Ryan's Bullies: How Good Is The Cowboys D-Line? (Part I)
The Cowboys defense led by new coordinator Rob Ryan seemed a much improved unit in 2011. It made getting run over by the Eagles even more disappointing. Clearly a breakdown occurred that must be remedied. With the offense having trouble finding a rhythm and consistent success, it will be important for the Cowboys defense to play well in the coming weeks. Now with a 3-4 record, the Cowboys have little room for error during the "favorable" phase of their schedule. With starters Sean Lee and Mike Jenkins likely to miss some time, Rob Ryan will have to do some tinkering and continue to rely on all the players on the Cowboys defense.
During the defeat to our rivals, it seemed the Cowboys defense relied too much on run blitzes and linebackers and safeties to stop the run. Thus the game-plan to keep Vick corralled with less blitzing, combined with the absence of Sean Lee and the safeties playing in deep coverage, proved devastating. I wrote how these were major factors in the loss.
So I then began to wonder if the quiet efficiency of the defensive-front was really a sign of success or actually a sign of a lack of playmakers. Perhaps a mix of both? Rob Ryan has referred to his "bullies" up-front and commented on his belief in their success - but stated a bit more provocatively. I began to wonder how much truth exists behind Ryan's bold statements. The Cowboys front-three seems to win plenty of battles, but they rarely stand out by making big plays. Are they getting the job done even without making impact plays? Are the linebackers and safeties masking defensive-line deficiencies?
Taking a closer look at the Cowboys defensive linemen and how they compare to other 3-4 fronts in the league...
The Yuglies have often been discussed this season because of the many changes along the offensive line, but not much mention of the Cowboys Big Nasties has transpired recently. Perhaps it's because no flashy new additions occurred during the offseason. Perhaps it is simply par for the course; the big guys up-front are rarely relished in the limelight. Re-watching games, it appears the Cowboys defensive-line has prospered under the tutelage of Brian Baker and Rob Ryan. The defense has proved strong against the run and has been able to create pressure while sending a three or four-man rush. And yet defensive-linemen aren't often dancing behind the line of scrimmage after big plays. I don't miss the Russian Dancing Bear...but it made me curious.
Combined Player Stats:
I have gathered and compared the rankings and player stats of ten 3-4 defenses in the league, but left out the Ravens, Patriots, Bills, and Chiefs who all utilize a hybrid version with many 4-3 fronts. The following collection of player stats for every defensive-lineman on each team is from ESPN.com.
| D-Line Stats | Tackles (total) | For a Loss | Sacks | Fumbles |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cowboys | 71 | 5 | 4 | 0 |
| Cardinals | 87 | 10 | 4.5 | 2 |
| 49ers | 52 | 2 | 7.5 | 2 |
| Dolphins | 67 | 7 | 4 | 2 |
| Jets | 77 | 8 | 3 | 1 |
| Texans | 71 | 4 | 9.5 | 3 |
| Steelers | 53 | 7 | 5 | 2 |
| Chargers | 69 | 8 | 2 | 1 |
| Redskins | 64 | 1 | 13 | 1 |
| Packers | 57 | 5 | 6 | 1 |
| Average | 66.8 | 5.7 | 5.9 | 1.5 |
The Cowboys d-line rotations have managed just a few total tackles above the average for all the 3-4 defenses, but rank below the averages of every other statistical category. Among 3-4 defenses, the Cowboys d-line is in the Top 5 (of 10) in total tackles, but not in tackles for a loss and sacks. They are also the only 3-4 d-line without a forced fumble. First impressions would lead observers to believe the Cowboys d-line is nothing special and likely below average.
The Cowboys defensive-line appears to be getting the job done shedding blocks to make tackles, but the poor rankings in tackles for a loss, sacks, and fumbles could be considered proof that the team does lack "impact players" along the d-line? So, do the Cowboys just have a collection of average linemen that are doing their jobs but nothing more? There are teams that have double the sacks from their d-line. Perhaps even more discouraging, there are teams with twice as many tackles for a loss as well.
It's always difficult to rank 3-4 linemen based purely on stats. These Goliaths of football can devastate a play (like pushing two offensive linemen back into the pocket and freeing up a teammate to make the sack), but earn no statistic for their success. So I find judging the d-line based only on the sum of player statistics lacking, however necessary.
Individual Player Stats:
Seeing how individual Cowboys stack-up against the competition can also be enlightening, but can still inconclusive when comparing stats for defensive-linemen.
| Player - Team | Tackles (total) | For a Loss | Sacks | Fumbles | Player - Team | Tackles (total) | For a Loss | Sacks | Fumbles |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| C. Campbell - ARI | 37 | 4 | 3 | 1 | V. Martin - SD | 18 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| A. Garay - SD | 27 | 2 | 1 | 0 | R. McDonald - SF | 13 | 1 | 3 | 0 |
| J. Smith - SF | 26 | 1 | 4.5 | 2 | J. Wynn - GB | 11 | 2 | 3 | 0 |
| JJ Watt - HOU | 26 | 1 | 2 | 1 | K. Golston - WAS | 15 | 0 | 1.5 | 1 |
| D. Dockett - ARI | 21 | 4 | 0.5 | 0 | J. Hatcher - DAL | 13 | 0 | 2 | 0 |
| B. Keisel - PIT | 19 | 2 | 3 | 1 | D. Williams - ARI | 14 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| S. Bowen - WAS | 19 | 1 | 3.5 | 0 | P. Soliai - MIA | 14 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| J. Ratliff - DAL | 20 | 2 | 1 | 0 | R. Pickett - GB | 14 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| S. Pouha - NYJ | 21 | 2 | 0 | 0 | M. Spears - DAL | 11 | 0 | 1 | 0 |
| A. Smith - HOU | 16 | 3 | 4.5 | 1 | K. Coleman - DAL | 13 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| M. DeVito - NYJ | 19 | 1 | 1 | 1 | K. Langford - MIA | 11 | 1 | 0 | 1 |
| R. Starks - MIA | 18 | 2 | 1.5 | 0 | J. Odrick - MIA | 10 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
| M. Wilkerson - NYJ | 17 | 2 | 1 | 0 | S. Lissemore - DAL | 9 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
| BJ Raji - GB | 16 | 0 | 2 | 0 | D. Carter - ARI | 7 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
| A. Carriker - WAS | 11 | 0 | 4.5 | 0 | T. McDaniel - MIA | 7 | 1 | 0.5 | 0 |
These are a compilation of individual stats from players of the ten 3-4 defenses referenced earlier. Ideally, you would like to have at least one top-notch player in the Top 10. It appears Arizona has the most impressive showing with two Top 10 linemen in their 3-4 front (we'll explore the irony of this in Part II).
Unfortunately, Jay Ratliff is a little lower on the list than most fans would like, but he is having a respectable season. I am particularly happy with the two tackles for a loss. It was very disappointing when Ratliff had zero tackles for a loss last season, especially since I personally consider it one of the most important indicators to the success of d-linemen (especially in a 3-4). Linemen may have more 2-gap responsibilities and though successful still suffer in the sack column, but whether penetrating one gap or occupying two, either well-executed assignment against a run play should ideally lead to a tackle for a loss.
Then things get confusing. If the Cowboys rank below average in combined player stats along the d-line, you wouldn't expect much from the Cowboys individual players, especially after one of them ranks in the Top 10. Comparing ten 3-4 defenses would mean the Top 30 players should be considered the best "starters" of the 3-4 defenses in the league. How many players should a below average unit have in the Top 30?
Well, the Cowboys (tied with the Dolphins) have the most players on the Top 30 list. Even more surprising is that five Cowboys players have managed to make the list. This is likely a sign that the team successfully relies on a rotation along the d-line (and/or has dealt with injuries) and that there is no liability or weak link on the d-line. Impressively, Jason Hatcher ranks 20th even though he missed a few games due to injury. The fact that Sean Lissemore also made the Top 30 list and has never started a game is also promising and a testament to the frequency of his success whenever called to action.
The Cowboys may lack in impact plays from their d-line compared to other 3-4 defenses, but they can definitely trust in their depth at the position. Despite the lack of tackles for a loss and sacks across the d-line, the Cowboys appear to have five players that are performing as well as some other starters on 3-4 teams.
Is the Cowboys defensive-line rotation average at best because of the lack of impact plays? Are they still getting the job done for Rob Ryan's defense?
Individual player stats can be confusing and at times misleading. The Cowboys 3-4 defensive-line is not being credited for big-plays as often as other 3-4 defenses, but the Cowboys appear to have a strong rotation compared to other teams in the league. The combination of players stats shows the Cowboys defensive-line may only be average at best. Will team stats and defensive rankings reveal similar conclusions?
Find out more in Part II of Ryan's Bullies.
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It’s "Gentlemen, this is a football… simple:
1. Any. Given. Sunday.
2. Every play is a "big" play.
3. There is no "easy" schedule, no "easy" game, no "easy" play. No givens.
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Or Adversity’s going to butt-whup you and all the excuse-making but’s in the world will still only make whiners, not winners.
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The best observation from these stats is how involved all the dlinemen have been. Adversity help build a team, but so does a team mentality, and one great thing about Ryan is that he get everyone involved and contributing. Individually they may lot be the best, but as a unit…
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
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by Kegbearer on Nov 4, 2011 12:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
its not going to be good enough unless ratliff is a 5 technique with an equally competent 5 technique opposite him
with a true two gap eater monster nose in the middle
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 4, 2011 11:34 AM CDT reply actions
Part II
The findings may surprise you.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
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by Kegbearer on Nov 4, 2011 12:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Stats can be misleading
Other than the Eagles game, Rob Ryan had this D-line ranked #1 against the run. Hopefully the Eagles game was just an anomaly.
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Personally
I’m LESS concerned about the play of the Dline than I am about the OTHER LB’s (as in all of those NOT named either Ware or Lee!) It seems to me, THAT was the big weakness in the defense in that Eagles loss.
GO COWBOYS! GET SOME BIG D! AH-OOO-AH!
I thought about that
I also thought about how come we can’t do a hybrid 4-3 as well. Especially since Bradie and Brooking are weaknesses in the defense.
D line: Ratliff, Brent, Geathers (or Spears), Hatcher
Helps keep Rat one on one in situations, Geathers is just there really for sheer size. At 6’7" if he puts his arms up he has a good chance of deflecting the ball, then Hatcher because he seems to be developing nicely when given the option.
LB’s Ware, Lee, Carter (hopefully even though we haven’t seen him play).
The Garrett Guillotine demands more blood!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2011 3:30 PM PDT
If you're going to eat poison, you might as well lick the plate.
actually FF
IF we were to move to a more 4-3 Alignment I would go with this lineup:
DL-Ware, Ratliff, Lissmore, Spears
LB’s-Spencer, Lee, Carter
this gives you Ware and Spencer @ DE while Ratliff gets to play next to Ware(can you imagine a QB looking down at that?)
The rotations would remain similar as they are now, with Butler and Albright at DE, Brent and Hatcher at DT.
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Nov 4, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I think I've seen them jump into formations similar to this
without Carter, of course. But I think when they’re moving around they sometimes end up not in a base 3-4.
"Everything is on the One." -- George Clinton, Parliament/Funkadelic
With an improved defense, everything should be on the One.
Seems like the best 4-3 set up
Though I would prefer Hatcher over Spears and do like the creativity that can come with a 3-4
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Now on twitter: @kegbearerBTB
by Kegbearer on Nov 4, 2011 2:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I would put Spears at tackle. He is the big lane clogger.
Rat is the most disruptive d lineman. I would put him at de.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Nov 4, 2011 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
if you collapse the pocket with James and Ratliff you don't need 4-3
a 3-4 works great if a guy like Lee or Carter go in for a run blitz then back out to knock down the play action pass. Makes it difficult to check down. It seemed to work pretty well for the Eagles against us. Sometimes you can also use that to tackle from behind, Carter and Lee have the speed to do that and Brooking is also good at anticipating that play. A lot more effective for a 240lb guy who runs a 4.5 40 to do it then a 290lb guy who runs a 4.8.
Wayne Dorsey will be available in the 6th round
He could get up to 280 and I think he can improve his time to a 4.8
The best thing is that no one much knows about him
by Jonathan Stern on Nov 5, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I loved the list of the top 30.
That says depth to me – and I want to see more Lissy.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
The insights provided by your research
are both somewhat disappointing, and encouraging. Disappointing because I would have bet the D-Line would have graded out higher than it did; encouraging from the fact that everyone is involved and the depth is there. Would love to see more forced fumbles from this unit.
" Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. "
Samuel Beckett
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Maybe I just was watching a different film, producing stats...
but last game against the Eagles, the defensive ends appeared to have been scooped up in earth movers and pushed straight back through the course of the game….hello.
There is no right way to do the wrong thing. GO COWBOYS!!

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