot!!! I can think of about 20 teams that would die to have Romo as they’re QB. Look at what Arizona gave up for kolb and romo is waayyyyy better than kolb.
by Dynamicduo on Nov 23, 2011 12:18 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
WOW! that was a lot of words, Rabble.
Thanks for the indepth look. Hope you didnt give away Robowski’s tendencies.
by Professor1 on Nov 22, 2011 6:03 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Here's the case for D-line draft help.
" Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. "
Samuel Beckett
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
Oh yeah
I’d say C, DL, and CB are the team’s biggest needs OLB shortly there after if they can’t resign Spencer or if they’re not too confident in Butler. I’m okay with Elam and Sensabaugh as safeties…just need to keep them.
we just need a passrusher
Dline, OLB, whatever. We just need another guy to get home
by somebodyquiet on Nov 22, 2011 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
Short offseason means that the season's sort of a learning process.
So, it’s taking sometime. I remember when the Packers lost in the playoffs to the Cardinals and won the Super Bowl shortly thereafter. I can see the same thing happening with the Cowboys.
what about our secondary, not sure how you graded them out, but they seemed really
passive, especially newman. how about playing lissemore and brent more on passing downs, they seem much more explosive, ratliff, also needs to start making more of an impact. butler should be getting more playing time, spencer seems slow and unaware.
Excellent article
Thanks for the insight. I especially liked the way you tied in your initial impression (3 rushers) with a careful analysis of real-world facts. Cheers!
I would like ratliff to be moved over and draft a good DT in the 2nd or 3rd round. It pisses me off because NE and Pitts consistently find good players to fit their scheme. Hopefully Ryan can get 3-4 good players to fill our gaps at nt,olb,s and depth at mlb
Respect the greatness that is the Dallas Cowboys
Here's why they didn't blitz heavy...
Mike Jenkins is hurt, so Ryan is protecting the remaining corners some.
Insert pithy statement here.
coverage was good that game
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Nov 23, 2011 12:02 AM CST up reply actions
one of the reasons i would have liked dallas to have drafted jj watt is that i thought he would be a handful for the left tackle/left side on running downs, then turning things over to a different animal in ware on passing downs. right now ware (and spencer) play nearly every down. there’s no fresh legs pass rush in the 4th quarter when these late drives happen. ellis was money in his last few years with dallas because he had a great arsenal of moves and was always rested for passing downs. the only guy on the roster that can put his hand on the ground and rush the edge is ware, and if dallas isn’t going to rest him more during the game, then this is what you get. there is an alternative which is score more instead of trying to sit on a seven point lead.
"Case of the Missing Pass Rush." huh?
This kind of mystery calls for the Hardly Boys. They’ll search in and out for clues.
Greetings from the Humungus, the Ruler of the Wasteland, the Ayatollah of Rock and Roll-A. I laugh at your puny plans.
B 221 Baker Street could help, Dear Watson.
21 as in Jenkins
"....the Cowboy way...." (Head Coach, Jason Garrett)
They need to get a DL in the 1st round and another in the 2nd or 3rd wherever a great prospect will fall because i see a Very Good def. line getting beaten too often
by jimmy.marshall2 on Nov 22, 2011 8:38 PM CST reply actions
Good article. Disheartening, even though we knew it wasn't a good
situation. Jerry owes Rob a defense-heavy draft.
This just confirmed what I was pretty much thinking ...
good article but i’m not depressed as ever. we can’t even good pressure against bad lines who block for terrible QBs. this can derail our season as much as anything can.
Good article. Way to break it down.
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
I've said it before and I'll say it again
as great as Ware’s numbers are, he is becoming more and more like Dave Winfield, the Cowboys’ own “Mr. First Quarter.”
Ware does not appear to have a killer instinct or a propensity to close out football games. Look at the 3-game winning/tying drives the Cowboys have given up this year (Lions, Patriots and Redskins). Nada from Ware. Meanwhile, when the Cowboys DID manage to have clutch defensive stops late in the game, it’s players like Hatcher (SF) and Spencer (first Redskins game) that end up making the plays. I recall in the playoffs against the Giants and Vikings he had very early sacks, and then…nothing much else.
I am very likely missing some great and clutch contributions that Ware has made, but my overall impression is – class act, great guy, freakish athlete and decent pass rusher. But not cataclysmic.
14 sacks and counting
Only player in the league that can utter that phrase after ten weeks….
oh, and led the league with sacks last season just to top off the braggard’s claim.
This is just the "Situational Awareness argument"
Repackaged and molded to fit DeMarcus Ware.
Hey now, Romo got to learn under Quincy Carter, Testaverde and Bledsoe. Which is like a human child being raised by a wolf. -DavidH22
If Romulus can do it, so can Romo. ....WAIT A MINUTE - NYHORN
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
No argument from me...
Just stating a fact. He can say that and no one else can.
ALSO – this is in my opinion – Every TV broadcast I have heard of a Cowboys game this season has included a mention from the commentators that the opposing offense revamps its game plan to acccount for Demarcus Ware.
Not Jay Ratliff, Sean Lee, Anthony Spencer, Barry Church, or Rob Ryan…..
Demarcus Ware.
Every broadcast.
Like how I stuck Barry Church in there…give the kid some props!
What
Did you just say decent pass rusher by end of year will hold all time sack record and you call him decent seriously wtf. I’m in aw of your comment
by Sado44 on Nov 22, 2011 9:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Ware is a stats guy
when the pressure is on, he chokes.
Sound like an equally stupid but familiar line? There are actually people who think you can get league-leading stats but still suck.
Don't believe everything you think.
I assume you are referring to the usual Romo criticism
except QB usually is more important than any defensive player and Romo has helped make our offense one of the best since 2006 (whereas the Cowboys defense has never been a game-changing defense during Ware’s tenure), and Romo was an undrafted free agent as compared to the 11th pick overall so frankly I expect more out of the latter. Besides, I never said Ware chokes, those are your words. I said he doesn’t make big defensive plays when it really matters very often, New Orleans 2009 excepted.
Has no one heard about players compiling useless or garbage time stats? The four sacks of Vick sure seemed like that to me. Look, Ware will go down as one of the greatest Cowboy defensive players of all time, but when it comes to making a defensive stop when it truly counts, at the end of a close game, his appearances are few and far between. That is more of an indictment of the Cowboys defense in general under Parcells, Phillips and now Ryan, but Ware is the undisputed leader of this defense, right?
As for opposing coaches fretting "How do we as an offense combat Demarcus Ware?" of course they are going to focus almost entirely on Ware. He is still the best player on a slightly above average defense. Take care of Ware and opposing offenses have an even easier time.
I wasn't actually taking you on, David
So I didn’t say “choke” with reference to your point. That said, i think the two positions are analagous. Most coaches will tell you that the second most important player on a team is the premier pass rusher. And the garbage time stats sound good but all players on virtually every team, over time, have prime time and garbage time opportunities, so the stats even out across the league.
Like Romo getting slammed in large part because of a poor supporting cast (line, RBs), I think Ware is a great player in a sea of mediocre players. And that’s Jerry’s fault for poor talent management.
Don't believe everything you think.
Just to be clear
I love Demarcus Ware, and think he;’s gonna be a first-ballot HOFer. But there is something that Lawrence Taylor and Charles Haley had that he seems to lack, and that the “flair for the dramatic,” the ability to take over a game or to make a key stop when it matters most.
Coupled with that is Dunk’s excellent point, which is that its hard to do ths when surrounded by mediocrity. I wonder if he gets so tired working through doubles and triples all game that by the 4th Q, he doesn’t have enough in his tank to be like those guys, who always had much better supporting casts.
Curious stat: three of Ware’s 14 sacks this year are on the first play of the game
by rabblerousr on Nov 23, 2011 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
I think they would love to spell him during games, like Dallas used to do with Haley
and the rest of the D-line, but they can’t really afford to. with a stronger cast, Ware could remain fresh for all 4 quarters.
Don't believe everything you think.
How do you think Sepencer got that pressure to end the Skins game?
Ware. He takes two guys, drives them into the quarterback, and forces him to scramble, ending up with Spencer stripping him. Ware’s a freaking beast – quarters be damned.
Crappy video, but here you go- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRXhbtAHyvw
Remember the Saints game? 2009 to end it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7lGNpYoVPw
He is in the game almost the entire time. A situational guy to spell him would be great, but it’s hard taking your only real chance of sacking a QB off the field, and RR knows this.
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
"Meanwhile, like a bitter wine, Philadelphia’s jealousy fermented in the dark cellars of pride and resentment. With no playoff hopes of their own, Eagles fans turned towards hating the Cowboys." Steve Sabol, NFL films
by Nickthegrip on Nov 23, 2011 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
The NFC East is ridiculous this season...
The national media gives the NFC East zero respect, yet gush over the 49ers…
First off – Dallas beat the Niners.
The Eagles pounded the Niners for two and a half quarters then quit.
The Giants had the Niners in a steel cage grudge battle to the wire…
Yet the NFC East is “mediocre” and Harbaugh is “such a great motivator”
Watch the Niners lose three more regular season games and bow out in their first playoff match.
Niners…LOL
PS – Jerry Rice may be the best WR ever – but NO WAY do I take him over Jim Brown as the best football player ever…give me Brown 365…..
And Montana is a wimp
Great QB…but c’mon, meets his wife in a shaving cream commercial where he dresses up like a Cowboy?!?!
Cheeese-E!
Hey, they're 8-1, while the East is 6-4, 6-4, and 4-6. And if the beat Baltimore, what can you say?
I’ve been waiting for it all to fall apart, but that coach turned Stanford (Stanford!0 into a powerhouse. Do you know what their recruiting challenges are there? He knows what he’s doing.
And if Dallas loses Thursday we’ll wish we had their record.
But I’m with you on the “Jerry Rice greatest player ever” BS, I’m so tired of hearing that for the last 20 years, give me a break. I could list lotsa reasons, but here’s #1: No way ANY WR is the best NFL player ever.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, the real question is, is it a good beer? Realist Larry, 2011
by Realist Larry on Nov 23, 2011 12:29 AM CST up reply actions
Al Morganti - Philly Radio host from Boston
Think the Eagles have a shot to WIN the Division at get this….
Eight and Eight!!!!!!
he is serious too.
what are they putting in the cheesesteaks?
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
DeMarcus is EveryWare Man
Twitter: @silva918
Cowboy Vote Off!!!!!
Eagles fans gloat about a player they call “DRC”
Poll question -
Does DRC stand for
1) Doesn’t Really Contribute
2) Damaged Replaceable Corner
+++Note “Replaceable” refers to the second round pick the Eagles acquired with Cromartie to basicallt try to replace him….
LOL
Cowboys Fun Fact -
Did you know on Thanksgiving Day 1994 Montrae Holland ate three Turkey legs, two helpings of stuffing, a plate of pasta, a small salad, a loaf of multigrain bread, another loaf of wonder bread, three mashed potatoes, a pool of gravy, lasagna, McDonalds French Fries, a Burger King Whopper, a Wendy’s hamburger, a Chick-Filet sandwich, a Denny’s pancake breakfast, a small fox, abaked chicken pot pie, two bowls of delicious chocolate ice cream, a happy meal toy (by mistake), a thin slice of ham, a banana, a fudge pop, and three slices of lemon meringue pie….
Then he walked over to Chia Crack’s house to celebrate Thanksgiving with a bountiful feast prepared exclusively by Chia Crack……
It was a touching, memorable Thanksgiving!!!!
Happy Thanksgiving to all Cowboys fans!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
hey Lumpy is my boy and he is always flies in to Newburgh after the game, I pick him up and we go back to my house to a beautiful night Thanksgiving meal
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Nov 23, 2011 12:03 AM CST up reply actions
on the way home from the airport
he stopped and crushed a whole tub of Crisco
in 1994 I was a kid and Lumpy was a little older than me but man he threw it down, my mom had to cook another 30 pound turkey because we knew he was coming over
of course it was a fried turkey and Lumpy ate the cooled off grease afterwards as well
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Nov 23, 2011 12:05 AM CST up reply actions
damn i be scared to let him go to the john after eating all that lol. or get a big plunger loil
woman !, don't try to understand em, don't try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
(redskins)= A Tale of 2 owners, bought by Snyder, OWNED by the COWBOYS
Id say RIP Al Davis, but i know your up there drunker than a monkey and clocking angels in the 40 yd dash.
Why everyone should bet the Pats Sunday!!!
Brady’s postgame comments – “Time to prepare for Philadelphia.”
Belichick’s postgame comments – “Time to prepare for Philadelphia.”
These guys are serious!
Desean Jackson’s post game comments – “I am the light that shines on my teammates.”
Completely full of himself.
That’s all I needed to hear.
Im still trying to figure out how ware is a decent pass rusher
Its gonna ruin my holidays unless someone can tell me why anyone would make such a horrible statement ware is the Dallas defense has been since he was drafted. I’m so confused
by Sado44 on Nov 22, 2011 10:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Sado...I argued against DavidH22
Read the string…I was the first to challenge David’s statement…so you’ll get nothing out of me…
Nothing I tell you!
Except that DeMarcus Ware has 29 sacks over the last 26 games.
More than anyone…except the bag boy who has to “sack” up Lumpy Montrae’s groceries for Thanksgiving…that may top 30 sacks!
3 rushers 4 times
That surprises me. It felt like more than that. Maybe it’s just because those 4 plays were rather important.
hands up
Seemed like the rush wasn’t all that disruptive. Aren’t pass rushers supposed to jump up to block the passing lane if they can’t get to the QB? I didn’t see much (any?) of that Sunday.
It’d be nice to see them get to the QB; but if they don’t they could still make his job harder.
Speares did have an important block down by the goal line in the 4th Q
but it was forgotten because Grossman threw the tying TD to Stallworth a play or two later…
by rabblerousr on Nov 23, 2011 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
Same question for you, do you do end-of-season write-up summaries?
how many of these articles will have “Ware and Ratliff were left hanging” at the end of the season?
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 23, 2011 10:10 PM CST reply actions
I will fume if eventually V Butler gets significant snaps somewhere and turns out to be a decent pass-rusher. If we’re only keeping Spencer in cause he’s good against the run that will suck. Although they don’t even put him in on passing downs so I guess that tells you alot.
I'd say he already is
turns out to be a decent pass-rusher.
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