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In the continuing series of Back To Basics, I would like to take a closer look at USC OT Tyron Smith. Now I have Smith as my highest rated OT, followed by Gabe Carimi and Derek Sherrod. Earlier in one of my first Back To Basics posts, I really urged the importance of getting a RT in the draft or in free agency. Marc Columbo is done folks, he has not one, but two bad knees. Columbo is too old and banged up to even think about bringing back for another season, he has to go. And while we all love Columbo and his intensity, its time to move on. RT in my opinion is easily the biggest hole on this team. FS would be the other major hole that we have to fix as well. With the 9th pick we can get our choice of the best OT in the draft. Now opinions vary on who is actually the best OT in the draft, but for my money its Tyron Smith.

Now lets chill out on the trade down talk for this fan post. Trading down is hard to predict to start with. The Cowboys would have to find a trade partner that is willing to move up to the 9th spot, and that team would also have to be willing to pay the money of that slot to the player they select. Also trading down is a risky scenario, and I really don't want to trade down because if we trade down and we miss out on the player we were gunning for, or if there is a run on OT's and we miss out, I would be very upset. That right there could ruin our draft. So lets stay put at 9th overall and make a selection.

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Tyron Smith

Position: OT

College: USC

Height: 6'5 Weight: 291 (Scouts Inc Grade 95 #1 Rated OT)

Age: 20

 

Smith was one of the country's highest rated offensive lineman coming out of high school and heavily recruited. As a true freshmen he was the backup to Charles Brown at left tackle. Then the next two seasons he started at right tackle for USC, and is entering the draft after two highly productive seasons for USC. Now if he went back to school and entered the 2012 NFL Draft, Smith would easily be the first offensive tackle selected. So in taking Smith 9th overall, your actually getting maybe a top three pick in 2012 right now. And I keep reading on how people are nervous at putting Smith at RT this season if we draft him. I guarantee if you put Tyron Smith at RT and start him right away that he will be a productive player for you. Yes he is going to have some growing pains, every rookie does. But I really think its insane to pass on Smith, who is the most talented offensive lineman in this draft. I have been reading a lot of people who say we shouldn't take Smith because it will take him 2 years to grow and develop. I am not so sure that he would be that bad his rookie season. You would be playing him at RT, a position he has played for the last two seasons. So he is at least familiar with that position. What a lot of scouts are worried about, is moving him to left tackle his rookie season. Now if we were doing that, then I would be concerned. I have no concerns about starting Tyron Smith at RT for us in 2011. Marc Columbo was god awful and Smith would be a major upgrade at that position. Whoever the Cowboys draft for RT will be the starter, unless we hit it big in free agency. So if we are going to draft a RT and start him, I want to take the best offensive tackle in the draft. The one with the most upside and natural physical talent out there is Tyron Smith.

So lets take a look at what the drafting services and scouts are saying about Smith in his scouting report. Wes Bunting mentions that Smith is a tall and athletic offensive lineman with a great long frame, and long arms. Bunting also mentions that he has a lot of growth potential in his lower half. Also it should be easy for him to add weight and bulk because of his age, only 20 years old. Is a gifted athlete off the edge with a good natural bend. Sits in his stance and uses his long arms at the point of attack. Is a patient puncher with heavy hands and has good footwork to slide his feet. Good technique when using his hands and clean footwork. Is a gifted athlete in the run game and can get out into space to use his athleticism. Plays with good leverage and uses his arms very well. Bunting mentions that he is truly a gifted athlete that's 20 years old. Not a finished product yet, and will need to workout on his lower body and add more to his frame. His flexibility, athleticism, frame and body control are all of his best positives. Bunting also says he can develop into a very good starting OT, whether its left or right tackle it will be the position Tyron Smith is more comfortable in.

This kids best trait is pass blocking, and that's why I think it would be important to get him. Also when I read over various scouting reports on Smith, they all say the same thing and that is Smith is a physical freak who can become a premier left tackle. This kids bread and butter is pass protection. And he happens to be pretty good in the run blocking department with his athleticism allowing him to reach the second level. Now the things he has to work on is getting in the weight room and getting more lower body strength and bulk. At 20 years old, your still young enough and developing so that shouldn't be too hard. In my opinion he should come into the combine at least 300 pounds. I think he is probably around 290 something right now. Now people have compared him to Charles Brown, the USC tackle selected by the Saints last year in the 2nd round. Charles Brown is nowhere near the talent Tyron Smith is. I compared both scouting reports from various websites. Every one I read states that Tyron Smith is a physical specimen that can become a premier left tackle in the NFL. Charles Brown has good scouting reports, but isn't the same caliber of athlete Smith is and doesn't have the upside Smith has. I also heard a comment about if Smith was so good then why didn't he beat out Charles Brown? Simple, because he didn't have to. After being a true freshman, USC input Smith at the RT position and he thrived there for USC.

Throughout the past few weeks, I keep hearing comments on here relating to a players size. I really believe sometimes people put too much stock into a prospects weight or size. Yes Smith is a little undersized right now, but if we drafted him and he came into the regular season around 305-310 pounds than I would be fine with that. Smith will develop his strength, he is going to get stronger with more time in our training facilities and with the help of our coaching staff. His technique will improve with NFL coaching as well. Smith has the most upside and talent than any other offensive tackle in the draft. When you get a chance at the best offensive tackle in the draft and our biggest hole is RT, then maybe we should seriously think about drafting Tyron Smith and plugging him in at RT. Even if we got good production from him this year, that would be a win. But when 2012 comes around, he is going to be 21 years old and weigh 310 pounds. If you could put up with a year of a rookie right tackle, and then you would have one of the premier prospects in the game on your offensive line.

My NFL Comparison: D'Brickashaw Ferguson 6'6 310

Now Ferguson was basically the same type of prospect coming into the 2006 NFL Draft. He was around 297 pounds his college season and began to start adding weight before the combine. That was the knock on Ferguson, that he was too small. He was the same type of prospect Smith was, athletic and a muscular build. See I really think people need to start looking into researching players and other similar situations, instead of saying Smith is too small. I think Tyron Smith, is the next D'Brickashaw Ferguson. And I think it would make a lot of sense to draft a offensive lineman of that caliber for the Cowboys.

I have been weighing the options for Dallas the past few months, and there are so many options. Really I don't know what to really do yet. You can choose from Robert Quinn, Von Miller, Prince Amukamara, Cameron Jordan, Brandon Harris, Tyron Smith, Gabe Carimi and Derek Sherrod. Dallas has many options to choose from this draft with the 9th overall selection. Regardless of who we select, I know we will get a great player and I will be happy either way. I am just starting to believe that if we take Tyron Smith, we got our bookend offensive lineman for the next ten to twelve years. The offensive line needs some work, I don't care how many stats and numbers you throw my way. The offensive line has been ignored for too long and now we are starting to get handcuffed to need. So if indeed we are handcuffed to need with the 9th pick, then take Tyron Smith. The kid is going to be a freak. And I understand the trade down theory, sure its great to get extra picks but that's a risky play. If we move down and miss out on the OT run or the players we were targeting are gone, man that would be a disaster. For my money, I would want to get quality over quantity. I want the best football players I can get.

Picking 9th overall should get us a great football player. Tyron Smith has the talent to become a great offensive tackle. If the kid stayed in school for his senior season and then entered the 2012 NFL Draft he would have been the clear cut #1 OT. He easily then could have been a top five pick, maybe in the top three. So if the Cowboys want to go out and get a offensive lineman in the first round, then this is the player the Cowboys should get. By selecting Smith we fix a major hole on this team. With the remaining draft picks you can play around and have a little more fun because you really fixed a major hole in the first round. We could still use a guard, so maybe you find a nice guard later in the draft. We could really use safety help, so in the 2nd round you could focus on safety there. It would be risky to rely on fixing our offensive line needs in the second round. Because every year there is a offensive line run that begins in the middle of the first round and it runs through the second round. Same thing in the second round there is a offensive line run, especially with high quality guards.

Well if we take a offensive lineman in the first round, then this is the guy I want. Please feel free to discuss below. Thanks for all your feedback and rec's. Next time I will start discussing 2nd round options for us, since I have discussed about every 1st round option there is. Alright folks thanks for reading and I hope you enjoyed.

 

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I’d rather see them pick up Tony Washington from last years crop, moving down and concentrate on getting good guard play, such as Hudson from the state of Florida.

by Jes2red on Feb 3, 2011 10:36 PM CST reply actions  

I think the ship on Tony Washington has sailed.

And, I can’t see the Cowboys drafting a guard under 300 lbs. who is pretty short as well. He seems like a zone-blocking player.

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by Creasy729 on Feb 3, 2011 11:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I like Smith

I really think he is going to be a stud, and provided that he shows he can add good weight prior to the draft (i.e combine results), I would be more thank ok taking him at 9. I currently feel he is the best OT followed closely by Carimi and Sherrod. I think Carimi gives us more as a rookie and is probably a better fit at RT, but I anticipate Smith will eventually be the better player, and because of his age and athleticism has the potential to have a very long & productive career. Right now I am leaning towards Jordan as option #1, trade down for Carimi as option #2, and taking Smith as option #3. I really like Cam Jordan, but the OT need is a nagging one and it looks like it may be difficult to address it in FA or later in the draft (where the real OL value is at guard, not tackle).

by Spaceball on Feb 3, 2011 11:09 PM CST reply actions  

A few arguments here.

Smith comes from a zone blocking scheme,it would take time to get him up to speed. I personally like the man,but coming from a zone scheme and being smaller keeps him off the field next season.Jones has said that at #9 he wants immediate results.With his history of not drafting OTs in the first rd and that Smith would probably not contribute right away,I don’t see Jones making that pick. IMO Smith would be a great pick at #9,he can play both sides and he is that “Free style” of more athletic than BIG type Dallas gravitates towards.Has Jerry seen enough from Free,does Garrett have the pull,do the scouts think it wise-so that Jerry makes that choice?IDK.. Good post Chia.

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by NVCowboy4Life on Feb 4, 2011 2:07 AM CST reply actions  

I think he will drop in the draft

he is just too light and going against elite DEs who are bigger than him is going to be an issue. there is also concern in the running game at 285. does he have the natural frame to add pounds and will that impact his agility and quickness?

by CowboysFanatic on Feb 4, 2011 9:00 AM CST reply actions  

Smith's size doesn't concern me as much as Von Miller's does

If you’re going to go OT and there’s no opportunity to get out of #9, Smith has to be the guy.

I’m still hoping Jerry figures out a way to land Jordan Carimi though.

by fivetwos on Feb 4, 2011 12:43 PM CST reply actions  

Hey Chia....just for discussion sake...go back and read...

OCC’s piece from mid-November about how the scouting dept graded last year’s O-Linemen.

A guy like Anthony Davis got a third round grade.

Okung, TWilliams, and Bulaga were the OTs with 1st round grades.

I’d have to think that if Smith, at the stage he is at right now, was in last year’s draft he’d be rated by our scouts more closely to Davis than Okung or Williams.

Yeah Bulaga slipped a bit, but he starts at RT and is still playing, so he’s done something right.

Okung and Williams were no doubt about it, day one starting LTs. Smith still has somewhat of a project tag on him.

Anyway, my point is, I can’t our scouting dpt. rating a guy like Smith high enough to warrant them pulling the trigger on him at pick nine.

by fivetwos on Feb 4, 2011 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

well

dont you think its time to change our grading on lineman?
I do
our major problem is we rate OL too low

by Archie Barberio on Feb 4, 2011 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

lol yeah

honestly I think Brandon Harris is going to intruige Jerry Jones

by Archie Barberio on Feb 4, 2011 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree that the ship on Tony Washington has likely sailed, but it saddens me in so many regards. He didn’t brutally kill dogs, he isn’t having sex with men, hasn’t been involved in a murder, and he hasn’t been accused of multiple rapes like some “superstars” have been.

He could be picked up for nothing, start immediately and allow an extra draft pick to concentrate on guards, D-line, and secondary.

I find all of the medias praise for truly wicked players in the league to ring more than just a bit hollow.

Tyron is not the answer to either left or right tackle in Dallas. He is no road grader and likely never will be. Gabe would be the better option in my view for serviceable and immediate right tackle play.

by Jes2red on Feb 4, 2011 1:48 PM CST reply actions  

ugh

he had sex with his……………………….SISTER

by Archie Barberio on Feb 4, 2011 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

It’s always easy to go for the cheap and easy laugh….at someone elses expense,
That said, this article written at ESPN gave me much sympathy for the guy.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5497517

It happened once, it was consensual, they were about the same age, he was a minor.

He went from one of the top talents to just a punchline from many folks who have their own skeletons stashed away. The only difference between him and the rest of society is that his mistake didn’t remain hidden from view.

I find what he did to be disturbing, but far less disturbing than homosexuality or threatening to kill a stripper if she doesn’t take the fall for your crack cocaine.

Tony Washington is playing Arena ball, not because he isn’t talented…..but because society is hypocritical in every regard.

I’d bring him into camp for a look and see if he can’t take the place of one of our over priced, under performing “stars.”

by Jes2red on Feb 4, 2011 3:11 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I read the article

but he had sex with his SISTER
the dude is weird and messed up
no thanks

by Archie Barberio on Feb 4, 2011 8:09 PM CST up reply actions  

He was in a whole different world.

He was growing up on the streets of a big city. He/they didn’t have the advantages of going to church, a moral upbringing and being really taught right from wrong. He had 1 person he could trust, his sister. At the same time hormones were raging in both, so they turned to the 1 person each could trust. They realized it wasn’t right and it never happened again.

Do I think it is wrong? Yes. Do I understand how it could happen to a couple of confused, scared kids? Also yes.

by Rena on Feb 4, 2011 10:00 PM CST up reply actions  

ok

so being gay is worse than f’n your sister???
lmfao

by Archie Barberio on Feb 5, 2011 12:49 AM CST up reply actions  

regardless

Tony Washington is playing like Arena Football
he went to Abilene Christian
if he isnt a project then I dont know what is

by Archie Barberio on Feb 4, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Graded Pretty Well Before Last Draft

Tony Washington was downgraded to a projected 3rd – 4th rd pk because of this history if I recall.
A big, strong, athlete that refuses to give up.
Spotless record since the one time sin. All the coaches he has had vouch for both his charactor, and ability. Washington continues to lift, and work out. I believe he has earned a shot with some team. It would cost very little to try him, and he is living in Dallas.
Just my opinion… Hope he gets his chance.

Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.

by 1Bullseye on Feb 4, 2011 10:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I draw the line somewhere

and this is that line
no thanks
I could never let down the fact that my RT banged his sister
too weird and creepy for me

I dobut he would have many fans and teammates in the lockeroom either
a BIG headache that I want nooooooooo parts of

by Archie Barberio on Feb 5, 2011 12:46 AM CST up reply actions  

grading on character?

I agree that we (Dallas) seem to have a problem grading O-lineman too low. But Anthony Davis had some character issues as a prospect that could reasonably explain his 3rd round rating… I for one wasn’t sad to see us pass on Davis. Here are a few excerpts:

cbssportsline.com:

While owning the size and athleticism that all scouts love to see, Davis’ inconsistent technique, reputation as an underachiever and troubles staying at his ideal weight won’t help his draft stock. … Has had issues maintaining weight, even being demoted to second team before his senior year for reporting overweight.

cdsdraft.com:

Weaknesses: Lazy. Careless. Doesn’t dominate when he should.

fftoolbox.com:

Davis is free falling down draft boards right now. He is still one of the better offensive tackles in this class, but he is developing a reputation as a player who lacks the desire to compete at the next level.

Thanks to RabblRousr’s fine work (Scouting the Scouts) I will add the following from PFW to avoid only quoting from scouting websites that are mere “Camp Bodies”.

ProFootballWeekly.com:

There are some observers probably wondering whether the team (49ers) might have made a mistake by not taking Iowa’s Bryan Bulaga instead of Davis, whose work ethic and weight problems were red flags in the eyes of many.
and
Concerns existed about Davis’ maturity, but he is only 20 years old and could not have found a better landing spot, with Mike Singletary having proven capable of molding undisciplined talent.

by wwilbur3 on Feb 4, 2011 1:51 PM CST reply actions  

Davis is just an example. It happened through the rest of the rounds also.

I’m just saying that because of this, I have a hard time thinking they are going to bless any of these guys at nine.

I wouldn’t go breaking my TV if they selected Smith, Sherrod, or Carimi at nine. Of course I would have wished to have been able to trade down for additional picks, but that’s just greed at that point.

If that pick is used for someone who can start right away at RT, it’s worth doing.

by fivetwos on Feb 4, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

no character issues on Tyron Smith

idk I dont get it
people dont want big OL like Leonard Davis anymore, and they want more athletic OL like Doug Free
but Tyron Smith is too small
when the best part of his game is pass blocking
idk I dont get it

by Archie Barberio on Feb 5, 2011 12:50 AM CST up reply actions  

IF this guy is such a tremendous LT prospect why did he play RT at USC?

Not just why did he not beat out Brown, but after Brown left why did he not move to the LT position? He is so good they started a Sophomore over him. Sorry mighty hard to buy the hype when his own team does not seem to believe he is the real deal.

by BigDinLA on Feb 4, 2011 4:38 PM CST reply actions  

maybe he's a RT?

im starting to think you guys dont realize we need a RT

by Archie Barberio on Feb 5, 2011 12:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Trading Down

Another nice write-up, Chia, and you’ve sold me on the idea of drafting him ahead of Carimi. (I’d still rather have Jordan, but I would be happy to see Smith. Columbo was so bad that it’ll be a lot easier to upgrade that position.)

I think you’re overstating the problem of trading down, though. Play through this with with me. The Cowboys go on the clock with Jordan and the top five OT prospects are all still available. (Let’s say the scouts put 1st round grades on three of the five.) That’s four players who can immediately come in and upgrade your team. By trading down four spots, you’re still going to get one of them. In exchange for a nice pick later on, all you give up is your right to pick which of the four you start out with. You’re not really taking a big risk until you trade further back than that, and depending on what the board looks like—if you think QBs and RBs will start to come off the board—you can go a little further back without much risk. Dropping from 9 to 15 is worth about 300 points, which is a late 2nd or an early 3rd & 4th. If a trade partner can be found (that is the hard part), that’s well worth doing.

by RickT on Feb 5, 2011 10:35 AM CST reply actions  

na I feel ya

but if we move down say farther than 15, its a real risk

by Archie Barberio on Feb 5, 2011 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

If he weighs in at 300 lbs at the combine...

You can’t afford to attempt and trade down. He is 20 and has a much higher ceiling than Carimi. You take him with the 9th pick and steal a player that likely would have been a top 3 pick next year.

" A football team is a reflection of it"s coaches
personality".......... Tom Jackson

by BluStarTatoo on Feb 5, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Errr....As speculated by Wes Bunting and again by Chia at the end of this FanPost.

Sorry, I didn’t finish reading the post before commenting.

" A football team is a reflection of it"s coaches
personality".......... Tom Jackson

by BluStarTatoo on Feb 5, 2011 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Does he love football?

There’s no denying his athleticism and upside. Its the best of this year’s crop of OL. But my question is whether he loves to play? Cam Jordan appears to love to play. Carimi appears to love to play (with a mean streak). Is Tyron a freakish athlete who likes what his skills bring him or does he love the game and push himself to be the best?

I ask this in all seriousness. I don’t know the answer. If he does have that internal motor, it would be tough to pass up that combination of skill and drive. If he’s really just about skill without drive, then maybe we should go another direction at #9.

by Ridgelake on Feb 5, 2011 12:01 PM CST reply actions  

excellent question

I know Carimi and Jordan love the game
not sure about Smith, but I havent read anywhere where character like thaat was a concern

by Archie Barberio on Feb 5, 2011 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm unsure about Tyron Smith

I think the kid could be a solid RT but I would rather have Sherrod at RT it’s something about Smith that worries me I can’t ….

by "$outh$ide" Jay on Feb 6, 2011 4:55 PM CST reply actions  

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