Video Review Of Cowboys' Next Opponent: New York Giants
It's a pivotal game in the NFC East. The New York Giants come to Cowboys Stadium to play Dallas in a game with the lead for the division on the line. Both teams are trying to rebound from heartbreaking losses in games they came close to winning.
That uses up the cliche quota for the moment. You all know what kind of impact this game will have on the season.
The Giants have been a real problem for Dallas since they opened the Palace, having beaten the Cowboys in the first two meetings there. Both teams are trying to figure out just how good they are. Dallas had a four game winning streak, but was squeaking through close games, and then lost the last game against the Arizona Cardinals in a fashion I will not rehash here, due to being completely out of anti-nausea medication. The Giants are on a four game losing streak, but they played the undefeated Green Bay Packers down to the wire.
I went back and took a look at that last game to get something of a feel for what the Cowboys are going up against. I have some general observations about what the New Yorkers who play in New Jersey (wait, that's the Jets too - oh, who cares?) bring to the game. And just for fun, I looked in detail at a successful play from the offense and the defense, 'cause I know how much most people like the spiffy pictures.
Take the jump to see what I got.
Lets start with the quarterback. Eli Manning is having a very good year. In one of the serendipitous things that I love here at BTB, OCC has just done a post comparing the NFC East passers, and he shows how close the year to date performances by Eli and Tony Romo have been.
(Gratuitous music reference here. I just like the song.)
In the game against Green Bay, Eli was slinging it quite well. He put up 347 yards and 3 touchdowns, with one pick six to the negative. As a matter of fact, that pick six might have been the difference in the game.
One way in which Eli was different from Tony is that he relied very heavily on two receivers. Hakeem Nicks and Victor Cruz caught 61% of all the completions in the game, with seven each, and accounted for 60% of the yardage. Cruz led in yardage whereas Hicks had two touchdowns. Just from looking at this game, it appears that if you can shut these two down, you might be able to limit the overall attack. But that is not always an easy task, since both are very good at getting open. Hicks in particular showed some Dez Bryant style ability to go up and get the ball against the defender. Outside of them, the only receiver who Eli seemed to look to with any frequency was TE Jake Ballard, who had 3 catches. There was also one long touchdown catch of 67 yards by reserve TE Travis Beckum, but it was only his second catch of the season. It came less than three minutes into the game, and he then disappeared again.
The running game was effective, but not used as much as it might have been as the game became a shootout between Eli and Aaron Rodgers (who had 369 yards passing). There were only a total of 20 carries by the G-men, but they got exactly five yards a pop. Brandon Jacobs was the more efficient back, putting up a very good 7.4 yards a carry, but he only got 8 carries. Ahmad Bradshaw had 11 totes for a 3.5 average. The run game is something that Dallas may need to watch defensively. Green Bay has a porous defense, but that is mainly against the pass, where they rank 31st. On the ground, they are a little above average at 13th, so the Giants will be a threat to make some yards here.
The offensive line did a pretty good job protecting Eli and also in opening up a few good holes for the backs. Eli was only sacked once and hit three times. However, one of the hits was a big one, where Clay Matthews (I think) came looping around behind Eli from his left side and hit his arm just before it came forward, causing a fumble that looked at first like an incomplete pass. If you happened to see the Texans game, there was a very similar play there, but the replay of the Eli fumble was much more conclusive in that you could see the ball come loose and then get knocked forward as Eli's hand was pushed by the defender. Green Bay recovered, but then the Giants defense held and the Pack missed a field goal.
Defensively, the Giants were stout against the run and a bit feeble against the pass, not a good combination when you face the Packers. Green Bay doesn't do much running anyway, and Aaron Rodgers has made several defenses look like have as many holes as those silly hats the Packers fans wear. In the secondary, Prince Amukamara looks like someone that can be beaten. He has only played in three games after coming back from a broken foot suffered in preseason, and he looks like it.
The pass rush was a more effective part of the game, and reflects the fact that the front four on their 4-3 defense is the strength of the team. Chris Canty and Justin Tuck both had very good games and were in the backfield a lot. Jason Pierre-Paul looked very impressive as well. In the linebacking corps, Chase Blackburn stood out with the one interception they had. This was an interesting play to me because Rodgers clearly just did not see Blackburn and threw a ball he should not have. It was, dare I say it, early season Romoesque. But of course he's Aaron Rodgers, so I suppose it was all right. (And they did win the game.)
As I mentioned, they did very well against the run, holding Green Bay to 89 total yards and 3.2 YPC. This is one of those situations where you don't know if it was more Green Bay having an anemic running game or the Giants having a solid run defense. I lean towards the former, based on the season statistics which have the Giants at 23rd in the league.
There was one area that they did prove vulnerable, and it was something that the Cowboys might want to exploit. On back to back passing plays (with a run in between) where Rodgers dropped back to pass, the secondary had the receivers covered, but the Giants left a big gap in their left side. Rodgers found a hole on that side (his right) and made two good runs, both for first downs (one on 3rd and 10, the other on 2nd and 9). The first looked strictly like he was escaping the pass rush, but the second might have been a designed play. Since the Cowboys have a tolerably mobile quarterback, this may be something the coaches might be mulling over.
There was nothing special that I saw on the special teams. They did get an average of 25 yards per kickoff return, but I think that was partly due to the Green Bay kickoffs being rather shallow. They gave up almost exactly the same in coverage, and neither team did anything returning punts.
Now, some plays. First, a nice pass play that shows good design by the Giants. The situation was a 2nd and 8 in the 3rd quarter following an illegal formation penalty. Here is the formation.
You can see Hakeem Nicks lined up split out to the left, and the defensive back is giving him a big cushion - all the way to the first down marker. You also notice the tight end going in motion from right to left at the bottom of the screen.
As the play develops, you can see how the tight end has taken a defender with him. Nicks is crossing underneath him, and his defender is pretty much out of the play. Hicks has a lot of room to work. Eli is getting rushed with one man breaking through, but he will stand in and get the ball off.
And here is the payoff. Hicks has just caught the ball. The defender closing is the one that started to go with the tight end, and he is too late to stop the play. Hicks will be able to push him just over the first down line, and two plays later Hicks will catch a touchdown pass. Nice execution all around by the Giants.
The next play actually comes from earlier in the game. It shows the first sack by the Giants. They have the Packers in 3rd and 12 in the second quarter. Rodgers is in a shotgun.
I've circled Justin Tuck, who is lined up in a tackle slot instead of the end position. You also notice a linebacker coming up and showing blitz just inside of Tuck. He is going to come on a delayed rush.
Here is Troy Aikman's diagram of what is about to happen.
I've labeled the key players here. 1 is the linebacker coming on a delayed blitz. 2 is Jason Pierre-Paul, who is going to be pushed outside, but who will force Rodgers to step up and start to his left. 3 is Tuck, and 4 is Rocky Bernard, who will tie up the blockers and allow Tuck to come back to his right.
Here you see that Rodgers is trying to make a break for all that green space where the down and distance graphic is. If he gets clear, he has room to run, or he can throw to the receiver just under the 3. But Tuck has gotten free of the blockers and is closing fast.
Nothing much to say here.
I don't know what to predict for this game, but then I usually don't have a good idea of what will happen. The Cowboys need to have all the parts working for this one. I am very curious to see the attitude that they bring to the field Sunday night.
I hope it is a really nasty one.
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In my opinion this IS a playoff game
hope the Boys feel the same
Everything on the line.
The O-Line and Garrett need to bring their “A” game.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
Having Austin and Fiammetta will help alot
Im worried about the Defense. Holding NY to 17 or under will be the key.
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I don't see Dallas' D holding Eli to only 17
It will be up to the Oline to run the ball and pass protect so the offense can put up big numbers. The D will have to perform well, but the offense will need to keep the ball away from Eli & co.
by torchindefenses on Dec 8, 2011 9:44 AM CST via mobile reply actions
You never know
I didn’t think they would hold NE to 20 but they still did.
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Yeah of our last 3 losses
I would say two of them are because our Offense didn’t get it done. Rule of thumb is defense hold under 17 its a good game and Offense score 24 its a good game.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
Soooooooo glad that i am so busy at work
that I haven’t had time to get stressed about the this game. This game will be decided like any other Cowboy Giant game. Who ever controls the line of scrimmage is going to control the game. Its just that simple.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
agree, our OL will decide this game
They give Romo time and open up some creases for Murray, we win going away, if they play like last week, we’ll struggle and more than likely lose.
In Romo we Trust
It's true , if we had gotten the offensive output many of us expected, we'd be close to the Pack and the Niners.
The OL is young and maybe we expected too much from them, but they’ll have to protect Tony because we’ll have to score some points to beat the Gmen.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
I think if they can get Murray going
it will help them pass protect better as well. Their front four won’t be coming with their ears pinned back every play.
In Romo we Trust
Football is a game of skill, tactics or schemes, preparation (study and practice as well as strenght and conditioning.
Psychology plays a significant part in it as well. If you’re not confident, chances are you’re odds of winning go down.
The Giants and the Boys both lost close games last week end, but the Giants went toe to toe with the best the NFL has to offer. We lost to the lowly Cards in a way that does not inspire confidence. This worries me because I have to think that the team coming to this Sunday’s game with the most confidence, not to mention with their backs against the wall, is the team not wearing the star on their helmets. Hope I’m proven wrong.
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The Giants lost 4 straight, Dallas won 4 out of it's last 5. Lack of confidence?
If last Sunday’s game against AZ is going to break Dallas’ collective back, then maybe they don’t need to show up.
by TheCowboyFan on Dec 8, 2011 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
I sometimes wonder if JG's temperament is not conducive to getting this team fired up. RR has the right personality
but JG is his polar opposite. We don’t have a Ray Lewis amongst the players so there’s a void there.
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Could not agree more.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
Restraint and lack of passion are not the same.
He’s a fiery coach. You’re acting like he’s Wade Phillips. Just because his yelling and screaming isn’t into a microphone doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. I thought, as fans, we would know some things about our coach beyond the fact that he’s well-mannered during press conferences.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
by CotySaxman on Dec 8, 2011 12:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
So, why is it that guys like
Landry, Walsh, & Noll were able to win multiple Super Bowls?
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Dec 8, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
Better personnel? Better at keeping teams focused. I'm not saying JG's a bad head coach. Just as I'm not saying RR would be a better HC.
In fact I think each is nicely suited for hisrespective role. I’m talking about getting the players fired up just before and during the game. I think he can motivate people just fine, but can he supercharge them the way Ray Lewis seems to do? It’s a fine distinction, but JG’s approach is much more psycologically cerebral as opposed to awe inspiring fire and brimestone.
By the way I think RR would make a mediocre head coach just like his Dad and his Brother.
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all im saying is that those guys didnt get players all fired up either
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
Because you agree with me?
Reply fail, I’m guessing.
Or a parallel argument against an unwritten preconception I have? Hmmm…
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by CotySaxman on Dec 8, 2011 10:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No he demands accountability. No comparison to Wade. He is restrained
and does not outwardly show emotion. I don’t know if that’s good or bad, but we seem to lack that cut throat, go for the jugular approach that the Steelers, Ravens, Niners, etc. have. Just an observation. This upcomig game should be played as a conference championship between the Steelers and Ravens. It should be an MMM war with no holds barred. The Boys need to play lights out on Sunday night. Anything short of that is unacceptable in a game of this consequence.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
Giants played their best game of the year and lost. That's more cause for a let down IMO.
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I hope all of you are right. The boys perplex me and I never know who's going to show up. Watching the pregame show just before the start of the Cards game, Rat was leading the D in their pregame ritual. He seemed so fired up that I thought the team wass
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
was going to destroy the Cards.
Didn’t happen.
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i wouldn't say that was their best played game of the year
but I get your point.
"It is super important to come out right away and stuff it down people's throats and make them respect the run. We have Hakeem and Mario and Cruz and then they can get off as well. It starts with the running game always."
- BJacobs
Best offensive game of the year maybe
Total game when you give up 38 points at home in a loss idk how that clarifies as best of the year
by CowboyWay on Dec 8, 2011 11:05 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Staying with GB, clearly a much better team, I see it as their best game.
GB can pretty much put up points on any D.
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you fans can't have it both ways
“oh, GB defense is non existent, it doesn’t mean anything that the Giants scored and almost kept up with Rodgers”
OR
“Giants played their best game of the year and lost. That’s more cause for a let down IMO.”
“Staying with GB, clearly a much better team, I see it as their best game.”
On a personal note:
the first game against Philly or the 49ers game which we lost were 2 games that were much better played all around. – a fan who’s watched all the games not going by highlights or what the media portrays
"It is super important to come out right away and stuff it down people's throats and make them respect the run. We have Hakeem and Mario and Cruz and then they can get off as well. It starts with the running game always."
- BJacobs
It BTB, we can have both ways.
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Some of us prefer the plain old hetero stuff.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
I was think more of mensa
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it took every bit of restrain to not go there with that comment lol
but since you went there let me say what I wanted to respond with in good fun…
Is that how you ’boys get down?
"It is super important to come out right away and stuff it down people's throats and make them respect the run. We have Hakeem and Mario and Cruz and then they can get off as well. It starts with the running game always."
- BJacobs
Well, if I rule out men, I am eliminating 50% of my chances.
And that was 100% just a joke.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it.
Their best game of the year
was the Pats game… they made Brady look foolish for nearly 3 quarters.
I hope you are right
But recent history tells a different tale. In the last game of 2007, the Giants played their best game against the then undefeated Patriots and lost 38-35. After the Giants won the Superbowl as the 5th seed, players and coaches stated that going toe to toe with the Pats gave them a boost of confidence that they then rode into the playoffs.
I hope history does not repeat itself. But I think pfloyd has a good point. I would certainly be more confident if I were the Giants offense right now.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
The flip side is that their defense could not stop Rodgers.
They got the ball at the twenty, and Rodgers completed four consecutive passes for 24, 27, -1, and 18 yards, then just let the clock run down so they could kick the game winning 30 yard field goal.
Throughout the game, the offenses were pretty much having their way, and the defenses were getting shredded (which should be easy to see with a 38-35 score). If Tony has his weapons all in place and Fiammetta can spark the run game, the team should be able to score on the Giants D, which has a good line, decent linebackers, and a struggling secondary. In some ways, our game may look very much like the Green Bay game, since our defense is probably better than Green Bay’s, while our offense is not as potent (although Miles and the Fiery One may change that).
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
The question is whether the O-line will give Romo enough time to attack the Giants secondary.
Raf has a nice write up asking this very question:
http://www.cowboysnation.com/2011/12/giants-week-can-romo-find-time-to.html
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
Not to discredit anyone's opinions because we are all here having fun sharing, so here's mine
throughout the entire GB game, including the last drive you referred to….
Were there not some pretty amazing accurate throws and catches displayed by GB? (it wasn’t all about guys getting open or breaking tackles)
Even though the Giants lost I walked away pretty content with the way the game went, not because it was close but because so many of those 3rd down conversions or that last drive were some of the best throws and receptions in the game. Our defense was beat with perfect throws. When a receiver is lunging out of bounds and completes a catch for a first down (or a touchdown) – there is no way to stop that! There was not 1 or 2 plays like that but I dare say almost 7 or 8. So if you’re saying Romo can emulate that, then I would be the first to post on here with a big Congratulations – Romo earned the win.
"It is super important to come out right away and stuff it down people's throats and make them respect the run. We have Hakeem and Mario and Cruz and then they can get off as well. It starts with the running game always."
- BJacobs
Confidence is indeed a big part of winning ...
… and yet it is of course an even more important factor when ALL of the players know that they must play their best on every down to win, both offensively and defensively. From what I’ve seen, teams that buy into their own mystique too much are more likely to get burned in trap games.
Fortunately, I don’t see that happening with Cowboys-Giants this coming weekend, at least on the Dallas side of the ball. Some of the New York players, on the other hand, have been talking trash about how the Boys’ offense isn’t up to that of Green Bay and therefore they should be able to get the win easily. That could give Dallas a better chance to make the Giants eat their words.
For what it’s worth, I think the Cowboys are in an excellent position to play the Gnats like the Saints did two weeks ago, when Drew Brees basically ran a clinic on how to scorch New York’s defensive line and secondary. What was the final score in that game, something like 49-24? The Boys may not blow out the Giants by that kind of margin, but if Garrett balances our offense with a solid running strategy, that will take some of the heat off of Romo and let him do a bit of what Brees did earlier. Romo is good, and when Dallas plays with the intensity we all know they are capable of, well, let’s just say I like our chances.
Go Browns! Poor Cleveland: bottom of the NFL once again. Geez, it sucks to be lower than the Deadskins.
My dad always used to say that in the NFL
where the talent level is so even, the team that wants it more will always win. There’s a lot to be said about that.
In Romo we Trust
It's definitely more mental in the NFL.
Every player is big, strong, and fast. The only edge is between the ears.
I hope the croud is into the game, lots of noise when the NYG have the ball.
Make the O-line move on the snap, advantage D.
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I don't think it matters or not if the croud is in the game
but I think its very important for the crowd to be in the game.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Dec 8, 2011 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
Is it 4:20 where you are?
Nobody cares about your effin fantasy team, keep it to yourself...........Lock n Load
Nope. Beer thirty
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Dec 8, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
I would not count on it!!
At the Buffalo game there were fans trying to get a guy kicked out because he was standing up and getting crazy for the game. He wasn’t drunk or being disrespectful. Our home crowd sucks!!!
May the force be with the Star.......... always!!!
Dallas Cowboys football isn't just a game in my house, it is a festive holiday every Sunday!!!!!!!!
by Darth Dallas on Dec 8, 2011 12:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
absolutely, we have the worse fans in the league that attend the games on a regular basis
The season holders really aren’t football fans like in the Northeast and other cities where fans go nuts and make noise.
It’s really pathetic and an embarrassment actually.
In Romo we Trust
Except in Philly and then they Boo everyone especially the Iggles.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
Yep!
It wasn’t as bad in Texas Stadium but the new one just does not get to crazy at all!!
May the force be with the Star.......... always!!!
Dallas Cowboys football isn't just a game in my house, it is a festive holiday every Sunday!!!!!!!!
Win or Lose
I want to see a game where both teams bring it with heart and soul!
It would also be great to have a game with no missed field goal unless blocked, no injuries, no strange bounces, no botched up ref calls, no cheap shots from either team.
Here’s to a physical, passionate, great football game!!
"It is super important to come out right away and stuff it down people's throats and make them respect the run. We have Hakeem and Mario and Cruz and then they can get off as well. It starts with the running game always."
- BJacobs
screw that......
I wanna blow those guys off the field! Each time Eli is planted in the turf it brings a smile to my face. I want to see the g men embarrassed and humiliated. I want this game over at halftime so we can continue to pummel them in the 2nd half.
LOL…….couldn’t resist because I don’t think any of this is gonna happen.
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
Inducted in Cowboys Ring of Honor 2011 FINALLY!!!!!!!
we have 2 games to play
That could also be fun to watch the other way around for my team too but I’d rather save that for the last game.
"It is super important to come out right away and stuff it down people's throats and make them respect the run. We have Hakeem and Mario and Cruz and then they can get off as well. It starts with the running game always."
- BJacobs
as others have mentioned...
the KEYS to this game are:
OUR OL vs their front 4 and keeping Tony upright
AND opening holes for D Murray.
Our DL/LB’s getting to Eli and planting him in the turf.
Our secondary preventing the long ball and NO pass interference penalties.
If Romo is running for his life on every play, and our OL is being OWNED its going to be a loooooooooooooooong night for us.
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
Inducted in Cowboys Ring of Honor 2011 FINALLY!!!!!!!
Only guys worth listening to are Colin Cowherd, Mike Mayock and Trent Dilfer. All are knowledgeable, objective and fair.
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Yep. I've never heard anything positive about the Boys from Florio.
Even when he pays a compliment, it’s in a backhanded way. What a tool.
by Mr._Mulligan on Dec 8, 2011 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
Adam Scefter picked the Boys
to win the D before Game 1. And when did Cowturd become a Dallas fan? I quit listening to his repetitive Romo bashing a year ago.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
Before the year started
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
I stand corrected.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
Cowherd did a complete 180 on Romo
Citing how he liked Favre and Romo is a lot like Favre so how could he not like both.
Honestly him changing opinions like that is one of the reasons I love listening to him. He speaks his mind and will be contradictory for the sake of being contradictory
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
You hit it: He's a contrarian.
If Romo wins a couple of playoff games and people continue to praise his play, he will probably change his tune.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
You haven't been listening lately Cowherd is a huge Romo fan.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
And declares himself to be one.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Has everybody read Michael Silver's column (Yahoo Sports)
on the importance of this game? His thoughts include the firing of the losing coach. The short version – Bill Cowher to the Giants, or Jeff Fisher to Dallas. He explains that Fisher and Jerry are real close (competition comittee) and says
latest reports are that Jerry is not real happy with Garrett’s production. I definetly see Coughlin getting axed if the G-men don’t make the playoffs, as to Jerry eating 3 years of contract, I think it comes down to how many of these last 4 games we win and how Garrett calls those games.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
Sounds like Silver's been those wild mushrooms again.
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I cannot believe Jerry would fire a coach after 1 season
Based on results, the lockout, etc. This seems to be a case of perception over reality.
Also, can someone please tell me why Fisher is a good coach. Everyone loves the guy but I think he’s overrated.
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
I have no idea how Jerry could fire Garrett
unless he has an overinflated impression of the talent on this roster and actually expected the cowboys to be a playoff contender this year. If that is the case, and the Cowboys collapse down the stretch then maybe he would fire Garrett.
More speculation: Jerry is tired of wasting the careers of Romo, Ware, witten and others and wants a contender immediately, doesn’t think Garrett can get it done, and doesn’t want to wait.
Either way, to Fire garret (after retaining Wade after 44-6) would be extremely surprising.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
Surprising yes,
but if a grand collapse occurs, go 1-3 no playoffs, I can see it for the reasons you state..
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
What good what it to do bring Fisher in here?
He had a nice career in his tenure at Houston/Tenn. But, what has he won? He got to the Super Bowl off the momentum of the luckiest play I ever saw. Other than that…zero rings…which is what Garrett has. I take my chances with Garrett.
by TheCowboyFan on Dec 8, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
Jerry would fire JG because
Jerry is impatient. ( After promising not to fire Wade, he fired Wade mid-season.) Also, it is clear to me they move to a different drummer. Jerry is a gambler, impatient, takes a chance at the Brass Ring every chance he gets. He was formed this way before football ownership. (Wildcatting oil rigs). Garrett is turning more conservative every game. Plays not to lose. Doesn’t trust Romo or Murray (last game, 22 sec. 2 TO’s and doesn’t attempt to get Bailey closer). I don’t know what Fisher’s lifetime W-L is, but, what, 15 years same organization must have something. The real point is the personal connection between Jer and Fish which we are not privy to. If it is REAL close (like Jimmy J in the formative years) then Garrett better “git er done” or he could be out.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
Garrett better just "git er done" regardless.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
Fisher's Life time W-L
is pretty close to 50-50. Meaning that you better get used to a lot of 8-8 seasons
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
I could see Coughlin getting the axe
Garrett would have to pull a wade the last 4 games of the year to get fired.
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
DeMarcus is EveryWare Man
Twitter: @silva918
He's nuts. Jones isn't going to fire Garrett for not making the playoffs, this year.
by Mr._Mulligan on Dec 8, 2011 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
Silver is a typical talking head.
Do something controversial about the Cowboy and people will read or watch it, no matter how stupid it is.
Nobody cares about your effin fantasy team, keep it to yourself...........Lock n Load
ZERO chance
of this happening.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Dec 8, 2011 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
I realize North Carolina is pretty backwoods...
But is UNC the reason you keep calling Nicks Hicks?
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
by CotySaxman on Dec 8, 2011 12:30 PM CST via mobile reply actions
WTH? Surely you jest?
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Dec 8, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
You got it, Paul
Tom’s typo led me to see if you were reading. Nothing malicious, though. Just playing with the circumstance… UNC alumnus referred to as Hicks, and another alumnus in the fan base. I’m confident that my home town, 710 strong, is more hick-laden than UNC. We just don’t have southern accents.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
by CotySaxman on Dec 9, 2011 6:42 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Just remember.....
even Minnesota put up 27 against the Packer defense. Yeah, the Giants put up a great statistical game but they still lost. The Dallas’ D is much better than the Packer’s D. Hopefully this week Garrett won’t abandon the run game just because of a couple of negative plays. Pound the rock, give it to Murray, that is the key. If Murray only touches the ball 12 times then the Boys are doomed.
Well I am trying to be positive...
They held Beanie to under 100 yards rushing and Kolb would have had under 200 yards passing if it weren’t for the OT and the 59 yard screen. The offense needs to kick it in gear.
Not as long as Garrett doesn't trust Romo.
Until that happens and he unleashes him, we will keep playing vey conservatively.
It sounds more like
he doesn’t trust the running game. Murray only touched the ball 12 times, that is ridiculous.
Bob Sturm recently posted a very interesting article
That Garrett seems to go very conservative and abandon the Run – on the Road
http://sturminator.blogspot.com/2011/12/decoding-garrett-week-12-data-at.html
I don't make mistakes...just understandable bad choices
I guess it also answers the question about JG's trust in Romo. Clearly,
he does, almost to Romo’s detriment. Get the guy some help on the road and run the damned ball.
That makes no sense. What he's not trusting is the O line. Romo threw 42 times
while Murray got what? 12 touches?
Tom,
You often call Hakeem Nicks “Hicks” throughout the article. Was that on purpose?
by jazzbo251 on Dec 8, 2011 12:35 PM CST via mobile reply actions
No, that was just my being in a rush.
Got it written that way one time and just didn’t realize I was doing it.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
What are they saying over at Big Blue View or whatever it is called?
I got kicked off the site so I can’t comment.
And I respect you for that.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
I didn't even say anything bad.
It was just the timing. I commented like an hour after one of their losses.
you can still read the site.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
Getting kicked off has a certain
Bad Boy quality to it. I like it. Maybe I’ll shoot for BGN.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
LMAO.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
Too effin funny.
So maybe I should ask who else?
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
You have outdone yourself. TOOOOO Good.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
I got banned from HH real easy.
I called out that parks guy and I guess he couldn’t handle the truth so he banned me.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
Yea, his go to move is
calling all cowboy fans not from texas bandwagon fans.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
Yea, he did that to me.
I typed him my life’s story explaining my allegiance to all my sports teams and then his comment was “typical definition of a bandwagon fan”. He’s an idiot.
HH is a Private Club, evidently.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
It use to be a great site 4 years ago.
Now its trash.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
never ever do that.
You don’t have to justify anything to anyone. That is them winning when you do.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
I got kicked off BGN for saying they traded the wrong QB.
I wear it like a badge of honer.
Nobody cares about your effin fantasy team, keep it to yourself...........Lock n Load
Man they must have thin skins. No pun intended
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
I'm still laughin about the Redskins.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
Yeah, I even put up degrading pics.
They just kept taking it and giving it back. It was kind of fun. Think I’ll go back over after they lose this weekend.
It's from working outdoors, not in a Manhatten office.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it.
Maybe insult Shanahan's kid?
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
Well nothin the rest of the day
is going to be as funny as this. Thanks.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
who's "Hicks?"
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
That hillbilly that wears #88 on the NYG
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN
here's to a good game and no injuries this weekm fellas
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
See my "oops" above.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Just wandered over to Big Blue for a while to see what they were saying.
Here are a few quotes that I cut and pasted so that I could leave all the proper grammar and spelling.
Romo is like Sanchez but better.
the only football talking heads who really believe Romo is "the guy" seem to be people named Irvin or Aikmen.
Big Blue has some real old time fans
And they post allot of comments on every topic. 4X’s more than you see here.
I see Eli having another solid game Sunday. If he turns it over more than once, and we stall in the red zone, Boys may have a chance. The O-line will be make shift again and could allow for some problems with the pass rush.
NYG 35
Dallas 24
Well it's up to JG
to make sure those scores are reversed.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones





























