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BTB 101: Extended Guide to Creating Killer FanPosts

Many of you have been around BTB for quite a while now, but we've also had quite a number of new members joining us. Since August 2010, we've added almost 2,000 new members here at BTB. The purpose of this post is to provide some ticks and trips on creating superior FanPosts for those of you who are new, or still not quite acclimated to the system, as well as for our regulars, who might still pick up a thing or two here.

Some of the stuff below is cobbled together from other SB nation sites, most of the specific how-to stuff is new, all of it can be useful if and when you write a PanPost. If you do find it useful, you might want to bookmark this post for later reference.

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Like it or not, to some extent you will be judged not just by the content of your FanPost, but also by the quality of your writing and its presentation. So here's an extended guide on how to make yourself look good online.

What makes a good FanPost?

  • Make It Substantial. When I say "substantial", I don't mean it has to be a dissertation or manifesto. But ideally, it should contain more than a single thought that could have just as well been made as a comment in any thread. Ignore this and you will be hunted down and/or ridiculed by our resident FanShot expert, thebigham.
  • Make It Coherent. Just to get it clear upfront, BTB is NOT a message board. It isn't a talk radio call-in show. It is not a texting platform for your cellphone. It is not a James Joyce novel where stream of consciousness writing is an acceptable form of discourse. You are much more likely to get someone to read your post if you follow some very simple rules:
  • Use proper spelling.

    - - You're not sending a text message. There's no need 4 U 2 use "time saving" abbreviations which only lessen the value of your post. It's like writing a position paper in crayon.

    - - Proper capitalization is not for wimps: random capitalization can Leave Many readers searching For hidden meaning in A sentence Or paragraph where no subtext exists.

    - - Your keyboard has feelings too. Don't type in all caps. Don't abuse the exclamation mark. Be gentle to the question mark.

    Use punctuation. You wouldn't stand up and attempt to give a speech in one breath - at least you shouldn't - and you shouldn't try to make your FanPost one big sentence that never ends.

    The paragraph is your friend. There is something about reading text online that makes reading a large block of text unpleasant and sometimes downright difficult. Use paragraphs liberally.

    Give it a descriptive headline. "BTB Poll" may, in fact, be what you are posting, but it doesn't exactly inform your potential readers what the topic is about. Your headline should be informative, above all else, with bonus points for creativity.

    Examples:

    Poor Headline: Tashard Choice!
    Good Headline: Who should start as running back for the Cowboys?

    Poor Headline: Tashard Choice?
    Good Headline: Tashard Choice Rumored To Be On The Trading Block

    Poor Headline: My thoughts.
    Good Headline: Why Tashard is the right choice for the Cowboys.

Proper Formatting

You'd be amazed how much better your piece will be received if it's formatted properly. Proper formatting is like a killer profile pic on a dating site. Nobody will read a profile that has the picture of an ugly hag on it.

Likewise, if I'm greeted by a wall of text in your FanPost, I'm probably not going to make it all the way through. Break it up. Make it more than one paragraph. Use the 'B' and 'I' buttons for bold and italic text, respectively.

If you know how to format using Microsoft Word, you can make a perfectly formatted FanPost here at BTB, no problemo:

● Write your post completely in Word, making all your formatting adjustments there.
● Highlight and Copy your work.
● Click New FanPost
● Click the "Paste From Word" icon (The ‘W’ icon in the picture below).
● Paste your content into the dialog box (The SN Nation editor automatically removes all the superfluous junk html code that Microsoft loves so much).
● Done

Fanpost_medium_medium

Adding Pictures

Pictures, although intended to break up the monotony of a piece of text, often make reading even harder because they simply interrupt your piece of prose instead of being an integral part of it. Here are two very simple ways to make your pictures go with the flow, slow and low, that is the tempo...

Flowing text around your picture: When you add a picture to your post and switch to the 'HTML View' tab of the SB Nation editor, you'll find a piece of html code that looks something like this:

<img src="http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/295773/BTB_draft_medium.jpg"/>

Now add class="left" into the code as follows:

<img src="http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/295773/BTB_draft_medium.jpg" class="left" />

This positions the picture on the left side of the post and your text flows around it. You can have the picture on the right of your post as well, in that case the additional code would be class="right". You want it smack in the middle but without the text flowing around it? Add align="center" into the code.

Manage your picture size: Sometimes you want to add a picture that turns out to be so big it disrupts the flow of your post or simply takes up a lot of the screen. Adding a HEIGHT or WIDTH attribute to the image tag will prevent your image from taking up an ungodly amount of the screen.

<img src="http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/295773/BTB_draft_medium.jpg" height=200 />

Use the PREVIEW button at the bottom of the Editor screen to preview your post and see whether the new size works for you. Perhaps it should be only 150? Or 250? Try it out and see what the effect is.

NOTE: This does not change the KB size of your image, just the display size. Please try to avoid posting images over 100 KB at all times. It's a common courtesy to those with slower connections. Also, particularly in open game threads, please avoid posting images over 50 KB. Large images slow down threads and make them a pain to follow. If an image in a game thread is too large, the comment may be deleted by me personally or another admin.

Adding Data Tables

Tables are the worst nuisance you will encounter when writing a FanPost. Copy/pasting from Excel is an endless hassle and the html editor will always kill your carefully formatted table.

But there is one very simple solution to your table needs:

● Copy the table you have prepared from your spreadsheet.
● Go to a nifty little site called Tableizer.
● Paste your data from Excel, Calc or another spreadsheet into the form provided and press the 'Tableize It!' button
● Copy the html code the site gives you and paste that code into the 'HTML View' tab of your SB Nation editor.

Unfortunately, you're not quite done yet. For technical reasons, some of the generated code will not work in an SB Nation FanPost. The code you have just copy/pasted into your 'HTML View' tab contains a piece of code that starts and ends with "style".

<style type="text/css">
table.tableizer-table {border: 1px solid #CCC; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;} .tableizer-table td {padding: 4px; margin: 3px; border: 1px solid #ccc;}
.tableizer-table th {background-color: #104E8B; color: #FFF; font-weight: bold;}
</style>

Delete that whole thing. With these easy steps, you have just created a basic table that could look something like this:

Data Column 1 Column 2 Column 3
First Row 1 2 3
Second Row 4 5 6

And now for some very basic tips to make you look like an html genius. Unfortunately, the stuff you just deleted contains at least one important piece of code. You'll notice that the table above has no borders. You'll also notice that the table is a bit compact. We'll fix both of those things in one go. Open the 'HTML View' tab again. Look for the line that stars with '<table class ...' and add border="1" and width="50%" to the code as follows:

<table class="tableizer-table" border="1" width="50%">
Data Column 1 Column 2 Column 3
First Row 1 2 3
Second Row 4 5 6

Your table should now look something like the table above, with borders and a little more room for the numbers. The width percentage indicates how much of the page-width the table should take up, the maximum is obviously 100%.

But now you begin to notice that the individual data cells are currently all aligned to the left. In this example, we're going to align them to the right. The example below shows the code for the first row of the table, and adds align="center" to the code (you could also use "right"):

<td align="center">1</td>
<td align="center">2</td>
<td align="center">3</td>

Want to add color? Simply pick the cell you want to highlight and add e.g. bgcolor="yellow" or any of the thousands of html color codes you can find on a site like this handy HTML Color Code Picker. Let's say you want the three highlighted in yellow, and the six highlighted in a light green. This would be your code:

<td align="center" bgcolor=yellow">3</td> ... and a little further down ... <td align="center" bgcolor="lightgreen">6</td>

Ultimately, below is what your table could look like.

Data Column 1 Column 2 Column 3
First Row 1 2 3
Second Row 4 5 6

At the bottom of your SB Nation editor window is a yellow button named "Show Editor Help >>". If you click on that and then click on the tab "Style Tips" you'll get even more options for your tables.

Including a video

Videos1_medium There are two basic ways to include a video in your fanshot.

The recommended way is to use the Inserts function provided in your SB Nation Editor. The right side of your editor screen should look something like the image on the right.

I've circled the little TV icon in the image on the right. If you press that icon, a screen pops up asking you for the URL of your video or the EMBED code.

The easiest way is to simply copy the URL (e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1YDxdCx8-Q) and paste it into the URL line of the pop-up window.

Alternatively: video sites like youtube all have a little embed button under the videos they host. Press that embed button and the site gives you a piece of code that you copy and then paste into the SB Nation pop-up window in the EMBED line. This is an example of what the embed code could look like:

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/l1YDxdCx8-Q?rel=0&hd=1" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I've run into a little trouble on occasion with the EMBED code, but that may just be me. Regardless of how you do it, your post could now include a video like this:


Hit The Preview Button often and hard

Here is the most important button to use while composing a FanPost:

Preview_medium

As you're typing your opus and long before you pushing the big green Publish button, please push the orange Preview one. Repeatedly. It's a good way to make sure your formatting looks the way you expected, your images are where you want them and your table is not a jumbled mess.

Finally, you are ready to click PUBLISH and share your wisdom with the world. Good luck!

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Thanks OCC

lots of useful info here….Oh and the random caps thing….I know you were thinking of me…haha

formerly I draft the Cowboys!!!
Yes...I am Ironman....seriously my last name is ironman in German

Knowledge and Skill overcome superstition and Luck-Dawn Patrol

by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 4, 2011 8:40 AM CST reply actions  

FanShot

You aint been around in awhile, maybe you haven't heard........I don't shine shoes no more

by markdamack on Feb 4, 2011 9:32 AM CST reply actions  

I kid!!!

lol, I couldn’t resist. Very informative, good job. On top of everything, it just makes BTB a little more classier

You aint been around in awhile, maybe you haven't heard........I don't shine shoes no more

by markdamack on Feb 4, 2011 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

OCC got tired of looking at my crappy tables over at BGN, so he sent me the tableizer link. It’s my new best friend.

Allow me to add one more thing… The jump. The jump is your friend. Use it. When you you visit any of the SB Nation sites in the fanpost section from a mobile device, if you don’t use the jump, your entire article will appear without the “continue reading this post” option, and it’s a nuisance scrolling past it. We have offenders of that on BGN, and there’s the legendary BTB poster (forget his name, haha) that writes those 20,000 word books that take a half hour just the scroll past.

http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/

by JimmyK on Feb 4, 2011 9:35 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

ha ha ha. Yeah, I usually edit the fanposts that don’t have the jump, but some get by me.

by One.Cool.Customer on Feb 4, 2011 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed. Crazy Canton Cuts I think… beyond annoying.

http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/

by JimmyK on Feb 4, 2011 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Speaking of that name

Apparently Charles Haley isn’t going into the HoF this year, I thought he would be a lock. According to Rick Gosselin (who basically pleads the case for Cowboys to the HoF board) he’s not. He feels Dent will get in this year over Haley. Also, he said not one time has “ring of honor” or anything ever come up in the discussion over who should go in the HoF for the Cowboys or any team for that matter. I always thought the same thing, "if they aren’t in their own teams ring of honor, or whatever they may have, how could they make the HoF, but according to him it’s never even come up.

You aint been around in awhile, maybe you haven't heard........I don't shine shoes no more

by markdamack on Feb 4, 2011 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

wow well we will know here soon.

I recommend going if a favorite player or coach is going, I kknow ill defn be there for Witten.

by thebigham on Feb 4, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Maaan.. you've really outdone yourself here @ BTB

I’m trying to remember the pre-OCC days.. haha

Anyway that this can be made a sticky? Perhaps have it’s own column on the front page, with a series of helpful info?

FEAR the STAR.

by .FRoST.USAF on Feb 4, 2011 9:52 AM CST reply actions  

the pre-OCC days...

…were terribly Medieval. Lots of toothless, wormy peasants crawling around in the muck.

Now, we have shiny skyscrapers and clear, precise tables!

by rabblerousr on Feb 4, 2011 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for the love,

I been neglecting BTB for awhile(Playing my first MMO, DCUO, will do that) but it seems there has been a TON of killer Fanpost. Props to everyone, I’m loving it. They are out doing some front page articles!

My main thing is the CBA, its putting a damper on things for me. Its hard to look forward to something if you don’t even know it will happen or change rules.

Thanks OCC this was great, BTB is great, and everyone contributing is great.

JG is undefeated in 2011!

by thebigham on Feb 4, 2011 12:07 PM CST reply actions  

Figure my screwups caused OCC some work

My apologies for the work you had to put in, OCC. Including putting together this post, though it brings a pile of valuable info to light and is much appreciated by myself (and I’m sure others,as well).

Appreciate you giving the table-related info. If I’d known it before it would have saved a pile of manual html-work (and likely prevented the table/poll screwup?). Sure would’ve made the job easier.

Tried previewing the post beforehand, but the preview just kept coming up with the SB main page, not the preview. Spent hours after posting it and seeing the screwup trying to figure out why the table and poll overlaid each other, but didn’t see the problem. So I appreciate your work in sorting it out. I am curious what it was specifically though, if you’d care to say, please?

Point After (rule change): You score, you kick. Debate welcomed.

by tanstaafl on Feb 4, 2011 12:29 PM CST reply actions  

No, no, no

This is not about calling you or anybody else out. The purpose here is simply to help save all our FanPosters a little time and lots of aggravation. If I’ve offended anybody, or somebody feels this is aimed at him or her personally, I apologize profusely.

Spent hours after posting it and seeing the screwup trying to figure out why the table and poll overlaid each other, but didn’t see the problem” This is exactly what I hope this post will address, a little at least.

On your post specifically, I’m not exactly sure what went wrong with the poll/table overlay. But it was probably because you had two separate tables (one of which was extraordinarily large) that somehow screwed up the system. I merged “Tiger” into the main table, and everything worked well after that.

by One.Cool.Customer on Feb 4, 2011 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Didn't take it as a "call out", OCC

To me or anyone else. I was just expressing thanks for your help, to me and everyone. And your help in providing this post goes a long ways in preventing the aggravations this internet thing causes many of us.

Thanks for the info on what you did to fix the table/poll problem. Noticed the consolidation into one table and thought it was to clean up the look and make the info more presentable. Hadn’t tried that in trying to resolve the problem. I figured it was something to do with the muddled html and volume and the way this system worked interpreting it, but just couldn’t see it. So thanks again for straightening it all out.

You have no reason whatsoever to apologize, to me or anyone. Believe me, I wasn’t offended in any way and I seriously doubt anyone else possibly could be by your post and the immense help it and you are to us.

Point After (rule change): You score, you kick. Debate welcomed.

by tanstaafl on Feb 4, 2011 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't sweat it

He has to reformat every one of mine…

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Feb 5, 2011 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

But that's to be expected...

Just great, now I’m classed with…

Point After (rule change): You score, you kick. Debate welcomed.

by tanstaafl on Feb 5, 2011 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Astonishing!

"....the Cowboy way...." (Head Coach, Jason Garrett)

by BishopWest on Feb 4, 2011 3:05 PM CST reply actions  

Astonishing!

"....the Cowboy way...." (Head Coach, Jason Garrett)

by BishopWest on Feb 5, 2011 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Astonishing...

OCC needed to fill us clueless ones in (speaking for myself, no one else) or the quality of the post? If the second, and maybe because I expect much of people and he never fails to live up to it, I find “astonishing” arguable. Not that I’d ever look for a debate. Esp not with one who’s made me look the part of the fool two many times.

Point After (rule change): You score, you kick. Debate welcomed.

by tanstaafl on Feb 5, 2011 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

very nice post

but some of us dont have that kind of time and squeeze this in when we get a few extra minutes.

by Coakey on Feb 4, 2011 3:33 PM CST reply actions  

which is perfectly fine. But if you do want to add a table or picture one of these days, you’ll know where to look.

by One.Cool.Customer on Feb 4, 2011 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Long overdue "Posting for Dummies" article....thank you OCC

Inserting images

They always seem to insert at the top of the text and I have to manually copy and paste them into the correct positions. What am I doing wrong?

Inserting videos from YouTube or other sites

Can you cover that in some detail as well?

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Feb 5, 2011 10:33 AM CST reply actions  

I cant even figure out really how to move images to be honest

inserting videos is easy actually
copy the video url, and click on the video add in feature on the top right of the editor screen
insert url in the url line, and load video
it inserts the video at the top, so what i do is copy and paste it towards the bottom of my post then I cut the video that they put on the top

by Archie Barberio on Feb 5, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

now

what I cant figure out is how to make the video larger in the html view
thats tricky for me

you can embed the video also, which I have major problems with doing in editor
half the time they didnt even show up when I published so I just used the url method

by Archie Barberio on Feb 5, 2011 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Don't bother...

Video resolutions, for the most part, are low-quality and not worth scaling up. Besides, it’ll likely do nothing more than cause grief all around, for you, the look, others, the works.

Save yourself the pain.

Point After (rule change): You score, you kick. Debate welcomed.

by tanstaafl on Feb 5, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Insert a...

qualifier in the “img src” definition.

img class=“photo; left” src=“whatever-url” (note: enclosed in < >, naturally)

That what you were getting at? Having text sidelined to left or right?

Again, thanks to OCC. I’ve let this html stuff slide from my mind, did a brain dump years ago.

Point After (rule change): You score, you kick. Debate welcomed.

by tanstaafl on Feb 5, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Video how-to is now included in the post

As to your image question, the only thing I can say is that the image is always inserted at the exact spot where your cursor is located. It then pushes all the text below the cursor further down.

If you open your fanpost to edit it and try to insert an image without placing your cursor where you want the picture to be inserted, the picture will automatically be inserted at the very top (default cursor position if you don’t move it somewhere else).

by One.Cool.Customer on Feb 5, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

And therein lies my problem...

I put the cursor at the exact point that I want to see the photo and then go to the appropriate icon and it just sticks it right at the top of the post.

Strange, eh?

"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."

- John Wooden (God rest his soul)

by 5Blings on Feb 5, 2011 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

You may have to burn you computer. It may be possessed by the demon.

by One.Cool.Customer on Feb 5, 2011 5:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Ya know, Chia, you show some football smarts at times, definite passion for the game, make some good points and some not so much ones (like all of us), but you really need to get beyond this propensity for insult to other people you have.

It detracts from the points you seek to make much of the time.

And just in case it matters (which it doesn’t, btw), since this is coming on yet another of your Wade comments, I’m a lanky WR/CB build.

Point After (rule change): You score, you kick. Debate welcomed.

by tanstaafl on Feb 6, 2011 9:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Since when did the internet become serious?

We all joke around at times I’m sure he’s just kidding man. I think Chia posts some great stuff. Silly comments to get some laughs out won’t make me think less of his posts. Good place to come relax and kid around while talking Cowboys is BTB. Lets not make this place a business meeting.

Follow me on twitter

by Jeterian 2 on Feb 6, 2011 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

This is just a guess, but I think if you insert the picture in the “HTML View” tab instead of the “Visual View” tab it should work.

by One.Cool.Customer on Feb 6, 2011 1:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Long overdue OCC.

It would be nice to add another tab on the front page between “Fanshots” and “Archive” labeled “FAQ” or “Guidelines”. Make it only editable by the main writers/editors. This article, the community guidelines and any other exceptionally useful articles could be placed there for easy viewing by new and old. Otherwise, they just get buried or stuck with a hyperlink down at the bottom of the page that most people rarely scroll down to.

Rabid and luvin' it

by lonewolfz28 on Feb 5, 2011 1:48 PM CST reply actions  

This

That way, as things change or new stuff comes along, the post itself could be updated.

You could also put in handy things like that great “Let me Google that for you” trick.

And by the way, OCC, thanks for all the work sharing all you smarts, not just here but in all your excellent work.

You the mensch.

If at first you don't succeed - blame someone else.

by Tom Ryle on Feb 5, 2011 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree.

I wish this post could stay at the top all the time. So many crappy fanposts and rehashes of something that’s already been posted on here that it’s almost not worth it to pay attention to the fanposts/fanshots section.

"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel

by TXHC on Feb 5, 2011 5:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Crap, hit post too soon...

This post should be required reading.

"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel

by TXHC on Feb 5, 2011 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

You clever devil you :)
- – Proper capitalization is not for wimps: random capitalization can Leave Many readers searching For hidden meaning in A sentence Or paragraph where no subtext exists

Semper Fi Do or Die

by Jeremiah_24 on Feb 7, 2011 3:17 PM CST reply actions  

Phew!

Finally, somebody noticed!

by One.Cool.Customer on Feb 7, 2011 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I noticed...

And I have been working on it OCC….

formerly I draft the Cowboys!!!
Yes...I am Ironman....seriously my last name is ironman in German

Knowledge and Skill overcome superstition and Luck-Dawn Patrol

by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 7, 2011 7:29 PM CST up reply actions  

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