Cowboys DeMarcus Ware And Jay Ratliff Voted To Pro Bowl
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 28, 2011 3:00 AM CST
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PrintThe NFL announced the full AFC and NFC Pro Bowl rosters late last night. You can check out the full rosters here.
For the Cowboys, DeMarcus Ware and Jay Ratliff were named as starters. Ware had been the only Cowboy who had already taken the lead at his position in this year's fan voting for the Pro Bowl. Coupled with his stellar on-field performance, his nomination as a starter does not come as a surprise.
"It's a great honor to be selected to play in the Pro Bowl," Ware said in a press release. "It shows that all the work through the offseason and season pays off. It's special because you are selected by the fans, your peers and coaches around the league. I am excited to represent the Dallas Cowboys and the entire NFL in the game. Since my rookie season, I always strived on working hard, being consistent and playing at a high level, and it really means something on a personal level to be rewarded."
Jay Ratliff on the other hand did not even make the top five at his position in the fan voting. The Pro Bowl teams are selected based on the consensus votes of fans, players and coaches, each of which counts one-third toward determining the final 43-man rosters for the Pro Bowl. The fact that Ratliff is now the starter at his position means he got a significant chunk of the players and coaches votes that allowed him to leapfrog the likes of Detroit's Ndamukong Suh, Philly's Cullen Jenkins and Green Bay's B.J. Raji, who had all been ahead of him in the fan vote.
In the NFC East, the Giants have two Pro Bowlers in Eli Manning and Jason Pierre-Paul, the Eagles have three nominees in Jason Babin, Jason Peters and LeSean Mccoy and the Redskins don't have a Pro Bowl player this year, joining Buffalo, Tennessee and St. Louis as the only teams without a Pro Bowler this season.
There is still a chance that more Cowboys could be added to the Pro Bowl roster as alternates. The NFL does not publicize the list of alternates, but the league does inform each team about which players will serve as alternates when some of the nominated players decline to attend, are injured or are playing in the Super Bowl.
The Cowboys typically do not reveal which of their players are on the alternate list, but it's likely that the list would contain some or all of the following: Tony Romo, Jason Witten, Tyron Smith, Sean Lee and Dan Bailey.
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So, our sub-par defense garners two pro bowl starters
And our excellent offense…none. The pro bowl is truly a popularity contest. Fan voting should be removed.
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by CotySaxman on Dec 28, 2011 3:16 AM CST via mobile reply actions
No offense
but who on the Cowboys offense do you think deserves to go over a player that’s on the roster already?
imo...
the only one I could make a case for is Witten over Gonzalez. And possibly Romo over Manning is debatable. But Stafford is right there too and would probably get the nod over Romo.
Except for the media's preoccupation over Eli
Romo should have been ahead of him. Eli’s having a very good season, but Romo’s is still better. Oh well.
I also think Tyron over Peters. Murray had a ral shot, but that of course ended a couple of weeks ago.
Don't believe everything you think.
agreed.....
i mean hey ! no one has thaat dumb look 24/7 like Eli ! hahahahaha just another reason Romo is better , he’s camera friendly hahahhaaaa
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Stafford has almost 700 more yards and 7 more td's
Don’t get me wrong, I take Romo all day, but Staffords #’s are better this year.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Dec 28, 2011 8:58 AM CST up reply actions
but he has 5 more INTs which should count against Stafford
and in addition Romo has a higher completion percentage as well as higher yards per attempt
In Romo we Trust
Not even debatable.... C'mon now
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No more score predictions...
Agreed
Witten would normally get the nod but has had a bit of an off year in the trenches. Eli got the votes because he is in NY. I think Romo should have been ranked higher than Eli, but Stafford no question is number 2 behind Rogers.
MacGruber!
Hey everybody look!
Terry thinks Romo is the SUPERAWESOMEST GUY EVER!
betcha never saw that comin…
MacGruber!
ahha!!
Leave it for Terry to give us all migranes defending his boy.
I agree, Romo shouldve gotten the nod over Eli, but Eli had more passing yards. Giving away at least two games I can think of didn’t help Romo’s case either.
The offseason can't come quick enough!!!
Only Rodgers and Brees should be ahead of Romo
Since Eli made it, the pro bowl is a sham!!!
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Eli's fourth quarter play has been the best this year in the NFL
Record setting, in fact. I think that is what is sticking in the players and coaches minds when they voted for QB in the NFC. In the fan voting, Eli was fourth at one point, I don’t know if he went up or down at all, but I think he got in with the players and coaches vote.
Add in Romo gift wrapping wins in the fourth quarter for NYJ and DET, this is what people remember when they vote, IMO
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
Hell lets throw in
Eli’s comeback @ DAL where Romo could have ended it if he hit Austin on that third down. Alot of players probably watched that Sunday night game. This is the kind of stuff that influences people when the stats are arguably comparable.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
so you're basically saying Eli sucked in the first three quarters of each game
and got voted in because of his performances in the 4th quarter?? BS, that’s the dumbest reason I ever heard. Real pro bowlers play well throughout the entire game and having two bad games versus 12 really great games shouldn’t count against Romo, thats ridiculous as well.
In Romo we Trust
Crap
How did I forget Breesus?
I agree Eli’s inclusion is a bit tarded. But I don’t think you can overlook Stafford. If he were in the AFC he would be tied with Brady for the highest number of touchdowns (36). Tony has had a great year but has been instrumental in a couple very public meltdowns.
Tony is a really good to great Qb and has certainly been central in winning more games than losing. I just don’t think you can ignore the brain farts earlier in the year.
MacGruber!
wrong...gotta look at the overall body of work
and 12 brilliant games definitely overrides 2 bad ones in one season
In Romo we Trust
Ok
Overall body of work-
Stafford has Romo in Yards by {623(!)} and Touchdowns by {7}
While Romo has thrown less Interceptions {5}.
To add- Even if you were to say they were equal statistically (not a given), the Lions won more games. I will even suggest Stafford was a bigger factor in the Lion’s wins than Romo is in the Cowboy’s wins. Though both are certainly important.
And we won’t talk about how they played when the Lions and Cowboys went head to head.
I am sorry but the only argument for Tony getting the nod over Stafford is Qb rating. It is not an insignificant argument… But even you have to admit Qb rating isn’t the end all/be all.
MacGruber!
Romo has a higher completion percentage and yards per attempt
and yes qb rating is much more important than wins and losses because it evaluates a qbs performance not a team performance.
Romo has played better than Stafford this season….thats simply a fact.
In Romo we Trust
well now Romo can just go out and beat all the probowl QB in the playoffs and have the last .... laugh !
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Wow sorry posting fail...
The full post was-
Crap how did I forget Breesus?
I agree including Eli is pretty tarded but I don’t think you can ignore Stafford. If he were in the AFC he would be tied with Brady for most touchdowns (36). Also- 300 yrds and 2.3 tds per game isn’t bad.
And well Tony has been instrumental in a couple very public losses this year. He has been central in winning a lot of games mind you and has had a great year but unfortunately he isn’t the only Qb in the stacked NFC.
MacGruber!
Its close on Witten
Gonzo and Witten are about the same in yards, but Gonzo has 2 more TDs than Witten. Can’t really blame that one
The offseason can't come quick enough!!!
Gonzo is no slouch
and a future HOF TE. Like I said they are both deserving, but in this case Gonzo got the nod for whatever reason. The Pro Bowl is a joke anyway so why feed into it. More than likely we will see 4th and 5th alternates playing the game.
The offseason can't come quick enough!!!
Correct. Witten and Romo should have both been in.
Witten is basically tied with Gonzales in receiving stats and is a significantly better blocker (Gonzo shouldn’t have been picked last year either), and Romo beats Manning, Stafford, and Newton in almost every category.
The Pro Bowl has become a farce. They should at least restrict fan voting to one per IP address. Not only do they not do that, but the NFL encourages fans to vote as often as they can for their “favorite” players, not the best ones. That alone robs the Pro Bowl of any meaning.
It’s not even really a popularity contest, since a dozen losers in Buffalo or some place can work in shifts and vote thousands of times a day. Goodell is ruining the NFL.
Tyron Smith. Tony Romo.
Wonder how many would have made it if they tossed out the fan vote.
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by CotySaxman on Dec 28, 2011 3:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Guess I'll converse with myself...
They ought to publicize the results of all the phases of the voting, and list all who received votes. I’d prefer to see the best players honored, rather than whoever is most popular at the time.
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by CotySaxman on Dec 28, 2011 3:20 AM CST via mobile reply actions
But it is not just who is the most popular.
That is a factor but ONLY a third of it or else Tebow would be starting for the AFC.
"...has been timed at 4.39 in the 40-yard dash, and owning a 40.5-inch vertical jump and a 440-pound max bench press, 605-pound squat and a power-clean of 374 pounds." Could you imagine what it would be like to have somone like this on your team???? Oh we do??? His name is Bruce Carter??? Hmmmm....... interesting.
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Dec 28, 2011 4:32 PM CST up reply actions
Ah! Error!
“alterante” in the last paragraph.
…
Anyone there?
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by CotySaxman on Dec 28, 2011 3:22 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Another, after the block quote...
Selection is made based ON the…
I need to go to sleep.
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by CotySaxman on Dec 28, 2011 3:24 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Note the lack of self-replies :)
I was baiting OCC by pointing out errors, however, he must be on vacation. Errors still aren’t fixed.
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by CotySaxman on Dec 28, 2011 3:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Oh, I thought those were just the ramblings of a sleep deprived programmer …
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 28, 2011 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
I'm taking a vacation from vacation.
Drove back to my apartment last night to get a few days of peace before returning for the other holiday. 2.5 hour drive, got home after midnight, and just couldn’t sleep.
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by CotySaxman on Dec 28, 2011 9:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He has been very good this year.
I know that isn’t a popular view by some, but if you watch closely then he is doing a good job.
Next to Ware, Ratliff is the only starter on the DLine to consistently get a solid push
by Aaron Burtram on Dec 28, 2011 4:42 AM CST up reply actions
It's sad about Buffalo
They had Fred Jackson who was tearing it up, end up injured and lost him for the season and also lost his chance at a probowl vote
not to mention
submarining many a FF season, including mine.
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
him and eric wood would have been automatic locks
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 28, 2011 4:54 PM CST up reply actions
First Post!
Hey all! If anybody is here. Been reading for awhile now, so decided just to make an account.
by BrickTop on Dec 28, 2011 5:13 AM CST via mobile reply actions 12 recs
Good morning, and welcome to the blog
Here’s a rec to get you started properly.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 28, 2011 5:58 AM CST up reply actions
Thanx OCC
Ha, im not sure how to “rec” comments, but i’m sure i’ll figure it out. Most people here seem pretty cool. Looking forward to talkin’ football.
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The button beside reply "actions" clicking that gives you two options, flag and rec.
Yeah the probowl post won’t get much attention but be sure to jump in all the other threads
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by thebigham on Dec 28, 2011 6:19 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Alrightttt
Thanx man!
Sunday can’t come fast enough.
by BrickTop on Dec 28, 2011 6:29 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
tell me about it.
There really isn’t much to talk about since we just saw this team 3 weeks ago.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Hopefully there will still be football to talk about after Sunday
but if not, this is a GREAT place to talk about the draft.
Don't believe everything you think.
Welcome home, BrickTop
Relax, you’re safe here, surrounded by like-minded fanatics.
Wins are the best medicine...the ultimate cure-all.
You can't rec with the mobile site.
But you’ll see the button if you get on a computer.
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by CotySaxman on Dec 28, 2011 3:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Welcome BrickTop!
Newbie REEEECCCCCCC!!
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welcome BT
I was a newbie a while back too. This is oodles of fun although it should come with a warning about your productivity at work decreasing exponentially which could reflect in your annual review process. Just sayin’
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
Welcome aboard
About two and a half years ago, I was a newbie like you. Now, I gots my name on the staff roster here! You never know where things can lead.
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Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
reminds me of ol' honest Abe's story.
IF you're gonna act like a turd, go lay in the yard...........Lock n Load
what's the commitment
in hours you spend writing, researching, etc. for BtB per week?
You do do this as a part time, volunteer thing don’t you?
forgive that I said DoDo above (my normal conversations tend to steer toward the gutter too)
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
It's from two to four hours a day on average, I'd say, and normally six days a week.
Those are my hours. I often suspect OCC puts in about 14 hours a day, but then he has parallel processing capabilities mere mortals lack.
Yeah, it’s all volunteer. Fortunately for me, I have a public service job that allows a lot of time most days at work (someone has to be here whether there is something to do at that time or not). I work 2 pm to 10 pm, and after 6, there is usually some dead time to get my latest post. If not, I go home and finish it up.
But this is honest to gosh the most fun thing I have done in my life, outside of activities normally involving disrobing.
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Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
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Thanks Tom
There was a time I wanted to take a whack at breaking into freelance writing. Alas I need to make a real living so until I have more time to devote to that endeavor (i.e. when the kids are off to college), I’ll have to live vicariously through you guys.
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welcome aboard........ Bricktop
top o the day to ya…… breakfast will be served at 8ish……. CHIA will be rustling up a appitizer and OCC will crunch down even the most difficult numbers, and Tom will lay down your percentage of success today,
oh and doo enjoy your self, ya hear ? and do come back , we will keep the light on ! )
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I already know who one the the tackles for the 2012/2013 Probowl will be
Anyone wanna take a guess?
Jeremy Parnell
What do I win?
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Here's my take on Romo not making it I put up for SBN last night
OK I’ll Say It… Tony Romo Got Snubbed For NFC Pro Bowl
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I still think it will make a victory all that more sweet
If Dallas wins and Romo outperforms Eli on Sunday. Eli will get to go to Hawaii, but will have to watch the better QB in the playoffs the following week. Sounds like poetic justice to me, if it happens.
I agree- and as I wrote at the end of that piece, I hope it’s a huge shoulder chip Tony takes with him into the game.
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We have to win this game.
Tom Coughlin said yesterday that if you would have told him at the beginning of the season that his entire year would come down to two games against that Cowboys, he would take that all day long. Really Tom? Are you really that confident?
We have the goal of winning Super Bowls. If you don't have that, find the door.
Jason Garrett
I say bring it on G-girls
Though I dont think Coughlin meant to be disrespectful.
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Its pretty pathetic
How the media portrays Romo as being some scrub of a quarterback because he isn’t “clutch” and all this other nonsense. He’s top 5 QB in the NFL. The average fan, and even Dallas fans underrate him.
by BrickTop on Dec 28, 2011 8:46 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
100% agree with this post.
That was a great analysis. Basically, Romo rates ahead of Eli in every category except yardage. I’d take Romo over Manning any day of the week. My boss is a Cowboy “fan” but a 100% Romo hater. He comes in every Monday spewing his garbage about how the Cowboys need to cut Romo. I’ve argued with him until I’m blue in the face, but he won’t budge. What more do people want? Ok, so Romo made a couple of mistakes at the beginning of the year, but so has every other QB in the NFL at some point this season. You’d think that “fans” would be tickled pink that they had a top 5 QB who hides the ugly parts of this team with his stellar play that gives us a chance late in games even when we’re outplayed in other aspects of the game.
Wins are the best medicine...the ultimate cure-all.
Actually I think Eli and Romo are about the same
The Main diffrence is Eli has elevated his game in big spots and won, Romo not so much. Perfect example is last time we played you guys, Romo misses a wide open WR to clinch the game, Eli takes the ball drives it down for the winning points.
Not a big gap between the two, but Romo needs to shake the choker rep he has earned.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 28, 2011 9:00 AM CST up reply actions
Romo is far from a choker
Romo needs to shake the choker rep he has earned.
That couldn’t be further from the truth. That pass that you speak of the last time they played was on the money. Perfect pass. Even Miles Austin admitted that he screwed that up.
Unless you are a Cowboy fan then of course you are going to have that opiniion because that is the opinion that the media forces upon you. Romo has led Dallas to a ton of 4th comebacks in his career. Don’t let the perception fool you. Romo did his job when the last time we played. He led the team into field goal position on the last drive that should have put the game into overtime.
I dont take anything away from Eli. In fact, I have never really understood why he catches so much flack. Other than just for looking dumb.To me, the Giants would be crap without him just as the Cowboys would be crap without Romo.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Dec 28, 2011 9:09 AM CST up reply actions
I agree as well
I am old enough to have seen Staubachs whole career. IMHO, the only thing that Tony can do to shake this false image is to win a superbowl, which is a shame. But that is the benchmark for a Dallas QB, even though it is a team game.
Tony Romo is more than good enough to take us to the Big Dance and win it all.
But are the other 52 guys, not to mention the coaching staff, front office, etc., that good as well?
I blame the media for that perception
Sure Tony isn’t perfect but there have been plenty of times when the defense or the offensive line has let Tony and the Cowboys down.
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Tony is usually money when we "got" to have a late drive.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Dec 28, 2011 9:20 AM CST up reply actions
I really need to start previewing my comments before I post them
I am completely butchering the english language as of late. JEEZ
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Dec 28, 2011 9:19 AM CST up reply actions
No worries, Paul
We all know you’re a fine, upstanding, literate, educated gentleman. We all have “Funky Finger Wednesdays” sometimes. It’s all good.
Wins are the best medicine...the ultimate cure-all.
hahahhah it's a;; good......
i rather enjoy doing so since it’s the one thing i do … consistantly hahahahahaaa
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Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
Agree with Tarheel Paul
I think Eli and Romo are both good, but Romo is better. It is the media that pins the ‘choke’ label on Romo, as well as that ridiculous ‘December’ thing. Unfortunately for him it started with the field goal hold against Seattle, which is a situation most other QBs would not be in. From there, the media has ran with it and charged all the key losses to Romo. In Romo’s case, they don’t factor in the dropped catches, wrong routes, poor offensive line play, poor defense and lousy coaching. In Eli’s case, he has a super bowl win, so he gets a bigger break from the media, although he had the opposite luck, with a WR catching a pass with his head on the final drive in the SB.
always great
statements, Paul. I agree entirely. Especially the part about Eli looking dumb.
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
Since 2006 no one is better in the 4th Qtr than Romo..
You guys keep pumped what ESPN shoves down your throats
Romo isn’t clutch narrative has been debunked a hundred times.
Eli 18 comeback drives
Romo 13 comeback drives
Eli has 41 more starts than Romo.
Since 2006 no quarterback — not Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers, has a better fourth-quarter passer rating than Romo (100.0). Only Brees (39) and Philip Rivers (39) have more fourth-quarter touchdown passes than Romo’s 34. Only Brees (5,905), Manning (4,886) and Rivers (4,751) have more fourth-quarter yards than Romo’s 4,712.
Romo has thrown 17 fourth-quarter interceptions, which is fewer than Brees (25), Brett Favre (25), Eli Manning (27), Jay Cutler (22) and Ben Roethlisberger (22) among others. Brady has just 11. Peyton Manning has 13.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Romo is our guy and he has very impressive stats..
Unfortunately this isn’t baseball where numbers matter. Not many people can tell you how many yards Joe Montana had or Emmitt Smith’s rushing TDs. They can tell you how many Super Bowls they won. Until Romo wins the big game, that’s all people care about when it comes to football. Especially for a quarterback. It’s unfair, but that’s how it is..
by dcsince77 on Dec 28, 2011 9:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
players don't win SBs, teams do
Players can only control what they do on an individual basis, qbs can’t control how well the defense or ST play.
If these “people” don’t understand such a simple concept….they’re the ones that have problems, not the players.
In Romo we Trust
But the teams come into the game with the same record.
Seems Eli didn’t elevate that many times more than Tony.
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Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
What's a "top 5 QB"?
I’d like to know.
I only show up to mock other posters, jeer at the writing here, and make strange complaints about internet culture.
For overall rankings
Romo is #8. #6 in the NFC according to NFL.com.
The offseason can't come quick enough!!!
if you sort
that list by the last column on the right, Rate, Romo is #4.
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
Man
Kordell Stewart is unbelievable. Hah
by BrickTop on Dec 28, 2011 8:52 AM CST via mobile reply actions
No doubt
I don’t mind Doug Gottlieb, but I can’t wait for the Mikes to come back from vacation.
Wins are the best medicine...the ultimate cure-all.
Anyone who thinks Eli is better than Stafford or Romo doesn't know football
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
I think he's better than Stafford
and sorry Lissyyyy, but I do know my football. I think he and Romo are on equal footing. For my money I take Romo over Eli simply because of his mobility.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Dec 28, 2011 9:24 AM CST up reply actions
I think everyone should start posting their top 10 QBs who are currently playing
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Easy
1. Rodgers
2. Brees
3. Brady
4. Romo
5. Roethlisberger
6. Manning
7. Rivers
8. Stafford
9. Ryan
10. Newton
Wins are the best medicine...the ultimate cure-all.
He's the real deal, I can see the Bengals winning a SB or two with him.
IF you're gonna act like a turd, go lay in the yard...........Lock n Load
oh my
please fasten your seatbelts, all of humanity.
The secret phrase (Bengals winning a SB) has just been spoken and the earth will spin off its axis in 3….2….1….
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
They are primed to take over that division.
Both steelers and ravens Ds are very old. Though the Steelers have transitioned nicely to a passing offense, can’t say the same for the Ravens.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
tbh
I agree with you guys that the Bengals are improving. I just never thought that they’d be mentioned in the same breath with SB again in my lifetime . I’ve still got much more to go so we’ll see if this is Hale Bopp infrequent or not.
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
If the Boys don't win the SB, I don't care who does.
As long as it’s not Philly.
IF you're gonna act like a turd, go lay in the yard...........Lock n Load
or the Steelers.
that’s my take anyway.
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
Ok, replace with Vick.
Rinse and repeat as needed. I would’ve put Fitzgerald on there at the beginning of the season, but he’s fallen off the face of the earth.
Wins are the best medicine...the ultimate cure-all.
ya know....
I was going to put the kid on my list just to make ya’lls heads explode but I didn’t want the mess on my monitor. I am a HUGE fan of Tebow the person but Ive still got questions about his passing, reads, etc. As a man, he’s DA MAN! as a QB? meh, needs more time.
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
Nope.
I love Tebow and I’ll be interested to see how he does with a full offseason with the scheme tailored to his style of play. Also, he needs some serious coaching on passing accuracy.
Wins are the best medicine...the ultimate cure-all.
ummm
I agree that Tebow will benefit from a full offseason program tailored to the dual threat QB’s skillset. As far as needing coaching on passing accuracy, I would disagree with that. I don’t think you can be the SEC’s career leader in passing efficiency without being accurate. There are things at the NFL level that affect his passing. It’s not as if he suddenly forgot how to throw the football. When I watch him, I see him throwing late as the biggest issue for him and his accuracy/efficiency. In the NFL, the windows, throwing lanes, opportunities are all much smaller than they are at the collegiate level.
The game has just not slowed down for him yet but I see times when his throws are on time and in tight windows. So it’s a consistency thing now which I think has more to do with him struggling with reading and anticipating cover ages and defensive tendencies. That can only improve with time under center.
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
Romo had a 72.4 QBR and a 102.2 QB rating
compare that to Eli’s 59.2 QBR (which is outside the top ten) and 90.3 QB rating (which ranks 9th). Romo also has a higher DYAR than Eli.
I know football fans don’t like statistics for whatever reason, but when one QB is beating another QB in every major stat that assesses the QB position, then you can’t just ignore it.
Eli’s year as a QB is pretty comparable to what Phillip Rivers did this year, and the consensus is that Rivers is having a bad year. The only reason why people think Eli is so good is because his last name is Manning.
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
Dont forget turnovers
Romo 11 total (9 INTs 2 lost fumbles)
Manning 20 total (16 INTs 4 lost fumbles)
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
DeMarcus is EveryWare Man
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This baffles me to no end
I know football fans don’t like statistics for whatever reason
I often wonder if these folks also still think the Earth is flat because their eye-test proves it.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 28, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
the hell you mean the Earth isn’t flat?
Back to the abacus with you!
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by KD Drummond on Dec 28, 2011 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
mmmmm pi
He who laughs last, thinks slowest
"Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name"
"Really love your peaches, want to shake your tree"
Truncated is never as good as the real thing.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
ah the oft mentioned, never revealed
often to be thought of as mythical PiPie. Thanks for the picture. Does this live next to the picture of sasquatch in your photo album?
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
I prefer piecake
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
ever had a "better than sex" cake?
IF you're gonna act like a turd, go lay in the yard...........Lock n Load
Oh yeah, I am a cake fanatic.
Piecake is still my favorite.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Someone ask my wife if she ever had "better than sex" cake
She said well……………..yeah, what is it?
IF you're gonna act like a turd, go lay in the yard...........Lock n Load
Haha. So she never had it huh
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
No such thing.
At least not in my house ;)
Wins are the best medicine...the ultimate cure-all.
this is a picake
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
fruitcake anyone?
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
Two championship yucking it up
Nice
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
by tommy d. on Dec 29, 2011 10:28 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
are we talking pecan,
pumpkin, apple?
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
It really shouldn't baffle you really
Unlike baseball a football players production can be evaluated in intangible ways that stats can’t measure.
Otherwise, scouts could just look at stats to evaluate players but they need to actually see the player to perform to get the indication of how good he really is.
In Romo we Trust
Odd, my eye-test detects a slight curvature to the horizon.
Then again, these old-time German optics ain’t what they once were, so it might be a twist.
Cry "Havoc!"
it's all comparative Lissyyyyy
Since Eli’s norm is so much lower than this year’s performance, he’s seen as having a “career” year. His “career year” is touted by the media which seems like it’s really extraordinary when, as us Cowboys fans know, the career year for Eli is statistically inferior to Romo’s norm…
Give me:
1. Discount DBL Check
2. Pimpin’ ain’t Breesy
3. Tom Terrific
4. Mr. Candace Crawford
5. Sexual misconduct
6. Matty Ice
7. On the River
8. Megatron’s QB
9. ELIte
10. Super Cam
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
See? Someone else had Cam as #10
Glad I’m not the only one. Put Cam on a better team, maybe he’s a bit higher. LOTS of potential, though still green.
Wins are the best medicine...the ultimate cure-all.
I laughed @ no. 5, well done CD
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by DarkKnight88 on Dec 30, 2011 7:29 AM CST up reply actions
They got it right on defense...
Ware and Ratliff are the only deserving ones. One could make an argument for Lee, but his time will come if he continues to play like he did this year.
The rest of the defense is average. Double Ware, block Ratliff and were in for a long day.
I hope the rest of the defense proves me wrong Sunday night.
by beautifultyrant on Dec 28, 2011 10:29 AM CST reply actions
Finally the number of pro bowlers reflects our talent.
Maybe this will motivate the team to go kick a$$ on sunday.
by beautifultyrant on Dec 28, 2011 10:40 AM CST reply actions
What is Rivers doing on that list? - Not this year
Brandon Marshall? – Excuse me say what?
Antonio Gates? – Not this year. How many Chargers fans are there really?
I'm not sure who should decide the Pro Bowl roster. Fans are biased and many uninformed. Players are biased
as well, many voting for teammates and even worse themselves over and over and over.
Coaches are not without their bias but probably know who are the guys they fear the most.
It’s relative, but fans are the worst. I’d do away with the game. No one watches it anyway.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
they should just do competitions in a fun way
throwing, catching etc
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
I fondly remember events like "The NFL's Fastest Man"
or “The Quarterback challange”. Whatever happened to those?
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 28, 2011 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
They were going to have a dog killing contest, but only one guy signed up.
IF you're gonna act like a turd, go lay in the yard...........Lock n Load
by DIRE WOLF on Dec 28, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
How about a rape 'n' run contest?
Everyone knows the big guy from the Steel city would be the winner, but Stafford could give him a run for his money, at least as far as looking like a rapist goes.
Wins are the best medicine...the ultimate cure-all.
yeah those were
on ABC’s WWofSports (I think)
Those were awesome. No money in it, they dumped the show?
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
They were seen as cheap, fake, made for TV events.
And the Kardashians now have that market cornered.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
ahhh WWofS
too soon for its own good. Now, 90% of all TV is cheap, fake, made for TV or some contrived amalgamation of all 3.
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
I all most never watch network TV, except for sports.
IF you're gonna act like a turd, go lay in the yard...........Lock n Load
I know!
I would much rather watch an edited for TV version of those competitions than the probowl game.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
everyone is biased to some degree
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
i think a panel of well informed and objective and eqiually perceptive at looking at each player compared to ....
others equally goes by stats and how they effected their teams the value they bring. i’m not sure the current way of picking pro-bowl players is anywhere near being correct or just.
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
Tyron Smith will start in the pro bowl next year
anyone wanna say no?
if you gonna pick Eli why even pick a third QB?
sure he had some great 4th quarter comebacks but he also stunk for the majority of half of those games. He also bombed out against the Dolphins, Seahawks, Redskins, Eagles, and Saints
Since when is inconsistency rewarded for 7 year vets? If you dont want Romo in because America loves to hate him ok? But at least put someone who deserves it like Cam Newton killing it as a rookie or Stafford who has carried the offense without a running game all season and a knucklehead defense prone to giving up big plays to almost anyone
Tyron Smith should be there now. Sean Lee will be there once Brian Urlacher retires because for some reason the voters believed that Urlacher had a better season than:
Sean Lee
London Fletcher
Navarro Bowman
and they wonder why people dont watch. it not just because of the stupid defensive rules
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 28, 2011 5:01 PM CST reply actions
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