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Dallas Cowboys Pass Rush: Pass-Rushing Linemen And Unannounced Blitzers

An early sign of things to come: During pre-season, Jason Hatcher sacks Tim Tebow. Hatcher continues to sack, Tebow continues getting sacked.

Today, we conclude our three-part look at the Cowboys' pass rush. In part I, we looked at the overall number of sacks, QB Hits and QB pressures generated by the Cowboys, combined all three stats into an aggregated stat called QB Disruption Points and found that the Cowboys defense was ranked tenth in the league in pass rushing.

In part II, we looked at the Cowboys' linebackers and predictably found that there is no match on the team for DeMarcus Ware in terms of pass rushing productivity. But we also saw that Victor Butler and Sean Lee are two players with a lot of potential as pass rushers.

In this third and final part, we take an extensive look our the Cowboys defensive line, compare Jay Ratliff to his 3-4 nose tackle peers, wonder whether Jason Hatcher is the real deal and try to get a better feel for how Rob Ryan is using his defensive backs as pass rushers.

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Jay Ratliff: Stud

Before going into detail about the Cowboys' D-line, we'll take a closer look at Jay Ratliff and how he compares as a pass rusher to the other 3-4 nose tackles in the league.

For the season, Ratliff has one sack, six QB hits and 15 QB pressures. This gives him 16.8 Quarterback Disruption Points for the season (QBDPs are explained in detail in part I). He achieved those numbers on 343 pass rushing snaps for a 4.9% Pass Rushing Productivity (PRP is explained in part II).

Here's how Ratliff's numbers compare to the other 3-4 NTs across the league.

Player Team Snaps Pass Rush QB Sk QB Ht QB Pr QBDP PRP '11
Antonio Garay SD 338 162 2 5 10 13.3 8.2%
Jay Ratliff DAL 552 343 1 6 15 16.8 4.9%
Isaac Sopoaga SF 277 144 0 2 5 5.3 3.6%
Shaun Cody HOU 244 111 1 2 2 4.0 3.6%
Barry Cofield WAS 506 271 2 4 5 8.8 3.2%
B.J. Raji GB 613 404 3 1 10 11.3 2.8%
Dan Williams ARZ 244 99 0 1 2 2.3 2.3%
Sione Pouha NYJ 386 147 0 0 4 3.0 2.0%
Kelly Gregg KC 346 132 1 0 2 2.5 1.9%
Paul Soliai MIA 323 137 0 2 1 2.3 1.6%
Casey Hampton PIT 226 100 0 0 2 1.5 1.5%

A nose tackles' primary responsibility is to clog up the middle as a run stopper. The ability to rush the passer is strictly a bonus. The Cowboys are certainly getting a lot of bonus from Jay Ratliff as a nose tackle. Ratliff creates more pressure per snap than all other 3-4 NTs except San Diego's Antonio Garay. Note also that there aren't many  'workhorse' 3-4 nose tackles left in the league. An average team has had a little over 600 defensive snaps so far this year. Only Ratliff, B.J. Raji and the Redskins' Barry Cofield are on the field for the vast majority of defensive snaps, all others on this list are frequently substituted in and out.

Defensive Linemen: Surprise Stud

Before moving on to the Cowboys' defensive ends, we need to establish a baseline for what a good pass rushing performance is. We saw that for pure pass rushers a PRP of 10% or more was a very good value, and for a nose tackle, 5% seems to be very good.

The table below shows the top ten 3-4 DEs and their pass rushing productivity. For some reason, there is a persistent school of thought that pops up every time the talk turns to defensive ends in a 3-4 scheme and claims that 3-4 DEs are pure run-stuffers who do not need to be able to rush the passer. The table below tells a different story.

Player Team Snaps Pass Rush QB Sk QB Ht QB Pr QBDP PRP '11
Antonio D. Smith HST 451 297 5 12 20 29 9.8%
Justin Smith SF 698 469 5 9 38 40.3 8.6%
Jason Hatcher DAL 256 161 3 4 8 12 7.5%
Kendall Langford MIA 387 193 0 1 17 13.5 7.0%
Ray McDonald SF 586 379 4 5 25 26.5 7.0%
Darnell Dockett ARZ 665 380 1 8 25 25.8 6.8%
Calais Campbell ARZ 687 397 6 7 18 24.8 6.2%
J.J. Watt HST 482 303 4 1 17 17.5 5.8%
Ropati Pitoitua NYJ 236 106 2 0 5 5.8 5.4%
Randy Starks MIA 464 259 2 5 11 14 5.4%

While not comparable to the numbers of the elite pass rushers of 10% and more, there are a number of 3-4 DE's who are very productive pass rushers. And lo and behold, Jason Hatcher is one of them, ranking as the third most productive pass rushing end on all 3-4 teams in the league. By comparison, just for old times sake, Stephen Bowen has a PRP of 3.3% with the Redskins.

Cowboys Defensive Linemen

Here's how the entire Cowboys defensive line looks in terms of pass rushing.

Player Snaps Pass Rush QB Sk QB Ht QB Pr QBDP PRP '11
Jason Hatcher 256 161 3 4 8 12.0 7.5%
Josh Price-Brent 119 52 0 0 5 3.8 7.2%
Sean Lissemore 170 102 0 2 5 5.3 5.1%
Jay Ratliff 552 343 1 6 15 16.8 4.9%
Marcus R. Spears 295 154 1 1 6 6.3 4.1%
Kenyon Coleman 298 147 1 1 5 5.5 3.7%

Big surprise here for me to see Josh Brent ranked so high. I had always considered him primarily a run stuffer, and honestly, never saw him as anything more than somebody who was there to give Ratliff a breather. But, and there's always a but, beware of sample size effects here: one less pressure by Brent and he'd have a PRP of 5.8%. But I'll revise my opinion of Brent anyway, and keep a close watch on how these figures develop for the rest of the season.

Seventh-round pick Sean Lissemore has a more robust base to work off of, although it is still a bit low. Despite that, his pass rushing productivity ties him with first-round pick Jared Odrick for the 11th spot on the 3-4 DE list, just three spots down from another first-round pick, J.J. Watt.  Hmmmm...

Spears and Coleman are both slightly below average as pass rushers, no surprise there.

There are a lot of hypothetical line-up permutations we could go through with the existing personnel in the hopes of getting a better pass rush from our defensive line, but one thing is clear: an effective pass-rushing, three-down defensive lineman would do this line a world of good.

Defensive Backs: Unannounced Blitzers

Back in January, we took a first look Rob Ryan's defense in Cleveland and found that Rob Ryan likes to rush the passer with what BTB-member Chandus calls "unannounced blitzers": Chandus's film study (The Schematic Advantage of Having a Ryan) showed that Ryan likes to hide the points of attack of his rushers by using delayed rushes from the ILBs or the defensive backs (either safeties or corners) to "blitz the brains out of the OLineman and QB".

That's not something the Cowboys have done in the past years. In 2010, the Cowboys rushed one of their DBs 48 times on 590 dropbacks by opposing quarterbacks for a "rush" rate of 8.1%. That number was 4.0% in 2009 and 6.4% in 2008.

So far this year, the Cowboys have rushed a defensive back 94 times, almost as much as the 110 rushes in the previous three years combined. Here's how that number compares to the other 3-4 teams in the league this year:

Team Opponent dropbacks DB Rushes in %
NYJ 326 153 47%
GB 496 132 27%
WAS 352 93 26%
MIA 433 105 24%
DAL 428 94 22%
PIT 359 70 19%
HOU 358 66 18%
ARI 413 71 17%
KC 296 43 15%
SF 441 47 11%
SD 294 27 9%

What's unclear right now is whether the Cowboys are blitzing their backs out of choice or out of necessity. As we saw earlier, the 49ers are getting loads of pressure from their front five, and can keep their secondary back doing what they're supposed to be doing, protecting against the pass. So are the Cowboys bringing more backs on rushes because the front five are not getting enough pressure, or are they doing it because they are achieving exceptional results when they blitz a guy out of the secondary?

Defensive backs: More Surprise Studs?

We've established the principle, so without further ado, here's the pass rush productivity table for the Cowboys secondary:

Player Snaps Pass Rush QB Sk QB Ht QB Pr QBDP PRP '11
Gerald Sensabaugh 684 13 0 0 5 3.8 28.8%
Orlando Scandrick 434 18 1 1 4 4.8 26.4%
Barry Church 157 12 0 1 1 1.5 12.5%
Frank Walker 236 14 0 1 1 1.5 10.7%
Abram Elam 728 26 0 0 1 0.8 2.9%
No rushing allowed
Terence Newman 533 1 0 0 0 0.0 - -
Alan Ball 414 4 0 1 0 0.8 - -
Mike Jenkins 400 1 0 0 0 0.0 - -
Bryan McCann 35 3 0 1 0 0.8 - -
Danny McCray 26 2 1 0 0 1.0 - -

The Cowboys secondary is quite effective when sent against opposing quarterbacks. Sensabaugh and Scandrick in particular are veritable pass rush threats, and it's no surprise that Ryan's sending them after the QB. Elam has been surprisingly ineffective on his blitzes, which is a little strange considering that he was supposed to be the Jedi Master of the Rob Ryan defense.

Also noteworthy is that Ryan does not blitz his starting corners. Newman, Jenkins and Ball are hardly ever sent rushing. No wonder, they have their hands more than full with their coverage assignments anyway.

Based on all the numbers in these three posts, it wouldn't come as a surprise at all if the Cowboys decided go for a three-down, pass-rushing defensive lineman with a high pick in the draft or via free agency.

At the end of the day, if the Cowboys want to improve their pass defense (which they should), they'll have to invest in their defensive line first. If the Cowboys’ defensive line can't put enough pressure on opposing quarterbacks, the secondary is going to go chasing after opposing receivers all day and end up looking old, stupid and incompetent in the process. If receivers are running around all day, it doesn’t matter if you have Pro Bowl corners, you won't be able to cover anybody. Even a corner picked in the first round next April won't help one little bit if the line doesn't bring the pressure.

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too many snaps for ratliff

and i think elam is too slow for safety blitzes

by 1youngwiz on Nov 26, 2011 11:17 AM CST reply actions  

I think that Elam is needed back in coverage anyway.

"Deion never played quarterback in the National Football League, so his comments are based off the other side of the ball. If you play my position and criticism can really affect you and hurt you and make you play differently, then you’re only gonna be around for so long anyway. The whole objective is to keep getting better. Keep finding ways to improve, and if your talented enough and good enough, you will lead your team to the Super Bowl. That will happen around here, it will."

by willyoubemycharizard on Nov 26, 2011 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Sensi is the best for that.

But you don’t want it to be too predictable.

Realist.

by DCyanks21 on Nov 26, 2011 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

On Elam...

I think he is sent more as a run-blitzer, and just happened to be sent when the other team decided to pass in a non-obvious situation.

by CotySaxman on Nov 26, 2011 3:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Instead of
go for a three-down, pass-rushing defensive lineman with a high pick in the draft or via free agency.

they simply played Lissemore, Brent and Hatcher more? with a 5 man rotation of those three + Ratliff and Spears wouldn’t that give you the same effect? you could even out the snap count between Ratliff and Brent Price( 552-119 just isn’t gonna cut it) seeing as Coleman is on a 1 year contract you could phase him out, and double Lissmore’s snaps so you could end up with this rotation:

Jason Hatcher 350
Josh Price-Brent 350
Sean Lissemore 350
Jay Ratliff 350
Marcus Spears 290

Wouldn’t that be the best option for now?

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST

by I am Ironman!!! on Nov 26, 2011 11:39 AM CST reply actions  

Hatcher's snap numbers would be higher...

if he hadn’t missed 3 games due to injury. I especially like that he’s playing better than Bowen…for a lot less money.

I agree, Lissemore should be in on more snaps getting ready to replace Coleman.

I still have pretty high hopes for Brent. I’d definitely like to see them cut into JRat’s workload a bit more by using Brent more often.

Rabid and luvin' it

by lonewolfz28 on Nov 26, 2011 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

I’m not sure that we can simply extrapolate the numbers of the young guys.

First of all, the numbers may be skewed because of the same sample size to start with.

Secondly, it’s very likely that the young guys are being used specifically on downs that suit their skills. There numbers would very likely decline if they are used more.

Thirdy, I agree with lonewolf, Hatcher’s playing time looks lower than it actually is because he missed a couple of games. He gets a lot of snaps. When healthy, Hatcher gets a little over half the defnsive snaps, and always more than Coleman.

by One.Cool.Customer on Nov 26, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Question...

Why is Danny McCray on the “no rushing allowed” list? In two pass rushes, he’s got one sack. That’s .500 in my book. LOL

Seriously though, he’s a Safety, not a Corner. Although, he does play CB occasionally in certain packages and due to injuries. Why not let him pass rush once in awhile when he is in there? Yeah, it’s a small sample size, but it looks good so far.

Rabid and luvin' it

by lonewolfz28 on Nov 26, 2011 12:01 PM CST reply actions  

I simply bundled the guys at the bottom of the table who don’t have a lot of pass rushing snaps.

by One.Cool.Customer on Nov 26, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmmmmm. . .

These recent posts make me wonder if the problems we’re having in pass defense are stemming from the DB’s rather than the pass rush.

I can't think of anything because I'm so fly.

by liquidblake on Nov 26, 2011 12:13 PM CST reply actions  

I doubt this is traceable, but...

…I wonder about the numbers when aligned in a 4-3 (ish) front vs. a 3-4 (ish) front—i.e., how does having another tackle next to him affect Ratliff’s play? Of course, we’d then have to compare him not to other NTs but to other DTs, who probably have higher numbers.

To me the telling stat is the numbers for Spears and Coleman, especially when compared to, say, Smith and McDonald of SF. Considering that the ’Niners probably rush their OLBs at a high rate, in essence, they are pass rushing DTs. No wonder the Cowboys struggled against their front seven.

by rabblerousr on Nov 26, 2011 12:25 PM CST reply actions  

What bugs me is that I was rooting hard for McDonald to come to Dallas. The guy had been a situational rusher for the 49ers only and is now showing that he can get it done as a starter as well. Gives me hope for Lissemore.

As to the alignments, that is theoretically possible to look at, but I don’t have the data for that.

by One.Cool.Customer on Nov 26, 2011 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

cornerback

We need to draft a db. Anybody know who’s the best db in college?

by joshg333 on Nov 26, 2011 12:32 PM CST reply actions  

Cliff Harris?

Maybe…he’s a speedster.

by Rome One on Nov 26, 2011 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

i like harris

Possible 3rd round nab out of Oregon.

by matt575 on Nov 26, 2011 9:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

If anything I want an elite safety.

All elite defenses have them..

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN

by thebigham on Nov 26, 2011 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

And Rena is a very very trustworthy source

Rena – can you believe the Eagles got a second round pick from Arizona for Kevin Kan’t…I mean Kolb.

Seriously – The Eagles are going to use that high pick, along with their own second rounder – which is getting higher seemingly every week. to trade into the first round and select….

Dave Matthews…the rock star….

Reasoning…Like Casey, his last name is Matthews….

That is the only reason they picked Casey right? Seriously….right?

LOL

by Rome One on Nov 26, 2011 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

You need to talk to somebody about that Eagles fixation of yours. Seriously.

by One.Cool.Customer on Nov 26, 2011 1:35 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

This.

Romo One, please we get it, we all hate the Eagles but you go overboard

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN

by thebigham on Nov 26, 2011 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed , getting silly now..

Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
We Fight On !!,That's The Cowboys Way !!.
Go Cowboys!!

by scotscowboyfan on Nov 26, 2011 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah. I now think he hates the Eagles more than he likes the Cowboys.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Creasy729 on Nov 26, 2011 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

bummer

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN

by thebigham on Nov 26, 2011 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I went back and reread Raf's stories with Wes about the draft.

I misread it the first time, he said the S class is very shallow, not that there weren’t any good ones. And that if the junior S’s don’t come out, then you are better going after the deep CB class.

I don’t want to beat it to death, but you’ve said the safety crop isn’t deep, and if guys like Tony Dye won’t come out, that you’re better looking at corners if you need secondary help.

I am going to do a fanshot with links to Raf’s last 11 posts about the draft and talks with WB if anyone has missed them. It will put them in 1 place for you to look over. He not only discusses top prospects for many positions, but it is focused on the Cowboys needs and our possible range to draft in.

by Rena on Nov 27, 2011 6:25 AM CST up reply actions  

TJ McDonald would be my personal favorite.

I think he would fit perfectly into Ryan’s scheme of having guys who can be used interchangeably at corner or safety. With that being said, the economy of the draft is such that it may be easier to get a safety that fits Ryan’s mold later in the draft rather than getting a corner. As such, I would very much love to see us get a guy like Dre Kirkpatrick. He’s tall, can press, and can run with receivers. I think he is going to be pretty awesome at the next level.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Creasy729 on Nov 26, 2011 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

The Cowboys

Need Jenkins back….

Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old

by Mullin on Nov 26, 2011 12:40 PM CST reply actions  

Yep.

Mike Jenkins – Good.

No Mike Jenkins – Bad.

Matt Moore was quoted several times in the huddle as saying….

“Here’s the play…I’m throwing to whoever Alan Ball is covering…got it? Good.”

by Rome One on Nov 26, 2011 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

THINK JIMMYK IS ENJOYING HIS SATURDAY?

I WONDER WHAT HE’LL HAVE TONIGHT FOR HIS LAST MEAL?

The court is proceeding with the death sentence of the “Dream” team, a complete nuisance on society, tomorrow after at four PM EST. And thus far, there’s been no stay of execution issued by Tom Brady.

The process will be long and slow…it should take about three hours…and there will be a lot of deserved suffering…but in the end there will be nothing left of the Dream team and its fans to deal with for the remainder of 2011 and the 2012 playoffs.

Oh well.

Hope JimmyK has a tasty, hearty last meal.

by Rome One on Nov 26, 2011 12:58 PM CST reply actions  

yes but if they win

they will yet again ask if the eagles can make the playoffs. It pains me to root for tom brady thats more painful than smacking your ding a ling against a cactus

by centralkscowboysfan on Nov 26, 2011 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

If?????

If Kim Jong Il was in charge of the world we would not get to post pictures like this!!!!!!!

If……………..LOL

by Rome One on Nov 26, 2011 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

umm I don't know what to say to that

lol…but I guess dog breeding has taken on a whole new level. In order to get a quality stud you have to make the bitch look good

by centralkscowboysfan on Nov 26, 2011 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Seriously - The Eagles have no shot

A) new England wants to win to keep pace with Baltimore.

B) Vince Young is 0-2 with No TD’s and three picks versus the Pats.

C) Tom Brady.

D) Tom Brady

E) Tom Brady.

You get the point…..

by Rome One on Nov 26, 2011 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

something looks wacky with your Watt numbers, specifically the hit number. For virtually every player hits > sacks. I also know I saw Watt hit Big Ben twice.

For God and country - Geronimo

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Nov 26, 2011 1:03 PM CST reply actions  

yeah that is kinda interesting

you would think that he would have at least 4…

cuz you have to hit the QB to sack him yaknow?

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST

by I am Ironman!!! on Nov 26, 2011 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

No thats like saying an INT is a PD

Sack does not equal 1 sack 1 hit and 1 pressure.

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN

by thebigham on Nov 26, 2011 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep. No double counting.

by One.Cool.Customer on Nov 26, 2011 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

note use of Sarcasm font

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST

by I am Ironman!!! on Nov 26, 2011 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Except for strip sacks...right?

I believe they get the sack and the FF for those.

Rabid and luvin' it

by lonewolfz28 on Nov 26, 2011 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

yes, but no double counting on sacks, hits or pressures.

by One.Cool.Customer on Nov 26, 2011 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Sacks = QB taken down while in possession of ball
Hit = Contact with QB after he has released the ball
Pressure = Forcing QB to hurry a throw, or forcing them to scramble out of the pocket.

by Aaron Burtram on Nov 26, 2011 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

How about a strip sack

Recovered by the quarterback, who, attempting to pass, gets stripped by someone else?

2 strip sacks?

And does everyone in the way of the quarterback get a pressure? If so, it seems total team QBDP would be skewed for jail breaks that don’t end in sacks.

by CotySaxman on Nov 26, 2011 3:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

It's probably down to definitions.

By the PFF definition, a hit is when a QB is knocked down to the ground but not sacked, a pressure is when a QB is forced to move in the pocket in some other way than simply stepping up in the pocket to throw.

So if you say you saw Watt “hit” Ben, and PFF say he didn’t “hit” Ben, you may both be right.

PFF did give Watt a sack and two pressures against Pittsburgh. Interestingly, the official game book gives him neither a sack nor a hit.

by One.Cool.Customer on Nov 26, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

SAINTS AND PATRIOTS

A Double win tomorrow would be Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

by Rome One on Nov 26, 2011 1:25 PM CST reply actions  

Great stuff, a lot to think about Mr. Cool.

What is surprising to me, based on your conclusion that we need more productivity from the front, is that we don’t blitz more than we do. 22%. The Jets are all alone in the 40’s (with great cover corners). But back to Dallas, the last game was the best illustration that we need to get to the QB anyway we can, we are giving up too many big pass plays. Until the cavalry arrives in the form of new D-linemen, we need pressure from ANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE.

" Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. "
Samuel Beckett
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones

by stubabe on Nov 26, 2011 1:39 PM CST reply actions  

Nice THIS is good analysis

Not sure if you were planning on providing #s associated with pash rushing snaps (as compared to total snaps played) as I had requested in your prior article . . . either way, this is exactly what I wanted to see. Thanks.

Now, as far as the #s go, how do Rat’s #s compare to years previous? Rat is certainly worthwhile at NT but he seems as if he’s not as good as he used to be. I have long contended that Rat is a natural 3-4 DE and that his productivity would be greater going against larger but slower tackles as compared to centers and guards. I know he states that he wants to be a NT but Ware also is on record for stating he didn’t want to be an OLB – and look at what he’s done.

Rat to DE and Price-Brent or Lissemore to NT would probably garner greater “bang for the buck” while also be less grueling on Rat adn thereby extending his durability and career.

by Tyrone Jenkins on Nov 26, 2011 2:08 PM CST reply actions  

Ratliff

I had prepared Ratliff’s numbers but forgot to include them. Here they are:

2010: 466 pass rush snaps, 4 sacks, 4 hits, 24 pressures, 26.5 QBDP, 5.7% PRP
2009: 483 pass rush snaps, 6 sacks, 5 hits, 15 pressures, 21.0 QBDP, 4.3% PRP
2008: 431 pass rush snaps, 8 sacks, 8 hits, 23 pressures, 31.3 QBDP, 7.3% PRP

by One.Cool.Customer on Nov 26, 2011 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

thanks – it seems as if Rat has been somewhat consistent afterall…

by Tyrone Jenkins on Nov 26, 2011 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

7.3%, 4.3%, 5.7%, [4.9%] …

the clock is ticking.

For God and country - Geronimo

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Nov 26, 2011 9:49 PM CST up reply actions  

the need of a disruptive DL

The cowboys just need to draft a talented 3 down player

One guy I absolutely think is perfect for this team is billy winn

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!

by Archie Barberio on Nov 26, 2011 3:01 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

told ya raji wasn't as disruptive in pass rushing

lol

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Nov 26, 2011 4:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Anyone know a good site that keeps accurate stats for college defensive players?

by Aaron Burtram on Nov 26, 2011 3:34 PM CST reply actions  

<a href="http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sports-reference.com%2Fcfb+defense+stat" target="new">You’re welcome.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Nov 26, 2011 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks a mil

Sports-ref is just what I was looking for.
Take a look at Whitney Mercilus from Illinois. He is currently leading the NCAA in tackles for loss, sacks and Forced Fumbles this year. This being his first year receiving real play time has had a huge year with them, even if they as a whole have not. He is a DL and might be worth taking a look at if he enters the draft this year. But probably won’t have to sit around long before being picked.

by Aaron Burtram on Nov 27, 2011 2:09 AM CST up reply actions  

sorry he is 3rd in tackles for loss with 18.5

by Aaron Burtram on Nov 27, 2011 2:10 AM CST up reply actions  

espn

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!

by Archie Barberio on Nov 26, 2011 10:26 PM CST up reply actions  

went to espn and they leave alot of defensive statistics out. THey mainly focus on sacks and INTs. Not total tackles, FF, FR,

by Aaron Burtram on Nov 27, 2011 1:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Ellis was good

2007 – 12.5 sacks
2008 (last season) – 8 sacks

Meanwhile, Almost Anthony has never cracked 6.

Greg Ellis shows what a solid pass rusher SHOULD be able to do on this team. He was old and in the decline of his career but could still put up double-digit sacks because the defense had to concentrate so much on Ware. Spencer gets the same opportunities but only gets 1/2 the production.

Cowboys to the Superbowl

by Blue Eyed Devil on Nov 26, 2011 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

and a new position.

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN

by thebigham on Nov 27, 2011 6:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Idk if I’d say the data shows 3-4 DE’s can do much in terms of pass-rushing. There were only two or 3 over 7.5%, whilst all the best 3-4 OLB’s and 4-3 DE’s were over 10%. The two 3-4 DE’s that are really good pass-rushers are Justin Smith – absolute beast, top 10 player in the league, and Antonio Smith – not very good against the run.

by Ben24626 on Nov 26, 2011 10:24 PM CST reply actions  

There are usually only a couple of 3-4 DE's

that can really dial up the pressure in the NFL. A Seymour type is VERY rare. By that I mean get close to a 4-3 DE. Hatcher needs to stay healthy and just maybe he can be it; but I would still try and find another one in the draft this next year.

by burmafrd1944 on Nov 27, 2011 6:18 AM CST reply actions  

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