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Grading Eagles @ Cowboys: Performances We Should Quickly Forget

The Cowboys season will be decided on Sunday night at the Meadowlands. It therefore really doesn't serve much purpose to review the performances of a game that had the look and feel of a preseason game - and a bad one at that - or does it?

As you look over the individual player grades in the post below, there's one question you will have to answer for yourself: Did the Cowboys play the way they did because they knew early on that it was a meaningless game, or did they play the way they did because they couldn't play any better?

After the break, we look at how the individual efforts on the team graded out. As usual, we'll be using the Pro Football Focus player grades to do that, and it won't be pretty. Let's hope these are grades we can quickly forget and thyt they are not indicative of much more serious issues with the team.

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Follow the link for PFF's detailed FAQ, which should answer the vast majority of questions about their grading system. PFF also have their own review of the game which is always worth checking out. This week they focus on the tackles, Jay Ratliff, Stephen McGee and Sammy Morris.

Offensive line

The Cowboys offensive line had its worst game of the season. If you watched the game, this is not even debatable. Sure, perhaps Tony Romo would have made the line look better than it actually was, perhaps Felix Jones would have been a better blocking back. But it is what it is. The line play was really bad. Here's how it compares to the other 2011 games so far:


WK 1 WK 2 WK 3 WK 4 WK 6 WK 7 WK 8 WK 9 WK 10 WK 11 WK 12 WK 13 WK 14 WK 15 WK 16

NYJ SF WAS DET NE STL PHI SEA BUF WAS MIA ARI NYG TB PHI
Overall Grade
-1.4 -12.4 -6.0 +9.2 -14.9 +4.9 +1.2 +4.9 +9.9 -2.4 -2.3 +0.8 +7.8 +0.2 -15.6

The table below summarizes the individual grades for the linemen. Because they were all bad in run blocking, but atrocious in pass blocking, I'll limit the grade to the overall grade and show the number of QB disruptions each lineman gave up:


Free Holland Costa Kosier Smith

LT LG C RG RT
Total
-4.4 -2.1 +0.2 -2.9 -6.4
Sacks
1 1 - - - - 1
Hits
1 - - - - 2 1
Pressures
6 - - - - 2 3

The Eagles' Trent Cole abused Doug Free all day and got a +6.3 grade for his efforts, the best grade for any Eagle on Saturday. Tyron Smith looked like a rookie all day and the guard play was nothing to write home about either. Costa in the middle was the only linemen with at least an average performance (not a sentence I thought I'd ever write).

Skill Position Players
  • Sammy Morris (34 of 69 snaps, +1.9): The grades liked Morris as a receiver (+0.8) as a runner (+0.8) and as a blocker (+0.3). Felix Jones, who only saw seven snaps in the game also graded out well with a +1.3, and even Chauncey Washington got a positive grade (+0.3) on 17 snaps).
  • Martellus Bennett (36/69, +1.1). Chances are, if the runners were getting positive yardage, they were running into a hole created by Martellus Bennet. Jason Witten (69/69, -2.1) got downgraded for his below average pass blocking and receiving, Tony Fiammetta only saw 17 snaps and wasn't much of a factor (-0.7), John Phillips only saw the field for two snaps.
  • Dez Bryant (54/69, +0.2). Bryant got a +1.1 in the passing game, but that was negated by his illegal shift penalty (declined) on what turned out to be an abomination of a screen pass to Sammy Morris on 3rd-and-1 in the second quarter. Miles Austin (66/69, +0.0) did get the TD in the end but had only four catches on eight targets overall. Laurent Robinson (40/69, -0.6) had one catch for five yards and was much less of a force with McGee than he had been with Romo.
  • Stephen McGee (65/69, -3.4). Here's what McGee did well: he didn't throw an interception, he managed an 83.4 passer rating, and to his credit, he did attempt a few passes downfield. But 4.8 yards per attempt just won't cut it in the NFL. That may be a bit harsh, but you can't dink and dunk your way down the field all the time. The Cowboys did not have a single play of more than 20 yards, the Eagles had seven. That stat line right there is the game in a nutshell.
Front seven

When all is said and done, this game came down to execution. Some players executed their assignment, some didn't, or at least didn't do it consistently. Keith Brooking sums it up:

"Defensively, the first half, we didn't execute," Brooking said. "We didn't get to the quarterback. We weren't good underneath in our coverages. We weren't deep in our coverages. We have to get that fixed."

Rob Ryan did not agree with Brooking on the blown coverages, but agreed on pretty much everything else:

"There were no blown coverages, that's everybody's story," Ryan said. "How about we just didn't execute. That's the simple thing. The guy throws a touchdown pass into double coverage, in the redzone, on third down. That's just not good football. Other than that, we'll be fine."

Here's how the front seven graded out.

DL OLBs ILBs
Starters Backups Starters Backups Starters Backup
Coleman Ratliff Hatcher Spears Lissemore Ware Spencer Butler Lee James Brooking
Snaps (62 total)
23 39 30 23 20 52 56 21 43 34 25
Rating
+1.5 +5.6 -2.5 +0.0 -0.4 +3.9 -1.1 -0.1 +0.5 -1.9 -0.0

Despite this having the look and feel of a preseason game, the backups did not get a lot of playing time. Clifton Geathers (8/62, +0.8), Alex Albright (4/62, +0.0) and Bruce Carter (3/62, +0.1) all didn't play a big role on Saturday.

Secondary

  • Mike Jenkins (50 of 62 snaps, -1.2).Three targets, three receptions, one for a TD.
  • Terence Newman (57/62, -0.2). Newman had five tackles, second on the team only to Spencer's six and generated a pressure on the one snap he rushed the passer. But in coverage, he gave up 72 yards on four receptions.
  • Orlando Scandrick (43/62, -2.6). Two missed tackles, two passes given up to Avant and one to Maclin get Scandrick the second worst grade of the season.
  • Gerald Sensabaugh (62/46, -1.6)) Two receptions on two targets, as well as one TD go against Sensabaugh. Abram Elam (62/62, -0.2) was solid against the run but graded out poorly against the pass.

The Cowboys held LeSean McCoy (-1.6) to a miserly 35 yards on 13 runs and held the Eagles overall to 105 yards on the ground. That is a significant improvement over the 239 rushing yards the defense hemorrhaged in their first meeting this year. The issue this time around clearly was the pass defense, which gave up 281 yards, the third highest total this season.

Overall though, the Eagles offense did not grade out all that well. Left tackle Jason Peters (+3.5) and left guard Evan Mathis (+2.3) continued their season-long good performance, while the right side of the line all graded out negatively. Jeremy Maclin (+2.3)and DeSean Jackson (+1.4) were the only other Eagles on offense with a grade above 1.0.

On defense, not a single Eagles player graded out below -1.0, and the bulk of the positive grades were garnered by the Eagles defensive line.

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confusing

OCC, in the Front Seven section you start talking about the Bucs game all of a sudden… is that be design or did some of last week’s article sneak into this one? lol

"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry

by scottmaui on Dec 27, 2011 8:39 AM CST reply actions  

The Offensive line section

Week 16 why does it say NYG?

Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys

DeMarcus is EveryWare Man

Twitter: @silva918

by Antonio S on Dec 27, 2011 8:50 AM CST reply actions  

Apologies. Those errors should be fixed now.

by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 27, 2011 9:05 AM CST up reply actions  

One more.

“DoucheAwn,” as he’s known in Eagle-land, is referred to by McCoy’s first name at the end of the article.

by CotySaxman on Dec 27, 2011 11:21 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

i hate to say that i have NO faith going into sunday...

but i have NO faith going into sunday. i really believe this team is one or two steps away from being a true champion, but its also one or two steps away from a rebuild.

case and point:

tnew
james
brooking
sensi

and look at that, all on defense. i think once rr drafts some key players for his schemes things will be different, i have huge hopes for 2012, but will never truely give up on 2011.

by rockkicker on Dec 27, 2011 9:36 AM CST reply actions  

The '09 draft really set up back

Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys

DeMarcus is EveryWare Man

Twitter: @silva918

by Antonio S on Dec 27, 2011 9:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Jason Williams

Dumb.

Dunb.

Dumb.

Just dumb.

by Rome One on Dec 27, 2011 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

I know and I think about that every day

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!

by Archie Barberio on Dec 27, 2011 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Other then Ware, Lee and maybe Rat

name another player that is solid week in and out?

"Talent is God-given; be humble. Fame is man-given; be grateful. Conceit is self-given; be careful." John Wooden

by 082288 on Dec 27, 2011 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

I like Ratliff but he hasnt been solid this year

He really hasnt been a factor for almost two seasons now,

The offseason can't come quick enough!!!

by Boyzfan94 on Dec 27, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

theres a lot more to it than sacks

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Dec 27, 2011 10:49 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree

but he has been getting pushed around an awful lot. He is on the other side of 30 now. Its time to get that big athltetic mountain in the middlle. If were planning on revamping the DL might as well start there. There are a few guys in the draft who can fill that need.

The offseason can't come quick enough!!!

by Boyzfan94 on Dec 27, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Rat's best years are behind him.

He’s still a good player, but not for 60 minutes at DT. Rat will have a great play here and there in the run game because he’s a “slasher” but he doesn’t have the girth to colapse the pocket or demand a constant double team throughout the play on passing downs. He’s doubled at the beginning of plays to negate his quickness and then they peel off of him when needed.

Having a DT get sacks is a bonus, but they must “crush” the pocket to flush the QB to one side or the other. Opposing QB’s seem to always have a comfortable pocket in the middle more times than not. We get pressure from the edges, but then those edge rushers must work themselves back into the pocket to get to the QB.

Rat would be better served at DE with his “slashing” style at this time in his career because he is getting pushed around especially when doubled in the middle. Every single game we get pressure on the edges, but the pressure up the middle is absent. We need a lot better pressure coming from the middle of the line.

by T Zig on Dec 27, 2011 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

What?? Are people actually watching Ratliff play?

He is consistently getting QB pressures, top 10 in the league, and doing a more than decent job against the run.

He’s like the 4th best (overall) DT/NT in the league this year.

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by KD Drummond on Dec 27, 2011 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, we will see just how much pressure he gives us Sunday night

without blitzing. Because that’s what Ryan did last time we played the Giants. We blitzed a lot and didn’t get there. This time, I think he will not blitz Eli as much, so I really do hope that pressure your refering to is there.

A top 10 DT in the league should be able to crush that pocket and get pressure in a playoff game. I have serious doubts about his ability to do that regardless of what the stats say. I hope I’m wrong.

by T Zig on Dec 27, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Over the last couple of seasons

Ratliff has become less effective and teams have been able to run up the middle more. I know its not about the sacks, but without blitzing there is no pressure up the middle. The teams with good OLs Ratliff has become a non factor in many of them. Rat at DE would only extend his career because he isnt getting any younger.

The offseason can't come quick enough!!!

by Boyzfan94 on Dec 27, 2011 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I disagree

wasn’t fond of Ratliff’s play in 2010, but I’m liking it this year. Hes making plays constantly, the problem is that its still him and Ware and generally nobody else.

by foyesboys on Dec 27, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

kinda disagree

Its been Ware and Lee and thats about it.

The offseason can't come quick enough!!!

by Boyzfan94 on Dec 27, 2011 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

nonsense...Rat has been a stud this season

every bit as much as Ware if not more.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 27, 2011 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

coaches and players think otherwise

as evidenced by their pro bowl votes

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 28, 2011 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

reputation

plus there isnt many good NT’s or DT’s in the NFC…he wouldnt even be a starter in the AFC. I like Rat, but he has steadily declined in the last 2 years. He has 2 sacks this year, lowest since he came into the league.

The offseason can't come quick enough!!!

by Boyzfan94 on Dec 28, 2011 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

case IN point...

don’t use it if you don’t know what it means…

jus’ sayin.

by Damnsammit on Dec 27, 2011 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

The entire DL except for Ware needs to be redone or reshuffled. Ratliff to DE is an option they have to seriously talk about in the offseason. Everyone else on the DL is garbage.

The offseason can't come quick enough!!!

by Boyzfan94 on Dec 27, 2011 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

man this killed Tyron's Cumulative Grade

now stands @ 12.3……with an average of 0,82 per game…projected to get 13.12…..

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST

by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 27, 2011 9:44 AM CST reply actions  

The kid is aces in my book..

He really is better than I thought he would be his first season. I really hope they move him to LT and get Doug “I’m soft” Free to RT.

The offseason can't come quick enough!!!

by Boyzfan94 on Dec 27, 2011 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

We should win on Sunday......

RR is planning something wicked for Eli and Co as we speak……..I really look forward to the game…such a shame that we have to wait until Sunday night to play instead of 1pm……

by Rummob on Dec 27, 2011 9:46 AM CST reply actions  

What is this?

Hope? Excitement? Believing in your team? Dont you know you are supposed to have zero faith in this team. You are supposed to hate Jerry and demand JG’s head.

Enough sarcasim. Its refreshing to read your comment instead of all the doom and gloom.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Dec 27, 2011 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Sunday - new York

One PM – Lows in the mid-forties.

Eight PM – Lows in the mid-thirties.

Not happy about the cold weather for the Cowboys…

by Rome One on Dec 27, 2011 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

As long as there's no wind I'm not worried...

They played in Pittsburgh a few years back in almost sub zero weather and should have won that game.

by TheCowboyFan on Dec 27, 2011 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I remember that game

Outplayed Pittsburgh in every aspect of the game…except the scoreboard.

Sort of like they did last time they played a night game in New York’s new stadium…week one versus the Jets.

by Rome One on Dec 27, 2011 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

The fact that they lost the game wasn't my point. The weather was...

and it wasn’t a factor, even though it was thirty degrees colder than it will be on Sunday night.

by TheCowboyFan on Dec 27, 2011 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Cowboys recent history

Close games…close loses…against good teams….

The one big win was the Saints game in New Orleans…

A road win in a must win against a decent Giants team would be a nice feather in Garrett’s cap.

by Rome One on Dec 27, 2011 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm actually hoping there is wind....

Eli has shown in the past he struggles at home (even the new one) on windy winter days / nights. This defense will need all the help it can get.

by Road Warrior on Dec 27, 2011 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

McGee had no running back and no OL

Romo had both in week 8 and he still had a worse performance… this team just runs into a brick wall when they play Philly, anyone else they are in it. Romo only had 1 pass more than 13 yards, McGee never lit it up until 10 minutes left. He got into the redzone 2x Romo only got there once.

Romo is great in the 4th, McGee, even better.

by scraig on Dec 27, 2011 9:53 AM CST reply actions  

Lmao

All I can say is lmao

by Dynamicduo on Dec 27, 2011 9:58 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....................what?

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Dec 27, 2011 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Song Stylings by scraig...

Me and my Stephen McGee….ba-ba-ba-ba….ba-ba-ba…ba-ba-ba-da-da….Hey, Hey Stephen McGee!

by Rome One on Dec 27, 2011 10:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Now that must be sarcasm!

Or he’s just losing his mind… did anyone call 911 yet… seriously delusional!

RexP

by Rex Pfister on Dec 27, 2011 11:36 AM CST up reply actions  

I can't believe I'm going to reply to this but I can't stop myself.

Carter and Holley got us that TD.

Everything else, LOL.

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by fs65 on Dec 27, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

OMG, we better put the franchise tag on McGee before he gets a chance to walk away.

YDS / QB RATING
Romo(oct) 203/ 66.7
Vick 21/28(oct) 279/ 129.9

Vick(Dec) 293/ 107.9
S. McGee(Dec) 182 / 83.4

by sanhoo on Dec 27, 2011 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Lord Humongus - The Ghoul!

Lord Humongus referred to Jerry Jones as a narcissistic, decomposing ghoul.

I think “The Ghoul” is a great nickname for Jerry.

He’s like our Mr. Burns….“The Ghoul.”

Great job Humongus!

by Rome One on Dec 27, 2011 10:05 AM CST reply actions  

Happy to bring a smile to your face.

:-)

I will awaken my expectations for the Cowboys when Jerry Jones is in the ground.

by Lord Humungus on Dec 27, 2011 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

If you're a fan of Fallout...

I will awaken my expectations for the Cowboys when Jerry Jones is in the ground.

by Lord Humungus on Dec 27, 2011 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

WHY THIS GAME IS GREAT VS. G-MEN

The debate about Tony Romo has gone on and on and on….

Well, bruised hand, one game play-off for division crown, in oppenent’s stadium…

It’s put up or shut up for Romo.

You want to be a winner…come out on top.

You want to be the “almost kid” who never was….lose.

There are no excuses for Garrett, Romo, Ryan, Ware, Bryant, anybody…but especially Romo.

because the Cowboys-Giants game next Sunday Night, with everyone watching, is where a winner wins and a loser loses.

Harsh – but true.

So all the Romo-backers and Romo-naysayers…you’ll have a pretty definitive answer by about midnight.

Go Cowboys!

by Rome One on Dec 27, 2011 10:19 AM CST reply actions  

SO,,,

If Romo throws for 5 TDs … 400 yards and no INTs and runs one in too… and we still lose it’s his fault right?

RexP

by Rex Pfister on Dec 27, 2011 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

obviously I am going to pick us to win

but it really wouldn’t shock me to see us get blown out either, I truly hope that doesn’t happen because it just leaves a sour taste and the franchise would be gloomy all winter and spring
the one benefit of that happening is probably a fire sale and house cleaning, which I rather not go through
a tough loss in a close game would be much more ideal or of course the obvious win

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!

by Archie Barberio on Dec 27, 2011 10:28 AM CST reply actions  

13th pick in the draft

A real possibility and right now a 13th pick is nice consolation after watching the Saints and Packers this weekend.

by Rome One on Dec 27, 2011 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree

I want to win, but realistically we need good draft picks this year. I don’t think we are going to win it all, BUT we may win 1 playoff game if we get in so I still hope we win Sunday.

by Dynamicduo on Dec 27, 2011 10:37 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

we have to spend money in free agency too

look how inactive we have been in FA recently, its caught up to us
im not saying go on a spending spree, but you have to add some talent

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!

by Archie Barberio on Dec 27, 2011 10:49 AM CST up reply actions  

The Alan balls of the world

Do not belong on a Dallas Cowboys roster…for four years!!!

by Rome One on Dec 27, 2011 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

It comes down to our GM

He is the one who allows Alan Ball to stay with the Cowboys for so long

Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys

DeMarcus is EveryWare Man

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by Antonio S on Dec 27, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

It's not the GM

This is the coaches choice… They choose who’s on the field. Rob chose to keep him and now I’m sure he would rather have kept the rookie instead. Ball sucks and I’m sure will be cut at the end of the season or at least needs to be along with Tree and a couple others.

RexP

by Rex Pfister on Dec 27, 2011 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

he is too inconsistent

he looks good some games but then he gets torched
I think that experiment has come to an end unless he is going to be like our #5 CB and ST player
he plays far too much in the defense and is a liability

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!

by Archie Barberio on Dec 27, 2011 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

I think he is the #5 cb

Jenkins, Newman, Sacndrick, Walker, Ball.

Him playing too much has been based on a couple of things.

1. Injuries. When it wasn’t Scandrick, it was Newman, when it wasn’t newman it was Jenkins. Jeez.

2. Rob Ryans defense. RR plays every single player on the defensive roster. He has tons of packages.

Either way, Alan Ball is horrible. I’m not really sure why he made the team.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Dec 27, 2011 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

I think we may be looking at this the wrong way – Ball has been properly demoted. The problem is that everyone ahead of him keeps getting hurt. It seems like we need 6 competent cbs on the roster.

by foyesboys on Dec 27, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree, I'm still mad we didn't get Goldson in FA this year

That could have helped a lot at safety at a reasonable price. The problem stems back to us screwing up on Williams and it killing our salary cap. We are still trying to recover from salary issues.

by Dynamicduo on Dec 27, 2011 11:38 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

we would need some help to get #13

obviously I want us to win, I would rather make the playoffs after last year and obviously I think we are going to win, but in the back of my mind I think a blowout is possible

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!

by Archie Barberio on Dec 27, 2011 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Im already on record saying were going to get steam rolled...

I will gladly eat some crow if Im wrong, but too many signs pointing toward a loss.

The offseason can't come quick enough!!!

by Boyzfan94 on Dec 27, 2011 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

That was different though...

who would have thought that Oakland would have gone into Tampa and beat them in ‘08?. That was the ONLY reason the Eagles had life. Don’t forget that Wade was the coach then.

by TheCowboyFan on Dec 27, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

that was insane

what a perfect storm of crapola.

It was the only game I’ve ever watched where I knew we were boned before kickoff (around the time Dawkins was doing his pregame dance).

by foyesboys on Dec 27, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I think there is a HUGE difference between the Eagles and Giants

this is the same Giants team that just got soundly beaten by Washington at home two weeks ago.

The old Philly with Jim Johnson’s D would put a woopin on us in this game. But the Giants don’t bring that kind of nastiness. I’ll eat my words if I’m wrong, but I expect this game to be competitive as long as Romo is healthy

by foyesboys on Dec 27, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

also

Romo has a list of flat out ballsy games in the meadowlands.

2007 – the game winning deep throw to witten
2008 – the oline wasn’t great, but Romo made big plays time and time again and we won.
2009 – Romo plays some terrific football, one of the better games I’ve ever seen him play, but the whole darn team plays like crap. The quick pass to jacobs, who beats Spencer to the corner was the killer.
2010 – Romo doesn’t play, but the team goes out there in Garrett’s first game and whips NY.

4 of the last 5 in Dallas have been shootouts (exception was 2008). They haven’t ended well for us the last 3 years.

In NY, the defenses tend to have a bigger impact, and Romo’s brilliance shows through. This D just has a history of bringing its A game there. Garrett’s first playoff game will be at the site of what probably was the biggest win in his tenure.

I’m looking forward to this one.

by foyesboys on Dec 27, 2011 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

The deep ball to witten was 06

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Dec 27, 2011 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

its just disappointing

we lost too many games we should have won and its coming back to haunt us now
very disappointed its coming down to one game like this

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!

by Archie Barberio on Dec 27, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Meh, I pretty much saw this 2011 team as medocre.

It’s not the 8-8 record that bothers me, it’s the ‘yet another December swoon’ that is driving me nuts. Until this team learns to win durning crunch time…. they’ll continue having average seasons.

by Road Warrior on Dec 27, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

most people had this team as a 9-7 or 8-8 team so it shouldnt surprise anyone

I know everyone thought the Eagles would be the class of the division.

The offseason can't come quick enough!!!

by Boyzfan94 on Dec 27, 2011 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

honestly, I think they are

there are only so many plays in a football game, and when you make 5-10 absurdly dumb ones like the Eagles did this year, you end up with a couple more losses than you would otherwise.

by foyesboys on Dec 27, 2011 12:40 PM CST up reply actions  

If they played

Seattle, Buffalo, Washington, and Miami in December then they wouldn’t have had a december swoon.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Dec 27, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

the "december swoon" talk should wait a week

if we beat the Giants, then you’ve really got to stretch the truth to call it a december swoon.

And if we lose to the Giants, you’re still stretching the truth – it looks to me like this D has had a problem with the league’s better passing teams the last 2 months (and even the lesser ones for that matter)

by foyesboys on Dec 27, 2011 12:38 PM CST up reply actions  

You know I thought I would be disappointed

but its fairly evident we’re not on the Saints or Packers level. Would a 10-5 record really make you feel better about this team given recent performances? I’m fine with one game deciding it. I like it this way personally. If we lose, we’re probably going to have an unreasonably high draft pick for how well we played this year. We also will likely get a 3rd place schedule next year.

It is important to keep perspective about this season though. There are two losses due to untimely turnovers letting the opposition back in the game/take the lead. The defensive meltdown has made us ignore that a little, but its still a big part of 2011’s story.

by foyesboys on Dec 27, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

pot calling kettle haha clever fella u are tan

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by DarkKnight88 on Dec 28, 2011 3:07 AM CST up reply actions  

If the Giants win the tosss

And Manning tears down the field and goes up 7-0…It’s over.

The Giants have guys that “Want To” make plays down the stretch…

The Cowboys have guys who “lose balls in the lights” down the stretch.

Where’s our “Want To” guy?

Dez Bryant? – Where’s your 10 catch explosion game?

Felix Jones? – Where’s your 150 and two TD’s bust out?

Jason Witten? – When’s the last time you posted 100 yards with six-eight catches?

This team needs WNAT TO guys real bad for this game!

by Rome One on Dec 27, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

did the Giants "want to" make plays

when they were busy losing 23-10 to the redskins at home?

by foyesboys on Dec 27, 2011 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Cowboys beat Giants

A home playoff game would be good experience for the guys, but Dallas doesn’t have the firepower defensively to hang with Atlanta or Detroit.

The secondary is too soft and the pass rush is pretty ordinary.

Ryan and Stafford will both go 350+ against Rob Ryan’s boys.

by Rome One on Dec 27, 2011 10:35 AM CST reply actions  

If I recall...the last time they played the Lions...

they had a comfy lead and it wasn’t the secondary that gave the game away. I came away encouraged after the Eagles game a bit. I think RR will have them ready to play this game. His halftime speech supposedly wasn’t rated PG-13.

by TheCowboyFan on Dec 27, 2011 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

On the bright Side -

Sweeping the Cowboys probably set Andy Reid up to lead the Eagles again next year….fourteenth fruitless season….LOL

by Rome One on Dec 27, 2011 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Ohh come on

We can beat Atlanta or Detroit!!!! There r only 2 teams in the NFC I think we trully can’t beat and that’s the saints and packers. We showed we could hang with Detroit earlier in the yr.

by Dynamicduo on Dec 27, 2011 10:39 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Earlier in the year

Besides a 31-15 thumping of the Bucs I have seen a lot of inconsistant play from the Boys lately…

Loss to Arizona was inexcusable.

by Rome One on Dec 27, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree we are way too inconsistent

But if (big if) we come out and play as we are capable both of those games are winnable.

by Dynamicduo on Dec 27, 2011 11:08 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Arizona

An overtime loss to Arizona after a missed FG attempt with time expiring to win the game. I know everyone wants to think that every team is just going to roll over and play dead for you but Arizona still had a chance and they played well. We also have a history of not doing well in that stadium. Along with that we should have won the game baring two missed field goals late. We won the games we needed and lost some we had a good chance of winning. We are one of 14 teams that have a chance to make the playoffs period. I don’t ever give up… on my team and to me that sounds exactly like what’s going on here Rome. If the Cowboys go in and play well on both sides of the ball they can beat anyone. I don’t care who it is.

RexP

by Rex Pfister on Dec 27, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Arizona is a good team

they are playing everyone tough. They should’ve beat the Giants (strange ruling in that game) and they beat the Eagles. They beat the 49ers two weeks ago. I’d take their D over ours without thinking twice right now.

We had a tight game, and in a tight game an individual mistake gets amplified out of proportion. The reality is that you can’t make all the right calls in those games all the time.

by foyesboys on Dec 27, 2011 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Detroit seems to be a slow starting team and Atlanta is very inconsistent.

Both winnable games, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves. We gotta win Sunday night.

by I'maNeverNude on Dec 27, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

this defense needs upgrades

our pass defense has been awful, it’s a real problem and I dont know how they are going to fix it
Newman started off good because he was fresh, once he got a few games in he fell off
we never should come into this season with him as a starting cornerback

we need CB’s who have speed and can cover, Newman is playing like 15-20 yards off almost every play

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!

by Archie Barberio on Dec 27, 2011 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

We HAVE to get a OLB/DE and CB early in the draft

And we really need a safety too. The problem is idk if a 3rd round safety will be ready to play next year.

by Dynamicduo on Dec 27, 2011 11:13 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

What makes you think

Atlanta or Detroit’s defense is so much better than ours and I’d take our offense over there’s anyday. I do believe that we match IP well with all the nfc playoff teams this year if we can just get in it might be a good run for us.

by Sado44 on Dec 27, 2011 4:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Dallas beats the Giants....Dallas beats Detroit at home.... Dallas beats SF in SF....

and then…… and then…… and then….
Along came Jones
Tall thin Jones
Slow walking Jones
Slow Talking Jones
Along came long, lean, lanky Jones.

IF you're gonna act like a turd, go lay in the yard...........Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Dec 27, 2011 10:45 AM CST reply actions  

Depends on who wins the other playoff game

GB will play the lowest remaining seed. We would be th #4 see. If the #6 seed beats the #3 seed then they would play the pack.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Dec 27, 2011 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Look - I want the Cowboys to win too

But they have to want to win…and right now…I feel uneasy to put it mildly about the night game in New York.

Victor Cruz or Brandon Jacobs will make a play and man up…and I am wondering who on the Cowboys is up to the task of getting back in their faces and pushing back.

The Eagles kicked the Boys around like little wimps in Philly…then came in the Big “D” while the Jets were still in the NY-NY game…and drove straight down the field on the defense…7-0.

What was that?

Where was the pride?

Has Jason garrett just designated the Eagles “The Cowboys daddy?”

It was BS and we’re supposed to take pride in only getting beat 20-7 because Jason Avant fumbled a ball at the inch line and Bruce Carter blocked a punt?

That’s the kind of attitude I’m worried about.

by Rome One on Dec 27, 2011 10:46 AM CST reply actions  

Newman is going to be exposed this game

just throw at him, its beginning to be too easy to target him
Jenkins is banged up, the kid hasn’t been healthy all season
Sensabaugh has no timing or coordination, I would throw at him too
I cannot believe we rewarded him with a contract, its like okay your mediocre so lets reward it in the middle of the season
he has been awful the last few games

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!

by Archie Barberio on Dec 27, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Chia is correct in his assessment

The Giants have NO FEAR of the Cowboys…

being down 12 with five minutes to go in Dallas and pulling it out will give a team supreme confidence.

by Rome One on Dec 27, 2011 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

there should be no fear from their standpoint

they are starting to run the ball they have weapons all over and they have more talent on their defense, they can get pressure we can’t
its that simple
plus Phillips and Rolle are better safeties in a safety driven league
Corey Webster is real good too
we have no answer for that front 4

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!

by Archie Barberio on Dec 27, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I doubt Dallas fears the Giants. A 1-7 Dallas team went into the Meadowlands last year...

and ran all over the Giants. If the defense plays up to their capabilities I see a huge win!

by TheCowboyFan on Dec 27, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Cowboys actually have played better in NY

than in Cowboys Stadium against the GMen in recent years.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 28, 2011 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

really, didn't the boys lose in NY in 08 & 09?

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by DarkKnight88 on Dec 28, 2011 10:10 PM CST up reply actions  

So you sir need to take a nap.

I understand the let down having a qb with less exp. Than say me playing against Philly’s defense but come on man we win that game if Romo plays I don’t care watch the tape and see all the wide open targets even with short passes Romo would have been able to beat that pass rush with the targets I seen open. It is gonna be OK man. The chances of this team right now getting sweeped from two east rivals is slim to none man. RR I promise will have a better plan for this game just like his brother did against Eli in the first half. If we can do half of what Rex did we win this game. Everykne is fixated on our defense and forget that’s we have ally of fire power on offense. Weather you like to admit it or not this game is not over yet.

by Sado44 on Dec 27, 2011 5:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Jason Garrett's one goal

Put up 31 points.

It’s a lot…but 31 points should be the magic number Garrett has taped above his bed.

That’s 7.3 points per quarter.

31!

by Rome One on Dec 27, 2011 10:55 AM CST reply actions  

With our defense I think we need 38 at least

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by Antonio S on Dec 27, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

this defense needs to make plays

Eli is due for a bad game, if this defense steps up and we can score 30 points we should win, should win is the problem
I have no confidence in this defense, especially late in games because teams just air us out

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!

by Archie Barberio on Dec 27, 2011 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

If the offense puts up 31

And the Cowboys lose…

Then the Ghoul, his Son, Jason, and Rob know what they need to do in the draft.

by Rome One on Dec 27, 2011 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

If you take away that 99 yard pass to Cruz

Eli looked horrible against the Jets. Hopefully Rob can pick up a tip or 2 from Rex.

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by Antonio S on Dec 27, 2011 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Eli was 9 of 24 against the jets

They didn’t exactly impress me with that game. Sanchez was god awful.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Dec 27, 2011 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

33.3 comp% - 61.5 passer rating - 1-td/1-int...9 for 27, 225 yards. Not going to beat Dallas with these stats.

Take out the 99 yd pass play and he’s 8 for 26, 126 yards.

IF you're gonna act like a turd, go lay in the yard...........Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Dec 27, 2011 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Newman is awful..cant catch an INT to save his life!

Looking foward to that cut in the offseason.

The offseason can't come quick enough!!!

by Boyzfan94 on Dec 27, 2011 10:56 AM CST reply actions  

he has to go its time

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
RDD=REAL DEAL DEMARCO!!!!

by Archie Barberio on Dec 27, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

i agree that its time for him to go.

No way he returns. Age, production, and contract will not allow it.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Dec 27, 2011 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

He's no longer an NFL corner

If he has an injury he’s hiding, so what? He always has an injury.

I will awaken my expectations for the Cowboys when Jerry Jones is in the ground.

by Lord Humungus on Dec 27, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Honestly

I think it is time for him to retire. He’s a couple steps off and playing way to loose. Yes, he’s experienced and probably could help teach some of the new CBs we draft so I would keep him until the final cut next year and then let him retire gracefully.

RexP

by Rex Pfister on Dec 27, 2011 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Make the Giants punt seven times

If Dallas gets turnovers…great…but the team is not a great ball taking machine…

Punts are fine….just get seven…at the very least.

by Rome One on Dec 27, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Makes You Wonder What The Cowboys Locker Room Mood Is...

“One win from the playoffs” or “One beat down away from vacation”?

I will awaken my expectations for the Cowboys when Jerry Jones is in the ground.

by Lord Humungus on Dec 27, 2011 11:19 AM CST reply actions  

I think its likely more about revenge and pride

this matchup has had a road team flavor to it – each side seems to feed off shutting up the opposing team’s crowd

by foyesboys on Dec 27, 2011 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

If the Cowboys cared about revenge and pride they would have put in some effort last week.

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by fs65 on Dec 27, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

This seems to be the attitude around here.
"One beat down away from vacation"

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Dec 27, 2011 11:28 AM CST reply actions  

Theres not much to say.

We just saw this team 3 weeks ago. Both teams laid an egg and light up another game. Romos hand is the only thing I care about oh and LG.

Until then cya Sunday night in the victory thread?!

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"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Dec 27, 2011 11:41 AM CST reply actions  

ok I will admit I only half watched the game because it became apparent early we weren't going to score

but a -15.6 grade for the OL???Thats absurd. This makes me strongly question PFF’s grades. I felt like McGee was making some wrong moves in the pocket that made things look worse than they were – Romo can generally step up and avoid edge rushers, and he does a decent job with interior rushers too as long as there is only one of them.

by foyesboys on Dec 27, 2011 12:25 PM CST reply actions  

Free agent acquisition: Desean Jackson

I can excuse not getting any other offense sided FA acquisition if this happened. I can also excuse shuffling the same inept OL around, hoping for a better result. I don’t care what type of guy Desean is. He can piss into Garrett’s coffee every morning for all I care. He’s a proven play maker we need on this team. If the Cowboys are ever going to get passed the Eagles,they need to put on their big boy pants and go out and get Desean.

Either Robinson or Miles will be out for a lengthy amount of time next year, Desean is the first, second,and third back up plan.

by sanhoo on Dec 27, 2011 4:08 PM CST reply actions  

As long as Romo can throw the ball, I like our chances Sunday

We can outscore the GMen with a healthy Romo, no question in my mind whatsoever.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Dec 27, 2011 4:38 PM CST reply actions  

I am with you on this one

I just hope the oline does not totally fall apart in this game. Give him some time and good things will happen.

by thepainster on Dec 27, 2011 5:44 PM CST reply actions  

IT SUCKS THAT THE BEST TEAM WONT BE REPRASENTING THE NFC EAST.

With an off-season the Eagles would easily win the division (NOT JUST SAYING THIS BECAUSE OF THE 54-7 put up on the boys in 2 games)
The Eagles made the most changes on there roster and in the coaching ranks in the whole NFL. With no real off season to gel, the teams that made the least amount of changes have been doing the best (except the 49ers who got a coach that can actually coach).
COUNT YOUR BLESSINGS (and stars, rings, whatever else you shit kickers like to count over there) AND BE HAPPY.

by ProfileEnt on Dec 27, 2011 7:34 PM CST reply actions  

Awww, so thats your excuse, no offseason?

Poor baby, I don’t remember anyone saying that in September. Maybe you shouldn’t have made so many changes then.

Oh and for the record, Broncos, Bengals, Cowboys, Raiders, Titans are all teams that made major changes and still fighting for a playoff spot. So suck it.

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Dec 28, 2011 6:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Considering Vick tore our secondary a new asshole not only once, but twice this year, I wouldn’t say he is a scrub. Can’t be any worse than that choker QB we have on our team. Hopefully we draft a new QB this year.

by Brandon10 on Dec 28, 2011 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

haha this guy

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Dec 28, 2011 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

idk. Maybe we should move up and draft RGIII. Trade Romo for a 7th round pick or whatever he is worth.

by Brandon10 on Dec 28, 2011 8:21 PM CST up reply actions  

GO GIANTS!!!!!!!!!!!

ROMO WILL CHOKE, remember i said it FIRST!

by ProfileEnt on Dec 27, 2011 7:35 PM CST reply actions  

GO Cowboys!! Profilehhh, or whatever, just remember,

Nobody here gives a Rats Patoot what you may think!! Which you will have plenty of time to do along with the Iggles, maybe Vick will let you watch a playoff game with him, not from the bench mind you, but from a couch!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Whew, Dream Team, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, GASP,HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Willy H on Dec 27, 2011 8:13 PM CST reply actions  

Oh, Btw Profileehh, I know I am not the first to say it, but,

THE IGIRLS ARE NOT IN THE PLAYOFFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Maybe Vick can “Kill” time in the offseason by taking up his old hobby, you know, the dog killing thing!!

by Willy H on Dec 27, 2011 8:18 PM CST reply actions  

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