Back to the Future: The 4-3 Flex Defense
Greetings BtB, this is my first fan-post here, but after this roller-coaster season of defensive letdowns and debacles I wanted to not just "vent" but at least air this out for a little thought.
Woeful after woeful performances by the Cowboys Defense has left a lot of us Cowboys fan wondering: "How the heck can we fix this defense"? I'm not sure if there is a simple answer to that question.Clearly the front office (aka Jerry Jones) needs to make some radical overhauls at several Key positions (DB please, please, please). However, I posit that one of the main sources of our defensive failures over the recent years (contrary to sometimes impressive stats) is that we, and by we I mean the coaching staff, are essentially out-scheming ourselves and playing a defense that does not in any way cater to the strengths of our defensive players.
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In 2003 Bill "Big Tuna" Parcells came out of retirement to coach the Dallas Cowboys and he brought his 3-4 defense with him. However, since leaving after the 2006 season, the Cowboys have retained the basic concepts of Parcells 3-4 defenses (of course with Wade Phillips and now Rob Ryan twists). But is the 3-4 really serving our needs, and more importantly is it maximizing our defensive players potentials? I would say at one time it absolutely did, however that time has long since passed. A fundamental change is needed, something that will alter the very essence of this defense; not only in strategical "diagram" terms, but also in future players selection. Luckily we Cowboys fans need not search far to find the answer. We need only look to perhaps the greatest Cowboys of them all, for he has the answers.
What's the answer? Well unless you didn't read the title you probably know what I'm about to opine. The solution? Bring back the good ole 4-3 Flex defense! As any Cowboys fan will tell you, Tom Landry (god rest him) is largely credited with the invention and popularization of this base defense. A majority of the teams in the NFL run a derivation of this defense and most if not all teams have run the 4-3 at one point since at least the 1970's. Along with the 3-4, the 4-3 has also gone through periods of popularity and obscurity.
I'm not going to go into all the mundane differences between the 3-4 and the 4-3 but here are some key tenets of both schemes and some of the big differences.
3-4 Defense.
As you can see, this is what the 'Boys currently run. The most important positions in a 3-4 (of the front seven) are the Nose Tackle (Jay Ratliff) and the two Inside Linebackers (Sean Lee and James/Brookings).
NT:
At one time Jay Ratliff was an elite manster-like NT, using his smaller stature to slip between slower Centers and Guards. While he is no doubt still an effective NT, the years of wear and constant double teams have noticeably taken their toll.
ILB:
Sean Lee is a man amongst boys in this defense. He plays better with one hand than anyone else (excluding D-Ware) does with two. So no problems with him. Bradie James himself knows he's done, EVERYONE knows he's done, so not going to harp on that. The same goes for Keith Brookings whom I genuinely find a likeable guy, but 16 years in the league have robbed him of anything he thought he had left in the tank.
You'll notice I don't have Bruce Carter here, that's because he hasn't so much as sniffed a meaningful down as an ILB so far (great blocked punt today by the way!). Why? Only god and Rob Ryan knows. So for the purposes of this fan-post I'll put this position as VACANT.
So: Ratliff (getting older and not as effective a NT as he was even three years ago), Lee (Thank you baby Jesus), and VACANT. Not great.
This doesn't even mention our DE's who lets face it....are just a bunch of JAG's (excluding Lissemore who actually shows some promise). Our OLB's: Ware (Best 'Boys pass-rusher since Haley, but really more of a DE if you think about it) and Almost Anthony Spencer. So out of our four Linebacker's, we really only have one true Linebacker (Sean Lee) and thank god he's amazing. As someone a lot smarter than me once said,
"I think good coaches will coach with the personnel they have,and if you only have one good Linebacker, you're not going to play a 3-4" --Hank Bullough
The 4-3:
Obviously with the 4-3 there are some positional changes to be made within the front seven. The major differences are that DE's now become the most important position on the line, and now your solitary middle linebacker must be smart, athletic and have the power to fill the A or B Gaps in the middle. I'm no genius but here's how I envision it with our CURRENT players alone.
DT's: Jay Ratliff (moved from NT) Marcus Spears (Run Stopper)
DE's: Demarcus Ware (played DE all throughout HS and College it's his natural position) Jason Hatcher
Mike Linebacker: Sean Lee (has played a 4-3 at Penn State, and he already is the QB of the defense)
Outside LB's: Bruce Carter (fast, big enough to come fill holes from the outside) VACANT (FA pickup or Draft)
With Ware if you really wanted to emulate Landry you could use him like Tom used the Manster himself. Moving him all around the line in a sort of "Rover" look. I think it would be very similar to the way Rob Ryan has been using D-Ware.
I think this single adjustment would cure a lot of match-up failures the Cowboys seem to lose. This would take a ton of wear off Ratliff and allow Hatcher and Ware to do what they do best without having to worry about potentially losing outside contain, or god forbid cover a pass route.
Will this ever happen? Probably not, but It can't stop me from dreaming it's possible.
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Flex defense isnt just the 4-3 alignment
Landry pulled linemen a couple yards back off the line of scrimmage to give them better pursuit angles. Landry either studied tendencies more, or had great intuition on where the offense was planning to go on any particular play. The problem is that we don’t have Landry. Thats why no one else has been successful using that defense.
Actually Parcells forced Landry to ditch the flex in 1984
By constantly throwing on first down. It was designed in the mid-1960’s to counter the Packers sweep and “run to daylight” concept, by not overcommiting the defensive line. Great idea to stop the run, but by backing two of the defensive linemen off the line of scrimmage, it was hard to generate a pass rush against all but the most inept offensive lines.
I distinctly remember Parcells throwing on first down again and again, until Landry had to adjust. The flex was used sporadically after that, but as a base defense, it was rendered obsolete by the modern passing game.
Not sure the flex is the right answer either but the 3-4 with the players we have sucks.
We rush 5 guys every passing play and still get no pressure on the QB.
I am all for switching back to the 4-3. A D-line of Ware, Ratliff, Lissimore, and Spencer would be pretty good. Have Lee, Carter, and James at linebacker and I think it works.
Everyone knows our secondary sucks but when you put no pressure on the QB it compounds the problem.
If we made a commitment to get the right players to play the 3-4 it would be successful but I would still rather switch back to the 4-3.
As long as ware is here we will be a 3-4
I know he was a 4-3 end in college, but he is a 3-4capable Olb. That’s what he’s built for and its proven over and over you scheme around your players not the other way around or you end up like the redskins with Rex Grossman as you “system player”
by stegosaurus! on Dec 24, 2011 10:48 PM CST via mobile reply actions
- the capable after 3-4 I don’t know why my phone adds words onto numbers…
by stegosaurus! on Dec 24, 2011 10:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm sorry...
But it is not the system that is in place that is the problem. It is the players that we have that is not executing the scheme. Tampa runs a 4-3 and they suck on defense. The Steelers, Ravens, and the 49ers run a 3-4 and they are good. So do you still want to change to a 3-4 just to change?
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
If you watch the history of the Cowboys, the flex was falling behind late 80's Offenses
Landry was such an innovator but the game changed too much toward the end of his career.
Don’t get me wrong, I love Landry. Had a chance to talk with him for 15 minutes one time. He took the time to talk to all of us valets (School job). He told a few stories and laughed about his wife taking too long. Just a gentleman.
BTW, Jimmy was loud and fun. Tipped great.
Jerry was loud and tipped lousy.
a change in d would not matter
We have zero pressure guys..
Dallas better spend some money on DE next year and draft some cbs ..
I hate the fact we miss out on cullen jenkins this year… Tnew is wash up
by lostar2009 on Dec 25, 2011 2:06 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Tburn was done long ago.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
should have went after j. joseph
by lostar2009 on Dec 25, 2011 10:25 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
+1
Optimissum Prime sees nothing but the best for America's Team!!!
by Cowboys_Attack on Dec 25, 2011 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
+1000
i never understood going after NNamdi when J.Joseph was cheaper, younger & very good CB.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
I didnt understand it either
the Cowboys need to do exactly what the Texans did this offseason, defense defense defense
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!
by Archie Barberio on Dec 26, 2011 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
i think dallas shoudl try to snatch adequate players to use both looks
i like the line up you suggest but i would change hatcher with ratliff
Rec'd Great first time FanPost.
Well thoughtout and put together. Even if we don’t switch to the old Flex we could still throw it in to confuse with the players we have on a down here and there. I really hope to see us go heavy in this draft on Defense. One player you didnt mention who could help in the 4-3 at the olb position is Butler. He would do very good rushing the passer behind Ware as a DE.
Optimissum Prime sees nothing but the best for America's Team!!!
by Cowboys_Attack on Dec 25, 2011 12:22 PM CST reply actions
We do use a lot of different fronts though...
But again, switching schemes is not going to help. Switching sucky players for good players helps the scheme alot.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
well its harder to find 3-4 front 7 personnel then 4-3.
theres a lot more capable 4-3 DEs over 3-4 OLBs.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Everything else aside, DE is not Wares natural position.
Saying that would assume that Ware would somehow be better at DE than OLB. And given what Ware has done at OLB, there is exactly almost no chance of him being better at DE.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Creasy729 on Dec 25, 2011 2:40 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Ware is better than Haley
He is the best rusher the Cowboys have every had.
Best Cowboy pass rushers
Demarcus Ware
Harvey Martin
Randy White / Bob Lilly
Charles Haley
Ed Jones
George Andre
Jethro Pugh
Greg Ellis
Jim Jeffcoat
Tony Tolbert
Jimmie Jones
John Dutton
It's crazy how much I agree
Ratliff is more of a 4-3 DT than a nosetackle. Sean Lee is smart and plays well in space. Bruce Carter isn’t being used right. They don’t even use him on nickel downs. Spencer would be slightly better at DE or Pick up Mario Williams…it fits
Good Post Snakeshift.
As much as I loved Landry’s flex, with the passing game today I don’t believe it would be effective. Some here, myself included have wondered if the boys personel fit a 4 – 3 better than the 3 -4. Hopefully Lee and Carter will provide the speed needed to make the 3 -4 work. The wish list still includes a pass rusher, a corner, a free safety and a defensive end.
rec.

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