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10 Dallas Cowboys That Need To Go?

FOX Sports chimes in with a list of 10 current Dallas Cowboys players who they say need to go. Of course, in the offseason these kinds of lists are fun entertainment, but I doubt the Cowboys are going to turn over this many players, at least this many that receive significant playing time. Still, almost everybody on the list does bear some scrutiny, so I'll play along.

1. Alan Ball - I happen to agree, although he doesn't really need to go. They just need to move him back to a reserve and let him swing between safety and corner, depending on where the greatest need is when the dust settles on the offseason.

2. Marion Barber - I like MB3, but his time is over in Dallas. They should, and probably will, release him.

3. Alex Barron - He's still on the team? Yech.

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4. Martellus Bennett - Okay, now we're getting to an interesting one. Bennett has long tantalized us with his potential, and John Garrett (and statistical analysis) say he's a tough run blocker. But his production as a receiver has never materialized, and he's not as versatile as John Phillips who will be returning from injury. Is Bennett worth keeping as a third tight end? I'd say yes, unless you can get a decent trade offer around the draft.

5. Marc Colombo - I've been highly-critical of Colombo's play in 2010, just like most of you have, but I'm not sure if I'm ready to push him out the door yet. I'd keep him for this season, and bring in some competition.

6. Leonard Davis - No way. Look, he had a bad 2010, no doubt. But I wonder how much lax work habits under the Wade Phillips regime had to do with Davis, and other players, becoming lazy and complacent. The line, and the offense as a whole, looked much better under Jason Garrett's tutelage. I'm sticking with Bigg for another year.

7. Chris Gronkowski - Not that we desperately need him, but I don't see a reason to dump him just yet, unless you find a vet who can replace him.

8. Kyle Kosier - He's a free agent, so the Cowboys could absolutely let him go. But we've yet to develop any depth along the line, so his absence could be something we come to regret. This one I could go either way on as long as Dallas has a plan to replace him, and not with current stock on the team.

9. Marcus Spears - I think this is already happening.

10. Roy Williams - I'd be in favor of this one, too. I'd love the Cowboys to find a nice 3rd receiver who fits into that slot receiver mold. Unfortunately, I don't think Jerry Jones will ever admit to his mistake in acquiring Roy.

Okay, now it's your turn. Who stays and who goes?

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agree with some of that

Barron, MB3, Davis, Colombo have to go.
Ball is useful as a 4th CB. Bennett is cheap and a good blocker.
Gronk I do not care one way or the other
Spears will be too expensive for what he gives us
Roy should stay since we do not really gain anything by letting him go and he can get the job done,

by burmafrd1944 on Mar 6, 2011 8:18 AM CST reply actions  

Agreed

Also, Kosier should be re-signed if he comes cheap as well. He’s good depth and right now, he’s the only guy the team has trusted with making the line calls. Either he’s still ok to play LG or he’ll be able to help teach whomever is playing LG how to make the line calls.

by ary201 on Mar 6, 2011 8:25 AM CST up reply actions  

agreed kosier should stay for sure

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by shock00 on Mar 7, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

True about keeping Roy

It actually cost more to release him than keep him one more year.

We are upside down on his contract this year.

Use hell out of him this year then say bye bye

by Travlr on Mar 6, 2011 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Why Martellus?

I don’t understand the call for his release. He plays hard, blocking is a strength and if he’s not getting passes thrown his way in the game then I see it as a play calling or Qb decision making problem.

He doesn’t drop a lot of passes and when they do through him the ball he’s productive with it.

What gives the Martellus. What am I missing? You can catch and run with it if it doesn’t come your way.

by Jaymanburlington on Mar 6, 2011 8:24 AM CST reply actions  

I think that

Maybe a lot of people have a thing for hating on Bennett because he’s not very cerebral player. He clearly has issues knowing the playbook backwards and forwards and doesn’t have the gamebreaking ability to make up for that. I agree with you though, he’s a great blocker and he does catch a few balls here and there, with I think is fine for a #2 TE. Additionally, there’s no guarantee that Phillips comes back 100% from a very bad injury. (Plus, the fact that he got injured making a routing preseason block doesn’t bode well…)

by ary201 on Mar 6, 2011 8:30 AM CST up reply actions  

What am I missing?

You’re missing being full of sh!t like the Bennett-bashing argument and having your brown-blinded head up your butt like its proponents.

Ummm, I mean, well, folks just always want more.

Point After (rule change): You score, you kick. Debate welcomed.

by tanstaafl on Mar 6, 2011 8:46 AM CST up reply actions  

WTF are you talking about?

In what way was I Bennett bashing?

What the hell does brown-blinded mean anyway?

by Jaymanburlington on Mar 6, 2011 8:54 AM CST up reply actions  

WTF are you talking about?

Not you, Jay. You asked “What am I missing?” The answer to such a question is “what you are missing”, which is the “being full of…” and “having your…” things. In other words, those things are what you are missing in trying to understand the Bennett-bashing.

You misread or failed to comprehend the sentence answering your question.

As for “brown-blinded”, it’s descriptive of what seeing is like if a person is “full of…” and has their “head up their…”. Kinda gives a sh!tty perspective.

In short, I was supporting your comment, not trashing it or you.

That “WTF are you talking about” is a nice little reply title, ain’t it?

Point After (rule change): You score, you kick. Debate welcomed.

by tanstaafl on Mar 6, 2011 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Chill out, dude

That’s not the level of discourse we have here. You want to curse people out go to the DMN.

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 6, 2011 11:14 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Maybe...

I was in a mood. Maybe not. I wasn’t cursing anyone out or, if it was taken so, I certainly didn’t mean to be.

Seem to recall saying it all rather lightheartedly, the same way a person would say “you’re full of it” in a friendly sports-debate. And, as explained above, I wasn’t trashing Jay, his point or insulting him or anyone in particular.

If I was in a mood and offended your or anyone else’s sensibilities by the manner in which I expressed my agreement with the respective position on the Bennett debate, I apologize.

Point After (rule change): You score, you kick. Debate welcomed.

by tanstaafl on Mar 6, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Gracias

This site helps me figure out what you people are saying with all these TLA’s.

Point After (rule change): You score, you kick. Debate welcomed.

by tanstaafl on Mar 6, 2011 7:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Bennett wasted too much time with his maty b stuff.,..

while he was on the same team with a future pro bowl TE.. Jason Witten!!!
Man i just would have pick Witten Brain to death.. Bennett has the talent but his focus factor was not there..

Do u not remember when J.Phillips was favor over Bennet in the playoff game with the vikings?

I think we could trade him a possibly pick up TE’s DJ.Willams, Stocker, or that Ruldoph guy..

Im ready to grt players who want to be more dedicated to this game..

by lostar2009 on Mar 6, 2011 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Bennett was on his own.

Remember in his rookie season? Witten said he’s not going to help Bennett. It was harsh, but Marty the knucklehead probably said some dumb shit behind the scenes to deserve it. I’m not opposed to trading Bennett if we get a top 100 pick for him though. If not, he’s a good player. But I agree, Phillips looks like a real late round find.

If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.

by White Wolf on Mar 6, 2011 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Wait until after training camp to trade

There’s nothing wrong with having 3 really solid TEs. You never know when one is going to get injured.

Let Phillips and Bennett fight it out in training camp then trade the least productive one for a 5th round 2012 pick.

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 6, 2011 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

we drafted Bennet in the 2nd..

Then could have gotten a 1st for him.. plus he’s experience and young

A 2nd no less

by lostar2009 on Mar 6, 2011 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

yea that may have been true..

But i remember the Te’s coach was constantly telling him to observe and watch witten

by lostar2009 on Mar 6, 2011 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Phillips was not favored over Bennett in the Minnesota playoff game.

This is a idea that needs to die because it is not supported by stats at all. Bennett was one of the leading receivers in that game.

If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels

by Creasy729 on Mar 6, 2011 2:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

and Phillips didn't have a single catch

not sure where this memory of Phillips being “favored” in that game is coming from

by scottmaui on Mar 6, 2011 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

No idea.

I have heard that meme for a while too. Phillips caught that one TD against the Eagles and all of a sudden people got this idea into their heads that Bennett wasn’t trusted by Tony or something.

If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels

by Creasy729 on Mar 6, 2011 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

Bennett is the best (better than Witten) blocking TE on the team, as is regularly pointed out by coaches and analysts. I agree that he has not flourished as a receiver, but that could very well be because he is most often used as a blocker ( I query how often he is the primary receiving target). Statistical analysis suggests that he is one of the best blocking TEs in the league. If you consider the frequency with which the Boys use 2 TEs, and the fact that they do not have an elite FB, it seems that excellent blocking is enough to keep him on the team. If he truly is one of the best blocking TEs in the NFL, he would have a place on my team even if he never caught a single pass.

by oznog22 on Mar 7, 2011 9:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Does Fox even do research?

They think we should cut young player starting out their careers that cost almost nothing (ball, gronkowski, Bennett) and think we should take a 10 million dollar hit for Roy? idiots

How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!!

by emmitt22 on Mar 6, 2011 8:32 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

The issue with Williams is $

I can’t remember the exact numbers now, but the guys at the Mothership have repeatedly pointed out that it would cost more to cut Williams than to keep him. Do you really think he is that bad that it would be better to use precious cap space to have him not on the team? Let’s not forget that RW had an excellent start to the season last year before Romo was injured. Moreover, perhaps he will make a better 3rd WR; with Austin, Dez, and Witten, he should see lots of single coverage. He is also quite effective, because of his size, near the goal line.

by oznog22 on Mar 7, 2011 9:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Jeepers Keepers

I don’t see a need to drop Allan Ball. He’s a decent 4th corner which is something you need in the NFL these days. I’d like to see Columbo gone only because they better be thinking about drafting a tackle and Columbo would only dampen his development.

Bigg – E can go! Slowest feet I’ve ever seen. Worst O-lineman we have. Trade down for soemone’s two first rounders! Tackle, Guards. No need to over reach for a tackle when you don’t need a left tackle. You can get a starting right tackle in the mid to late picks.

by Jaymanburlington on Mar 6, 2011 8:32 AM CST reply actions  

Exactly

Alan Ball is a train wreck as a starting safety, but as a reserve DB, he’s fine. You don’t cut quality reserves, you find replacements for them in the starting lineup

by deadrody7774 on Mar 6, 2011 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

This

"Wade is no longer the coach." Jason Garrett

by k2spitfire88 on Mar 6, 2011 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

we canf ind a better corner in a late round

this class is full with good CB’s, ball needs to go, i take davon house over ball in a bit, davon should be there in the 4th round

by ratware on Mar 6, 2011 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

It baffles me to see other Teams cut players or sign FA's?,

why have’nt we cut anyone yet?,i was hoping to see Barber and Colombo cut at the very least.
Hope we can re-sign Kosier for another 2 years till a young guy can step in.
If we go into next season with the same roster ( plus draft picks) then i fear we are doomed to repeat previous failures.
no matter how good i think Coach Garrett and his staff can be.

Davie Wilson
"how bout them cowboys"!!!

by scotscowboyfan on Mar 6, 2011 8:38 AM CST reply actions  

kosier is done man

remember last year a lot of people were saying colombo had still some gas in the tank when he clearly was done, this year is kosier, he’s done

by ratware on Mar 6, 2011 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Hope you are wrong,i was thinking 1 more year out of him.

we are already needing to replace RG and RT this year.

Davie Wilson
"how bout them cowboys"!!!

by scotscowboyfan on Mar 6, 2011 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

add Brooking to that list. not so sure about R. williams or Bennett

by cmttx on Mar 6, 2011 8:51 AM CST reply actions  

Roy Willimas needs to go

if he doesn’t restructure. He’s ok to keep around at a modest salary because you’ll get modest production.

by Jaymanburlington on Mar 6, 2011 8:57 AM CST reply actions  

Unfortunately, Roy Williams is getting paid no matter what.

Roy has guarranteed money in his contract, so there is no way he will adjust his contract or restructure (unless it is for even more money). He is not worth the money, but since we have to pay him whether he is here or not, it makes absolutely no sense to cut him. He doesn’t need to start, or even see the field, but we might as well keep him as a third reciever and/or backup rather than pay him to sit on the couch.

by Yoko Romo on Mar 6, 2011 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

man i remember we cut T.O. and took a cap hit..

y JJ will not admit the fact Roy.W brings this team down …On and off the field..there no way around it RW will come in as the 3rd wr next year..

With those picks and that money we gave up for RW we could have gotten alot more.. I hate when JJ do this sh*t!! this is y the team is full holes.. All those Draft picks we gave up. Then compound it with a wasted draft..

If not careful this team will go rock bottom like the late 87’s cowboys.. Dallas already finish 6-10.. we have the declining players.. Another blown draft we are finish.. WE need a strong draft this year we really do..

WE need not cut or lost so we can finally free up sum cap for sum real players .. Im sorry guys but we must leave the weak to die if this team wants to survive..

Dallas needs to start clearing cap even if means dumping barber or RoyW for 6th or 7th round picks.. bc the talent on the bottom of your roster is just as gud..

by lostar2009 on Mar 6, 2011 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

No one will give a single thing for RoyW or Barber... they are untradeable

No team in this league wants either of those players for the insane contracts they’ve been given. They are impossible to trade, you only can release them.

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 6, 2011 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Could it be JJ have put too many wounds on this team to heal?

Have an era come to an end? With no rings to show for it..

Only an roster turn around is next.. New England did it quietly a few years back..they stock pile picks and built their team back up through the draft..

by lostar2009 on Mar 6, 2011 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Honestly, this has to be a great offseason for the Cowboys or the window is shut

The core of this team is crossing the 30 year barrier (Witten, Romo, Ware, Ratliff, Austin). The window is closing.

This team spent the last few drafts throwing 1st rounders at non-starters in Roy Williams and Felix Jones. It spent and entire 2009 draft on “special teams”.

This roster needs to be infused with a 2005-level of talent this off-season or this team is done. If this off-season is a failure, by the time the roster can rebuild itself to championship status the nucleus of our team in guys like Witten, Ware, and Ratliff will be declining in skills.

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 6, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

man what a shame it seem after 2007 season this team was made..

but i swear after that RW deal and that 2009 draft.. this team went down hill..

We use to have draft picks stock up to the celing.. Every1 fear us.. All we needed was some more depth

I think JJ just got to cocky

by lostar2009 on Mar 6, 2011 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

uh...

Felix is our starting RB, Mike Jenkins starts at CB, Dez Bryant is a starting WR, Anthony Spencer starts at OLB

what non-starting 1st Rounders might you be talking about??

by howboutdemcowboyz on Mar 6, 2011 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

felix is a part time player, Rw is not a starter..

abd right now wud u consider MikeJ and Spencer starter material?

by lostar2009 on Mar 7, 2011 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Felix has yet to start a season at RB

and he was actually DRAFTED with that in mind. He was drafted to be the compliamentary back to Marion Barber. That’s was the biggest surprise of it all, Jerry Jones thought his team was so close to a superbowl — so perfect that he used a 1st rounder on a rotational RB with the idea of using him as a rotational RB.

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 7, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Finally somebody who gets it!

This is why I am constantly complaining and stressing urgency to immediately fix certain areas and I get so mad when they are ignored. The longer they get put off, the older the current core gets, and eventually it’s going to be time to completely rebuild.

"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel

by TXHC on Mar 7, 2011 3:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Era?

What era . . . the only era in the last decade and a half is an era of futility tarnishing this once great franchise.

by Iowacowboy on Mar 6, 2011 8:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it is helpful to think of Cowboys teams as eras

It’s hugely subjective but I tend to talk about the cowboys as

Superbowl Cowboys – 1990-1996
Too old Cowboys – 1997-2000
Quincy Carter Cowboys – 2001-2005 (Quincy Carter is the personification of everything wrong with those teams)
Tony Romo Cowboys – 2006-present

It forces you to think about teams as temporary and fading things. You have to realize that at some point Witten, Ware, Romo, Austin, and Ratliff are going to be just as unable to win championships as those “Too Old” Cowboys teams. At some point the window is going to close.

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 6, 2011 8:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Remove Bennett, Kosier, and Davis

And add Igor, Brooking, and Beuhler

I must break you

by Zpomero1 on Mar 6, 2011 9:22 AM CST reply actions  

I don't agree on Buehler

but otherwise, yeah Igor and Brooking could certainly be gone

by scottmaui on Mar 6, 2011 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Poor Roy

I guess you could say he never “caught” on.

"The words printed here are concepts. You must go through the experiences." - St. Augustine

by Funkytown on Mar 6, 2011 9:24 AM CST reply actions  

ba da Ding!

Thank you. Thank you very much! Be here all week!

by Perry the Platypus on Mar 6, 2011 9:28 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

The decision on Roy

is “out of his hands”.

"The words printed here are concepts. You must go through the experiences." - St. Augustine

by Funkytown on Mar 6, 2011 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Roy was told to run a slant...

last seen on Interstate 30 headed for Texarkana

If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.

by White Wolf on Mar 6, 2011 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

It does seem that Roy has fumbled away his opportunities.

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 6, 2011 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Roy just can't "grasp" the situation.

"The words printed here are concepts. You must go through the experiences." - St. Augustine

by Funkytown on Mar 6, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I wonder if Roy has a full scouting report

or if it’s “incomplete”.

"The words printed here are concepts. You must go through the experiences." - St. Augustine

by Funkytown on Mar 6, 2011 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

He'd like his criticism to get "deflected"

But Bryant has already “passed” him on the depth chart, and I certainly won’t be “broken up” if he’s gone

by scottmaui on Mar 6, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

What's all the Roy bashing?

Try bashing Jerry. Roy was not all that in Detroit. He had a big game against the Cowboys and thats all Jerry needed. Jerry gave up all those draft picks and then signed Roy to a huge contract. You just can’t get upset at a guy, cause he aint what he never was or will be. Top 10 Jerry screw ups, yea i would say Roy williams is in the top ten.

by cowboy north on Mar 6, 2011 9:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I could make a very good argument he is #1

When the history books are written I don’t think it’s too much of a stretch to say that missing that 1st, 3rd, and 5th round draft pick in 2009 left to cuppord bare of young players and the outrageous salary we paid him made it impossible to bring in impact free agents.

No draft picks, no money for free agents — then we turn around and wonder why we have $500,000 a year 7th round draft pick Alan Ball starting at safety.

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 7, 2011 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

List should have been 5

Ball
Barber
Barron
Columbo
Spears (I guess)

Why keep Ball as the 4th corner when you have a younger, more talented McCann that can do that and possibly return kicks?

I don’t see a reason to get rid of Bennett unless you get good value in a trade, and you almost certainly will not.

I like Gronk. I think he did a pretty good job as a rookie, except for the obvious big mistake. He was a decent option as a receiver out of the backfield and i like the sneaky FB dive in short yardage situations.

by BigDumbFace on Mar 6, 2011 9:28 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

This is a little too radical

Although I understand the anger that wants these players gone, it has to be tempered with whether we have a player to replace them, and the depth to survive injuries. I believe you have to pick the worst three or four if you have depth at the position. For example, to dump the 2nd best blocking TE in the game, when you clearly have blocking issues with the line is not advisable. Yes, he’s a knucklehead sometimes, but not really on the field, and he has shown signs of maturing.

Compare that to Barber, who is clearly overpaid, has lost a step for a player that didn’t have a step to lose, and seems to celebrate breaking huddles. Behind him you have two backs that could be more productive, are cheaper, and younger.

You can’t just say, “We have to dump all these guys or we’ll never win.” We have far too many holes to fill to add more holes to it in a season that may very well limit our ability to fill holes.

Considering all these factors my list is:
Barber – gone
Columbo – gone
Barron – gone
Roy – it’s always something with you. Gone
Brooking – out of the starting lineup
Sensabaugh – we’ll see after the draft
Olshansky – this isn’t Dancing with the Stars…STFU and play
Spears – sorry fella, we can’t match what someone will overpay for you
Ogletree – do you want to play football or is that beneath you?
Gronkowski – pitch a tent in the film room.
Bigg – Report to Mike Woicik’s office
Ball – back to cb you go…and special teams
Kosier – re-sign this guy with the understanding he may not be a starter
Bennett – go knock someone on their ass…you’re my designated roaming hammer

If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.

by White Wolf on Mar 6, 2011 9:41 AM CST reply actions  

What I'ld like to see is:

Ball gone unless he’s greatly better than McCann as 4th corner.
Barber gone. No questions
Barron gone unless Houck can motivate him.
Bennett traded- as long as Phillips is OK- he would be better with another team
Columbo gone. No questions
Davis stays until we have better.
Gronkowski is young and cheap unless much bettler is available keep.
Kosier is a FA. If money must be spent might as well upgrade.
Spears is likely gone in FA. If price is right keep him.
Williams may stay due to cap hit. Viable third receiver. Rather see him gone.
Brookings keep for spot duty and mentoring
Igor gone- he’s just an embarassment

by oldboysfan on Mar 6, 2011 9:54 AM CST reply actions  

Welll... My opinion is NEVER popular but...

Jerry ‘Al Davis JR’ Jones, Jason Garrett THEN we can get to the players…

MB3 will NOT play for Garrett so it’s time
Roy Williams
Alan Ball
That’ll get it started…

It doesn’t really matter because at the end of the day until Jones is gone not much will change. He is the driving force behind the lack of everything on this team. He is not a GM, he cannot draft and he just doesn’t know football. He knows dollars and he continues to steal them as if no one even cared. I have been a cowboys fan all my life but I will not go to anymore games or buy anymore NFL stuff until he hires a real GM, which we all KNOW isn’t going to happen. SO I pray for his death…soon.

by Cowboysdude on Mar 6, 2011 10:05 AM CST reply actions  

I swear

the only thing more annoying than ignorant, unintelligent, holier than thou snot-nosed, arrogant, finger-pointing brats saying “get rid of Martellus Bennett” is taxes.
“He has so much talent, but he has never put up big passing numbers.” NO **** SHERLOCK!!! That’s because of a certain HALL OF FAMER playing at the same position, a break-out probowl WR, formerly an all-pro and future HOFer Terrell Owens, as well as now a rookie prodigy 1st round WR, and a stubbornly an overrated WR being fed the ball in order to try and prove the owner right, in front of him.
If Martellus Bennett was your typical monotone, average run-of-the-mill interview and player who just blended in, then not one single person would be calling for him to be cut. He would be brought up maybe one-tenth as frequently, but when he would be talked about, people would talk about how he is the second best blocking TE in the entire league, is GREAT in the running game, and when he does get his few chances in the passing game, he fights like heck for every yard after the catch - oh and has great talent to work with at a very young age. Instead, he’s somewhat of an off-the-wall character, and not like everyone else. DEAL WITH IT!
That does not mean he doesn’t have a good work ethic. Anyone without a pre-conceived negative notion towards Martellus can see clear as day that his work-ethic is much better than it was in his rookie season when you watch him play on the field.
Seriously some people need to WAKE UP and drop this crap about getting rid of Martellus. It is beyond idiotic.

by BigD88 on Mar 6, 2011 10:12 AM CST reply actions  

There are very few calls to cut Bennett.

He would be more valuable in a trade than the amount he is used by the team. I think we could get a late 2nd or 3rd. That could be a safety or CB for the Cowboys a possition they need. If Phillips is healthy Bennett will likely get fewer chances as reciever. He has more value to other teams. BTW no need for the name calling rant. It is just another way of looking at things.

by oldboysfan on Mar 6, 2011 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Our standard formation is two TE.

Bennet is a starter. He plays in a high % of plays. He is absolutely valuable to this team, but I’l agree with you that for a 2nd or 3rd, it would be worth trading him.

Jon Phillips will not get many chances as receiver. We have two wrs and a TE who all deserve to have 60+ catches. Phillips will split the remainder with Roy. If our line is as bad as last years, Phillips has far less value to this team then Bennet I think.

by foyesboys on Mar 6, 2011 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Phillips is not Witten.

I do feel comfortable that if he gets a third down pass he’ll hold on. He’s an viable player. Bennett has value that may get the Cowboys a player that is needed. Who knows it might just be a guard or tackle to improve the line so it won’t be as bad as last year.

by oldboysfan on Mar 6, 2011 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Martellus doesn't have it between the ears.

If we can get a second for him (big IF), we should take it and never look back.

I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.

by nspirals on Mar 6, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess it's 1 year

since he’s a free agent in 2012

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 6, 2011 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol that's true..

Davie Wilson
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by scotscowboyfan on Mar 6, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Thank you!!!

We may be twins or something.

and this thing that phillips is more versatile, yeah it may be true but Bennett is a better Football player. Phillips has done jack squat in this league.

by howboutdemcowboyz on Mar 6, 2011 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

The Thing Is

As far as MB3 and Roy go, the only reason you release those guys is to free up money. And unless they are going to SPEND that money, it doesn’t make that much sense to get rid of guys that may not be worth the money they’re making, they are still talented football players.

So the real question is, who are they going to spend that extra money on ?

by deadrody7774 on Mar 6, 2011 10:13 AM CST reply actions  

And Why Gronkowski ?

The guy was a rookie. Is it the ONE missed block that put Romo out ? That is as much the fault of the coaching staff and GM for having to rely on a rookie FB in that spot. I would bet you Gronkowski comes back even better prepared for this season. It would downright idiotic to count him among those that “have to go”

by deadrody7774 on Mar 6, 2011 10:17 AM CST reply actions  

Actually

He had two major missed blocks. The one that ended Tony Romo’s season and the one that ended Dez Bryant’s season.

It’s not Chris Gronkowski’s fault though. It’s the front office’s, for deciding to roll with an unproven rookie free agent FB instead of Deon Anderson or another street veteran, even after we lost H-Back John Phillips to an injury in training camp. The move was made to save money and it cost us two key components for the season, albeit Bryant’s was after the season was long decided.

He costs absolutely nothing, and made agregious errors. Why on earth would you want him to stay? There ate 15 Gronkowski’s every season.

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by KD Drummond on Mar 6, 2011 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

there "are" 15 Gronks every season

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by KD Drummond on Mar 6, 2011 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

KD..

Who’s that FB in the draft that everyone is hypin’ up?

FEAR the STAR.

by .FRoST.USAF on Mar 6, 2011 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Henry Hynoski is an absolute beast - future pro bowler for sure

Although Owen Marecic and Stanley Havili are great FBs that make Gronkowski look like a child by comparison.

Best year for fullbacks in at least the last 5 years.

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 6, 2011 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep

AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.

by Iron Fist on Mar 6, 2011 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

still a lot of people creamed his pants for him

and wanted to get rid of deon, they care about passing statistics, and our new versatile FB who can catch some balls and all that pretty stuff, well i guess that doesn’t work out in real football, if you’re a FB, first learn how to block then be you can be a weapon on passing game

by ratware on Mar 6, 2011 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Davis had a bad '09 season as well

He is declining and I think it is wishful thinking that he’ll get any better

Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith

by Lissyyyyy on Mar 6, 2011 10:45 AM CST reply actions  

agreed

AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.

by Iron Fist on Mar 6, 2011 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess I’m the only Cowboys fan who want to see what Barron can do under Houck and Woicik.

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Mar 6, 2011 10:56 AM CST reply actions  

We saw what he could do under Huock against the Redskins. And woick? Barron’s problems can’t be fixed in a weight room

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 6, 2011 11:22 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I tend to agree

I don’t think his problems have anything to do with physical measurables. Technique and mentality seem to be his biggest issues.

Then again, we are judging him after only a couple months with the team, and he was forced into starting action the very 1st day. I’d prefer to see him gone, but if hes here then hes probably here for a reason.

by foyesboys on Mar 6, 2011 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

everyone’s favorite OL draft prospect is Tyron Smith. Am I the only one who thinks Barron’s scouting report coming out of FSU sounds just like Tyron’s profile ….

http://www.clanram.com/forums/f85/alex-barron-scouting-report-8581/

Strengths:
Tremendous athleticism…Has long arms…Excellent in pass protection…Very quick feet and good balance…A natural left tackle…Good size…Still has a lot of upside and potential.
Weaknesses:
May not have that killer instinct and doesn’t always finish his blocks…Battled some injuries early in his career…Doesn’t have a lot of experience and is still raw…Has to work on mastering the nuances of the position.

Notes: Widely regarded as the top offensive lineman available

http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=8&c=1&nid=1353834&pg=2

Bio: Full-time starter the past two seasons and named to both the All-American and All- Conference teams. Played five of fourteen games with the first unit as a sophomore in ‘02.

Positives: Outstanding blind-side protector with excellent size and upside potential. Quickly sets in pass protection, immediately gets his hands into defenders and extends to keep them from the action. Strong in his upper body, displays good hand punch and bends his knees, staying low to the ground throughout the play. Easily controls opponents once engaged in a block, knocking them back off the ball. Effective position blocker who walls opponents from the action. Displays good movement skills, can slide in space and fluid shuffling out to protect the edge. Blocks down or engulfs opponents. Keeps his feet moving and anchors in pass defense. Easily adjusts picking up stunts or blitzes.

Negatives: Tries to outguess defenders and gets beat. Lazy with his hands. Must make better use of blocking angles and learn to play with balance. Does not play with a nasty attitude and by no means a dominant drive blocker who opens big holes for the running game. Work ethic has been questioned.

Analysis: Possessing a tremendous amount of natural skill, possesses all the physical traits necessary to be an early pick and a productive left tackle in the NFL.

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Mar 6, 2011 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

+1. Since everyone has declared him the clear best OT in the draft

I have my reservations about a guy whose never played a down in the NFL. Don’t draft him at 9. Trade down and get the extra pick(s). We’re better off with Carimi/Costanzo, and the extra picks.

If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.

by White Wolf on Mar 6, 2011 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

We are in agreement

I’m fine with letting the Pats jump up to 9 for Julio Jones or someone wanting a QB…If we got Carimi/Costanzo, I’ve been saying we could package the extra second we gain with our second to move up and take Pouncey. Imagine how much more solid our O line would be then! I’ve also been hearing rumblings that Ramim Moore might last longer than expected due to some negatives seen in the combine skills-wise…

I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.

by nspirals on Mar 6, 2011 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

+1000

Von Miller, Fairly, Peterson, Robert Quinn.

If they aren’t there hold an auction to see who wants Juilio Jones the most before the Redskins snatch him up and come away with Gabe Carimi and an extra 2nd round pick.

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 6, 2011 12:38 PM CST up reply actions  

The difference is

Alex Barron’s work ethic is ZERO. Zilch. Nada.
Smith actually has a great work ethic, and actually cares about the game of football. Something we all know Barron doesn’t.
Smith is also more physical. They really aren’t that similar at all.
Solder is much more comparable to Barron. All this great long limb and athleticism nonsense, but horrid technique and just overall not as good as they should be considering their “athleticism.”

by BigD88 on Mar 6, 2011 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually Solder has the higher celing out of any tackle in this draft...

Solder problem is the fact he does not bend all the time bc he’s so tall..

I too was thinkn Smith may kinda be a project.. and may be a bust. But his proday will reval alot about him.. his footwork etc… esp since he pack on the weight,,

To be honest im favor for Carimi he’s the only tackle that is deem “NFL READY” a
“PLUG AND PLAY STARTER”..

Carimi can come in day one and start a RT.. He has shown some flashes to play the G postion.. I also think he can be a solid LT too.. he reminds me alot of Oher of the Ravens..

by lostar2009 on Mar 6, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

That's my point

Solder has the “highest ceiling” just like Barron did. But neither of them played anywhere close to their potential coming into the league.
Smith actually plays tough, and smart. When you watch him play, you don’t say “great athleticism, bad technique, raw,” like you do watching Solder.
Carimi is, as you said, the plug and play RT in this draft that you won’t ever have to worry about. But Smith is not as raw or as much of a project as Solder, not even close. Of the three, I firmly believe Solder will bust, while Carimi and Smith have successful careers as starters in the NFL.
PS-I find it funny how Mel Kiper actually called Barron being a bust while everyone was singing his praises during the whole draft process.

by BigD88 on Mar 6, 2011 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Our line doesn't need "high ceiling" it needs "dependable"

Gabe Carimi.

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 6, 2011 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

well u do want a guy with upside.. plus talent..

JJ has stated he wanted starters impact players..

Smith or Carimi

The problem is trying to catch them guys at value..

by lostar2009 on Mar 6, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

yea true..

It seems as if the lionshave an eye on Smith more than a Cb on there blogs..
I thought Redskins may want an OL.. but it seems as if the OL in this draft may slide all the way down to 14 – 20 range..

Smith, Carimi,Pouncey, Constonzo, Sherrod, Cannon, Solder

in that order.. there is no way a team will draft such a project like Solder in the first.. Costonzo has talent but i have seen this guy get beat a few times.. while guys like Carimi handle those same guys with ease..

who do you think are sum great nd to 3rd Ol prospects that look great for dallas?

by lostar2009 on Mar 6, 2011 12:40 PM CST up reply actions  

solder problem is he's crap

he will be out of NFL in 5 years, and i agree carimi is what we need, we need to win now, not in three years, trade down to the late teens and grab him before the eagles put a finger on him

by ratware on Mar 6, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed on trading down and getting Carimi plus extra 2nd round pick,

if we don’t draft 2 OL in first 3 picks i would be unhappy with our draft.

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by scotscowboyfan on Mar 6, 2011 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I would be pretty happy to get a trade down and pick up Carimi.

And I am suprised everytime I hear a draft “expert” saying Solder is the top OT in the draft, and mocks him to us at 9.

He needs way to much work IMO, we need a 1st year solid starter.

by Rena on Mar 6, 2011 8:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Raw, lazy, injury prone. No, I have never heard anyone say any of those about Smith. He is also a better run blocker than pass atm.

As for a good athlete, that is a basic need for a LT. So that would be part of the scouting report for any of them as good strength is also a basic need. And Smith didn’t get close to say Cannon on the bench press. He was middle of the pack and tired with Carimi and Watkins.
As for potential, well, isn’t that every top round or top 2-3 round draft picks?

by Rena on Mar 6, 2011 8:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Barron's

Negatives far outnumber T. Smith’s.

Tries to outguess defenders and gets beat. Lazy with his hands. Must make better use of blocking angles and learn to play with balance. Does not play with a nasty attitude and by no means a dominant drive blocker who opens big holes for the running game. Work ethic has been questioned.

No one has called T. Smith lazy, or that he has bad angles and balance. T. Smith has great footwork for someone so “raw” and with good footwork and balance, there are few “nuances of the position” that T. SMith needs to learn his rookie year. There are similarities, but if I was drafting on or the other the decision seems pretty easy.

"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and Stephen Bowen can ball!" - Kegbearer
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by Kegbearer on Mar 7, 2011 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

right
Negatives: Tries to outguess defenders and gets beat. Lazy with his hands. Must make better use of blocking angles and learn to play with balance …. by no means a dominant drive blocker who opens big holes for the running game.

vs

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2010/11/29/1844658/tyron-smith-nfl-draft-scouting-report

he’s not had to drive block much … Doesn’t have the best initial hand punch. Can be inconsistent where he drives into a defender … When he’s asked to drive block in the run game, he’ll struggle moving defensive linemen around … The biggest technical flaw on Smith is his hand placement.

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Mar 7, 2011 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Lazy hands and bad balance leads to holding penalties = Barron. Smith doesn’t have that problem. Just because Smith’s biggest technical flaw is hand placement, doesn’t mean he has lazy hands. It means he has great footwork and good technique, the weakest part is…

"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and Stephen Bowen can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
- Tom Landry

by Kegbearer on Mar 7, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Also...

Here is another draft report excerpt on T. Smith (from Wes Bunting)

However, for the most part is a patient puncher who uncoils quickly into contact, is heavy handed for his size and has the body control to slide his feet and mirror through contact. Displays good hand placement and is tough to disengage from through the play. Possesses clean footwork on the outside, has a quick power step but at times gets a bit long with his footwork. However, for the most part maintains good balance, stays compact and has the range to consistently reach speed toward the edge and redirect in space.Is a gifted athlete in space in the run game. Quickly releases to the second level, breaks down on his target and consistently is able to get his hands into contact and seal. Doesn’t always hit what he sees when trying to cut defenders down at the line, but is quickly out of his stance when trying to step and seal and works his legs around defenders well through contact. Plays with good leverage as an in-line guy, extends his arms well into contact, bumps his legs and can create an initial surge because of his pad level and technique. Needs to continue to get stronger in order to do the same at the next level, but he should be able to pretty quickly in his career.

Seems like Bunting thinks he is way better than Barron in every facet of the game.

"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and Stephen Bowen can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
- Tom Landry

by Kegbearer on Mar 7, 2011 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, Barron is a no brainer, but Fox must hate the Cowboys if they want them to

turn over more than half the O line in one off season. They do recognize what a liability the O line is, and I have long agreed with that. Kosier, particularly since he calls the line plays, needs to stay another season. I wish Colombo would retire; at the very least, the Cowboys have to draft an immediate impact player at RT (or LT if they want to move Free back over) and keep Colombo for depth. Davis stinks, but can they replace him and Colombo at the same time?

Wouldn’t miss Gronk. I don’t agree with getting rid of Bennett. I’d like to see what Garrett can do with him. MB3 kills me, but I think you’re right that he’s probably gone. RW? I don’t know. He was doing much better earlier last season with Romo, so could he keep that up?

Agreed with what you said about Spears. Odd, isn’t it, nearly all of the players on that list are on offense, given how bad the defense was last season? I guess the assumption is that Ryan can do something with what they have? Brooking ought to retire, but it looks like he’ll hang on until the bitter end. Olshansky can go, if they can draft someone who can play now. No mention of Spencer. I don’t think he needs to go, but he had better have a much better season in 2011 than he had last year. I don’t want to think that the second half of 2009 was an aberration for him.

Not sure about Buehler (and I was a huge supporter for a long time). They have to bring in a field goal kicker, no matter what, because he’s a liability at that position.

by Fernie67 on Mar 6, 2011 11:07 AM CST reply actions  

the problem is Brown's career stats are no better than Buehler's

it’s nice to say we have to get a K to replace Buehler, but there just aren’t a ton of highly reliable kickers lying around. I agree with giving him competition. But I don’t think it’s a given that someone like Brown, despite being a more experienced veteran, is necessarily an upgrade over Buehler. To be worth a roster spot, he’s got to be a clear upgrade.

And by the way, Buehler will be here whether he’s the FG kicker or not. He’s too valuable for his touchbacks and ability to be the “extra man” on KO coverage units. I don’t favor cutting him even if he does lose his FG job to Brown or anyone else.

by scottmaui on Mar 6, 2011 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I was kind of hoping we'd draft Alex Henry

If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.

by White Wolf on Mar 6, 2011 7:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Before we do anything

If we contemplate releasing any player, first look at the alternatives and make sure the team is not weakened by the move. Then look at the costs involved in making a move.
1) Ball- needs to be replaced as a starter, but should otherwise compete for a roster spot
2) Barber- costs too much and can likely be replaced easily with younger, cheaper player
3) Barron- let him compete in training camp. If, he can’t cut it, say goodbye
4) Bennet- if Phillips is healthy, he’ll probably get more playing time, but keep Bennet or consider trading him if the price is right
5)%6) Columbo and Davis- we have very little O-lline reserves and free agency looks pretty weak at the O-line position, so depending on how the draft plays out, we might not be able to let either one go just yet
7) Gronkowski- probably not a long term answer, but again let him compete in training camp
8) Kosier- still a steady player and if he can be reasonably resigned, keep him. We can’t replace every O-lineman except Free and Gurode
9) Spears- while I think he’s been overcriticized, ie, sacks, he’s been good against the run and DE’s in our system don’t pile up big sack numbers. That being said, he’’ll probably cost too much to resign and we’ll probably draft a DE because of the depth at the position. So, I think he’s gone.
10) Williams- we owe him a ton regardless of whether he stays or goes, so what alternative do we have, but to keep him. He’ll just have to play slot whether he likes it or not. I’d also try to rework his contract if possilble.

by pfloyd1 on Mar 6, 2011 11:38 AM CST reply actions  

Probably true on Roy.

If he stays, Dez and Miles start. When Roy’s on the field, Miles moves to the slot.

If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.

by White Wolf on Mar 6, 2011 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Young already replaced Barron on the dept chart, and Barron's contract is up.

IMO let him go. We need that roster spot for a high round draft OL, hopefully.

by Rena on Mar 6, 2011 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Long list ....

Ball – poor, Colombo – the poorest, Barron – the poorest ever, Davies – big contract, Barber – cant run + big contract, Roy Williams cant catch + big contract, Igor Olshansky mr invisible, Keith Brooking – too old, too slow

before there was law, there were the Cowboys!!!

by orli on Mar 6, 2011 11:47 AM CST reply actions  

Igor...

“Invisible, except when you wish he would”. The guy seems to pick rather inopportune times to dance around the field.

by foyesboys on Mar 7, 2011 12:36 AM CST up reply actions  

my free advice worth every penny.

1) Ball- He deserves another shot, not as a starter mind you but a roster spot for emergency purposes and special teams.
2) Barber- He`s done
3) Barron- Done
4) Bennet- He`s bound to mature and could blossom.
5)Davis- a better camp will whip him into shape
6) Columbo – let him try and regain his form but make him earn it.
7) Gronkowski- again make him earn it but I don`t think he can.
8) Kosier- I think we bring him back
9) Spears- nope he`s gone
10) Williams- 1 more yr to prove something.

by ziggy19 on Mar 6, 2011 11:48 AM CST reply actions  

how many years do RW need to prove something?

the guy just isnt what JJ thought he was.. face it i move on from it.. mayb he can just sneak up anf move sum hains or score a few TD’s tho..

by lostar2009 on Mar 6, 2011 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Anyone who thinks we should cut Bennett is insane

Bennett – keep in mind he was rated as the #1 blocking TE in the league by one site (now I forget which site), and Jonathon Bales from Dallas Cowboys Times, who breaks down every play on game tape and grades every player in every position, grades Bennett with a B+ overall, and an A- blocking.

Here’s his analysis of Bennett

Martellus Bennett

Blocking: A-

Cowboys fans may be unhappy with Bennett’s production as a receiver, but he was dominant as a blocker again in 2010. He didn’t allow a single sack and yielded only one hit and two pressures, despite being utilized as a blocker on the majority of his snaps. I was quoted as saying I would rather put Bennett at right tackle than Marc Colombo, and that is still true. He’s even better in the run game.

Receiving: B-

Bennett improved upon his 2009 receiving campaign by catching 75.0 percent of balls thrown his way (up from 51.7 percent last season). That rate is right alongside Witten’s. His 5.6 YAC/reception is also quite impressive, but his three drops (in 44 attempts) is too many.

The Cowboys may want to look at making Bennett more of a focal point in 2011, as he possesses the skill set to become a tremendous all-around tight end. Right now, the largest reason he is considered a "bust" by fans is simply because he doesn’t receive many opportunities as a pass-catcher. With Witten getting older, look for Bennett to receive closer to 70 looks next season.

So sure I’d consider trading Bennett if we got a very good offer for him, but to suggest that he “needs to go” is just insane.

by scottmaui on Mar 6, 2011 12:46 PM CST reply actions  

Bennet is a great blocker...

but those wr numbers aren’t fair. He gets EASY catches off of screens and short little curls. On the harder catches, he screwed up a couple plays.He still has plenty to prove to me as a receiver. But as long as we have this line, we NEED bennet here. Two TE is the only option we have.

by foyesboys on Mar 7, 2011 12:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Columbo definitely needs to be gone

Colombo was horrible last year, and we need to move on. He was by far the worst olineman. He gave up 9 sacks, 11 QB hits and 40 QB pressures (40!) last season, along with 8 penalties. By comparison Free gave up 3/7/21, and that is at the much more demanding LT position. Colombo doesn’t even deserve to have a chance to compete. We need another RT thru draft or FA, with Sam Young given a chance to compete. Colombo’s been a solid guy for us for years and I give him all due respect, but he’s done. You know how they say better to move on a year too early than a year too late? Well it’s already a year too late with Colombo.

(Here’s the source for the stats)

by scottmaui on Mar 6, 2011 12:54 PM CST reply actions  

yeah but "banged up" for the entire season at this point, more or less = done

he’s not going to bounce back next year and suddenly return to form

by scottmaui on Mar 6, 2011 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Colombo has had a very long injury history, and he's finally taken one too many

He’s been a great soldier for the star and I respect what he did here. But it’s time. It’s time.

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 6, 2011 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

I try not to bash columbo and barber because they were great for us a couple years ago and both are warriors. But both provide little use to this team at this time, and its hard to me to believe Sam Young could be worse than columbo.

by foyesboys on Mar 7, 2011 12:40 AM CST up reply actions  

if we dfafted oher in the first in 2009..

we wud not had to worry bout that.. now we gotta find an upgrade sum where…

Free Lt.. Oher RT.. tell JJ thnx for blowing that..

we cud have so much flex in this draft.. possiblity giving up a pick to move up and grab Peterson

by lostar2009 on Mar 6, 2011 1:19 PM CST reply actions  

Has anyone

heard anything definitive as to why the Cowboys staff felt Sam Young wasn’t even capable of replacing Colombo as bad as he was last season. It’s hard to imagine there is much to be excited about with Young if he couldn’t supplant Colombos’ horrid play.

by stargazer33 on Mar 6, 2011 1:33 PM CST reply actions  

He was hurt a lot of the season.

Plus teams don’t replace experience OTs with late round rookie draft picks, unless they have no other choice. I’ll be happy if Young’s ready to start and play well in 2012. If he becomes a capable starter that quickly, he’ll be a steal.

Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Mar 6, 2011 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

He's a 6th round draft pick

There’s a reason for that.

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 6, 2011 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

And they were so excited about Ogletree last year

How did that play out?

It’s a really bad move to rely on your 6th rounders and UDFAs to become starters in their 2nd years when they’ve never done anything. Late round picks are much more likely to become Ogletrees than Ratliffs.

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 6, 2011 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

It's an even worse idea

to not play a 6th rounder if he’s showing more capability than you’re starter. Was hoping for something a little more technical as to why Young couldn’t unseat Colombo.

by stargazer33 on Mar 6, 2011 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Probably because Young isn't really that good.

This team is high on him in the same way they were high on Alan Ball. And no, I don’t really care what Broaddus thinks of Young.

If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels

by Creasy729 on Mar 6, 2011 4:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Young might even develop

He has shown flashes in camp, but I don’t think he’s ready.

AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.

by Iron Fist on Mar 6, 2011 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

The reason they didn't play him is simple -- Colombo was a better right tackle than Young

6th round draft picks usually aren’t better in their rookie seasons than 1st round draft picks that have started for over 6 seasons in the NFL.

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 6, 2011 8:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Gonna presume

I’m incorrectly perceiving a hint of snarkiness from ya. I was just interested in possible specific issues the forum may have heard about with Young. It really wasn’t hard for me to imagine a 6th rounder not being much worse than the Colombo we saw in his 6th year as a starter in the NFL.

by stargazer33 on Mar 6, 2011 11:10 PM CST up reply actions  

It's easy to lose perspective

In Dallas because we’ve gotten incredibly lucky with Miles Austin, Jay Ratliff, and Tony Romo there is a systematic overevaluation of some players by fans. But the truth is that your 7th round and 6th round draft picks are much much more likely to be Alan Balls than Jay Ratliffs.

As bad as Colombo was last year, Sam Young probobly would have been much worse.

Look at the Week 17 game against the Eagles. Anthony Spencer is a terrible pass rusher, only getting 3 sacks the entire season. The guy can’t get the QB. But the Eagles put their backup RT in (their equivilant to Sam Young) and Spencer gets 2 sacks in the game.

The point is that the drop-off between bad starters and average backups is big. Even a terrible starter is way better than 90% of 6th round draft picks.

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 7, 2011 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

I know WHAT he is, I’m just trying to find out WHY he is what he is.

by stargazer33 on Mar 7, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I dont see how his draft status has any bearing on this

I think everyone is interested in why he didn’t replace Colombo. Was it lack of strength, lack of understanding his responsibilities, lack of skill? I think the next question then becomes do they think he can or has improved enough to compete this year for the starting job. I’m sure they don’t just dismiss him because of where he was drafted.

by staubachfan on Mar 7, 2011 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh I see what you're saying

and I agree, draft status should have zero impact on who sees the field – talent and ability should.

Unfortunately, we won’t know where Sam Young stands until training camp (if there is a training camp). The Cowboys, especially under Garrett, keep opinions like that close to the vest. We’ll have to wait to see what our intrepid BTB writers, Raf, and Broddus have to say when they see him with their own two eyes in August.

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 7, 2011 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes I agree

I think that’s what so hard about giving opinions on draft strategies and critiquing who we pick. We don’t have an understanding of where the current roster fits in. Plus has RR really been able to evaluate his defense strictly from tape?

by staubachfan on Mar 8, 2011 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

yea he's a RT thats all..

Rt are not really elite tackles at all, they sum times need help and such..

While Lt’s is usually on an island of there own.. That is y Lt’s all ways get the big bucks

by lostar2009 on Mar 6, 2011 9:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Young missed part of training camp and the first few games of the season with a knee injury.

Added to that he was a typical rookie OL and needed to work on some technique issues and strengthing.
He did pass Barron on the dept chart and was active for games over Barron by the last few weeks of the season.

by Rena on Mar 6, 2011 8:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Thank you Rena

That’s kinda what I was looking for. I read the Todd Archer assessment on Young some time back and had wondered if anyone had heard any other things that I had missed.

by stargazer33 on Mar 6, 2011 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

You actually

gave a pretty enlightening answer that Young was hurt much of the season, that’s something that kind of escaped me for some reason. Appreciate it.

by stargazer33 on Mar 6, 2011 4:00 PM CST reply actions  

Roy?

stop being ridiculous.

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by Longhorn on Mar 6, 2011 4:26 PM CST reply actions  

Lets see...

I’d say the guys that DEFINITELY need to go are:

Brooking, MB3, Igor, Spears, and Alex Barron

After that there’s a lot of “maybes”

Ball, Colombo, Davis, and Koiser.

These guys depend on what they plan on doing with replacing them. If there’s a new guard and RT that can step in and replace Colombo and Davis, absolutely…let them go. They’re probably too expensive to keep around as depth, but they can still contribute at an average-ish level. Koiser, is probably a back up at this point. A good depth player, a good guy to keep others rested. I agree with what others said about Ball. He’s a 4th CB, and an absolute trainwreck as a starting FS.

by Omar Little on Mar 6, 2011 5:08 PM CST reply actions  

Out of those listed...

1. Keep (move back into old role)
2. Cut
3. Cut
4. Keep
5. Cut
6. Keep
7. Keep
8. Replace him with a young stud or FA
9. I’m not opposed to keeping him
10. CUT HIM NOW

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by TXHC on Mar 6, 2011 7:03 PM CST reply actions  

I like McGee...

but seriously dude…Romo will retire a Cowboy….let go of the hate and come on out of the closet…we are all Romosexuals here to a point. You can and should just admit it.

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by I am Ironman!!! on Mar 6, 2011 9:54 PM CST up reply actions  

My take

Barber, Baron, Columbo – likely done with DAL, likely released
Ball – will go back to being a Reserve CB if he can win the job
Kosier, Davis – unknown due to our lack of OL depth, would prefer to replace Bigg of the 2, unfortunately he’s not the FA
Gronk – let him compete for a spot
Spears is opting out which is too bad. we have enough holes to fill from inadequate players, at least he is adequate. For that matter Sensabaugh is opting out as well-while less adequate, he may not be so terrible if someone who has any instincts plays beside him.
Marty B – getting rid of him is a joke. He’ll be an FA in ’12, all the dissatisfied will get there wish then. And rue the day he left
Roy – probably stuck with him another season

If you look at the cost in Draft picks, cost in Cap room – Roy W is approaching Quincy C territory on JJ’s all time Fubar list. – quite an accomplishment..

With these departures and critical replacements, we’ll probably have to squeeze another year out of TNew, Brooking and Kosier as indicated above. Brooking should split time w Lee, and the big question for Newman is his $8MM due in ’11.

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by tdships on Mar 6, 2011 11:21 PM CST reply actions  

Does it concern anyone else that

3 of our starting 5 OL from last year are on the list ? But we still have folks say we need to draft something but Oline with our first round pick ?

Anyway….

Barber – Gone
Barron – SUPER Gone
Roy – If the cap hit is too much he stays but as the 3rd or 4th WR. (hell, play him at TE if we need it LOL)
Spears – I would actually like to keep him if someone doesnt throw a bunch of money at him…..i remember our run d looking pretty bad with him out last year.
Gronk – Idk, dont have a good feel either way
Columbo- if we draft OL in the first round, he is gone, if not, keep him let him compete with Young for the starters job and if Young beats him out, let him go.
Bigg – tough one here, was he trying to do too much last year or is he done ?
Koiser – makes the OL calls, and I dont want Andre G doing that, so if he is willing to sign a home town discount type deal, keep him

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by BigBad Joe on Mar 7, 2011 8:10 AM CST reply actions  

Oops

left out Ball…..keep at back up safety / CB has value there, but if he is the starting safety next year……sigh

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by BigBad Joe on Mar 7, 2011 8:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Let Ball go

We have 3 solid backup safeties in AOA, Church, and McCray. AOA can play CB as well as Ball. And we happen to have a really good 4th CB that makes game-winning interceptions and returns by the name of McCann.

Are you releasing McCann to keep Ball? Are you releasing AOA to keep Ball? Are you releasing our only good special teams playing in McCray to keep Ball?

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 7, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Would keep Ball over Church

unless a big $$ Diff……I keep him for the same reason as folks like to keep a swing tackle or a backup G/C……can have one person back up two positions on game day active roster…..gives more flexibility

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by BigBad Joe on Mar 7, 2011 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I am hoping for 5 more roster slots in the new CBA if they go to 18 games.

That will help us keep a few more of the young guys you hate to lose to those last few cuts.

by Rena on Mar 7, 2011 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree that if they go to 18, they will open up more spots

just dont think it happens this year unless the CBA is done soon.

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by BigBad Joe on Mar 7, 2011 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Good point, didn't think about bigger rosters

I’d keep Church over Ball, in my opinion. I like what I’ve seen out of Church and I think he can be a solid backup player in this league. Ball, on the other hand, every team in the league has a file on him now and even if we put him in as a backup safety you can bet every OC in the league has some pass plays they would love to use against him.

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 7, 2011 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Roy

Roy Williams can benefit to the team for as long as he’s under contract. (oh wait…..)

Trading Bennett would be a neat idea, since there are teams who need a good rate tight end.

by Zeno on Mar 7, 2011 8:24 AM CST reply actions  

Consistency...

Romo vs. Aikman?
78-50 by age 30
7-9
11-5
13-3
12-4
12-4
12-4
10-6

Whose numbers were those?
48-32 by age 30
9-7
13-3
9-7
11-5
1-4

Whose numbers were those?

I think you get the point… the coaches changed a lot more during Aikman’s tenure and they still continued to win.

When there’s inconsistency you look at your leaders. We fired Wade, why aren’t we cutting Romo?

Also, the situation under Aikman was different, Wade Wilson and Jason Garrett were the best backups he had. In the case of Romo we have McGee and leadership with Kitna to back him up.

Yes, Aikman has the 3 SB’s and a stellar playoff record, but you need consistency at the QB position to get there in the 1st place. We definitely would have been there in 2008 & 2010 with a QB who can win consistently.

Blame it on the injuries I guess but the QB has to go…

by scraig on Mar 7, 2011 8:42 AM CST reply actions  

you couldn't be more wrong

Smart teams don’t cut franchise qbs in their prime, only stupid ones do.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 7, 2011 8:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Coaches Changed More?

Aikman played under Jimmy, Switzer and Campo

Romo has played under Parcells, Phillips, and Now Garrett

Aikman also had a Top 5 Defense throughout most of his Career….Romo has hada top 5 once maybe twice, in his…

Aikman had the NFL rushing leader, Romo has had Marion and Jones(julius and Felix)

Who had the Better supporting Cast scraig? …..I would have to say Aikman did….that is why he is more “consistent”

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by I am Ironman!!! on Mar 7, 2011 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

That's where it got tough looking at those numbers

because technically, if Aikman/Romo start the game, get injured and leave and the team still loses, wouldn’t it go against their W-L ratio? I guess I am looking at it in kind of a baseball way. My thought process leaves me with him going 0-12 in his rookie year, and Tony 1-5 this year, accordingly.

by JLMax09 on Mar 7, 2011 5:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Not going to discount anything Aikman did, 3 Super Bowls speak volumes, but Romo holds his own in terms of regular season wins as you are debating. If you look at the game logs of games that Aikman or Tony have started(Tony’s NYG game where he took over for Bledsoe doesn’ count). I’ve also counted any game either QB started and left early as a win/loss(example, Aikman’s rookie year, Romo NYG this year)

Through the first 5 years as a starter, Aikman missed 12 games, Romo 13. I don’t really see how there was that much difference in consistency at the QB position.

Aikman
1989 0-12 (missed 4 games)
1990 7-7 (missed 2 games)
1991 7-5 (missed 4 games)
1992 13-3
1993 12-2 (missed 2 games)
1994 10-4
1995 12-4
1996 10-5 Turned 30 during 1996 season
62-42 (59.62%)

Romo
2006 6-4 (misse 0 games as starter)
2007 13-3
2008 8-5 (missed 3 games)
2009 11-5
2010 1-5 Was 30 before last season even took place (missed 10 games)
39-22 (63.93%)

Let’s get a capable oline unit and shore up a couple positions on the defense before we write off Romo for absolutely no compensation

by JLMax09 on Mar 7, 2011 5:31 PM CST up reply actions  

exactly the point... leaders win championships

there have been a few really bad QBs win in the playoffs even championships… they just find a way to win. The Romo era has been fun but we didn’t win anything.

Also, Troy made a good point – when he was injured he was at practice, in front of the media, visible because he was the Cowboys QB… he was leading off the field and on. All that stuff makes a difference, we wouldn’t question Tony if he convinced us otherwise. Cowboy QBs just know how to act…

by scraig on Mar 7, 2011 8:36 PM CST up reply actions  

...

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by TXHC on Mar 8, 2011 12:29 AM CST up reply actions  

I like to think teams win championships, and I've deferred that point against Romo not having rings, at this point

You brought up winning Regular Season games before 30, and Romo has has done that. You said Romo is not consistently in the lineup when he’s actually missed just as much, even though he is actually 31. Let’s give the guy a Secondary on the defensive side of the ball, and a RT who can play better than a turnstile. If he can’t move us closer to the goal after another season, then let’s start to groom a LEGITIMATE replacement. But why throw a rook into the fire this year behind that terrible ass oline? Just going to turn him into David Carr. Get a lineman or 2—or 3 lol— this year, and have a strong line built for a few years
 

The Romo era has been fun but we didn’t win anything.

It has been fun, every game is damn near a shoot out as we have to score at least 25 to have a chance.

Also, Troy made a good point – when he was injured he was at practice, in front of the media, visible because he was the Cowboys QB

I won’t lie, would of liked to hear him say something about JG getting hired, etc, etc because I think he is a decent soundbyte, like Peyton. I couldn’t find an article that even said he wasn’t at practice, just those that said he was throwing during. Every game he was on the sideline wearing a headset. I’m glad he didn’t pull a move like Cutler and just pout up and down the sidelines and not do anything. Don’t really know how much more ‘leadership’ an injured player can show than that.

by JLMax09 on Mar 8, 2011 1:52 AM CST up reply actions  

*facepalm*

I didn’t even have to scroll all the way down and I immediately knew who posted this.

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by TXHC on Mar 8, 2011 12:24 AM CST up reply actions  

sorry Dave, but Davis and Colombo do have to go

These guys are only going to get worse, not better. Just cut ties this off season and go with some younger guys, no way they could play much worse.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 7, 2011 8:45 AM CST reply actions  

thats my thinking too

No way the other guys could be worse. It forces you out of old habits

by thebigham on Mar 7, 2011 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

"There is no way Ball can be worse than what we have now"......

LOL…….we got younger at safety too last year, did not work out the way most of us thought it would

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by BigBad Joe on Mar 7, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

no way

I was not in the Ball camp. I liked Hamlin for his skills to “QB” the secondary.

by thebigham on Mar 7, 2011 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Hamlin was horrible too

If your deciding between Hamlin and Ball you’re a 6-10 team. Plain and simple.

The GM needs to do a hell of a lot better job than that if those are the only two players in the discussion.

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 7, 2011 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Who stays and who goes?

1. Alex Barron – waste of time OT
2. MBIII – it is just time
3. Marcus Spears – think he has value but look for him in Houston
4. Marc Colombo – might keep him as a backup but thinking he is gone
5. T. Newman – only if we do something in FA, otherwise keep him
6. M. Bennett – right now he is the 3rd TE and the draft has better candidates
7. Sam Hurd – like the guy but it will be a $ thing
8. Alan Ball – maybe keep if the move back to CB as a backup
9. Kyle Kosier – age, injury, time to sign one in FA or draft one at LG
10. Jon Kitna – McGee can take the spot at #2 and my worst fear is that Mallet falls to #40 and believe me Jerry will take him.

by sandyf on Mar 7, 2011 9:36 AM CST reply actions  

I only agree with part of the lit

To me its not just about getting rid of players because we are unhappy with them. its about getting a replacement that’s not worse. Remember Ken Hamlin. Everyone wanted him gone. then they got ball and we thought, sheit I wish we had hamling back. so lets think of how and who will replace those we wish gone.

1- Allan Ball – Agreed that he was miscast as a FS. he is better suited as a back up CB, a valuable position. So we shouldn’t just get rid of him. move him to where he is better.

2- Barber- I don’t get why we handed him a 45 mill contract and then drafted Jones. offer him a massive pay cut, if he doesn’t take it, then see ya (which will be the case). some one will sign him for a couple of mill a year to fill a 2nd string or 3rd down back.

3- Barron – Couldn’t agree more. just like barbie. he needs to go.

4- Bennett – I totally disagree. I think its our expectations that need to be more realistic. everyone expected him to come in and be almost as good as witten and have a bunch of catches and yards. but in reality he is the 5th recieving option on the team after Austin, Witten, Dez, Williams (in fact 6th, given that jones and barber would be ahead of him too). so how many catches and yards do you expect from the 5th or 6th reciever on the team? about 25-30 and about 200-300 yards. and he has been asked to block way more than necessary (out of necessatiy because of OL issues). I think he is a keepr and should get a 3rd round tender next year.

5- Columbo – Yes time to go. could sam young be much worse?

6- Lenord Davis – I am not so sure. He is certainly not the dominant player we expected. he has had problems picking up the blitz. but who are you going to replace him with? a draft pick? so lets make sure we have a replacement before we throw him to the curb.

7- Gardowski – he showed some runnign ability. some catching ability. but his blocking leaves a lot to be desired. I am all for an upgrade, but I would like to find his replacement first.

8- Kosier- so get rid of columbo, davis and kosier. that’s 3/5th of the line. its hard to replace all of them in one off season. I think Kosier is too injury prone, so either a back up role for him. if hot then keep davis. its not just about getting rid of players. its about getting a replacement that’s better than what you have.

9- spears – I wouldn’t mind keeping him for veteran minimum. he was very good against hte run. not much pass rush. so he is a 2 down player at most. but if he takes the vet min or a little above it, it would be find. but somehow I doubt if he will.

Roy Williams – I am on the fence with him. as a 3rd WR which is what he will be he gets paid too much. but that’s not his fault. that’s the money side done by Jerry and if I were RW, I would take the money too. however, as a 3rd WR is he not worth it? I don’t like what I have seen of Hurd or Ogltree. I am not ready to trust either to an important position.
the most frustrating thing about RW is his expressions when he screws up, like I can’t belive this happened.

by CowboysFanatic on Mar 7, 2011 10:43 AM CST reply actions  

Although I agree Marty-B has not been the second coming of DuPre or Cosby, I think we need to keep him.

I just hope he can catch a bunch of balls in preseason, so he show he’s a force in the passing game.

MBIII? WTF happened. Was it just his hard hitting style of play that wore him down. Isn’t he getting to the hole quick enough. Did he seem to wear out much faster than others, or what? He was money a few years back. To bad, so sad.

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by CowboyMan on Mar 7, 2011 6:59 PM CST reply actions  

We all said it every game in 2006 and 2007

“If he keeps playing like this he’s going to have a short career!”

It was all over the media. All the pundits said it, everyone knew it.

Well, now here we are in 2010 and – yep, his career is shortened by his insane running style. His body is shot, he goes down on first contact.

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 7, 2011 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 7, 2011 7:09 PM CST up reply actions  

10 that need to go??

There really is not 10 players that need to go…more like several new spots requiring better starters.

Free Saftey – Alan Ball can roll back over to Corner and play Special Teams.

Strong Saftey – Sensabaugh is a good backup but not a starter.

MLB – Brooking is old…Sean Lee is the future and present.

LE – Spears is out and a new End is needed.

RT – Columbo needs to be replaced but I am not sure who is out there that is considered better?

LG – Kosier…see Columbo above.

K – Buehler is not our kicker…he is our kick off specialist…when he focuses just on that, he is a monster, but his accuracy is less than average at 70%. You need a kicker who is good for 85% of his kicks.

Backup RB – Barber needs to go and Choice should get promoted…Choice has more burst and is more effective on those 2yd runs.

I find 8 spots but 2 of them (RT and LG) are questionable depending on the draft and free agency.

If we can replace all of those spots this offseason with better people, Dallas will be back to 11 wins easily.

by JeffHart24 on Mar 8, 2011 9:05 AM CST reply actions  

BTW....

Weddle from the Bolts, Huff from the Raiders and Mikel from the Eagles are all avail once the CBA gets worked out…

My guess is Dallas makes a hearty run at one of them…Mikel graded as the best Saftey in football last year and Weddle was #3. Huff is familiar with Ryan, so it would not be a stretch to see him make a suggestion to go after him.

There are several good Tackles and Guards avail too…

Really, if Dallas could get a Guard in FA, plus one of those safties and then use their draft to solidify other spots, I think they would be in good shape.

Picking 9th, they should get one of the Top 2 corners in the draft.

by JeffHart24 on Mar 8, 2011 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

The Obvious answers ...

The only ones that need to go are the ones that can be replaced. We didnt have a draft yet & we didn’t touch FA’s yet. But if you look @ the current roster, you can add some clarity:
First the obvious: kick off all players filling in for IR folks; ie:
(1) Martin Rucker – Phillips will be back, no need to hate on MB
(2) Greisen – yes a 3rd QB on the roster, due to Romo IR
(3) Manuel Johnson – gone when Dez returns
(4) Sendejo is gone when Akwasi returns
(5) Teddy Williams – gone when Olgetree returns
etc …

Now the less obvious (they suck, we have depth or contract is prohibitive)
(6) Alex Barron – anyone watching week one this is obvious. Did they need to see what they had in him or does Brewster suck even worse? If so add Brewster too. Then add OT to draft /FA need list
(7) Gronkowski – cant lead block or pass protect; spend a 5th rd to get best FB or get a FA
(8) Barber – we have depth; there are many FA’s out there or grab one in mid rounds (4-6)

Finally, the debatab;e ones…
(9) Between Bowen, Hatcher & Spears,dump Hatcher. Spears isnt a fan favorite, but he stuffs the run & is a starter, Bowen is same year as Hatcher & played better. I’d agrue dropping Igor over Hatcher, but Igor is under contract & starts. Just nommore dancing PLEASE !
(10) Sensabaugh – pick up a new Safety FA & draft one as well (move Ball back to 4th corner – he can beat out last years opening day 4th corner, I think :)

Pokes cant dump Roy W. it’ll create too much dead $ (more than if we kept him). Else, I cant find too much on 2011 cap space.
Pokes need a good kicker
Pokes NEED to be TOUGHER IN TRENCHES on both sides of the ball

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