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Hungry for Some Meat and Potatoes This Offseason

The signings of Leonard Davis, Marc Columbo, and Kyle Kosier have made this team reliant on overpaid free agents and delayed building the offensive line through the draft. Now that Kosier, Davis, and Colombo are 31 and older, it is time to rebuild this team for the long haul. We should have looked at the line after the playoff loss in 2007 and especially after the 2009 loss, but now we are in a precarius position with the defense performing at a historic low. As pointed out a recent fanpost by BTB member Kegbearer (Perception vs Potential) there are slim pickings at RT in free agency. At guard Logan Mankins will be franchised, Carl Nicks could be an RFA, and other than Justin Blaylock there isn't any other player that would be a significant upgrade from Davis and Kosier at Guard. The tackle free agent prospects is even worse than that. This leaves the draft a likely solution.

Star-divide

The problem with addressing the offensive line in the first round would be there are no players that warrant a pick that high (maybe Tyron Smith but lets wait until the combine). BTB stats guru O.C.C. had a post a while back about trading possibly trading down with the Patriots who hold the 17th, 28th, and 33th picks in the draft (O.C.C.'s post). Some of the trade posibilities listed were:

Cowboys 9th and 140th (1386 pts) = Patriots 17th, 60th and 92nd (1382 pts)
Cowboys 9th and 71st (1585 pts) = Patriots 17th, 33rd and 124th (1578 pts)
Cowboys 9th & 40th & 140th (1886 pts) = Patriots 17th, 28th and 60th (1910 pts)


I chose to bottom option for this scenario. So what does trading with the Patriots have to do with a meat and potatoes draft? It gets the team in range for one of the top offensive tackles in the draft. Tyron Smith and Gabe Carimi should be our targets. The trade also gives the war room a late first round pick to take one of the best interior lineman or a 1st round talent who slids into the bottom of the draft. This should give us an opportunity to select a wide range of players (assuming a few guys drop a few spots) including Phil Taylor, Benjamin Ijalana, Muhammad Wilkerson, Mike Pouncey, Steven Paea, and maybe Danny Watkins. Something to keep in mind is that the Chargers hold 5 draft choices in the 2nd and 3rd rounds if we chose to trade with them. Here is the mock draft:

2011 Draft

1.17 - OT Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin - 6'7'' 315 lbs

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If you watched Wisconsin play football this year then you know that they ran the ball a lot and effectively. Carimi feels like the safest OT prospect (Tyron Smith may need to add some weight) and he can play in a lot of places. In the senior bowl and the practices, he played at guard in addition to tackle to showcase his versatility. Now at 6'7'' he is probably too tall for guard, but showing the scouts he doesn't mind kicking inside was a plus. Mike Mayock said he believed Carimi could play at LT at the next level, but with Doug Free on the left side he can play at RT. He's got some nastiness in him and you can bet Jason Garrett will use his connection to good friend Paul Chryst to get a good evaluation on not only him but teammate G/C John Moffitt, who is a mid-round pick to keep an eye on.

1.28 - C/G Stefen Wisniewski, Penn State - 6'3'' 306 lbs

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The war room can't believe their luck when Sean Lee's former teammate becomes the next future franchise center for Garrett's new offensive line. His arrival could allow the front office to balk on resigning aging Kyle Kosier, who makes the line calls. Wisniewski is an smart player who plays with good technique. Mike Pouncey is another option but I think he is strictly a guard at the next level and may be gone at this point. I watched Pouncey's first game at center this season and he struggled snapping the ball out of shotgun. With that I choose Wisneiwski as the pick. With Wisniewski on board, Garrett could move Gurode to guard or play Wisniewski at G until Gurode is gone.

  

2.60 - SS DeAndre McDaniel, Clemson - 6'1 210 lbs.

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Since Darren Woodson retired, safety has always been a need for this team. This draft offers very little in terms of good quality safeties but with Alan Ball and Gerald Sensabaugh likely gone safety is a huge need. I was one of the people calling for us to draft Morgan Burnett instead of Sean Lee last year, but with that in the past it's time to get a guy that would make players like DeSean Jackson, Steve Smith, and Santana Moss pay for going through the middle. Rahim Moore will be gone by now, Deunta Williams should fall due to injury and off the field issues. And I see Ahmad Black as a third rounder, hence DeAndre McDaniel. McDaniel plays a little bit faster than his timed speed and Rob Ryan will be able to use him immediately on the field. He can come up and make a hit and has enough ability to make plays on the ball.

Here we decide to make a trade with the Chargers to pick up another 3rd round and swap 6th round picks for the rest of our draft.

3rd (71), 4th (109), 6th (171), & 7th (210) for Chargers 3rd (82, 89), (178)

3.82 - FS/CB Ras-I Dowling, Virginia 6'2'' 205 lbs.

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Here's a guy who a few months ago was rated as a 1st round corner and his stock has taken a dip. I've seen him going in third rounds in some recent mock drafts. Dowling is big, tall corner than could even make the move to free safety. He was a teammate of former Virginia corner Chris Cook who we were high on, so I know the scouts have taken a look at him. He and Akwasi instantly provide some flexibility as player that could play both safety and corner. Rob Ryan likes to play a three safety look at times and Ras-I can be the perfect hybrid for that.

We make another trade, this time with Buffalo and get an extra pick for trading down 10 spots.

3rd (89) for 4th (99) & 5th (130)

4.99 -  ILB Kelvin Sheppard, LSU - 6'3'' 240 lbs.

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Bradie James has been a solid starter for the Cowboys, nothing great but an above average player in this league. His contract is up after this coming season and it is time to find his successor. Where better than his alma matter. In comes Kelvin Sheppard, who was a fiery and emotional leader for the Tigers. With Keith Brooking likely on the way out and Sean Lee sure to take over the reins, ILB is a spot the will likely need some depth behind the two starters.

5.130 - G William Rackley, Lehigh - 6'4'' 310 lbs.

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Hudson Houck gets a small school prospect for the interior offensive line. William Rackely may go in the fourth, but lets hope he slides seeing that he never played at Lehigh. He offers some potential to kick inside and develop as a future starting guard, according to Wes Bunting. With Wisniewski already on board, Rackley can wait to develop behind Montrea Holland.


6.178 - WR Jeff Maehl, Oregon - 6'1'' 184 lbs.

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Almost every mock on BTB has Aldrick Robinson taken as the late round slot receiver, so lets change it up. How about Jeff "The" Maehl(man), a slot receiver who will deliver on Sundays (yeah that's a lame joke, I know). We can use this late round pick to build some depth at a weak spot on the roster. If Roy Williams and Sam Hurd are not on the roster next season like expected, the receiving corp may look thin behind Miles Austin and Dez Bryant. I think a slot receiver is more of an urgent late round need than a third back. Kevin Ogletree is a player who has flashed some potential but is still can't be counted on yet. While Patrick Crayton ran his mouth, he still was pretty productive as a 3rd receiver. At worst the Maehl man delivers some depth to a position where Manny Johnson, Jesse Holley, and Teddy Williams finished the season on the 53 man roster.

Draft Recap and Free Agent Period

In this draft, the Cowboys hope to have 4 players who could become starters within two years. Carimi, Wisniewski, and McDaniel could start from day one, while Sheppard backs up Bradie James until he departs for free agency. Rackley will take over at guard once Gurode's starting days are over, if he doesn't win the job initially. Ras-I will be utilized by Rob Ryan in various sub-packages and will be a rotational player, and best case scenario he takes over for Newman at cornerback next season. Jeff Maehl will hope to provide a Blair White type option from the slot and will battle Ogletree for playing time until one of them separates themselves from the other.

Free Agents We Should Resign:

LT Doug Free, DE Stephen Bowen, DE Marcus Spears

Free Agents Who Should Go:

FS Alan Ball, SS Gerald Sensabaugh, WR Sam Hurd, DE Jason Hatcher, LG Kyle Kosier, OT Alex Barron, QB Chris Griesen

Players Under Contract Who Should Be Cut or Seek a Trade:

RB Marion Barber, WR Roy Williams, ILB Keith Brooking (stay on as a coach?), RT Marc Colombo, RG Leonard Davis, DE Igor the Russian Dancing Bear

Signings:

You might be wondering why the defensive line get a high draft choice during the draft. With the RT, both Guards, ILB, CB/FS and SS addressed; free agency can focus on making a splash with the CBA being an issue we should try and go for quality and not quantity. The remaining holes in the starting lineup are at S and DL. By splash I don't mean Haloti Ngata, Lamar Woodley, or Nnamdi Asomugha (even though I wouldn't be opposed to getting another elite player outside Ware and Rat) but this seems unrealistic and far too expensive. But IF a guy like Cullen Jenkins (who is a tier below elite) hits the free agent market we should go after him. Same goes for Richard Seymour and Sean Ellis, although early indications are that the Raiders plan to bring back Seymour. Ellis may be a possbility since the Jets have 16 other players becoming free agents. Paul Soliai and Aubrayo Franklin are also options if Ryan plans to move Ratliff to defensive end, even though I think Brent is capable to play run downs However, we decide to sign 30 year old Cullen Jenkins.

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Speaking of the Raiders, Ryan may like to bring in a familiar face like Michael Huff to run the secondary. Brodney Pool and Dawan Landry may also be considered if Huff goes back to Oakland. Pool and Landry have played with Rex Ryan so they know the defense Rob likes to play for the most part. I like the signing of Huff in the short term since he already knows the Rob and can line up at safety right away unlike a rookie. Ryan can also use Akwasi, Huff, McDaniel, or Dowling in his three safety looks; these guys have enough athletic ability to lineup in various places. With the CBA likely limiting the amount of cap space the Cowboys would like to work with to sign Jenkins and Huff, Jerry can get creative to create enough space to get these guys on board like restructuring contracts (Romo and Ware). We also save money by releasing some of our players (ie. Barber).


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Here's what the roster would look like with these acquisitions:

Offense (25)

QB (3): Romo, Kitna, McGee                                            OT (4): Free, Carimi, Young, Parnell

RB (3): Jones, Choice, Miller                                     OG (4): Wisniewski, Holland*, Rackley*, Brewster

WR (5): Austin, Bryant, Ogletree, Maehl, Holley             C (2): Gurode, Costa

TE/FB (4): Witten, Bennett, Phillips, Gronkowski

Defense (24)

NT (2): Ratliff, Brent                                                MLB (4): James, Lee, Sheppard, Cummings

DE (4): C. Jenkins, Spears, Bowen, Lissemore    CB (5): Jenkins, Newman, Scandrick, Dowling, McCann

OLB (4): Ware, Spencer, Butler, Williams           S (5): Huff, AOA*, McDaniel*, McCray, Church/Sendejo

Key: Starters, * Denotes a camp battle

This free agent and rookie class focuses on the middle of the offense and defense. The Cowboys have enough flash and skill players on offense such as Miles, Dez, and Felix; so I made the O-line a priority. They will struggle early on, but lets hope they gel and become a strength for team for year to come. The defense is littered with first round draft picks and other quality talents like Ware, Newman, Jenkins, Spears, Spencer, Ratliff, James, and Lee that Ryan has yet to work with previously in his career. These players obviously have talent and it didn't just disappear in one offseason. I'm impressed by the staff Garrett put together and I think they can mold this team into a tough playoff team won't shoot themselves in the foot.

So what do you think? Are there too many rookies on the offensive line? Not enough change on the front seven? Did I make some unrealistic trades? Are Jenkins and Huff a pipe dream? Give me your feedback.

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I wouldn’t mind taking Tyron Smith @ #9….With him Replacing Colombo and Holland Replacing Davis, Dallas could Resign Koiser(remember he makes the Line calls for Gurode)

However if New England Calls us and Offers that I would Have to seriously consider it but I do not actively seek it out. Want I am saying is I would have the Card filled out, but wouldn’t turn it in until the last 30 seconds.

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by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 15, 2011 11:13 PM CST reply actions  

I started writing this post before Tyron Smith reportedly weighed at 300+

But if New England or San Diego comes calling we could potentially not only replace Colombo but also Kosier for the forseeable future. It’s almost a two lineman for one type deal.

If we got an offer like this, which is a longshot seeing as it is from New England, would you turn down two picks in the 1st round?

by starmesh23 on Feb 15, 2011 11:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Like I said

I would Seriously Consider it… but considering that most mocks have the O-line run happening around the 17th pick…I would take it and not look back.

Just to play Devil’s Advocate what if New England presented this offer which I feel would be more their style:

Dallas gives up 9, 41, 137, 169=1902.3
Receives New Englands 17, 28, 60= 1910

Like I said this I feel would be more New England style as it Looks like a Good Deal in that not only does Dallas get the “better deal” but has to give up an extra pick. Would you take that Deal if New England Offered it? Conversely If Dallas offered it would you take it if you were New England?

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by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 16, 2011 12:54 AM CST up reply actions  

That could be a reality

If there were someone they had their eye on in the top ten

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by markdamack on Feb 16, 2011 8:34 AM CST up reply actions  

For Dallas I would take this in a Heartbeat...

17 and 28 are perfect spots to address the o-line… (Carimi and Pouncey?) and still move up in the second to snag a solid DL or OLB.

For NE I would take it, but I don’t think Belichick will. I just don’t see the Pats trading up. It’s not impossible, just not their MO. I think Dareus would have to be available for them to make the jump, maybe Quinn. The Pats will trade down, but I bet they do it one trade at a time trying to extract an extra pick with each trade (or a future pick). Your idea is right though, the Pats covet quantity over quality of draft picks. Four for three just might do it.

by SteveSteve on Feb 23, 2011 1:06 AM CST up reply actions  

I do think the Cowboys and Pats will be trade partners this year though...

Insert disclaimer about no CBA…

As a cowboys fan in Maine I follow both teams, and I think something like this happens…

Mankins is done in NE. Pats wont pay 10 mil to keep him franchised and Mankins wont sign an offer after the last year. It’s too bad for the Pats because Mankins is a beast. Nasty energy on the line, NEVER injured… just tough. This was a tag and trade deal. I am leary of paying free agents but Mankins is worth the Money for a five year deal.

The 3rd year, two time pro bowl (although its a little of a mystery how) safety Merriweather is on the outs in NE. He makes a few mental mistakes, takes a few bad angles, etc, but is a solid safety who hits like a truck. The Pats fired their Safety coach who by all accounts wasn’t very good. Many think that a better coach can correct Merriweathers issues and allow him to become the the elite safety the Pats envisioned when they took him in the first round a few years back. However, Meriweather has made the cardinal mistake in the Pats system, he has one year left on his contract. This means they trade him while he has future value.

So what I envision is something along the lines of: Pats send Mankins, Meriweather and the #17 pick to Dallas for the #9 and #40 or #9 and 2012 1st Round. This is basically the equivalent of paying a second round pick for Mankins and Meriweather. Again, Mankins will cost a little money to sign (45 Mil over 6 years?) but Romo stays standing a lot more and the run game improves.

Two big holes filled by trading down to where the Boys want to pick their OT anyway and a #40 pick for a safety that is likely as good as any in this draft class.

by SteveSteve on Feb 23, 2011 1:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Neither one of those players has any surplus trade value. Read FiTT’s fanpost about maximizing value under the cap. That’d be a horrible trade for the Cowboys.

Squish.

by Squishmytomato on Feb 23, 2011 2:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Can't find the fanpost...

I am not familiar with this concept of "surplus trade value so I would love to read it. Can you give me the actual tag line of the post, I can’t find it. I may be slow… It’s cold up here in Maine in February.

by SteveSteve on Feb 23, 2011 2:41 AM CST up reply actions  

ditto

surplus trade value?? what do i need to learn?

by the_hat on Feb 23, 2011 5:08 AM CST up reply actions  

very funny about the cardinal mistake ...

although i envy the pats horse-trading ability.

by the_hat on Feb 23, 2011 5:13 AM CST up reply actions  

NE trade

I think we might trade with NE, but it won’t be “trading down.”

While I would like to trade down in the 1st, I don’t see it happeneing with NE. However, if we don’t because a blue chipper falls to #9, I could see NE trading down from their second 1st round pick (I believe #28) and Dallas trading up so they can snag one of the remaining Top OT prospects.

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by Kegbearer on Feb 23, 2011 2:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Quite Possible,

But only if NE gets their OT at 17.

by SteveSteve on Feb 24, 2011 9:41 PM CST up reply actions  

good

but im not into trading down anymore
take Smith at 9 and call it a night

by Archie Barberio on Feb 15, 2011 11:30 PM CST reply actions  

Smith could very well go from a reach

to a value once he blows up at the Combine like Bunting is predicting. Do you like the rest of the draft?

by starmesh23 on Feb 15, 2011 11:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I think so too

I can just see Houck and Woicik each grinning like kids on Christmas if Dallas Landed Smith…

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by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 16, 2011 12:59 AM CST up reply actions  

As for the Rest of the Draft....

I like but would make 2 Changes…

1) Instead of William Rackley I would pick Lester Jean…From what I read from Wes Bunting he sounds like a great 3/4th WR and gunner which brings me to

2) John Mofitt- if you are going to get Carimi why not get his buddy the Guy he played with the person he played next to at Wisconsin? Just food for thought

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by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 16, 2011 1:17 AM CST up reply actions  

I'll look him up.

As for Moffit, I’ve seen him in many different mocks around here and I thought I would showcase a lesser known prospect for the mock.

by starmesh23 on Feb 16, 2011 1:19 AM CST up reply actions  

I figured

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by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 16, 2011 1:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I like it

I would be ok taking Smith at 9, but if we get that sort of trade offer I would jump all over it. So long as we are getting one of Smith/Carimi/Sherrod in the 1st I would be quite happy. Getting Wisniewski on top of it would be a big bonus. I do think some of the later picks are a little optimistic (most of them will probably go a full round higher than you have them), but overall I like what you’re doing here.

by Spaceball on Feb 16, 2011 1:01 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah I reached for Rackley

I had to edit my post after I published because I gave myself an extra 4th rd, where I took Rackley. That’s where I think he will go.

I think Sheppard could go in the 3rd, but I am hopefully he may fall as some teams reach for guys that other teams rate 1 or 2 rounds below where they are picked.

And Ras-I is a third rounder I think, because he is a tweener. I’ve seen him in a handfull of drafts somewhere near the third.

by starmesh23 on Feb 16, 2011 1:26 AM CST up reply actions  

I am also beginning on another draft with no trades

This draft was the Jerry Jones “I like to trade for the fun of it” mock draft.

Stay Tuned.

by starmesh23 on Feb 16, 2011 1:28 AM CST reply actions  

same "Bat time"

same “Bat channel” …..right?

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by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 16, 2011 1:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Why does no one seem to remember that Ryan BENCHED Huff not once, but twice.

I know he is a Texas boy, but I seriously doubt Rob is going to bring in a guy he would not start. Brodney Poole or Eric Coleman are much more likely.

As for your draft I like it a lot. I am not on the Tyron Smith bandwagon. I have a hard time buying the hype about a guy that has never played LT.

by BigDinLA on Feb 16, 2011 8:06 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah Brodney Pool would be a good FS candidate I mentioned him.

I went with Huff, not because he’s from Texas (not a Longhorn fan) but because he’s played for Ryan before and he knows the scheme and with the possibility of a shortened training camp, we need players to play right away.

by starmesh23 on Feb 16, 2011 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

We should go after Cromartie

I’d take him, if we could get him at a decent price.

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by markdamack on Feb 17, 2011 7:29 AM CST reply actions  

Hey BigD, no, we can't.

The Free Agency period has not started yet. That is the date after which any team can make an offer to any free agent. I don’t know the date. I think it might be March 1st. After the CBA expires, there is no Free Agency until the new CBA is signed.

All we can sign right now are players that have been cut/released.

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by fan since '65 on Feb 23, 2011 1:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes we can. Any player that was released before march 4th is eligible to be signed before March 4th.

Any players with expiring contracts are NOT eligible to be signed until after the new CBA is in place. There are over 100 FA’s available right now. This includes OJ Atogwe, Bob Sanders, and Shaun Rodgers..

Wars are won in the trenches and we need some new big uglies!

by BigDinLA on Feb 23, 2011 7:50 AM CST up reply actions  

great article but what about the patriots

who would the patriots want at #9 ? they are good in the draft and can use the extra picks just like the cowboys.

by the_hat on Feb 22, 2011 5:28 AM CST reply actions  

I think they could be enticed by a falling Julio Jones, Cam Jordan, or Von Miller.

Who knows they were the best team in the regular season last year, so maybe they feel that they are one or two impact players away. They have the ammunition in this years draft to get any player they choose.

But after checking out the patriots sb nation site, it seems like trading up goes against their organizational beliefs.

I just thought it would be an interesting experiment to try and trade down with NE or SD who have a lot of picks to manuver with.

by starmesh23 on Feb 22, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

it is an interesting experiment !

i would happily trade down myself, almost regardless of who drops to #9. thanks again for the article.

by the_hat on Feb 23, 2011 5:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Doubt Jones

The Pats have two young recievers they are still hoping will develope into something special, and I cant think of a single time the Pats traded up to take a reciever in the first round.

In my opinion only Quinn, Dareus, or Peterson could entice the Pats to jump. And that’s a big if… because you are right, trading up is not NE’s thing.

by SteveSteve on Feb 24, 2011 9:45 PM CST up reply actions  

And if you Peterson starts falling,

there is no way Dallas passes him up and would probably move up to get him if he fell to 6. Maybe Green? I feel Carolina will pass, so the Bengals and Browns are the only teams that are a potential landing spot for him in the top 10.

Also this is the offseason, where we overanalyze any unlikely scenarios. With the Patriots mentality they will find some sucker trade partner and and get a kings ransom just by trading down a few spots.

That doesn’t rule out another trade partner for Dallas like the Chargers (5 picks in the 2nd & 3rd; moved up 16 spots for Matthews last year), Dolphins (trade up for a QB like the Jets did with Sanchez), Rams (a falling wideout), etc.

by starmesh23 on Feb 24, 2011 10:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Quinn would also be a Belicheck guy.

Wars are won in the trenches and we need some new big uglies!

by BigDinLA on Feb 22, 2011 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

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