BTB NFL Draft Mailbag: Falling Defensive Ends?

Would Quinn even be an upgrade over Spencer? If you look at his numbers they look awfully Similar to Spencer’s….

Quinn:
Height: 6-4
Weight: 265
40 Yrd Dash: 4.62
20 Yrd Dash: 2.67
10 Yrd Dash: 1.61 225 Lb. Bench Reps: 22
Vertical Jump: 34
Broad Jump: 09’08"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.40
3-Cone Drill: 7.13

Spencer:

Height: 6-2
Weight: 261
40 Yrd Dash: 4.70
20 Yrd Dash: 2.74
10 Yrd Dash: 1.64 225 Lb. Bench Reps: 30
Vertical Jump: 32 1/2
Broad Jump: 09’04"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.43
3-Cone Drill: 7.14

Do we really what to spend the #9 pick on another “Almost” Anthony?

I just put up a new Mock (Where I pretend to be Jason Garrett) i would like to get your Opinion on it if you don’t mind….

the guy has top tier talent
he has showed it before so I think you have to roll with him another year, especially under Rob Ryan
if he doesnt perform, fine we move on and look for a OLB in next years draft or free agency
I think Spencer is actually going to have a good year, its just a hunch
but again I am tired of waiting for him to breakout

i loved Quinn but he really turned me off during the combine, like what has he been doing for a year? Marvin Austin was in the same situation and showed up in amazing shape, he had a great combine
Quinn really should have blown the doors off the combine but he didnt

then you got questions about motivation, skill level, is he going to develop? does he have a higher ceiling? or is he the next Maybin or Gholston?
I mean you watch this guy on tape and he flys around, but ran a 4.7? had a really weak vertical too

alot of red flags there and I would rather play it safe with the 9th pick, or some what safer

but the O-line is a mess. Jerry needs to fix the glaring problem on the right side of the O-line or we’ll be watching the games with Romo in street clothes again. Without Romo at QB, this team has no chance of winning anything. I hope Jerry shotguns the draft with multi O-lineman picks.

We would need to have someone behind him who we thought was compitent enough to fill in. I know that Victor Butler has made the most out of his small opportunities, but how is he against the run. Anthony Spencer does contribute agains the run and he is more dominant than Ware. But because we put more of an emphasis on the sacks than the run “Von Miller”, that is why we think Spencer is approaching the bust mark. I wouldn’t mind giving Butler a try to see what he is about. I just don’t want them sacrificing the run to get a couple more sacks. We would also need to draft for that position kinda high up to get a plan “b” in place too. Next year, I would probably put that up on the list of needs. I think we have other glaring holes that need to be fixed. Also, Spencer is still in his rookie contract and it’s cheaper to keep him than to create a hole that right now isn’t the worst thing in the world.

Look at his PFF analytics against the run. He has better run stopping stats than Ware. I think maybe he might do better in a 4-3 scheme or maybe a ILB…

We just can’t discredit what Anthony Spencer does bring to to the table when it comes to our defense. Again, we just put more emphasis on our OLB’s to generate sacks and not worry about the run.

One you can’t compare Spencer straight up to James Harrison, Clay Matthews, or Terrell Suggs. His role in the Cowboys’ defense is completely different than their roles in their respective defenses. In 2009 he racked up more tackles than Ware and was far better at getting hits per rush than Ware was. Which is not to say he’s as good as Ware, but he’s still got much more potential than most of you are giving him credit for.

Furthermore, in Matthews’ case, Anthony Spencer doesn’t have BJ Raji at Nose Tackle, nor does he have a defensive end as good as Cullen Jenkins or Ryan Picket to soak up blockers. As to Woodley, he’s playing behind Casey Hampton who constantly demands double teams and soaks up blockers. Just because Spencer plays SOLB in a 34 defense doesn’t mean that his role is the same as other SOLBs in every other 34 defense. The DL sucked pretty hard and the secondary isn’t capable of covering anyone. He still excelled against the run, he won’t be Clay Matthews, but then again he doesn’t have to be. He plays opposite of Demarcus Ware, his role is completely different. I’m with Keg, I think he’ll be a very productive player in the new system with a more motivated team and a better defensive line. He won’t be Matthews or Ware, but he doesn’t have to be.

Side note: if you want to replace him with Von Miller, I’m all for it. Just not Da’quan Bowers or Robert Quinn, for now.

No thanks… I’ll pass. That and the fact that he is not the best in pass coverage. Id rather keep Anthony Spencer.

If we didn’t have any real glaring holes, then I would say take a chance on him and let him develop. But we need a RT NOW. Can’t waste time on a project right now.

We could get Carimi in the first?

The only one I like at 9 is prince. But even his opportunity cost is too high.

yeah, he has a weight problem but since the combine when he showed up in great shape for a guy his size I am pretty confident you can work his body down a little
1-he played LT for TCU this season, which is amazing to me because you think he would be slow and fat, he actually has really good footwork
2-He can play RT and RG in the NFL, depending on what that team needs, you plug him in
3-He is big, size cannot be taught and is pretty athletic man, did you watch the combine when he lossed a few pounds? he could really move well

I think Cannon is a 2nd round pick and a good one because the guy has versatility he is strong and has really good feet

now am I saying Cannon is a LT? Lord no, but I do believe he is a really good RG in the making or a good RT

Marcus Gilbert is another guy I think the Cowboys are interested in because he played LT for Florida, the Cowboys LOVE versatile players
you must consider not only are we looking for a RT, we are looking for a swing tackle who can also play LT

I think that is a major component of drafting a OT this year that is kind under the surface
we need a kid who can start at RT, but at the same time have some experiance playing LT just IN case we need to plug him in IF Free goes down

I mean personally I love Tyron Smith right, I would plug him in at RT but say we move Free back to RT because Smith is the better LT
at this point we dont know who has the better skills for LT
but remember how domiant we were with Free at RT? If we get a RT and have Free, this offense will be humming

1. He’s NOT still recovering from knee surgery. He had a partly torn meniscus in a knee, played half the season on it (and got about half his sacks on it), got the surgery to fix it immediately in the offseason, and is completely healed. The only reason he did not do a full workout at the combine was because he had only been back in training for 3 weeks, while the other guys had about 8-9 weeks. He wanted to give himself a better chance so he’s waiting until this week for his pro day to work out fully.
2. He’s an AWFUL fit for our scheme. Maybe a really creative guy like The Dude Ryan would be able to figure out how to use him in it, but he’s a 4-3 weakside DE, and a damn good one. If you put him in a 3-4 at either OLB or DE you are wasting his talents. He should always be playing to get into the backfield as a disruptor, not taking on double teams on a regular basis, or covering guys in the flat.