The Defense....or LACK thereof.
Put yourself in Romo's shoes just for the moment. You've just worked down the field, the Giants front line is after you on every play. Your young OL is doing all they can but it's clearly not enough keep them at bay for long. The Giants are putting a safety over top and blanketing Dez downfield. Austin is running his route but you aren't sure just how healthy those hamstrings are. The linebackers are keeping tab on your favorite TE and that leaves FJ out in the flat. With just seconds before the pressure reaches you, Laurent Robinson comes into your vision and you throw a 71 yard pass perfectly into his waiting hands. Minutes later you score. You go back to your sideline, greeted with smiles and pats on the back for a job well done.
Before you know it, the Giants have ALREADY scored. Its seems like you just sat down a minute ago. Damn! WTF happend to our Defense?
Wouldn't YOU be pissed too?
That's the question EVERYONE is asking right now! WTF has happend to the Defense??????
I, for one, FULLY expected to see D Ware mauling Eli Manning. I'm not sure he even touched him the entire game. Yes, I know the man has a stinger that's been bothering him. Plus he's always double or even triple teamed at times. But if that's the case, then where's Spencer and Ratliff??? Ware should be attracting ALL of their attention which should leave lanes open for the rest to exploit. Is the Giants OL that good or was our performance just that bad?
And what about the secondary? Can they play any worse than they did Sunday Night? The only thing that can be said for our secondary last Sunday Night is AWFUL. In BIG BOLD LETTERS: AWFUL. Plain and simple.....AWFUL.
1. Terence Newman. This guy is writing the handbook on how NOT to play DB. His technique is just....well.....TERRIBLE. He NEVER looks back for the ball, he can't run very well and, in the Giants game, on one particular play to the EZ, he simply GAVE UP his coverage. When they showed the replay of the pass from Eli to Hicks I think it was, it shows Newman CLEARLY pulls up and doesn't even attempt to try and disrupt the play. And this is the guy that RR calls a great db???
2. Alan Ball. Another mediocre db who is clueless in coverage. He's always a few steps behind the WR and somehow the opposing qb seems to find him to target on third down.
3. Keith Brooking. At one time Brooking may have been a pretty good LB in Atlanta but in Dallas he is nothing special. He continually gets caught out of position in the flat while trying to cover the Rb's. He has no push and is easily shoved aside on running plays. His age is also a factor.
4. Bradie James. See above for Keith Brooking. They are sometimes mirror images of each other.
5. Orlando Scandrick. A little better than Ball in coverage but that sure isn't saying much. He was given a contract extension earlier which left me shaking my head in amazement. What's he done to EARN it? Scandrick is no better than an average CB who also has trouble in coverage. Every once in awhile he makes a play but is not consistent enough to be considered a decent CB.
6. Sensabaugh is a better than avg Safety but his play this season could be better. Can hit hard and at least shows some intelligence on where he needs to be on each play. He's not going to WOW you very much but does have his moments.
7. Elam. Has made some impact on safety blitzes but also has made a few poor choices on covering the deep ball. He does have value at safety but not quite the impact we would have hoped.
8. Sean Lee. This guy, along with D Ware (when healthy) is a friggin' BEAST on the Defense. He's also a ball hawk because he always seems to find himself near the ball, except on the deep pass. His INT in the Giants game was brilliant! Most LB's would have dropped the ball but even with a DISLOCATED wrist, the guy makes the play. As of right now, LEE is the BEST Defensive player on the Cowboys. He simply makes plays and doesn't let an injury keep him down for long. There's only one problem with him. He can't do everything by himself.
9. Ratliff. Great NT. Shoots the gap often and buries the qb. The guy is a monster when let loose on third downs. Great tackler in the running game. On occasion he gets pushed out of the way but on the whole, he's a keeper.
There are of course a few others but these are the main guys that are usually on the field.
Its also very simple what needs to be done IMHO.
CUT:
Newman
Ball
Scandrick
Keith Brooking
Bradie James
NONE of these players has ANY value in trading that I can see.
THEN you look toward the draft and fill these spots there if possible. Free Agency also should help.
The way it is now, the Cowboys D is simply not very good at stopping the opposing team. And it really doesn't matter who they are or what their record is. We just haven't done a very good job at being a Defense.
And until we DO make these needed changes, we will ALL be like Romo and asking WTF???
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do you think
they resign Spencer? His contract is up.
that's a good question.
If THEY think he’s shown enough to warrant his return, they will give him a new contract. I would lean toward re-signing him, if just to have some depth on the defensive line.
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Scandrick just got an extension
And as Drew Pearson said, resigning/extending his contract sends the message to the rest of the team that mediocrity will be rewarded. It’s completely contrary to the message that was sent when veterans like Mario Barber, Roy Williams, Marc Colombo and Leonard Davis were cut.
by CowboysFan_inDC on Dec 13, 2011 2:11 PM CST reply actions
and it makes NO sense to have given him one.
I just don’t get what RR is thinking calling him a good corner. Mediocre at best. Then again, when we let that horrible Jacques Reeves go a few years back, the Texans gave him a $20 million plus contract. Go figure that one out!
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A couple things here:
1. Scandrick isn’t mediocre; he’s one of the best 3rd corners in the league. He’s a tireless worker, fast, competitive, and tough. The kid of guy you want on a team. So the message sent is: work hard and you’ll be rewarded. If the Cowboys had allowed him to become a free agent, they would have paid a LOT more to keep him. Good move by front office. Sensabaugh? Not so much…
2. The rest of the guys on the list are almost certainly off the roster next year.
by rabblerousr on Dec 15, 2011 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
im not trying to say our corners are good or anything
but i dont think they are as bad as the general consensus around here thinks they are. im starting to take back my earlier feelings of rob ryan’s scheme. all i hear is that he puts people in positions to succeed but i think hes doing the opposite right now.
how can a corner possibly be playing 8 yards off on 4th and 3? i have a hard time believing the play called for press coverage but newman just backed off on his own. and we see it all the time. we had 0 sacks i believe, but watching the game, in my opinion, ware and company were getting penetration. i posed this question in another thread but ill ask again. are our corners really so awful that they lose their man in <2 seconds? i honestly think the answer is no, they arent that bad.
I take it then...
that the general theme here at this fanpost is that the defense is the reason the team lost against the Giants,
I don’t necessarily share that view exactly, although I’m not trying to downplay the big role the performance of the defense had in the outcome.
When I remember this game, 3 plays will always stick out…..
1- the fact we couldn’t stop the run with our Dline, which makes me question the talent we have there. The Dline seemed weak at run defense, and this has to change . The fact we couldn’t stop the 2 pt. conversion at the end of the game was particularly troublesome in allowing me to sleep.
2- The Bad punt by McBriar at the end is a real hurtful wound that is still sore.
3- of course, the missed pass to Austin, but not in the way most people will agonize over it. Most people will agonaize over it by saying “aw, if we could have only gotten the completion there, the game would have been over…”
The way I agonized over it was again a mismanagement of the game by Garrett. If we would have run the ball there, and not made the first down, the clock would have run, and the Giants would have to use a timeouit, where they didn’t have to because of the incompletion. The pass play was too risky in that situation in my opinion, and going for the win was more important. Garrett does not use the clock to his advantage.
If the Giants would have had to have used a timeout, they would have had a much harder time to get down the field and score to win. Maybe they would have, but the odds would be heavy against that, and the clock there enemy. They may not have been able to score the winning touchdown.
In the end, although the defense played the biggest role in the loss, I will not so easily discard what I saw. The special teams and offense could have easily outbalanced the defenses misgivings, and those mistakes are not so easily swept under the carpet by me to just blatantly cry out that the defense is a disaster. There have been too many games in the last few years where the defense has kept us in it, while the offense has been nothing but blunder after blunder.
Rob Ryan basically is working with the same players that Wade left, save a few. You cannot say that the defense is as bad as last year, and the year before last, we were one of the better in the NFL, so we know the players have the ability. But Demarcus Ware not doing well- That changed everything.
By the way Coakey, I want to spell your name with an L between the K and the E, but I can’t. That’s just a fan tendency of mine I guess.
if Dexter was out there, he himself would have accounted for at least 4 more tackles for losses on the RB’s, with Dat accounting for another 2-3. Small they were, but you couldn’t run away from them, and they will tackle you.
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by DallasPalace on Dec 13, 2011 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
So you are basically laying this one at the feet of JG....
I don’t necessarily disagree with this but it cannot all be attributed to him. The fact of the matter IS if Romo and Austin complete that pass, it was not only a badly needed first down but a potential score that would have sealed the game. I cannot help but wonder, even though Austin said he lost the ball in the lights (which seems highly suspect) just how healthy his hamstrings were if he can’t even lay out for the ball knowing how important that completion was.
I DO agree with your assertion on D Ware. He simply wasn’t himself and I’m guessing the Stinger was bothering him much more than he wanted to let on. Normally he is a demon against the Giants and his elite pass rushing skills usually allow him to harass Eli all night. This night, he was almost a non-factor. That as you say, changed everything.
Sure the defense has bailed out a once struggling offense this season when all it could do was go three and out and made us all wonder if it would ever get on track. That problem righted itself with the higher level of play from Romo and the re-surgent running game when Murray was racking up the yardage until his injury. You would think this would inspire the Defense to play even harder but the exact opposite seems to have happened.
The fact of the matter is, MOST teams with a 12 point lead with 3 minutes to go are able to protect that lead and win the game. We couldn’t and that is a MAJOR indictment on the Defense.
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I am laying this at the feet of JG
That is a head coach’s responsibility- to have the team prepared to play, and to give the team the best possible chance at victory.
Your conclusion that “It’s the Defense” is weak from the perspective that we saw chances for the Cowboys to upgrade the CB position in the draft and in FA, and Garrett did nothing. The coach works with what he is given, but he also should voice his concerns. Did he not know that Newman would eventually become “Oldman” as he is now being called?
This defense was never great at stopping the Giants, so if Ware is not his typical self, and no one steps up, is that Ryan’s fault? No, it still is Garrett. He is the head coach now. Ryan has been given the same defense Wade had to work with. There was no way the Cowboys were going to stop the Giants, it was a question of limiting them, and using the clock against them. Garrett does not use the clock to his advantage well, and he seems to be over his head as a head coach.
Please don’t act disturbed that there are people like me out here that have a real high standard of coaching for the Dallas Cowboys. It’s kind of an expected tradition, but one that hasn’t been around since the Jerry-Jimmy divorce.
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by DallasPalace on Dec 15, 2011 12:04 AM CST up reply actions
Yes Cowboy88
It’s a risky pass for many reasons, but the biggest is because Austin and Romo have to work on getting they’re groove together back. The reason why I would not have called a pass play is because I would have tried to put pressure on the Giants, and take a timeout away from them, or take it to the 2 minute warning.
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by DallasPalace on Dec 15, 2011 12:21 AM CST up reply actions
you go for the tie on the road, you go for the win at home.
Garrett called the right play, it was a lack of execution.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
Garrett botches many things that cost victories
Aside from the bad playcall that the pass was to Austin, he allowed alot of time to elapse before calling a timeout once the Giants took the ball down near the goal line on they’re last drive
He is bad at managing the clock to win a game if the game is tight.
didn’t he see the wisdom of saving time, even 10 seconds, to give the offense a chance to score a TD if they could to win rather than just go for another field goal? The defense wasn’t going to win it, that was for sure.
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by DallasPalace on Dec 15, 2011 12:15 AM CST up reply actions
so tell me then WHY other qb's target them so much and succeed at getting the ball DOWN the field on a regular basis against Newman?
He’s AWFUL!
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THE SECONDARY IS TERRIBLE
Consistently playing the receiver and never the ball except on occasion Jenkins will. If we had corners that could cover for three or four seconds Ware, Ratliff and Hatcher could get some incredible sack numbers or at least QB pressures. All out blitzes don’t work for Dallas because the corners can’t cover and always give up the big play. Total revamping in the secondary that includes getting rid of Dave Campo is Rob Ryan’s only chance to succeed in Dallas.
Campo is a dog
He shouldn’t just resign, he should become a monk.
That said, you just can’t ( in this league) give good QB’s that many chances to beat you.
Dallas shouldn’t have run Felix twice up the gut on that last drive. We knew the outcome if Eli was given a shot to stick it to us, so you have to go for the throat.
Another week where Garrett played scared. Not good.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
I would have preferred
pass on first or second down. Felix is not a pounder, but for sure, an incomplete pass on 3rd down was just dumb against the Giants. Calling a pass play was dumb there. Kill the clock on them Garrett! You just gave them an extra timeout!
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by DallasPalace on Dec 15, 2011 12:26 AM CST up reply actions

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