With Little On Line Cowboys Get Stuck In Chimney, Lose To Eagles 20-7
by KD Drummond on Dec 24, 2011 6:22 PM CST
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Tony Romo's throwing hand isn't broken.
That is the most important thing that can be taken away from today's 20-7 loss to the Philadelphia Eagles, as the Cowboys fell to 8-7 on the season. On the Cowboys first offensive possession, Jason Babin looped into the middle on third down and Romo's throwing motion took his right hand directly into the crown of Babin's helmet; ending the quarterback's day. The X-rays were negative, and Romo would return to the sideline ready to re-enter the contest, but an early victory by the Giants rendered the final score for this contest unimportant.
Of course, just because the hand isn't broken, does not mean that Dallas is out of the woods. Romo's hand was visibly swollen and although it appeared that he could have tried to return, we probably won't know for a few days whether he will enter the live-or-die Week 17 matchup at the Giants able to make all his throws with velocity.
That Week 17 rematch will be for all the 9-7 marbles. The winner will go on to the tournament, the loser will enter the off-season with more questions than answers, and if it's the Cowboys a second-consecutive third-place NFC East finish. An NFC East that will crown an under-10 win champion for the first time since the 1960's. Storylines of an entire season will be written based off the results of one game.
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An entire week of nervous energy, excitement and revenge-tinted thoughts were basically derailed before the game got going. The playoff importance of the Cowboys-Eagles rematch mostly rested on a loss by the New York Giants, although outside possibility of a Wild Card still rested with the fate of the Atlanta Falcons. However, the New York Jets complete offensive ineptitude saw the Eagles eliminated soon after they took an early 7-0 lead on a Michael Vick touchdown pass to Brent Celek.
That drive happened while there was still a whiff of importance to the game, and the Cowboys defense never showed much of an ability to stop the Eagles passing attack. Philly would later drive on the Cowboys, going the length of the field, only to have Jason Avant fumble for a touchback as he stretched the ball for the pylon. Late in the half, the Cowboys punted to the Eagles with less than a minute left; then watched Michael Vick complete three consecutive passes of more than 20 yards to bring them to first and goal. A touchdown pass later, and each Cowboys cornerback had been made to look foolish as Philly took a 14-0 halftime lead.
Even with nothing riding on the game, the Cowboys appeared to want to work out some defensive kinks in the second half to no avail. Included in that was an apparent hamstring injury to ILB Sean Lee, who was on the sidelines before the third quarter came to a close. The one defensive positive from keeping the starters in, DeMarcus Ware collected two sacks to tie Babin for second in the league with 18 (Jared Allen has 18.5). The second was a powerful "rock-bottom" slam of Michael Vick. That drew cheers from the Cowboys Stadium crowd with nothing much to celebrate when they realized Michael Vick was shaken up on the play.
Stephen McGee, the number two QB with Jon Kitna done for the year due to a back injury, showed some ability, but wasn't able to move the Cowboys into the end zone or field goal range for that matter. He showed some escapability, he showed some arm strength on sideline routes, but the few deep throws, as well as some shorter ones, he attempted were normally off target. He also failed to recognize the clock was winding down to the two-minute warning at the end of the first half. Granted, the Cowboys prepared for this game as a potential playoff-berthing one, so McGee's preparation time has undoubtedly been limited. Therefore fans should be reluctant to look at this as a dress rehearsal to be the 2012 primary backup. McGee didn't lose that opportunity, but he didn't do much to convince Jerry Jones that an offseason search is unwarranted.
The Cowboys line didn't do much to protect him, as he was sacked three times and hit at least 15 other times. There is also the possibility that Jason Garrett went to Plan C with his play-calling once the game was no longer going to affect playoff possibilities. For what it's worth, McGee and Dez Bryant seemed to be on the same page with each other, as they connected on six of Bryant's eight targets.
The Cowboys almost suffered their first home shutout loss since September 1991, a span of 165 games. A late punt block by rookie Bruce Carter gave the Cowboys one final possession with 22 seconds left on the clock. A Stephen McGee scramble from the 16 took Dallas down to the four and McGee found Austin at the right front pylon to finally get the Cowboys on the scoreboard. It was a minor triumph in a sea of 'meh' to say the least.
Regardless, it all goes away as the playoffs start next Sunday for Dallas and New York. The game is currently slated for 4:15pm eastern on Fox, but will most likely be flexed into Sunday night positioning, an ominous sign for Dallas who have lost their last six in that time slot.
Merry Christmas, BTB!
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Sooooo, how's everyone feeling after that?
Merry Christmas suckers!
-Jerry Jones
I will awaken my expectations for the Cowboys when Jerry Jones is in the ground.
by Lord Humungus on Dec 24, 2011 6:24 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Sorry guys, I'm cranky
And the egg nog is getting to me.
Merry Christmas!
I will awaken my expectations for the Cowboys when Jerry Jones is in the ground.
by Lord Humungus on Dec 24, 2011 6:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
McGee showed some skill?
At what? Not bobbling the snap? Can’t trust him. If our WRs had been blanketed that’d bd one thing. But McGee spent the whole game dumping it off 5 yards behind the line because he couldn’t see the field. If Romo plays, we win 27-20.
by AikmanGeneration on Dec 24, 2011 6:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
McGee showed me we should've taken McNabb
and then if McNabb performed as badly as McGee, we could have easily cut McNabb after this Eagles game.
McGee Has Not
. . . shown anything since he arrived. Dallas needs to draft a future starter to challenge McGee; Dallas needs to find a new Kitna to compete for the two slot while the future starter is located. McGee is a waste of fffing time.
put in the crowd that doesn't believe in Mcgee but that protection was hot garbage.
the Eagles DL straight whooped Dallas from the start of the game. Romo getting a bruised hand was probably the best thing that could of happen bc that OL/Protection was going to get any QB killed.
now Garrett gets to go see a motivated J.P.Paul, J.Tuck & stacked DL that took Romo out last season. i sure hope Houck, Pete & Garrett can get that protection fixed or there screwed.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Merry Christmas KD & BTB
Cowboys will have to bring their A game next week and hopefully Romo will be good to go otherwise were done
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by Antonio S on Dec 24, 2011 6:28 PM CST via Android app reply actions
We need Tony Romo
the defense isn’t stopping anyone and while Mcgee is ok I don’t think we are winning any shootouts with him. But if Tony is under center I’m still confident we can beat the Giants and that is what matters most right now.
Tony Romo is a top QB in the NFL but there not going to be a legit super bowl contender with the holes on that team
just losing Murray this offense took a huge hit & even a healthly Felix Jones isn’t consistent enough to be a lead back. i’m sure Romo is licking his chops with a freshly signed Sammy Morris & some kid with the last name Washington. throwing the ball might win the game next week but that running game or the defense (-Ware, Lee, Ratliff & Jenkins) can’t be counted on to help at all. we all hate W.Sapp but the saying you can’t win on the road without a defense & a running game late in the season through postseason then your not going far.
Dallas has some serious problems & Romo/Wares talent just isn’t enough to cover up the mess they hve around them. Dallas has a ton of key pieces but until the DL & OL are completely straight the rest doesn’t matter that much. people talk about McGee (i’m not a believer in him myself) but we won’t ever know any QBs potential if there under pressure 99% of the time.
i’m all in with this team even during the down times of this franchise but this things broke & Jerrys paying top dollar. the Eagels exposed some protection problems on the offense & the defense is just a bunch of JAGs (again -Ware,Lee, Ratliff) that can’t get pressure fast enough or a secondary thats not able to cover long enough.
sorry but the Eagles are one team i can’t stand to lose against in any scenerio. right next to the Giants, 49ers, Redskins, Steelers lol.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
I am glad the defense appeared to show some heart
in the second half. The Eagles looked like they wanted to run up the score but couldn’t get anything going, fwiw.
I didn’t see that Lee tweaked his hammy. Any update on that? I suppose not…
What happened to Felix Jones? I saw he was off to a good start, and then was done. Injured? Coaching decision?
A roller-coaster season with more key injuries and twists and turns than I can recall in any Cowboys season now comes down to the season finale. Have to admit it’s kind of exciting!
McGee simply can't throw a spiral to save his life.
he had guys open all over the place and couldn’t pick them out. Though to be fair he had about 1.3 seconds to do his reads before he had to take off.
I hated this game with an uttermost passion. There was no life, no fire, no desire no will no strength at ALL in these lifeless pathetic Cowboys. Even if there had been no chance of playoffs due to this game, I would be ashamed of it. As it is, they pissed away even an outside chance at a wild card. Now they have to go to New York and somehow find a way to protect Tony, rush the passer successfully, and defend a pass or two.
Did I mention how much I hated this game?
id be pissed had i spent money going to that game ....
and it screwed up 3 of my playoff FF teams……….
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
Thinking of all the iggle fans that wasted money travelling to this game thinking the Jets would win put a smile on my face.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
i think if you look at stats its no so much the fans that travel but probably have moved to the area.
i’d bet the majority of the Iggy fans there were locals that have moved or just were wierd. its not that the steelers travel well its just a lot of there fans moved on when the steel business went down the tube.
college kids/grads travel well but rarely does NFL fans. this isn’t saying a very small portion did waste money traveling from Philly for that garbage game but i bet its way less then you think.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Sure, but I don't care how many. And even the locals. It still gives me one thing to smile about.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
i'm sure Jerrys investors that spend the real money let him know how they feel
the only people Jerry really cares about are the media & the line of big investors paying well. just imagine we get to play madden football & run the franchise but Jerry’s so rich he has his personnel live madden game called the Dallas Cowboys.
Jerry knows what the Cowboys are worth when there not winning or when they are winning & losing next week is going to be a bigger deal to Jerry over the fans. Jerry’s one smart dude not completely selling out the naming rights of Cowboys Stadium which gives him less people in his ear or playing his game.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
You are so wrong DC!
Jerry does not give a damn about the media, the line, or big investors. Jerry wants to win more then you do probably. If this game meant anything… the coaches would have sent Romo and Felix back in… and personally I would have done the same thing after the injury. There was no reason to put him at risk any longer. If he had not injured his hand in the first series I would have still played him but after that it was just too risky. Sorry but some of you have to suck it up… most people want to sit him and many others if NY won. So they got their wish.
RexP
by Rex Pfister on Dec 25, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
i disagree if you think Jerry doesn't care about public opinion of the Dallas Cowboys.
i can assure you Jerry wants to win more then any fan could or he wouldn’t be the type of owner he is. i’m not a Jerry basher but in this era of the NFL its a billion $$$ business & its all about investors. let me ask you this… How many Dodge commericals have ya seen Suh on since that Thanksgiving game? lol
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
What I was saying was DC... just to clarify
Jerry doesn’t care what the media says… and he doesn’t. Just as long as they keep saying it. He doesn’t care about the investors because he already knows that hate the Cowboys or love them they are America’s Team and they are going to sell whatever it is you have to sell. PERIOD! (win or lose) He doesn’t care about the line, not sure what you meant but I was thinking the line on the game -3 or +3 … unless you are gambling doesn’t matter to anyone.
RexP
by Rex Pfister on Dec 25, 2011 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
Too bad Jerruh doesn't want to win enough to hire a real GM.
He wants to “play” with the team himself and has been quoted as saying that’s why he bought the team.
That proves that he does not want to win more than any fan.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
JJ wants to win badly. The problem is his ego blinds him into making emotional rather than objective choices. JG is the consumate realist.
If the trend continues and JG controls the draft and player personnel decisions, JJ can have his cake and eat it too by claiming credit as the GM. His ego will always be there. The Dallas Cowboys are a brand that JJ built and the best way to increase the value of that brand is to win. JJ realizes that now and I do believe he has seen the light and realizes he can’t do it alone. We’ll see if his recent change in strategy and approach succeeds.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
i wonder how much they overpay for Felix bc of Jerrys ego.
Felix was Jerrys pet in that draft & i wonder how much his blindness overpays to keep Felix as the #2 RB.
Murray is clearly the better RB & with the cap so tight its going to kill Jerry to let Felix walk.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
You have a point, but supposedly JG makes the decisions over personnel, JJ needs to do better at signing the personnel to reasonable contracts.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
You all might laugh at me for this
but I swear Kellen Moore will be a gift for somebody. I’ve watched that guy for 4 years and he will be somebody’s savior. Wish we could stick him on our bench for a couple years to let him fill out a little.
"whoa, whoa, whoa, you got a stagecoach to catch? huh? Slow the **** down" - Al Swearengen
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!!!!!!
The kid is a winner, a leader, and a pretty good passer that is getting no respect. If he falls to the third I wish we would take him. I know we need a lot of defensive help in this draft but tony isn’t getting any younger and we HAVE NO BACKUP right now.
by Dynamicduo on Dec 25, 2011 8:39 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
If he goes all the way to the 5th we better take him or I will be screaming.
by Dynamicduo on Dec 25, 2011 9:49 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I like him and think he will be good for some team, but I don't want him even as an UDFA.
The Cowboys spent too many years farting around between Troy and Tony. It is getting to the time to draft a real QB of the future. I am not saying replace Romo next year.
I am saying that the next QB we do draft needs to be the real deal as Romo’s future replacement, not a backup or project.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
There's no way we waste a first or second on a QB this yr or next.
I don’t disagree with you, this is a QB driven league. But we have way to many other positions that need upgraded and romo still has at least 3 years.
by Dynamicduo on Dec 25, 2011 11:39 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
with the NFL rule changes it seems pretty easy to find a franchise QB
i dont theres a need to draft a QB until 2013 & then let him compete against Romo the following season.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
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But McShay thinks he’ll be there in the 5 or 6th round.
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I think his stock will rise through senior bowl and combine.
I may be wrong but I think he’ll be taken in 3rd maybe 4th. I hope he’s there in the 5-6th. That would be a steal
by Dynamicduo on Dec 25, 2011 12:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
he's the throwing version of Tebow.
unless Nike has some kind of shoe that lifts ya 4 or 5 inches then that kid will struggle to see the field. i mean its hard enough to just hold defenders off these days. i can’t imagine creating perfect lanes for this kid to see down the field.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Have you watched the saints lately?
Drew Brees is 6’0. I’m not saying he’ll be drew brees but he has potential and the height issue can be dealt with
by Dynamicduo on Dec 25, 2011 2:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i would credit most of Brees success to S.paytons scheme.
the NFL will know how tall Moore really is during the combine & i bet he’s closer to 5’ 10" then 6’0.
Brees wasn’t great in an offensive freindly system in SD & S.Payton doesn’t get enough credit for the offense play designs or gameplans.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Drew brees is one of the top 4 qb's in the league period, end of discussion.
IN A QB DRIVEN LEAGUE!! And I don’t agree with your statement, it’s EASY TO GET YOUR FRANCHISE QB?!?!?! Lmao r u kidding me? There r maybe 8 qb’s in the league everyone else would beg for. Idk how tall Moore is, if he’s 5’10 he’s too small, if he’s 6’0 I hope we draft him in the 4th. He has potential. More than a lot of guys drafted the last few yrs and worst case scenario we waste a 4th on a backup that CAN’T be worse than our backup we have right now.
by Dynamicduo on Dec 26, 2011 11:57 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
+100
I like him in the third or forth if one of our needs haven’t been met yet.. He’s my #3 QB coming out of college this year.
RexP
by Rex Pfister on Dec 25, 2011 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
YOU hated it?
i had romo, bryant and robinson as my fantasy heroes and, wouldn’t ya know, the nyj’s render our game meaningless. GLAD that them sorry jets have almost zero chance of getting to the postseason!
Fully convinced....
KD had two write-ups pre-drawn to post for this game. One for a win, one for a loss. Insert a few particulars… And, voila! Recap city.
Crappy game, but as soon as the Giants closed, I could’ve cared less. Surprised I actually got to watch the whole game, on Christmas Eve. Time to earn some points with the family, and keep the ol’ lady happy.
Merry Christmas, Happy Hannakuh, and have a great whatever the heck else you’re celebrating.
LOL- I’m hoping that’s a compliment to the speed I posted 1,000 words as opposed to saying it was cookie cutter haha
regardless- yeah, I started writing in the third quarter. Wasn’t much question as to the way this one was turning. The “almost shutout” paragraph was a late edit :)
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Red J says, "Trust the Process".
What a load of malarkey.
Who cares
Some people are just never happy
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Uhhh... I care?
The fact that Jason Garrett preaches a “process” and then inexplicably has NO “process” when it comes to actually calling games is more than a little troubling to me.
This is such a copout.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Meh, we all knew this game was meaningless.
You can’t take anything away from this game, as they were keeping there cards tight to there chest. GO Cowboys next week!
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
I really can't be bothered to care about this game.
McGee looked okay when he was able to see daylight. Defense at least looked okay in the second half. Hopefully Romo, Ware, Jenkins, Felix, and Ratliff will be ready to go against the Giants.
Yeah same here
The only issue I had was that McGee takes too long to go through his progressions. Don’t know if he’s inherently limited or just needs game experience but he left a lot of plays on the field.
Don't believe everything you think.
by dunkman on Dec 25, 2011 12:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I can't believe the xray was negative, looked like a for sure fx
with the way it hit the helmet
Felix at 100% still isn't all that great. i would be more concerned if Morris knows the playbook.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
I realize we sat a lotta guys...
But if we’re going to play like that, I’d rather not go to the playoffs. I don’t want to get blown out by Detroit or Atlanta at home. If we’re not ready, then we’re not ready.
I’m not saying I’m giving up. And I obviously want us to win the division and play well in the playoffs. Shoot. Seattle got in the playoffs the same way we would and they pulled off an upset.
But there hasn’t really been any reason to believe they will. We’ve blown games in weird ways and beat ourselves in big games. We can’t even play hard versus our rivals. They come into our house, laughing joking, pummeling our QB, gesturing to the crowd. I’m so tired of watching us passively just get beat down.
Sorry for the rant. This just ruined my Christmas and I’m pretty p!$$ed about it.
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
How?
The game is meaningless and good thing Romo wasn’t seriously hurt. That block punt and Austin td made my holiday. As much as I wanted to win this game after the Giants won I realized theres no point.
Anything can happen. You don’t look good til you look good right? This team can play just watch. Have faith. We get in we will be dangerous, count on it.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
How? It's not that we lost, it's how we played.
No heart. No desire. Even in a meaningless game, we should see something from the team. Otherwise just forfeit and go home.
Look at all the 2nd and 3rd string QBs that came into games this year and the teams did not quit on them. That’s right, I said quit. That’s what the Cowboys did tonight. Quit.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
perfectly said fs65
i was very upset w/ the lackluster effort just no excuse the way those guys played today NONE
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by DarkKnight88 on Dec 24, 2011 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah you are right the quit.. smh
The eagles only scored 20. Get out of here with that nonsense. They went vanilla.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Vanilla, quit. Same thing to me.
Either play hard to win the game or just forfeit and go home. That includes the coaches. If you’re going to play vanilla just to get through the game, then don’t even play at all.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
You are crazy!
I’m going to say something but first what difference did it make? Since, you can’t forfeit in the NFL you actually do have to play the game. So with the win by the Giants and Romo’s injury and Felix being injured going in why risk losing your shot of the playoffs by risking further injury playing hard! That’s just stupid.
RexP
by Rex Pfister on Dec 25, 2011 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
Why not take it a step farther then?
Just punt on every first down and don’t make any tackles on D. Yes, that is an extreme example but according to you, why play with any effort at all?
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
PRACTICE
That is exactly what it was full speed practice just don’t take any risk against a decent team will never hurt.
RexP
LOL. If it was a full speed practice then all the 1st teamers should have been in the game to work together and get the practice together.
Nice try though.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
Well...of course
See the Indianapolis Mannings. Its kinda the way the league is.
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
"Meanwhile, like a bitter wine, Philadelphia’s jealousy fermented in the dark cellars of pride and resentment. With no playoff hopes of their own, Eagles fans turned towards hating the Cowboys." Steve Sabol, NFL films
Don't be too upset or surprised when they miss the playoffs next week.
They’re a mediocre team that still has some big problems. They’re not ready yet and it’s probably better if they miss out so maybe there’s a snowballs chance in hell of some of the stuff that needs to get fixed getting taken care of this offseason. This was an 8-8 team before the season started and nothing has changed.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
If I had access to that information I wouldn't be going around telling people.
I’d hoard it to myself.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I've thought that too
Of course, if you get in the playoffs, anything can happen, so I want that chance. On the other hand, if we get in, we’re so inconsistent it’s naive to think we’ll win more than one game against the good teams. I’m still wanting that win and a playoff appearance, though.
Don't be too surprised if they beat the Giants, either.
Your not going into NO or GB. The Giants are just as mediocre as the Cowboys.
Both teams are not great, are 8-7, and basically, both are in the playoffs. They start next Sun night.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
Even if they do squeak in don't expect them to stick around long.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I give us very little chance next week
Time for this miserable season to end. This team is so inconsistent its sickening.
The offseason can't come quick enough!!!
by Boyzfan94 on Dec 24, 2011 7:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Why not?
Is it Romo, or the team overall. Cause the Giants are not world beaters either at this point.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
this team has a young players, new players & even new coaches so things will be inconsistent.
the OL didn’t have any offseason together & on top of that there still a player or 2 away from being where Garrett/Houck/Romo would like. Costa doesn’t look like a 100% answer to Center but i’d like to see the other kid (K-something) with an offseason.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
This game proves Romo is elite
Without him, the Cowboys have no chance…none whatsoever…with him, we can beat anyone.
In Romo we Trust
No kidding
Sanchez has regressed; he is terrible. Vinny Chase failed his team today, big time.
Sanchez has a decent arm but
He still can’t make his reads. He can basically lock in on one guy. If that guy doesn’t come open, he’s done.
Don't believe everything you think.
by dunkman on Dec 25, 2011 12:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
talk to a Jets fan, and they will tell you
that the OC sucks and has failed with three different QB’s there in NY.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
I said the same thing 6 other times and it didn't happen
8-7, so far. What were you thinking, 15-1, since we didn’t have Romo for that last Eagles game?
Actually, I will admit after the Giants and TB game I was thinking the same.
Hell, why not let it be 5 TDs, since we’re in that riding- unicorns- through- an- enchanted- forest- territory.
I see your 5 and raise it to 6.
Screw it. I’m all in with 8 TDs to break the single game record.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
You're sick in the head
But, Good game, We’ll See who wants it next week
ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th
Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT
Shady is the best RB in the NFL not AP
he is the real deal, that dude scares me to death more than anyone on that team besides Vick with time to throw the ball
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by ChiaCrack on Nov 5, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
LOL. There was an iggles fan in the bar cheering every iggles play and screaming.
There were 2 more iggles fans next to my table laughing at the first guy with us because the first idiot didn’t even know they were already knocked out.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
LOL... Eagles fans...
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
Trying out their best Redskins impression.
Don’t worky so good, does it? lol
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
Sorry I missed the game... on vacation
but Terry Romo beat the Eagles 3 times in 2009 and he has started 2x this year, the only win is McGee in Philly vs mostly backups. I’ll buy into Romo being elite once he succeeds in the playoffs.
I agree Romo gives us the best chance to win but I would like to see McGee play in a game that actually matters when he has had at least 2 consecutive weeks of practice taking 80% of the snaps. If Romo starts this week – sounds like he will – then it won’t happen this year anyway.
If Romo was elite our record probably would be 11-3 right now and the last 2 games on our schedule would be for home-field advantage.
20-0 loss at home? I don’t care who starts – that doesn’t happen down the stretch on a Landry team. This Garrett team is on the bubble – an average team that looks good or possibly great – but you have to win in December and January.
It’s December – we’ve lost 3 of the last 4 games… Romo started all 4 games, 3 of the 4 teams have losing records, one is 8-7.
Last year without Romo we were 2-2 in December (Kitna starting) and 1-0 in January (McGee starting). This year 1-3 December with Romo and January? We’ll see…
Comparison? Brees was 5-2 down the stretch last year and 6-0 this year… Romo is 3-3 this year and was 5-2 in 2009 when he was considered elite. If we lose on Sunday I would guess that most would consider 3-4 down the stretch to be not that great… even a 4-3 finish.
Romo can prove himself in the playoffs, like Staubach, White and Aikman…
look
Remember last year what we were playing for. Remember
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
the NFC East matchup
The Boys don’t match up well vs pass rushing teams that have great secondaries as that neutralizes the passing game.
The Boys should match up better vs the Giants – should be a good game.
Yeah the Jets had their heads miles up their ass and were given break after break
They hung with the Giants for a while.
The jets were pathetic.
They were given chance after chance and played with less heart than we did.
Where are all the mediots slamming Sanchise?
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
There is already
a story out that the Jets are considering moving on without Sanchez. I don’t believe it, but it’s out there.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
if the they can't protect Romo it won't matter who has better players at other positions.
no Murray & a questionable, streaky, undependable Felix Jones, a Sammy Morris fresh off the couch & some kid with the last name Washington. i see a lot of 2 TE sets & max protection or Romos running for his life 4 quarters.
seems like a DL is a good counter to an elite QB bc the Giants are thin in the secondary iirc.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Did the Eagles blitz the entire game
or was it a standard 4 man rush?It looked like they got to McGee every damn time, rushing only 3 to 4 people.
Either way, it makes the OL look really pathetic. For awhile, I was under the assumption that they needed a little more time to gel together, now I’m thinking like everyone else, that it’s not going to be fixed.
Free regressed badly this season. and it just proves another point, how Romo makes this Oline look good at times.
D-Ware= sack master
rated as the # 1 pass rusher in the NFL
by salas88 on Dec 24, 2011 6:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I will agree with you. Romo spreads the ball around
and that makes this offense look better than it is.
At the same time, "Check down" McGee made the OL look worse than it is.
If his first read is not WIDE open, he panics and checks down behind the LOS.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
i think the day Dallas' season ends, they will be switched.
Free will be a good RT. athletically hes not in the same catagory as Tron.
its preseason watch the players individually. igor is garbage!
by yehti on Dec 24, 2011 6:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
+1
Free is a way better run blocker then pass protector but it kinda stinks paying all that $ to a "good " RT. Jerry was stuck in bad position having no answer to Romo’s blindside & basically knowing he was overpaying.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
No he wasn't
Tyson Clabo (RT – Falcons) was a FA. He could’ve signed Clabo to less money than Free received and started Smith at LT. Yes, it would be risky but that’s what he’s paid to do – take risks.
Free isn’t even a RT to me – he’s an OG. But, regardless of where he ends up, he’s another example of a Cowboys player who has been overpaid.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 25, 2011 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
if you knew a little more about "risk" of starting Smith at LT then you might of noticed his footwork sucked.
Smith had major footwork issues early on & there was zero chance of him playing LT unless there was an injury.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Free is soft
Off to RT he goes next year. He is no LT.
The offseason can't come quick enough!!!
by Boyzfan94 on Dec 24, 2011 7:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
atleast Smith moves to LT where he should be but now we have highest paid regressed RT in the NFL.
Free better be one heck of a RT bc dude got paid to play the LT position. theres a reason LTs get paid big bucks or go in the top 5-10 of drafts. that LT coming out of USC this season is a straight stud at pass protection & if Smith has more potential then thats going to be a sight to see.
they have to get the protection straight for this team to go anywhere & on the other side of the ball they need to get better pass rushers on the DL.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
it looked to me like Free was a glaring weak spot...
where was Babin?
check that... everyone on the line looks soft except Costa
Babin looks pretty effective vs Smith
They did blitz and would use stunts that killed us
by somebodyquiet on Dec 26, 2011 1:34 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
i still dont get why Carter wasnt playing more?
does he not know the D playbook?
all i want for Christmas is a Giant beat-down in 8 days!
its preseason watch the players individually. igor is garbage!
by yehti on Dec 24, 2011 6:55 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Perfect football scenario next week
My ideal football scenario next week is KC kicks Denver out of the playoffs and the Cowboys send the Giants packing.
It is exactly the playbook
He obviously has great football instincts and athleticism
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
This game does tell us one thing...
They either need to upgrade at Spencer (good chance that won’t happen) or upgrade along the DL, they also need a real CB to play opposite Jenkins if he’s ever healthy.
i cant imagine having bookend pass rushers.
its preseason watch the players individually. igor is garbage!
by yehti on Dec 24, 2011 6:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
and no cap space
its preseason watch the players individually. igor is garbage!
by yehti on Dec 24, 2011 7:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Bowen Was Cheap
. . . we screwed the pooch letting that gem get away. He is a play maker. Unlike Mr. Over Drafted after we moved up spending way too much by way of draft picks Spencer
NT, DE and OLB
have to be top priority in the draft and FA.
The offseason can't come quick enough!!!
Agree, except for OLB
Need a CB because T New isn’t returning and possibly a S if Elam doesn’t.
I don't make mistakes...just understandable bad choices
What are bowen’s stats that makes everyone clamor for him? I haven’t seen anything
by somebodyquiet on Dec 26, 2011 1:35 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'd rather draft somebody younger and better personally.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Easier said than done...
Not too many DLmen in the past couple drafts are better than those two. or like a Cullen Jenkins.
How EXACTLY does this game indicate that Spencer
isn’t any good? Tell you what, write down, IN ORDER, the top 10 defensive players on the team. But before you do, look at the stats. Also, remember the # of key forced fumbles Spencer had on Grossman and Freeman. Think about who has the greatest # of pressures besides Ware. Think about his ability to stay on the field for 16 games.
Here’s my list:
Ware
Lee
Ratliff
Sensabaugh
Spencer
To me, he’s the 5th best player on the D. I don’t think we should break the bank to re-sgign him but at the same time, I don’t think he should suffer all the ridicule and misguided frustration of fans who want to compare him to the best OLB in the league just because he plays on the other side of field.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 24, 2011 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
put jenkins in between rat and sensei and id agree
its preseason watch the players individually. igor is garbage!
by yehti on Dec 24, 2011 8:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Jenkins isn't very good
We all give him a “pass” because we read posts about his toughness while playing w/ a bum shoulder and bad hamstring. Jenkins went to the pro-bowl 2 years ago (deservedly so). He isn’t in the top half of CBs in the league now.
I really don’t get what anyone else sees in his play.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 24, 2011 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
Jenkins being in the top half of the league was not your question.
He is in the top 5 of OUR defense.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
No, he's not
IMO. He’s not better than Spencer, Sensabaugh and certainly not better than Lee, Ware or Rat
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 24, 2011 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
Okay, that makes him top 6.
Sorry that I was off by 1.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
Actually, I got Hatcher before Jenkins
Hatcher is better than Jenkins. He is.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 25, 2011 2:41 AM CST up reply actions
I think he's our best corner when healthy
Newman is better at anticipating the play, Scandrick is a bit faster and is potentially a Pro Bowl corner. I don’t think CB is a problem, coaching and scheme is.
I would agree
but he’s never healthy. Not sure if its his style of play or lack of size or what. He’s always hurt.
Saying he’s the best CB when he’s healthy is like saying your car will go faster when you install a bigger engine. I’m sure your car will be, but for now,it’s not.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 25, 2011 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
Oh I'm with you
Spencer gets over-criticized around these parts. I still think you can do better than him, and I don’t want to hand over a big contract to him in free agency.
Spencer Is Making
a few more plays finally, but, he misses way too much; he lets people run by him as he makes a futile effort to disrupt the backfield.
remember he also plays opposite of the best OLB in the NFL
if your happy with average production from a dude thats suspose beat 1 on 1 matchups then more power to you. Spencer’s stats are padded bc playing opposite of Ware & if thats all he’s got then let someone else overpay for him.
Jerrys no dummy & i doubt Spencer or Felix well be back when they become FA’s.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Just because he is top 6 on our team doesn’t mean he’s a good player. We need someone to generate pressure
by somebodyquiet on Dec 26, 2011 1:37 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
The Defense is the achilles heel of this team
The secondary is terrible in ANY coverage. We don’t do good enough to stop the run. NO pass rush. D Ware has been hurt and no one else is gettting there. The LB’s except for Lee are usually out of position.
We get gashed continually and the can’t cover the long ball.
So how are we going to beat the Giants playing D like this?
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
Inducted in Cowboys Ring of Honor 2011 FINALLY!!!!!!!
8-8 says... we dont .. ! (
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
that's scheme and coaching - our talent matches up to anyone
Cromartie and Revis are the best tandem in the league and they are probably out of the playoffs
the Giants have a great DL & horrible secondary. the Jets have a great secondary but mediocre DL.
it just goes to show no matter how good the secondary is if the DL can’t get pressure then its broke. we need DL/OLBs that gets after the QB
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
quick question for everyone.
lets say the Browns cause they have no WR. if Cleveland offered you a 1st and a 4th for Dez or Miles would you take it?
i know it wont happen just curious.
its preseason watch the players individually. igor is garbage!
by yehti on Dec 24, 2011 6:59 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I'd probably say no.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
In fact, I'd definitely say no.
If they would just use the picks we already have smartly then we could come out fine.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
if you did...you'd be the stupidest GM in the league.
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
Inducted in Cowboys Ring of Honor 2011 FINALLY!!!!!!!
im only asking cause of maybe a mini Hershal type trade.
its preseason watch the players individually. igor is garbage!
by yehti on Dec 24, 2011 7:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
well...thats when this team only had ONE good player...and Jimmy knew what he could do to get some draft picks.
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
Inducted in Cowboys Ring of Honor 2011 FINALLY!!!!!!!
agreed just curious.
id be entrigued though.
its preseason watch the players individually. igor is garbage!
by yehti on Dec 24, 2011 7:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
intrigued*
its preseason watch the players individually. igor is garbage!
by yehti on Dec 24, 2011 7:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
A 1st and a 4th is nothing close to what Herschel brought back.
Besides, it’s not like we need a haul like that anyway. We just need to overhaul the secondary, maybe get a DL or two, and get an interior OL or two.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
i know i said mini hershal trade. it was just a question i was thinking about is all.
its preseason watch the players individually. igor is garbage!
by yehti on Dec 24, 2011 7:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
the Browns have a decent WR with the name Little but he's going to be a big time playmaker
i would take 1st & 4th for Austin if you can assure me Dez will be in shape & know the offense next season. i’d also want Robinson signed bc that guys been $ for Romo. he was a huge pick up & to bad Jerry cant sign until FA.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
OMG>....check out the LOUD suit Michael Irvin has on NFL network..lmao
ORANGE????
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
Inducted in Cowboys Ring of Honor 2011 FINALLY!!!!!!!
its bright red on my TV
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
cowboys-giants game has been flexed to sunday night.
as per the mothership.
Probably embarrassment.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Well, for some anyway.
I never thought this team was anything better than 8-8. The offense did better than I thought, but the defense didn’t.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Um, not really
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
by TXHC on Dec 24, 2011 7:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
not a good sign.. we are 0-3 in sunday night games this season .....
D-Ware= sack master
rated as the # 1 pass rusher in the NFL
by salas88 on Dec 24, 2011 7:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
ugh very true
its preseason watch the players individually. igor is garbage!
by yehti on Dec 24, 2011 7:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
At least we can't lose any more games in December
Finishing 1-3 this year. I’m sick of this team fading at the end.
You mean like just 2 seasons ago when we finished 3-2 and won a playoff game?
SMH. Stop buying the BSPN hate and spreading their BS for them.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
In fact, we've lost the last 6 sunday night games we've played...
And I just can’t see us getting it done. It goes against everything thing I’ve observed about NFL football in this setting:
—we’re not playing good consistent football
—Romo’s injury and the conditions gametime in NY (cold and prob windy)
—Our o-line gets overwhelmed by good D-line fronts in pass-protection (Doug turnstile Free and Phil Bullrushed Costa
—Giants are emboldened
—Our secondary
—Our lack of pass-rush outside of D-ware
—Our ILBs outside of Lee
—Garrett’s playcalling and game management
Even if we play a good game, I just sense another “spectacular” way to lose.
On the other hand, if we lose, as long as we bust Jacobs in the mouth and he runs 15 times for 10 yards and gets knocked out of the game, I’ll cherish something from the game. lol.
Nothing like focusing on
stopping the Giants backup running back as a game plan…
That outta work out well.
Oh no, we are not ready for PrimeTime.
That’s the kiss of death right there, Prime Time.
I rather french kiss a blarney stone.
locals pee on the Blarney Stone for a good laugh at the expense of the tourists who line up to kiss it
wow how cold will it be at 9 PM ?!
Not good for the hand.
Altho, Romo gets one extra day since this game was on Sat.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, the real question is, is it a good beer? Realist Larry, 2011
by Realist Larry on Dec 24, 2011 7:22 PM CST up reply actions
I hate sunday night football
Can’t drink much, and have too much to do to get ready for work. Such bs.
by Mr._Mulligan on Dec 24, 2011 7:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The team's achilles heels
We need:
1. An upgrade over Tnew.
2. An upgrade over Elam.
3. Carter to get more playing time.
4. An upgrade over Costa.
5. Switch Free to RT.
6. Upgrade over Ogletree; let Harris do returns
Hopefully
Carter could help here.
But Elam (and Ball and Walker) worry me much more than Hatcher, Ratliff, Spears, Lissemore, and Brent.
Hopefully, this Manna Silva guy is good or maybe Danny McCray
by florida dodger on Dec 24, 2011 7:17 PM CST up reply actions
People really need to stop saying this.
It wasn’t true the last 3 seasons and it’s not true now. We need better safeties and now Newman is officially done too.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I highly doubt you can find a much better safety than Sensabaugh
Elam can be upgraded over, but Sensabaugh’s a hell of a lot better than you’re giving him credit for. And yes, the passrush blows, Spencer’s okay, not a great pass rusher but a solid player and the DL can’t really do much outside of Ratliff.
I'm not saying it's perfect.
But the secondary is a WAY bigger problem than the front 7.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
If by secondary you mean "Newman" then yes, I totally agree.
Sensabaugh’s okay, Jenkins is kinda “meh,” Elam isn’t terrible but when a passer has time to find whoever Newman’s covering they’ll be boned. Newman’s the biggest liability on the team, I’m totally with you there.
No, I mean Newman and the safeties.
Those guys are constantly getting burned. And the guys behind them (Ball, Scandrick, Church) are even worse. Our secondary play is unacceptable.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I think Scandrick's a perfectly fine 3rd CB
Given the injury prone nature of cornerbacks and the amount of QBs throwing up 3500+ yards each season a third corner is a pretty important position on the team. I wouldn’t say Elam and Sensabaugh get “burned” frequently. Most times safeties have to “help,” the with the CB play we’ve seen the corners are already burned eight yards deep and the safeties have to cover receivers themselves.
It's getting to the point where the 3rd corner is a starter ability priority.
And why is the center of the field 8-13 yards past the LOS such a wide open gaping hole in our defense?
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
That's part of it, sure.
But the safeties don’t get a pass. I constantly have to look at the backs of 26 and 43.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Justify it however you want but I know what my eyes tell me.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
That's a pretty bad way to evaluate talent
Your eyes tend overblow the bad plays when someone gets burned and underplay the plays where the players do their job. Now Newman gets burned in just about every statistical category, but Sensabaugh seems to do okay and Elam is below average but hardly as bad as Alan Ball was.
by Omar Little on Dec 25, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
To your point
a pass rush negates the need for safeties to do much prolonged coverage. If they read a play correctly a good safety should be in position for the right amount of time… if that time ticks on a few beats due to an extended pocket then safety play will break down.
That said, I’d love to have a ball hawking Roy Williams type circa 2003 back there next to sensabaugh.
The addition of just one playmaker in the secondary or along the line will improve the overall defense a ton.
I only show up to mock other posters, jeer at the writing here, and make strange complaints about internet culture.
My eyes see the game pretty well.
Much better than the majority of people around here to be sure. So I’m fine with my assessment of this team.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
+1,000
they have to fix the pass rush. the game is won & lost in the trenches unless your a bottom feeder in the NFL.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Holland has done well...but it's time for Kosier to go...
We need some power and consistency. Garrett overplayed his overhaul of the O-line. If Gurode stayed and someone lit a fire under Doug Free, then the line wouldve done better. I also believe Kowalski will beat out Costa next year. Flip Tyron and Doug…and if Doug regresses further, cut or trade him and cut your losses while bringing a good free agent.
As to overplay idea,
maybe but it needed to happen. You gotta have pain to rebuild. Keeping Gurode would have been a progress stopper. And he was on the downhill. For sure. Plus I was sick of his stupid inability to snap the ball. I think Redball’s courage to walk away from Gurode was the single most important decision made this off season. Sure, maybe a bit was lost in the short run, but the gains over the longer term will be huge. Now Dallas needs to upgrade the interior with a bit more stength; pair something to Tyron as he makes the transition to the left side.
so is this the last season for captain checkdown in dallas?????
D-Ware= sack master
rated as the # 1 pass rusher in the NFL
by salas88 on Dec 24, 2011 7:13 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Captain Checkdown = McGee?
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
correct
D-Ware= sack master
rated as the # 1 pass rusher in the NFL
by salas88 on Dec 24, 2011 7:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Hopefully.
He sucks.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
id like to see what he could do with a full week of prep with the 1st
but im leaning towards your comment
its preseason watch the players individually. igor is garbage!
by yehti on Dec 24, 2011 7:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
We've seen it already.
Wasn’t much better.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
i didnt see the game last year.
its preseason watch the players individually. igor is garbage!
by yehti on Dec 24, 2011 7:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You didn't miss anything.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I mean he played like a rookie, how. long has he been a cowboy now ? 3 years right?
D-Ware= sack master
rated as the # 1 pass rusher in the NFL
by salas88 on Dec 24, 2011 7:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He's had enough time to at least show something by now.
And he hasn’t done it. It’s probably time to move on.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Yup,
Did u see him getting his Wideouts killed? And throwing into triple coverage? After all his is a professional and should be ready for his time. Specially now that Kitna is on IR
D-Ware= sack master
rated as the # 1 pass rusher in the NFL
by salas88 on Dec 24, 2011 7:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not to mention over and underthrowing guys, taking too long to make reads, etc...
The guy just isn’t any good.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
He came from an option type offense in college.
And it is painfully obvious.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
Yeah, Three years.
Look at Romo at 3 years and look at Mcgee.
Ain’t pretty.
Officially, we can all say this isn't an Aaron Rodgers waiting behind Brett Favre moment
There won’t be any Discount Double Check commercial in McGee’s future.
Yup i guess its safe to say that now...
D-Ware= sack master
rated as the # 1 pass rusher in the NFL
by salas88 on Dec 24, 2011 7:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
For sure,
and to be fair, the verdict has been in for a while now on McGee. Stupid Jerry pet
Maybe he'll be the guy banging on the window.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
LoL.
That guy made the commercial. Typical cheesehead.
"Hey Rahgizz"
Funny commercial. :-)
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
how about Foles or whatever from Arizona? dude has a cannon for an arm.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Or Cousins from Mich State
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
2 Things...
One…crap, it’s a great Christmas…Romo’s hand isn’t broken…we didn’t need to win this game so Romo didn’t have to play and aggravate the injury any more just to make next week relevant…he’s got over a week to let the hand’s swelling go down…I consider this to be a big Christmas present…just think what we all would be thinking if the result was a “break”…
Two…Romo played with a couple of broken ribs and punctured lung…does anyone seriously think he won’t play next week and play well?
Note: How does this team look without Romo?
1 Romo will play next week.
2 this team looked dead without Romo. The offense had some great field position in the second quarter and could not capitalized.
In defense we got Ware,Rat,Lee,Jenkins and everyone else….
D-Ware= sack master
rated as the # 1 pass rusher in the NFL
by salas88 on Dec 24, 2011 7:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
A hand injury causes a mechanics problem
from everything I’ve read, rib injuries are more about “how much pain can you take”, and we know Romo can take a lot.
Think about Romo’s career.
2006 – Romo hurts his thumb, spends some time throwing the ball backwards in the detroit game. Didn’t play poorly
2007 – I believe Romo hurt his thumb at the start of the Eagles game. He was off all day. In a 10-6 loss, he missed a wide open TO down field once or twice. Not a good day.
2008 – missses 3 games with broken pinkie.
Lets not forget Favre’s struggles with a hand injury late in his career. And nobody would ever question his toughness.
I think Romo is one tough SOB. But if his hand is still hurting, us fans will know it. His own history refutes your statement.
I'm not mad
Philly only scored 20 points on Dallas’ defense, who stepped up quite a bit in the second half (though they still looked lost in the first half, which is bothersome).
Dallas’ offensive gameplan changed DRAMATICALLY with McGee in. I’m not particularly surprised it struggled so badly. He’s not a great quarterback, nor does it seem he will ever be. Despite that, McGee played decent and showed mobility. He also didn’t cause a turnover.
Dallas needs to draft another quarterback or acquire a decent veteran in free agency.
Free needs to go back to right tackle. He seems to seriously lack the hands and strength to be a left tackle.
Tyron is playing lights out. I’m so impressed with him.
Not a good game by any stretch of the mind, but if the defense keeps New York to 20 points and Romo comes back healthy, we’re gong to win.
Tron started kinda slow it seemed but settled down nicely.
its hard to block though when your own teamates are pancaking you cough Kosier cough
its preseason watch the players individually. igor is garbage!
by yehti on Dec 24, 2011 7:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That's the thing
In some games, they are doing the job. They rush block well. And Romo has enough time to dance around in the back for a decent pass play. Then there’s these type games, when they look like a sieve. I don’t know if it’s a matter of being undersized or being outplayed. Just after a game, and I think they will be fine and then they go out of their way to prove me wrong.
Damn, I need to go out and by cheap things I can break.
Sounds like you're ahead of the curve.....
Funny though.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
When Garrett did the overhaul, many of us knew this would happen...
considerable change was needed, but when JJ and JG chose no-power Costa over Gurode (to save money), I knew it would come back to haunt us against the tougher front lines like the Eagles and Giants.
Tron will be fine. Free has regressed so considerably that he needs to be switched to RT…and perhaps Sparano comes over the toughen up some of these guys on the O-line and a full year under Woicik may help. Kosier needs to be upgraded.
Gurode sucked.
I really don’t see Costa as a downgrade from him. Yes, he didn’t get bull rushed, but he couldn’t pick up a stunt to save his, or Romo’s life. It was a matter of pick your poison, pay large $ to the left hand who was old and faulty. Or much smaller $ to the right hand who was young and was just a faulty in a different way, but who might learn, grow and be better by the end of the year. And remember our cap situation. We had to redo 3 deals to get under it.
BS
He would have been better then Costa. No doubt at all.
by burmafrd1944 on Dec 25, 2011 7:03 AM CST up reply actions
Nope
Numbers tell the story.
Gurode is one of the worst offensive linemen in the NFL today. He grades out much, much, much worse than Costa.
Gurode had to go. Too expensive. Got in the way of Garrett’s calculus for bringing along the younger players and getting finances in order for true meaningful upgrades.
I think Rena’s point is spot on.
I only show up to mock other posters, jeer at the writing here, and make strange complaints about internet culture.
Yeah my take exactly
McGee can probably develop into a decent back up. No turnovers or picks despite having Philly breathing down his neck the whole time.
that's because he had 1.5 seconds to get rid of the ball
and because he didn’t get any snaps… remember how well Kitna played after Romo went down last year?
think mara will say that he's 'scared' of the cowboys this week?
i think not… the giants have to be licking their chops…
Not to be that dude
but this was the worst possible outcome for the Cowboys. Romo hurt, get slaughtered again by the Eagles, and the Giants win and have to be feeling great right now.
I hope our Boys come through next week.
Eagles beat a 3rd string qb
Congrats
by scandrick32 on Dec 24, 2011 7:41 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Eagles swept us this year.
Are you honestly telling me that if things weren’t reversed you wouldn’t be trolling some Iggle fans? I know I would; just part of what makes it a great rivalry.
True, but we lost worst last year when we won the Preseason Lombardi.
We’re not really in the position to talk smack about being Paper Tigers….
I don't think anyone ever crowned the Cowboys the preseason champs...
They added no one that offseason and got unceremoniously tossed from the playoffs. They got hype because they probably had the best team on paper that was hosting the Super Bowl in a while.
Our starting QB was knocked out for the season.
That’s not losing worse.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
That's great
But there done .. Dallas is still alive do f##k them
by scandrick32 on Dec 24, 2011 7:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Umm. If things were reversed, we would be the division champs right now.
Just saying.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
After I had a chance to calm down
I realized that we should be happy we were in every game except for the two blowouts to the EAGLES. And damn right, we looked as inept as the last time we played them, but this time we played with our 3rd string QB against their “DREAM TEAM”.
It’s like we got the most talented kids from the Special Olympics we could find, padded them up, and cheered them on…Wait, this doesn’t cheer me up in the least.
As far as the QB situation goes...
I think NEXT year is the year to look for an heir to Romo. This year they’ll need to figure out what to do at OLB, CB, and DL. After that probably beefing up the interior OL is their next biggest need along with finding another RB given the fragile nature of RBs in general and the particularly fragile nature of Felix and DeMarco’s inherent injury concerns given running style. Find the heir next year.
Can we official christen T-new, Terrance "Oldman" now?
I think he’s earned it
Tburn
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
This is what we lacked
A passing game, a running game, a pass rush, a pass defense. Other than that it was a great game for us.
We have the goal of winning Super Bowls. If you don't have that, find the door.
Jason Garrett
Pass rush and pass defense are kind of the same thing?
Not even kind of.
We have the goal of winning Super Bowls. If you don't have that, find the door.
Jason Garrett
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A good pass rush is a pretty big part of a pass defense. Typically if you’re all over a passer he doesn’t perform very well. Lastly, if you’re allowing 200 yard or so a game passing who cares about the pass rush?
You know what I meant.
Go correct someone else.
We have the goal of winning Super Bowls. If you don't have that, find the door.
Jason Garrett
Omar give it up already .. Ughhhhh
by scandrick32 on Dec 24, 2011 7:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Next week will be a huge game for the Cowboys but not just for them but to Tony Romo as well.
It will be a huge game a signature game for Romo. He either destroys the Giants defense and Eli manning in front of National TV, in a game Label as a BiG GAME. Or under performs and the label of a "Choker " sticks around with the media. So we need ya back Mr Romo.
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rated as the # 1 pass rusher in the NFL
by salas88 on Dec 24, 2011 7:47 PM CST via mobile reply actions
The name choker will still stick around, even if he destroys the Giants.
If he doesn’t it will just be 1 more reason for them to bring it up repeatedly.
It's all good, as long as Romo isn't down but
if he is…it won’t be pretty. Where’s everyone who was screaming to play all the starters no matter what? I seem to recall somebody even being called a coward at the thought of resting starters for a meaningless eagles game….
"whoa, whoa, whoa, you got a stagecoach to catch? huh? Slow the **** down" - Al Swearengen
And if I recall correctly, I think the Jets were still in it when the Game kicked off.
So, no way to have known if the G-men won if or not.
Agreed, he had to start
since the outcome of the gnats game was unknown. I’m talking about the folks who suggested it didn’t matter what the outcome was they are football players and they should play no matter what.
"whoa, whoa, whoa, you got a stagecoach to catch? huh? Slow the **** down" - Al Swearengen
no one is going to read this, but i couldnt let this go
“that was just a freak injury which is unfortunately commonplace in the nfl.”
if you happen to read this, im still shaking my head. lol freak accidents happen all the time. so frustrating right.
They are as random as turn overs.
Just ask Fan in Thick and Thin.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
thats my point.. he said "which is unfortunately commonplace..."
freak accidents arent commonplace.. if they were then they wouldnt be called freak accidents.
it actually became meaningless game after Romo went down, at least in my eyes.
D-Ware= sack master
rated as the # 1 pass rusher in the NFL
by salas88 on Dec 24, 2011 7:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The Giants-Jets game was only 20-14 with a lot of time left in the game, and the Jets had the ball when Romo got hurt.
So yeah, all the starters should have been playing our game for the division at that time.
And I am right here.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
I know people were "expecting" a win, but this team isn't as good as Philly
Romo or no Romo. It just isn’t.
But the question is, are they better than the Giants?
We’ll find out next week in the NFC East Championship game.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
I think we definately would have had a chance if this was a make or break game and Romo didn't go down.
Then again I’ve said that before and been completely wrong.
At the end of they day
we are exactly where we started the day. Playoffs next week people, time to step it up a notch!
by thesharpestnick on Dec 24, 2011 7:53 PM CST reply actions
not exactly.
Romo’s throwing hand for one. You’re coming off of a loss to a divisional rival, meaningless game or not. The defense is average at best and your best D player is not 100%
Newman is a liability in coverage no matter who he covers. The long ball is a serious concern going into this game. Eli and his WR’s showed what they could do to us a few weeks ago.
When don’t have the capability of shutting down their run or putting a lot of pressure on Eli. If the last time we played them is any indication…..and this time its in THEIR house….
And this time…Romo’s throwing hand will be suspect.
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
Inducted in Cowboys Ring of Honor 2011 FINALLY!!!!!!!
Chia might need to do "QB" on his next Draft Fanpost.
The situation is grim at best it seems.
How would you describe the QB situation of 80% of the rest of the NFL?
Romo’s a top five QB. How is that grim?
I would say, that you have to plan for the future.
Peyton Manning is a Top 10 QB of all time, how do you think the Colts feel right now? Should they not take Luck and trade the #1 pick (if they get it) for other picks/players?
Well that's waaaaaaaaay different
Manning is facing a career threatening injury and the team just completely collapsed around him. What if the same thing happened to Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Eli Manning, Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford, Ben Roethlisberger, or any other good QB?
So you want to pin all of our teams hopes and dreams on Tony Romo being elite (which he most assuredly is) for another five to six years?
All I’m saying is that it’s pretty obvious McGee ain’t a long term viable prospect to one day take over the reigns. So, what are we going to do, will Jerry make a big FA score down the road in a couple of years? Maybe, maybe not. But the QB class coming out these next couple of years have some interesting prospects (Kellen Moore for example) who we could maybe wheel and deal in the late rounds for.
I think that's what most teams that want to win a Super Bowl have to do.
The 49ers and the Ravens are probably the only team with a legit shot at winning a Super Bowl with a QB that will never sniff the pro-bowl.
Top 10
He’s not the problem, but if RG3 is available in the 1st round I’d take him.
I will awaken my expectations for the Cowboys when Jerry Jones is in the ground.
by Lord Humungus on Dec 24, 2011 8:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I will be doing it at some point
we need to draft a young prospect that we can groom into a potential future starter
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
Behind Romo, sure.
Thankfully we have Romo though.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
If it was grim we would have drafted Gabbert not Smith
The Cowboys are confident in McGee’s abilities… they aren’t drafting a QB or signing one.
what was Spencer doing today
I really cant stand #93
Sensabaugh was awful too, glad we award mediocrity with extensions
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:05 PM CST reply actions
LOL
yeah I didnt watch the game but I saw the highlight where he couldnt tackle Vick, that was pathetic bro
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
dude is hot garbage
today is another one of his performances that should tell us not to resign him
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
Ive been calling him Oldman for a few weeks and his favorite actor is Gary Oldman, great character actor
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:08 PM CST up reply actions
Do you mean Jean-Baptist Emmanuel Zorg?
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by Lord Humungus on Dec 24, 2011 8:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Zorg! lol my friend cut his hair like that once
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
+ 1000
Sick of that guy. Almost fast enough, almost quick enough, he’s an arena league all pro.
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by Lord Humungus on Dec 24, 2011 8:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
yup he should be gone my dude
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
My problem with that is this...
He’s not a below average player. He’s a perfectly fine starter, and I’m not so sure how easy it’ll be to do better. I think Upshaw will be long gone and I think Irvin might experience the same problems Spencer did without the success against the run game.
I am done with Spencer
I want him gone
as soon as this season ends I got a fan post waiting, Campaign To Get Rid Of Spencer
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
they should lowball the hell out of him
he better not even try to comman bowen or canty money. all those penalties, missed tackles, lack of pass rushing from him negates his above average run defense
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 24, 2011 10:45 PM CST up reply actions
Ehhh
Not so sure they can do better, unless you’re convinced that Butler will be better with more PT>
you draft a OLB
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
If there's one available I'm all for it.
Upshaw’s my guy but I think he’ll be gone by the end of the mid first.
we might be picking like 18
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
Spencer tied for the team lead with 6 tackles
Between ’ Nothing’ and ‘hot garbage’ perhaps its time to reassess the standard that’s being set. He missed a tackle on Vick – so do a lot of other Defenders. The play immediately following, he had a Tackle for a loss, but somehow that doesn’t get mentioned. Bias Alert.
Let’s get rid of him, because it’s the highest priority towards fixing this D,
I don't make mistakes...just understandable bad choices
almost there Spencer
is what he is. Enough is enough, If we can resign him reasonably cheaply then OK otherwise sayonara.
But you spencer lovers need to think about this:
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IN HIS CONTRACT YEAR HE CAME UP SMALL
by burmafrd1944 on Dec 25, 2011 7:07 AM CST up reply actions
3rd on the team in tackles
You can think whatever you want, but the facts relating to the discussion aren’t optional.
Spencer lover, sure – whatever you need to justify your argument. Perhaps I just want a better D and believe DAL will get there quicker by addressing the higher priorities.
I don't make mistakes...just understandable bad choices
I would put it this way
The guy opposite Ware has to do a great job on this defense.
Spencer is not that guy, unfortunately, for Dallas.
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Dec 25, 2011 7:51 AM CST up reply actions
whoopee do
where are the sacks and consistent pressure we NEED from the OLB opposing Ware?
Ellis at the end of his career could get more sacks then Spencer here in his prime.
whine and cry all you want but that is the bottom line
by burmafrd1944 on Dec 25, 2011 8:14 AM CST up reply actions
The contract year thing's been proven a myth
It’s a mix between confusing correlation/causation and confirmation bias.
by Omar Little on Dec 25, 2011 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
Really not feeling good about next week...
And even if he puts up 30-35 400 yards 5 TDs no INTs, Romo will be blamed for a loss.
I will awaken my expectations for the Cowboys when Jerry Jones is in the ground.
by Lord Humungus on Dec 24, 2011 8:08 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Yeah... I remember that.
I don’t buy into the “choker” talk, but his “luck” is just awful… Whatever that is.
I will awaken my expectations for the Cowboys when Jerry Jones is in the ground.
by Lord Humungus on Dec 24, 2011 8:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's not luck...it's the sh*tty team around him...
Give Romo a slightly above average running game and a competent O Line…see what he can do…
With Demarco...perhaps. But it would be better to have consistently healthy running game.
But in truth, we’ve already seen how much more dominant Romo is with a good running game. Interesting comment Kurt Warner said about Romo when comparing him to Matt Ryan…he trusts Romo more to shoulder the burdens of the entire offense…while he believes Ryan needs a running game to be effective…
Romo makes a strong case for league MVP
without him, man things don’t click because we dont have NFL starter caliber backup
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
Eeeesch
I dunno about league MVP, I read in the Star last week that he’s having one of the ten or twenty best passing campaigns ever. Though, I think that may be inflated by the current league conditions considering that two QBs are having better seasons than he is.
I am not saying he will win
but he should be in the top 5 of the voting
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
Romo is to the Boys what Dirk is to the Mavs.
Without those two players; those two teams do not in anyway resemble themselves.
I pray Romo is good next week
today showed his worth, I pray he can throw the ball accurately and strong next week
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:08 PM CST reply actions
lol, I was so upset when I found out about the injury and saw his football sized throwing hand
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
its gonna swell up worse tonight
might need to drain it
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:12 PM CST up reply actions
idk but that sounds about right
its tough because a pain killer injection just does no good because he needs to feel in that hand to throw
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sure there's plenty of ice on it to reduce the swelling.
Not a good feeling to have your hand go numb…ouch sucks to be him tonight.
tough sob
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
Can't surgically drain the hand ,it's all soft tissue swelling.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
I pray he's good to go for different reasons
Because if he doesn’t play and the Cowboys lose, Jerry will blame bad luck for this team being mediocre.
I won’t rejoice the day that old gargoyle dies, but the fan in me will see hope.
I will awaken my expectations for the Cowboys when Jerry Jones is in the ground.
by Lord Humungus on Dec 24, 2011 8:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
lol
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
I almost don't really want to blame Rob Ryan that much.
Could ANY defensive coordinator field a decent defense with the cast of misfits (other than D-Ware and Lee) we have assembled out there?
I am not mad at Rob I love Rob
plus they did a much better job on shady and held them to 20 points
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
sarcasm or serious?
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
Nope
What struck me is how little talent the defense has now. Newman, Ware and Ratliff are all on the wrong side of 27. Lee’s on the only good young player. They are slow and tired. The need a massive infusion of talent on the defensive line and cornerback in next year’s draft.
its sad
Jenkins Lee Hatcher Rat Ware are legit but thats about it as starters
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
Rat needs to be moved into a three tech DT if he wants to be a factor as he ages.
Of course that would mean going back to a 4-3 which ain’t gonna happen.
I'd say Sensabaugh is pretty good too
I mean name ten better free safeties. Sensabaugh can be frustrating at time but he’s dealing with CBs that get burned after the first move so he’s basically in one on one coverage with deep threats.
I could name ten easily
he looked awful today, he should have picked that Cooper ball off, a good safety does that there
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
I know pro-bowl voting isn't much but most of the stats I've seen he seems to definitely be an above average free safety
He’s no Reed or Polamalu but who is?
Oh yeah, I'm not saying he's something special or anything
But definitely a competent free safety. Which is fine if the rest of the defense was okay too. If Gerald Sensabaugh is the worst player on the defense I’d say you have a pretty damn good D.
i agree
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
Oh yeah
I mean obviously you can do better but upgrading over Sensabaugh is no higher than tenth on the team’s to-do list.
Like it or not he's ours with that contract extension.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
I just don't understand why Carter isn't getting some more playing time.
Even with the limited knowledge, he has to be better than Bradie or Brookings. Hell, Lee got significantly more playing time at this point last year and look what he’s doing so far.
I am tired of that too
plug the kid in please, I heard he blocked a punt
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
wow that bad, man I am glad i didnt see this game
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
Missed the 4th quarter.
Thank God.
I will awaken my expectations for the Cowboys when Jerry Jones is in the ground.
by Lord Humungus on Dec 24, 2011 8:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
And Holley got the ball.
Tarheel Paul?
Ugh. Go Duke!
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Chia you still on the Carter train?
I am, last I heard BED was whining about him…but every time I’ve seen him in on defense he looks pretty good. Always near the ball, obviously he’s a physical freak too.
I haven't jumped off the train nor will I
he looks fast and instinctive out there, cant wait to see him full time
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah his instincts on special teams are making me real hopeful
Just imagine the kind of plays he can make on defense
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
I know I am excited
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
I might put a fanpost up later, but I think with our current young players + Ware we'd be much better served by transitioning to a 4-3 defense.
Too bad dreams can’t come true.
In retrospect going to the 3-4
Might have been the worst strategic mistake this team has made over the last several decades. It doesn’t generate a pass rush, it can’t stop the run, even with the best pass rusher in the league. It’s the worst of both worlds.
This particular 34 defense surely leaves me wanting more.
But the Steelers, Packers, Pats, and Ravens have all seen it work. Given the fact that they had Ware I can definitely endorse the decision.
So why does it work for so many other teams?
Steelers. Patriots (part time). Texans (this year).
The problem isn’t the 3-4 scheme. The problem is the players don’t execute well enough. Rat is a DE but he won’t play it and because he’s been so good in the past, fans (and coaches) give him a pass. Ware commits an offside penalty every game but we all shrug it off because he has 18 sacks. Jenkins is probably average to below average when he’s healthy but we read posts about how he’s playing w/ a bum shoulder and hamstring problems and we applaud his toughness.
It goes on and on. But, the bottom line is that the personnel on the field are inconsistent, undisciplined, and in many cases (Newman, James/Brooking, Elam), the players aren’t very good!
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 24, 2011 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
You could well be right
But I remember the 4-3 we ran in the 2000-2003 era with hardly any talent that was a better defense than what we have now. Maybe with more talent our 3-4 would be better. But with essentially no talent in say 2002, we were better than we are now. Just sayin.’
You may be right
I don’t really remember much about the 2000-2003 era. Was Woody playing then?
Either way, Rob Ryan still has to prove he’s a quality DC. His record as a DC is average, he talks as if once he gets the right people, which he was supposed to have in Dallas, that all would turn around.
So what’s the reason now?
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 24, 2011 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
Woody might have been the difference
Our coverage has been crap since he left.
I’ve always wondered about Ryan. I wasn’t that excited when when they hired him. A lot of folks pointed to how he shut down New England and New Orleans last year, but that was just two games. He definitely needs more talent, but he doesn’t look like a great coordinator to me.
Ehhh
I’d say compare pre and post Ryan defenses. Just by the eye test the defense looks better this year. They just have this problem where a guy can just target Newman and pick up first downs all day by doing that.
Then
they’re not better!!!
Being the DC also should have somethnig to do with acquiring personnel…
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 24, 2011 8:51 PM CST up reply actions
Rob is overrated.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
Oh I agree
But Newman was handed to him and he faced a Colombo like cliff, I don’t think anyone could have seen that coming. Besides it was a short offseason and Rob hardly had the influence last offseason that he should have this offseason. Give him some more time.
9er's had a short off season with a bad qb. Look at them.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah imagine if the Cowboys got to play the Rams and the Seahawks twice
And oh yeah, the Cowboys BEAT the 49ers AT SF!!!!
Troll harder.
by Omar Little on Dec 24, 2011 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
We had Mike Zimmer though, one of the best DC
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
Once the Romo era is over
I think we should seriously consider moving back to a 4-3 or a hybrid defense
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
I agree
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
or a wide 9
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
Juan "How in the hell did I become DC"Castillo
Will be relegated to the dustbins of history as the worst defensive coordinator in history and his wide 9 will be forever scorned and ridiculed.
There's no one around that could coach the 'flex'.
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Funny ,now people want to go to the 4-3.
The 3-4 in Dallas doesn’t work. They don’t have 3-4 personnel.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, maybe something to consider
Depending on what they can find in the draft maybe they can start it sooner…
the pass rush and the corners
that is the problem, nobody can cover for that long, today is the exact reason we need a better pass rush and better corners
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
I agree man
Calais is as close to a “must sign” as it gets. Probably won’t see a good corner around when they pick but you gotta hope for an upgrade at OLB. Too bad they couldn’t have last year’s OLB class this year.
I wouldnt disagree
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah I think so too...
BED’s a bright guy and his questions gave me pause, but maybe he’s just mad about his Buckeyes.
How can he be mad with Urban Meyer coming to town. They'll own the Big Ten with him.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
First home shutout in 20 years???
Jason Garrett should really reflect on the records this team has shattered. But don’t worry, he’ll still consider himself the smartest man in the room.
I will awaken my expectations for the Cowboys when Jerry Jones is in the ground.
by Lord Humungus on Dec 24, 2011 8:28 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Well they weren't shut out
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
I'm guessing that's not what you were saying
But that’s a record that hasn’t been shattered. Yet
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
Thank goodness
We’ve had enough futile records for futility shattered this year. For the talent this team has, it is not very good.
Very true
Although our talent on defense is suspect
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
If we're patched up by next week, we'll be fine against the Giants. I predicted an 8&8
season for the Cowboys, after watching our early losses, and I really do not want to be right. Come on Cowboys, make a liar out of me, please.
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well what angers me is a lot of our losses should be wins, at least 2 of them, Jets and Lions games should be W's and this all would be moot
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
Probably Patriots
And Cardinals
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
This team would look a lot better as a 12-3
or 11-4 team
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
its just frustrating man, we had those games
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
I'm just happy we don;t have to face the Eagles again. Remember when the Cardinals beat us twice, badly, in the same season,
and then the Cowboys won the Superbowl. I hope we can match that feat this year.
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even if we lose in the playoffs if we get in
winning next week would make my season and show me this team can win big games
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
I don't believe we ever won the Super Bowl
In a year the Cardinals swept us. In fact I’m positive of it. Maybe you’re thinking of 1970, when they killed us twice and we made it to Super Bowl V but lost to the Colts.
The other loss was 20 to 7. I remember the 38-zip game well. I share your pain .
Meredith was beside himself. I remember him saying that he finally got a game where he knew something about the team, the coaches etc. and all he got to talk about was the Cardinals.
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I was at the Jets game
Still pissed off about it. There was some idiot in the back that I hope got his house foreclosed on for Christmas.
BAAAAAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHA AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
He thought he was clever by rhyming "Romo" and "homo"
Huge big fat bald guy wearing a custom “Madbacker” Jersey that I’m sure he also found clever. God I hate New Jersey.
I hate customjerseys like that dude
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
If it's like a 49ers 80 with "GOAT" or something on it I guess it's okay
But yeah it’s a completely stupid waste of money.
its still dumb
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
I only buy authentics
I got a Dez a Ware and a Lee, I got a ebay authentic fake Romo I love but I need a real Romo one
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
My mom got me one at the Stadium when she went there.
It’s pretty nice. The authentic (well, the fakes with the stitched names) have really came down in price. 110 bucks or so? I might pick up a Ware and a Dez, Austin, or Lee sometime soon.
I want to be optimistic
But I think we’re going to get slaughtered.
I will awaken my expectations for the Cowboys when Jerry Jones is in the ground.
by Lord Humungus on Dec 24, 2011 8:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Just remember
We hung with them 2 weeks ago. In Romo we trust
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
thats the problem
in Romo I trust but if his hand is messed up we are doomed for failure
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
her "lady" box?
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
Her
Jewelry Box?
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
no you meant her lady box full of sugar juice!
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
Her
box of kool-aid?
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
lol
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
Well yeah
But we’ll have to see just how much he can ball next week. All I know is if there is even the slightest chance he can play, he will
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
we all know that he is tough as nails, straight warrior competitor
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
Is that you, Terry?
;-)
I will awaken my expectations for the Cowboys when Jerry Jones is in the ground.
by Lord Humungus on Dec 24, 2011 8:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Man I can't even imagine a good Terry impression
Although I’d imagine it sounds vvery similar to that
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
I got a funny one but he isnt here so I dont want to laugh at him, but if he was here I would say so we could laugh together
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
cant argue with you
little confidence left in the tank right now
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
true
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
Sanchez is awful
Id take almost any starting QB over him dead serious he is just so dumb
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
He's easily one of the five worst starters in the NFL
He’s just as bad of a passer as Tim Tebow without the rushing ability. There were several plays where I thought Tebow would have been the better player to have, and I’m about as big of a Tebow hater as you’ll find. The only other QBs I’d say are in competition for Sanchez are Grossman, Gabbert, and Moore. Maaaaaybe Alex Smith.
Negative
Bottom 5 QBs:
Gabbert
Painter/Orlovski
Skelton
Yates
Ponder
But Sanchez isn’t too far from the bottom…
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 24, 2011 8:49 PM CST up reply actions
Let me rephrase that
Bottom five that were starters at the beginning of the season or WILL BE starters next year. Painter/Orlovski, Skelton, and Yates don’t really count. They’re backups forced into the role of starters. They are terrible QBs and worse than Sanchez, but I’d hardly call them starters. At least Ponder and Gabbert might improve.
I count them as starters
Injuries happen. Look at Manning. Hell, Batch is starting for teh Steelers. Every team is only as good as their backup QB.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 24, 2011 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
...
Except for the teams that have their starters throughout the year like the Saints, Packers, and Pats. You’re better than that. If you count them as starters now, then fine I’ll concede your point, but my statement was dealing with QBs that teams look at as their “starting QB.”
Ok, so let's go w/ whomever it is YOU consider starters
Sanches is in the bottom half of those. But is Flacco better (look at the #s)? How about Palmer? Colt McCoy?
Is Tim Tebow better than Sanchez?
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 24, 2011 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
Alright, lets go for it.
Is Sanchez better than Flacco? I would say no. Slightly higher completion percentage and rating with 500 fewer yards, more interceptions, and better receivers. Flacco also faces tougher competition.
Palmer? Ehh…I dunno, Carson Palmer this year? Maybe. Carson Palmer if he has an offseason to prepare with the Raiders? Probably not.
Colt McCoy? Yeah you can make a pretty good argument. Colt McCoy is just in his second year, has to play the Ravens and the Steelers twice, and has a worse team around him. I’d rather have Colt McCoy but if you say he’s better than Sanchez I wouldn’t put up much of an argument.
Tim Tebow? No. Absolutely not. I’m Tim Tebow hater number one here, but there were several plays where if Sanchez had Tebow’s toughness and ability to escape pressure and make something happen with his legs the Jets would have been in a far better position. I think they win this game with Tim Tebow.
Ok, we just disagree
I’m not a Sanchez homer as I think he’s bottom half but I’ve seen lots of QB play this year and although Sanchez hasn’t wowwed, he hasn’t stunk as bad as others.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 24, 2011 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
What about Hanie?
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
Jets Have a Ton
investee in Vinny Chase. Too bad for them and Mike Greenberg. Yes, he was awful today
How did he get the nickname Vinny Chase?
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
by LDVFootball on Dec 24, 2011 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
HBO's Entourage
the star of the show is Vinny Chase who resembles Sanchez
LOL Lord. Dallas is a bad team. Jerry has put together a bad collection of players and coaches.
Just another bad loss. As a Dallas fan you get used to your team being unsuccessful.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
What really sucks is that I don't get to publish my "Eagles Got Run Over By A Reindeer" post
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LOL
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
Make it a fanshot in sarcasm font.
I wouldn’t mind reading it.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
I really hate Spencer.............
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
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by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2011 8:42 PM CST reply actions
Another home loss. There is no homefield advantage in Dallas. Other teams love to come in and kick our tail.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
the stadium wasnt built right, noise isnt focused enough, 2nd lazy fans mostly, 3rd Jerry didnt field a team to scream about in a good way.... yet !
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
It was built by a business man; not a football man.
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He’s not a good 3-4 olb, he’d be better as a 4-3 de..If they want to play 3-4 we need a better pass rusher
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Based on what?
Compare Spencer’s stats w/ Greg Ellis (the 3-4 OLB prior to Spencer) – they’re pretty close.
He’s had 2 key forced fumbles (on Grossman at the end of the game) and on Freeman (to stop a game opening drive). Spencer is not Ware but he’s also not horrible.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 24, 2011 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
We need a lot more than a pass rusher.
And the o line needs 3 new interior players. And Free what happened to you ?
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
TY
Ware Had 12 sacks in 2007 in 13 games remember..Never mention Spencer in the same breath
Respect the greatness that is the Dallas Cowboys
Ware is a rare talent
NO ONE in the league is as good as Ware. Why do we keep comparing Spencer to him.
Plus, Ware plays RIGHT OLB. A very different position for garnering sacks than the LEFT OLB.
A better comparison might be Spencer vs. Clay Matthews. Which, of course, Spencer would lose. But, if you compare Spencer to previously determined fairly decent OLBs for Dallas (Ellis) or other LOLBs in the league, he holds his own.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 24, 2011 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
Lets compare then
Has Spencer ever had double digits sacks?
Respect the greatness that is the Dallas Cowboys
Hardly the only measure of talent for a LOLB.
Not that you’re wrong, but that’s a pretty weak way to compare the two by.
How so?
Thats what the opposite olb is suppose to do, get to the qb, we cannot get stops on third down because we don’t have a threat on the opposite side of Ware.
Respect the greatness that is the Dallas Cowboys
Plus, what defensive secondary was Ellis playing with
a shutdown corner in Newman.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 24, 2011 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
Well for one there's other measures of a good LOLB
The secondary he plays in front of like Tyrone mentioned, is a huge part. Another good measure is how many holds he draws, how many pressures he draws, QB hits, etc. Also there’s that whole running game thing which Spencer seems to be pretty damn good at stopping.
I think the sentiment toward Spencer is
that he’s no good. Now it seems as if we’ve stepped to he is good at the run only.
Perhaps you’re right. But, if Victor Butler better at the pash rush so much so that having Spencer on the team isn’t smart? Why doesn’t Butler play more – anyone ever ask that? Is the DC and HC so stupid they can’t see that Butler’s better? Do you here Butler, or other players, clamouring that Spencer isn’t as good and Butler should replace him?
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 24, 2011 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
If we could find a better rusher
We’d be better on d period. Thats my point.Lobby for 6 sacks all you want..We need a woodly type to go with are star not a decent player.
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Good at the run
sometimes, but he misses a whole bunch. He does not act that athletic at the point of attack if you ask me. He has been a bit better this year, but then it is a contract year, is it not?
Nope no double digit sacks
yet. Don’t know if he ever will but Ellis didn’t get 12.5 until his 10th season. And, Ellis played a whole lot more passing downs as Spencer is often removed for Butler.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 24, 2011 9:03 PM CST up reply actions
No he's not
I wish Butler was in on third down more. He gets to the QB!
Respect the greatness that is the Dallas Cowboys
Ellis actually played on some pretty crappy defenses, remember Pete Hunter? Before Ware, there was only Ellis he didnt have help.
Respect the greatness that is the Dallas Cowboys
WHAT?
The year Ellis got 12.5 sacks was the same year Dallas went 13-3 during the regular season. They had Romo, TO, a much younger Witten, Ware and a good Roy Williams (S).
The TEAM WAS GOOD! The last Dallas team that was…
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 24, 2011 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
I realize you two
are pals, but lets be honest here.Spencer has had 4 years to show and prove.Hes a good player not what we need to go to the next level.
Respect the greatness that is the Dallas Cowboys
I completely disagree
if there was a significant pash rush (or better a pocket collapsing D line) from the NT and LDE position, Spencer wouldn’t be dual hatted in stopping the run at some times and trying to rush the pass at others.
Ware is decent against the run but eh’s not as good as Spencer. We all look past what Ware does “just ok” because of his pash rush abilities. Spencer is often-times the most consistent player with the ability to do everything in an above average way. Lee has surpassed him as the best coverage and run stopping LB.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 24, 2011 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
I completely disagree with your disagreement
You find someone that thinks Spencer is better then Ware at Run D. Go ahead. Look long and hard and you will not find it.
Clearly you are a total spencer homer
by burmafrd1944 on Dec 25, 2011 7:12 AM CST up reply actions
Call me a homer if you want
I go w/ the facts. Look at the # of tackles Spencer has vs. Ware (and 18 of Ware’s tackles are QB sacks).
Spencer is THE guy vs. the run. He is. Everyone seems to judge 3-4 OLBs in terms of sacks. Sacks are important, but hardly the only stat.
Don’t get me wrong – I don’t think the Boys should break the bank for Spencer. But, at the same time, I don’t see sending him away w/o a modest offer.
Spencer came into the league w/ a fair amount of hype associated w/ his DE/OLB talents – what makes everyone so sure anyone the Boys draft will be better?
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 25, 2011 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
Spencer is great against the run, no doubt. I’m not going to touch the Ware comment.
But he is not good enough as a pass-rusher, and that is a problem in today’s NFL.
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Dec 25, 2011 7:53 AM CST up reply actions
In NFL Madden 2011 for Xbox
If you move Spencer from LB to DE his rating goes from 83 to 98!
Case closed!!!
please
Don’t even go there.
by soul.rebel138 on Dec 25, 2011 12:56 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Next year
The focus needs to be on defense…Period.Draft/FA we are average at best.Without ware and lee this defense would possibly be as bad as Tampa’s
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The focus should be on a new FO regime.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 9:05 PM CST up reply actions
Never never NEVER going to happen.
I agree but I’ve given up all hope on this front. And it’s a damn shame.
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Jerry gets far too little credit.
If Romo gets a killer pick in next week’s game pretty much everyone will turn on him. Jerry will still have his back. Jerry’s a reasonable guy who takes the long view when assessing talent. Sometimes he does go a bit too long in his evaluations but he’s a guy who’s started the “cut a guy a year too early rather than a year too late.” I think he’s done a pretty good job the past couple of years. Everything they said “HE’S NEVER DONE X1” he’s done. Drafted a WR in the first, drafted an OLmen in the first, fired a coach midseason, hired a coach that will challenge his views, given control to someone else (Stephen and Jerry), he’s not the Jerry when Dave Campo worked there.
by Omar Little on Dec 25, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
Dave Campo got fired?!
Cue the Hallelujah Chorus.
"You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a 2x4." -- Dan Birdwell, Oakland Raiders
RR1 = RedRocket / RR2 = RobRyan
RR3 = Ready for Retirement(JerryJones) / rr = rabblerouser
Uh, what?
he’s a guy who’s started the "cut a guy a year too early rather than a year too late." I think he’s done a pretty good job the past couple of years.
Are you joking?
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I had the same thought when I read that
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
We need way more than an olb. We need de's and a nt. Cb's who can cover and a playmaker at fs.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
This isnt madden
I wish we could solve all of our issues in one off season but it will take 2 at least.
Respect the greatness that is the Dallas Cowboys
I agree it's not Madden. The gm has put this team behind the 8 ball for years to come.
Jerry deserves this mess. The fans don’t.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 9:08 PM CST up reply actions
The Texans solved theres in 1 season
Dallas’ main problem is the need to feel like they need to sign better than average players to contracts that Elite players should receive. Dallas signed a 29 yr old LT to a 7 year contract (Leonard Davis). They signed Rat to a contract that was essentially paying him for past production. Scandrick was overpaid. Newman was given a contract for too many years. Free was OVERPAID for a RT (which the Boys should’ve know he was going there).
This team is loaded w/ overpaid average to above average players. And because of that, they are hamstringed in competing in free agency. Year after year, they are among the tops in salary.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 24, 2011 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
Free agency isn't where teams win.
You win in the draft. And Jerry has failed there terribly the past several seasons for the most part.
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Actually I think Free can be a top...
…RT in this league. He’s out of position this year but he was outstanding in ‘09 on the right side. When they make the tackle swap next year this line will double in its awesomeness. So I don’t think they’ve overpaid for a top tier RT.
The issue for me there remains the interior.
The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.
by gee-roj on Dec 25, 2011 7:46 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
this line has had 0 (zero) awesomeness
0 × 2 = oh crap that’s still zero awesomeness. Flip tackles and either hope the youngins grow up in the middle or acquire some better talent. Then maybe this line will exhibit some awesomeness.
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by CDMac24 on Dec 25, 2011 9:54 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Getting started on it 3 years ago when the problem was still pretty manageable would have been a good idea.
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Moore plays. Carter doesn't.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 9:08 PM CST up reply actions
yes but if we had
Moore we’d be screaming at and breaking our tvs because of his stupid mistakes/penalties. I’ve watched all the Broncos’ games this year and he’s just not that good. He was benched early and is only playing now because of injury. I actually told a friend this week that I’m glad the Cowboys didn’t pick him now even though I wanted him (and he was available) at our pick on the 2nd.
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by CDMac24 on Dec 25, 2011 12:51 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Bruce Carter was responsible for the only score the team had.
Besides it’s way too early to judge a pick negatively when the player hasn’t spent much time on the field.
Keep waiting, yup. Great way to build a team. Nope we don't need any immediate help.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 9:10 PM CST up reply actions
A safety that's missed one tackle for every three he's made?
small sample size, but why do you think that would have been a better pick?
Which is a bigger liability? S or the 2nd ILB? I’m calling push at the very least.
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How many tackles has Carter made ? It ain't hard.
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by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
Moore's made 27 which obviously proves that this first year is a wash for him as well.
And he’s been healthy all season, since training camp.
You’re right, it ain’t hard at all.
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How many passes has Carter broken up ? You're right it ain't hard.
Nothing like drafting a lb that can’t play for a year when this team had so many needs.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
seriously, if you are using Rahim Moore to prove that Bruce Carter shouldn’t have been the pick, you’re going to lose the argument.
If both players are washes, I’ll take the chance on the guy that’s a first round talent versus the best safety in the worst safety draft in recent years.
You don’t like the Carter pick, we get it. To claim they should’ve taken Moore instead is utter stupidity.
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Not just Moore. There were players who could have helped this team and we drafted a lb who can't play for a year.
How can you seriously defend that ? A team desperate for help with many positions that need upgrading and Dallas drafts a lb who can’t play for a year. You think that is a good idea ?
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
I'm talking about this specific post that I responded to that you are trying to hijack
The claim was that the Cowboys should have taken Moore. Moore isn’t good.
Period, end of the discussion I was having.
If you want to argue with someone about the overall merits of drafting Carter, feel free.
There are some defensive 2nd rounders that have had a better rookie campaign than Carter, yes. Moore isn’t one of them. If we had drafted Moore, you’d be on here complaining about him, because that’s what you do.
Your choices are Brooks Reed and Da’Quan Bowers. Those are the only defensive players taken within 10 picks of Carter worth discussing.
Bowers hasn’t been anything to sneeze at, so that just leaves Reed. The draft happened in April, and the lockout changed the entire landscape and kept him out of the Cowboys program. But I guess you want to overlook the fact that he wasn’t able to get into the program when evaluating him?
You don’t draft a player to be a part of your team for 8-10 years because of what they do in the first year. It’s obvious to all that the team hoped to get him worked into their plans, but not being in the OTA’s and minicamps and not being able to work out until September hurt the dude.
But none of that matters to complaining Mensa. Boom or bust with you.
And for the record, yes, I’m perfectly fine with trying to get the steal of the draft and him not playing meaningful snaps this year. If he doesn’t pan out, then pie on my face and the Cowboys, but at least I don’t feel the need to run around and make 3,000 posts complaining about the same thing over and over. You think that is a good idea?
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Kd you aren't smart enough to debate me. You showed your foolishness by defending taking a lb that can't play for a year over a player who could offer immediate help.
Now go write another article.
You just don’t like that I don’t suck up to all the writers and blue google wearing imps. Having one’s own opinion is welcome to you as long as it doesn’t differ with yours. I dare you to tell the truth about this team for once.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
trust me mensa, by what you put forward in your responses
my keyboard by itself is smart enough to debate you.
If you really are as smart as you think you are, then you’re BTB persona is the greatest Halloween costume in the history of little girls playing dress up.
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by KD Drummond on Dec 24, 2011 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
Little girl retorts. LMAO. Figures.
Big man in a little mind. Sad place for K.D.
Again I dare you to tell the truth about this team. You can’t.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
lol- but the irony of you needing to call yourself mensa and tell everyone how smart you are, instead of it being obvious, escapes you.
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And your a lead writer ?
Surely I thought you could recognize the sarcasam that comes with that sn.
Again where is the truth about the team ? Personal shots in lieu of truth is dissapointing coming from you. I thought you wore big boy pants. You were imo the best writer on this blog. Digressing to shots instead of adding to the discussion whether you agree or disagree was surprising. I expect that from others but not you..
Now I see your true colors. Carry on. Mery Christmas btw.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 25, 2011 8:18 AM CST up reply actions
you're right, my apologies
I actually didn’t realize that I took the first shot with my ‘utter stupidity’ comment. Flew off the handle on that one.
But I don’t need to defend my objectivity on this team my dude, it’s evident in every one of my posts. I’ve called the team out almost every week for either the offensive line, the secondary or any of the other myriad of problems they have. Hell, I’ve even been called a Romo hater for pointing out his (limited) failures when they do occur. I just don’t harp on the issues.
The evidence is right there on my user page. I’m as fair as they come in evaluating this team. My true colors? Blue and Silver- no doubt about it.
But again, I escalated this and that’s my fault. Apologies again.
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My apologies back atcha , now let's tell Jerry how to make this team better.
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by football mensa on Dec 25, 2011 8:59 AM CST up reply actions
"Your" a lead writer?
You’re is the contraction for you are.
And you are an idiot.
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BA-HA-HA-HA!
You insult KD’s intelligence and then can’t even spell goggle.
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kd owned you.
all you keep repeating is that carter hasn’t been able to contribute right away.
by johnnypocket on Dec 25, 2011 2:29 PM CST up reply actions
I don't want to interject into an argument here
I just want to say I wish we could have had Bowers. That’s not to say I think Carter will be a bust, I just want more early contribution, and especially more pass rushers (which Bowers is, but Carter wouldn’t do as often at ILB)
I wanted to trade up
and Grab Adrian Clayborn…..
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
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Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
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by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 26, 2011 3:30 AM CST up reply actions
and yes, you agreeing with dude claiming that they should have drafted Moore is proof 100% positive that you complain just to complain.
If you truly were searching for a ‘better’ pick than Carter, than you would be fairly evaluating the other 2nd round players.
You obviously haven’t, because you are claiming that Moore is good. So, you’re complaining just to complain.
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Shhh dont tell anyone mensa but Dallas is silently rebuilding.....
1 safety, 1 ILB, 1 CB, 1 DL 1 OLB, 1 Center, 1 Guard, 1 TE, 1 RB. This team needs a lot of 1 player at several positions.
Carters going to be a home run & if you were the only fan that this team had a serious chance at a run this season then shame on you lol. 2012, 2013, 2014 & 2015 seem to be more of the target dates.
once you see Jerry make a big splash (like he did with Roy Williams) in FA then you know Jerry thinks this teams close. Jerry hasn’t been that involved in signing other teams players for a few years now but its coming soon & expect atleast 2 good runs in the next 4 years with the potential of winning as soon as this season.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Dc that is 9 players you...
have a 1 next to. 9. Dallas won’t draft 9 players unless they trade down.
Nope I thought 6-7 wins this season. That doesn’t make it any less sickening to watch. They have been rebuilding for 15 years. Which of those years will the rebuilding be complete ?
The Roy trade set this team back instead of moving them forward.The 09 draft continues to haunt this team. Jerry made the wrong kind of splash with that move.
I hope like heck that Carter becomes a stud. I want the guy to excel. But, what if he is just an athletic freak ? Not a playa ?
2015 Romo will be 35. How many 35 year old qb’s win superbowls. Jerry screwed the pooch with his core guys. He had a good core to build around. He just didn’t take the proper steps to continue building the team.
Surmising your post , this was a throw away year ?
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 25, 2011 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
Think this year was a 'get better' year
Appears many see it as a failure because its not a ’we’re the best’ year.
Typically, the journey from bad to great goes through mediocre enroute. So be it – can’t let Best get in the way of Better.
I don't make mistakes...just understandable bad choices
1 safety, 1 ILB, 1 CB, 1 DL 1 OLB, 1 Center, 1 Guard, 1 TE, 1 RB
agree with first 7 needs, not the last two. Pretty comfortable with DeMarco/Felix and Witten/whomever
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Agreed.
And really, I’d move ILB and OLB to the back end of that list of 7. If you do that I think that pretty much lists our needs in order from greatest to least (though I’d argue for 2 safeties).
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LOL they hit on one lb outta 10 and they know how to spot lb talent ?
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
BS. Jerry is still the gm. Still his call.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
The infatuation w/ LBs
So when does any other position receive attention besides LB, WR and CB – in the 4th and later rounds?
Look at the drafts of the Packers, Steelers, Patriots, Colts and Ravens (all good teams of late). How do they draft? O and D line (mostly O).
Dallas’ 1st O lineman drafted in the 1st round in the JJ era and he’s good! Really?
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 24, 2011 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
False
Clay Matthews, Ray Lewis, Terrell Suggs, James Farrior, Jerod Mayo, and AJ Hawk were all first round picks, I’m sure there were more but I can’t recall off the top of my head. LaMarr Woodley was a second. The Colts haven’t been much on defense lately so I’d hardly consider them the gold standard.
Ray Lewis was a 1st round pick
12 years ago. So was Suggs. Hawk is OK.
Who was the Packers 1st round pick last year – Sherrod (OL). The year before that – Buluga (OL). The year before that – Raji (DL) and Matthews. Notice the trend.
Ravens 1st round pick of 2011 – Smith (CB). 2010 – no 1st rd pick. 2009 – Oher (OL). 2008 – Flacco. 2007 – Grubbs (OL).
Steelers 1st rd pick 2011 – Heyward (D line). 2010 – Pouncey (OL). 2009 – Hood (DL).
Colts 2011 – Costanzo (OL). 2010 – Hughes (DL). 2009 – Brown (RB). 2008 – Pollak (OL).
Plain and simple – better teams use earlier draft picks on O and D line. The last time the Cowboys used a 1st OR 2nd round pick on an o lineman prior to Tyron Smith was 2004 – and that pick was on Jacob Rogers who was a bust. During that same time, they’ve used a 1st or 2nd round pick on SIX (6) linebackers AND acquired a previous 1st round pick in Brooking.
And here everyone is screaming for yet another high draft pick on another LB…
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 25, 2011 3:07 AM CST up reply actions
Tyrone I would much prefer a stud guard and a huge nt.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 25, 2011 8:19 AM CST up reply actions
Well you're saying they don't draft LBs with their frist round picks
That’s just not true. The Cowboys didn’t have a first round pick in 2009 and in 2010 they had an opportunity to draft Dez Bryant. They took it, which I’m glad they did. The next guy on the list was Jared Odrick a DLman. In 2008 they drafted a corner, which the Ravens have done too he’s kinda injury prone that happens. They did draft a RB that was supposed to be a back up to MBIII that was dumb, but I think they’ve improved their draft philosophy since then. The Packers’ trends are probably not where you want to look. Where they picked in last year’s draft Bulaga was taken right before Dez Bryant. IIRC they had Bryant, Iupati, and Earl Thomas as guys worth trading up for. The guys they liked at their pick were Bulaga and Odrick. So they were looking OL then, but there were two players that had a chance to be something special in Bryant and Thomas that they viewed as worth moving mountains for. When the Packers picked Raji they were 6-10. When the Cowboys were 6-10 they got Tron. When they picked Sherrod they just won the SB, so they just grabbed which ever remaining player had the highest grade which happened to be Sherrod. Their OL was pretty bad the past couple years as they needed to replace both tackles, so that’s why they needed to draft like this. However, they have an elite QB and played in a weaker division so that was good enough to do okay.
I really think the Cowboys are headed in the direction, but just which pick they use on which position is foolish. Other than don’t draft a RB with a first, there’s not too many hard and fast rules for draft success. I like BPA, though. If there’s a James Farrior type LB available I’d rather have him over an above average OLMan. If there’s a Darrelle Revis type corner back available I’d rather have him than Jared Odrick. However, if there’s Haloti Ngata or a Casey Hampton type DLman I’d rather have him than Anthony Spencer. I think teams should draft players based on the players, not the position.
by Omar Little on Dec 25, 2011 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
I hear you Omar
but when was the last time Dallas ever moved UP to get an O lineman? they moved up for Dez, they moved up to get Jenkins, but never moving up for O lineman. Everytime they’re on the clock, there always seems to be some “better” option at a skill position – QB, WR, LB or CB. Really?
Let me ask – was Tyron a smart pick? I would say YES. Hell yes, w/ sugar on top. But he’s one guy. Look at the play of Free – worth the contract he just signed? No. Montrae Holland – it took Dallas to sign him, cut him then re-sign him after he finally got serious and decided to work out. Has Kosier wowwed you? How about Arkin, Kowalski or Nagy? Even if each one of those guys played to 100% of their abilities, it still wouldn’t be to a pro bowl level.
We need PRO-BOWL level O lineman. That’s more important than having pro-bowl level WRs. Pro-Bowl level D linemen is better than pro-bowl level CBs. The Giants proved that when they beat the Patriots a few years back (do you even remember 2 of the 4 starting secondary on that team)?
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 25, 2011 7:47 PM CST up reply actions
an excellent point tyrone
i can’t even remember 1 guy on the gnats secondary when they won it so there ya have it, u build up ur trenches 1st then go for the “flash” players.
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by DarkKnight88 on Dec 25, 2011 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
To answer your question
They did try to move up to take Max Stassi. I’m unsure if they’ve ever moved up to take an OLman in the later rounds. I wouldn’t really call LB a skills position, but seeing as how they were shaky with TO and didn’t like the other options I’d say finding a WR is pretty damn important. They’ve had good luck as of late at that position. So yeah, I’d say most times they’ve picked in the past two or three drafts there have been better options or the guy they liked got snagged ahead of them, like Stassi.
To your point, Doug Free played at a pro bowl level last year, regressed this year but I think that’s product of playing next to lumpy instead of Koiser. I think he’ll play better next year. Has Kosier wowed me? No but he’s definitely a solid player. You can do a hell of a lot worse than him. Akrin, Kowalski, and Nagy are complete unknowns at this point. Akrin for one, projects as a back up that gets a lot of snaps. That’s valuable with aging guards, definitely worth a fourth round pick. Jahri Evans was a fourth round pick and there’s plenty of late round guys who juice up develop into top talent. As far as the OL? It’s pretty damn good by the numbers. Top five in run blocking and top ten in pass blocking. Not as good as NEs or NO’s but better than Pittsburgh’s and Green Bay’s. I like how you bring up Pittsburgh when their OL has been absolutely terrible the past few years. Ben always takes tons of sacks despite having a fairly quick release, tons of mobility, and being impossible to bring down.
Pro-bowl level OLmen is probably more important than having a pro bowl level WR. However, when it’s a very good OLman or an elite WR I’d rather have the elite WR. Dez Bryant was definitely a player worth trading up for. Bryan Bulaga? At the time no, he was technically proficient but had some brain farts in college. They DID target Markice Pouncey and Mike Iupati (maybe it was or) as trade up targets, they were taken well before 20 though, so there goes that opportunity.
As to pro-bowl DLman? I dunno. Is a great pass rush more important than a great cover corner? Not to sure. A guy that can shut down one side of the field is probably better than an elite pass rusher. I’d probably rather have Deion than LT, lets just say that. However, in a 34 the pass rush doesn’t typically come from the interior DL. The great 34 DLman Dallas hasn’t really had the opportunity to draft. Ngata, Jackson, Dorsey, and Raji weren’t available to the Cowboys. Besides, if they’re taking a guy to replace Spencer that’s a guy to help the pass rush and basically a DLman for most defenses.
People were talking the same mess about Sean Lee last year too.
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Merry Xmas and Bah Humbug ...
Looking for good and bad …
Liked JG going for the TD at the end, instead of a FG … an honorable decision … as Aikman noted in the TV broadcast.
Disliked the gadget 3rd down play at the end of the first half. McGee should have just sneaked for the first down (we had their NT outmanned 3-1 in that formation), then stop the clock and work with a fresh set of downs. There is no good reason why the first half score wasn’t 7-3 … although it sure didn’t look like JG cared in any case. Oh wait, that’s his normal look.
Despite this, I still “trust the process,” as JG stated … so merry Xmas to us all, although probably next Xmas.
ps: McGee is a nice backup but not the future. Our fate rests with Romo.
pps: Thank you Bruce Carter for blocking that punt. The final TD was a nice Xmas gift.
good teams
Like pittsburgh, Bal find great lbs in later rounds…Neither would take Carter that high.
Respect the greatness that is the Dallas Cowboys
Agree. Immediate help would be of higher value in my mind. Jerry keeps screwing will be another season wasted.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
Well he'll shut up FootballMensa soon enough then!
They had a first round grade on Carter and he was there in the second, I don’t fault them for taking him.
They had a first round grade on Bobby Carpenter too.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 9:33 PM CST up reply actions
LMAOOOOOOOOO not first round well. SMH.....
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by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 9:34 PM CST up reply actions
Dude if Dallas lost 99-0 and you saw one good tackle you would think we could build around that player.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
Who is saying build around him?
Some people just believe he’ll become a good player and a solid starter.
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You're basically stating that if a player isn't at the top five at his position that he sucks
Sure Carter missed this year, but they took a gamble on a guy that had sick upside. Sometimes that misses but when it hits you get great rewards. He’s been playing great on special teams and he even blocked a punt today. When he’s been on the field on defense he’s looked good. Why he’s not on the field is beyond me, but lets wait at least a year or two before we call it a bad pick, sound good?
by Omar Little on Dec 24, 2011 10:47 PM CST up reply actions
Really Omar. How so ? How do you know he can play ?
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
LOL. They said that about out first pick in the 09 draft. How did that work out. he was even faster than Carter.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
I would take Barkley or rg3 over Luck.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
Andrew Luck
Anyone who’s actually watched him play a significant # of games knows this kid can straight up BALL. He’s the best pro prospect QB this year – hands down.
Barkely and RG3 both had better years but being a great college QB doesn’t always mean they’ll be a great pro QB. Luck isn’t can’t miss but his bust factor is less and his ceiling is higher. Barkely is another Brees and RG3 is another Vick (just bigger, stronger and slower) but Luck is another Brady/Manning/Elway.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 25, 2011 3:15 AM CST up reply actions
Uhhhh
Brees is in that last category, bud. Srsly…look at the dude’s yardage. It’s sick.
by Omar Little on Dec 25, 2011 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
Brees is an elite QBq
but he’s a system QB. Seriously. No one else runs that same system. He has more completions than some other QBs have attempts.
You could pass for 3500 yards in that system…
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 25, 2011 7:49 PM CST up reply actions
Just pointing out
good 3-4 teams are not drafting people that high if they cant come right in and start…
Respect the greatness that is the Dallas Cowboys
Blue I hope Carter becomes a stud. Problem is we have to wait when we had more immediate needs.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 24, 2011 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
Lee and Carter aren't the same player.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
And with that- one more shot of Vodka and Merry Christmas BTB!
I’m out- see y’all on the other side of the chimney
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It was over right after it started
Nobody was in to that game after the first 3 minutes. Not taking much stock in it.
"whoa, whoa, whoa, you got a stagecoach to catch? huh? Slow the **** down" - Al Swearengen
Hey Eagle fans
you might have a chance at the playoffs. If x wins, xx loses, xxx jumps rope on my roof and xxxx forgets to show up…your in!!! bwahahaha!!!
"whoa, whoa, whoa, you got a stagecoach to catch? huh? Slow the **** down" - Al Swearengen
it's nice to see the all choke team go down in flames.....
the BOYS need to focus on the giants and, unless the pass defense, pass rush and o-line do a complete 180 we are toast…..
re the iggles……..just another in a long line of seasons with no Super Bowl….same old, same old,,,,,……
It was going to come down to this
and I couldn’t wish for a better way to end or continue the season. Show us your mettle boys or be gone until next year. If you lose then you were an average team hanging on, if you win then show us what your made of. Simple as that.
"whoa, whoa, whoa, you got a stagecoach to catch? huh? Slow the **** down" - Al Swearengen
Merry Christmas
and thankyou baby Jesus for the Dallas Cowboys. All I ask for is a fair game next week, where the Cowboys will destroy those sissy boy giants.
unless its at Al Swearengen quote
God rest the souls of that poor family….and p***sys half price for the next 15 minutes.
"whoa, whoa, whoa, you got a stagecoach to catch? huh? Slow the **** down" - Al Swearengen
Heres my take
We were playing with a 3rd string QB and a 4th and 5th string RB in a game that had no playoff impact.
Next weeks game is do or die. I don’t think they intentionally tanked this game, but it wasn’t a ‘do or die game’ for the Cowboys like it was (at first) for the Eagles.
Our O line is still a concern and the defense still is a concern, but for as many opportunities as our depleted offense gave to get the Eagle’s offense back on the field, holding the Eagles to 20 points was a good result for our D.
If your D holds an opponent to 20 points in the NFL, your O should be able to make it competitive.
We didn’t but we had our practice squad going against their starters.
With all the injuries we had, I never expected to win this game. When Romo went out, that clinched it in my book.
I’m not convinced the Boys went all in for this game. If they look like pansies when they go against the Giants next week when all the chips are on the table, then I will join in on the verbal crucifixion.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
If your D holds an opponent to 20 pts
Did you miss the stupid eagle WR who threw the ball at the pile on trying to score the TD? That had nothing to do with a cowboy player making a play but everything to do with an idiot WR who doesn’t know the rules of the game. I’m sure Jerry Jones will attempt to sign the moron for next yrs team.
O-line, pass rush and pass D......
You’re right, it’s hard to really know what would have happened if the game mattered but, nonetheless, oline, pass rush and pass d have been problems all year and I have no reason to believe they won’t be problems going forward.
Hopefully we beat the giants but we have a long way to go to be a real superbowl contender.
Waste of time.
Watching the Cowboys games have become a waste of time for me now. I was not surprised to hear in the news that the Cowboys lost to the Eagles, I kind of had that feeling anyways. Next week will be more of the same, so why pretend they have hope. Giants 27-Cowboys 14. So says Chetohimler.
I don't think it matters if we make the playoffs or not, we aren't a contender
I don’t say this to be a Debbie Downer or to poor mouth the team. I just think we are too hurt and that we haven’t picked up the defense very well this year.
I’m pretty satisfied with our offense.
Defensively though, we aren’t consistent.
- Our front seven can’t seem to generate a good pass rush against decent teams from anyone not named Ware.
- Our secondary can’t seem to understand the coverages required for this scheme.
I just feel that Garrett needs another season or two to get the right personnel in all the key positions. Safety has been a problem area since Darren Woodson retired and I don’t think TNew has the mental makeup for what Ryan wants from him. I like Jenkins personally.
We went offense heavy in the draft last year and I think that was the right move. Tyron Smith has been everything I hoped he would be and I hope he has won over the crowd that was so adamantly opposed to him last year. But this year I think we need to go defense heavy. It doesn’t look like we have the players for the scheme. We need some more pass rushers. I’d draft a safety in the first two rounds if the value is there and we need a baller at CB.
I don’t know guys, just seems like year one of an overhaul to me. I hope Jerry gives Jason the time to right the ship but I also fear that Jerry is the common denominator in our very very very long trip through the desert wastelands of mediocrity.
I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010
I want them to do as well as they can with the talent that they have.
Which means, making the playoffs would be a big win. Everything after that is gravy.
by Mr._Mulligan on Dec 25, 2011 12:35 AM CST up reply actions
O Line interior
To me that is a prime area. We already know we have to increase the pass rush and better the secondary but the O line really needs help
1)Flip Tyron and Free
2)find out if Killer can be the man in the middle
3) find at least ONE good guard in FA
I think those sound reasonable.
Costa sucks. Why is he still in there? To me, Killer looks much better. At least he remembers the snap count and doesn’t get blown up consistently.
Grubbs.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 25, 2011 9:00 AM CST up reply actions
Hey Dez
That talented but lazy shirt looks ridiculous. 102 career catches in 25 career games. The shirt should have read wasted talent.
Rob Ryan is the most overrated defensive cordinator in the NFL. His defense makes Vick’s accuracy and decision making ability remind me of Joe Montana.
What’s the line in Texas. All hat no cattle. Sums up this team for the past 5 yrs.
Lets hope the gints put us all out of our misery and so we can start focusing on the draft.
On Rob and the future
My outlook for the defense at the beginning of the year- Terrible
Rob came in here without a training camp to get people up to speed and without a single draft pick*. He did bring in 2 guys from free agency, this is true. But neither are what you would call ‘blue chippers’.
I guess people expect the defense to be as good as he says it is? :chuckle: The ridiculous bragging is just his particular brand of motivation. His first job is to inspire confidence and nobody on this squad was very confident coming into the year. (see Jenkins)
Every Coach has a scheme. Every scheme has a player. Impressive players Ryan inherited and is relying on on a regular basis-
McCray, Walker, James, Brooking, Church, Ball andmanymore… We have had a couple bad drafts around here and that will bite you down the road.
Earlier in the year I liked where the defense was headed. I still do, there have been signs he knows what he is doing. Give him a draft. Give him an off season.
- I argue the carter pick is deferred.
MacGruber!
I think the Ryan`s are great!!!!
at over promising and under delivering and the only reason we keep hearing how great they are is that they constantly keep reminding us.
I may not be a doctor but....
After coaching sports for almost 25 years I have never never never ever seen a sollen ( but not broken) hand left untreated by ice ice and more ice. Are they morons or was it something else ?
I'm a 4th yr med student and I'm shocked it's not broken.
It looked broken to me. I’m sure they shot it with a steroid immediately but I agree I’m not sure why they didn’t have I’ve on it. But these guys do things even I am unsure of. They cut a 6 month healing time injury into 3 months. Idk how they do it.
by Dynamicduo on Dec 25, 2011 9:54 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm worried, as well. Even if nothing is broken, the swelling would seem to indicate some
ligament damage in the hand. Even if Romo can play, I wonder if he will be accurate. I guess it’s the last chance for some more Romo heroics.
by Mr._Mulligan on Dec 25, 2011 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
Sorry truth about next weeks game
is the Giants are playing better ball than us and are the hungrier team and wants it more than we do. Entire NFC East suck and that`s why we still have a shot and lastly the Giants enter the matchup against our Cowboys on fire having won 2 of their last 7 games.
Did you see the Giants-Jets game? Giants are playing horrible.
Jets played even worse. You can’t judge the Cowboys on yesterday’s game. Mostly backups playing.
by Mr._Mulligan on Dec 25, 2011 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
Lol
@ the people here giving up. When we win and make the playoffs next week you will all be talking about how good we are. People overreact too much over a meaningless game. Did you notice there were no twist, stunts, or anything? We were playing vanilla… You cannot take anything from that game… Next Sunday 8:20 pm… I’ll see you all there.
by drobe86 on Dec 25, 2011 10:52 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Yeah, that's true if they were playing vanilla
Our D played pretty gutsy for being on the field quite a bit and they kept Philly’s points fairly low considering how many “shots on goal” Philly had. This would all be pretty good if they were playing vanilla.
It doesn’t change my opinion that Dallas is a few notches back from the elite teams in the NFL. I’m not into ditching games on purpose as I think that’s bad for the players’ confidence and morale. However, if we get flatlined in NY next week I’m not going to be totally deflated b/c I don’t think we got the goods to go the distance as it is. Losing in NY next week just means a higher draft pick.
I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010
Yep, it's been a tough year..
And I am a Giant’s fan. Good game, bad game, each week has been an adventure. Since NYG won yesterday, nod goes to the cowboys next week to win. As it has been said, winner most likely will be 1 and done. However, you look at the secondaries for GB, NO, NE, NY, Dallas, they all are horrible this year. IMO the IQ’s of the average NFL player these days keeps getting worse. Some of there guys can’t even speak english. And you wonder why they struggle with the mental aspect of the game. Both teams need to build through the draft / FA to fill all the holes.When healthy the Giants are the better defense, although Dallas has the better coordinator, just not all the right pieces. It’s hard to watch either of these teams play.
We are a medicre team at best and if Tony can't play effectively next week we are well below average.
Let’s face it this team lives and dies by Romo. We need such an infusion of talent to really help him that we will need to hit on every draft ptck and find a way to increase cap space for some free agents in the offseason.
I’ll always root for the Boys to win, but I won’t be devastated if they lose in NY next Sunday.
The Eagles are history and if we lose we probably will be drafting before them assuming our strength of schedule was easier than theirs. That makes up for our failures this year to a degree. I really can’t stand that team from Philly, so as long as they don’t win I consider it a Pyrrhic vtctory.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
i don't get it. why are people crying about this game?
to hell with the hate between to the two teams, they had nothing to play for, so why risk a players health because you feel it’s necessary to win a game that has nothing at stake?
everything is on the line next week. this game was nothing more than a glorified scrimmage to everyone involved.
if you think this team is going to burst into flames next week. then you’re more ignorant then you think you are. so let’s get it poppin for next week’s game. the gauntlet starts then.
because people hate rooting for a team that is mediocre or worse?
yesterday was my chance to bring my 6yr old nephew over to the Cowboys’ side of things permanently. Everybody was watching the game – Cowboys games are a HUGE deal in my family and I do what it takes to make it that way – and the Cowboys just suck. Were nearly shut out.
Every game matters. Every snap matters. Getting beaten by the guy across from you means you suck. The Cowboys have a lot of guys who suck, and in a forum like this, we’re free to voice our displeasure.
Call me a moron.
I only show up to mock other posters, jeer at the writing here, and make strange complaints about internet culture.
by Joey2zs on Dec 25, 2011 3:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The koolaid drinkers crack me up around here.
They get so offended when somebody tells it like it is. Don’t even sweat it, they’re the morons here.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
They had their rear ends handed to them the last time they played the Iggles.
Nothing to play for ? Since when is pride and defending home turf nothing to play for ? Look at the Cowboys home record in Jerryworld. The team m.o. has infected the fan base. SMH
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
you're a moron.
since when is swallowing your pride a bad thing? and based upon your reasoning, hall of fame coach mensa what is your strategy coming into this week’s game?
your response" DUHHHH JERRY JONES KILLED OUR COWBOYS, ROMO CHOKES IN DECEMBER DUHHHHH FIRE GARETTT DERP."
and your master plan to quarantine this epidemic is? bro, as much you like to be a statistical guru or whatever you want to call yourself, you defy logic. go crawl back into your hole where you came from.
by Chris Ivan22 on Dec 25, 2011 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
Statistical guru ? LMAO
Chris you wear the silver n blue goggles and drink the koolaid. No sweat off of my back.
Defy what logic ? That I state how bad Dallas is. How the gm drove them into the ground. Don’t buy into the hype. Tripe like you accept losing by the Cowboys. See yesterday’s game. All of a sudden the game meant nothing. LOL. Glad you are comfortable with losing to the Iggles twice in a season.
Your inner soul is for sale. Jerry has bought you. Awesome guy. As a fan you have fulfilled Jerry’s commands of accept the inferior product on the field and keep believing. LOL. Carry on sport. You and those like you are the entertainment here.
The master plan would include the resignation of the gm.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Dec 25, 2011 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
5-3 at home this year
not great. But not horrible.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Dec 25, 2011 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
Dallas has lost it's last six games on Sun night??
I was shocked when I read that
Now I don’t know if I should be encouraged because of the streak, or fear the law of averages that says the Boys are due…
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
I just came in from outside
and I could have sworn the sky was still up there. Reading these comments made me check again because I think some people thought it was falling.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
Not falling, there's always the draft!
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
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