Dallas Cowboys News: Surprising 2011 Re-Draft, Murray As Starter, More
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Gil Brandt: If there was a re-draft, two Cowboys rookies would go in the first round - NFL.com
Brandt suggests that if the draft were re-done today, DeMarco Murray would be a first round pick and the first RB drafted. He also has the Cowboys taking Nate Solder over Tyron Smith because Solder is "ready to play right now," but Tyron would still be a first rounder.
Dallas Cowboys' DeMarco should get bulk of work in split with Felix Jones - ESPN Dallas
Tim MacMahon argues that DeMarco Murray should get bulk of carries, even when Felix Jones returns. The main reason, he says, is that Jones simply isn't a feature back, and the Cowboys drafted him specifically to be the change-of-pace back for Marion Barber:
Tony Romo owns November with a 15-2 career record as a starter - The Dallas Morning News
Let's hope that this stat means something for the next couple of games, because Romo is also 7-10 as a starter in December.
Seattle faces Ware here, there, everywhere - NFC West Blog - ESPN
Ware will present problems for the Seahawks. They've allowed 28 sacks, most in the league, despite already having a bye week. Defending Ware is particularly hard because he lines up all over the place: he has six of his sacks from the left side of the defense and six from the right, according to ESPN Stats & Information.
LB Bradie James on his Cowboys future: "The writing is on the wall'' | Dallas Cowboys Blog | Sports News | News for Dallas, Texas | The Dallas Morning News
Bradie James, Cowboys team captain and the leading tackler for the last six seasons knows that his time in Dallas is likely coming to an end.
"The writing is on the wall,'' said James, who is in the final year of his contract. "As soon as that happens, after the first game, the second game, the writing is on the wall. I'm a big boy, a grown man with a family. I know what time it is.''
James also said that winning is all that matters at this point in his career.
"My biggest thing is we've been here long enough, I just want to win," James said. "I don't care about whether I continue to lead the team in tackles and this or that. What matters is our legacy. We've been here long enough to where we understand that window is closing," James said.
Cowboys feel they are in good hands with Scandrick - Star-Telegram
Orlando Scandrick will start at right cornerback Sunday against the Seahawks. And despite Scandrick playing most of his snaps for the Cowboys as the third corner, Garrett said he considers Scandrick a starter anyway.
"Absolutely he is, and that's just the nature of the position he plays," Garrett said of the nickel back position. "I think everybody in the league considers that nickel back, that third corner, as a starting player, because so many offenses on first and second down and on third down, they get into 11 personnel with three- or four-wide receiver sets and you need that guy out there. You have starters in each of those defensive personnel groups. Some games those guys play a lot. Some guys they play less depending on the team you're playing and the situations that arise."
Will other teams copy the game plan Philadelphia used to demolish the Cowboys' defense? - The Dallas Morning News
Rainer Sabin asks whether Dallas' future opponents will duplicate the Eagles' game plan which used the Cowboys' aggressiveness against them, and argues that until the Cowboys prove they deal with what the Eagles threw at them, other teams will copy Reid's gameplan.
Dallas has chances to recover in NFC East - Tulsa World
Stephen Hawkins writes for the Associated Press that there will be plenty of chances for the Dallas Cowboys to recover in the NFC East. He sees the Cowboys in a three-way scrum for second place in the NFC East, and safety safety Abram Elam concurs:
"If we do what we have to do, everything will take care of itself," Elam said Wednesday. "We're only as good as our next game. If we don't handle our business this Sunday against Seattle, it puts us even further in the hole. All we can do is control what we have in front of us."
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Very poignant comment not only for football, but for life as well.
“If we do what we have to do, everything will take care of itself… All we can do is control what we have in front of us.”
Hopefully Bruce Carter starts over Brooking.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Nov 3, 2011 5:29 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
This is ridiculous for Gil Brandt
Adjusted pick — Nate Solder: The difference is Smith will be good, but Solder is ready to play right now because he was a five-year player and has more experience. Solder’s stronger and more polished.
Does he even consider the fact that Tyron Smith is only 20 years old, and projects to Dallas’ starting left tackle as early as next season, possibly? You can clearly see why the Cowboys took him where they did.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Nov 3, 2011 5:37 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
dont believe Solder is stronger...
by PFF, Smith was 5th best tackle in the game before game against philla….Solder was in top 4 really?
I would take Tyron over Solder over and over again…
before there was law, there were the Cowboys!!!
Solder's ceiling is about as high as he can touch with his fingertips.
Tyron will be a monster in 2 years and will dominate for the following 10. The guy is 20.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Nov 3, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
he's going to be fine
up until this game he was PFF’s #4 rated OT, this game killed his PFF rankings
Smith will be fine, we should be worried way more about Douglas Free
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
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by Archie Barberio on Nov 3, 2011 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Am I worried
About teams exploiting our linebackers over the middle in coverage? Somewhat, but not by the Seahawks, Zach Miller has not graded positively in the passing game by PFF this season. Not unless we play cover 2 again, which I doubt we will. Plus Bruce Carter should help that problem.
Will teams try to copy what Philly did? Maybe.
But we are not going to copy what we did against other teams. We are not going to play 2 super deep against teams that don’t have Macklin and Jackson as threats.
"I'm huunngray. I want some f**ken french tooast!"
That's true
But Brooking and Bradie aren’t going to stop sucking either :/
Homer alert!
As I recall Lee was good as soon as he got on the field. It’s not out of the question that Carter could be as well.
Solder is so tall he’ll probably have knee problems sooner rather than later, but he was on the Cowboy’s radar.
I agree that Murray seems like the better every down back. however it’s a small sample size. More input please.
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I'm a locksmith..and..I'm a locksmith. -- Frank Drebin.
So , we basically got 3 first rounders.
Tyron was obviously a first, Carter would have been a first if not for the injury and DeMarco should have been… wow what a good draft. I was really high on Carter and Murray before the draft and I considered them steals. Murray had better stats at OU than AP. I’m not saying he’s better than AP, but its nice to know.
by stegosaurus! on Nov 3, 2011 6:54 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
And to think of all the fans who complained about the 2011 Draft
1) TSmith everyone liked
2) Carter: great another injured linebacker
3) Murray: WHY ARE YOU TAKING ANOTHER FELIX? If you’re going RB then we need a thumper! Same old Jerry…he’s Al Davis.
I defended all the picks, but all I could do was laugh as the haters sounded off in full force.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Nov 3, 2011 7:42 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I did spend an awful lof of time defending one Mr. Bruce Carter
but its still way too early to know if im right or wrong.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
I was one of the skeptics on Smith until the Pre-Season
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Nov 3, 2011 7:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
yes there were
right before the draft it came down to the trade down people, the smith people and the watt people
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
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by Archie Barberio on Nov 3, 2011 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
In the immortal words of Deion - Whoa baby, slow your roll!
None of these guys have played 1/2 of a season. Murray has had a couple of very good games against suspect run defenses (at best). Carter has not played at all. Smith looks very good 80% of the time. However, he did get knocked on his a$$ and gave up the sack that basically ended the Lions game. While I hope all three end up to be pro bowlers I am not sure we have enough game tape to determine if these guys are destined for the ring of honor.
"Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but what you should have accomplished with your ability."
-John Wooden
The redraft at this point is ridiculous
On top of the fact, that everything Brandt says about Tyron Smith/ Nate Solder THE COWBOYS KNEW ALREADY.
Everyone knew that Smith would need some seasoning. What has Dallas done with their offensive line that indicated they were interested in immediate returns. Was it starting Phil Costa and Bill Nagy? Releasing Andre Gurode?
But why let the facts enter into this when you can make a controversial statement about the Cowboys and get hits. BTW, Gil Brandt…. what were his draft grades again?
As for DeMarco Murray… I love the kid, I’m as excited about his potential as anybody. But it’s two games. Really, one and a half. Let’s calm down a bit with the anointing oil.
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Nate Solder over Von Miller?…are you Freakin Kidding ME? If that had happened…..
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Nov 3, 2011 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions
That was my thought as well
I like Tyron Smith, but I would still like Miller more.
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Hmmm... other teams will copy Philadelphia's game plan, as if the personnel doesn't dictate the game plan.
Who is left on the schedule with wideouts as threatening as DeSean and Maclin?
The New York (Hakeem) Nicks.. that’s it. You have to have weapons to threaten someone.
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Yeah, I was about to say the same thing. At the end of the game, I was fretting
about the Eagles game plan as a blueprint, but then someone reminded me that the teams we’ll play would have to have the team speed the Eagles have. Like you said, how many can say that?
McCoy and Vick were factors also
On top of dealing with Maclin and Jackson, the DL & LB’rs had to deal with speed of Vick and McCoy. More than one time we had one of them trapped in the backfield, but ended up giving up positive yards. No other team has the overall team speed that Phily does. We need to come up with a plan by the next Eagles game, but we should not have this type of problem with anyone else.
"Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but what you should have accomplished with your ability."
-John Wooden
I'll be gald when Dallas does the dictating.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Nov 3, 2011 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions
You're happy when Dallas gets dictated too
That way you can say I told you so.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Nov 3, 2011 7:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
To (not too)*
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Nov 3, 2011 7:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Stupid take on your part.
You’re happy when Dallas gets dictated too
For years I have been pining for Jerry to prove me wrong. I would embrace it and readily admit it. I want Dallas to win more than you could ever comprehend.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Nov 3, 2011 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe mensa wants to win badly
I just think that he feels with the current roster, current GM and current coaching he feels we cant win
thats his right as a fan, I may not agree with any of that but its still his right
there are many fans like mensa who want to win badly but just dont believe Jerry as GM will get it done and doesnt believe the current roster is talented enough
I like mensa, I think he is very knowledgeable on many things , not on everything
I think he knows the team pretty well
he just wants changes and I cant blame him because I have had enough of no real GM myself
now I dont agree with most of what mensa says, but I think he is a fan just like anyone else, maybe a negative fan but hey thats his choice
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
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by Archie Barberio on Nov 3, 2011 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Chia I am more of a total tear down--total rebuild kind of fan.
I am one of those fans that would rather see 1989 to get to 1992. I think it’s the approriate way. Trying to fill in on the fly is what Jerry did in the latter part of the 90’s. It doesn’t work. This team isn’t 2 players away. Now the core is at 30 years old and we don’t have the younger players to replace them.
You are spot on about my take on Jerry.
The silver n blue is ingrained in my blood. I love the Cowboys. The silver helmets. The blue star. There are numbers that I revere. 33, 54, 79, 72, 28. 12, 88, 22 for 2. It sickens me to see the buffoonery going on in this team. I am hardcore. You should see my office. I have to admit half of it is LSU. The other half is Dallas. Dallas fans who think I want the team to lose to say the least are stupid. A lot of fans here think it’s more of a matter of me wanting to be right. Again just stupid.
Few fans comprehend how much I love the Cowboys. Too bad for them.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Nov 4, 2011 3:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I just think your misunderstood
I think you generally love this team, but your negative views or telling the truth sometimes people dont like hearing that stuff but it has to be said
a lot of people think it, they just dont say it for whatever reason
my dad hates Jerry Jones, he has been a fan since the early 60’s so he has seen what this team went through for a long time and after Jimmy left my father really had a grudge against Jerry Jones, still does
I wanted to ask him last night what his thoughts were on that exactly, do we go into full rebuild mode or continue this plug and play type of rebuild
I like my fathers view on the team because he knows so much and just keeps it real
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by Archie Barberio on Nov 4, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Why not go with one ILB and 3 Safeties..essentially more Nickel coverage
I would play Church to cover the TE and have Elam/Sensi back deep….Carter/James can split the downs against obvious Run/Pass plays…
i mean before jenkins got hurt it would have made more sense
i dont understand why walker, mccray, and church arent playing more 5 db nickel and dime sets
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 3, 2011 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Teams can try to replicate
what the eagles’ offense did to the Cowboys. But they will have limited success.
Only the Giants and Skins will have the similar familiarity that is impossible to replicate.
And, as I’ve said many times on this blog – and been shouted down each time – the Eagles have the fastest offense in football and it’s not close.
The Cowboys’ LBs all overpursued and were lazy with discipline. They ran themselves out of position on all the Eagles’ big plays in the run game. That can get tightened up easily.
For every move that can be made by the Eagles game tape, a counter adjustment should already be in place. Football is extremely complicated and is a fluid equation with variables adjusting at all times.
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"...Jones simply isn't a feature back, and the Cowboys drafted him specifically to be the change-of-pace back for Marion Barber"
Is this a fact agreed upon by the Cowboys organization?
If it is, then heads should roll.
But I doubt Jones was brought in to give MBIII a breather on 3rd down. There had to be a plan to move him into the feature back role and phase out the non-explosive and expensive MBIII
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In Hard Knocks 08 there was video/audio of the draft
Jason Garrett took Felix of Mendenhall because we “already had a complete back” in marion, and wanted a speed complement as well as kick returner
I been looking for that clip
but I know exactly what your talking about because I saw it too
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Where are the checks and balances?
Who steps in and says, “Hey offensive coordinator, obviously you want sexy depth at the 1st round pick to help you next season, but it’s my role as X,Y,Z to tell you that we’re drafting a starter in this slot. Potentially boring instead of sexy. Let’s get other opinions and I’ll make the final decision.”
Argh. Well, to Garrett’s credit, he was right in the short term. Felix Jones was the right playing piece to pair with MBIII, if you all remember. His explosiveness was bananas when his legs were clean and fresh and young. He was a home run hitter complimenting MBIII’s slap singles.
But, that same sort of guy could have been gotten as a UdFA. The undrafted free agent also eases the $ burden at the RB spot allowing for more flexibility later.
I wanted Mendenhall but I like F Jones and liked J Jones, and none of them are superlative NFL RBs.
hindsight
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never has been... he has always been the guy to keep fresh and run sweeps / screens
DeMarco can do both… but a game like the Rams he does need some breaks… Felix can definitely make our running game stellar, if we can get some decent yards out of Murray to open up the game for Felix.
Wow
The Redraft is a joke. Solder over Smith? Solder is only starting due to injury.
The Scheme didn’t work against Phili. Two deep safeties to eliminate the big play required better LB coverage than Dallas could do, especially with the Injury to Lee. Therefore if a team wants to mimic what Phili did, fine! I doubt we’ll be playing our safeties so deep after IT DIDN’T WORK.
Interesting... if the Cowboys win the Superbowl Rob Ryan could be gone
On Lunch Break they were talking about Garrett needing to have a plan at DC because Rob has been a DC for so long and both Rex and Buddy were DCs who became HCs. Only a matter of time, but hopefully we will have him for another 2 or 3 years at least. Wannstedt was her for 3 years before he became the Bears HC. This is Rob’s 3rd DC team but DW only had Miami before Dallas.
Win the Superbowl or even just get to the NFC Championship and it might happen. I think he’s at least here for 1 more year though… but like Wannstedt success can mean a promotion.
I think Jerry Jones will throw money at Rob Ryan
I want to see what Rob Ryan can do in the War Room on draft day. If he can be a superstar in there and get his voice heard and pick guys he wants/needs, then not only do the Cowboys benefit, but his resume does as well.
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Thowing money at him will do no good
He’ll get plenty of money as a HC somewhere and thats what he really wants, to be a HC.
In Romo we Trust
now just because Rob has had some success here.....
doesn’t mean he would make a great head coach; a la wade phillips. Now i do believe that he would make a better HC but how successful ?
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Id say RIP Al Davis, but i know your up there drunker than a monkey and clocking angels in the 40 yd dash.
RR wasn't Garrett's first choice. He is what was left over. I don't think Garrett's...
m.o. meshes with Ryan’s.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Nov 4, 2011 3:13 AM CDT up reply actions
They're talking about the Super Bowl on the Lunch Break?
Seriously?
by One.Cool.Customer on Nov 3, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
High hopes, or just high.
The great Blaine Nye said,"It's not if you win or lose, it's who gets the blame"...........Lock n Load
Yeah, not ruling it out either, but one step at a time.
by One.Cool.Customer on Nov 3, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I can honestly say I'm not planning a Feb. vacation in Indy.
The great Blaine Nye said,"It's not if you win or lose, it's who gets the blame"...........Lock n Load
neither am I
it would take a bunch of rookies improving. Cowboys rookies usually end up on IR….
But if it happens
You can all come to my house and stay!!!! It would be one hell of a BTB good time!!!
May the force be with the Star.......... always!!!
Dallas Cowboys football isn't just a game in my house, it is a festive holiday every Sunday!!!!!!!!
Dubs on the couch !
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Nov 4, 2011 3:15 AM CDT up reply actions
One good day at a time gentlemen. Remember the mantra.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Nov 3, 2011 7:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
his argument seems flawed to me
"The difference is Smith will be good, but Solder is ready to play right now because he was a five-year player and has more experience"
umm shouldn’t the fact that we picked a 20 year old be proof we were looking at future production, not production right out of the gate? Do you really think given a redraft, we would pick the guy 3 years older than Tyron, given that Tyron has been pretty decent on the whole this year? I don’t.
If we’re going to compare him to senior tackles out of college, shouldn’t we wait till hes at least 22?
So far, I’d have to say the results are good for Smith, despite his recent occasional struggles. At the very least, hes a monster in the run game. I think given this guy will be our LT of the future, and a real good one at that.
And please…Murray in the 1st? That alone proves that its way way too early to do a redraft. The guys played in 2 games. In one of those he was great in the other he got 8 carries…
Did you see Mr Vela's recent post about Smith?
The kid has the feet and the instincts to be a dominant, devastating run blocker and is already proving to be the best athlete and player on the O Line.
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