Grading Cowboys @ Buccaneers: Performances Of Note
Led by Tony Romo, the Cowboys collectively had a great outing against the Buccaneers on Saturday. Here are a couple of numbers that stand out from the game:
- The Dallas defense held Tampa Bay to just one first half first down. It was only the fifth time since 1991 that the Dallas defense accomplished such a feat. The 190 yards allowed are only the second time since 2007 that the team has held an opponent below 200 yards.
- Tony Romo needs 588 passing yards and seven TDs in the remaining two games to tie his own franchise records from 2007.
- The two penalties for a total of 15 yards were the fewest in a game this season.
Impressive numbers, and impressive individual efforts to go with it. But despite the solid win, like every week, some Cowboys players did their job better than others. Today, we look at how the individual efforts on the team graded out and we'll be using the Pro Football Focus player grades to do that.
Follow the link for PFF's detailed FAQ, which should answer the vast majority of questions about their grading system. PFF also have their own review of the game which is always worth checking out. This week they focus on Felix Jones, Martellus Bennett and the OLBs.
| Offensive line |
The Cowboys offense had another good game. They gained 160 yards on the ground, and Romo was clicking in the passing game to the tune of a 133.9 passer rating. A couple of points were also scored along the way. None of this happens without solid play by the O-line.
And for the most part, the line play was just that, solid. Not spectacular, but largely effective. The graders at PFF gave the line a grade of +0.2, an indication that good and bad plays balanced each other.
| WK 1 | WK 2 | WK 3 | WK 4 | WK 6 | WK 7 | WK 8 | WK 9 | WK 10 | WK 11 | WK 12 | WK 13 | WK 14 | WK 15 | |
| NYJ | SF | WAS | DET | NE | STL | PHI | SEA | BUF | WAS | MIA | ARI | NYG | TB | |
| Overall Grade |
-1.4 | -12.4 | -6.0 | +9.2 | -14.9 | +4.9 | +1.2 | +4.9 | +9.9 | -2.4 | -2.3 | +0.8 | +7.8 | +0.2 |
There are two things to note about the O-line:
One: Tony Romo could probably make any O-line look good. Slippin' and slidin', groovin' and glidin', Romo extends plays like it's nobody's business, and that ability was on full display against the Buccaneers once more. Yes, Romo got sacked twice, but that number would likely have been a lot higher if he'd been less mobile, and the corresponding evaluation of the O-line would have been a lot worse than it is.
Two: Doug Free got schooled. The Cowboys' offense gave up two sacks, two hits, and six pressures, Doug Free accounted for half of those with one sack, one hit and two pressures given up in pass blocking.
Here's how the linemen graded out individually:
| Free | Holland | Costa | Kosier | Smith | |
| LT | LG | C | RG | RT | |
| Total |
-2.8 | +0.8 | +0.6 | +0.3 | +1.3 |
| Run Blocking |
-1.2 | -0.3 | -0.4 | -0.3 | +1.9 |
| Pass Protect |
-2.0 | +0.3 | +0.8 | +0.3 | +0.0 |
Tyron Smith Rocks. That is all.
| The Running Game |
When a team runs for 160 yards, they must have done something right. Now, you would think that the Cowboys got a lot of those yards after they were up by 28 points to start the second half, as they were probably going to run the ball a little more in the second half, but that isn't what happened.
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Cowboys play selection vs. Tampa Bay |
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| Rushing |
Passing |
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| 1st half |
2nd half |
1st half |
2nd half |
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| Carries - ATT/CMP |
16 | 20 | 22/18 |
8/5 |
| Yards | 90 | 70 |
189 |
60 |
| Yards per carry / attempt | 5.6 | 3.5 | 8.6 |
7.5 |
The Cowboys did dial down their number of passes in the second half, and were less effective in the running game as a result. The Cowboys ran a lot more effectively in the first half, when their passing game was clicking as well. Once the Cowboys dialed down their pass attempts and focused more on clock management with their running game, the Buccaneers adjusted and contained the ground game a little better - but to little avail:
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Total Cowboys first downs |
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| 1st half |
2nd half |
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| Rushing |
4 | 6 |
| Passing | 14 | 2 |
| Penalties | 1 | 1 |
The Cowboys used the run game to run time off the clock and get one first down after another. Another telling stat for the second half strategy: the Cowboys had twelve 1st-and-10 situations in the second half. They ran the ball ten times and passed only twice. It was the other way around in the first half. On seventeen 1st-and10 plays, the Cowboys passed twelve times and only ran five times.
To get the kind of ground game working that the Cowboys ran in the second half, you need good runners who can get the tough yards, and you also need good blocking. Here's how the players in the running game graded out:
- Martellus Bennett (36 of 73 snaps, +5.8). Bennett had a monster of a game. Here's what PFF had to say: "You don’t often see tight ends do as much quality blocking in one game but Bennett, who dominated Bowers at the line of scrimmage and Foster at the second level, had one of the best blocking performances of any tight end all year. Kudos to doing a job that goes unnoticed."
- Tony Fiammetta (31/73, -4.7). Where Bennett excelled, Fiammetta looked like he was off his game on Saturday. He had a couple of very weird blocks where he seemed to choose the wrong guy to block, and others where he looked like he was simply throwing his body around, and too late at that. I really didn’t see any holes opened by Fiammetta.
- Felix Jones (43/73, +2.9). While Jones had the fumble that resulted in a TD, he ran very well. According to PFF, Jones forced six missed tackles, and picked up 83 of his 108 yards after contact, a stat that may come as a surprise to many fans. Felix Jones was a tough runner on Saturday. Jones had just two 100-yard games prior to this season, but added three more this year, with the last two coming in consecutive games against the Giants and Buccaneers.
- Sammy Morris (26/73, -0.1). Morris did a good job as a runner (+0.5) but picked up a -0.7 in the passing game for a dropped pass.
| The Passing Game |
- Tony Romo (73 of 73 snaps, +3.5). Not much to complain about with a 133.9 passer rating and four total TDs. Romo was once again money on the long passes, completing five of six passes that traveled at least 10 yards beyond the line of scrimmage through the air.
- Dez Bryant (50/73, +1.0) Four targets, four receptions, forty yards and a TD.
- Miles Austin (66/73, +0.7) Five receptions on seven targets, but one dropped pass drags down his grade. Laurent Robinson also comes in with a +0.7
- Jason Witten (73/73, -0.6). Great day as a receiver (+2.3), bad day as a run blocker (-2.5). Good thing Bennett was there to bail him out.
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Front seven |
You can slice and dice it any way you want it, when your defense holds the opponent to 190 total yards and one scoring drive, that defense did a good job. And what's particularly encouraging is that the defense did this with DeMarcus Ware (7 of 46 snaps) and Ratliff (9/46) out for the bulk of the game. Ware is dealing with a stinger that he re-aggravated on the second play of the game, Ratliff has a rib muscle strain. Neither played a single snap in the second half.
Against the Buccaneers, the defense started rolling with pressure up front. The Cowboys notched three sacks (Ware, Lissemore, Scandrick), two QB Hits (Hatcher, Spencer) and 11 QB pressures. Victor Butler alone got four pressures, Hatcher and Spencer each got two, Brooking Lee and Lissemore one each.
Of note, the Cowboys were able to get this pressure without relying on the blitz. PFF shows the Cowboys only blitzed seven times on 33 Tampa Bay dropbacks.
Here's how the front seven graded out.
| DL | OLBs | ILBs | |||||||||
| Starters | Backups | Starters | Backups | Starters | Backup | ||||||
| Coleman | Ratliff | Hatcher | Spears | Lissemore | Ware | Spencer | Butler | Lee | James | Brooking | |
| Snaps (46 total) |
17 | 9 | 28 | 19 | 20 | 7 | 34 | 39 | 41 | 8 | 15 |
| Rating |
+0.5 | -0.7 | +2.1 | +2.3 | +0.8 | +2.3 | +2.4 | +3.2 | -0.6 | +0.7 | -0.6 |
Alex Albright (11/46, -0.4), Clifton Geathers (11/46, +0.5) and Bruce Carter (5/43, +0.1) all got more playing time than they normally would have.
| Secondary |
- Mike Jenkins (39 of 46 snaps, +1.3). Shoulder harness or not, Jenkins played well and even complained that he didn't really get any action. I''m sure he meant on the field.
- Terence Newman (46/46, -0.2). Like Jenkins, Newman was only targeted once all game and had an otherwise uneventful evening.
- Orlando Scandrick (38/46, +1.6). His stat line reads more like that of a linebacker. One sack, one QB hit, leads the team with six tackles, one of which was for a loss. In coverage he was targeted four times for two receptions.
- Gerald Sensabaugh (45/46, +0.6) and Abram Elam (46/46, +0.0) didn't have a lot to do all day.
If you're wondering where all the Tampa Bay passes went, 19 of 24 targeted passes (two more were thrown away, one was batted down by Spears) were thrown less than 10 yards beyond the line of scrimmage. And 11 of those 19 were thrown for less than 9 yards straight up the field and right between the numbers.
Nothing wrong with keeping the opponent's passing game bottled up and making them dink and dunk their way up the field, right? True, except if you have the Cowboys' linebacking unit trying their luck in coverage. 11 of 13 passes targeted at the linebackers were caught, while only 6 of 11 targeted at the secondary resulted in receptions. Bruce Carter is supposed to be great in coverage, let's hope that holds true once he gets a starting job in 2012. If not, the Cowboys will need a linebacker with coverage abilities.
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
the running total on Tyron Smith:
culumative Grade is 18.7….still projected to reach 21.3 overall for the year
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 19, 2011 8:23 AM CST reply actions
We need to flip Free and Smith next year. We have found our Left Tackle for the next 10-15 years.
He’s playing on the right. Free will be great at right Tackle.
I hope we can resign Spencer, but I’m concerned that he’ll be offerred a big contract from a team running a 4-3 and needing a DE. I’d like a better pass rush from him, but we have too many other needs on D to worry about replacing him, unless by some miracle we can afford Mario.
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As much as I been killing Costa all season
I thought he had a decent game. Couple of times I noticed a nice push up front. and when is Tyron going to man the left side of the line?
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I think any controversy over the idea of the tackle swap has probably been put to rest over the past few weeks.
by DerUbermensch on Dec 19, 2011 8:38 AM CST up reply actions
he had a good game
but I still strongly dislike him
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 19, 2011 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
Costa has gone from terrible to merely bad
Good job him!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Dec 19, 2011 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
No Gerald McCoy to face
I’m betting the Eagle DT’s make life a teensy weensy bit tougher for him.
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yeah, he was able to hold serve in the pass protection
but i noticed him getting floored in the run blocking, maybe why fiametta was “confused” on who to block. props to marty b making it easier to just run outside instead, the best 2nd round blocking TE ever drafted
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 19, 2011 7:01 PM CST up reply actions
yeahhh
Tyron is a Left Tackle and Free will be more than adequate for a Right Tackle. They might as well plug him in right now so we can know what we have going into next season..
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Flip mode is inevitable.
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by Lord Humungus on Dec 19, 2011 9:17 AM CST up reply actions
I'll go one better...
Tyron is definitely the LT of the future. No brainer there.
But I think Free is actually a GUARD. Yes, a guard. He’s more finesse in his blocking, he doesn’t have great footwork, it’s good but not great, and is more inclined to block interior DTs than quicker DEs. Also, he pulls and blocks at the 2nd level better than most OGs I’ve seen.
They boys should move him to RG and DRAFT, yes draft, a RT.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 19, 2011 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't be opposed to this
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 19, 2011 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
Hell no! Free is a good LT and will be a great RT.
Moving him to guard would be a big mistake. Maybe later in his career but not now
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by DIRE WOLF on Dec 19, 2011 11:16 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Thank you.
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by Nickthegrip on Dec 19, 2011 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
Free got the job done last year and looked good, proving he could play tackle
I just don’t get it this year, I’m hoping it’s a nagging injury, the back or something.
Nothing wrong w/having him at RT though if Smith is good enough for LT.
And how about Ware at +2 with only 7 snaps!
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by Realist Larry on Dec 19, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not saying he's chopped liver
If you had a WR who was pretty good at filling in for RB, it doesn’t make him a RB.
Free has the skillset of a OG to me. He’s a run blocker; always has been. He can PLAY LT and do fairly well (as he has), but he’d be better at OG. Through week 12, he’s given up 5 sacks and 19 pressures and has committed 9 penalties. That’s actually not that bad – but think about DM and FJ running between up the 4 or 5 holes w/ Free at guard. Think about the sweep w/ Free out front blocking.
I’m not the only one w/ this opinion – PFFgraded Free as the best run blocking tackle in the league last year.
http://dallascowboystimes.com/2011/11/whats-wrong-with-doug-free/
AGain, I’m not saying Free isn’t a pretty good LT or that he can’t play there – but he’d be a All-Pro guard. RTs are fairly cheap to find (Tyson Clabo re-signed w/ the Falcons this year for far less than what Free received) and should be fairly easy to find. But All-Pro pulling guards are almost as rare as LTs.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 19, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
how did he grade as a passblocker last year? I thought it was pretty well
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by Realist Larry on Dec 19, 2011 5:59 PM CST up reply actions
Pretty well is a good description
He could be ELITE at OG though (I think).
It looks like he’ll be moved to RT so we’ll get to see how he does there for a while…
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 19, 2011 6:07 PM CST up reply actions
He was a little better than average for the year last year.
At least according to PFF. He had a 2.6 for the year, with bad games against WAS, NYG, JAX, and IND.
This year, he is at -0.3 for the year, with a horrible game against SF, and bad games against WAS and TB. Take out that SF game, or even if he only did half as bad (he was graded -4.4) and he is about the same as last year.
His run blocking was way better last year, but his pass blocking has been about the same.
by Baked Potato Soup on Dec 19, 2011 6:34 PM CST up reply actions
he would be a great guard but I think Free is Pro Bowl material at RT
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 19, 2011 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
Without a doubt
And an offseason with Costa and Killer K and Nagy this line is ready for whats the term now “Beast Mode” haha
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Arkin son, the Ark
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 19, 2011 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
I get them confused
So Arkin is the one everyone is high not Nagy?
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I don't buy Ark or Nagy
But, Cordy Glenn, David DeCastro or Kelechi Osemele – all guys who can play 2 positions (either C/OG or OG/OT).
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 19, 2011 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
if DeCastro is there its gonna be a tough decision
you insert him instantly and with Free DeCastro Smith you have 3 huge talented pieces for your line
DeCastro next to Tyron gives me chills
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 19, 2011 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
I am higher on Arkin than Nagy
I think Nagy is serviceable but not a starter
other people are high on Nagy, I am high on Arkin
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 19, 2011 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
I think they're both likely garbage
I’ve seen Nagy play and he made Costa look good out there.
When it comes to Arkin the coaches have so little faith in him that they played a 7th round draft pick in front of him, then signed two JAGs off the street to put between Arkin and a starting job mid-season.
It’s not good when the coaching staff has so little faith in a guy they’re bringing in Daniel Loper.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Dec 19, 2011 5:51 PM CST up reply actions
Hey now.
Loper was 2nd Team All Conference in college. And he’s on his 4th team in 7 years, actually 4th in the past 4, so he has a ton of experience. It’s hard to beat out a guy like that.
by Baked Potato Soup on Dec 19, 2011 6:46 PM CST up reply actions
Why wouldn't you be high on him?
He has the pedigree – 4th round pick.
The measurables – like a less athletic Kosier.
And, he was unable to beat out a 7th round college backup and a journeyman that was cut by the Redskins to even get on the field for one play so far this season.
If that doesn’t scream bright future, I don’t know what does.
by Baked Potato Soup on Dec 19, 2011 1:55 PM CST up reply actions
Totally ignore the facts that he is a rookie small school OL who needs time to clean up his technique and do S&C.
It would be a miracle if he was ready to start this year.
That 7th round college backup played for a powerhouse OL school and who was named
2010 ALL-BIG TEN CONFERENCE FOOTBALL HONORABLE MENTION (COACHES): Bill Nagy, Wisconsin
The journeyman had strength and a lot of experience.
The last I had heard
was that Arkin After starting off well, plateued. He Hit a point where is wasn’t progressing, at a sufficent rate to give the coaches confidence….
And BPS…there is no shame being less athletic than Kosier…..Koiser is one of the most athletic Linemen in the league…
and If I remember correctly Arkin compares fairly well with Tyron Smith….
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 19, 2011 5:46 PM CST up reply actions
I'd love to see him be a great player.
My question, though, is what has he done that would make anyone think that is the case? As you said, he wasn’t progressing enough, so that even when those 2 all pros in front of him got hurt, he still didn’t get on the field.
I don’t know that we’ll see Dockery and Holland back next year, since they will both be 32 and have injury histories. Nagy would need to make a monumental leap to be a quality starter next year, because he was awful this year, shocking no one that saw him in the preseason. And Arkin would have to make an even bigger leap, because as noted, he actually instilled less confidence in the coaches.
The Cowboys don’t have time to wait a couple more years on a guy that will likely be a backup at best.
by Baked Potato Soup on Dec 19, 2011 5:58 PM CST up reply actions
How did I ignore any of those facts?
Was Nagy not a 7th round draft pick and a college backup? I don’t care if he was All Valley Karate Champion, he lasted to the 7th round for a reason, possibly because he was projected to go undrafted. He looked bad in preseason and worse in the regular season.
Dockery had even better college accolades and was a starter for the Bills and Redskins. He also got cut by both teams. This year, he got hurt and then cut, was immediately signed by us because we didn’t like the slow, strong, injured players we had on our own roster in preseason, was awful for one game, and got hurt again.
Then we resigned one of the slow, strong, experienced, injured guys that we had previously cut.
Through all of that, I don’t think Arkin is even allowed on the field for post game handshakes.
How does any of that contradict what I posted earlier?
by Baked Potato Soup on Dec 19, 2011 6:15 PM CST up reply actions
Ok, you picked out all the negative stuff to post.
Ignoring that almost never rookie OL’s play their first year. And if they do it is rare that they actually do a good job.
No one really believed that Arkin, a 4th round G from a small school would come in and actually be ready to play his rookie year. And the fact that Nagy was doing as well as he was was also a major surprise.
Again, even Free took several years before he stepped foot on the field for the first time.
Nagy, Kowalski, and Smith are all rookies and have all started this year, and that’s just on our team. I wasn’t surprised at all that Nagy did as poorly as he did, cuz he looked bad in preseason. I think he only got the start because Arkin was even worse than they expected. Free took several years to start, 3, because there were legitimate players in front of him. There were bad players in front of Arkin, and even when they got hurt, they weren’t letting him on the field.
Whatever, though. I hope the guy becomes the next Larry Allen. Well, ignoring that LA started 10 games as a rookie. I’m just saying that I have seen or read zero that would lead me to believe that will happen.
by Baked Potato Soup on Dec 19, 2011 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
Well I told you guys that Free would have issues with Clayborn
Now do you guys see why I wanted to draft him? Dude has got Skills….
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 19, 2011 8:43 AM CST reply actions
Lol Free had troubles with Claiborne but Bennet man-handled Bowers
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by Cowboys_Attack on Dec 19, 2011 9:56 AM CST up reply actions
what to know why that happened?
I would Read this:
Clayborn is Basically a younger, quicker more explosive version of Jay Ratliff….
think about that…
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 19, 2011 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
I just dont see him as an OLB
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 19, 2011 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
this is what I said about Claybourn in that post
the funny part was, a year ago I thought he was a top 10 pick
I happen to always grade Iowa defensive players high, idk why but I just do
this year I really grew less interested in him, he could play in a 3-4 but he would have to beef up to 300 imo
he is perfect for a 4-3 now I have seen some draft sites even say this guy can standup as a pass rusher, which is interesting to me
I think he would fit a team like the Bucs Vikes Eagles idk I can just him as a fit for one of those 4-3 teams
I think he is a solid player, he just lacks the explosion for a top 15 pic
he went to the first team I said he would be a perfect fit for, go figure
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 19, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
and if you notice Chia
I didn’t say anything about OLB
I wanted Clayborn for the RDE
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 19, 2011 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
I do remember you talking about him as a OLB last year too though
regardless Clayborn wasn’t even in the cards for us, he looks like a 43 player anyway
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 19, 2011 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
I was thinking that he Could play OLB
but not every down
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 19, 2011 5:48 PM CST up reply actions
Free has had issues with everyone this year
He’s not a top 15 Left Tackle.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
I've debated this myself
Who are the 15 LTs that are better than him right now?
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 19, 2011 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
According to PFF, the following LTs are better than Free this year.
Jason Peters
Tyson Clabo
Eugene Monroe
Joe Thomas
Donald Penn
Michael Roos
Jordan Gross
D’Brickashaw Ferguson
Duane Brown
Andrew Whitworth
Matt Light
Jermon Bushrod
Jake Long
Trent Williams
Branden Albert
Max Starks
Jared Veldheer
William Beatty
I think that’s 18. If you eliminate penalties, he’d be better than Beatty, and he and Starks would be tied (Veldheer would move above Starks). It’s a decent jump from Starks to Albert, per them.
by Baked Potato Soup on Dec 19, 2011 6:25 PM CST up reply actions
Shouldn't the OL's numbers be independent of Romo?
If I understand the way PFF grades, which it is likely that I do not, then shouldn’t each player get watched individually, regardless of what other players do? If that’s the case, then Romo’s mobility and elusiveness wouldn’t be a factor in their grades, right?
Now that the games are available for replay, I’d like to see the writers do PFF style grading of their own on the team, and then see how it compares. I know that was done some for certain OL in the preseason, and think it would be awesome if it was done for the regular season. Maybe like, a rotating thing, where each guy does a different unit each week. I’m particularly interested, as I think PFF has their own biases despite their claims not to. It’s interesting to me that there are tackles that have given up fewer sacks and pressures than Smith, but are rated lower. Also, that PFF consistently rates Matt Ryan as one of the top QBs and consistently does not give Romo much love.
by Baked Potato Soup on Dec 19, 2011 8:59 AM CST reply actions
Maybe, maybe not, and I’m not sure I know the full answer. But consider this: PFF essentially grade how well a lineman blocks a defender away from the QB. If you had a completely immobile QB, a block would be unsuccessful if the defender gets to the QB. Now consider if that QB takes one step back and the defender doesn’t get to the QB. Would the same block still be graded as unsuccessful?
I don’t know for certain, but I’m pretty sure that in that hypothetical scenario, the lineman would get a better grade, because effectively the block was successful. There is obviously a limit to how far you can take this analogy because the graders at PFF are no dummies, but a passer with a good pocket presence will make his line look better in terms of the individual grades.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 19, 2011 9:28 AM CST up reply actions
was this Lees worse game this year?
hes a monster though and i hope and pray Carter is 75% of Lee.
its preseason watch the players individually. igor is garbage!
by yehti on Dec 19, 2011 9:18 AM CST via mobile reply actions
No
He graded out slightly worse against the patriots (-0.9), a lot worse against the Eagles (-3.6) in the game he got injured and also in his first game back with a cast against Buffalo (-3.2).
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 19, 2011 9:34 AM CST up reply actions
id like to see the run/pass split of lee's grade
i have a feeling his pass grade is rather poor.
Run 0.8
Pass Rush 0.6
Coverage -2.1
Penalty 0.1
by Baked Potato Soup on Dec 19, 2011 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
Lee is just not fast enough to cover the TE/RB out of the backfield
I hope Carter can
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
Speed is not everything
Lee can cover in short areas because he can diagnose the play quickly and beat a TE/RB to a spot. Can he cover Jermichael Finley down the seam? No, but what LB can?
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Lee was the 2nd fastest player at Penn St
including backs, DBs and WRs…dude is pretty damn fast for a LB and covers really well
In Romo we Trust
actually Terry
Blings is Correct….
While Chuck Norris does has very good Short area quickness(ran his 20 yard Short shuttle in 4.17)
He does not have a great top end(ran a 4.6 40 yard dash)
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 19, 2011 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
And he's not very good in coverage.
by Baked Potato Soup on Dec 19, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
compared to Brooking and James
My Great Grandmother (who has been dead since 1983) would be Outstanding
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 19, 2011 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
Compared to them this year, he has been better.
Compared to them the past couple years, he has been about the same.
by Baked Potato Soup on Dec 19, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
ypu
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 19, 2011 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
yup
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 19, 2011 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
What inside ILB can cover TEs and RBs on a regular bases?
Put an ILB on Witten and watch him have a career day.
IF you're gonna act like a turd, go lay in the yard...........Lock n Load
To everyone
Having one hand this for half the year has effected him, hes still at the point but can’t always wrap up for pass deflect.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
Patrick Willis
Best in the biz at the position. Nothing he cannot do.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
I agree, he's one of the very few that cover better
Shame he isn’t playing against the Stillers tonight.
In Romo we Trust
actually
Other than Top end speed
Lee> Willis
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 19, 2011 5:49 PM CST up reply actions
Wonder how to tell who is who there ...
and who is who here.
I expect that made a lot of sense. :)
You know what I mean.
by bloodyhanded on Dec 19, 2011 9:32 AM CST up reply actions
Well, we could pick out Rena, TarPaul, ScottMaui, Terry
and the big boys Dave, Brandon, Aaron and Tom.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it.
I think with a full offseason with the new strength and conditioning coach
Will allow him to hopefully keep/ build up his strength while increasing his speed/ shiftiness which will ultimately help him as a receiver
Fulton Greenwall: Perhaps we should slow down just a teensy-weensy bit?
Ace Ventura: Nonsense poopy-pants!!
by I am a Romosexual on Dec 19, 2011 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
At the end of the day, it’ll be a matter of price and what MartyB would like to be. Will he stay in Dallas and be paid to be a blocking TE? Or will he take his chances somewhere else, and try to be the featured guy with a significant role as a receiving TE?
I think Bennett will seriously test free agency to see what his market value could be.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 19, 2011 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
Agree. He’s making something like $500k this year I believe. The FO should offer him a 4 yr, $2.5 million contract w/ about 20% of the guaranteed. If he doesn’t take it, let him walk and pick up the best blocking TE in the draft in the 6th round.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 19, 2011 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
But just think if he can bring something these last few games in the way of receiving...
then that’s an extra thing for defenses to worry about.
by TheCowboyFan on Dec 19, 2011 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
Absolutely
He doesn’t like the tough coaching (that he so badly needs) so let him go play in Cincy or someplace that will coddle the bonehead.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
As with most departing Cowboys...
SOMEONE is going to Canty (aka overpay) him.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
he isnt coming back
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 19, 2011 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
Hey OCC
Did Brooking really grade out to a 0.6? I thought he had a sack (which should skew the #s a little more in his favor – no)?
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 19, 2011 10:22 AM CST reply actions
Yes, Brooking is +0.6. He did not have a sack. He did come in on Scandrick’s sack and helped take Freeman down, but the sack is credited to Scandrick. The cameras however did show Brooking after the sack, so it’s easy to think he actually got the sack.
Brooking did have a fairly good day though. On only 15 snaps he got 3 tackles, one for a loss and is credited with a QB pressure. However, run defense (0.6) and pass rush (0.3) are offset by pass coverage (-0.3) where Brooking allowed two receptions on two throws his way.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 19, 2011 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
it looked like one of those .5 sacks for each guy honestly at first
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 19, 2011 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
I underestimated Fiametta's value to the running game
Despite his…score (whatever), his mere presence has LB’s waiting in their gaps rather than charging into the holes to fill. That’s big for any RB.
Brooking got worked badly in coverage by their TE. Seeing him try to run with anyone is painful.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Miles Austin
Although he did drop the one pass, one thing I like is that he covers up the ball, especially late in the game, preventing him from being stripped after the catch. These little things will count as the games get tougher and more meaningful.
Need to shore up a couple things that didn’t end up hurting us, but are minor things that can swing a close game:
- Dez making sure he’s not letting the ball hit him in the facemask. He could end up dropping one in a crucial situation if he’s not careful (a la Jackie Smith)
- Elam ‘interfering’ with the reciever when the ball was un-catchable. If the ball is that far away, don’t even give the refs a chance to make a bad call. Need to be smart in those situations.
Glad to see that Bennett is having some success.
Speaking of Miles...
How crazy is it how regularly he just takes the ball away from defenders? Like, literally just takes it out of their hands/arms, like, “thanks for holding that for me.”
by Baked Potato Soup on Dec 19, 2011 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He attacks the ball like no one else Ive ever seen
Miles, Romo and Witten make the Cowboys passing game work.
by playactionman on Dec 19, 2011 11:32 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
LOL!
Yeah Miles high points/attacks the ball like no ones business. I love it. He will be THE major factor in the coming weeks. Of course the line giving Romo time is a must.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
lmfao
"thanks for holding that for me."
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 19, 2011 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
That's one of the most impressive things about him. He's freaking strong, and I love the
way he fights for the ball. It’s no wonder Romo trusts him so much.
i think the dez thing is on romo
one was the worst “spirals” ive seen come out of tony’s hand.
Dez does seem to...
“double catch” more than he should.
After reading all of these stories and seeing the video about how big and soft his hands are and how he simply catches anything in his vicinity during camp and practice, I’ve been a little disappointed in how often he bobbles the ball before catching it in the games. Several drops have been solely on him.
We’re not talking T.O. or RW level drops here, but enough to make me nervous sometimes when Romo throws in his direction.
Then, he comes in with that nice scoop just above the ground in the Tampa game and completely bewilders me. I wonder if he concentrates more on the tough catches and loses focus on the “easier” ones?
Rabid and luvin' it
how do explain why it first hit him in his faceguard??
That had nothing to do with the spiral of the ball, which I thought was fine by the way.
In Romo we Trust
The pass was extremely wobbly.
I don’t know if that’s the reason it hit him in the face first, but I suppose it’s possible.
by Baked Potato Soup on Dec 20, 2011 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
Not to change the subject but,
The Iggles looked good last night destroying the Jets. They were at home and we get them at home this Saturday. I’m going to be super pissed if we lose this Saturday and if Filthy wins the division, I can’t described how pissed I’m gonna be.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
Babe said it was odd, but after the game all the players wanted to talk about the Philly game coming up, not the win they just had.
He said they want their pound of flesh from Philly.
IF you're gonna act like a turd, go lay in the yard...........Lock n Load
Good - get in the right mind frame -
Eagles pose multiple threats so a great team to face prior to the big showdown if it happens.
I will quit football if the unthinkable happens.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
Great to hear.
Some people on here are suggesting that we rest all the starters for the Giants game. I say screw that!! Go kick some Eagle butt Saturday! Rest is for losers!
"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
They can't afford to be resting anyone...
unless it’s in the second half after they’ve already built a 3 or 4 TD lead. This team has had so many lineup changes due to injury, that they’re still learning how to work together. Coaches don’t normally rest players on teams that aren’t operating on all cylinders with some kind of consistency.
Sure, there may be some special cases at certain positions. Morris and maybe even Chapas getting a few more snaps to spell Felix if game situations allow it would be nice. But, I’d rather see Felix learn how to follow Fiammetta’s block like Murray was doing. He still doesn’t seem as comfortable doing it.
The rotation on the defensive front 7 should give Ware and Ratliff a rest again if the game situation allows it like it did Saturday. They need to get more of a rotation going there anyways. Lissemore has looked good spelling Ratliff and the DE’s. Heck, Spears has even looked good in spot duty. Butler and Albright haven’t looked pathetic spelling Ware and Spencer. Get them used to rotating and staying fresh.
But, if they’re fighting tooth and nail like most NFC East matchups end up being…no way should they rest anyone. Laying down for the Eagles should never be an option.
Rabid and luvin' it
Agree. Rome One is all over the place today saying to treat the Eagles game like a bye week.
"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
Hey OCC
When you were speaking about Free’s bad day, you said the Cowboy’s Defense gave up 2 sacks…. etc..
Hey Aaron
When you were making that comment … oh look , a bird … etc.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 19, 2011 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
Nope
Still says Defense, not Offense… Which I think you meant
by Aaron Burtram on Dec 19, 2011 5:59 PM CST up reply actions
EXACTLY whats wrong with these stats
When the outcome of the game was at stake, everyone played great. When the outcome was decided (halftime), the effort and grades flattened out.
There needs to be a factor for performance when it matters. I don’t care that certain guys mail it in with a 3 TD lead.
Also, It would be better if the grades were adjusted based on the opponent’s season grades. A big day against Tampa is good, but not great. They are not the Eagles or Giants.
I disagree
The same guys that mail it in with a 3TD lead are the ones who mail it in with a 3 TD deficit.
I want guys who play at one speed all the time..and that’s full tilt.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Agree. You don't rest players either.
If they are dressed, they play. Can’t play, don’t dress.
"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
Be interesting
If this could be presented visually for greater impact. Remember those old school diagrams showing ‘players’ by position as aligned on the field, then the names listed according to depth chart – Starter, 2nd string, etc. In this instance then show the PFF grade for the week next to the name for each player that gets rated. Is that a pictogram?
Then for the Preview later in the week you could ‘align’ the opposing units with their YTD rankings, it would have an immediate visual impact of showing where potential mismatches could be – our O against their D and the converse. Its apparent the OL chart above is already formatted as the players are aligned, this is just the next iteration.
I don't make mistakes...just understandable bad choices
I'm coming out of the closet,
I have a mancrush on Tony Romo.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones

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