Cowboys Blow It, Lose To Cardinals In Overtime 19-13
And just like that... the winning streak is over. The Cowboys coughed up a late-game victory and watched the Arizona Cardinals easily march to midfield to start overtime. Then on 1st and 15 from Cardinals territory, Almost Anthony Spencer came close to sacking Kevin Kolb but couldn't; and he dumped a pass off to LaRod Stephens-Howling. The entire Cowboys defense, which looked shellshocked the entire drive and was only aided by Arizona penalties, allowed the third-down back to weave threw them all the way to the end zone to finish off the performance.
In the most inexplicable of endings, Jason Garrett and the Dallas Cowboys literally kept themselves from winning the game in regulation. On a huge third down play, Tony Romo found Dez Bryant at the Arizona Cardinals 31 yard line with 20 seconds remaining. Instead of calling for a timeout, and they had two remaining, the team let the clock run down to seven seconds before spiking the ball. On comes Dan Bailey for the game-winning kick, right? No problem, right? For some strange reason, Chris Boniol and Joe DeCamillis tell Jason Garrett to call for a timeout, even though the announcers stated the play clock was not in danger. The snap and kick happened, and it went straight through the uprights... only it didn't count. To be fair, the Cardinals didn't try to block that kick, as they seemed to hear the whistle when the key Cowboys didn't. To most watching, it appeared that Jason Garrett froze his own kicker.
On the re-kick, Dan Bailey missed for the second time in the game as the clock expired. Pending the post-game presser, this is going to go down as one of the most befuddling losses in recent Cowboys memory. As I write this, [UPDATE] Aaron Rodgers drives GB down the field in 58 seconds and they kick the game-winning field goal. [/UPDATE]
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(Game Recap after the jump)
Update from the presser:

With the Giants loss, Dallas could have wrapped up the NFC East with a win next week. They didn't want it. The offensive line couldn't protect Romo, as the Cardinals sacked him five times. That was their high total for the season as well as the most times that Romo ate dirt. DeMarco Murray had a tough game, running for only 38 yards on 12 carries. He was outplayed by Felix Jones, who ran the rock six times for 36 yards and also caught a pass. Dez Bryant made several big plays, and also had two key passes knocked away from him even though he got both hands on them. He was locked in a duel with rookie cornerback Patrick Peterson for much of the game in a great battle.
DeMarcus Ware spent plenty of time in the second half on the sideline, after suffering a neck/shoulder injury late in the third quarter. He would be in and out, but mostly out, with the game on the line. The defense did enough to win, until that end of regulation miscue deflated them.
The Cowboys got off to a slow start, although they had every opportunity to put Arizona in a big hole early. Three drives inside Cardinals territory, including 2 inside their 36 resulted in no points. Dan Bailey missed his first kick in 27 opportunities when Mat McBriar appeared to give him a bad hold with the laces left on a 53 yard attempt. The Cardinals took the opportunity to move on a short field, making their own 48 yarder to move ahead 3-0. Outside of the yardage allowed though, the defense was giving incredible effort.
Dallas forced four three and outs in the first half, which allowed a struggling offense to stay in striking distance until late in the second quarter. Pinning Arizona deep inside their five and making them punt, Dallas finally capitalized on the great field position when Romo found Jason Witten crossing the middle of the field to get inside the Cards 10. Two plays later, a play action slant pass to Dez Bryant got Dallas in the end zone for a 10-3 halftime lead.
The Cardinals started off the second half in impressive fashion. They got Larry Fitzgerald involved with two big completions and also opened running room for the first time. A Kevin Kolb scramble took the ball to the Dallas five for a first and goal. That's when the defense appeared for the first time of the half, and invoked memories of the Thanksgiving effort against Miami. Dallas stopped their opponent for the fifth consecutive red zone trip when a third down QB sneak was just short and a false start came on the fourth down attempt. Arizona made a field goal to draw within 10-6.
Dallas would respond immediately marching down the field 65 yards for a matching field goal to stretch the lead back to 7. The drive featured Felix Jones, who was the Cowboys best running back most of the day and also threw in a huge 69 yard kickoff return that didn't turn into points. The Cowboys stalled after a jailbreak sacked Romo on first and the team wasn't able to overcome the down and distance.
Arizona got the ball back without much time left in the third after the two time-consuming drives. DeMarcus Ware was injured on the last play of the third, and on the fourth quarter opener, the Cardinals completed their biggest play of the game. Terence Newman was covering Andre Roberts in the slot, and after a half-hearted jam, Roberts faked a comeback and streaked to the left sideline where Kolb found him. A few plays later, Roberts was spinning out of a Mike Jenkins tackle and stiff-arming his way inside the five. Beanie Wells would punch it in from there to tie the ballgame at 13.
On the Cowboys next possession, they quickly moved to midfield. On third and five however, Tony Romo did a little dance as he searched for an open man and was eventually taken down to end the drive. McBriar's punt was perfect, pinning Patrick Peterson on the sideline at their own 20.
Arizona drove to midfield before having to punt, giving Dallas the ball back at their 20 with six and a half minutes remaining. After another Romo rollout, he found Laurent Robinson along the sideline. Robinson went high to reel in the catch, taking the ball to midfield, where the drive would stall. The Cowboys would punt when John Phillips was stopped a couple feet short of the marker, but downed the ball inside the Cardinals five yard line with just under four minutes left.
Dallas forced it's fifth three and out of the game, and the D thought it turned the ball over to Romo and the boys for their third-consecutive late-game victory. A huge Dez Bryant return inside the Cardinals 30 was nullified by Orlando Scandrick's second illegal block on a punt. Romo completed a pass to Jesse Holley, subbing for a tired Bryant, to the Dallas 45. A pass to Witten for no gain took us down to the two-minute warning. A completion over the middle to Kevin Ogletree was followed by a hurry-up QB sneak for the first down.
Then Dallas decided to start shooting at their own feet. Montrae Holland false start. First and 15. Incomplete pass moved it to second down. Romo is up at the line telling everyone who to block, and forgets that there's a play clock. Delay of game. Second and 20. A quick completion to Dez made it a manageable third and 11, and then Romo fired it to Dez for the huge completion. There were 25 seconds left at that point... with two timeouts remaining. Yet, the Cowboys walked up to the line of scrimmage and clocked it at the 31 with seven seconds left.
On a field where players had been slip-sliding all afternoon. On came Bailey, and the rest, just like the four-game winning streak, is history.
With the Giants loss, at least Dallas still has a one-game cushion in the NFC East. They will duke it out for first place next Sunday night back in Cowboys Stadium. This team has a lot to work on this week to be ready for that showdown.
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never seen anything like it
I don’t know what any of those coaches were thinking. This loss is on all of them to ice your own kicker will never ever make any sense to me. It makes Jason Garrett look like the dumbest coach in america.
by beerman2619 on Dec 4, 2011 6:46 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
your wrong about icing the kicker, did you not see what happened?
joe d and chris boniol told jg to call a timeout. apparently, there was something wrong.
Um, he's the HC not them.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
it's his job to listen to his special teams coaches
if they say something is wrong and they need a timeout, you give them the timeout.
by Portland's Cowboy fan on Dec 4, 2011 7:16 PM CST up reply actions
Not at critical junctures of the game
The HC is responsible – plain and simple. He needs to maintain the situational awareness to know if a timeout is a good or bad decision at that point in the game. There really is no excuse.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 4, 2011 7:30 PM CST up reply actions
But the real
mess up, was with 20 sec? left after Dez made that catch, we had two timeouts left and should have at least tried one or two more plays to get closer or who knows a play might have gone the distance.
Garrett said he wanted to insure no “negative” play(s) that might have made the kick more difficult or not possible….I just hate strategy of “play to not lose!”
Play to win, don’t play to not lose!!!!!!
If the play works, never run it again. If it fails, keep running it.
First and goal at the one. Run it three times in a row, and then kick a field goal. Sound familiar?
by CoachGary on Dec 4, 2011 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
the kick went right DOWN THE MIDDLE
but Garrett called a timeout no NOTHING WAS WRONG!!!!!!!!!
by beerman2619 on Dec 4, 2011 6:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
you'll actually notice that everyone on the Cardinals stopped
if we didn’t call a timeout and the play kept going, then they may have blocked it… you never know..
by NUHuskyCowboyMinutemanCeltic on Dec 4, 2011 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
Possibly
but what are the odds they block the FG as compared to the kicker just missing after being iced? What do you think the Cards staff thinks – that they wished the TO wasn’t called so they’d have a better chance of blocking it?
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 4, 2011 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
I'm saying we may not have been set up the right way
And if that play had played out they may have run in untouched for a clean block… That’s why we called a timeout….
by NUHuskyCowboyMinutemanCeltic on Dec 4, 2011 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
You're right
them blocking the FG was clearly a large possibility.
Good thing we called that timeout…
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 4, 2011 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
I see why JG did it, but he should have overrruled them
He’s a young HC. He’ll learn
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
Absolute bull. Garrett should have called a TO immediately after Dez's catch.The real question is why is he learning
now what other coaches learned in high school. 2 plays and 2 to’s left to get Bailey closer. Garrett’s late game stupidity cost a win, a win that could have been very important on Jan 1. Garrett freezes in crunch time. Hell, he froze for 2 qtrs against Detroit. Totally inexcuseable. Tan, there is no better example of a loss NOT being a team loss. This is ALL on Garrett.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
by stubabe on Dec 5, 2011 1:43 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Although I agree with just about everything you said...
…I disagree with this not being a team loss.
Felix didn’t even look for a pass that should have been a td. Not on JG.
Scandrick’s penalties. Not on Garrett.
Spotty protection for Romo leading to 5 sacks. Not on Garrett, necessarily. I think the oline execution should take credit for most of it.
Tnew’s downright crappy play all night. Not on Garrett.
Bailey’s missed FG’s (especially the first one), not on Garrett. I’d like to add, one may very well have been a horrible hold, so maybe it’s not even on Bailey.
JG blew it when he didn’t call a TO with 25+ seconds left.
But make no mistake about it, this was a team loss. Always is.
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"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
Bailey's been iced before and still made it
Pure luck, ball didn’t bounced our way today… we’ll be alright, we may not be the most talented team but this team’s got heart
Not our secondary, they just don't give a crap
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"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
by thebigham on Dec 4, 2011 6:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
couldn't agree w/ u more ham
name something u sit in.. chair.. try again.. big chair.. nope that's the same thing try again.. high chair.. that's still a chair.. chair.. say something other than chair.. what if i can't think of anything.. u can pass.. how do i pass.. just say it.. say what.. say pass.. chair
I don't get the ragging on the secondary today
they’ve been the weak point in the past but not today. Our offense should have scored more than 13 points in regulation
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"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
scott the secondary was atrocious
but that oline was even worse.. i don’t like when dal plays in glendale but i hate how this team just finds ways to lose up in that place.
name something u sit in.. chair.. try again.. big chair.. nope that's the same thing try again.. high chair.. that's still a chair.. chair.. say something other than chair.. what if i can't think of anything.. u can pass.. how do i pass.. just say it.. say what.. say pass.. chair
by DarkKnight88 on Dec 4, 2011 8:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
They gave up 13 points in regulation and on many of the sacks, Kolb had time to throw
but couldn’t find open receivers. The secondary is our weak point, as it has been for years, but I don’t blame them today.
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
the secondary
was consistently playing 7-8 yards off their man the entire game. No one can press the receivers or jam them at the line. We consistently give the opposing WR room to breathe, as if we don’t trust our safety help enough if our CB’s get beat off the line.
In order to play a tough 3-4 scheme, you have to have corners that can man up and press their man. You can not play scared, as we do with our secondary.
by Drewsky on Dec 4, 2011 11:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Iced
I think there is a different psychological reaction when you are iced by your own coach!
by Jonathan Bradley on Dec 4, 2011 6:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
And you have how much evidence to back this up?
No, just opinion. And you’re a licensed psychologist, right? No?
Then why should we believe that?
My most recent fanpost:
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Because it's just friggin' stupid . . .
. . . to ice your own kicker . . . and no one needs a psycology license to back up that statement!
From the hometown of Bob Lilly,
Coty, I gotta ask
you REALLY don’t think that the TO had ANY affect on Bailey?
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 4, 2011 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
when a kicker gets
To attempt a kick even when a time out is called it benefits the kicker. Especially when the attempt is good. It’s basically a free practice kick.
Pirates Vs. Ninjas? Psh......Cowboys, baby.
by oneinsider on Dec 4, 2011 10:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Dead solid perfect.beerman.
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"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
Giants lose
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"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
Was is Felix's birthday?
Why were we even trying to run it with him. Where was Murray?
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"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
Felix averaged 6 a carry, Murray 3.
6 for 36 vs 12 for 38
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Murray needs to be fed the ball.
He never got a rhythm going.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
I can understand the Murray love.
But really? He wasn’t successful on that slippery turf against a physical defense.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
At one point Murray was averaging 5.6 ypc....
and he only got the ball 6 more times during the game. Murray is a beast and seems to get stronger the more he gets the rock. He didn’t run the ball that well against Miami but he got us tha yards when we needed it. I cannot believe that he only got the ball 12 times. Did Romo even throw to him? I believe that this game was VERY POORLY coached, and the play selection was atrocious.
Here's nother tidbit:
Murray doesn’t look for the sideline when he runs. He looks for contact, and the possibility of picking up a couple extra yards. In effect, he keeps the clock moving. I have to go back and rewatch, but this is something Felix does not do. I know for sure Felix was responsible for stopping the clock a couple times. May not be the biggest deal in the world, but it certainly has an impact.
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"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
That was straight from the Andy Reid School of Clock Management
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
lol
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
Don't forget Les Miles!
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
Giants at home next weekend
Moment of truth for this team.
Right now
I can’t even imagine us winning that game. We have a lot of problems in the secondary and the offensive line.
+100000000
Doug Free looks bad, really bad out there, so I know JPP is going to have a field day. Our secondary looks like a JV squad.
I told everyone we can't sleep on LaRod
Saw him play many times in high school and at Pitt….one of the most underrated players in the league.
Well, at least we’re still in first place….next week will be for East title
In Romo we Trust
Next week won't be for anything.
Week 17 will be.
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"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
You can disagree but you would be wrong.
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"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
Here's your nickname
DAN FAILEY !
by traderchris on Dec 4, 2011 6:49 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Why are we
getting on Dan Bailey? Its not his fault for this
Seriously?
It’s Garrett’s fault. 100%.
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It's nobody dude
That was pure luck!! The ball just doesn’t bounce our way in that stadium… What if Bailey had missed the first one (which by the way, I think the fact that nobody was trying to block it had a lot to do with him making it; he rushed the second one) and made the second one? He would be a genius for calling that time out. This happens in the NFL, Garrett and Romo gotta be better on time management and should’ve called that timeout instead of spiking it but it happens.. we’ve been on the other side of these games
That was FAR from his fault.
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Big deal Giants lost
Think i’d be more worried about the way this team is playing. And how you can bounce back after giving a game away vs a bad team. Giants looked good today if Dallas plays like it did today they will lose by a couple td’s
dallas is just not that good
Every game has been so close and some could have gone one way or another.We need too many pieces.New York will stomp us.If we get no pressure on Eli and with our CB.s, we are dead
by Oshawa Cowboy on Dec 4, 2011 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
I done told you the Cardinals would win
that was actually a more hilarious choke than the Patriots game. well done.
dude, who are you? go away.
if your a cardinals fan, good luck sitting at home watching the playoffs from there.
while we are still marching forward to a playoff berth troll.
He said the Dolphins would win the week before too
Probably just an Eagle fan trolling. Gives him something to do since their season is over.
by TheDynastyReturns2011 on Dec 4, 2011 6:55 PM CST up reply actions
I remember this guy. He's got a membership to like every SBNation site.
Trolls them all. Has no other life, apparently.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
Having memberships to a lot of SBN blogs doesn't make you a "troll"
I have a membership to all 32 NFL SBN blogs, and a few others as well. I have a life, and I’m not a troll.
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we still control our own destiny
a loss by the giants today was good for us, but at the same time. we need to be on all cylinders coming out of the gate next week at home.
we can still put this out of reach with a win next week at home.
im just very disappointed by the clock management by dallas’s last drive.
Yes we have seen anything like it!! How about the last two times we played in that stadium?
Relax everyone!! I can’t believe people are calling for Garrett’s head, when we are still leading the division. We stole the last two games, they stole this one. We are still in the thick of things, Garrett and Romo gotta be smarter but we are still in it. And say what you want about Romo in Dec. He’s playing lights out. Bailey will be alright…
Not the end of the world, it’s how the NFL goes… On to the Giants next week!!
This off season
Janoris Jenkins and Mario Williams or Cliff Avril
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
Mario's going to be re-signed by us.
He had 5 sacks in 4 games prior to his injury, so it’s not like he struggled in our new scheme.
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by bone31crusher on Dec 4, 2011 6:57 PM CST up reply actions
lmao you can't believe people are upset at Garrett
Did you watch the same game i did? Did you see Mccarthy ice his own kicker today BUCK NO!!!!! Garrett will never get the job done here he is a bucking moron.
by beerman2619 on Dec 4, 2011 6:51 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
McCarthy called a timeout with 3 seconds left.
What’s the difference?
My most recent fanpost:
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for a 31yd fg without the ST about to kick
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"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
So you think it would make sense to call two consecutive timeouts?
We didn’t. Only one.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
No. We should of tried for better posisiotn
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
Same thing in the first half
4th and one and miss a 50+ FG. Going for the first down makes way more sense.
Don't kid yourselves.
Giants pushed the packers to the brink. Gina’s by a landslide next week. Our secondary can’t handle anything they have.
by xQuinnx on Dec 4, 2011 6:52 PM CST via mobile reply actions
i agree i just don't see this team beating the Giants
This team is playing bad thats the bottom line. O-line looks terrible. Secondary is garbage and the head coach is stuck on stupid.
by beerman2619 on Dec 4, 2011 6:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This loss really doesn't matter after the giants losing today
the NFC East will be decided on whether we can at least split the next two games with the Giants
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
lol this loss doesn't matter
WTF is wrong with some of you. Just lost to a 4-7 team could be up two games. You have a coach that totally blows this game i’m done so is this team.
by beerman2619 on Dec 4, 2011 6:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, if we cannot win the division
and need to rely (hope) on a Wildcard spot, it sure does mean a ton
f it - rivvid.com
by LucyFur3d on Dec 4, 2011 6:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
So we can count on you not being there for the playoff threads?
Okay. Good. Saves us on the beer budget.
My most recent fanpost:
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+1
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by Medical Cowboy on Dec 4, 2011 11:28 PM CST up reply actions
We're not gonna win every game and this loss hurts bc JG made a boneheaded mistake
but he’s a young coach learning. The Giants just spent themselves losing to the Packers at home. That loss did matter for the Giants because they are still behind the Cowboys.
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
It means a lot.
Can we not win on the road? Can we not take advantage of good field position? Can our defense not generate a turnover or a sack when it needs to? Can we cover any team 3 wide +?
Can we win 3 of the next 4? Who knows.
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"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
This is December. We are lucky if we split the next 4 games and go 9-7.
We’ve beaten one team with a winning record. That really tanslates into an 8-8 OR AT BEST 9-7 TEAM. We need secondary help so bad. If D Ware isn’t in there and we get no pass rush, and the secondary is pathetic. The Cardinals are a better defensive team than we are. T New made their WRs look like All-Pros. Jenkins had Fitzgerald all afternoon.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
that's ok then
so if we had played a later game than the giants we shouldn’t have bothered to come out of the tunnel
by Elv on Dec 4, 2011 6:54 PM CST up reply actions
the TO was called way before the kick
ST and kicker coach told JG to call it, they saw something wrong. Bailey just missed it
Nobody cares about your effin fantasy team, keep it to yourself...........Lock n Load
Wrong? I didn't see any players go out on the field or anything..
JG is the HC he doesn’t have to do anything.
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"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
by thebigham on Dec 4, 2011 6:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
whatever, that's dumb
Nobody cares about your effin fantasy team, keep it to yourself...........Lock n Load
Well he's the boss.. its his job to MANAGE.
Obviously nothing major could of been wrong is no one new came onto the field right?
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"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
and don't listen to you're asst. right
Nobody cares about your effin fantasy team, keep it to yourself...........Lock n Load
Its in the heat of the moment
He looked lost like um why am I calling this TO.
Who knows
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
Some teams would have called the TO
as soon as they got the 1st down and tryed to get closer.
most teams would
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
Garrett's Decision-making
His decisionmaking was horrendous tonight and has been on other occasions. How do you not use your timeouts and then ice your own kicker? Please explain this to me!
I can't stand this team!!!!!!!!!
We are sub 500 football team. PERIOD. We have not beaten anyone of significance, yet we lose to crappy teams. And don’t feed me on “well Arizona is a much improved team.” They suck and so do we. We have some good players, but man of them are old and it shows. What Newman did in OT was so STUPID. He’s been around long enough to know that you need to play situational football. JG is a moron for calling a TO to ice our kicker but not one at 20 something seconds left to try and get a few more yards. THAT WOULD HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE!!!!! We need to realize that we can probably make the playoffs, but to think we are capable of winning when we get there is pure homerism. I believe JG is the right coach for this team and Romo is our QB. The problem is our D. we have not had a quality CB since Dieon for christsake or a good safety since Woodson (except a few years from RW). We need some help in the secondary and up front. We never should’ve let JJ Watt go in the 4th. I honestly believe that next year and beyond we can compete for a championship but not until we upgrade our secondary.
All we are doing right now is falling down the draft chart and positioning ourselves for a first round exit from the playoffs.
Camp Cupcake turns to....Camp "Pound"cake
Careful
If you start to smell something burning, be advised, it’s probably a stroke. I have been looking for a candle burning since the game ended. I think I need to go to the hospital.
by Jonathan Bradley on Dec 4, 2011 6:58 PM CST up reply actions
Some people haven't completely mastered statistics.
Clearly, our friend doesn’t understand what “SUB 500” stands for.
Maybe the whole team only averages 497 footlongs per season?
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
No need to copy and paste this from the game thread.
And JJ Watt didn’t go in the 4th.
If this team was coached by a coach
That knew how to manage a game. The Dallas Cowboys would have one loss.
except that we've won most of the close games
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
Some of the close games should not have been so close
And most of the loses, were “in the bag”.
We could easily be 11-1 or 3-9. The law of averages has gone slightly in our favor
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
by ScottB1985 on Dec 4, 2011 9:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Just infuriating
Garrett has been great lately, but this was Dave Campo coaching today. Horrible playcalling and absurd clock management.
Greetings from the Humungus, the Ruler of the Wasteland, the Ayatollah of Rock and Roll-A. I laugh at your puny plans.
the idiots are back
Nobody cares about your effin fantasy team, keep it to yourself...........Lock n Load
by DIRE WOLF on Dec 4, 2011 6:55 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Well why would we run out the clock and settle for a 48yd FG?
Mind Boggling.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
by thebigham on Dec 4, 2011 6:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The same thing happened in SF...
But no one questioned Garrett since Bailey hit the tying FG in regulation. I would expect better game management from Garrett than this. After Dez catches the 3rd Down conversion, if Romo is stupid enough not to call one of his 2 timeouts with time left, it’s up to Garrett to call timeout.
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
by selke99 on Dec 4, 2011 7:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't like that decision either,
but we watched two rather poor fgs by bailey from 50 and 53. We should not have been confident.
by foyesboys on Dec 4, 2011 7:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You are so right!!
May the force be with the Star.......... always!!!
Dallas Cowboys football isn't just a game in my house, it is a festive holiday every Sunday!!!!!!!!
guy should be fired
he is a bucking moron
you're the moron
Nobody cares about your effin fantasy team, keep it to yourself...........Lock n Load
by DIRE WOLF on Dec 4, 2011 6:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I bet the team responds and wins the next two games!!!
May the force be with the Star.......... always!!!
Dallas Cowboys football isn't just a game in my house, it is a festive holiday every Sunday!!!!!!!!
Most Ivy Leaguers are.
They don’t have the money or the brains for your prestigious alma mater.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
Zing!
"The mothers and fathers of America will give you their sons and daughters...with the confidence in you that you will not needlessly waste their lives. And you dare not. That's the burden the mantle of leadership places upon you. You could be the person who gives the orders that will bring about the deaths of thousands and thousands of young men and women. It is an awesome responsibility. You cannot fail. You dare not fail..."
-General H. Norman Schwarzkopf
by Medical Cowboy on Dec 4, 2011 11:30 PM CST up reply actions
Next week, Miles Austin is back
Fiametta is a slim possibility
There are so many games we should have flat out lost… sometimes weird things happen. Especially in that freaking stadium
When are Cliff Harris and Charlie Waters
coming back?
by Mikellie on Dec 4, 2011 8:09 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
+41 and +43
If you don’t know what that means, well, I’ll just smh and lol and brb and then tty.
"I'm huunngray. I want some f**ken french tooast!"
Icing
For years I have always believed that calling a timeout right before a kick was a waste of time. Know I have proof that Icing does work. Thanks JG for providing me with the proof I have so long desired.
by Jonathan Bradley on Dec 4, 2011 6:56 PM CST reply actions
I think the strategy of icing your OWN kicker
is still a study in progress
yeah can't believe Mccarthy didn't call a time out
right before Crosby kicked the game winner
Bailey kicked it right down the middle also
right when Garrett called that time out what a bucking moron
Yeah like he knew bailey was gonna make it and said let's call a timeout to make it harder for him
Hindsight is 20/20, and you are the bucking moron my friend. Sh*t happens.. This is a resilient team with a QB thats on fire, we’ll be back stronger
by BoyzNick on Dec 4, 2011 6:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not today
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
We have seen this all too many times before..
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
Negativity will get you nowhere son
This is a different team, different season…
Trust me see my sig im not a negative person
but cmon ive seen this story before, i want to belive but losing like this to a 3-7 is pathetic.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
Yea and they played great in every other game
Cowboys can’t say the same
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
Very good point,
Take out our wins against Buffalo, and the Rams, and the offense has not been very good.
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
Time Out
I think JG was just trying to make up for not calling a time out on the previous play when we could have taken a shot at the endzone. JG, and the entire coaching staff, seemed to be playing about 45 seconds behind all day.
by Jonathan Bradley on Dec 4, 2011 7:02 PM CST up reply actions
i guess you could start scandrick and newman
but seeing how many times you have at least three corners out there it wouldn’t really matter, except for the sake of making a point
by Elv on Dec 4, 2011 7:00 PM CST up reply actions
Did you see Walker with that ugly hold at the end of the game?
It’s because he was about to get smoked off the line. Give him a bigger role in the defense, and it only gets worse from here on out. Walker’s a has-been. We desperately need to address our secondary concerns in the draft. Sensabaugh sucks in coverage too.
Wins are the best medicine...the ultimate cure-all.
Scandrick is part of the problem. He's not the answer.
The answer is in the draft next year (we hope).
by Mikellie on Dec 4, 2011 9:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah we can possibly forgive him getting beat cuz of his age
but his play where he fouls someone, he has been in this league long enough to know not to do the crap he was doing today that got a penalty flag and really hurt his team. I am sick of Newman. PLEASE Jerry get me a new CB for Christmas (next year pretty please with lots of sugar on top c’mon man
Just becuz you put yer boots in the oven don't make it bread
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Dec 4, 2011 7:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Please let Scandrick know
If you can read the players name, don’t block him.
What is it about the f'n dang AZ Cardinals?
WTF is it about them that we can’t get our heads wrapped around? Yeah, sure a different team in a different year, same ol same ol result
Just becuz you put yer boots in the oven don't make it bread
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Dec 4, 2011 6:59 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
One they just have our number right now.............
……………….and two I think you can blame the Steeler effect. Their coach is from that team and they love to put it to us because we are the Cowboys!!!
May the force be with the Star.......... always!!!
Dallas Cowboys football isn't just a game in my house, it is a festive holiday every Sunday!!!!!!!!
at least we didn't lose our punter, QB, guard, and running back in the game
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
What is it about the AZ Cardinals
It’s called scheme. It’s a coaching thing. Garrett gets out coached by good coaches.
And why didn't Garrett use a timeout
with 22 seconds left had 2 left get it closer for Bailey. Could of got a couple runs in.
that will be the main topic of the week
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point. It's going to be exciting when that time comes. And when we look back, we'll know who was on what side of the fence during those tough moments." - Tony Romo
to me that was bigger than the timeout he did call
He needs to make an effort to be more aware of to remaining and game clock
That and...
Why this offense can’t score more than 13 points against this team. Yes the secondary sucked at times but if I told you we would hold the Cardinals to 13 points we would take it
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
Thats the million dollar question
Can’t wait to hear about that
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
Feels like when the run game isnt working
Garrett gets fancy and out thinks himself and all-around just does odd things
fearing a fumble and too much trust in your kicker i guess
judgement call and he couldn’t have been more wrong if he was secretly in the employ of the giants
by Elv on Dec 4, 2011 7:02 PM CST up reply actions
Bingo.
Thanks JG for explaining that timeout…there is a different non-timeout we want answers to….
2 part question....
Eli Manning sucks and
go f@#k yourself!
(Tosh.O "crying Giants fan")
by Wayward Irish on Dec 4, 2011 7:06 PM CST up reply actions
You cant fear everything if you want to win
4th and 1, go for a 50+ FG………. fear
don’t try to score before half………. fear
don’t try to improve a 48 yard FG attempt……….fear
by cowboy north on Dec 4, 2011 7:27 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
fear the star?
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
Except for the right before the half stuff
This post is worthy of a recommendation. Aw, heck, I’ll give it one anyway.
If we have to play the Cards next year...
Can the NFL give it to us at freakin home?! We can’t win in Arizona, period.
No we won't have to play him.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
theres 4 games left you have no idea
chances are seattle will be 2nd though
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
i've thought a lot worse things than that since the game ended
slowly calming down but still thinking that if I go out to work tomorrow and mess things up like JG did I’d be fired by day’s end, but then again my pay off would be slightly less than his
by Elv on Dec 4, 2011 7:03 PM CST up reply actions
dude are you really calling for garretts head?! talk about overreacting!!
take it easy, we win some we lose some, we are playing with bandaids and this team is still getting it done more than not…
Yes Garretts head
If Garrett managed the games the way he should. this team would have one loss.
Yeah, it sucks.
Mostly because we had a clean snap, hold, and kick.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
kicker missed the kick, it happens. move along
Nobody cares about your effin fantasy team, keep it to yourself...........Lock n Load
Heck yes!!! Move along!!!
May the force be with the Star.......... always!!!
Dallas Cowboys football isn't just a game in my house, it is a festive holiday every Sunday!!!!!!!!
Darth Baily is not the problem!!!
May the force be with the Star.......... always!!!
Dallas Cowboys football isn't just a game in my house, it is a festive holiday every Sunday!!!!!!!!
He's not the problem but...
he missed the kick. Good snap, good hold, missed the kick. I don’t blame him or Garrett for the loss. No win or loss should be put on one person in a team game. There was plenty of blame to go around for everyone.
something weird always seems to happen in the stadium
im not concerned about this game. we lost. the season isn’t over. we still have games to play. a 10-6 record will do it for us, split with the giants and win the rest of them.
anyone know the clinching scenarios for us?
This game only proves the Law of Averages...
If anything we can expect a big game next week
Newsflash!! Talentwise yes, we are average
But the reason we are winning close games is because we got heart and determination!! See if you can say that about last year..
You can't even say that about this game, dude. Check yourself
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
I'll give you guys credit
The Cowboys did play very well for most of the game, and as a whole I thought both defenses played very well for most of the day.
Good game. Whenever our two teams seem to meet up lately the games always seem to be nailbiters that come down to the last minute. You guys were pretty cool to talk with again like most of the people on these SBN blogs.
Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan
Phoenix Suns, Arizona Diamondbacks, Phoenix Coyotes, Arizona Rattlers fan
[I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
Leading the NFL in swagtangibles
Defense got killed the second half.
When Arizona needed points, they got them.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
Need more defense.
been saying it all season long
by Jonathan Stern on Dec 4, 2011 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
the boys didn't play well Joe
congrats on the win tho, my hate for ur team is starting to come back full circle lol
name something u sit in.. chair.. try again.. big chair.. nope that's the same thing try again.. high chair.. that's still a chair.. chair.. say something other than chair.. what if i can't think of anything.. u can pass.. how do i pass.. just say it.. say what.. say pass.. chair
Next weeks game is what a Sunday night game right ?
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point. It's going to be exciting when that time comes. And when we look back, we'll know who was on what side of the fence during those tough moments." - Tony Romo
The contact that takes place when our defense is on the field is very sincere ~ Les Miles
Dirk Nowitzki's Flamingo Fade away is this generation's Sky Hook
by jharrison2090 on Dec 4, 2011 7:04 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
ok im calm now
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point. It's going to be exciting when that time comes. And when we look back, we'll know who was on what side of the fence during those tough moments." - Tony Romo
hahaha this is the perfect picture
"When I die, I want the Philadelphia Eagles to be the pallbearers at my funeral. So they can let me down, one last time" - Anonymous Eagles fan on 2011 season
by Blue Eyed Devil on Dec 4, 2011 7:33 PM CST up reply actions
LMFAO So good! Thanks for the laugh
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
Thank you. Thank. You. Annnnndd, thank you.
I needed that.
"I'm huunngray. I want some f**ken french tooast!"
Secondary
I would like to change the name of the secondary to the thirdary or the fourthary, maybe even the thirty-secondary! Are DBs are second to no one. We are a little farther down the list.
by Jonathan Bradley on Dec 4, 2011 7:05 PM CST reply actions
Just got back from the game.
Very ugly performance by the Cowboys. I have no idea why they ran the clock down with 2 timeouts. And then if that’s bad enough, to actually ice your own kicker. Arizona won their superbowl for the third straight year.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
for the last time, it wasn't icing the kicker. srsly.
if you were at the game, did you not see boniol and joe d telling jg to call a time out?
they didn’t like what they saw. it only looked that way because that’s what was shown.
stop acting like it was an icing of the kicker.
I couldn't see the sideline
I was actually watching Arizona’s, looking at whether Wizz was going to Ice the Kicker.
No. It wasn’t icing the kicker. That was only the result. No one is saying Garrett purposefully iced his own kicker.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
I'd like to know...
Exactly how many seconds were left on the game clock.
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
7 seconds when they spiked it.
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
21 seconds when dez caught it, I think
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
it was closer to 26-27 seconds right at the moment dez caught it
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Dec 4, 2011 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
So they bypassed enough time for at least 3 more plays?
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
yes, they kinda goofed around before spiking it
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
I thought they were going to break out into a flash mob routine they took so long
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
Say what you want about who asked who to do what.
They iced their own kicker.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
Ice a kicker?
Really? Do you truly believe that it is possible to ice a professional kicker? That’s amazing. Wow.
I think it's possible to put doubt into the head of any human being, even the mighty kicker. ooooooooo
Not familiar with psychology, I see. WOW
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
Not saying it is possible, but
why do so many professional NFL head coaches do it if it doesn’t have a small chance of working?
And if it has a small chance of working, why would you do it to your own kickier?
"I'm huunngray. I want some f**ken french tooast!"
It's easy to focus on mistakes at the end of the game
but multiple missed opportunities and errors. They could not get out of their own way…. dropped balls by Dez, two awful penalties on Scandrick on STs, failed sacks and busted coverage, poor tackling, missed FGs by a perfect kicker and huge mental errors on the o-line. I no way did they look like a team coming off 10 days of rest.
Don't believe everything you think.
Those fouls on Scandrick was complete horse s**t
We had the game wrapped up right there…
To have a push in the back...you need to push first...
If the guy stops in front of you and you have your arms up…i don’t think you call it…extremely ticky tacky
if you're trailing yr guy by that much
don’t give the officials a chance to throw the flag, be smarter, I guess the players didn’t go to no ivy league schools
by Elv on Dec 4, 2011 7:12 PM CST up reply actions
I can't imagine thats how they want the rule implemented
I also don’t know how Scandrick could’ve avoided it. The guy just stopped – why is a gunner given the same sort of protection as a wr?
Good snap analysis.
This is the money line:
no way did they look like a team coming off 10 days of rest.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
Or maybe they did?
Too long?
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
They lost both of their bye week games this season.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
Garrett is a moron
bottom line if this team collapses i could see him getting fired at end of season i hope.
sigh, they're in 1st place
Nobody cares about your effin fantasy team, keep it to yourself...........Lock n Load
by DIRE WOLF on Dec 4, 2011 7:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
seriously lol
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
for real why question anything? Everything is roses.
2 part question....
Eli Manning sucks and
go f@#k yourself!
(Tosh.O "crying Giants fan")
by Wayward Irish on Dec 4, 2011 7:09 PM CST up reply actions
disregard..thought the replies were to Mr. Mulligan.
2 part question....
Eli Manning sucks and
go f@#k yourself!
(Tosh.O "crying Giants fan")
by Wayward Irish on Dec 4, 2011 7:10 PM CST up reply actions
this only matters at the end of the year, not with 4 games left to be played.
do you really care who is in first place in week 5? NO. And with as tight as this race is becoming, it’s that kind of “oh well, we’re in first place” attitude that will destroy this team. Stop making excuses. We lost. It’s not something to celebrate.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
We can't fire the coach every year
especially when this one didn’t even had an offseason. We want instant gratification but rebuilding takes time.
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
+1
We are still 7-5, any team that fires a Head Coach with a winning record in his first year is retarded
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
thats a
no brainer, it makes no sense. Unless Bailey likes 49 yarders more than 45 or 46 yarders. this is baffling
Texas Stadium has a hole in the roof so God can watch his favorite team play football.
49 yard fg is never a gimme.
I don’t care how good of a kicker you are.
especially since Bailey already missed a long one earlier
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
Isn't it obvious?
Bailey struggles when he kicks off grass. Case in point: Last miss prior to this week was in SF (on grass).
Wins are the best medicine...the ultimate cure-all.
True,
But all of his misses have come off grass. Perfect off of turf. Small sample size, true, but nonetheless….
Wins are the best medicine...the ultimate cure-all.
Just saying it's a coincidence.
Kicked 6 field goals on grass so I don’t think grass is the problem. Also kicks 20-30 of them in warmups.
that was at home on turf
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 4, 2011 11:16 PM CST up reply actions
Worked in SF.
I questioned this in week 2 when Dallas got to midfield with at least 2 min left and didn’t go for the kill and got a bunch of excuses.
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
now I'm not sure who to root for in the Sunday night game
Root for the Lions so we can have a shot at the #3 seed?
Or root for the Saints because we might need the wild card?
BTW Five weeks ago how many of you would have been happy if I’d told you we would be in sole possession of 1st place in the NFC East after week 13?
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
can't look at it that way
Yes i did actually with the Giants schedule and the Cowboys schedule.
I know but when I watch a non-Cowboys game
I can’t help but want to root for one side or other other, makes the game more interesting, but in this case it depends so much on what still remains that’s it’s hard to know what outcome is better for us.
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
Yeah can't look at it that way!! How dare you be positive!!
Get outta here!! In here we are negative!! Seasons over, who cares we are in 1st place(by ourselves) Fire Garrett fire everybody!! Romo’s a choker!! It was Jerry’s fault!!
It's sad to see so many of you happy with a flimsy lead in the division.
By the way, it’s only week 13. Last time I checked, there are 4 more weeks to compete, and we still have to play 3 games against division rivals.
If we don’t make the playoffs, I’m going to be sure to rub in your face how happy you are with first place in the division during meaningless week 13.
WAKE UP PEOPLE! This is the same attitude we would chastise our players for having.
Every game is important.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
And once we make it into the playoffs
You’ll be sure to either hide or change your username.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
Or neither. I'm just not complacent. Good luck with that.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
Icing their own kicker was pure, pure Cowboys.
It has to go right up there with…well, a lot of thing’s Romo’s done.
"Gut Feeling"
Gastrointerologists confirm the human gut contains no rational thoughts.
What it IS full of is fairly well known.
Haha, good luck on your first playoff berth and lost
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
you either love or hate the cowboys
and those who hate us will be dancing in the street laughing their heads off, let’s hope it’s the last opportunity for them to do just that in the next two months
Jerry trade up for Claiborne please
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point. It's going to be exciting when that time comes. And when we look back, we'll know who was on what side of the fence during those tough moments." - Tony Romo
I can't wait until all these weekend bloggers leave and the real fans can give good analysis
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
by Holchr31 on Dec 4, 2011 7:07 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
i dont always ice the kicker...
but when i do … i prefer to ice my own kicker. !
woman !, don't try to understand em, don't try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
(redskins)= A Tale of 2 owners, bought by Snyder, OWNED by the COWBOYS
Id say RIP Al Davis, but i know your up there drunker than a monkey and clocking angels in the 40 yd dash.
by demonbane on Dec 4, 2011 7:07 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
please Jerry get a head coach in here
Thats all i will ask for Christmas.
You should.
They are just as turn coat as you sound right now.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
this beermans an idiot man
the kind of guy that gives the Cowboys fans a bad rap… He was born an eagle but somewhere along the way got lost and turned out a cowboy
somewhere along the way got lost and turned out a cowboy
Thats how you become a Cowboy.
ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th
Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT
Shady is the best RB in the NFL not AP
he is the real deal, that dude scares me to death more than anyone on that team besides Vick with time to throw the ball
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by ChiaCrack on Nov 5, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
this first year head coach has us in 1st place in the east
and in clear playoff contention at the 3/4 pole
ask me if I’d take that at the start of the season as a successful start for JG and I’d have said hell yeah
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
exactly how I feel about it.
While I’m upset about the loss, there’s no point in standing on the ledge. Last year at this time, we were hoping just to stay in the game.
last year we were debating how high our draft position would be
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
Yeah, let's be happy about this loss instead. Let's be happy with the slimmest of leads in the division, with four games left, three of them against division rivals, two of them left against the Giants who are nipping at our heels.
Sure. Let’s rejoice the fact that we lost to a sub-par team even though we should have put the game away several times. Let’s be happy that our playoffs will probably start week 17 now.
Let’s not think anything negative, because that obviously makes us less-than-worthy fans.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
yea jake don't u know ur only a "true"
fan as long as u wear rose colored glasses & think everything is handy dandy lol i joke of course.. imo each fan has their own way of dealing w/ losses, no one is right/wrong.. me personally i get frustrated but its the same song different yr, now garrett has alot to work on but i don’t want him fired he’s done some good things but this team needs more talent.
name something u sit in.. chair.. try again.. big chair.. nope that's the same thing try again.. high chair.. that's still a chair.. chair.. say something other than chair.. what if i can't think of anything.. u can pass.. how do i pass.. just say it.. say what.. say pass.. chair
I'm more upset at
not going for it early in the game when Bailey missed the first field goal.
by hbdc on Dec 4, 2011 7:08 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I was upset about that too...
Even if you don’t convert that’s 7 less yards from a missed kick.
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
Garrett is still a Rookie and Romo is Romo
I just followed the game on the Tracker, but I’m ready to set myself on fire.
Bad clock management is unforgivable in high school, let alone the pros.
Also, it seems the 1st down sacks were real drive killers today. Did Romo have changes to throw those away?
go way troll.
all you do is run your mouth like you know exactly what your talking about.
when you know absolutely nothing.
Go away person no one knows. You know nothing.
Doesn’t feel good, does it?
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
Romo
played ok, no running game, bad play calling, and hurt receivers. this is not on him by any means. also he put us in position to win again. and we did… oh wait we called a t/o so we didnt.. ughh
Texas Stadium has a hole in the roof so God can watch his favorite team play football.
he should have called a TO after Dez caught that last ball.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
agreed
when we blitzed we held kolb in check.
then he started rolling out.
should have used the TO’s at the end of the game to gain a few more yards
a true nt/cb/old and we are set to go
by oneforthethumb on Dec 4, 2011 7:11 PM CST up reply actions
Romo
put us in position to win at the end. again. and he didnt turn the ball over. thats the only positive. Garrett better have an explanation for not taking a to and running the ball for a few more yards. and this defense needs to get back to forcing turnovers. they have been mediocre the last 2 game
Texas Stadium has a hole in the roof so God can watch his favorite team play football.
true can't blame Romo
This loss is on the coaches. Offensive line didn’t play well and the secondary never really does.
defense kept them to 13 pts in regulation
and came out in OT hugely deflated thanks to their OC/HC
by Elv on Dec 4, 2011 7:10 PM CST up reply actions
Next week game is going to be tough
Our DB’s are the weakest link, and their WR’s are a good bunch
Billion dollar dream and hundred dollar nightmares
Did not get to see the game was watching Red Zone
What is the injury situation with D Ware ?
He who laughs last, thinks slowest
"Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name"
"Really love your peaches, want to shake your tree"
I hate to be a downer
but isn’t this just the same story as always? Win in November look good for the playoffs, control our own destiny and then lose it in December? i just feel like I’m reading the same story with different characters. It makes me sick and makes me wonder why I let my hopes get up in November
I’m not a bandwagon fan, just sick of the same old B.S.
by Walket10 on Dec 4, 2011 7:10 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
dont blame you..at all
woman !, don't try to understand em, don't try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
(redskins)= A Tale of 2 owners, bought by Snyder, OWNED by the COWBOYS
Id say RIP Al Davis, but i know your up there drunker than a monkey and clocking angels in the 40 yd dash.
and the year before we went on a winning streak in December and made the playoffs
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
Your december "same old story" is what is BS.
2 of the last 3 years, Romo was either out or injured. Last year we fired our HC/DC. Only 2 seasons ago we went 3-2 in december and won a playoff game.
There is no december pattern for this team. You make me sick and make me wonder if you even follow the history of the Cowboys.
"I'm huunngray. I want some f**ken french tooast!"
Leave With This Thought...
We have the same record as Denver, and the guy who everyone says is a worthless QB. So what does that say about our “QB”?
thats hes good and the reason we've been winning most of our games?
that he has the support of a great defense and romo, not so much?
what are you trying to say man?
Not this old crap again.
The D allowed 13 points in regulation. Dallas’ D is 10th in points allowed per game, and Denver’s great D is 23rd. Dallas’ D is 11th in yards allowed per game and Denver’s great D is 24th.
I’m not saying that this loss is Romo’s fault, but it’s ridiculous to keep trying to blame the D.
by Baked Potato Soup on Dec 5, 2011 2:43 AM CST up reply actions
He
converted a 3rd n 11 to put us in position to win. our o-line was terrible. how is this romo’s fault? did he turn the ball over? did we have a running game?
Texas Stadium has a hole in the roof so God can watch his favorite team play football.
People who blame Romo
For icing the kicker, missing tackles, not blocking are the worst! Without Romo we wouldnt be 7-5 we’d be luck to be 5-7 at this point.
Respect the greatness that is the Dallas Cowboys
he should have called a TO when Dez came down with that last catch
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
by jakezze01 on Dec 4, 2011 8:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
this is true
brady brees rodgers peyton, the best qbs would have called that timeout
Texas Stadium has a hole in the roof so God can watch his favorite team play football.
Oh wait,
Denver has a good secondary.
Wins are the best medicine...the ultimate cure-all.
Then ours must be great.
Denver passing yards allowed per game, 245.2. Cowboys passing yards allowed per game, 230.2. Denver opposing QB rating, 94.2. Dallas opposing QB rating, 82.6.
by Baked Potato Soup on Dec 5, 2011 2:46 AM CST up reply actions
stop that
injecting reality and such.
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Jason Garrett channeling his Inner Les Miles
not the good les but the BAD Les
The contact that takes place when our defense is on the field is very sincere ~ Les Miles
Dirk Nowitzki's Flamingo Fade away is this generation's Sky Hook
.....
i agree with people calling joe d an idiot, but Garrett is too. If he calls a timeout after the first down catch by dez this st gaffe doesn’t happen….call timeout run a play, run a second play call last timeout we get closer and bailey probably makes it being a few yards shorter than 49….Three games people, count them three games garrett has cost this team, detroit, new england and now arizona, garrett aint ready to be a headcoach sometime the guy is like a deer caught in the headlights and can we just place newman on waivers? Im a short and chubby guy at five foot eight 220 pounds rehabbing a broken a leg and I could probably toast newman, giants lose in a nail biter to the pack we lose to the cardinals, giants by 3 tds, I hope I’m wrong
Ill tell you what
Garrett never adjusted to the Arizona Blitz. they practically dared us in the second half. We should have been hitting quick slants on them all day!
Respect the greatness that is the Dallas Cowboys
They were jamming the receivers pretty good..hard to hit slants
We need Miles back….he has the most experience of our wideouts and he adjusts his routes according to the situation
our 1st 2 drives set the tone today.........
missed FG high passes, play calls sucked, field awareness def was lacking, offensive line stunk too much, no screens , newman stunk, refs had their head up some where dark !
woman !, don't try to understand em, don't try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
(redskins)= A Tale of 2 owners, bought by Snyder, OWNED by the COWBOYS
Id say RIP Al Davis, but i know your up there drunker than a monkey and clocking angels in the 40 yd dash.
We need an OC...
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
I'd like to send a special welcome to the fans of other teams here right now.
You’ve known this website address all year long. We haven’t seen you in the five weeks. Stop clowning yourselves.
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by KD Drummond on Dec 4, 2011 7:12 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
lol nice!
2 part question....
Eli Manning sucks and
go f@#k yourself!
(Tosh.O "crying Giants fan")
by Wayward Irish on Dec 4, 2011 7:12 PM CST up reply actions
I would also like to extend a welcome to the Romo haters who somehow always find a way to blame him for everything
We… well didnt miss you at all really,
the idiots come out every time we lose
Nobody cares about your effin fantasy team, keep it to yourself...........Lock n Load
Force Field
Is officially on.
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
You should patent that...
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
Bright side
You learn more from a loss then a win, we are still in first, and if we take care of business next week we’re in the drivers seat for sure
Billion dollar dream and hundred dollar nightmares
+1
Bright side is that the game is over and we dont have to watch our team self destruct everytime we get to midfield
Texas Stadium has a hole in the roof so God can watch his favorite team play football.
or during the gw
fga
Texas Stadium has a hole in the roof so God can watch his favorite team play football.
man how bad is Terrence Newman
guy just looks terrible this season
Just sad that he had trouble covering their 3rd WR.
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
I think this lets us know what we need in the draft.
Corners who can tackle.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
That was a first.
I’ve never seen a team ice their own kicker before…
its at arizona
we lose in heartbreaking fashion there. recall the blocked punt in OT? i hate that place
Texas Stadium has a hole in the roof so God can watch his favorite team play football.
at least this time we didn't lose the punter, QB, guard, and running back
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
So it is better than our last trips to AZ
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
It was better than in'08. That game ruined the season. Last year we lost Kitna.
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
13 points in regulation
you can’t keep asking your D to step up, something will break sooner or later with our talent available
by Elv on Dec 4, 2011 7:16 PM CST up reply actions
well
if the d could generate a turnover maybe it wouldn’t have been 13 pts in reg. but with our roster 13 pts is worhtless
Texas Stadium has a hole in the roof so God can watch his favorite team play football.
Look mat this offense...
That should be enough against this team.
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
so worthless
words cannot describe
Texas Stadium has a hole in the roof so God can watch his favorite team play football.
Yeah we never adjusted our playcalling
Why haven’t we called a screen all year?
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
A quick screen and a screen are differnt
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
Yup...
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
Uhmm, yeah.
A quick toss to the WR is not a screen.
"I'm huunngray. I want some f**ken french tooast!"
And why the hell are you making me agree with The Big Ham?
GET OUT OF MY HEAD!
"I'm huunngray. I want some f**ken french tooast!"
I did notice that we slowly moved away from the run toward the end of the game.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
I'm not sure how slow it was. haha
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
Atlanta lost Detroit prob will lose giants lose
Perfect opportunity wasted
The contact that takes place when our defense is on the field is very sincere ~ Les Miles
Dirk Nowitzki's Flamingo Fade away is this generation's Sky Hook
Move on son.
We focus on next week.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
by Holchr31 on Dec 4, 2011 7:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
or we lucked out
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
peterson looked legit today
why did we have to win in philly last year :(
We needed a lineman bad. We made the right choice.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
Because we hate Philly
And losing to a division rival on purpose is sorry. Tyron is good, he will be good for us.
by me gusta on Dec 4, 2011 7:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
in a nothing game against their back up it mattered not
but i’m playing devil’s advocate, I was angry at those wanting us to lose at the time and I’m happy with TS
by Elv on Dec 4, 2011 7:23 PM CST up reply actions
Why the change from Romo holding snaps?
Bailey had hit 26 in a row so you switch holders to mcbriar and the guy misses 2 kicks. Another great coaching move at a boy JG
he was just filling in until McB's foot nerve would allow him to resume the duties
you don’t really want your starting QB holding kicks regularly
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
I don't have a problem with it
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
The starting QB holding kicks was the way it was in Dallas for a long time.
But I do wonder about bringing McB back in to do it before he was 100% ready.
On the first miss, McB looked angry like he knew it was his fault just like the NYG miss.
"I'm huunngray. I want some f**ken french tooast!"
For sure. Bailey even looked at him a little funny...
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
and yeah and at least a good portion of that streak
was with McB holding btw
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
and his first miss of the season
was cos of a bad mcbriar hold
by Elv on Dec 4, 2011 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
I do agree
Mcbriar was holding instead of brad johnson the year folk turned to shit as well, get mcgee on the case
by Elv on Dec 4, 2011 7:18 PM CST up reply actions
I am very frustrated with some of Garrett's decisions today
But come on, can we also please get some better corners? And an o line that doesn’t ge Tony sacked four or five times? The only time Newman made a play was for the other team and Tony and Murray were getting killed out there. I agree that Garrett made a completely idiotic call, but he was definitely not the only idiot on the field today.
by me gusta on Dec 4, 2011 7:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions
some ? )
woman !, don't try to understand em, don't try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
(redskins)= A Tale of 2 owners, bought by Snyder, OWNED by the COWBOYS
Id say RIP Al Davis, but i know your up there drunker than a monkey and clocking angels in the 40 yd dash.
I have an explantion
Stay with me…
but, I think, and I’m serious…
There are certain portions of the Dallas Cowboys staff that WANT to lose.
Yes, I’m serious.
Is there another explanation?
I tried to stay with you
but I got lost pretty quickly
by Elv on Dec 4, 2011 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
what other explanation
honestly makes sense.
That DeCalmus and Co made a mistake and the Head Coach was dumbe enough to follw them/.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 4, 2011 7:21 PM CST up reply actions
no
you know a lot of teams lose games in the NFL?
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
How do they lose?
By being overmatched or making extremely bad decisions over and over at critical times?
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 4, 2011 7:23 PM CST up reply actions
sometimes both
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
dumbe? lmao
and you call someone dumb
Nobody cares about your effin fantasy team, keep it to yourself...........Lock n Load
sorry
just a typo.
may not be the best secretary but I doubt that makes me dumb…
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 4, 2011 7:24 PM CST up reply actions
The boys have been fortunate
to have a rookie cooker be so successful this year. However, the odds are against him being that clutch that many times. It doesn’t help to have extra time to reflect on that…
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 4, 2011 7:33 PM CST up reply actions
this is kind of a patchwerk Oline cant wait for a few seasons it get it looking legit
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point. It's going to be exciting when that time comes. And when we look back, we'll know who was on what side of the fence during those tough moments." - Tony Romo
Doug free and Costa
have looked terrible to me
It's apparent
Doug Free is NOT a LT. He’s a GUARD.
Tyron needs to move to LT and draft a RT next year. Move Free to LG, Arkin/Hagy to RG and pick up a true C in free agency.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 4, 2011 7:20 PM CST up reply actions
Free was terrible today...
This is probably knee jerk, but I’m wondering if Smith should switch now with Free.
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
???????????
What? I can see the argument for RT but Guard? How do we know he’ll be any good?
Hey now, Romo got to learn under Quincy Carter, Testaverde and Bledsoe. Which is like a human child being raised by a wolf. -DavidH22
If Romulus can do it, so can Romo. ....WAIT A MINUTE - NYHORN
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
have you ever seen Free pull
get outside, down the field and block. I’m farily certain that the Boys have a play specifically designed for Free to be able to do that (which is non-standard for a Tackle to do so).
Free plays like a G to me. And keep in mind that Leonard Davis was a LT w/ the Cards before he was signed by Dallas and moved inside…
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 4, 2011 8:01 PM CST up reply actions
first this team never comes out focused, always playing down to the incompetence of their opponent
second: once again half-time adjustments smacked this team in the face like mandingo on a money shot.
third: clock management continues to be a recurring hassle. not only in late game situations but throughout the game. how many times must the team take 40 seconds to line up and snap the ball? it makes it so much easier for the defense to tee off.
fourth: the secondary is a mess. no playmakers. no one can press, no one can ballhawk, playing soft coverage on 3rd and shorts and such. too many dumb penalties. Andre Roberts had 600 some odd yards in two years prior to this game. He got 1/6 of that today against Newman
Time to tool up the secondary. Next year i think Nagy and Arkin can mask the interior o-lines weakness. but this secondary needs a major overhaul in the worst way
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 4, 2011 7:19 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
thats what cowher said (politely) last week
i didn’t see the game … was there pressure on kolb in the 2nd half? are dbs being asked to cover too long?
no the db's just suck
i mean if the pass rush played any better Kolb would be on his back every play. Any pass he didnt complete was because he threw a poor ball.
There was one play Jenkins broke up and that was it. Secondary has gotten shredded by some of the more inferior QB’s and passing attacks out there. Newman got destroyed by Andre Roberts. It was so bad they were bunching up on Fitzgeralds side so they could get Newman one on one against Roberts with no safety help and of course he got torched
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 4, 2011 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
I saw the game in person and haven't watched the replay yet
but this is what I remember as well:
Any pass he didnt complete was because he threw a poor ball
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
any word on the D Ware Injury ?
He who laughs last, thinks slowest
"Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name"
"Really love your peaches, want to shake your tree"
Didn't Garrett graduate from a ivy school
Then why is he so damn dumb? Maybe he should go back to school coaching 101 take a class this offseason.
It is becoming clear, he got in because his dad was the coach...
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
Find it strange that you come around during the loses and bash Garrett.
But I’m sure that you weren’t bashing him during the victories.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
never have liked Garrett
always loved the team
He's our coach deal with it or root for the Eagles.
They need bandwagon fans… I’m sure you can help them out.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
come up with new words some
I think you don’t know a damn thing about football so be it kid.
ok now 2b philosophical
the cowboys are playing as predicted. every year has wacky endings. we need 3 more star players to be SB competitive.
I do hope I'm not bunched in with the idiots coming out in droves when we lose
I’m just a lurker to amped up to sleep :(
not only newman
but we need to replace spencer. D-ware goes out with an injury a few times throughout the game and you think spencer would step up and make a play? No course thats asking too much….we have one legit pass rusher on this defense, one and that doesn’t help matter when we got a secondary that couldn’t cover the lawn chairs in my backyard
to be honest, he almost got to Kolb several times
like when he almost sacked him before he threw it to Hyphen. Good thing sacks count just as much as 2 yard losses on the run or he would be useless
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 4, 2011 7:24 PM CST up reply actions
None if this matters....
I know it may feel good for everyone to vent…same for the Giants fans. We all need to face reality….each of our teams has a few more games to play and then whoever limps into the playoffs will get their ass beat.
The Arizona Cardinals….are you kidding me….if we are a legit team it shouldn’t even be close….we are healthy and have incentive to win and lay an egg. Kevin Kolb is not good and hasn’t played in forever. WE SUCK…WILL ARE NOT CONTENDERS. Our offense is average at best….against an average defense we can’t move the ball or protect the quarterback.
Nothing to get excited about.
"How bout them Cowboys!"
we both should hope
we can tighten up in december and carry on the roll into the play offs, but it’s high time for both teams. huge game, humongous, next week
by Elv on Dec 4, 2011 7:25 PM CST up reply actions
Good lord...
Go root for the Eagles.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
You go root for the Eagles! You tell enough other people to. Sheish.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
hard to not come to the same conclusion this sunday evening
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
btw is typing buck but meaning something else
really enough not to get banned?
Maybe we should all flag all of those posts?
I’m sure our youngest readers can translate enough to see the lack of class.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
I would agree
The Boys lost but foul language or the insinuation of it really isn’t called for
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 4, 2011 7:26 PM CST up reply actions
news flash
we still control our own destiny
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
Think Jason Garrett is in hiding
I would be if i was him.
Good lord...
Go root for the Eagles.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
you've got a cream puff schedule and you still choke half the season away in every conceivable way
by CornDogScandal on Dec 4, 2011 7:27 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
x
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
Wow. I almost replied to that guy.
And then I saw your pic and that gave me enough pause to realize that the troll is a troll.
Thanks Kevin.
"I'm huunngray. I want some f**ken french tooast!"
winning 4 of 5 of the cream puff games is hardly considered choking
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
what about blowing a 24 point lead at home?
or icing your own kicker? or gagging against the Jets? or, my favorite, playing conservative field position down the stretch against Tom Brady? what other ways can you possibly choke?
by CornDogScandal on Dec 4, 2011 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
But they've also won at SF in OT, had a game winning drive against Miami and Washington
beat Washington in OT, so the law of averages have balanced out. Why is the standard for the Cowboys that they are expected to win every close game?
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
Well, I'll tell you why
when your there at the end, and you ARE going to win it, and then it doesn’t count, it’s unexpected. Because we expected to win, because we did win, except our coach had a brain freeze and completely negated the win. So we, as fans, got something we didn’t expect.
Love this place
Nobody puts up with the haters and negative bandwagon fans! its like we band together to push them away… Haven’t seen mensa today, that’s a victory
That overtime victory caused him a bout with Priapism.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
he has the menses...
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
I am sorry, I hate losing this way to these kind of teams
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
Don't blame you
I guess I just don’t feel the emotional impact of this game
Hey now, Romo got to learn under Quincy Carter, Testaverde and Bledsoe. Which is like a human child being raised by a wolf. -DavidH22
If Romulus can do it, so can Romo. ....WAIT A MINUTE - NYHORN
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
our secondary sucks, spencer can never be a compliment to Ware
i’ve gotten over it and accepted it. Somehow they are 7-5 with injuries. My expectations were too high to start this season
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 4, 2011 7:31 PM CST up reply actions
My thoughts exactly
Hey now, Romo got to learn under Quincy Carter, Testaverde and Bledsoe. Which is like a human child being raised by a wolf. -DavidH22
If Romulus can do it, so can Romo. ....WAIT A MINUTE - NYHORN
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
me too
it just doesn’t mean everything is awful any more that if we had won it everything would be great. I understand the tendency to overreaction, but some people completely go off the deep end.
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
We all do, but hang in there.. we'll be okay.. keep positive, keep fighting
From what I’ve seen from this team this year I know the team is already looking ahead to the Giants and put this one behind them
is Jason Garrett a hall of fame coach
Jerry sign this guy to a 10 year deal
Good lord...
Go root for the Eagles.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
That's a strawman if I ever heard one
JG doesn’t suck so he’s obviously a HOF coach
Hey now, Romo got to learn under Quincy Carter, Testaverde and Bledsoe. Which is like a human child being raised by a wolf. -DavidH22
If Romulus can do it, so can Romo. ....WAIT A MINUTE - NYHORN
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
Just because they are a bad team doesn't mean they can't exploit a weakness.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
Hell yeah
They matched up against us really well. They could rush 3 and get to the QB, and no WRs were open. If we get Austin back next week we’ll have him back one game too late
Hey now, Romo got to learn under Quincy Carter, Testaverde and Bledsoe. Which is like a human child being raised by a wolf. -DavidH22
If Romulus can do it, so can Romo. ....WAIT A MINUTE - NYHORN
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
He's a ROOKIE coach
Keep that in mind…
He’s made some bad decisions but it’s not wise to think he will continue for the next 3-7 years. If he does, then he’ll be fired (you can be sure of that).
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 4, 2011 7:30 PM CST up reply actions
Andy Reid was making bad decisions like that after 10 years as a head coach
and at least until this year he has been considered a top coach in the league
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
Well, what do you call
a veteran player or coach who’s been good for a while but suddenly doesn’t perform at he did in the past. Washed up?
What do you call a new player or coach who’s shown some promise but makes bad decisions.
I call them a rookie
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 4, 2011 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
Look up logical fallacies and find the term "strawman."
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
Three straight games where we have close games with weak teams.
This isn’t a playoff team. Next week, we face the Giants who looked hot against the Packers. I’m not liking next week at all.
~Texas Massacre '09~
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by TheHeat on Dec 4, 2011 7:30 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
we aint that good yet
Nobody cares about your effin fantasy team, keep it to yourself...........Lock n Load
Our wins, except for the Niners, have been against teams with losing records.
Let’s face it we have a ways to go.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
Same can be said for the Gmen
Only team with winning record they have beaten this year is the Pats……
He who laughs last, thinks slowest
"Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name"
"Really love your peaches, want to shake your tree"
any given sunday
you either win or you lose or you think you’ve won but your hc called a time out and then you lose anyway ;o(
by Elv on Dec 4, 2011 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
How weak are they?
Miami – won 4 of last 5. Arizona – won 4 of last 5.
by Baked Potato Soup on Dec 5, 2011 2:54 AM CST up reply actions
We wont underestimate the Giants now ... next weeks game will be
best barometer of where the 2011 Cowboys stand. I’m expecting a lot from the Cowboys next week, to prove how much “heart” (and brains) they really have.
You bet they are looking forward to the giants too. I don't see anybody on this team feeling sorry for themselves
They’ll just come back work harder and fight harder. I see heart in this team. Bailey was a little sad but im sure somebody will go up to him and tell him that he’s won us bunch of games and we’ll need him. And he’ll also be back stronger. Belief in each other, it’s an underrated part of being a team. Don’t believe me? Ask the eagles?
I hate to say it, but if you have to wait until week 14 to determine what a team is, especially when they are so inconsistently up and down, they are just that:
Inconsistent. In other words, probably not hoisting a Lombardi this year.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
Five games back I don't think any one would have put money on us going 5-0
It’s just gutting that a few seconds from doing just that we shot ourselves in the foot and my fear is that this will carry over, I know you are trying to fight off negativists and trolls, but don’t you worry a little bit about that or do you really think this will all be forgotten by the time we step out onto the field v the giants?
I don't
Jason Garrett has installed a new mantra with this team. Focus on today. And as long as they do that, we stand a chance.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
my worry is that the guy boring everyone with that mantra
just made a bigger fool of himself than if he dropped his pants and started doing the chicken dance, I hope he has enoiugh credit in the locker room by now to get away with it
by Elv on Dec 4, 2011 7:35 PM CST up reply actions
LOL...
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
that mantra will mean nothing if JG keeps this crap up,,, trust me on that one ....
woman !, don't try to understand em, don't try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
(redskins)= A Tale of 2 owners, bought by Snyder, OWNED by the COWBOYS
Id say RIP Al Davis, but i know your up there drunker than a monkey and clocking angels in the 40 yd dash.
What we have seen so far this season is they have generally bounced back from losses
and you are quite right, 5 weeks ago I hoped we could go 5-0 but realistically figure 4-1 was about right
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
Yeah, if you said that after the Jets or Lions game I would have agreed
But they have shown they are resilient and bounce back really good. This will only make this last stretch more exciting. We’ll come out on top
HOW DO YOU ICE YOUR OWN KICKER!?
SERIOUSLY! I CAN’T CAPITALIZE THIS ENOUGH TO EMOTE HOW PISSED I STILL AM!
"When I die, I want the Philadelphia Eagles to be the pallbearers at my funeral. So they can let me down, one last time" - Anonymous Eagles fan on 2011 season
Speak up I can't hear u
Nobody cares about your effin fantasy team, keep it to yourself...........Lock n Load
funny guy
ha ha ha ha ha Dire Wolf made a funny he he he he he ah ha ha ha ha ha
Says the guy with the all caps name......
Just kidding, dire. You’re a good dude.
"I'm huunngray. I want some f**ken french tooast!"
So go break something?
Where’s the evidence that icing the kicker has any effect?
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
It works? Really?
Or you just remember it when it “works”? And when there’s a failure on the aborted attempt, followed by a make after the “icing”? Completely forgotten.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
Yes it does
I’m an AAU basketall coach and if you go with the presumption that free throws are made at a rate of about 80% normally (and about 75% in situations less than 10 seconds), then it does.
I’m going by the #s….
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 4, 2011 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
I'll admit
I don’t know the stats associated w/ FGs but the logic would seem to hold true.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 4, 2011 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
He took the timeout, at the moment that seemed like the safest thing to do
having his two coaches in his ear telling him to take it…
Besides, are you a sooth sayer that knew he’ll make the second one and not the next one?
I didn't know he'd even GET a 1st one
But when the TO was taken, I thought AZ had called it. Didn’t think much to it. But when I found that Dallas had taken it, I immediately wondered why it wasn’t called 15 secs earlier so that the Boys could run another play to get closer.
But, calling a TO due to your asst coach telling you to is bad to me. JG needs to have the situational awareness to know that a TO at that point (with adequate tmie on the playclock, etc.) might not be best. I could see it if the Boys had only 10 players on the field, but that wouldn’t be the 1st time they’ve run a ST play w/ 10 players.
All I’m sayin is that if Bailey goes out an misses and a TO isn’t called, it’s all good, he just missed. But if he misses AFTER JG calls a TO, it oloks bad.
You honestly don’t agree?
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 4, 2011 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
I'm glad he trusts his special teams specialists
To make special special teams decisions. I mean, would it be surprising to you if they had a better understanding of the psychology of a kicker?
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
let's be real
I’m aware that the TO did not cause Bailey to miss the FG as there are several different factors to be considered. The hold, the crowd noise, hell even the air blowing from the air conditioning system. But, most of all, it’s the manner Bailey struck the ball.
I don’t know what the specific reason or reasons are but the ball didn’t go through the uprights. The TO COULD have been a contributing factor.
But if you don’t call a TO at the point, then NOT calling one is certainly not going to contribute as it’s the natural timing of the game. If Bailey needs a TO before every kick, then there’s something wrong.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Dec 4, 2011 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
Really? The psychology of their kicker was on their minds?
You sound so dumb right now.
The fact of the matter is, if there was no time out called, the ball would have been hiked, and kicked through the uprights.
Instead, a TO that should have been called as soon as Dez came down with the ball was called right before our kicker drilled the game-winner instead. After which, we tried to kick it again, and it missed.
This is fact.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
by jakezze01 on Dec 4, 2011 9:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It worked this time
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
Hard to tell
I don’t know if anyone ever iced their own kicker before.
My TV is lucky it survived the day
"When I die, I want the Philadelphia Eagles to be the pallbearers at my funeral. So they can let me down, one last time" - Anonymous Eagles fan on 2011 season
by Blue Eyed Devil on Dec 4, 2011 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
I keep lots of small pillows handy so I don't break anything.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
You only say that because he actually nailed a kick
On a free shot with no pressure.
Hey now, Romo got to learn under Quincy Carter, Testaverde and Bledsoe. Which is like a human child being raised by a wolf. -DavidH22
If Romulus can do it, so can Romo. ....WAIT A MINUTE - NYHORN
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
Love the so called fans that never complain
That makes them in there mind think they are better fans. Thats what these forums are for to vent. Don’t see how you can’t be upset as a fan of this team after this loss today. Giants coming up next they haven’t lost in Dallas new stadium since it opened. This Cowboys team hasn’t really looked great in awhile. Secondary, offensive line, special teams has struggled some. Coaching today in my mind blew this game big time. Giants looked good today in there loss. Total opposite for this Cowboys team didn’t look good at all. Hopefully Miles Austin comes back and Fia he is a great fullback.
Self restraint definitely makes you a horrible fan.
And being optimistic? Oh Em Gee.
That’s almost as bad as NOT complaining about everything.
My goodness, we have such horrible fans.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
by CotySaxman on Dec 4, 2011 7:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't bother
It’s not worth it
Hey now, Romo got to learn under Quincy Carter, Testaverde and Bledsoe. Which is like a human child being raised by a wolf. -DavidH22
If Romulus can do it, so can Romo. ....WAIT A MINUTE - NYHORN
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
nothing wrong with venting
fans do it all the time son
If I were your "son" I might be warped enough to agree.
But have some class. Let the “buck” stop here, eh?
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
I don't blame people for venting
I’m frustrated and have lots to criticize, and I don’t feel that confident about next week… but there’s a difference between that and the total over-reaction, like folks calling for JG to be fired when he has us in first place. Don’t have to be all positive, but isn’t all negative either.
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
I keep seeing people reference this.
Find me a quote that says, “JG should be fired.”
Don’t worry, I’ll wait.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
Found one near the bottom. In my defense, I hadn't got that far yet.
But I still don’t see this happening at an alarming rate, by any means
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
I still cannot believe what I witnessed
He iced his own kicker.
And that was after wasting 15 seconds to spike the ball when he had two timeouts.
Horrid, horrid clock management. A fireable offense.
Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.
be carefull with that kind of talk
everything is great in Cowboys land according to some lol i agree by the way Bayou
You are Mensa aren't you?
Either that or all trolls have a secret code of dialogue
Hey now, Romo got to learn under Quincy Carter, Testaverde and Bledsoe. Which is like a human child being raised by a wolf. -DavidH22
If Romulus can do it, so can Romo. ....WAIT A MINUTE - NYHORN
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
you stalking me son?
no need to reply then shut ur mouth
Did I hit a nerve?
What was that response?
Hey now, Romo got to learn under Quincy Carter, Testaverde and Bledsoe. Which is like a human child being raised by a wolf. -DavidH22
If Romulus can do it, so can Romo. ....WAIT A MINUTE - NYHORN
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
tough internet guy
Nobody cares about your effin fantasy team, keep it to yourself...........Lock n Load
I know beerman, some believe this team is above criticism
The end of the game clock management was pitiful. That’s the bottom line.
If Miami & Washington could kick FG’s this would be three losses in a row,
Look out next week.
Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.
If we could kick fg this would be the third win in a row?
Why do we decide to look at it on the negative side? Yes, they messed up today but how about they’re still in sole possesion of first place??
Because today was undeniably an awful, stupid loss
But then it’s December. This is what the Cowboys do in December.
Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.
Recent? In December? That's really your take?
2010 – Romo out for the year, Kitna starting, HC/DC fired.
2009 – 3 wins, 2 losses in December and a playoff win.
2008 – Romo out in mid season, Brad Johnson staring, and Romo returns at the end.
How exactly does that translate to “what the Cowboys do in December”?
"I'm huunngray. I want some f**ken french tooast!"
Being in first place during week 13 doesn't mean anything. Shut up with all this optimistic bs.
If you knew anything about football, you would not be happy with this team’s performance. Not one part of it. Every facet of the game was flawed today.
You f%#$@ing homers are really being blindly ignorant tonight.
We should expect more from our team than this. We should demand it when we don’t get it.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
unfortunately or fortunately depending on your take
the players are not accountable to us, the fans. We can demand all we want but it’s all just a bunch of hot air. I wish we did have more of a voice, more of an ability to affect change but the reality is that we’ll keep watching, keep rooting, keep spending our hard-earned cash to support our team. We’ll rejoice and suffer with the wins and losses respectively and we’ll have very different ways to express our fandom, frustrations, and opinions. I’ll take the progress of this year over the lackluster 2010 season any day. Sure, players and coaches will make some mistakes along the way. I just prefer to enjoy the ride rather than complain about the potholes.
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
by CDMac24 on Dec 4, 2011 10:23 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
And you have every right to do so. I commend you in never voicing disappointment. It must be tough.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
oh I'm disappointed
to be sure. Lost opportunity to separate from the pack some and give ourselves some breathing room. I’m definitely disappointed. I take Cowboys’ losses as irrationally poorly as any fan I know. I often worry about my mental health because of my fandom. (j/k). I understand everyone’s complaints and frustrations. I would have called the timeout after Dez’s catch too. At the end of today we are in first place in the NFC with 4 more games to either win the division or pack our bags for Cancun. This team still has a lot of room to improve and I hope to enjoy the ride with the rest of you. All that said, I think we should fire everyone and let the BtB crew run the Cowboys.
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
by CDMac24 on Dec 4, 2011 10:50 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
I want to add...
I know that no matter how much moaning and groaning I do, it will never most likely never reach anyone of any authority within the Cowboys organization who can do anything to quell my complaints. I guess the “demand” part I mentioned was more of internal thing. I mean, this is the Cowboys we’re talking about, right? America’s Team?
The bar has been set.
There’s no room for complacency.
There should be no excuses.
The only part of what you said that I don’t agree with is this:
I’ll take the progress of this year over the lackluster 2010 season any day.
The bar was not set for me at “anything above or better than 2010”, so I cannot agree with you. I want more, but also understand it’s not always going to be smooth sailing. I just want the things within control to be correctly controlled, and random occurrences dealt with in a logical fashion.
Progress or not, there are fundamental things that are wrong or odd…inexplicable occurrences that keep happening within this organization- and make no mistake, they permeate all the way through the organization, from top to bottom. From the owner himself to the staff under him to the employee hiring/firings to media headlines involving players and general media spotlight, etc etc etc., and for some strange reason they somehow manifest onto the field and take many forms- bad bounces, for a while it was missed fgs, poor tackling, odd interceptions, inconsistent line play, a safety losing the WR running next to him who just caught the ball, a running back being stripped for a TD in the seconds before halftime on an inexplicable play call during a rivalry game, more recently it was a running back losing a perfect touchdown pass thrown to him, and then of course the mismanaged clock/timeout situation earlier. I could name more, but won’t. Fact is, it’s insane sometimes!
I though, for one, see a pattern. Not in the things that happen, of course. I mean, the crazy part is, these occurrences are completely random, odd, fluke things…but they happen so often it’s almost expected that a random, odd, fluke thing is going to happen. I look around and I don’t see these things happening near as much to other teams, nor do I see other teams play in close games (margin within < three points) near as often as the Cowboys.
I just want to know why. lol
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
the problem i think for most is ....
through the years …last 15 a lot of us has ben grasping at anything this team does positive in hope that it leads to a chain of good enough to make the playoffs, and we just might this year. But make no mistake, there is 2 road stops at this point that we dont have a prayer to win. too many question marks still on this team . damn T-New just had to join Ball in suktitude valley. It will def take another good draft and FA and UDFA finds next year to solve some of this. Even then some of these players will take time to become good enough. So we dont have any other choice than to just watch or not……
woman !, don't try to understand em, don't try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
(redskins)= A Tale of 2 owners, bought by Snyder, OWNED by the COWBOYS
Id say RIP Al Davis, but i know your up there drunker than a monkey and clocking angels in the 40 yd dash.
That's a strawman if I ever saw one. No one says there shouldn't be criticism of what just
happened but all this hyperbole about how they’re done with the Cowboys, JG needs to be fired…etc is over-the-top-victim-of-the-moment thinking
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
by ScottB1985 on Dec 4, 2011 8:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Good lord...
Go root for the Eagles.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
I agree that it was bad clock management, but firing him is a bit of a knee-jerk. Look at how he has turned this team around. I would take a Garrett-coached team over a Wade-coached team any day.
by me gusta on Dec 4, 2011 7:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I didn't say to fire Garret (although it wouldn't break my heart)
I said it was a fireable offense.
That was high school level stuff out there tonight, at the end of both halves . . .
Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.
and you're 100% correct in saying that
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
one sec guys...Faith says she has some little song and dance she wants to do for me...brb
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Dec 4, 2011 7:33 PM CST reply actions
Yep I do not get it
So frustrating to lose to that trash
by scandrick32 on Dec 4, 2011 7:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
12 carries at 3 yards each.
Versus Felix getting 8 for 6 yards each.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
so?
See Miami game, Murray gets it done especially when he has to.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
He has. Once or twice.
You think it’s impossible for Felix to be better matched against a particular defense?
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
Yes. Felix is not a good RB.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
All purpose back you mean. He’s a decent back-up.
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
yes yet he was featured more than Murray for some odd reason
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
6 for 36 vs 12 for 32
he didn’t get more carries, but he did get more yards.
12 carries for Murray, 8 for Felix.
And Felix did more with his. How is that featured more? You mean he DID more? That I believe.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
No it seemed though their numbers look alike
that felix was in more plays. After the last drive against miami I think Murray deserves the important carries no matter how bad his avg is. It only takes one run to make it change
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
Okay. Success was a fluke, clearly.
He must be horrible, considering he’s been kept around and given opportunities by the same coaching staff that drafted Murray. But I see you found your scapegoat.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
I really hope we draft good defensive players this year
I love the Cowboys, but our secondary is killing us.
by me gusta on Dec 4, 2011 7:36 PM CST via mobile reply actions
yeah secondary
just not lookin good. Thought Jenkins played well though.
I was going to root for Lions but will now root for Saints.
At least we are still in 1st place. If we don’t beat the Giants then we just don’t plain deserve to be in playoffs. But I still think we can take them.
QUICK POINTS:
1. Jenkins and Scandrick are our best corners.
2. We need Fiametta.
3. Did Folk have a point when he complained about McBriar’s holds?
4. ST coaches told Garrett to call timeout. They should explain themselves.
5. With the exception of DWare our pass rush is questionable. Perhaps we should blitz more??
Lots of gut wrenching wins and heart breaking losses this year. It’s always the same with these cowards when we lose. Blame Romo. Blame Garret. Blame Jerry Jones.
but why didn't garrett use a timeout
with 22 second left to get it closer for Bailey?
1. might be why we extended scandrick that early, newman probably won’t be back
2. painfully obvious
3. I’ve been thinking that a long time
4. buck stops with the HC
5. I still can’t whine about the D, 13 pts in regulation
by Elv on Dec 4, 2011 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
been hanging by a thread
the last couple weeks, finally caught up. 13 points isn’t going to cut it. Having 2 timeouts and not using them is not going to cut it either. Inexcusable time management. You practice all week, game plan, practice some more and then fall flat on your face (coaches that is).
can't we not just post that gif of the girl in her underwear
so i can pretend we won and go to bed
Wow
A Cowboys loss and no one is blaming Romo? Had hell frozen over?
Tough loss, they should have won it. Now time to regroup and take it out on the Giants. Their WRs vs our secondary scares me, so they NEED to pressure Eli all damn day. Time for a new winning streak!!
by Dub_TC on Dec 4, 2011 7:38 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Ha good luck. This is a bend don't break Defense that can't get constient pressure without blitzing and can't cover for more than 2seconds
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
Luckily the giants defense isn’t that good either. it is shaping up to be a shootout
by Dub_TC on Dec 4, 2011 7:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Okay. So how did the offenses compare this weekend?
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
can't blame Romo he played well
this is on the coaches
Nope, there some posts here that drags him.
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
I agree
I was really really mad at first, but after I have calmed down I am trying to look at it reasonably. It sucked and a lot of people made mistakes, but let’s learn from it and try to improve as much as we can for the Giants. Because if we play like we did today, we will get killed.
by me gusta on Dec 4, 2011 7:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I have just accepted the fact that the cowboys will always have losses is like this. This is the type of team they are. They will look really good 1 week and then look terrible the next. But as of right now they are in first place by 1 whole game. I am satisfied with that. But like you said if they don’t play like that next week, they will get crushed.
by Dub_TC on Dec 4, 2011 7:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If they play like that, I mean. Stupid phone.
by Dub_TC on Dec 4, 2011 7:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Thats a fact
We could go 1-3 the last 4.hate to be negative but Eli can put up points and Vick already killed us.TB could be our only win
could also go 4-0 in the last 4
but then that’s why they play the games don’t they?
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
i agree Oshawa
Giants have beat Dallas the last two years or something i think in Dallas.
We split with them last year. JG beat them in NY in his first game as HC.
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
unless you're nostradamus, we could go anywhere from 0-4 to 4-0
then again nostradamus was full of sh*t ;)
by Elv on Dec 4, 2011 7:42 PM CST up reply actions
nostradamus also says we could go 1-3, 3-1, or 2-2
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
I hope we see the screen game finally next week.
Baffling we did nothing to slow down the Cards pass rush. And getting sacked with the cards only rushing 3 is smh
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
I'll bet we do
That’s a good way to make their pass rush back off so we can exploit their secondary. Oh yeah, and our O-line will have to actually block against NYG.
Wins are the best medicine...the ultimate cure-all.
the way the Giants played
they’ll beat us by 2 tds next week – hoping this game took a lot out of them. We will not beat them scoring 13 points.
Giants will score in the 30's on our D
We’d have to win a shootout
Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.
But if Dallas gets Austin back
And Fia at fullback should be good
sticks and stones my friend
u little internet bully lmfao
OMG!!!! brilliant
Nobody cares about your effin fantasy team, keep it to yourself...........Lock n Load
whatever, that's dumb, the idiots are back, you're the moron, he's an idiot, he's pure idiot, go away fool, idiot, It's clear he knows nothing about football, tough internet guy
the troll under this bridge is trying to get you to pay his toll.
I only show up to mock other posters, jeer at the writing here, and make strange complaints about internet culture.
Half Blood Prince
Just what the Dr. ordered.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
True
But we have not seen a dominant game since and they were on the slide already
good point
i don’t know anymore. This team has struggled in December and this obviously isn’t a good start.
Mr "situational football" needs to take responsibility
The timeout call doesnt anger me nearly as much as not calling a timeout after dez’s catch and trying to get more yards! Thats unnaceptable. they had just witnessed bailey miss one long kick and get lucky making another off the cross bar. Yet he was fine sitting on two timeouts and kicking a 49 yard fg? WTF type of thinking is that.
"Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk"
i've tried to make that point
but some of the fans in here will jump on your thinking like that. I don’t know how i can blame Garrett for this loss lol.
And if there was a turnover after that timeout?
Right.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
you can't think like that come on
you got to try to get more yards for your kicker. A 49 yarder is obviously no gimmie.
Exactly.
"Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk"
by sprewelllatrell on Dec 4, 2011 7:47 PM CST up reply actions
Cmon man.
2 part question....
Eli Manning sucks and
go f@#k yourself!
(Tosh.O "crying Giants fan")
by Wayward Irish on Dec 4, 2011 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
If you're going to worry about a turnover every on every play, don't play the game
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
again about the unused TO's
the only reason can be a fear of a fumble right, it’s a judgement call that he probaly got wrong, just like the “icing” TO.
the more i think about it, i can’t believe bailey missed it by that much
he didnt miss it by much. another 5-10 yards and that same kick makes it.
they could have called a play action after dezs catch, the cards would be looking for a run up the gut. wtf
"Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk"
by sprewelllatrell on Dec 4, 2011 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
Give it a day or two.
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
garrett doesn’t seem right to me sometimes…i think hes running a tight ship and we have seriously escalated to a stronger mentality…but on the flip side..garret makes me question his degree in an ivy league…they guy needs a gut the guy needs a risk taking course and time managing course…we seriously could have played better on offense..we looked very moronic
13 points against the Cards
is pathetic i agree. Alot of Jason Garrett’s play calling makes no sense to me.
about the running backs
how much did murray do before running over miami at the enf of the last drive last week, we fed him and he came good, why go away from that game plan?
Also, Orlando Scandrick deserves to be slapped for his 2 blocks in the back penalties
the one at the end of the game took the ball from the cardinals 25 and back to our 30.Baily would have been in close range and or the cowboys would have scored a td there. But no Scandrick has to run into someones back TWICE in one game. Just get the F… out of the way
"Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk"
How are we paying this guy $4-5 million a year?
"When I die, I want the Philadelphia Eagles to be the pallbearers at my funeral. So they can let me down, one last time" - Anonymous Eagles fan on 2011 season
by Blue Eyed Devil on Dec 4, 2011 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
I was gonna say Newman too.
But he always deserves to get slapped.
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
I actually thought those calls on him were kind of dumb
Especially the second one where the guy just stopped and pretty much ran into him. I am far angrier with Newman and his boneheaded mistakes.
by me gusta on Dec 4, 2011 7:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
RHG? Maybe we can stop using that term now.
Hey, we’re playing Arizona and we should win, so let’s try some new tricks! NO! Bad Jason! Just run the ball a lot and play good defense. So if you want to prove you’re smart then play dumb football and run it. RUN IT. John Fox is winning with Tim Tebow by running the ball and playing good defense. You just lost to ARIZONA, GENIUS! You know what else? John Fox, Wade Phillips, and MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of people, even those in countries that think football is an entirely different sport would know better than to ICE THEIR OWN KICKER!!! PS. RUN THE FOOTBALL!
True everytime i see highlights of the Cowboys game today
Announcers are laughing after the last 30 seconds or so. Dallas had 2 timeouts but they decide to not run another play and try a 49 yard field goal which is no gimmie. Then of course Bailey kicks it right down the middle and you see Garrett running to the ref to call time out. Something you would usually only see if the opposing kicker is kicking. Course i do see Joe D running up to Garrett to call a timeout i don’t know. What a disappointing end to this game though.
classic quote TC
PS RUN THE FOOTBALL!! Too funny…
by tonyunclejohnny on Dec 4, 2011 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
Fisrt 2 picks
A CB and a Rushing LB or DE.Then lets get a center or if Konz is there take him
A good corner is useless unless we also get a pass rush.
We need to go back to back and give this defense a chance.I would really like a top center as well as Costa is not cutting it
by Oshawa Cowboy on Dec 4, 2011 7:59 PM CST up reply actions
Pass rush is not the problem
we had 5 sacks today, we couldn’t cover a baby with a blanket thats the problem
Billion dollar dream and hundred dollar nightmares
i just don't get
How on 3rd and 5’s we are giving 15 yard cushions
by Oshawa Cowboy on Dec 4, 2011 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
because the corners suck
any time they pressed up they got burned over the top or committed a penalty
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 4, 2011 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
ok I see all sensible people have left before me
peace out ’boys
me too, but he had a rough game today
Nobody cares about your effin fantasy team, keep it to yourself...........Lock n Load
I do too. The guy can't make every single kick.
Anybody want Beuhler back? Me neither.
by me gusta on Dec 4, 2011 7:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
im mad cause theres no victory Shay!!!
its preseason watch the players individually. igor is garbage!
by yehti on Dec 4, 2011 7:57 PM CST via mobile reply actions
For some reason, I feel like we were a bit overconfident
I understand we don’t want to rush Miles back, but to think we could afford this game with him was being a bit overconfident. Also, I understand they were stacking the line, but we were 2 to 1 passes to rushes. Why did we feel the need to involve Felix so much? His yards per carry were better, but don’t we need to feed the ball to Murray? No passes to Murray that I can think of. This game felt weird at the onset and never changed.
Yeah
The way arz was racing up the field to get romo, you’d think a screen or two would work. I don’t remember any screen calls
Next week is now critical
If the Giants win they will be tied for the division lead. Their 2 games after that are extremely winnable Jets and Redskins. We have to play tough games against the Eagles and Tampa Bay.
Gotta’ win next week or we’re in deep trouble.
"When I die, I want the Philadelphia Eagles to be the pallbearers at my funeral. So they can let me down, one last time" - Anonymous Eagles fan on 2011 season
its not about faith.......its reality......even if we win....this team is not up to par with Green bay or New Orleans...
still too many wholes in the D, the oline is not ready and the WR’s are not on cue with the qb’s…….as sad as it is…..I hope for better draft position after the last 5 weeks…….we’ve veen winning vut too close against crappy opponents…….
We are still improving though
If you look at this team last year, where did you think we would be right now? We are in a kind of mini rebuild because wade killed our team, and I think that leading the division at this point in the season is an impressive improvement. Of course there will be holes, we’ve only had one draft and a lockout shortened off season to fix everything. Let’s see where we are next year and see if we have continued to get better. I am happy with where we are compared to last year.
by me gusta on Dec 4, 2011 8:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe this is all for the best
maybe JG and JJ will realize just how weak we are
by Oshawa Cowboy on Dec 4, 2011 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe, they will realize we need an OC...
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
+10000000
I’ve seen enough of JG’s play calling and clearly he cannot manage the clock and call plays at the same time.
He’s no Sean Payton, Princeton or not.
Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.
We need an infusion of young talent.
Norv would be nice too. If RR leaves for a HC job, Spagnola would be a nice replacement.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
I think that JG realized it already.
He changed the O-line. He hired a new D-coordinator. He drafted a workhorse back. The next 2 drafts are critical to their success.
It depends on which o line shows up
They are hot and cold, which is very frustrating.
by me gusta on Dec 4, 2011 8:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
13 pts. in regulation IS pretty amazing
It’s our offense that sucks
Just becuz you put yer boots in the oven don't make it bread
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Dec 4, 2011 8:05 PM CST reply actions
What was JG's offensive game plan?
Any ideas from what happened in the first three series?
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
That's a question I can't answer
What I’d like to know is when it’s obvious that your footing is questionable and you have multiple players slip sliding away and missing key plays, did you remember to pack other shoes for that situation? That was fixable and those opportunities were critical and lost to us later on. And what the heck was wrong with Dez today? How many balls did he drop?
Just becuz you put yer boots in the oven don't make it bread
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Dec 4, 2011 8:12 PM CST up reply actions
Two, I think...
but, he wasn’t the problem… On balance, I thought he had a good day… He came up big on the catch at the end of the game. That was a tough catch, against double coverage. Peterson was playing outside (trailing) and they had a safety over the top ready to crash down on the deep dig (cross). Dez did a good job of crossing the face of the safety after he beat Peterson to the break point of the route.
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
by LDVFootball on Dec 4, 2011 8:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes he did come through
Honestly games like these are so hard to take. We just didn’t need to lose it. We had it won. It would have been ugly like the last 3, but dang it, it was won. We kicked the fg. This one’s on the coaching staff, plain and simple. I hate to say it, but JG doesn’t have all the skills necessary for real contention. Not this year. When those types of mistakes, and others, and they tend to come in bunches, and are painfully obvious to the fans, something is rotten in Denmark. That’s what’s sad
Just becuz you put yer boots in the oven don't make it bread
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Dec 4, 2011 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
this team needs more talent
would u guys agree?
name something u sit in.. chair.. try again.. big chair.. nope that's the same thing try again.. high chair.. that's still a chair.. chair.. say something other than chair.. what if i can't think of anything.. u can pass.. how do i pass.. just say it.. say what.. say pass.. chair
Yep
We need to get DeWare some real company, we need TNew collecting a pension, we need our center replaced, we need to put a few LB out to pasture hoping that Carter can help toward that end. That about sums it up
Just becuz you put yer boots in the oven don't make it bread
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Dec 4, 2011 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
A good center would be a start...
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
He does his best...
He is just not strong enough to anchor… They gave it a try. If they are smart, they will draft someone who can do the job next year.
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
It's better than last year's version but yes, they we'rent very good today
Just becuz you put yer boots in the oven don't make it bread
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Dec 4, 2011 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
i feel bad for ware, romo, witt
their best yrs are being wasted w/ a lot of “mediocre” players & that’s putting it nicely
name something u sit in.. chair.. try again.. big chair.. nope that's the same thing try again.. high chair.. that's still a chair.. chair.. say something other than chair.. what if i can't think of anything.. u can pass.. how do i pass.. just say it.. say what.. say pass.. chair
Don't do that
They are very very very wealthy men, set up for life. I don’t feel sorry for any pro football player, they make more money than I could ever dream about
Just becuz you put yer boots in the oven don't make it bread
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Dec 4, 2011 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
cmon dc that's not what i meant
i’m talking about football wise.. as long as these players don’t kill or rape/molest anyone i don’t care about their personal lives, never have & never will.
name something u sit in.. chair.. try again.. big chair.. nope that's the same thing try again.. high chair.. that's still a chair.. chair.. say something other than chair.. what if i can't think of anything.. u can pass.. how do i pass.. just say it.. say what.. say pass.. chair
Yeah, feel sorry for the fans...
We are the ones who waste some of your best years cheering for a mediocre team and no one pays us to do that…
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
Yes! we are the victims here yes :)
Dark Knight I know what you’re saying. I just see all that money and think wow, no reason to feel sorry for any of them, ha ha.
Just becuz you put yer boots in the oven don't make it bread
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Dec 4, 2011 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know about Witten, Romo, or Ware
But a lot of players care less about a loss than some fans.
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
i do feel srry for the fans
i wish we had a better product on that field for our eyes to see. True a lot of these players are laughing strait to the bank but u know what “we” the consumers are responsible for that.
name something u sit in.. chair.. try again.. big chair.. nope that's the same thing try again.. high chair.. that's still a chair.. chair.. say something other than chair.. what if i can't think of anything.. u can pass.. how do i pass.. just say it.. say what.. say pass.. chair
You got that right
Jerry seems to think that we can be bought off with that fancy new stadium. TBH, I wouldn’t care if they were still playing in the Cotton Bowl, if we could field a real winning team with a winning culture like the Patriots do, year after year after year. JJ seems to have lost his keys for winning that is
Just becuz you put yer boots in the oven don't make it bread
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Dec 4, 2011 8:51 PM CST up reply actions
u know i could care less how nice
of a stadium the boys play in also.. Jerry would make so much more revenue if this team had a winning culture instilled cause winning brings more fans to the equation, i’m not saying my BtB brotherhood are bandwagon fans but ppl in general love winners.
name something u sit in.. chair.. try again.. big chair.. nope that's the same thing try again.. high chair.. that's still a chair.. chair.. say something other than chair.. what if i can't think of anything.. u can pass.. how do i pass.. just say it.. say what.. say pass.. chair
The minimum ROOKIE wage is $340,000.
How many people on this blog make that?
I love my Cowboys, but I do not feel sorry for a single one of them.
"I'm huunngray. I want some f**ken french tooast!"
hmmm
i’m not sure you should question Jerry’s money-generating choices – he’s pretty good at that – remember it’s not just the Cowboys that perform in that stadium – there are boxing matches and concerts and whatever else – plenty of revenue opportunities for him because of the stadium. And the Boys are the most valuable football franchise in the league – win or lose.
f it - rivvid.com
by LucyFur3d on Dec 5, 2011 3:33 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Good point
Just never looked in sync and that OL was getting Romo killed
Well Garrett has moments where I ask WTH is he doing?
Call a timeout with 14 seconds left. Run another run play pick up some yards to make it easier and call another time out. Kick the FG and win. You made it way to complicated. He played what if he doesn’t snap is clean and the clock keeps running game. Don’t worry about the worst. Set yourself up to win not what if’s.
Realist.
did you miss where Costa didn't snap the ball
and cost us 5 yards – he could of been worried about that or another dumb offsides penalty, which we’ve been pretty good at during the worst times possible over recent years
f it - rivvid.com
by LucyFur3d on Dec 5, 2011 3:36 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
1. Gonna have a drink
2. Gonna go shoot some Zombies.
3. Might come back here. But the insanity is running a little too high.
Fear the Star
Romo
can someone explain to me whhy we had two timeouts remaining and Romo rushed to the line to spike the ball? Why not just call one of two timeouts and not worry about rushing off a kick?
Also, he took at least one sack on 3rd down that he absolutely did not need to. He could have run for a first. I like Romo but I feel like everyone has beaten out of him his confidence to scramble for a first.
Also, on that 3rd down completion to Phillips he had a WR open for a sure 1st.
Oh well, I know I am getting picky, but it seemed Romo could have done a better job at the end. Its whats the difference between a good team and a SB team.
"Right after the game, say as little as possible." - Coach Landry
Man if u think Romo was the reason for the lost your bugging
Billion dollar dream and hundred dollar nightmares
Romo should not have hurried to the line only to spike the ball
That’s insane. What is the point of that? Call a timeout, let the kicker set up in a relaxed atmosphere.
And he did miss an open receiver that would have converted that 3rd down and he did take a sack unnecessarily.
"Right after the game, say as little as possible." - Coach Landry
by RisingSunCowboy on Dec 5, 2011 12:49 AM CST up reply actions
After hearing the press conference, I'm letting Romo a little off the hook for not calling a TO.
Big Red is still in the doghouse with me, though. He should have for sure. The whole thing is just very disappointing.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
thanks for your
perspective. I agree that our expectations are exceedingly high because of our winning tradition and history. I too have high expectations for this team annually. I am also perplexed by the fluke incidents that seem to happen regularly to/for our boys. My take on this is the converse to the adage that you make your own good luck. I subscribe to the idea that good luck favors the bold. The corollary to that is that bad luck and misfortune favor the timid. Organizationally, it seems like the team tends to expect good things will come to them because of the star on their helmet rather than going out and forging their own legacy and adding to the Stars’ luster!
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
by CDMac24 on Dec 5, 2011 8:40 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
You nailed it, sir.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
I don't either...
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
Cards have been hot. We've blown out teams that were on the down slop
and played the ones on hot streaks closely
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
The Cards are a terrible team
"When I die, I want the Philadelphia Eagles to be the pallbearers at my funeral. So they can let me down, one last time" - Anonymous Eagles fan on 2011 season
by Blue Eyed Devil on Dec 4, 2011 11:14 PM CST up reply actions
Do NOT say that.
I have tickets to the Tampa game and I am driving 9 hours to get there.
Do NOT kill my buzz.
"I'm huunngray. I want some f**ken french tooast!"
just watched it again,
there were 24 seconds when the play was over and they did NOTHING, dumdfreaking unbelievable. Joe D Freaking Camillias should get on the stand and say what the heck he wanted the timeout for. People get fired in the real world for this crap.
the really bad thing is looking at the reply, Garrett had no idea what was going on. Confused, nobody knew what the heck was going on, 10 days off and they didn’t know they had 2 timeouts or didn’t have someone in they wanted or weren’t able to run a field goal play with a full 40 second playclock.
all the communications in the world between
coaches and they didn’t know what to do after getting a 1st down with 2 FREAKING timeouts remaining.
imagine if this team had a real HC?
JG should be fired TONIGHT! not only for the bonehead mismanagement calls but for refusing year after year to run the ball. 12 touches for DM unbelievable!! Almost every time Romo throws more than 40 times cowboys lose this has been happening throughout JG’s OC tenure, year after year after year. It’s gotta stop. THAT’s why he should be fired. Against ARI to boot! we weren’t even trailing during the game. I really don’t get what is so difficult with sticking with the run. Imagine if we had a Coughlin type coach, who actually knows what he’s doing … Forgot the Boys this year guys, it’s just circumstances we’re in first this late in the year, it’ll correct itself. Starting next week. Can’t even get the players fired up vs a losing team for a 2 game lead in the nfc east… after a 10 day break!… sad….
Nice try
Garrett tried the run game. It kept on failing.
Yes, Garrett is the only coach to lose on the road against a losing team. Clearly he should be fired then banished to the shadow realm
kept on failing??
it kept failing after 12 touches to DM really? vs ARI’s vaunted rush defence?? well if it did the game plan, which he had 10 days to prepare, failed. same difference.
by tonyunclejohnny on Dec 4, 2011 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
not really. cowboys had a team loss and the cards historically have played us tougher than any team..
if you are a real cowboys fan who kept up… then you can realize its just a loss.
If he doesn't fall on his sword after this one
His character and ability to lead this team should be questioned.
This one is on him.
Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.
He gave the company line...
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
That's unfortunate
He could have shown some humility which would have helped with team building.
The more I watch him coach and listen to him talk the less I like him. He has that “I’m the smartest guy in the room aura about him”. And that wears on people.
Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.
He has this philosophy and he thinks it is going to save him...
It might just do that, but he needs help still with the X’s and O’s. For the life of me, I can never figure out why he doesn’t run some common sense plays against certain coverages and pressure packages.
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
Is Garrett secure enough to bring in Turner?
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
I think that we can all agree... the first two words of the headline sum up our team
" Cowboys Blow It, Lose To Cardinals In Overtime 19-13 "
Let’s be honest here: We should attempt to train our players for lawn care or some other similar, useful activity. We do not have a playoff caliber team and they should not be allowed to represent us / embarrass us on national broadcasts.
So sorry that you're embarassed.
Clearly they aren’t worthy of your immense support.
In fact, you’re such a strong fan, the Eagles may make a bid for you in free agency.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
Remind me not to cross swords with you..lol
I started out with nothing and still have most of it left
Just don't make any silly comments :)
Some people…well…they get a little dramatic.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
Verbally Ironic, to be exact.
I feel a little nauseous when I read all of the silliness that comes up after losses.
You, however, have a knack for drama.
Or are you seriously going to exile yourself from this site?
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
Dude, this isn't a college seminar...
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
He's got some of that JG
I’m the smartest guy in the room thing going on.
Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.
Because being the smartest guy in the room is a bad thing?
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." -Niels Bohr
For some people, Princeton was their safety school...
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
Can't say that I'm one of those people.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." -Niels Bohr
I am...
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
Where did you attend?
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." -Niels Bohr
Yale
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
Impressive. What did you major in?
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." -Niels Bohr
Literature...
Having said that, I have as much common sense as JG apparently does…
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
I've discovered that the amount of intellect a person has does not correlate with common sense.
It’s unfortunate.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." -Niels Bohr
I have found a reverse correlation
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
by 2tightendpkg on Dec 4, 2011 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
I think each individual presents a unique case.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." -Niels Bohr
that's because he rarely talks football. Just makes "witty" retorts to the comments he doesn't like.
There are a few of the “high and mighty” around here who like to peacock around with their “big brains” and their “anyone that isn’t praising Romo and the Cowboys is not a fan” attitude.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
by jakezze01 on Dec 4, 2011 9:36 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
This is funny, because it is so true...
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
Nice way to bring Romo into this one
Did he lose the game too?
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
He didn't call a timeout when Dez came down with the ball.
BTW, I wasn’t “bringing Romo into” anything. See how sensitive people are? You can’t even MENTION Romo!
And when you do, they immediately change the subject to Romo to bait you into their stupid f&%#$ing conversations. smh
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
He deferred to the Head Coach
Rarely does Romo call timeouts unless Garrett instructs him to
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
by 2tightendpkg on Dec 4, 2011 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
What are you talking about, mannnnn?
He has every right to call a TO, and does it often without being “instructed” to. Do you really believe he has to get permission?
Wow.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
The Head Coach calls the T.O. in that situation
If you see that your QB didn’t call a TO, and you want one, then you call it.
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
by 2tightendpkg on Dec 4, 2011 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
Let me make this perfectly clear, as I see you're struggling to find the point I'm making:
Either Romo and/or Garrett should have called that timeout. Period.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
People who hate Romo find away to blame every loss on him
He made the pass to Dez, put us in a postition to win, Garrett should have called the T.O. The head coach puts together a plan if they convert or get in field goal range. The QB just doesn’t make random decisions on whether he should spike it or call a T.O.
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
by 2tightendpkg on Dec 4, 2011 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
I don't hate Romo. Nor have I "blamed ANY loss" on him, including this one. Ever.
Now put your Romo crush aside long enough to come to the realization that as the Quarterback, the leader of the offense, it is your job to know the game situation and the best decisions that need to be made in order to win. He did not make them.
It is also the Head Coach’s responsibility to know the game situation, and to make the best decisions in order to secure a W. He did not make them either.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
You can't beat your point across to some.
I got it.
2 part question....
Eli Manning sucks and
go f@#k yourself!
(Tosh.O "crying Giants fan")
by Wayward Irish on Dec 4, 2011 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
you should definitely stop paying their salaries then
forego this game check entirely
f it - rivvid.com
by LucyFur3d on Dec 5, 2011 3:40 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well I think we can all agree we have no chance to ever win another game again,ever.
Unlike any other team in the NFL, our coaches suck, our D sucks, our O and ST teams suck. I feel sorry for us. We’re screwed.
I started out with nothing and still have most of it left
Where is sarcasm font
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
People might start reccing this until it's green
and think you are on their side
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
That would just show their true colors I guess. The emotional responses are over the top after a loss
I started out with nothing and still have most of it left
Didn't watch the Press Conference
Did anyone ask about why he didn’t try to stop the clock and get a closer field goal attempt?
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
I sure hope they don't screw up this kicker like Folk
Having you kick a 50 yarder to win the game after you have already missed a 50 yarder is one thing, but icing your own kicker has to have psychological consequences.
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
So, let's say you're a kicker.
Are you confident that you’re less likely to make a kick after having a practice shot?
I thought having a practice attempt would be a positive thing?
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
I dont know
Who knows what goes on in the heads of a kicker. How do kickers miss chip shot field goals, when this is something that they are professional in.
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
I just don't understand.
People automatically assume that having more time to think, or a practice shot, are bad things. Warped logic.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
ZOMG its on wikipedia already, did one of you do this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icing_the_kicker
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
Hahaha. Exactly why Wikipedia is not a trusted source.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
I like the last part that says it caused us to lose the game
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
I like the part that says between 45-55 yards, there is a 10% decrease in FG success.
Hmmm. 49 yard FG try. Preceded by at least 22 seconds to call a timeout and run at least 3 more plays before putting your kicker on the field.
Epic fail. Double face palm. And all those other internet pictures to describe what Garrett did at the end of regulation.
"I'm huunngray. I want some f**ken french tooast!"
No. Some people think that the time spent thinking about the kick adds pressure. It's not that hard of concept to grasp
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
I wish Jesse Holley tweets
would stop getting on my twitter timeline.
#annoying
Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.
What is he saying?
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
So follow Chris Cooley?
You and him could get along nicely, exchanging agreements after Cowboys losses.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
I don't follow any athletes
I’ll watch them play, I don’t want to hear them talk
Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.
It'll be nice.
Especially when Robinson is the next man up, rather than Ogletree.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
The tree had some good catches in this game...
He was also open on a key third down, but Romo did not see him.
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
Holley made some clutch grabs as well.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
use him sparingly
dont want him getting overexposed. But this team needs Austin back in the worst way to help keep the offense from stalling out like it did so many times today
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 4, 2011 11:25 PM CST up reply actions
ALL HOLLEY DOES IS CATCH PASSES!
Yes, I went all caps.
NO ONE CAN DENY THIS!
"I'm huunngray. I want some f**ken french tooast!"
I was just calmed down, and then nbc started showing replays.
I’m never getting to bed. I’m so mad and disappointed
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
Garrett blew his nose, now his hanky is the smarter ..of the 2.......
woman !, don't try to understand em, don't try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
(redskins)= A Tale of 2 owners, bought by Snyder, OWNED by the COWBOYS
Id say RIP Al Davis, but i know your up there drunker than a monkey and clocking angels in the 40 yd dash.
LOL...
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
this is funny
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
Tony Dungy is questioning Jason Garrett
He just basically just told us why the Packers are winners today and we are losers. God I hope Garrett understands this going forward regardless of what he does or doesn’t admit to us. Because we sure understand it. You did it Garrett. You. Not the Dallas Cowboys. You
Just becuz you put yer boots in the oven don't make it bread
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Dec 4, 2011 9:01 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
he was 100%a correct!
"Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but what you should have accomplished with your ability."
-John Wooden
by eightball on Dec 4, 2011 9:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He was right...
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
what all did he say?
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
See above...
dcfan summed it up quite well…
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
He actually contrasted the sequence of plays between the Cowboys and the Packers
pointing out that the Pack had a much closer fg to accomplish. Said their 58 seconds was all they needed. Hey, this kinda lifts my spirits. Tell you what, I’m gonna convince myself that Jason Garrett lost this game to the Cardinals all by himself. But it doesn’t give me a lot of hope for next week. Because I don’t see him getting smarter in 1 week, if ever. Sorry guys, I’m really depressed about this one, it just didn’t have to happen
Just becuz you put yer boots in the oven don't make it bread
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Dec 4, 2011 9:08 PM CST up reply actions
This team doesn't have much margin for error...
One would expect the head coach of all people to know that. It is one thing to have Romo throw away a game, but to have JG throw away a game is demoralizing…
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
by LDVFootball on Dec 4, 2011 9:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Its so inexplicable
This is what they do for a living.
Everyone of us knew to call time out after the catch.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
by dave33 on Dec 4, 2011 9:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree.
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
he was 100%a correct!
"Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but what you should have accomplished with your ability."
-John Wooden
by eightball on Dec 4, 2011 9:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Garrett is the a$$ clown of the week
Did not use the TO when he should have and then froze his own kicker. Does not take an Ivy league degree to manage the clock at the end of the game. Keep it simple stupid!
"Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but what you should have accomplished with your ability."
-John Wooden
by eightball on Dec 4, 2011 9:02 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I think not taking the TO was the biggest blunder hands down
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
ahh the ole "KISS" saying good call eightball
name something u sit in.. chair.. try again.. big chair.. nope that's the same thing try again.. high chair.. that's still a chair.. chair.. say something other than chair.. what if i can't think of anything.. u can pass.. how do i pass.. just say it.. say what.. say pass.. chair
Garrett made mistakes, good coaches learn from them
bad coaches become Andy Reid
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
Aww, man. I was almost okay with what went down and you had to mention Andy Reid.
The effing poster boy of bad clock management and time out misuse.
Me sad boy.
"I'm huunngray. I want some f**ken french tooast!"
Christ every Cowboys vs Cards highlights
Announcers are laughing at Jason Garrett. Tony Dungy could barely talk he was laughing so hard. Ice your own kicker, don’t call time out and try to get closer for you kicker. I bet money on monday night football on the come on man segment. Jason Garrett calling timeout will be on display lol.
That's definitely getting a c'mon man...
from the man himself, Keyshawn…
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
A little humble pie is never bad for a head coach
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
I wonder how you'll feel should we slip just one game in the division.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
Don't be mad you lost 10k at the blackjack table if you still have
a grand to make a comeback with.
2 part question....
Eli Manning sucks and
go f@#k yourself!
(Tosh.O "crying Giants fan")
by Wayward Irish on Dec 4, 2011 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
haha I like that
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
Yeah, but is the dealer hot?
Chicks love the big spenders.
"I'm huunngray. I want some f**ken french tooast!"
A question to you Garrett lovers
The best part of the offence is clearly Tony Romo keeping another failed play alive. Then turning that broken play into somthing good. In otherwords the broken play is our best play. Thats backyard football. This is the NFL. Garrett is a bad OC.
by cowboy north on Dec 4, 2011 9:09 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Tebow wins with backyard football every week
Favre did it for years
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
So you're saying we should play gimmicky.......
I KNEW that ivy league education would pay dividends one day.
"I'm huunngray. I want some f**ken french tooast!"
That is actually a really astute oberservation
“our best play is a broken play”
How many times have we seen Romo extend a play and receivers breaking off their preconceived routes to extend a drive.
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
go87 if u see nothing wrong w/ the team
that’s fine i have no problem w/ that what i take issue w/ is if nobody is throwing insults ur way please don’t tell other’s how they should react.
name something u sit in.. chair.. try again.. big chair.. nope that's the same thing try again.. high chair.. that's still a chair.. chair.. say something other than chair.. what if i can't think of anything.. u can pass.. how do i pass.. just say it.. say what.. say pass.. chair
should be two
Course Garrett put a stop to that with the timeout but oh well.
wouldn't make a difference if the niners and saints have a better record obviously.
all what matters right now is keeping ahead of division.
uh ok
But still a 2 game lead would be nice. And to give away a game like this will most likely come back to bite the cowboys.
sure guy... sure. cant get too cocky now. i dont care as long as they win division and beat the giants.
i already knew the cards were gonna make us struggle. they always do.
same here
Just the Giants haven’t had a loss in Dallas for awhile now. Going to be a tough game. Especially coming off a loss like this hopefully they bounce back.
Have you noticed
how the Giants always play us tough? Even if they are 2-6, they will find a way to get up for our game and beat us.
Still 1 up
The whole NFC East is a mess this year.We are lucky that everyone else in our division is up and down as well.Who knows what Cowboys team will show up against the Giants but we should remember that the Giants have also looked terrible at times this year so what Giants team shows up?We can still take them
by Oshawa Cowboy on Dec 5, 2011 5:10 AM CST up reply actions
WHY ARE U YELLING 87
name something u sit in.. chair.. try again.. big chair.. nope that's the same thing try again.. high chair.. that's still a chair.. chair.. say something other than chair.. what if i can't think of anything.. u can pass.. how do i pass.. just say it.. say what.. say pass.. chair
I've said for a long time
Garrett is a decent coach but is very inexperienced. He makes a lot of poor decisions that betray his lack of understanding of game management. Today we saw several decisions where he was clearly confused or panicked.
What was most frustrating was seeing our offense score 13 points on one of the worst defenses in the league. That’s just embarrassing.
Do you think getting a playcaller would help?
That way he is solely focusing on head coaching decisions.
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
not a bad idea
Maybe being both is to much for him.
I think it would be much for anyone
Look at Wade, he is doing well in Houston
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
great point bro
Houston is one of the best defenses in football. And have lost some star players on that side of ball but still playing great.
Yeah
I think he needs a playcaller. I’ve seen several patterns in his playcalling, and I’m sure other defenses have seen it too. He also needs a game manager, because his understanding of rick and reward is backwards. He gets cautious when he should attack, takes chances when he should throttle back. I do like the organization and discipline he’s brought to the team, but he’s green and it shines through at times, like today.
great post Kindablue
well said couldn’t agree more.
about his risk/reward..this is very good.
I have noticed it as well. I would like to her from JG what his thought process is, but unfortunately he is not very honest, open or upfront on that sort of thing. I sort of understand, since it may give away some sort of ‘strategy’, but his risk/reward thinking seems very off to me sometimes or confused.
Like his choices earlier in the game about going for it on 4th and 1 or trying a FG, and then 4th and 11 from same spot deciding to punt the next time.
Thought 4th and 1 risk reward favored going for it, and 4th and 11 favored the long FG. He got both wrong IMO. Same with his choice at end of game NOT to take a TO and settle instead for a long FG when his fG kicker had been unsteady in the game.
by tucsonbandit on Dec 4, 2011 9:28 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Garrett's quotes from the presser
"We very well could have taken a timeout there, we felt like we were in field-goal range. We have yard lines that we use as guidelines before the game. We felt like we were in range at that point.:
"You see so many situations where you have negative plays in those situations. We felt like we were in his range to give him a chance to kick the game-winner."
It wasn’t exactly a chip shot. Settling for a 49 yard field goal is not something I could see most NFL coaches doing.
Jason has to fall on his sword there and take the blame. Instead he chose to deflect blame.
Man up dude!
Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.
by Bayou Cowboy on Dec 4, 2011 9:14 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
The problem with the second line is
with a negative play, the worse case scenario is that you go into overtime. With a FG over 50 yards there is probably an equal guarantee of making that kick, or getting closer with a pass or run.
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
Yep. It was 1st down after the Dez catch with 25 seconds and 2 time outs.
Call a time out, run a play, and even if we lose yards it is still only 2nd down with another time out in our pocket. And like you said, we could still go to OT anyway.
Do ya’ll remember a few years ago when we were 2 scores down against the giants with 29 seconds left? We scored, recovered the onsides kick and scored again to win.
"I'm huunngray. I want some f**ken french tooast!"
I couldn't believe his press conference.
Just admit you lost this team the game coach. 49 yards for any kicker especailly a rookie is no gimmie. You got 2 timeouts to run Murray and get it closer and you don’t? You try to use the excuse of well could of turned the ball over big bucking deal. You still need to get closer for the kicker you don’t settle for a 49 yarder with that much time and 2 timeouts. And he is the first coach ever to ice his kicker. Wtf does he even mean wanted to set up for a clean operation. I can see calling a timeout if you got to many men on the field. But Dallas was set and ready to go kick went right down the middle.
Exactly
You call a timeout if you have too many men on the field, or the play clock is going to expire or something. Not just “because”. At least look at what’s happening on the field. In fact, under those circumstances, nobody has a chance to “think”, they are just reacting and letting their muscle memory take over. That’s why the kick under duress what straight down the middle and the “iced” kick was horrendous.
Getting iced by your own coach has to be worse for the kicker than anything. Ugh.
One problem with Garrett
Is he almost never admits he made a mistake, even when it’s obvious. He’s clearly image-conscious and appears to be a little insecure. The only mistake he ever admitted was trying the Hail Mary at the end of the first half against Washington last year, which cost us the game. Even then it was two days afterwards, when the media and public outcry was so loud it could no longer be ignored.
by kindablue on Dec 4, 2011 9:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
wonder what Jerry Jones is thinking
anyone heard anything from him?
Jerry said
"We had an alternative. We could have run two, possibly three more plays there, but we have a lot of confidence in that kicker. It didn’t work. We all would have liked to have had 20 more yards. But that’s really speculating as to what we’d have done with the ball."
Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.
Honestly, this statement is perfect. Bravo, Mr. Jones (for once)
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
I really hope Jerry keeps his mouth shut
I’ve been critical of Garrett before, but in this case, Jerry needs to just be quiet and let the head coach take care of this.
not what jerry says at this point, but did you see his look and tone......
he is def not .. happy
woman !, don't try to understand em, don't try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
(redskins)= A Tale of 2 owners, bought by Snyder, OWNED by the COWBOYS
Id say RIP Al Davis, but i know your up there drunker than a monkey and clocking angels in the 40 yd dash.
nor should he be. Honestly, Garrett seemed a little rushed and maybe nervous(?) during the press conference at first.
His first couple answers are up on the mothership
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
I see most of you are looking at the coaching for this game loss but I see it differently
Dallas lacks the personel to be an upper echelon team.Yes, some decisons made by the coaches derailed the team. So did Bailey, missing two today.
This team is missing some key players that should help tremendously going forward. Austin and our beloved fullback. We need them back yesterday!!!
We also need ONE MORE excellent pass rusher on the Dline. Another two good CB’s to replace Newman and cover 5 wides. A mean nasty Center and guard. Our O line was pourous and will continue to be.
Yeah, the defense let us down in OT
but when you have to carry the team for the first 3 quarters, thats what happens
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
good post
can’t argue that one this team still has a ways to go to become a serious threat for a super bowl. Seems like Costa has struggled all year long hiking the ball. O-line hasn’t got the job done this season but they are young. If Austin and Fia are back for the Giants should help. But the Giants are one of the top ranked passing teams could be a long day for are secondary. I think Newman is about done.
Exactly
Just do not have the personnel to be elite.Stay on track,get the players and we will be elite again.Let garret do his thing and give him some time.He is still a young HC.
by Oshawa Cowboy on Dec 5, 2011 5:15 AM CST up reply actions
Do you guys buy what JG is selling?
Does that explanation even make sense? Cuz it defies basic common sense. Unless he just got so spoiled by the icy coolness of that kicker and the upteen kicks he had. Surely not. Somebody explain his beautiful mind to me.
Just becuz you put yer boots in the oven don't make it bread
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Dec 4, 2011 9:24 PM CST reply actions
Garrett makes no sense
And if i was Jerry Jones i would tell him this.
by beerman2619 on Dec 4, 2011 9:26 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not buying it
Saying you’re in “field goal range” at 49-yards with a weak legged kicker almost makes a mockery of the term. That was probably a 50-50 kick. Get it down to about 40 yards, which was very possible, and suddenly the odds of winning jump to about 85%. He’s just obfuscating.
I agree especially if your kicker has missed one previously
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
come on
coaches never say anything worth listening to in press conferences – it’s always the same predictible crap – like a b-movie with a recycled plot. And if they do stray from that, they get endlessly made fun of in the media and in beer commercials.
f it - rivvid.com
by LucyFur3d on Dec 5, 2011 3:53 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
wow with all this negativity
i would think we haven’t won a game all season. I think that if you are a true fan yes you are pissed right now thats acceptable. But all of this other crap? Cmon man! One game. Think about where we were a year ago. Nowhere near playoff contention. We still have a chance and yes the supporting cast (see secondary) needs to get better. As far as the coaching-well sorry Garret isn’t tebow he isn’t perfect and is going to make mistakes. I mean I guess this is just his first year so lets not throw him under the bus yet. If you want to say this season is over and that Garret sucks then go ahead. I’m fairly certain this season isn’t over yet and win or lose I’m still supporting this team 100%. If the rest of you want to bash the team and focus on the negatives go for it. We are still first place NFC East and in position to make the playoffs. A little better than last year.
by centralkscowboysfan on Dec 4, 2011 9:24 PM CST reply actions
See here is another one
This forum is for fans to vent and talk about how they feel. That doesn’t make you more of a fan then me or anyone else. Some people think Jason Garrett lost this game today. Actually alot of people do. I don’t think he can handle being coach and OC. Maybe find a OC in the offseason i don’t know. But i like many fans that say this still and will always be Cowboy fans. I remember when they went 1-15 did i complain oh you bet i did. But did i watch every game and hope they would win of course. Just like now i hope they beat the Giants next week. I’ve never been sold on Jason Garrett as head coach. Thats just my opinion it may be wrong. And i would be the first to admit this if they win a super bowl or even make the playoffs this season. But i will be a cowboys fan till the day i die.
by beerman2619 on Dec 4, 2011 9:30 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
AMEN.... Beerman .......
well said……sometimes that’s the reason why i dont comment a lot here and there, cause there is a few who.. seem to think if you dont view things like they do, you get verbally chastised…. lol. I’ve often held my tongue in such cases, figuring it’s just better not to shame em in front of others intellectually . I have often read things i may not agree with ,but often dont waste my time engaging in trivial verbal exchanges just to argue a point . Being dumbed down in the process isn’t my idea of fun. in fact id rather put a grinner on ya than argue …lol
woman !, don't try to understand em, don't try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
(redskins)= A Tale of 2 owners, bought by Snyder, OWNED by the COWBOYS
Id say RIP Al Davis, but i know your up there drunker than a monkey and clocking angels in the 40 yd dash.
Did anyone notice how well Dez was covered
He ran the same rout 50 times in a row. Are you kidding me JG?
This is going to bring up the question are we sure he knows another route?
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
13 points is disappointing today
Really thought they would put up some points this Cards defense isn’t that good at all.
Their secondary has been horrid
that is what makes this really troubling.
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
Really?
Outside of the games against Buffalo and the Rams, Dallas has not been scoring points in bunches.
Since T.O. left, Dallas’ offense has been an enigma to me.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
yes it has, 2009 was purely a run of excellent defense
even 2008 you saw the downfall coming.
2007 this team could hang 30 on just about anybody, now they win gritty 5 point games scoring no more than 20 but have a TOP of close to 35 minutes per game
i was shocked at how much they had to dink and dunk this year. and whenever they try and go deep Romo gets face-planted in the soil
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 4, 2011 11:33 PM CST up reply actions
That's what happens when you cut one of the better centers in the league.
And replace him with an undrafted free agent.
by Baked Potato Soup on Dec 5, 2011 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
We are still like 7th or 8th in the league in scoring
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
by 2tightendpkg on Dec 5, 2011 12:41 AM CST up reply actions
78 points in those two games Imentioned will do that for you
Know how much we average outside of those?
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
good point there , have often thought that....just something about that time frame....
woman !, don't try to understand em, don't try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
(redskins)= A Tale of 2 owners, bought by Snyder, OWNED by the COWBOYS
Id say RIP Al Davis, but i know your up there drunker than a monkey and clocking angels in the 40 yd dash.
I think
he ran the same routes 50 times because….HE CANT RUN ROUTES! It’s not the Garrett’s fault for his dumbass. Not everything is on Garrett.
Dude, watch the games...
He ran a fade into zone and man. He ran the comeback. He ran a dig. He ran the slant. On the fade into zone, he settled perfectly into the space between the corner and safety. On the last play of the game, he ran his route exactly as called. It was a dig. He beat Peterson to the break point and crossed the face of the safety, who was double covering him over the top. It was the route he also ran at the end of the second Washington game, except this time he won with the route and didn’t have to adjust to the outside.
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
by LDVFootball on Dec 4, 2011 9:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Please
Martellus Bennett can run a fade. And a comeback. A sixth grader could run a slant. Plus, it’s not all about just running the designed route. It’s about getting leverage on your man and using your body and speed.
What do you think he did on his last catch of the game?
But, of course, you know more about what it takes to be an NFL wide receiver than Dez. I forgot…
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
I was unaware that I said I knew more than Dez
One catch and he deserves a trophy. All I’m saying is, it doesn’t look to me like Dez runs good routes when I watch the games. Do I know everything? No. But I do know that when I see, in games past, Romo yelling at Dez after a failed play because A.) he either over ran a route or B.) he ran the wrong route, that this is not a very promising sign to me.
Believe what you want...
I have no time for this…
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
Yeah, that's it...
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
Please tell me this is not leading to the
“IF you don’t live in Dallas, you are clearly not as good a fan as someone from Dallas and you are a bandwagon fan”
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
by 2tightendpkg on Dec 4, 2011 10:13 PM CST up reply actions
No
that’s not my argument at all. I’m just wondering, cause I listen to a lot of sports talk radio around the area, I read a lot about the Cowboys from the local media and they all talk about, from training camp in fact, about the fact that Dez simply does not run routes well. He can run some, but that’s like saying “some people can kind of do their taxes”.
Romo, Witten, Austin, Garrett and anyone else with half a brain on the Cowboys roster knows this and this is a big factor why Romo does not trust Bryant. Why do you think Robinson has done so well in Austin’s absence? If Dez was so good, he would’ve seen increased production.
4th quarter
5 minutes left, we are in shotgun formation. Dez spilt out to the left, with Peterson pressing him. He runs right at Peterson and lets Peterson get inside leverage on him, forcing Dez to the sideline. Dez never recovers and Peterson uses his body to shield Dez all the way. Had Romo thrown the ball more inside, it would’ve been a pick for Peterson.
He runs fade routes, cause that’s all he knows how to run.
A few plays before this one, Robinson see’s the play breaking down and Romo rolling out right, to Robinson’s side. So what does Robinson do? He spins around, surprising his man, and beats his man, getting open for a first down.
Wonder why Romo trusts Robinson?? Hmmmmm??
Robinson has been a godsend.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
that is what made Irvin great .....
you could double him and still not take him out of games….
woman !, don't try to understand em, don't try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
(redskins)= A Tale of 2 owners, bought by Snyder, OWNED by the COWBOYS
Id say RIP Al Davis, but i know your up there drunker than a monkey and clocking angels in the 40 yd dash.
After another 50 times, he may just get that one memorized
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Good night everyone
I am tired and very very disappointed. We didn’t gain ground, but we didn’t lose any either. I have no earthly idea about next week, but tell ya what. I’ll be here, like all y’all will be too. I love my Dallas Cowboys and I know you do to. It could be worse. And hey, we have had so much wonderful SF here this week. Kinda incredible really. All the teams that we needed to lose, well, they lost. Including the Bears, the Falcons, the Giants, and the beloved Eagles. Right now, the Lions aren’t winning either. So all in all, it’s really been a nice week, huh yeah baby. See you later, my loyal friends
Just becuz you put yer boots in the oven don't make it bread
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Dec 4, 2011 9:37 PM CST reply actions
Garrett needs an offensive coordinator
He’s got too much on his plate. That’s why he fails to call a time out. He also needs to designate one coach on offense and one on defense to keep track of the time out situation and help with clock management.
Romo is also not without blame. In that situation, he has to know going into every huddle how many time outs he has and where he should use them. The cowboys could have run another play and maybe gotten a few more yards to make the field goal a little easier.
Galveston Dave
I think you're right
Minutiae and strategy are not a good combo for a young HC.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Missed the whole game...
but if you lose a situational football game this is a good one to lose… I’d be more upset over losing at home to Detroit. I thought we would finish with 9 straight wins but if we lose on the road vs a non-divisional rival I’ll take it.
We will bounce back vs Giants at home. They’ve lost 4-straight.
It seems like the Cowboys made mistakes to lose but it wasn’t like the Cardinals outplayed us… I’d be more worried about the running game.
Glad to see that Felix is back to his old self… did we actually break one on a kickoff? A breakthrough for Special Teams and I’m sure Bailey will bounce back.
It's a very bad loss
1) Conference loss, which may affect playoff tie-breakers
2) A game in which they were the favorite
3) All teams in division lost, so a missed opportunity to separate from the pack
4) Your kicker MADE the game winning field goal but was iced by his OWN head coach and then missed
December Cowboys . . . . .
Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.
Felix broke one
but i believe the next plays involved a first down sack, a dump for nothing, a false start, a delay of game, another incompletion, and then a punt. after starting from the cardinals 45 or something.
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 4, 2011 11:38 PM CST up reply actions
exactly
This drive was the one I watched about 7 times last night thinking that had we taken advantage of the great FP, the chaos of the last 26 seconds wouldn’t have happened. We still have room to grow as a team and taking advantage of these opportunities in a game is the one area we can def. benefit from a little urgency.
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
by CDMac24 on Dec 5, 2011 8:47 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Montana used to throw touchdowns with 24 seconds left from 31.
At the very least, run Demarco Murray for a couple of plays. Better yet, fake the hand-off and throw across the middle to Witten for 10 yards. Then Baily has a much easier kick.
Galveston Dave
You're actually comparing Romo to Montana?
I agree that they shoulda called a TO after the completion but, I wouldn’t throw again and possibly get sacked.
A breakthrough for Special Teams
They had their faults too. Scandrick’s blunder cost them a excellent punt return by Dez.
that was a picky call by the ref
woman !, don't try to understand em, don't try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
(redskins)= A Tale of 2 owners, bought by Snyder, OWNED by the COWBOYS
Id say RIP Al Davis, but i know your up there drunker than a monkey and clocking angels in the 40 yd dash.
Or a smart play by the Cards' special teams guy.
One of the commentators brought up a good point there, if the NFL is going to make all these rules to protect receivers, shouldn’t they apply to the special teams guys flying down the field too? ie interference-type penalties
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
Man come on guys we blaming JG , RR, etc..
But we all know Bailey Mr. Automatic had a bad day and it killed us..
Dallas failed because they failed to score TD but settle for FG’s.. ill take the 19 pts the defense allow all day.. well 13 if you don’t call ot.
by lostar2009 on Dec 4, 2011 9:51 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I would too
You will win most games giving up less than 20 pts. You will lose most games scoring less than 20 pts.
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
looks like he shanked one and didn't miss by much from 49
he’s come back to reality
Personally, I just don’t trust field goals. Too many moving parts, but it sure has seemed like we’ve conceded too many plays this year and just played for a FG.
As for today, I have more of a beef with not calling a TO and trying to get a few more plays in.
Oh, and I hate overtime.
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a s#!t about the rules?!?
about the Giants game
I’m not sure what to expect. Of course the game is going to be close. I wonder how much of a difference Austin coming back will make in opening up our offense by stretching the field. I think that will be the key to the Cowboys winning that game.
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
by CDMac24 on Dec 4, 2011 10:55 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
We got lucky in the Miami game and we were unlucky today
If you let bad teams hang around and play you tight, you’re bound to lose ones that make fans angry.
This was a return to the “what are they thinking” coaching maneuvers on the sideline. Delay of game in critical situation. Inability to manage the clock.
Shame on this coaching staff. The division, and maybe even a shot at the playoffs, may have been lost today.
Based on everything I’ve seen, I wouldn’t expect Dallas to fare well next week.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Dallas still holds their own destiny in their hands
Its not lost til its lost. I do like the flair for the dramatic though. It pretty well sums up how I feel today.
well at least we get to look forward to another week of on how great Rodgers is.
Be a Angel Fan till I die... The only good team to come out of Texas is my Dallas Cowboys Baby
tebow's team
is playing lights out for him. Well above expectations. The defense may just keep them in enough games for him to progress enough as a QB to be more of a passing threat. I’m still rooting for the guy. I live in Denver and maybe that makes me a homer but as long as they don’t play the Cowboys I hope Tebow and the Broncos keep rollin’.
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack.
~Sun Tzu
by CDMac24 on Dec 4, 2011 11:30 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
It's weird.
The Cowboys have allowed less points over the past 5 games than the Broncos, but I keep hearing how the Broncos’ D is lights out and Dallas’ D is terrible.
by Baked Potato Soup on Dec 5, 2011 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
and another low point, we know the o-line has its problems
but there was one sack, cardinals dropped 8 and sent 3. cowboys had 3 wr, 1 te, and sent the rb on a chip-release
Cardinals 3 man front broke through almost immediately and romo extended the play for about 7 seconds, 3 of the o-lineman were trying to move around and continue to block but alas Dockett got the sack and who do i see 5 yards up the field from the shifted pocket: Kosier and Costa staring at no one, turning around looking at romo eat dirt
there was also another play when paris lenon stacked up on the DT and costa did not call it out, (didnt help they waited til 2 seconds were left on the play clock for the 40th consecutive play), and when the ball was snapped costa doubles on the DT with Holland and lets Lenon fly up the middle unscathed and Murray has to charge 7 yards up the field and throw himself at Lenon in a desperation block but to no avail, Lenon and Campbell sack Romo three seconds after the ball was snapped.
bottom line, there is still some dead-weight on this roster and this team continues to show a lack of focus/mental toughness in games they should win by a comfortable margin. We not talking the steelers and packers, we talkin the dolphins and cardinals
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 4, 2011 11:53 PM CST reply actions
for some reason im content that cowboy won on thanksgiving and not against the cards..
new york giants will be in town next week and its on!
I saw this play like it was happening in slow-motion...
all that was missing for me was the slow, “NOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo….” as Murray tried to fling himself
there was also another play when paris lenon stacked up on the DT and costa did not call it out, (didnt help they waited til 2 seconds were left on the play clock for the 40th consecutive play), and when the ball was snapped costa doubles on the DT with Holland and lets Lenon fly up the middle unscathed and Murray has to charge 7 yards up the field and throw himself at Lenon in a desperation block but to no avail, Lenon and Campbell sack Romo three seconds after the ball was snapped.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
Jason Garrett dumbest coach in america
The only coach ever to ice his own kicker Mr. Carrot top himself Jason Garrett. Great hire Jerry this guy continues to lose games that the Cowboys should of won. He did it against Detroit with his play calling and New England. Now he ices his own kicker. And runs Demarco Murray 11 times lmao what a bucking joke this guy is. Please get a head coach in here in the offseason. Tony Dungy could barely talk he was laughing so hard at the clock management by Jason Garrett at the end of the game along with every sports show on. Wait till tomorrow it will be one of the top topics on every sports show and radio shows. Everyone will be laughing trying to figure out what was going threw Carrot tops head. Do coaches get drug tested only explanation thru out this game was Jason Garrett was stoned or something. Or he had money on the Cards in Vegas maybe he is like Pete Rose.
I won't go so far as to call him the "dumbest coach in America", but in my opinion, he did at least one very dumb thing tonight.
At first, I wondered why neither Romo nor Garrett called a time out after Dez’s last completion with 25+ seconds left.
After listening to Romo’s answer in his post game press conference, I had some understanding as to why Romo, specifically, didn’t call a TO. He needed to make sure that it was a first down…OK.
After listening to JG, however, I am shocked that he, Jason Garrett specifically, did not call a time out after Dez made the catch. According to Garrett, he knew it was a first down, he knew where the ball was being placed, he knew it was within the range of his kicker. Conventional wisdom tells me to then call a time out, knowing I’ll have one more after that, and try to either take a shot at the endzone (probably not the best idea here as it hadn’t worked all day) or have your surest-handed running back take the ball towards the side your kicker is most comfortable with, and hopefully pick up a couple more yards in the process. After which, you run the clock down to a few seconds and call your last time out.
I think any avid fan knows this, which is why it is such a head-scratcher coming from an otherwise semmingly very disciplined coach.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
by jakezze01 on Dec 5, 2011 12:58 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ridiculous
With 2 timeouts, 24 seconds, and a first down where all you have is an iffy 49 yard field goal, you just DO NOT play out the string. I mean, seriously, since when is a 49 yard field goal considered “good enough” or a “gimme” ?
That’s ridiculous. You call timeout with 24 seconds left and you try and get, say, 10 more yards through the air. Even if you have to get 2 five yard passes to the sidelines, you move the ball to an emminently more makeable distance and by throwing the ball to the sidelines, you can still stop the clock. PLUS you still have one more timeout in case you complete a pass over the middle.
That was HORRENDOUS clock management. Which is to say nothing of the idiotic timeout that WAS taken. Look at the situation ON THE FIELD, Jason. If no timeout is NEEDED, don’t take one.
Horrible.
Go read the Revenge of the Birds 4th Quarter Thread
When Romo hits Dez, they are saying game over, we lose. Then they laugh as Garrett mismanages the clock and ices the kicker. It’s really sad. These are all direct quotes.
That’s weird, two timeouts and he spikes it?
Am I the only one confused here?Dallas just iced their own kicker
Here comes a miss/block
Wait did Garret just ice his own kicker?Ice him again Whiz!!!
LoL…I swear Dallas is going to beat themselves
…and they call him the jedi how silly. their coach iced him too.
Oh my god this is wonderfulJerry looks pissed
Seriously though,We don’t even have to beat Dallas, they’ll find defeat in the clutches of victory.
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
talk about Schadenfreude
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
I think everyone knew he was going to miss that kick
There were confused looks on all of the Cowboys players and coaching. Everyone had that stare like WTF are we doing? Why didn’t we try to get a closer field goal and why did we just ice our own kicker? Has a team ever looked so lost or confused?
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
by 2tightendpkg on Dec 5, 2011 1:04 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know if I have ever been that confused watching a Cowboys game...
…but I hate to admit that there’ve been other times I’ve been close! lol
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
I'm glad i missed that game,
had a feeling it would be closer than people thought, can’t bring myself to watching it yet.
icing your’e own kicker !! Really ?. unbelievable but it’s the Cowboys so anything can happen .
better get their acts together for the Giants game or we have let them back into contention.
must have been rough to watch and take guy’s . feel for you all.
keep the faith.
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
We Fight On !!,That's The Cowboys Way !!.
Go Cowboys!!
The Earth is still turning
polar caps didnt melt, sun didn’t explode, no Texas-sized asteroid hits. We’re all still here, waiting for the Giants on Sunday night. After reading some of the comments in this thread I hope you remeber this and don’t go all ‘Straw Dogs’ on anyone
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by LucyFur3d on Dec 5, 2011 4:08 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Defense
We held them to 13 points in reg.This is the same offense that has put up 27 on the Giants and 27 on the Ravens and 20 on the Steelers,all pretty decent defenses.As much as I think we need some key personnel on the D,the offense hurt us today and really the OL.They have been up and down all year which we all should have expected with a new line and very young and no offseason.The Giants have their own problems and this years Cowboys can beat them,just depends on which teams show up
To Be Fair
At least to the Ravens defense, they didn’t so much give up 27 pts. AZ’s first TD came after a fumble by Flacco that they recovered at the 2 yard line, their second TD came on a 82 yard Peterson punt return, and their third TD came after a Flacco interception at the 25 Yd line.
Fact is, Baltimore did not allow AZ to mount a full TD scoring drive in the entire game. The AZ offense was only able to “drive” to two field goals.
As frustrating as the end of the game was, that’s not the concerning thing to me.
A team that can only score 13 points against the Cardinals this late in the season has zero chance to beat the Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees in a playoff situation.
This was just a bad game all around for a team that’s trying making a playoff run. There needs to be a major change in play calling and execution on offense, and good defenses need to be able to stop mediocre offenses when the game is on the line.
Next week, we get to watch a team that almost beat the Packers play a team that lost to the Cardinals. Oh boy.
One positive...
Romo kept his composure and played very well as the game clock was winding down. Earlier in the year, he may have handed the Cardinals this game. He did his job and kept us in it, and if it weren’t for a couple very suspect coaching decisions at the end of the game, we’d probably be looking at another W.
Yea but..
As the QB and leader of the team he shouldnt have had to wait on his coach to call a timeout. No way Brady, Brees, or Manning don’t call a timeout right after Dez catches the big 3rd down reception. He should have the authority to immediately call a timeout there and not worry about the coach screwing it up
Does Romo even have that much leash
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
by 2tightendpkg on Dec 5, 2011 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
He's got 2 hands and the ability to make a "T" with them, right?
lol
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
Yes,but Qbs don't just randomly call timeouts
It is pre-determined. Garrett tells Romo, if you convert on this play and we get into “field goal range” bleed the clock and spike it
Michael Vick- $100 million
Nnamdi Asomugha- $60 million
Asante Samuel- $60 million
Desean Jackson- $0 million
Eagles spending a ton of money and going another year without a superbowl- PRICELESS
by 2tightendpkg on Dec 5, 2011 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
I can see "bleed the clock and call TO" but what is the benefit to spiking the ball when they had two timeouts?
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
I kinda understand, after hearing Romo in the postgame press conference...
…why he(Romo) didn’t call the TO.
I still have no idea what Jason Garrett was thinking when he decided to let his team “rush” to the line, wasting some 18 seconds in the process, when they had two time outs left.
I watched a different team the same day, almost simultaneously, in a more pressured situation (in that there was less time for them to work with, and the fact they had one less time out, I believe), pull off a couple plays before they wound the clock, stopped it with a TO, and kicked. Can you guess what team that was? If you guessed the undefeated, undisputed champion Green Bay Packers, you’d be correct. Don’t get me wrong, I’m thankful they did. But it’s just the smart thing to do. Some days, some players don’t execute well. Some days coaches don’t execute well. Other days, neither one execute well, and that’s what happened yesterday.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
Instead of:
Next week, we get to watch a team that almost beat the Packers play a team that lost to the Cardinals. Oh boy.
You could have said:
Next week, we get to watch a team that lost at home to the Seahawks play a team that beat the 49ers on the road. Oh boy.
And I think that’s the quota on my positivity for the day. $#%@&.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
yea mr ramiro put the team
in a position to win “again” despite that porous line he has to work w/, he’s the last guy i’m worried about its those other positions that need to straighten up.
name something u sit in.. chair.. try again.. big chair.. nope that's the same thing try again.. high chair.. that's still a chair.. chair.. say something other than chair.. what if i can't think of anything.. u can pass.. how do i pass.. just say it.. say what.. say pass.. chair
it's hilarious that we all feel basically the same way about the loss last night and who was culpable and why
and yet you people still can’t resist getting in a huff over people’s opinions because they’re worded with a rhetorical flourish that doesn’t quite mesh with your understanding of two-way football cliches. optimists vs. pessimists? please.
you are children.
So many names I don't recognize!
How could that be?
You're pretty new here. Maybe that's the problem.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
No, I recognize names like.....
OCC, FITAT, Mensa(unfortunately), yours, BSAB, Fernie, etc.
Just seems like alot more folks on here bashing.
Or rather, folks who only show up after a loss.
I understand what you meant, just ribbin' ya.
Bad losses tend to bring out the worst in every team’s fan base, unfortunately. I’m going to have a hard time honoring the 24-hour rule this time, myself…
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
Sorry.
The ribbin went over my head. Little slow today. Or is that everyday? HAHAHA.
If you're asking about me, it's everyday.
= )
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
Then we are in the same boat.
I was talking about me.
Still only need to win the next 2 games
And we will automatically clinch the National Football Conference Eastern division.. I think..
Correct.
In fact, any 2 wins in the last 4 weeks, as long as at least one is against the Giants, wins the division.
by Baked Potato Soup on Dec 5, 2011 1:20 PM CST up reply actions

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